Apr 27, 2021 Landmarks Commission

[CALL TO ORDER]

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COMMISSION METTING THAT THOSE COMMISSION MEETS AND COMPLAINTS THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION IS SET FORTH UNDER THE CITY COUNCIL IN SECTION 1171. OF THE LAND TO MINUTE DEVELOPMENT CODE. FINAL DECISIONS ARE MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE BOOK OF ADJUSTMENT. [INDISCERNABLE]. LET'S SEE, THE MINUTES.

[1. Minutes: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Approving the Minutes from previous regular meeting held on December 8, 2020]

THROUGH THEM. >> WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.

>> I'LL SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR? I.

ANY OPPOSED? >> THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS ¦ THIS IS THE ONE I NEED TO SIGN?

[2. Discussion: Receive a Report and Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing on Certificate of Appropriateness 2020 Year in Review]

>> YES. DISCUSSANT? >> RECEIVE REPORT HOLD A DISCUSSION PUBLIC HEARING ON CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS 20/20 YEAR IN REVIEW.

SHOULD I READ ALL THOSE? >> YOU'RE WELCOME TO. WE COULD GO THROUGH THEM AND WHAT I HAVE FOR THE PRESENTATION IS REVIEW OF EACH ONE THAT WE WILL SPEAK ABOUT.

>> WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON 1234567 CERTIFICATES AND ONE AJO ZINE IS ETTA ZONING CHANGE?

>> IT'S ONE HISTORIC OVERLAY AND 6 CERTIFICATES. >> THE FIRST ONE WE WILL TALK ABOUT IS CA-2020-01 (1726 SWENSON ST.0. THIS IS THE SWENSON USE.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS. THIS WAS BUILT IN 1910.

AS A PRAIRIE STYLE HOME WITH SOME TOUCHES OF SPANISH COLONIAL INFLUENCES.

THE REQUEST WAS TO INSTALL STORM WINDOWS FOR LONG-TERM RESISTANCE TO RAIN AND WEATHERING. REPLACE AND ADD NEW EXTERIOR HANDRAILS AT 3 POINTS OF ENTRY TO THE HOUSE. HERE ARE SOME BEFORE PHOTOS. AND THE ONE ON THE TOP LEFT-HAND YOU CAN SEE THE STAIR RAIL ONLY EXTENDED TO THE FIRST STAIR.

NOW THEY EXTEND A LITTLE BIT PAST AND PEBBLES IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON WHY THIS

WAS NEEDED AND THE REPAIRS? >> THAT'S OWNING ONE THAT HAD EVER BEEN INSTALLED ON THE FRONT PORCH I THINK AT ONE TIME THERE WERE 2. AND ONE WAS MISSING ON THE OTHER SIDE. VERY RICKETY. THEY WERE SOMETIMES PREFAB PIECES THAT HAD BEEN PUT THERE YOU COULD LITERALLY SHAKE THEM. THERE WEREN'T VERY STURDY AT ALL. WE, THE SWENSON HOUSE HISTORIC HOME SOCIETY THE TRUSTEES USE THE HOUSE FOR PUBLIC FUNCTIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING AND GOING FOR WEDDINGS, DINNER PARTIES, ALL KINDS OF FUNCTIONS THAT WE RENTED OUT. WE REALLY FELT LIKE ESPECIALLY ELDERLY NEEDED HELP OF THE STAIRS AND WE NEEDED SOMETHING SUPER STURDY TO HOLD ONTO.

THE NEW ONES ARE SO STURDY. IT IS AMAZING. ON THE SOUTH, THE LEFT-HAND

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THAT GOES TO THE SUNROOM ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. WE INSTALL THOSE EVENT THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS GOING DOWN THE SIDE OF THE KITCHEN STAIRS THAT WAS ON THE RIGHT HAND BOTTOM.

IT WAS SUPER RICKETY. THEY WOULD MOVE ALL OF THE PLACE WE TRY TO GRAB IT.

AND HE WHO THERE IS NO RAILING AROUND THE PORCH. FRONT PORCH PROBABLY, OH I DON'T KNOW THEY WERE 3 AND A HALF FEET OFF THE GROUND. WE BUILT IT SO NOW YOU CAN BACKUP WITH THE PICKUP TRUCK OR ANY KIND OF TRAILER THAT USED TO UNLOAD FOR EVENTS THAT HAS A SWING OPEN GATE ON THE END OF THE COURT. THE MAN THAT DID IT FOR US DID A REALLY GOOD JOB. IT WAS ALL NICE AND SQUARE. IT'S ALL CUSTOM-BUILT.

HE DID IT HIS BEST TO MAKE IT UNIFORM IN EVERY SINGLE PIECE HAD TO BE HAND CUT AND HE DID A

REALLY GOOD JOB. IT'S A LOT SAFER. >> HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A

FUNCTIONS? >> YES, EVERYBODY LOVES IT. EVEN OUR BOARD HAS SOME OLDER MEN AND THE REALLY THANKFUL FOR ALL THE RAILINGS ON THE DIFFERENT STAIR AREAS.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT SUCCESS. >> IT LOOKS GREAT. WERE PROUD WE WERE ABLE TO FIND

AN ALTERNATIVE. >> ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WAS SO HARD IT WAS A ¦

>> THEY CHANGED EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. >> THEY DIDN'T DO VERY GOOD ON THE BRICKS ON THE SIDE BUT I THINK THEY DID A GOOD JOB ON THE RAILING.

>> THANK YOU. THE HOUSE HAD A BIG RENOVATION AND CHANGE THE STYLE OF THE

HOUSE. . >> GREAT.

HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE STORM WINDOWS THAT YOU GUYS REPLACED ON THE BASEMENT WINDOWS. I THINK THAT WAS WITHIN THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS TO PLACE STORM WINDOWS OVER THE EXISTING WINDOWS. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. WHEN IT RAINS, THE RAIN HITS THE CONCRETE AND SPLASHES UP ON THE BASEMENT WINDOWS. THIS BEFORE PICTURE WAS ALREADY AFTER WE HAD DONE A LOT OF WOODWORK REPAIR AND PAINTED ALL OF THAT. IF WE HAD EARLIER PICTURE THEY WERE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE. SO THEY REPLACED SOME OF THE WOOD, THEY PRIMED AND PAINTED THEM BEFORE THAT BEFORE PICTURE WAS TAKEN. THEN WE HAD WINDOWS INSTALLED, STORM WINDOWS AND THAT WILL REALLY HELP PROTECT THOSE WINDOWS.

LOOKS GREAT. KENNY PATEL EL APPEARED THAT'S WHAT WE AT WE WANTED.

I THINK IT WILL HELP PRESERVE THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS. THAT'S A WHOLE INTENT OF OUR PROJECT IS TO TRY O TRY DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO SAVE THE UAL EXISTING AS A GREAT ADDITION TO THE SWENSON HOUSE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THIS? NO, OKAY WE WILL MOVE ON TO CERTIFICATE CA-2020-02 (401 PINE ST.).

THIS WAS IN MARCH CH 2020. THIS IS FOR THE WINDSOR APARTMENT BUILDING.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1927 AS THE HILTON HOTEL. IT WAS BUILT BY DAVID COUNSIL.

IT WAS ACCEPTED INTO HISTORIC OVERLAY IN THE LATE 1980S. THIS REQUEST WAS TO REPLACE ALL WINDOWS FROM DOUBLE HUNG WOODEN WINDOWS THAT WERE PAINTED DARK GREEN TO VINYL DOUBLE HUNG BASE

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THEY UTILIZED KELLY MORE HISTORIC LIFESTYLE OF THE WEST SELECTION.

MY TO REPLACE THE FRONT ENTRANCE DOUBLE DOORS WITH WOOD DOORS THAT RESEMBLE THE ORIGINAL. THERE GET TO DO THIS. THEY RAN INTO SOME OTHER ISSUES WHICH WILL GO INTO IN A LITTLE BIT. HERE YOU CAN SEE THIS BUILDING IS PRETTY CLOSE TO US. IF YOU TAKE A STROLL DOWN YOU WILL SEE IT.

THERE PLACE 355 WINDOWS CURRENTLY. WHERE THEY REPLACED SOME, THE SMALLER WINDOWS ARE SINGLE PANE I'M THERE IN THE CENTER. THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO SEE.

FROM THE EAST FAC'ADE AND THEIR SANDWICHED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. THEY HAVEN'T REPLACE THE FIRST 4 WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR WINDOWS. THEY'VE SEEN DRAMATIC RESULTS FROM KEEPING THE HEAT OUT A LOT OF THE TENANTS HAVE SEEN DRAMATIC DECREASES IN THEIR ENERGY BILLS AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT STATED WAS THAT SIMILAR BUILDINGS THAT HAD THE SAME REHAB ROUTE.

WINDSOR HOTEL THEY WENT WITH BEIGE WINDOWS WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY DARK AND ONE THEY EMULATED THIS FROM WAS THE VERMONT BUILDING A BRAND HIM ALABAMA WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1925. WAS VERY SIMILAR. HAD A SIMILAR WINDOWS IN STOREFRONT AS WELL WITH THE GREEN STOREFRONT. ONE OF THE THINGS, REACH OUT TO HORATIO. HE WANTED PROVIDE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE IT HE WANTED TO THANK YOU WON'T FOR HEARING THIS. IN ACCEPTING THE REPLACEMENT OF ALL THE WINDOWS. WAS A BIG PROJECT THE COST QUITE A BIT OF MOANING.

WOMEN HAVE THE FREEST A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THEY WERE HIT PRETTY HARD.

THEY HAD BOTH THEIR BOILERS BUST. THEY HAD 3 PUMPS THAT WENT OUT.

THE COOLING TOWER WITHOUT A MULTIPLE PIPES BURSTING THROUGHOUT.

DIVORCE SOME TENANTS BUT WERE ABLE TO REGAIN IT. SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HAVE UNTIL GO THROUGH. WE TRY TO PROVIDE THEM SOME FORMS OF FEDERAL AID PROGRAMS. SOME APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE AS WELL.

CURRENTLY I'M WORKING WITH RATIO TO SEE WHO ELSE WE CAN HELP THEM.

TRYING TO GET THEIR MONEY BACK FOR THESE LARGE PURCHASES. THEY WERE ABLE TO REGAIN MOST THEIR CAPACITY LIKE I SAID. CONTINUING TO WORK. THEY PAINTED ABOUT 88 PERCENT OF THE BUILDING AND THEY PLAN TO FINISH WITHIN THE NEXT 2 MONTHS ALL THE WINDOWS.

THEY HAVE SOME NEW TENANTS DOWN ON THE FIRST FLOOR. ONE INCLUDES A JEWELRY STORE THAT'S GOING TO OPEN SOON. A BOUTIQUE THAN THEY PLAN TO ADD THE COFFEE AND COCKTAIL BAR WITHIN THERE. HERE SOME INTERIOR PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE THEY'VE DONE QUITE A BIT. THAT IS THE MAIN LOBBY.

THEY TURN THE OLD BANQUET HALL INTO A GYM. I THINK THE HINTED TO HAVE THE TENANTS ACCEPT THAT AND FOR OUTSIDE RESIDENTS TO TRY AND ACCESS THEM AS WELL.

THERE'S A PHOTO OF THE FINISHED LOFT. THE OTHER 2 STOREFRONTS ARE YET TO BE COMPLETED. THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PHOTOS HERE.

JEOPARDY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROJECT? ANY CONCERNS?

>> 2 THEY HAVE ANY TYPE OF INSURANCE ON THE BUILDING? >> I'M SURE THEY DO.

I DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT. >> IS ALWAYS IN THE BEST INTEREST TO TRY TO REPLACE A NUMBER TALK ABOUT REPLACING HUNDRED 80 WINDOWS.

DO YOU THINK THEY MET THE SAME OUTLOOK ON THE FAC'ADE ON THE FINISHED PROJECT?

>> I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB. I REACHED OUT TO THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION AND YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH APPLICANTS ESPECIALLY FOR LARGE BUILDINGS LIKE THIS. CHANGING TO VINYL FROM DOUBLE HUNG WOODEN WINDOWS WOULD'VE BEEN MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO JUST PURCHASE WOULDN'T WINDOWS. ONE OF THE CASES WILL REVIEW LATER ON, GLASS CASE AND REPLACE 39 AND THEY DECIDED HISTORICAL WINDOWS, WOULDN'T

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IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. >> IT TURNED OUT BEAUTIFUL ON THE OUTSIDE.

I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD. >> NEXT PROJECT THIS WAS HISTORIC OVERLAY ZONING FOR THE HOZ-2020-01 (910 HIGHLAND AVE.). THIS WAS THE WAY OF J FOR WHETHER HOUSE BUILT IN 1925 AS WELL. THAT'S THE ONLY RESIDENCE HERE IN ABILENE REPRESENTS ITALIAN RENAISSANCE ARCHITECTURE. IT WAS ACCEPTED AS NATIONAL PARK SERVICE FOR NATIONAL REGISTRY OF HISTORIC PLACES. IN NOVEMBER 2018.

THE TESTING HISTORICAL COMMISSION LIST OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES DECEMBER 2019 WAS REZONED TO RS 12/HISTORIC OVERLAY IN AUGUST 27 2020 ORDINANCE 2020.

GRIPPING THE NOT RESIDING AT THIS HOUSE. THE SECOND OUT AS AN AIR B&B.

I THINK THAT'S HER INTENTION FOR RIGHT NOW. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WHEN YOU SAY AIR B&B WHAT DO YOU MEAN? >> THAT'S PRE-MUCH A NEW FORM OF BED AND BREAKFAST WITHOUT AN OWNER TENANT PROVIDING BREAKFAST OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. IT'S A NEW ONLINE PROGRAM ALLOWING YOU TO WRITE OUT A RESIDENCE ASKED FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL. L.

>> DOES IT COUNT THE 2-STORY GARAGE AND BACK? >> YEAH.

>> SO THAT TENANT CAN GET THE CODE TO ELECTRONIC KEYPAD TO GET MY DAUGHTER'S PLACE THERE'S A KEY INSIDE THAT THEY CAN USE AFTER THAT. THE INITIAL ENTRY WOULD BE

ELECTRONICALLY SO THAT HOW THEY WORK AT. >> THIS MORNING IS CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE'S OF CA-2020-03 (726 AMARILLO ST.) SPOKE WITH APPLICANTS A WHILE AGO.

THEY HAVE STARTED THE RENOVATION BUT THEY HAVE YET TO COMPLETE THIS.

BELIEVE THEY HAVE WORKED ON THE ACTUAL EXTERIOR REMOVING SOME OF THE WOOD FAC'ADE.

WHAT THEY'RE INTENDING TO DO AS A SCARBOROUGH HOUSE BUILT 19 08 JOEL DAVIS ÃSCARBOROUGH.

ACCEPTED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT 1996. THEY WANT TO REPAIR THE PATIO AND DAMAGE TO THE ROOF AND THE FRAMING WINDOWS AND EXTERIOR SIDING AND HAD A TREE FALLING ON SIDE OF THIS PATIO IF YOU REMEMBER THIS. THEY WANTED TO REQUEST A RECONSTRUCTION. ONE OF THE THINGS IT WAS DIFFERENT WITH THIS PROJECT ECT WAS WAS ORIGINALLY METAL SIDING. I THINK IT WAS LOTS TO ALLOW YOU TO OPEN IT UP SO YOU CAN HAVE A BREEZE THROUGH THE PATIO.

THEY COULDN'T FIND THE ORIGINAL OF THAT SO THEY WANTED TO REPLACE IT WITH WOOD SIDING.

WHICH I THINK IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT ESPECIALLY SINCE WE COULDN'T DATE BACK WHEN THEY HAVE THE METAL SIDING. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? NEXT PROJECT WAS CA-2020-04 (102 CYPRESS ST.). THIS IS THE GRACE PARKING GARAGE. THE GRACE HOTEL PARKING GARAGE SIGN WAS ORIGINALLY FOREIGN AUTO BODY SHOP. WE'LL SEE LATER IN A PHOTO FOR ANOTHER TOPIC WERE DISCUSSING YOU WILL SEE SOME OLD PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE THE AUTO BODY SHOP SIGN AS WELL WHICH IS PRETTY INTERESTING. THEY WANTED TO DO WAS REPLACE THE SIGN LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE WAY. THERE WE GO. LITTLE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.

SO ORIGINALLY THE SIGN WAS A GRACE PARKING. WAS EXTERIOR, WAS ELIMINATED BY MICROBES OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE SITE MAY WANT TO CHANGE THE TEXT TO READ THE GRACE GARAGE FOR IT TO BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED. THEY FINISH THIS PROJECT QUITE

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NEXT PROJECT WAS CA-2020-05 (1149 N 2ND ST. + 151 CEDAR ST.).

THIS IS THE DC AWAY PARKING GARAGE. THIS WAS BUILT IN 1920 AS AUTO BODY SHOP. ITS COLONIAL REVIVAL. WAS ACCEPTED INTO HISTORIC PROPERTY IN 1989. WITH THEIR WANTED TO DO WAS REBUILD ALL THE WOODEN WINDOW CASINGS AND REPAIR ALL STEEL WINDOW CASINGS AND THEN WITHIN THEIR INSERT GLOSSY BLACK VINYL AND STEEL WINDOWS. SIMILAR TO WHAT THE GRACE DID WITH HER PARKING GARAGE.

THEY WANT TO REMOVE THE SOUTHWEST FACING GARAGE DOOR PERMANENTLY AFFIXED A NONFUNCTIONAL DOOR TO ADD SOME DIRECTIONAL PARKING SIGNS AND PAINT THE STREET FACING THE EXTERIOR ENTRANCES TO THE ORIGINAL COLOR WHICH WAS, THEY THINK WAS HIS TEXAS TOWN.

CANNOT BELIEVE THEY WERE ABLE TO PAINT THE EXTERIOR YET. NOT SURE IF THEY WENT THROUGH WITHOUT. LESS TIME IS OUT THERE I DID SEE CHANGES TO IT.

HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF IT. IF I CAN GET IT TO LOAD. THERE YOU GO.

THE STEELCASE WINDOWS LOOK GREAT. THINK THE ADDITION OF THE VINYL WINDOWS WILL HELP MAINTAIN THE APPEARANCE OF THAT APPEARED THAT A LOT OF THOSE DUDES THAT WERE CRACKED. THEY EVENTUALLY REMOVE THEM ALL AND WHEN THE ISSUES IS ALLOWED BIRDS TO FLY IN THERE, PACIFYING THERE. THEY DID QUITE A BIT TO MAINTAIN THIS INTERNALLY AS WELL. THAT IT NETTING INSIDE TO PREVENT THE BATS FROM STAYING IN. SO, YOU DON'T LOOK TO HAPPY

ABOUT THAT. >> I LIKED THE BOUNCER. >> THERE ARE STILL SOME IN THERE. THE DOOR, THE GARAGE DOOR IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE EXACT SAME AS THE ORIGINAL. YOU CAN SEE IT HAS A LITTLE CORNICES ON THEIR AND

HORIZONTAL LAYERS TO IT. IT'S QUITE CLOSE. >> DID THEY ADD GUTTERS?

>> THEY DID NOT. >> LOOKS LIKE IT'S FLIPPED AROUND LIKE A MIRRORED IMAGE.

>> OH YEAH I THINK THAT IS. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS. >> I COULDN'T TELL EXACTLY WHAT

HAPPENED IN THE PICTURE. >> THEY DID NOT HAVE THE GUTTERS.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON. >> I DON'T SEE WHAT I SEE.

THE GUTTER ON THE LEFT AND THEN THERE'S THE GUTTER ON THE RIGHT.

>> I THINK I MIGHT HAVE THE WRONG PHOTO IN THERE. I DON'T THINK OF THE RIGHT FOOT ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. I THINK THERE ARE 2 SEPARATE ONES.

I THINK I WAS MISTAKEN. >> IT SAYS IN A CLOSED STRUCTURE.

IS OUT OF SPEAKER SYSTEM? >> I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT THAT'S MORE OF A QUESTION FOR BUILDING INSPECTORS. I CAN LOOK INTO IT FOR YOU THOUGH.

>> SOME CITIES HAVE THEM. >> A SWARMS OF GOVERNORS I THINK THEY WANT TO REPLACE THEM. I'LL REACH OUT TO THE GC AWAY AND SEE IF THEY WILL CONTINUE WITH THAT. THE DID ASK HIM DIRECTIONAL SIGNS AND I DID NOT TAKE PHOTOS

OF THOSE. THEY ARE QUITE NICE. >> LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE DONE

EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO TAKE CARE OF THE BIRDS. >> THE BLACK LOOKS GOOD.

>> I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT FINAL WILL TURN OUT.

THEY DIDN'T GIVE A GREAT DESCRIPTION. THE ELECTRIC GRADES AND

ASBESTOS REMOVAL IT WAS A THOROUGH PROJECT. >> ON THE FRONT THEY HAVEN'T

PAINTED THE WOOD YET? IF SO ROB WOULD? >> THAT'S WITH A PENNY TEXAS TOWN. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT GOING TO PAINT THE EXTERIOR,

REPAINT THAT AS WELL. >> OH, ALL THE BRICK. OH.

>> HAD BEEN PAINTED BEFORE YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MARKINGS ON THE SIDE.

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>> JUST THE FAC'ADES THAT ARE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET RIGHT AWAY.

OOKS THAT PAINT A BAD SHAPE?Y. IT DOESN'T LOOK IN BAD SHAPE.

>> IT'S NOT TO BAD. IT'S JUST GENERAL MAINTENANCE AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO APPLY

FOR A CERTIFICATE FOR THAT. >> AND LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE.

>> YEAH, THEY REVITALIZED IT. WERE VERY HAPPY WITH IT. >> YEAH, LOOKS GOOD.

>> ANY OTHER CONCERNS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, EXCESS CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS CA-2020-06 (1545 N 5TH ST.). THIS IS FOR 6045 NORTH FIFTH STREET. WHAT WE CONSIDER THE VACANT HOUSE.

ABYSS BILTON 1915 BY DAVID IT'S A CRAFTSMAN ON FOURSQUARE HOUSE.

BUILT FOR CW BACON. HE WAS PROMINENT BUSINESSMAN IN ABILENE.

THEY REQUESTED TO REPLACE 39 WINDOWS. REPLACE THE FRONT DOOR GLASS INTENT TO A GLOSSY TYPE INTENT SO PEOPLE, THE FRONT COULDN'T SEE THROUGH THE HOUSE.

THEN THEY WANT TO REMOVE THE BACK DOOR AND RECONSTRUCT IT BECAUSE THERE WAS A DOG DOOR OR WHAT I CONSIDER A DOOR. THEY REPLACE THE INTERNAL WINDOWS FROM LAST TIME I WAS OUT THERE AND WASN'T ABLE TO SEE THEY REPLACED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

I DID REACH OUT TO THE CONTRACTOR TO VERIFY AND HE SAID THEY REPLACED ALL THE WINDOWS THAT THEY WERE WANTING REPLACED. THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION I GOT FROM HIM. THE DAY REPLACE THE FRONT DOOR AND SENT GLASS TILL GLOSSY TYPE GLASS AND IT DOES LOOK GOOD. IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.

ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? >> THIS WAS ANOTHER SLAM DUNK LIKE WITH THE BROWN INSTEAD.

HOPEFULLY IT MADE YOUR JOB EASY TO GET THIS APPROVED. >> YEAH THEY WERE GREAT.

VERY EASY TO WORK WITH. >> WE DON'T HAVE AFTER PICTURES?

>> I DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WALKING UP AND GOING UP AND TAKING PHOTOS OF THEIR WINDOWS.

I DID REACH OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY COULD SEND ME SOME PHOTOS.

I WAS A VERY COMFORTABLE DOING THAT. HAOKAY, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? OKAY. THE NEXT THING WERE GOING TO

[3. Discussion: Receive a Report and Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing on Federal Aid Program Highway Marker (Cedar and N. 1st Street)]

THIS WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION IN EARLY APRIL. IT WAS HIT DURING THE WEEKEND ON MONDAY, APRIL 6. JANE MOORE REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT THIS MARKER.

THAT IT HAD BEEN HIT AND DAMAGED. INITIALLY WHAT WE THOUGHT THIS MARKER WAS WAS REPRESENTING THE BANKHEAD HIGHWAY. WHICH WAS A FEDERAL WAY PROJECT IN THE EARLY 1900S. A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE BANKHEAD HIGHWAY EVEN THOUGH WERE NOT SURE THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE BANKHEAD HIGHWAY.

WAS ONE OF THE NATION'S EARLIEST TRANSCONTINENTAL HIGHWAYS.

THE BEGINNINGS CAN BE TRACED BACK TO 1916. WHEN THE BANKHEAD HIGHWAY ASSOCIATION WAS ORGANIZED TO MOTORBOAT THE HIGHWAY DEVELOPMENT.

THEY WERE ABLE TO EXTEND FROM WASHINGTON D.C. TO SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA.

IT'S PATH CROSSED APPROXIMATELY 858 MILES OF TEXAS PASSING THROUGH TEXARKANA, MOUNT VERNON, DALLAS-FORT WORTH, ABILENE, MIDLAND, VANHORN AND EL PASO.

IT'S ROUGHLY FOLLOWED BY YUMA 67 AND US 80 RIGHT NOW. IT WAS LISTED OR IS LISTED IN THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSIONS UNDER HISTORIC TEXAS HIGHWAYS AS A HIGHWAY MARKER. THAT'S WHY WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT WAS PART OF THE BANKHEAD HIGHWAY. FURTHER EVALUATION WE SAW THAT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OFF.

THE BANKHEAD HIGHWAY GOES THROUGH SOUTH FIRST AND NOT THROUGH NORTH FIRST.

>> CAN I INTERRUPT FOR SECOND. THE ONLY PLACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY WERE THE BANKHEAD ME TO ROUTES WAS ONE WENT THROUGH ALBANY AND IT CAME BACK DOWN CYPRESS STREET AND JOINT SOUTH FIRST STREET THERE. THE TAYLOR COUNTY HISTORIC COMMISSION HAD SAID THAT WAS FOR THE BANKHEAD HIGHWAY AND IT WAS TO COMMEMORATE THAT JOINING OF THE 2 HIGHWAYS BACK AGAIN.

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I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A MARKER THERE OR NOT. I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS MARKER FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND NOW TO SEE IT DAMAGED.

IT'S A LOW SO CLOSE TO THE STREET THAT I DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD GET ALL THE GEAR DOWN SO LOW UNLESS I GOT A POLICE CAR TO STOP AND BLOCK THE LANE OR SOMETHING.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT. I HAD MY SECOND MEETING WITH CHIEF DUDLEY AND I'LL ASK HIM

ABOUT THAT. >> SURE, THERE IS AN MARKER IN ALBANEY.

I DID GO OUT THERE BUT I FOUND A REFERENCE TO IT WITH THC'S WEBSITE.

>> IS AT ONE OF THE BANKHEAD SIGNS THAT WAS MADE. I HAD IT IN MY STUDIO SO WOULD GET RIPPED OFF. IT SAYS IT THE STREET THROUGH ALBANY.

>> DOES THE ONE IN ALBANY MATCHLESS ONE?>> THE PLAQUE DOES.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT LARGER BECAUSE A CONCRETE STRUCTURE WAS A LITTLE BIT LARGER.

BUT IT'S HIDDEN BY BRUSH. NO ONE REALLY TAKES CARE OF IT ALL THERE.

I DID REACH OUT TO TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION. I REACHED OUT TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS DEPARTMENT AND I WASN'T ABLE TO GET ANY REAL FEEDBACK AS TO HOW WE SHOULD ADDRESS THIS. I THOUGHT AT FIRST WE WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR HISTORICAL MARKER RELOCATION OR REPAIR APPLICATION THROUGH THC. THEY INFORMED ME WE DON'T HAVE TO. THAT'S MORE FOR THEIR MARQUEE SIGNS NOT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SINCE THIS WAS A FEDERAL PROGRAM.

THEY DID TELL ME TO REACH OUT TO THE CEMETERY DIVISION. I REACHED OUT TO THEM THEY COULDN'T PROVIDE ME WITH GUIDANCE EITHER. I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FOR THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE REGARDING THIS. IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET IN CONTACT WITH THEM ESPECIALLY BECAUSE ARE STILL DEALING WITH COVID RELATED AND WORKING FROM HOME. LET'S EAT, SO UNDER MY IMPRESSION WE DO NOT REQUIRE IT TO BE AN APPLICATION FOR HISTORICAL MARKER WITH LOCATION REPLACEMENT.

WHAT THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT IS HOW SHOULD WE ADDRESS THIS AS A COMMISSION.

RIGHT HERE ON THE RIGHT IS WHAT I FOUND ON THE WEBSITE AS A FEDERAL AID PROGRAM HIGHWAY MARKER. REPRESENTING IT. IT'S THIS LITTLE PLAQUE WITHIN THE MARKER INDICATING THE LENGTH OF THE HIGHWAY, THE EXACT SITE AND SUBMIT AND YOU CAN SEE A CAR HIT IT. IF YOU ZOOM IN CLOSER TO IT YOU CAN SEE PAINT FROM THE BUMPER ON IT. I SPOKE WITH OUR TRAFFIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT ABOUT PPOSSIBLE REPAIR TO IT. THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP US OUT WITH IT.

AS OPPOSED TO SEEKING A THIRD-PARTY CONTRACTOR. BUT, WHAT THEY REALLY WANT TO

SEE IS A RELOCATION OF THIS. >> I WANT TO MENTION, EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE DISCUSSION

ITEMS THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING ON BOTH OF THEM. >> OKAY.

SHOULD BE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PREVIOUS ONE? >> PROBABLY SO.

I GUESS WE ARE READY PASSED IT, JUST SO WE DON'T MISS IT AT THIS POINT.

>> OKAY. >> OKAY SHOULD WE GO BACK TO THAT CERTIFICATE?

>> YOU COULD GO HEAD AND SEE IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM AND CONTINUE ON.

EITHER DISCUSS THIS NEXT ONE FIRST AND THEN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR HAVE THE PUBLIC

HEARING BACK TO BACK AND THEN DISCUSS. >> LET'S GO HEAD AND HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MARKER THEN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. CAN THE PUBLIC HEARING BE ON

ANY ITEM? OR DO I NEED TO SEPARATE IT? >> WE SHOULD'VE CALLED ON THE NUMBER 2. YOU CAN OPEN IT TOGETHER SINCE WE'VE ALREADY PASSED IT.

YOU CAN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS TOGETHER.

>> OKAY. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE HIGHWAY MARKER?

>> THERE WERE STILL SOME DETAILS I THINK NICK WAS ABOUT TO COVER BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE MARKER. IT MIGHT'VE TIED INTO ANOTHER HISTORICAL EVENT THAT OCCURRED LATER ON. WE MIGHT NEED THAT INFORMATION PROMPTLY TO BE ABLE TO VOTE

UPON IT.WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION BEFORE? >> IS THERE MORE INFORMATION IN

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THE STAFF REPORT? >> YES. SO WHY I BROUGHT UP THE BANKHEAD HIGHWAY AND THE FACT THAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS ORIGINALLY FROM THIS.

A CITIZEN REACHED OUT TO ME AND INFORMED ME HE'S UNDER THE IMPRESSION THIS IS NOT PART OF THE BANKHEAD HIGHWAY. THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE NEW DEAL IN 1936 TO ELEVATE THE RAILWAY ALONG NORTH FIRST AND SOUTH FIRST. THIS WAS A FEDERAL AID PROGRAM TO ELEVATE THAT RAILWAY. AND TO RECONSTRUCT THIS PORTION OF CEDAR STREETS IN NORTH FIRST STREET. THIS WAS A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE DATING BACK TO SEPTEMBER 6, 1936 REFERENCING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS ROADWAY. THIS IS A PHOTO, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE AND THEN YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT SERVICE PARTS COMPANY.

THAT'S THE GRACE PARKING GARAGE RIGHT THERE. >> YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOMAS

EVERETT FURNITURE THERE. >> YES, OKAY, SORRY. FURTHER TO THE RIGHT.

THIS IS INFORMATION ABOUT THE BANKHEAD HIGHWAY. ON THE RIGHT IS THE GRADE

SEPARATION REPRESENTING THE RAILWAY, ELEVATED RAILWAY. >> WHAT ARE THE DATES ON THE

BANKHEAD HIGHWAY? >> ON THAT MARKER IS FROM I BELIEVE IT IS FROM 1936.

>> THE MARKERS 36 BUT IF IT'S NOT FOR SOMETHING ELSE WHAT IS THE DATE OF THE BANKHEAD

HIGHWAY? >> IT STARTED 1916. >> YEAH BUT IT PROBABLY TOOK A COUPLE OF DECADES TO GET IT BUILT WITH A WOODEN SLATS OUTLET DEMOS ARE AREAS WHERE

THE CAR STRUGGLED OVER SLATS. >> I FOUND ONE FROM TEXARKANA THAT WAS ACTUALLY AN HISTORICAL MARKER THAT WAS MOVED TO CITY HALL AND NOT DATED IN 1928. SO IT KINDA MAKES SENSE THAT WE WOULD SEE SOME TYPE OF PROGRESSION ALL THE WAY TO ABILENE SEVERAL YEARS LATER.

>> ORIGINALLY HOW WIDE WAS THAT STREET? IT'S 2 LANES DOWN.

WHEN THAT WAS PUT IN TO THINK IT WAS 2 LANES? OR HAS IT NOW GOTTEN CLOSER

SINCE THEY METED A 2 LANE NE STREET. >> THERE'S PARKING ON THE STREET SO IT WOULD ULD HAVE NARROWED IT QUITE A STUMBLING THAT'S IN THE CONCRETE AND CURBING IN FRONT OF MY STUDIO IN SOUTH FIRST STREET AND THAT WAS FOR HORSES AND CARRIAGE.

T'S STILL THERE. >> WOW. I'M NOT TO SURE ON THE WIDTH OF

THE STREET ORIGINALLY. >> NOW THIS REALLY CLOSE TO THE STREET.

IF WE REPAIR RIGHT THERE IT COULD GET HIT AGAIN. >> THAT WAS OUR MAIN CONCERN.

YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THIS PHOTO RIGHT HERE. THE LITTLE ARROW IS INDICATING

IT'S IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> ORIGINALLY IT MIGHT NOT HAVE

BEEN SO CLOSE. >> THAT'S HOWEVER HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TO SEE HOW WE CAN RESTORE THIS AND IF WE SHOULD SEE IT RELOCATED OUT OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY TO PREVENT

ANY FURTHER DAMAGE TO IT. >> HOW ABOUT SOUTH UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACKS SO THE OTHER PICTURE YOU HAD WHERE IT WAS SHOWING THE CONCRETE BEING POURED.

CROSSWALKS AND THEIR AND AN AREA THAT I COULD FIT IN THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE OUT OF THE

TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT MORE. >> YEAH. THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF AN IDEA OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED. THIS IS A GOOGLE IMAGE. THESE ARE SOME AREAS THAT I TALKED ABOUT RELOCATING IT TO. ONE WOULD REMAIN IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY CLOSER TO THE BRIDGE. 2 AND 3 WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY OF 1201, ETC. NORTH FIRST STREET. WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK FOR THEIR PERMISSION TO BE LOCATED THERE.

>> YOU COULD PUT IT ON LOCATION ONE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALMOST INEVITABLE IT JUST GETS HIT AGAIN TO ME. IT'S NO SAFER THERE THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW.

>> YEAH. >> 1201 IS CITY PROPERTY LEASED TO ELITISTS.

THAT'S AT THE OLD BAGGAGE? >> OPT OUT LOOK TO THE ACTUAL PROPERTY OWNER IS.

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IF WE WERE RE TO RELOCATE. >> AND GO FOR ANY ONE OF THESE 3.

>> TRAFFIC DIVISION IS PREPARED TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION FOR MOVING THIS AND BUILDING IT IN

THE SAME LIKENESS OF WHAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN IN 1936? >> CORRECT.

IT'S A LARGE PIECE OF REBAR BUT HOLDS IT UP. IT COULD ALMOST BE BENT BACK IN PLACE AND RE-PATCHED IF WE IN THE SAME LOCATION. OUR CONCERN IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. SO, WE CAN OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE PUBLIC AS

WELL. >> DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE THE STAFF REPORT? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? WHAT Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THE LOCATION?

>> IT SEEMS LIKE ANY OF THE 3 WOULD BE ADEQUATE. YOU HAVE MORE PROTECTION ON THE BANK THERE. IF MEMORY SERVES THAT IS CITY PROPERTY.

TO DO IT AS THEY SEE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY AGREEMENT WITH THE CURRENT TENANT AT THE BUILDING THERE. THAT I BELIEVE CHOCOLATE. IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEGAL WHERE REQUIRED TO DO TO ALTER THE PROPERTY. YOU WILL NEED AT LEAST, WE WILL HAVE AN ENGINEER PRESENT. PROBABLY NEED A ONE BY ONE FOOT OR SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL SO WILL HAVE TO DISTURB SOME GROUND. OTHERWISE IT'S A FAIRLY SIMPLE

MOVE. >> IT WOULD BE PEOPLE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK THAT WOULD STOP TO READ THE MARKER. POSITIONS 2 AND 3 WOULD BE THE SAFEST AND THE MOST VISUAL FOR

PEDESTRIANS. >> I AGREE. >> 2 IS MORE PROTECTIVE BECAUSE IT HAS A LITTLE ABATEMENT IN FRONT OF IT. AND IT RAISES ITS ELEVATION.

PERSONALLY I LIKE TO. >> WOULD EMOTION BE TO WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE

MOTION? >> THIS IS JUST DISCUSSION. YOU CAN'T REALLY TAKE ANY ACTION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS STAFF IS WANTING YOUR FEEDBACK.

>> CORRECT. WE JUST WANT FEEDBACK. >> I WOULD GO ALONG WITH POSITION TO COME TO BE REPAIRED WITH THE SAME METALLIC METAL THAT GOES IN THERE.

>> I CAN REACH UT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND SEE IF THEY BE WILLING.

>> I THINK THE CITY OWNS THAT. >> OKAY. I COULD DO SOME RESEARCH.

>> THEY LEASE IT TO HER. >> MICHAEL WHICH ONE DO YOU LIKE?

2 OR 3? >> LIKE 3. >> ANY ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE GOOD. THERE WAS MORE PROTECTED ON NUMBER 2. YOU NEVER R KNOW WHEN SOMEONE'S EVEN GONNA COME UP OFF THE STREET AND ON THE SIDEWALK AND HIT NUMBER 3.

>> I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE LAWN MOWING EQUIPMENT HAVING TO CUT THE CORNER.

YOU CAN'T GET TO CLOSE TO THE BRIDGE ON NUMBER 2. >> THAT IS TRUE.

>> ETHICAL STILL STAY WITH NUMBER 2 THOUGH, SORRY MICHAEL. >> I L.

>> I AGREE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO THAT FOR FOR CURRENTLY IF

IT IS CITY'S ROPERTY WILL THE CORRECT CONTACT FOR HAT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU. OKAY WERE GOING TO OPEN ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS FOR TODAY THAT WERE 2 SEPARATE GROUPS IN DISCUSSIONS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK.

ON THESE DISCUSSION ITEMS. ANYONE? OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY OTHER BUSINESS? OKAY, WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING. THANK YOU. TH

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