Mar 18, 2021 Street Maintenance Advisory and Appeals Board

[CALL TO ORDER]

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IT'S 5:00 P.M. MARCH 18TH, 2021.

>> WE CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER OF THE STREET MAINTENANCE ADVISORY BOARDND APPEALS COURT.

WILL YOU DO A ROLL CALL.

>> BEFORE WE GET INTO THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING. WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE TWO OF OUR NEW MEMBERS. MR. JAMES MCCOY HERE ON THE RIGHT THANKS JAMES FOR VOLUNTEERING TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD AND COMMISSIONER NI MOSES.

THANKS FOR YOUR SERVING ON THE BOARD.

I KNOW IT MAY BE LIKE DRINKING THROUGH THE FIRE HOSE FOR A WHILE. YOU TAKE THE TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE DON'T WORRY ABOUT.

THERE'S NOT A SILLY QUESTION. MR. MCCAFFREY AND HIS STAFF ARE GOOD ABOUT EXPLAINING THINGS RELATED TO THE CITY'S STRICT MAINTENANCE. I THINK YOU WILL FIND THEY ARE EXTREMELY GOOD TO WORK WITH. HOPEFULLY, THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING

[1. Minutes: Review a Report, Hold a Discussion and Take Action on Approving the Minutes of the Meeting Held on October 13, 2020.]

OF OCTOBER THE 13TH, 2020. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION

TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTE FROM OCTOBER 20TH.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE OCTOBER 13TH, MEETING.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR ANY CORRECTIONS THAT MIGHT BE MADE? ANYBODY OFFER ANY COMMENTS OR

CONCERN FOR THE MINUTES? >> RUTH, WOULD YOU DO A VOTE, ROLL CALL.

>> OKAY. THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 13TH MEETING ARE APPROVED. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE

[2. 2021 Street Maintenance Program. Receive a Report and Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing and Take Action the use of the Fund Balance for the 2021 Street Maintenance Program. (G.McCaffery)]

WE WILL RECEIVE A REPORT AND HOLD A DISCUSSION AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION ON THE USE OF THE FUND TO BALANCE FOR THE 2021 STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

MR. MCCAFFREY? >> GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS. WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU -- LET ME GET TO OUR PIECE HERE.

THE REASON THIS IS BEFORE YOU IS WE HAVE COMPLETED THE DESIGN AND WE'VE ALSO AWARDED THE BID ON ALL OF THE '21 PROJECTS FOR THIS COMING YEAR. I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT ON THE BIDS CAME IN GOOD. I THINK -- A LOT HAD TO DO WITH OUR DESIGN AS FAR AS ON THE PROJECT.

THEY WERE DESIGNED IN HOUSE. AND THEN LIKEWISE, I THINK GETTING THE PROJECT OUT EARLIER HAD A LOT TO DO WITH US GETTING GOOD PRICING. WITH THAT WE HAVE 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS PLUS OR MINUS AVAILABLE TO USE ON IN 2021.

I KNOW IN YOUR PACKET YOU RECEIVED THREE GROUPS OF MATERIALS. THIS MATERIAL THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IS VERY SIMILAR -- ACTUALLY IDENTICAL WITH THE ABSENCE OF THE ITEMS WE PULLED OUT FOR THE 2022 PROJECT YOU APPROVED IN OCTOBER.

THE MATERIAL THAT YOU LOOKED AT AS FAR AS WITHIN YOUR PACKET. YOU'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE.

THE MATERIALS GROUPED INTO THREE MAJOR AREAS.

IT'S GROUPED INTO WE CALL IT MAJOR ROAD PROJECTS.

THESE ARE THE LISTING OF PROJECTS IN THE PAST WE'VE PRESENTED TO YOU THAT WE WOULD USE PREDOMINANTLY DCOA FUNDING. IN THIS CASE IF YOU FIND A PROJECT HERE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER THAT IS IN THAT 1.5 OR LESS. WE SURELY CAN USE THE MONIES FOR THOSE PROJECTS. WE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE PACKET A LIST OF INTERSECTIONS. YOU'VE SEEN THIS LIST BEFORE.

YOU'VE ALSO SEEN THE MAP. AND THEN LIKEWISE WE'VE GIVEN YOU A WORK ZONE AREA, AGAINS TO REITERATE FOR THE PUBLIC.

WHY DON'T WE DO ONE STREET BEFORE ANOTHER.

WE USE ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO MANAGE THE CITY SYSTEM.

THAT SYSTEM HAS PLUS OR MINUS OVER 9,000 SEGMENTS.

RESIDENTIAL BLOCK IS SEGMENT. WE RATE ON 1 TO 100.

TRY TO KEEP THAT DATA UPDATED. WE USE AS FAR AS PAYMENT

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WE LOOK AT REDOING THAT INFORMATION IN THE NEXT YEAR.

WE HOPE OUR DATA WILL BE BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY. WE HAVE STAFF MEMBERS THAT ROUTINELY UPDATE THE INFORMATION.

WHAT WE DO IS WE SEE THAT WE HAVE A PARTICULAR DOLLAR VALUE AVAILABLE TO PUT ON TO STREET IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT WE DO IS WE INSERT THAT DOLLAR NUMBER ALONG WITH A TREATMENT METHOD.

IN THIS CASE WE LOOK -- WE CALL IT MAINTEANCE TYPE TREATMENT METHODS AND IN THIS CASE FOR THE RESIDENTIALS, THE HIGHEST OR MOST AGGRESSIVE TREATMENT IS GENERALLY A MILL IN OVERLAY. WE PUT BACK TWO INCHES ON THE ROADWAY BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE ALSO THE CROWN ON THE ROADWAY TO HELP FACILITY DRAINAGE.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS PRACTICE ON -- WITH YOU FOLKS FOR NOT QUITE THREE YEARS. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. AGAIN, AS WE MANAGE THE SYSTEM, WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK ALTERNATE NO REDOING THE FIRST ROW FIRST. WE GENERALLY WON'T GET AS GOOD OF INCREASE ON THE PCI'S OF ALL OF THE STREET SEGMENTS WHERE IF WE TURN AROUND AND DO A LESS AGGRESSIVE TYPE TREATMENT ON A NUMBER OF ROADS, THEN WE CAN MOVE AS FAR AS A NUMBER OF ROADS HIGHER IN THAT -- YOU CALL PCI RATING AND THEREFORE WE CAN MOVE THAT OVERALL AVERAGE, HOPEFULLY UPWARDS. OKAY.

THAT'S SORT OF HOW WE GET TO THE WORK ZONES.

I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE SLIDES HERE A LITTLE BIT.

THIS IS THE MAJOR PROJECTS SO YOU HAVE THIS MAP ON LARGER SCALE ON YOUR DESK. AS FAR AS ON THE SCREEN.

WHAT WE DONE WE PULLED OUT EAST NORTH 10TH.

THAT'S THE PRODUCT YOU SELECTED IN OCTOBER.

THAT PROJECT IS NO LONGER AS FAR AS IF YOU CALL TO CALL IT ELIGIBLE PROJECT WITHIN THIS PROGRAM.

MOST OF THE PROJECTS ARE COLLECTOR STREETS.

THEY INVOLVE OVERLAY WITH MINOR OR MAJOR BASE REPAIR.

IF THERE'S AN INTERSECTION WE GENERALLY LOOK AT CONSTRUCTING RECONSTRUCTING THAT INTERSECTION ON CONCRETE.

THIS LISTING AS FAR AS THE STREET.

PROJECT NUMBER 2 UP THERE, YOU HAVE SELECTED THAT PROJECT.

WE'RE WAITING ON DCOA TO GIVE CURRENTS ON THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT PROCEEDING WITH DESIGN IN THAT PROJECT. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE TO THIS BOARD ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS NOT ONLY WIDENING THAT PROJECT IN 2022 WITH ADDITIONAL MONEY BUT WE'LL BE RESURFACING THAT PROJECT WHICH THIS IS ACTUALLY YOU APPROVED THE RESURFACING PORTION.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A RATHER EX-TE EX-TENSETIVE -- EXTENSIVE PROJECT IN 2022.

THE INTERSECTIONS THERE'S A LIST OF 19.

THE COST IS $500,000 IF WE HAVE TO GET IN THERE AND DO REHAB OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS.

IF THERE IS NOT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AS FAR AS THERE WE WILL LOOK WHETHER IT NEED AWARDS. IF NOT WE WILL PROCEED.

OTHERWISE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IN 2021 THAT ARE ALONG PINE STREET.

IF YOU RECALL YOU APPROVED THOSE IN 2021.

AND BOTH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS ALL WE LOOK AT DOING IS CHANGING THE ASPHALT INTERSECTIONS INTO CONCRETE INTERSECTION. THIS IS A LISTING OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS, AS FAR AS THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY. AS FAR AS THE WORK ZONES, THIS IS MATERIAL YOU SAW FROM 2022. WITH THE EXCEPTION, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT AT THE VERY BOTTOM THE LOWER AT LEAST FOR THE AUDIENCE THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER.

THAT S-25 WE HAVE -- IF YOU WILL RECALL, WE WILL LOOK AT DOING THIN MEMBRANE OVER THE TOP OF THOSE ROADWAYS.

ALL THOSE ROADWAYS ARE RELATIVE I WILL NEW WITHIN 7 TO FIVE YEAR. WE LOOK TO PUT THE TREATMENT ON THERE. THAT WILL BE DONE IN 2021.

THE MATERIAL THAT YOU SEE UP THERE IS BASICALLY THE OPTIMAL ZONES. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 35 WORK ZONE. WE GAVE YOU A COPY OF THE WORK ZONE MAP IN YOUR PACKET. IT WAS THAT SHEET THAT WAS

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THAT'S MORE JUST BEGIN FOR REFERENCE FOR ALL OF YOU.

WE TRY TO BALANCE OUT A NUMBER OF PROJECTS IN THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN AND THEN A NUMBER OF PROJECTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN. WE USE HEARST STREET AS THE DIVIDING LINE. WE WE WANT TO MAKE THEM CONSTRUCTIBLE AS WELL AS SELECTABLE IN SIZE WE'VE BROKEN THEM DOWN INTO SUBWORK ZONES.

THE REASON FOR THAT, IF WE WERE TO KEEP THEM CLUSTERED, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF MAP THERE.

IF YOU ADDED ALL THREE OF THOSE AREAS WE WOULD LOOK LIKE 3 TO 3 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY WHEN YOU LOOK THAT WE ONLY GENERALLY GET 6 AND A HALF MILLION A YEAR FOR THE FEES AND 2 MILLION AS FAR CDCOA. THIS IS LIST OF PROJECT THAT WERE REMAINING FROM THE ONES THAT WERE NOT COLLECTED IN 202022. WE ONLY HAVE 1.5 MILLION TO SPEND. WE COULD DO A COMBINATION AS FAR AS OF THIS. WE COULD DO JUST ONE IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES. I KNOW IT'S A LOT.

IT'S ALMOST 9 MILLION DOLLARS. THE NEED IS GREAT.

AND THIS IS THE OPTIMAL ZONES THAT WE'RE SELECTED AS FAR AS USING THE ITERATION. THIS DATA BEGIN BACK TO YOU.

WHEN WE LOOK AT EACH OF THESE, I WILL COVER QUICKLY.

YOU SEEN THESE BEFORE. N-6 THAT PIECE IS JUST LOCATED AS FAR AS NORTH, EAST-NORTH 10TH.

SOUTH OF I-20. AND AS YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE. WE GIVE YOU WHAT THE COST OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE. ALL THE ROADS WOULD BE COVERED THERE IN THE RED. N-15 IS SIMILAR AS FASTER AS IN MAKEUP AS FAR AS YOU SEE ALL THE ROADS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE TEAL. I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT WE ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AND TO AND FROM FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE ROADS. YOU HAD EXCEL SPEED SHEET FOR ALL OF THE ZONES. THIS WHERE WE GET INTO WHERE WE SEPARATED SOME OF THESE ZONE TO BREAK THEM OUT.

WE NECESSARY JUST DIDN'T GRAB THE ENTIRE ZONE.

THIS CASE HERE IS N-16. AND YOU CAN SEE WE BROKEN INTO SUBAREAS. THAT AREA THAT'S IN THE TEAL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE OR THE ONE IN RED.

AND THE ONE IN YELLOW. I SHOULD POINT OUT LAST LIKE TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRY TO DO STAFF WISE WHEN WE PRESENT THE PROJECTS TO YOU THERE MAY BE A ROAD SEGMENT THAT YOU MAY HAVE SAW OUT THERE.

WHEN I MEAN A SEGMENT. I MEAN A SELIG BLOCK.

OUR RANGE GENERALLY FOR MLY LL AND OVERLAYS.

WE LOOK AT ROADS IN THE RANGE BETWEEN 60 TO 75 GENERALLY NO MORE THOSE ARE WHAT IS GENERATED FOR THE MILL AND OVERLAY AND MINOR BASE REPAIR. LAST ONE IS S-11.

LIKEWISE YOU CAN SEE THIS ONE IS BETWEEN SOUTH 14TH AND SOUTH 7TH. TWO OF THOSE ARE REMAINING.

YOU WILL PICK THAT OFF AS FAR AS THE EAST IN TEAL THIS PAST FALL. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU FOR THIS EVENING GIVE SOME DENSE OF DIRECTION WHERE WE COULD SPEND THE 1.5 MILLION. WE WOULD LIKE A DECISION THIS EVENING SO WE CAN PUT OUR IN-HOUSE STAFF TOGETHER.

WE FEEL WE TURN PLANS AROUND FAIRLY QUICKLY ON ANY NUMBER OF THE PROJECT AND GET THEM OUT FORBID AND UNDER CONTRACT BEFORE WE CALL FOR THE EARLY START OF THE SUMMER.

WITH THAT IT WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT

HAVE. >> JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF, ESPECIALLY FOR MR. MCKA AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF. FOR GETTING THE PROJECTS OUT AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE LOWER ASPHALT PRICES THAT HELPED US HAVE THIS MILLION AND A HALF LEFT OVER THAT WE CAN APPLY TO ADDITIONAL ANYTHING.

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THE MAJOR PROJECTS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE FROM DCOA MONEY AND THEY ARE USUALRY LARGE THEN THE AMERICAS ARE THE INTERSECTIONS THAT MIGHT BE HALF A MILLION THAT ACHE AN INTERSECTION AND DO SOME OF THOSE, AND THEN THE LAST ARE THE REST DENY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD DECIDES IS RESIDENTIAL STREET ARE NOT FOR DCOA MONEY.

WE CAN'T USE THE DCOA MONEY FOR RESIDENTIAL STREET; ISN'T

THAT RIGHT? >> RIGHT.

THAT'S CORRECT. THAT MAJOR LIST THAT YOU SEE THE WAY WE ARRIVED AT THAT WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF PROJECT ON THE ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR ROADS THAT HAD A LARGE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL OR POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THOSE MAJOR ROADWAYS VERSUS OTHER ONES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. IS THAT THOSE ARE A GOOD MAJORITY OF COMMERCIAL WOPPING.

THEY RECEIVED FROM THE DCO >> UP WARMED SAY ESPECIALLY TO NEW BOARD MEMBERS IS THAT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A THOUGHT OF THE BOARD TO USE THE MAINTENANCE FEE.

THAT'S BEING COLLECTED FROM ALL OF THE FEE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO BE.

WE'VE TRIED TO DO THAT. I KNOW IN THE LAST WE TRIED TO FOCUS IN ON THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THE OLDER BOARD MEMBER, I KNOW THAT'S -- THAT WAS A THOUGHT TO TRY USE IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

P OUR BOARD IS JUST A RECOMMENDING BOARD.

WE DON'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

WE JUST RECOMMEND IT TO THE CITY.

WE COULD RECOMMEND ONE MAJOR PROJECT.

IT WOULD TAKE ALL THE MONEY. OR AN INTERSECTION OR TWO FOLK IT AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO DO EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO. IT'S EASY TO SEE.

BUT PICKING SOME OF THESE MOST RECENTLY I FELT THAT BOARD WANTED TO FOCUS ON RESIDENTIAL AREA.

YOU CAN DO THAT. IF THERE'S ON JEBBING IF YOU

LAID A FOCUS ON RESIDENTIAL. >> FROM THE I DO HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT ARE THE DETERMINING FACTOR FOR BRINGING IN STOPLIGHTS AND STOP SIGNS INTO

A SPECIFIC AREA? >> MR. SPE SPEAKER -- MR. MCCAFFREY, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT?

>> WHEN WE LOOK AT UPGRADING PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS IN A PROJECT, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.

WE'VE NOT ISOLATED OUT SEPARATELY IN THE ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE USE, USE RATES ARE PAYMENTS SEGMENT. BASICALLY FROM THE CENTER OF INTERSECTION TO CENTER OF INTERSECTION.

RESIDENTIAL BLOCK OR COMMERCIAL BLOCK.

IT DOESN'T INCORPORATE INTERSECTIONS.

IT DOES NOT INCORP OPERATE PHOTOGRAPH SFLAL AGRICULTURES OR WE HAVE WE INCORPED THAT. WHEN THEY'VE BEEN COLLECTED.

WE WILL DO THAT ONLY IF INDEED THEY ARE PART OF A PROJECT.

WE'VE ISOLATED OUT THE INTERSECTIONS TO YOU FOLKS.

WE FELT IF WE CONTINUE TO DO BLACK SEGMENTS, NONE OF -- I WOULD SAY CRITICAL INTERSECTIONS WOULD BE ADDRESSED. THEY WOULD BASICALLY FALL BY THE WAYSIDE AS WE CONTINUE AS FAR AS IMPROVEMENTS ON THE STREET NETWORK. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE YOU STAFF IT'S AN OVERALL MAP OF ALL THE PROJECT THAT YOU'VE APPROVED SINCE THE START OF THE BOARD.

NOW YOU ARE STARTING THE SEE, YOUR WORK ON NOW YOU START TO SEE WHERE THE PROJECTS HAVE LANDED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA AS YOU GIETH GET YOURSELF. DIDN'T THEY DO A PROJECT ON

TRAFFIC SIGNALLING RECENTLY? >> WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PROJECT WHERE WE HAD SOME UPGRADES.

YOU CAUGHT MY OFF GUARD. >> IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PART

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THE CITY SPENT ABOUT 2 POINLT 3 MILLION ON TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION UPGRADES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

GOOD MAJORITY OF IT WAS IN THE DOWNTOWN.

I DO KNOW THAT ONE PROJECT THAT STICKS OUT TO ME RECENTLY IS SALES BOULEVARD. AND THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH 17 AND SALES, UPGRADED. AND REDONE.

THAT'S AN EXAMPLE HOW WE TRY TO INCORPORATE TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION AS FAR AS WITHIN A PROJECT.

ANOTHER ONE THAT, THAT WE'VE DONE IS RIDGEMONTH.

OPENING OF THE MALL. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IS WORKING WITH THE PRIVATEER WE JUST JUST ABLE TO PUT IN TO HELP FACILITY ON TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF NOT ONLY THEIR INTERSECTION BUT ALSO OUR INTERSECTION AND BY RELINES WE THINK WE'VE PROVIDED A MUCH GOOD INTERSECTIONS. WE HAD TWO INTERSECTION JUDGES. ROLLING AGAIN MY WE VERY WELL I HOW WE PUT IN UPGRADED SIGNALIZATION AND PEDESTRIAN

IMPROVEMENTS. >> WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR

THAT. >> YOU MENTIONED PROJECTS THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. IT'S THIS MAP YOU ARE TALKING

ABOUT? >> THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED. YOU LEVEL WILL SEE THE THOSE ARE IN M STOORT A COUPLE OF THE 2021 AS FAR AS THOSE PROJECTED. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

>> ONE AND A HALF MILLION. HOW OFTEN DOES THAT OCCUR? AND THE REASON FOR THAT WAS CHEAPER ASPHALT?

>> THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SEEING. THE WAY WE WORK THROUGH OUR COST ESTIMATE. WE NEED TO PUT IN GOOD DATA INTO THE LISTING OF PROJECTS. WE SAY LAST YEAR COST OF ASPHALT PER TON ANYWHERE UP TO 150 A TON.

WE HAVE PROJECT WHEN WE RECEIVE THEED BYES IN JANUARY WERE WE GETTING 85. THAT'S SUBSTANTIALLY LOW.

WE EVEN ADJUST IT IT IF WE PUT IN TO FROM WE ADDRESSED IT DOWN TO 90 A TON AND IT CAME IN 45 AS QUESTION STALK WITH OTHERS IN REGION, THEY ARE NOT GETTING -- THEY ARE NOT INDICATING THEY ARE GETTING THE PRICING.

HOW MANY COMPANIES BID ON THE PROJECTS?

>> WE WILL GET ANYWHERE FROM 3 TO 5.

MOST OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE BIDDING ON OUR WORK ARE LOCAL. WE'VE HAD UPWARDS OF SIX.

THEN WE'VE GOT I LIKE TO THINK WE'VE GOT RATHER ACROSS THAT ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE. THEY BIDS COME IN TIGHT FROM

ONE ANOTHER. >> THE POINT IS KEEP THE

CONTRACTOR LOCAL. >> THAT'S THE PREFERENCE I WOULD SAY OF THE CITY. JUST TO TRY TO LOOK TOWARD LOCAL CONTRACTORS, BUT WE'VE HAD CONTRACTORS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE REGION. THAT'S UNIQUE TYPE OF TREATMENT. THERE'S NOT A LOT THAT DO THAT WORK. TWO IN TEXAS.

TWO IN OKLAHOMA. >> ONE OTHER THING I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING AND I HATE TO KEEP SAYING FOR NEW BOARD MEMBERS. I WANT MAY SURE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DIVIDING THE CITY CLILLY IN NORTH THE CITY USES THE RAILROAD TRACK AS DIVIDING LINE.

TECHNICALLY THAT'S NOT 50% OF THE CITY NORTH AND SOUTH OR THE STREETS OR THE AVAILABLE PROJECT THE IN THE RESIDENTIAL. THE WORK JUST OVER A THIRD IS NORTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACK AS FAR AS DOLLAR AMOUNTS OF THE WORK ZONE. ABOUT TWO-THIRDS THE SOUTH OF

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SOME PLACE IN THERE. I KNOW IT'S NOT THE REAL RAID TRACK. I

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO AS WITHINED DO HAVE AND WROUL -- WE CAN PRESENT A GOOD LITSZ OF PROJECTS TO YOU EACH FALL. IS WE HAVE TO QUESTION LOOK AT THE BEST CANDIDATES AS FAR AS WITHIN THE WORK ZONES.

AND BELIEF IT OR NOT WHAT WE FIND IS IT'S -- IT'S A REAL CHALLENGE TO FIND A NUMBER OF GROUPINGS OF STREETS THAT ARE ON THE NORTH END OF THE CITY. AND THAT'S BECAUSE MANY OF THOSE STREETS ARE NOT IDEAL CANDIDATES FOR MILLING AND OVERLAYING THAT'S A MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE TREATMENT.

IT'S MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. YOU DON'T GET AS MANY LANE MILES COMPLETED. WHAT WE FIND OURSELVES DOING.

RUNNING A LARGER NUMBER OF CANDIDATE THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

WE MAY HAVE TO PULL OFF SOME OF THOSE ON THE SOUTH END TO BALANCE OUT TO HAVE ENOUGH ON THE NORTH END AND ENOUGH ON THE SOUTH WIND. WE TRY TO GIVE YOU ABOUT TEN TO 15 PROJECTS THAT YOU COULD SELECT FROM IN THE WORK ZONES.

BUT KNOW THAT THERE'S FROMABLY A FAR GENERALLY THOSE RUNS ARE NEWER THEY DON'T HAVE OFF MUST LIGHT COME IN THE ROADWAY.

WE CAN D AN OVERLAY. WHEN -- WHEN YOU DO A LARGE NUMBER OF ROAD THOSE ARE RELATIVELY NEWER.

WE CAN TAKE THAT TREATMENT. WE FEEL WE CAN EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE ROADS AND BEST USE THE MONIES AS FAR AS FOR THAT TYPE OF TREATMENT AND THEN MAYBE NO OVERLAY ON THE NORTH END OF

TOWN. >> WE TRY TO BALANCE THAT OUT.

>> DID YOU TRY TO DETERMINE WHERE IS THE DIVIDING LIFE

BETWEEN 50/50 UP NORTH? >> WE'RE AROUND SOUTH 14TH.

IT'S THAT FAR SOUTH. THAT'S BECAUSE SO MUCH GROWTH IS OCCURRING IN SOUTHERN END OF THE COMMUNITY.

>> I BOUGHT THAT UP TO THE CITY AS FAR AS HOW WE DO NOT ONLY OUR -- DIVIDE OUR STREETS BUT OUR ELECTIONS AS WELL FOR SAY CITY COUNCIL. I KNOW THAT DOESN'T PERTAIN TO THIS. BUT IT KIND OF DOES.

YOU WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BALANCE IT OUT.

>> WE CAN TRULY SAY WE'RE TRYING TO COVER IT.

>> THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT. ESPECIALLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS WHEN THEY LOOK LIKE S-9 OR S-11.

TECHNICALLY THOSE COULD BE CONSIDERED NORTH OF THE CENTER OF THE CITY. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT MAKES THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE. I WANT ESPECIALLY THE NEW MEMBERS TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WORK ZONES.

ABOUT A 30 OF IS NORTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACK.

TWO-THIRDS IS SOUTH. WHEN YOU INCLUDE S-9 AND S-11 THAT'S NORTH OF 14TH. THEN IT WOULD CHANGE YOUR IMPRESSION A LITTLE BIT. I KNOW WE TRY TO BALANCE AS MONEY AS WE CAN TO TRY TO BALANCE THOSE.

BUT THAT'S MAYBE THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT FACTOR.

>> I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY.

IT MAY BE CONFUSING AT TIMES. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NORTH SIDE VERSES SOUTH SIDE. NOT REALLY BATTLE.

BUT YOU KNOW TO YOUR POINT THERE'S ONLY A THIRD OF THAT IS NORTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACK AS OPPOSED IN MY SKEW OUR -- YOU KNOW OUR THINKING. YOU KNOW I SEE WHAT YOU ARE

SAYING. >> ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CONCERNING THIS 1.5 MILLION ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE A DECISION IS MADE.

BUT ARE THERE OTHER OBVIOUSLY WE REITERATE THIS AGAIN.

THERE'S MAJOR PROJECTS. THERE'S INTERSETIONS, AND

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OR THE WORK ZONE AS THE CITY CALL THEM.

[INAUDIBLE] PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE IS DONE BY OUR STREET SERVICES DIVISION.

WE HAVE A JOINT PROGRAM THAT'S DONE TWICE A YEAR.

THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK AT CANDIDATES THAT WERE ABLE TO FILL THE CRACKS ON THE ASPHALT ROADWAYS AND MINIMIZE AS FAR AS MOISTURE AS FAR AS GETTING DOWN BELOW THE ROAD BED.

ALSO WITHIN THAT QUITE A BIT OF POTHOLE PATCHING.

ON OLDER ROADWAYS. THEY ALSO DO MINOR PATCHES.

SO THOSE WOULD BE MUCH GREATER THAN SAY A THAN A POT HOLE.

HALF A LANE FROM RESIDENTIAL STREET.

I COULD BE 100 FEET IN LENGTH. WE WOULD ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE COULD DO SMALLER JOBS.

I THINK IF YOU ASKED OUR PEOPLE, THEY WOULD LOVE TO DO LARGER JOBS. BUT I THINK IT'S MANPOWER SKILL SETS AND THE AMOUNT OF STAFF THAT WE HAVE.

WE ALSO DO AS FAR AS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.

WE HELP KEEP DEBRIS OUT OF GUTTER AND CHANTEL WATER SO IT DOESN'T FURTHER DEGRADE THE STREETS.

WE DO AGGRESSIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

AND ALSO AREA FAST AR-GRAFFEL ROADWAY AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE PROGRAM OF THE GRAFFEL ROADS WITHIN THE CITY.

>> THE CITY HAS PUT IN CONCRETE FOR LOW WATER CROSSINGS. WE IMPROVED.

WE CAN DO MINIMAL KRON CRETE WORK.

-- THE CONCRETE WORK WE DID DO.

WE DID A LANE ON SOUTH 27TH. I BELIEVE IT WAS BUFFALO GAP.

WE DID SOME CONCRETE WORK NEAR THE COCA-COLA FACILITY ON THE NORTH END OF THE CITY UP NEAR BUFFALO WILD WINGS.

THERE WAS AN INTERSCTION THERE.

ACTUALLY TWO INTERSECTIONS. WE CAN HANDLE WE LIKE TO SAY STUFF THAT THE MANY OF OUR CONTRACTORS ARE DOING.

IT COMES DOWN TO JUST TIME MANAGEMENT THOUGH.

WE HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF STAFF AND EQUIPMENT AS FAR AS TO BE ABLE TO PUT FORTH INTO ALL THOSE AREAS.

WE ARE DEALING WITH ROUGHLY 650 CENTER LANE MILES.

ABOUT 1400 LANE MILES OF ROADWAY WITHIN OUR NETWORK.

IT'S RATHER MASSIVE WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY BETWEEN 25 AND 30 INDIVIDUALS IN THE FIELD.

DOING THESE TASKS. >> DOES THAT ANSWER?

>> THAT'S FINE. >> ONE THING I MIGHT -- IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS SURPLUS 1.5 MILLION SPENT ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS. THE THING TO LOOK AT IS THE LIST OF THE WORK ZONES THAT THEY HAVE OUTLINED IN TRYING TO ADD UP TO A MILLION AND A HALF.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WHOLE LOT OF CHOICES, REALLY.

IF YOU ADD N-15 AND S-9. I COME 1,515,000.

I THINK IF IT'S NOT EXACTLY 1.5 MILLION BUT IT'S CLOSE.P T.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.

THEN ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE N-6, N15-B.

IN 16B AND S-9-C. THAT WOULD BE 1,440,000.

I'M TRYING TO HIT THE 1.5 MILLION.

THERE'S NOT A CHOICES IF YOU WANT TO STAY RESIDENTIAL.

IF YOU WANT TO PUT INTO RESIDENTIAL WORK ZONES.

I WOULD REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME.

N-6, N-15-B. AND S-9-A WOULD BE ABOUT 1.5 MILLION. OR N KRF 6 PLUS N-15 BE PLUS N-16B PLUS IS-9-C IS 1.44 MILLION.

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OR RESIDENTIAL STREETS? >> I THINK SOME OF THE INTERSECTIONS ARE LOOKING REALLY GOOD FROM WHAT MAJOR IMPROVEMENT WITH THE CONCRETE STRUCTURE AND BUILDING MATERIAL. I THINK THAT'S EXCELLENT.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME.

BUTTERNUT STREET LOOKING FANTASTIC.

REALLY GOOD JOB THERE. I GUESS IT'S JUST A MATTER OF DOLLARS AND WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT THEM.

YOU KNOW I THINK INTERSECTIONS ARE IMPORTANT AS FAR AS SAFETY. ROADS THAT ARE MORE FREQUENTLY TRAVELED SOME OF THE CITIZENS DO EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN. I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER WE HAVE 1.5 MILLION TO USE AND YOU KNOW WHERE ARE WE GOING TO

PUT THAT. >> I'M IN FAVOR OF STICKING

WITH RESIDENTIAL. >> WAYNE, DO YOU HAVE FEELING?

>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IT'S TO ME IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT HOW MUCH COVERAGE WE CAN GET AND GET AS MANY RESIDENTS IN FRONT OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.

AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. I'M NOT GOING TO DOWN N-6 STREET VERY OFTEN. BUT IT STILL PUTTS THAT -- WHEN I LOOK AT IT. I SAY WHO IS REALLY GOING TO SEE WHAT WE ARE DOING? AND N-6 IS KIND OF REMOTE IN A WAY. NOT SAYING THEY DON'T NEED THE WORK. BUT TRANSFERRING THAT AND MOVING THAT OVER TO AREAS THAT HAVE MORE VISUAL APPEAL TO DOING THE WORK THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE TRIED TO CONSIDER A LITTLE BIT IN THIS WHEN WE GET THAT BANG FOR OUR BUCK N-C. I'VE LOOKED AT LIKE S-11.

AND MAYBE N-15B. THAT GETS PRETTY CLOSE TO A MILLION A LITTLE BIT OVER A MILLION TOO.

A MILLION FIVE ALSO. >> S-11A AND N-15B.

>> YES, SIR. >> I DO AGREE WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE RESIDENTIAL AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET AS MUCH COVERAGE AS WE CAN BE THE MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS.

WHY DON'T WE OPEN THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'M SORRY MR. MCCOY. >> THAT'S OKAY.

>> YOU KNOW, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, I AGREE WITH THE INTERSECTION. THE INTERSECTIONS EVERYBODY USES INTERSECTIONS. 9NOT JUST THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. BUT I KNOW THE INTERSECTION IS SOMETHING THAT ALL OF IN TOWN USE.

THAT WAY THE PEOPLE OF ABILENE WOULD SEE THAT MONEY BEING USED IN IMPORTANT SPOTS. I WOULD CHOOSE PROBABLY TO CONCENTRATE ON SOME INTERSECTIONS.

>> KEEP IN MIND THE INTERSECTION COST IS ABOUT

500,000. >> WE DO ABOUT THREE INTERSECTIONS. IT'S MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT ONE OF THESE WORK OF 200,000 WOULD BE ON RESIDENTIAL STREET.

DID YOU HAVE THE INTERSECTIONS IN MIND?

>> NO. >> AND GREG, ARE THESE MAINLY CHOSEN ALL THE ADDITIONAL. THESE SAY THESE ARE OUR TOP PRIORITIES. THIS INTERSECTION LISTS -- I'M GOING TO GO BACK HERE. THIS INTERSECTION LIST THAT YOU HAD BEFORE YOU HAS BEEN DEVELOPED BY STAFF AND I WILL SAY SOME COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS IF WE RECEIVED THEM FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC BUT IT'S REALLY BEEN FORMULATED

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AND ALSO THE TRAFFIC SERVICES DIVISION AND SOME INPUT ALSO WITH THE ENGINEERING SERVICES GROUP.

IT'S REALLY BEEN GENERATED INTERNALLY WHERE THEY CREATED THIS LIST AND I GUESS I WANT TO SAY, THIS IS A LIST THAT RODNEY AND BELLA ARE MANAGER OF THE STREET SERVICES REALLY AS FAR AS COMPILED INITIALLY. WE ADDED TO THIS.

AND THEN WE'VE HAD ONES WHERE WE PULLED OFF.

WE HAVE DONE SOME OF THESE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE LIST HAS BEEN GENERATED.

WE HAVEN'T SCOPED THESE IN DETAIL.

THAT'S WHY WE GOT A RATHER ROBUST NUMBER AS FAR AS BEFORE YOU. WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GENERALLY THE COST IS HALF MILLION DOLLARS IF WE LOOK AT.

WE HAVE TO UPGRADE GENERALLY 250 TO 300,000 IF WE ARE NOT.

>> HAVE WE TRIED -- DIDN'T WE TRY TO PAIR THE INTERSECTIONS WITH A STREET THAT'S ALREADY BEING REHABBED IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM. OR JUST RANDOM INTERSECTIONS.

>> THERE WAS A LIST THAT ALL OF YOU SAW.

SOME OF YOU SAW TWO YEARS AGO. THAT GOT PICKED OFF I GUESS I SHOULD SAY BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T COMBINED AS PART OF A BOND PROJECT. THEY WERE AN INTERSECTION IDENTIFIED THAT NEEDED TO BE REHABBED AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED ITS DONE AS PART OF THE BOND PROJECT.

I KNOW THERE WAS ONE UP ON NORTH SIXTH STREET.

I WANT TO SAY IT WAS WILLIS THAT WE HAD A NUMBER OF ISSUES WITH. DRAINAGE WISE.

ITS ON THAT LIST AT ONE TIME. BUT IT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE NORTH SIXTH STREET BOND PROJECT.

IT WAS DONE AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.

WE ALSO HAD I BELIEVE TWO OR THREE INTERSECTIONS THAT WERE PART OF THE SALES BOULEVARD PROJECT THAT WE HAD DRAINAGE ISSUE IN THE INTERSECTION ITSELF WAS ASPHALT AND JUST FALLING APART. WE HAD A FEW ON BUTTERNUT.

THOSE GOT PULLED OFF THE LIST BECAUSE THEY WERE INCLUDED AS

PART OF THE BOND PROJECT. >> ARE THESE ANY WAY TIED TO ANY OF THE OTHER ADDITIONAL WORK ZONE AREAS THAT WE COULD INCORPORATE A WORK ZONE AREA WITH AN INTERSECTION?

I HAVEN'T COMPARED THAT? >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, NO.

>> THEY WOULD JUST BE RANDOM INTERSECTIONS AND NOT IN

CONJUNCTION IF WE PICK -- >> ONCE STAFF IDENTIFIED THAT

WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH. >> THANK YOU.

MISS MCCAUGHEY -- MCCAUGHEY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BOARD DROVE OUT. I WENT TO EVERY INTERSECTION ON THE ORIGINAL LIST AND MADE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE DEFINITELY NEEDED.

BUT THERE'S SOME THAT REALLY THERE'S A LOT GREATER NEED ELSEWHERE IN MY OPINION. JUST IN MY OPINION.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA BEFORE WE TACKLED INTERSECTIONS IS FOR EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TO LOOK AT THE LIST. AND GO TO THOSE INTERSECTIONS AND MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. NOT SAYING THE STAFF DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY DOING. THEY DO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THE LIST THEY HAVE HERE THERE'S SEVERAL ON HERE THAT ARE NOT THAT CRITICAL IN MY OPINION. BY LOOKING AT THEM.

BUT THERE'S SOME THAT ARE. AND SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST I'M NOT SAYING INTERSECTIONS ARE NOT IMPORTANT.

I'M SAYING BEFORE YOU WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE SOMETHING OFF THE INTERSECTION IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GO TO EVERY INTERSECTION AND MAKE YOUR OWN JUDGMENT AS TO WHICH ONES DO YOU THINK ARE -- I CAN TELL YOU THE ONES I THINK -- BECAUSE EYE BEEN TO THEM.

I'VE LOOKED AT THEM. BUT ON THE WORK ZONES IT'S A LOT EASIER TO PICK THE RESIDENTIAL WORK ZONES BECAUSE THE STAFF HAS SAID WE'RE WORKING THIS WHOLE AREA.

IT'S NOT A MATTER OF LOOKING AT ONE STREET AND SAYING THIS STREET NEEDS BUT THIS ONE DOESN'T.

WE WILL DO THE WHOLE AREA. IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> AND I'M NOT SAYING NOT TO DO INTERSECTIONS.

I'M JUST SAYING IT PROBABLY WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS TO LOOK AT THAT LIST OF INTERSECTIONS.

BECAUSE WE WILL COME BACK TO THIS AGAIN IF WE DON'T DO INTERSECTIONS THIS TIME. I WILL COME UP AGAIN; CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. >> AS WE IDENTIFY INTERSECTIONS WE'LL BE ADDING THEM TO THE LIST.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ADDED THIS CYCLE AROUND. BELIEVE ME THEY WILL CONTINUE

TO GET ADDED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP A POINT. I'VE DRIVEN SEVERAL OF THE

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YOU CAN HONE IN ON THE CONDITION OF THE STREET DOWN TO THE GRANULE. THAT'S ANOTHER TRICK TOO.

JUST GO ON GOOGLE EARTH. I'M DOING THAT RIGHT NOW WITH SEVERAL OF THESE. YOU CAN ZOOM IN RIGHT TO THE PAVEMENT ITSELF. JUST A THOUGHT.

OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION.

FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS, CAN YOU OUTLINE WHEN WE -- WHEN OUR SUNSET IS? OR WHEN OUR BOARD IS DONE WHAT WE WERE CHARGED TO DO ORIGINALLY?

>> SO HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER THINGS AND DOLLARS TO SPEND. WIRE AS APPROACHING AS FAR AS YEAR. WE HAD YEAR '19, 20, '21, '22.

WE WOULD LOCK AT YEAR '23. AT THAT TIME THE CITY COUNCIL MY UNDERSTANDING WILL MAKE THE DETERMINATION ON WHETHER TO CONTINUE AS FAR WITH THIS PARTICULAR ACTIVITY OR NOT.

THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE OUT. >> WE HAVE -- WE ONLY HAVE ONE MORE YEAR OF OR TWO MORE YEARS OF LOOKING AT OTHER INTERSECTIONS TO ADDING INTO THIS.

>> RIGHT. >> ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE

OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT? >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL INVITE THE PUBLIC TO COME IN CONCERNING THIS ITEM.

AND WE HAVE A THREE-MINUTE LIMIT ON THE COMMENT.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

>> GOOD EVENING. DAVID SCHWARTZ.

I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME COMMENT.

FOR THE NEW MEMBERS, I WILL TELL YOU WHY I'M INTERESTED.

MY GRANDPA BACK IN THE 60S AND 70S WORKED FOR THE STREET SERVICES AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE SEVERAL TIMES HE WOULD BE REALLY SAD TO SEE HOW THE CONDITIONS OF STREETS LIKE MAYOR WILLIAMS HAS SAID. PRETTY MUCH HAS BEEN PUT ON THE BACK BURNER FOR 2-3 DECADES.

AND YOU REALLY IN THE DEEP HOLE.

IF YOU HAVE A BOAT AND YOU ARE SINKING.

YOU TRY TO DO SO MUCH YOU CAN. AS FAR AS SPENDING 1.5 OF WHAT IS LEFT. I WOULD DO THE OPPOSITE.

I WOULD PUT THE MONEY IN INTERSECTIONS BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE WILL GET THE BENEFIT OUT OF IT.

SURE YOU CAN DO WORK ZONES. IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC THERE'S PERCEPTION AS WE SPEND MONEY, AND WE'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING DONE. IF YOU DO INTERSECTION THAT THE PUBLIC USES, THEY WILL SAY, OH, WELL, IT HAS A SIGN HERE. SAYING STREET MAINTENANCE DOLLAR. I PAID IN ON MY UTILITY BILL WENT FOR THIS. THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO LOOK AT INTERSECTIONS EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY WANT TO PUT IT. ALSO WANT TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE. I TRAVEL A LOT.

YOU CAN SEE A DOZEN PATCHWORKS SINCE WINTER STORM THAT WE HAD LAST MONTH. ALL THE STREETS THAT ARE ON THE LIST. I'M SURE I DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE WINTER STORM DAMAGE TO ALL THOSE AREAS.

YOU HAVE TO DO THAT TOO. BUT I WOULD THINK DEPENDING ON SIGNAL UPGRADE. I THINK YOU SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON INTERSECTIONS BECAUSE PEOPLE TRAVEL IN -- GO THROUGH INTERSECTIONS. IF YOU DO WORK ZONE LIKE THAT ONE YOU MENTIONED UP AROUND THE INTERSTATE.

SURE LIT BENEFIT THOSE FEW RESIDENTS.

BUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL SAY, WELL I'M PUTTING MONEY IN MY WATER BILL AND I'M NOT SEEING NOTHING.

IF YOU DO INTERSECTIONS, PEOPLE WILL NOTICE THOSE.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S GOOD IDEA TO GO AHEAD AND SPEND THIS EXCESS THAT YOU HAD ON INTERSECTIONS.

MAYBE YOU CAN GET THREE DONE. MAYBE YOU CAN GET FOUR.

MAYBE FIVE DEPENDING ON IF YOU NEED SIGNAL UPGRADES.

BUT THAT'S MY TWO CENTS. AND I ALSO LIKE I SAID ABOUT THE WINTER STORM DAMAGE. I'M SURE THIS DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR WINTER STORM DAMAGE ON THE STREETS.

THE LIST WERE GENERATED BACK IN THE FALL OR EARLY BEFORE WE HAD STORM SYSTEM COME THROUGH IN FEBRUARY.

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>> THANK YOU MR. SCHWARTZ. ANYONE ELSE ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT CONCERNING ITEM NUMBER 2?

>> THERE'S NOT ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS ITEM?

>> MORE DISCUSSIONS. QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCCAFFREY?

>> OR WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION CONCERNING MAYBE -- MAYBE WE TAKE A VOTE ON OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME THAT PREFER THE INTERSECTION. SOME THAT PREFER THE RESIDENTIAL. WITHOUT TAKING A VOTE.

WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? >> MY QUESTION IS SINCE WE ARE THE NEW GUYS HERE. SEVERAL OF THESE WORK ZONES -- I KNOW 50% OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE STREETS. DO I CHOOSE THIS AREA FOR THESE PEOPLE OR DO I CHOOSE THIS AREA FOR THOSE PEOPLE.

HOW DO YOU CHOOSE THOSE AREAS THAT EFFECT THE MOST LIVES.

THAT WAS MY WHOLE IDEA OF CHOOSING INTERSECTIONS.

BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE. AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

I NEED TO DRIVE THE INTERSECTIONS AND SEE WHICH ARE. I'M NOT FOR REPAIRING AN INTERSECTION THAT DOESN'T NEED IT FOR SURE.

BUT IF THERE ARE SOME THAT NEED IT.

I WILL LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS AS YOU CAN'T PUT THE PERSONAL FACTOR INTO IT. YOU HAVE TO PUT THE STREET FACTOR INTO IT. AND NOT NOT MAKE DECISIONS

BASED ON THAT, I ASSUME. >> YEAH.

WHAT YOU ARE RELATING TO AS FAR AS TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED.

THAT'S THE QUESTION WE ASKED IN THE PAST IN THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE COUNT ON A LOT OF THESE WHERE YOU TAKE AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS YOU CAN. WE KNOW SOME OF THE STREETS ESPECIALLY THE MAJOR STREETS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AN INTERSECTION. IT'S EASY TO LOOK AT SOME OWES THESE SOUTH 27TH IN BARREL. WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC AT THAT INTERSECTION. BUT AS FAR AS THE WORK ZONES ARE CONCERNED, THAT REALLY IS FORMULATED BY THE STAFF.

OF COLLECTING THE STREETS TOGETHER FOR THIS AREA AND REDOING ALL THOSE STREETS THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED SO THEY BRING THAT WHOLE AREA UP TO AN ACCEPTABLE PAVEMENT CONDITION.

I GUESS, PROBABLY. NOT JUST THE INTERSECTIONS BUT WE NEED TO DRIVE THE WORK ZONE AS TO.

>> WE COULD. THE WORK ZONES YOU WILL SEE SOME STREET WORSE THAN OTHERS. BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET ALL THE WHOLE AREA FIXED. IT'S NOT AS -- MATTER OF GOING TO ONE SPOT AND LOOKING AT INTERSECTION.

IT'S WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WORK ZONE.

>> YES. >> IT SEEMS TO ME IF I REMEMBER RIGHT,THIS BLOCK IS HORRIBLE.

THAT BLOCK IS NOT TOO BAD. AND THEN THIS BLOCK IS HORRIBLE. TO GET THE BEST MONEY SPENT THEY DID THE WHOLE -- THEY COULD CONTRACTOR WORK THEY CAN JUST KEEP ROLLING ON THROUGH. AND GET MORE DONE EVEN -- IN SOME OF THE WORK ZONES HAVE A LOT OF STREETS.

THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO CONTRACTORS WAS ABLE TO RAMP UP AND DO THAT WHOLE AREA LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THEY COULD HERE JUMPING THERE AND HERE. THAT'S WHY YOU SAW SOME BIG BLOCKS THAT WE SAW IN THE BORK ZONE THAT ALLOWED THE CONTRACTORS TO DO THAT ON THE ECONOMIES TO SCALE.

>> SOME OF THESE STREETINGS YOU DRIVE MAY NOT BE AS BAD.

THE NEXT BLOCK IS. YOU WILL TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU NEED TO TAKE MONEY THAT YOU DO HAVE EXTRA AND MAYBE CONSIDER THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL.

>> I THINK THAT'S BEEN ONE THOUGHT AS WHERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THE DCOA MONEY FOR INTERSECTIONS EVEN THOUGH THAT WILL END. I THINK NEXT YEAR.

BUT NEVERTHELESS ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

>> I UNDERSTAND IT. AND THE KIND OF DECISIONS WE MAKE YOU WANT TO TAKE IN THE PERCEPTION.

BUT THERE'S ALSO A REALITY ON NORTH SIDE RIGHT NOW WELL FIRST OF ALL THE CITY MADE UP OF RESIDENTIAL LIVE IN RESIDENTIAL AREA. THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN THE NORTH SIDE HAVE BEEN I'M NOT PUTTING THE NORTH -- I'M USING EXAMPLE. HAVE BECOME SO DETERIORATED NOW IT'S NOT COST EFFECT THETIVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH

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THEY THEMSELVES WILL ALSO REACH A POINT WHEREAS THIS TYPE OF MAINTENANCE WILL NOT LONGER BE EFFECTIVE.

YES, WE CONSIDER THE PERCEPTION BUT WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE IN THE REALITY AS WELL. SOMETIMES WE NEED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS THAT MAY NOT EFFECT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.

BUT IT WILL AFFECT THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

BECAUSE ALTHOUGH EVERYBODY MAY NOT USE THOSE ROLES.

THOSE PEOPLE LIVE THERE AND THEY USE THEM EVERY DAY.

I DON'T THINK I WOULD SINGLE DETERMINING FACTOR SHOULD BE PUBLIC PERCEPTION. AND I'M NOT SAYING IT IS.

NOR SHOULD IT BE WELL MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN TOWN USE THOSE STREETS. THOSE STREETS ARE A PART OF THE STREET SYSTEM. THIS IS STREET MAINTENANCE PROJECT. I THINK WE DO NEED TO CONSIDER IF WE HAVE IN THE PAST DOING WHAT WE CAN BE SOME OF THE MONEYS TO PREVENT THE DEGRADATION OF THE STREET SO THEY DON'T REACH A POINT LIKE THE OTHER ONES HAVE WHEREAS IT'S TOO COST INEFFICIENT WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

>> I WOULD AGREE TO AN EXTENT. HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED SOMEWHERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OR NOT NECESSARILY THE NORTH SIDE BUT A WORK ZONE THAT YOU FEEL MIGHT BE MOST BENEFICIAL USING

THESE FUND? >> I'M REALLY NOT CONCERNED ABOUT NORTH SIDE SOUTH SIDE. JUST USING NORTH SIDE AS AN EXAMPLE. BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY MISS MCCAFFREY. THE DIFFICULTY IS WITH THESE TYPE OF TREATMENTS WOULD NOT BE BENEFICIAL.

WE WANT TO TRY TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING TO THE EXTENT WE CAN IN SOME OF THE OTHER WORK ZONES.

THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON I USED THE NORTH SIDE.

>> THAT'S MORE LIKE LETTING YOUR OPINION ON THE WORK ZONE THAT YOU FEEL MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL OUT OF THIS LIST.

THAT WAY WE MAY BE ABLE -- >> ALL THE RECOMMENDATION -- ONE WAS N-15-B.

N-6 AND S-9A. ANY ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE

SATISFACTORY IN MY OPINION. >> OKAY.

IT'S QUITE A DIFFICULT DECISION I WOULD SAY.

I CAN SEE THE PROS AND THE CONS OF BOTH SIDES.

IS THERE A WAY WE COULD REACH A COMPROMISE.

ARE WE ABLE TO DO AN INTERSECTION AND THEN DO SOME OF THE WORK ZONES? RIGHT?

>> OKAY. >> JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT ANGLE. I CAN THINK OF SEVERAL INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE STICK OUT.

I THINK NORTH 18TH AND HICKORY THE LAST TIME I DROVE THAT ONE IT LOOKED A LITTLE BIT AWFUL TO ME.

DID I HEAR SOMEONE SAY SOME INTERSECTIONS DEPENDING ON SIGNAL UPGRADE COST COULD BE AS LOW AS $250,000.

OR DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? >> I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN EXAM. PROJECTS THAT YOU APPROVED IN 2021. YOU APPROVED THE INTERSECTION OF PINE AND 19TH STREET. PINE AND 21ST.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO REWORK THOSE INTERSECTIONS.

NEITHER ONE OF THOSE ARE SIGNALIZED.

THEY ARE ASPHALT. IT'S DETERIORATED BECAUSE THERE'S VALLEY GUTTER OF THAT INTERSECTION.

WE'LL THEIR THAT ASPHALT OUT AND RECONSTRUCT THE INTERSECTIONS OUT OF CONCRETE. AND THERE WON'T BE ANY TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION UPGRADES. AND THOSE WOULD COST

APPROXIMATELY. >> I BELIEVE THAT PROJECT CAME IN UNDER $400,000. DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT.

IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? >> SCOTT CHANDLER IS NODDING

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WE FIGURED IT SHOULD BE ABOUT $250,000 PER INTERSECTION WITHOUT TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION UPGRADES.

>> DOES THE STAFF HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHERE THESE FUNDS SHOULD BE USED? I KNOW WE ARE THE ADVISORY BOARD THAT WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY

THEY WOULD MAKE THE DECISION. >> WE TRY NOT TO GIVE YOU

THAT. >> I WILL SAY THIS.

WHAT WE TRY TO DO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS WHOLE PROGRAM WE LOOK AT IT AS A SYSTEM. WE LOOK WHERE CAN WE BEST SPEND THE MONEY. THEY DELIVER TREATMENT METHOD.

WHAT WE ARE SEEING THE WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN THIS PROGRAM, THAT IS THE TREATMENT THAT WE GET THE LARGEST GAIN I WANT TO SAY IN THE PCI. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT.

WE RAISE THE PCI OR PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX OF EACH SEGMENT THAT'S IN THAT GROUP. WITH HAVE FOUND BY THIS PARTICULAR TREATMENT WE GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR DOLLAR. WE LOOK AT THAT.

WHERE CAN WE GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR DOLLAR.

I LIKE TO THINK OF IT AS SPREADING A JAR OF PEANUT BUTTER. WHERE CAN I MAKE THE MOTION SANDWICHES WITH THIS JAR I HAVE.

THE WORK ZONES ARE THEY ARE BREAD AND BUTTER FOR US TO DESIGN ON THE STREET. I WILL SAY THAT.

THEY REALLY LIKE TO DO THOSE. I HAVE NOT SPOKE TO THEM DIRECTLY. BUT I KNOW THAT THEY LIKE TO DO THAT. BECAUSE THEY'VE INVESTED IN THAT TYPE OF EQUIP. YOU CAN SEE IT.

WE CAN SEE IT. IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

I THINK AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE; WE'RE FEEDING AS FAR AS THE NEIGHBORS. WE LIKE TO GO AFTER IF LARGE PROJECTS. THOSE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.

NORMALLY WE GET INTO BIGGER PROJECT.

2 MILLION AND UP. WE CAN GET WORK ZONE WE CAN DO IT FOR 4 TO 500,000 OR LESS OR THEREABOUTS.

I SHOULD NOTE IF YOU LAND AROUND 1.5, WE DO HAVE SOME MONEY AVAILABLE WITHIN THAT STREET MAINTENANCE FUND.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DOLLAR THAT WE'RE SETTING AT IF YOU CAME 1.6 OR 1.7. I THINK WE CAN ACCOMMODATE JUST BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE AND THE WAY THAT THE

PROGRAM HAS BEEN OPERATING. >> TO BRING THIS TO HEAD I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY THAT THE 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS BY USED FOR THE WORK ZONE S-11A AND WORK ZONE N-15B. THOSE ARE THE TWO WORK ZONES THAT MR. LANHAM REPRESENTED. THAT COMES TO 1,500,000.

THERE ABOUTS. I WOULD RECOMMEND -- I WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR S-11-A AND ZONE N-15B.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENT CONCERNS THE MOTION?

>> N-15B? AND THE SECOND ONE WAS --

>> S-11-A. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR

COMMENTS? >> WOULD YOU CALL FOR A VOTE?

[3. Discussion: Receive a Report and Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing on Street Maintenance Fee Fund and Project Schedules (G. McCaffery)]

>> YES. MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS THIS ITEM IS REALLY JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE FUND.

WE ARE CONTINUING TO RECEIVING AS FAR AS THE DOLLARS COMING IN. FOR THIS PROGRAM.

GENERALLY GENERATES A LITTLE BIT OVER 6.5 MILLION DOLLARS

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GENERALLY WE COLLECT ROUGHLY ABOUT 840,000 A MONTH.

IT SPLIT ABOUT 420,000 BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

THERE WILL BE REDUCTION AS FAR AS FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN COLLECTED. BUT WE HAVE NOT SEEN AN IMPACT AS FAR AS ON THE PROJECTS THAT WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS.

WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS POINT THIS OUT THIS NEXT ITEM AND I SHOULD POINT OUT ALSO ON THE FEES, I APOLOGIZE.

WE SUBMITTED REIMBURSEMENT TO THE DCOA.

FOR ALL OF PROJECT THAT WE COMPLETED IN 2019 WHICHES RIDGEMONT AND THE PROJECTS DONE IN 2020.

WE HAD A NUMBER OF THOSE. WE CALL DCOA-4 PROJECT THAT WERE JOHN KNOX; VILLAGE DRIVE IN THAT AREA.

TO RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENTS AS FAR AS FROM THEM.

AND I SUSPECT SINCE THIS WAS PRINTED.

WE'VE SINCE U.S.ED TH THAT -- RECEIVED THAT.

THE FUND IS GOING WELL. WHAT I WANTED TO POINT IN THE NEXT ITEM. BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF CALL IN ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORK AND IN STREET SERVICES.

THERE'S A WEB LINK THAT WE TRY TO KEEP UPDATED.

IT SHOWS YOU ALL THE STREET PROJECTS.

WHICH INCLUDES THE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE PROJECTS OR ANY OTHER SPECIALIZED PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE STREET RELATED. THAT ARE LARGE IN NATURE.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SMALL INTERSECTION ITEMS QUARTER INTERSECTION OR SO WE MAY DO. WE GENERALLY WILL NOT PUT THOSE IN THERE. JUST BECAUSE A PROJECT IS STARTED AND FINISHED SO QUICKLY.

WHERE WE ARE AT WITH 2021 PROJECT.

THEY ARE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

SEVERAL OF THEM WE'VE HAD THE PRECONSTRUCTION MEETINGS.

WE ACTUALLY ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH A COUPLE OF THE WORK ZONES ALREADY. THE CONTRACTORS MOBILIZED AND I FULLY EXPECT WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR MONTH AND A HALF ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AS FAR AS FOR THE 2020 YEAR. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN OF THE 2022 PROJECT. AS I ALLUDED TO ALREADY THAT EAST NORTH TENTH WE WILL MARRY WITH ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE AND ENLARGE THAT PROJECT. WE'LL WIDEN TO FOUR LANES.

BASICALLY IT'S -- JUST TO THE WEST OF GRIFFITH ROAD, IS WHERE WE WILL PICK UP AND WIDE THAN SEGMENT.

WE LOOK AT RESURFACING IT FROM ALMONT, I BELIEVE.

ALL THE WAY AS FAR AS TO THE LOOP.

322. WE WILL STILL DO THAT AS WE LOOK AT WIDENING THAT AND SMALL SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS.

I WILL GO HAND IN HAND WITH THE NEW ELEMENTARY THAT JUST OPENED. IF ANYONE AS FAR AS WATCHING THIS THEY WANT TO LOOK AT THIS.

WE UPDATE THIS MAP SOMETIMES WEEKLY AS FAR AS LISTING OF PROJECT. YOU WILL SEE AS FAR AS ACTIVITY THAT'S OCCURRING WITH THOSE.

IT WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED. IF THERE'S MORE INFORMATION WE WILL PROVIDE THIS TO YOU EVERY TIME WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING.

>> REALLY WHAT YOU SEE YOU ARE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE IN SCHEDULE

THAT YOU HAD BEGIN US BEFORE. >> WE LIKE TO THINK SO.

WE REALLY TRY TO GET ALL OF OUR PROJECTS THE GOAL TO TRY TO GET ALL PROJECTS AWARDED BY MARCH 1ST.

SOMETIMES WE HIT THAT. SOMETIMES WE DON'T.

WE WANT TO SEE THEM UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY MAY OR SOONER.

WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TRY TO GET THEM DONE SEPTEMBER 1ST, IF WE CAN. SOMETIME WE ALWAYS HIT THAT.

BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. THEY ARE MULTIPLE PROJECTS.

QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCCAFFREY ON THE SCHEDULE?

>> I DON'T. BEFORE WE GET OUT AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN TO INTRODUCE THIS, MR. CHAIRMAN, ON THE INTERSECTION COST IS THERE ANY WAY THAT COULD GIVE STAFF.

I KNOW THEY HAVE TONS TO DO. WE COULD SAY THAT'S HALF A MILLION INTERSECTION. THIS IS NOT.

WE CAN BETTER EVALUATE WHETHER WE WANT TO ADD THE

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WE CAN HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT COST OF INTERSECTIONS OR SHOULD WE JUST FIGURE HALF MILLION AND IT MAKES IT EASY.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORK ON YOU.

>> I THINK WE CAN GET WITH ENGINEERING SERVICES.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SCOPE THOSE OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND BE ABLE TO UPDATE THIS LIST FURTHER FOR YOU.

SO THAT ALL OF YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER FEEL OF IS THIS A 250,000 INTERSECTION OR MORE LOOKING AT 500,000

INTERSECTION. >> WE SURELY WITH DO THAT.

>> I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA. AS OPPOSED TO JUST FLAT OUT SAYING WELL I AGREE EVERY INTERSECTION HALF A MILLION.

IN THEORY WE KNOW THE BID MAY BE LOWER.

MAY BE HIGHER. I DON'T KNOW.

>> I WILL SAY THAT OUR BIDS EVEN ON CONCRETE.

THEY ARE COMING IN VERY WELL ALSO PER SQUARE YARD.

WE ARE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED WITH THAT.

WE'RE PLEASED. >> THOSE CONCRETE INTERSECTIONS ARE LOOKING GREAT.

THEY WITHSTAND YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT

POTHOLES OR THINGS LIKE THAT. >> THE ONE THAT WE RECENTLY DID UNDERNEATH THIS PROGRAM. 23RD AND BARREL.

THAT WAS THE MOST RECENT ONE THAT WE COMPLETED.

UNDERNEATH THIS PROGRAM. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN, WHILE WE TALK ABOUT THIS ITEM, I KNOW THIS WILL COME UP AGAIN IN OUR SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS.

THIS ITEM WILL COME UP. OUR NEXT MEETING SCHEDULED FOR

JUNE THE 3RD; IS THAT RIGHT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

. >> WANT TO MAKE SURE THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS KNOW JUNE THE 3RD.

>> IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CONCERNING THIS ITEM THIS REPORT GIVEN BY MR. MCCAFFREY ON THE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE

FUND AND PROJECT SCHEDULES? >> MR. SCHWARTZ?

>> THANK YOU ONE AGAINST DAVID SCHWARTZ FOR THE RECORD.

I KNOW ORIGINALLY I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY ALL OF US WENT FEW OF THOSE MEETINGS. THEY ORIGINALLY DCLA WAS GOING TO JUST GIVE US AN EIGHT OF OF CENT.

2.5 MILLION OUT OF THEIR HALF CURRENT CUT OF THE SALES TAX.

THEN SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY THEY DECIDED THEY COULD DO IT UNDER THEIR PROGRAM ANYWAY. I KNOW YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT.

BUT IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS SCHEDULE FOR THE FIVE YEARS THEY SAID THE LAST YEAR, LAST TWO YEARS THEY DCOA DROPS DOWN THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO JUST A MILLION DOLLARS FROM TWO. YOU KNOW YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION ALSO.

AND LIKE YOU KNOW MAY HAVE SCENE THE MAYOR'S STATE OF CITY ADDRESS. HE ALLUDED POSSIBLY IN 2022 THERE MAY BE MORE BOND ISSUES BEFORE THE VOTERS ABOUT THAT.

HE'S LOOKING I -- HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO WORK.

THE PROGRAM WILL SUNSET. AS A VOTERS WHAT THEY WERE -- THOUGHT THEY WOULD GET WHEN THE FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM.

I KNOW PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW THEY SAID OH WE CAN RENEW IT.

I THINK A LOT OF VOTER THINK IT WILL SUN SET.

AND I KNOW SOME OF THE BOND PROJECTS YOU KNOW I BROUGHT IT UP AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, WILLIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR OR WHAT.

I DROVE FROM 22ND, IT JUST DIDN'T LOOK QUALITY THAT WE HAVE LIKE ON NORTH SIXTH OR OVER ON BUTTERNUT.

27 AND 32ND. THAT'S BEFORE THE SNOWSTORMS. IT WAS PIECED TOGETHER. PAVEMENT WITH DIFFERENT COLORS. I THOUGHT, WOW, THIS DOESN'T LOOK NOTHING LIKE THE OTHER STREETS THAT WE'VE SEEN.

RIGHT THERE ON THE 1500 BLOCK WE HAVE THAT DRAINAGE BY THE SUPERMARKET, UNITED. AND I DROVE THAT FEW DAYS AGO AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE A MORE SMOOTH TRANSITION IN THAT DRAIN THERE.

I WAS HOPING THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

DRIVING OUT FROM OUT SOUTH LIKE 14TH OUT TO 27TH.

THE ROAD LOOKS SOMEWHAT BETTER.

I SAID THIS IS GOT GROOVES IN IT.

IT'S ALL DIFFERENT COLOR. IS THIS THE WAY IT WILL END UP. I HOPE THAT THE POLICE SAID I HAVEN'T DROVE THAT SINCE THE BIG SNOW STORM.

I PLAN TO DRIVE IT ONCE THE MEET SING OVER TODAY.

THAT'S JUST SOME THOUGHTS. ADVISORY BOARD, WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK OF THAT THE POSSIBILITY THERE MIGHT BE A BOND IN THE

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>> THANK YOU MR. SCHWARTZ. >> ARE THERE OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? REGARDING THE SCHEDULE AND THE MAINTENANCE FEE? SEEING NONE THAT'S THE LAST ON THE AGENDA. THIS ITEM DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY ACTION. SO WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED. AND I BELIEVE IT IS A

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