[INVOCATION]
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>> MALE SPEAKER: BRAD, START WITH THE INVITATION, PLEASE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: DEAR, LORD, GOD, WE COME TO YOU AND WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING OF THIS DAY AND WENT TO THANK YOU EVEN THOUGH IT HAS PROBABLY CREATED SOME INCONVENIENCES.
BUT FOR THE RAIN THAT YOU HAVE REALLY SHOWERED ON OUR COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, EVEN THIS MORNING. LORD, GOD, HELP US TO REMEMBER EACH AND EVERY DAY THAT EVERY BREATH WE HAVE, EVERY POSITIVE MOMENT WE GET, THE FOOD THAT YOU PUT ON OUR TABLES, THE FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS THAT GET TO LIVE AROUND, EACH OF THOSE BLESSINGS, GOD, COMES FROM YOU. HELP US TO GRAB HOLD OF THOSE TO THANK YOU FOR THOSE AND TO DO OUR BEST TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THAT. AS WE COME TOGETHER TODAY, MAYBE DO OUR BEST TO BE THE STEWARD OF THIS COMMUNITY. MAY YOU BE BE WITH OUR LEADERS, OUR CIVIC LEADERS, OUR STATE LEADERS, OUR COUNTRY LEADERS
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AND MAYBE DO OUR BEST JUST TO GROW, DO DEPEND AND JUST TO REALLY SHINE YOUR LIGHT WHEREVER WE GO. IN YOUR NAME,WE PRAY. AMEN. >> MALE SPEAKER: HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE MINUTES? WE HAVE FROM OUR LAST MEETING. IS THERE ANY CHANGES, ANYTHING WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO THAT? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. WAIT JUST A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENT ABOUT OUR MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MINUTES? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO
APPROVE THOSE. >> MALE SPEAKER: SECOND.
>> MALE SPEAKER: MOTION IS SECOND WENT ALL IN FAVOR?
[PLATS]
>> GROUP: AYE. >> MALE SPEAKER: WE ARE READY FOR PLATS. JARED? WAIT, I ALMOST FORGOT. YOU CAN STAND UP THERE. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THE APPROVAL OF PLATS, HOWEVER ASK ONLY A RECOMMENDING BOARD TO THE CITY, COUNCIL MATTERS OF ZONING. THE DISCUSSIONS OF THIS. MAY BE APPLIED TO THE CITY COUNCIL -- MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE CITY SECRETARY NO LATER THAN 10 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS MEETING. ALL APPEALS MUST BE IN WRITING. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM UNDER DISCUSSION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AFTER RECEIVING RECOGNITION BY THE CHAIR, THOSE WISHING TO BE HEARD SHALL APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND PURPOSE FOR APPEALING -- APPEARING. EACH SPEAKER IS REQUESTED TO LIMIT THE PRESENTATION NO MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES, AND ADDITIONAL TIME MAY BE GRANTED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR. NOW
WE ARE READY FOR PLATS, JARED. >> MALE SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JARED SMITH, WORKING FOR ABILENE'S DEVELOPING OFFICE. THEIR FREE PLATS FOR CONSIDERATION: THE FIRST PLOT IS FRP-1621. THIS IS A FINAL REPORT WHICH IS GRADING LOT 101, 113, BLOCK B AND LOT 104, BLOCK C OF THE DERBY EDITION. SECTION OF THE FORMAL FINALIZATION OF TWO, THOROUGHFARE CLOSURE REQUESTS THAT THIS COMMITTEE APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR. SO IT IS A FORMAL FINALIZATION OF ABANDONMENT OF BEECH STREET BETWEEN AMBLER AVENUE AND SANDIFER STREET. THIS PLAT WAS REVIEWED AND FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 3, ARTICLE 2 OF OUR LAND DEVELOPING CODE WHICH ARE THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO YOU ALL TODAY WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: PRIOR TO RECORDING CITY STAFF MUST BE FURNISHED WITH THE TITLE, OPINION, OR TITLE COMMITMENT LETTER; ESSENTIALLY ENSURING OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY TO ME: ALSO THE DRAINAGE PLAN MUST BE SUBMITTED APPROVED BY THE CI ENGINEER AND ALSO DANCES NECESSARY DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE IN PLACE.
THE NEXT LOT FOR CONSIDERATION IS FRP-4221 : A FINAL REPORT WHICH WAS GRADING LOT 105 AND 206 OF THE ANTILLEY WEST EDITION. WE ARE NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ANTLEY ROAD AND MEMORIAL DRIVE.
THIS PLOT WAS ALSO FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 3, ARTICLE 2 OF OUR LAND DEVELOPING CODE WHICH ARE THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO YOU ALL TODAY WITH THE FOLLOWING G CONDITIONS: PRIOR TO RECORDING, CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER; ALL NECESSARY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE IN PLACE; OR A SUITABLE FINANCIAL GUARANTEE MUST BE PROVIDED TO ENSURE THE OBLIGATION OF ALL NECESSARY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
THE FINAL PLAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS AFTERNOON IS FP-3921. A FINAL BUT THAT'S CREATING A SINGLE LOT JUST OFF OF NORTH CLOCK. IT'S LOT 1, BLOCK A OF THE RHS PROPERTIES ADDITION. THIS PLOT WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 3, ARTICLE 2 OF OUR LAND DEVELOPING CODE, WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO YOU
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TODAY WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: PRIOR TO RECORDING, CITY STAFF MUST SEEK FURNISHED WITH THE TITLE OPINION OR TITLE COMMITMENT LETTER, ENSURING OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY; PRIOR TO RECORDING, PRODUCTION PLANS MUST BE FURNISHED TO THE CITY ENGINEER AND APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AND ULTIMATELY UNNECESSARY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE IN PLACE OR A SUITABLE FINANCIAL GUARANTEE MUST BE PROVIDED D TO ENSURE THE OBLIGATION OF ALL NECESSARY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.HAVING ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE REGARDING THESE THREE PLOTS AT THIS TIME.
>> MALE SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS FOR JERRY? THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: GREAT LAKES CHEESE DRIVE A CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. A RENC)E WUNDERLICH T COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION HERE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THESE PLAQUES? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE A VOTE OR FURTHER
[ZONING]
DISCUSSION? MOTION? >> MALE SPEAKER: MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL THREE WITH THE SPECIFIED CONDITIONS.
>> MALE SPEAKER: SECOND. >> MALE SPEAKER: MOTION IN THE
SECOND. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BARNETT?
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BENHAM?
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. NOONAN?
>> MALE SPEAKER: [INAUDIBLE] >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MOTION
CARRIES. >> MALE SPEAKER: KELLY, I WILL MOVE ONE ITEM UP ON OAGENDA. D NEED TO -- I HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT? > FEMALE SPEAKER: I DON'T THINK YOU NEED A MOTION. YOU CAN TAKE THAT ITEM 1ST.
>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THE STREET NAME CHANGE AS LETTER AND SEE 20 21.01 UP TO THE FRONT. I THINK NICK WILL TALK ABOUT THAT RECEIVER REPORT , RECEIVABLE REPORT AND HOLD A DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC HEARING UNDER QUESTION DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF ABILENE TO CHANGE THE NAME OF CORRIDOR DRIVE TO GREAT LAKES CHEESE DRIVE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY NAME
IS NICK. >> ,CITY PLANS FOR THE CITY PLANNING DEVELOPMENT STAFF. I WILL PRESENT THIS CASE, STRAIGHTENING CHANGE 2021-01 ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, DEVELOPMENT INCORPORATION OF ABILENE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE DCO A. AS TO THE CHANGE OF NAME OF THE CORRIDOR DRIVE TO GREAT LAKES CHEESE DRIVE, WE SENT OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO ANYONE WITHIN A 200 FOOT BUFFER OF THIS THOROUGHFARE. WE RECEIVED ZERO IN FAVOR.[INAUDIBLE] AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION. THIS IS A LOCATION MAP INDICATING THE THOROUGHFARE IN THE CORRIDOR DRIVE. YOU WILL SEE THAT IS EAST OF HIGHWAY 36. IT IS NORTH OF KENT SOLVING DRIVE. THIS REQUEST IS , ONCE AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF DCO A. IT IS FOR THE NEW 280,000 SQUARE-FOOT MANUFACTURING FACILITY FOR GREENFIELD PACKAGING PLANT OTHERWISE KNOWN AS GREAT LAKES CHEESE. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS REQUEST. IT WILL BE LOCATED TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, THE.NEW FRACTURING PLANT. THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON IT. THIS IS ZONING MAP INDICATING THE ZONING OF THE PARCELS ADJACENT TO THE THOROUGHFARE AS SOON AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN SEE THAT HIGHWAY 36 IS AN ARTERIAL.
THERE ARE VIEWS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES. ONCE AGAIN, NOTIFICATIONS SENT OUT TO EVERYONE, 200 FOOT BUFFER. ZERO IN OPPOSITION AND ZERO IN FAVOR. THIS PROPOSED STRAIGHTENING CHANGE WAS REVIEWED BY THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, THAT INCLUDES 9-1-1 ADDRESSING AND TRAFFIC SERVICES DEPARTMENTS. TRAFFIC SERVICES OBJECTIVE THE STREET NAME CHANGE AS A PROPOSED NAME IS TOO LONG TO FIT ON A STREET SIGN. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT INFORMED THE APPLICANT OF THE ABOVE ISSUE AND THE APPLICANT IS NOW REQUESTING AN ALTERNATIVE STRAIGHTENING CHANGE OF GREAT LAKES DRIVE.
ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS GREAT LAKES DRIVE. TRAFFIC SERVICES CONSIDERS THIS NAME SATISFACTORY.
THIS WAS REVIEWED PURSUANT TO SECTION 327 14 OF THE LINE DEVELOPING CODE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THESE CONDITIONS. CONDITIONS BEING CHANGED THE NAME FROM GREAT LAKES CHEESE DRIVE TO GREAT LAKES DRIVE. HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS! >> MALE SPEAKER: IS PROPOSED
THAT DRIVE THE ABBREVIATED? >> MALE SPEAKER: I BELIEVE SO.
>> MALE SPEAKER: YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR NATE? AND YOU,
>> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS NAME CHANGE? I SEE NO ONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SOMEBODY? >> MALE SPEAKER: MOVED TO
APPROVE. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I SECOND.
>> MALE SPEAKER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BARNETT?
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BENHAM?
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. NOONAN?
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MS.
[INAUDIBLE] >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MOTION
CARRIES. >> MALE SPEAKER: WILL MOVE BACK
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TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA. ZONING CASE Z-2021-15 RECEIVER REPORT HOLD A DISCUSSION ON THE PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST FROM MASCORRO PROPERTIES LLC TO CHANGE ZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS BRAD STONE AND I'M THE PLANNER HERE ON THE CITY STAFFF. IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO REZONE 10 VACANT LOTS IN THE 2400 BLOCK OF SHELTON STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY. IN HIS APPLICATION FOR ZONE CHANGE, THE PERMANENT INDICATED THAT HE WANTED TO BUILD TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS ON THIS LAND, WILL WHICH WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE CURRENT RS 6 ZONING BUT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY ZONING, WHICH WILL FROM THIS POINT ON WILL SIMPLY IDENTIFY AS MD ZONING.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LIES AT THE FAR NORTH END OF SHELTON STREET, NORTH OF AMBLER AVENUE, AND JUST SHORT OF SHELTON STREET'S TERMINATION AT VOGEL AVENUE.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTS OF 10 LOTS CREATED WAY BACK IN 1927 WITH THE SUBDIVISION OF THE ARTHUR SEARS PARK ADDITION. THIS LINE WAS SUDDENLY AND SUBSEQUENTLY ANNEXED TO ABILENE CITY LIMITS DURING 1954 AND THE STREET IN FRONT OF THESE 10 LOTS IS BELIEVED TO HAVE BEEN PAVED WITH CARBON GUTTER SINCE 1964.
HOWEVER, CITY STAFF CAN FIND NO EVIDENCE OF ANY HOMES OR ANY BUILDINGS EVER HAVING EXISTED ON THESE 10 LOTS. IN OTHER WORDS, THESE 10 LOTS HAVE BEEN VACANT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. IF THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS LEFT AS IS, THEN ONE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE COULD BE BUILT ON EACH LOT AT A DENSITY OF 6.6 UNITS PER ACRE. THAT IS 6.6 UNITS PER ACRE IS THE LAND ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY ITSELF. 6.6 UNITS PER ACRE.
IF PROPOSED MD ZONING IS APPLIED TO THE SAME PROPERTY AND IT IS DEVELOPED WITH TWO FAMILY RESIDENTS, AS HAS BEEN PROPOSED, THEN THE DEVELOPMENT DENSITY WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 10.6 UNITS PER ACRE. THIS MAP SHOWS THE ZONING SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SURROUNDING ZONING TO THE EAST-WEST AND SOUTH REMAINS IN SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. IT HAS BEEN SINCE AT LEAST 1960.
TO THE NORTH, ACROSS THE WIDTH OF VOGEL AVENUE, IS AN AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH JUST HAPPENS TO BE OCCUPIED BY ORTIZ ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS PERMITTED USES IN THE MD ZONING CLASSIFICATION. BUT I HAVE A COUPLE OF FUN FACTS ABOUT MD ZONING THAT DO NOT APPEAR ON THIS CHART BUT ARE A PART OF ABILENE ZONING REGULATIONS: IN MD ZONING, ON ANY ONE LOT, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE DEVELOPMENT DENSITY IS 12 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE; FURTHERMORE, ON ANYONE LOT IN AN MD ZONING DISTRICT, NO MORE THAN FOUR DWELLING UNITS CAN BE BUILT.
THAT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND IN COMING UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION. THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ITS SURROUNDINGS. ON THE UPPER LEFT PHOTO, WE SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ITSELF. IT IS LIKE A 500 FOOT LONG STRIP OF VACANT PLAND.
N THE UPPER RIGHT, WE SEE WHAT APPEARS ACROSS THE STREET, THAT IS ACROSS SHELTON STREET. THE PREDOMINANT DEVELOPMENTS SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY IS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE QUITE A FEW VACANT LOTS REMAINING. NEW.
OF THE LOWER LEFT PHOTO SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AGAIN, AND THE LOWER RIGHT PHOTO SHOWS ORTIZ ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGAIN ACROSS THE WIDTH OF VOGEL AVE. AND THAT IS VOGEL AVENUE THAT WE SEE IN THE FOREGROUND OF THAT PICTURE.
CITY STAFF NOTIFIED 23 OWNERS OF PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. WE DID RECEIVE ONE WRITTEN COMMENT IN OPPOSITION. AND I'M SORRY IT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE SLIDE.
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BUT THAT ONE COMMENT IN OPPOSITION CAME FROM THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OWNER DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, AGAIN, THIS IS ON SHELTON STREETDIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. . IN HIS COMMENTS O WRITTEN OPPOSITION , THAT HOMEOWNER DID NOT FURNISH ANY SPECIFIC COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION. CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVING THIS REQUESTED ZONE CHANGE TO MD ZONING. THE MAP OF FUTURE LAND USE AND ABILENE'S CONFERENCE OF PLAN DESIGNATES THE ENTIRE ARTHUR SEARS PARK ADDITION TO BE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THIS INCLUDES ALL 10 LOTS, WHICH COMPRISE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OF PROPOSED REZONING.EVEN ADD AS MANY AS 12 UNITS PER ACRE, GIVEN THE MAXIMUM OF FOUR DWELLING UNITS ON ANY GIVEN LOT, IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT ONE MIGHT CATEGORIZE SUCH THE LIMIT AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THIS PROPOSED MD ZONING WILL ALSO HELP ENCOURAGE USE OF THESE LONG VACANT PROPERTIES.
AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THESE LONG VACANT PROPERTIES HAVE LANGUISHED FOR DECADES WITH LITTLE OR NO PROSPECTS FOR BUILDING DEVELOPMENT. PROMOTING THIS KIND OF INFILL DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES OF ABILENE'S CONFERENCE OF PLAN. THIS WLL HELP MAKE EFFECTIVE USE OF EXISTING STREETS AND UTILITIES AS WELL AS OTHER LITTLE BIT FACILITIES AND SERVICES EXISTING NEARBY. THANK YOU.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: CHRIS COONS FOR BRAD? HOW DID YOU GET FROM 10.6 TO 12 UNITS? YOU SAID 10.6 UNITS PER ACRE AND THEN HE
SAID 12 UNITS PER ACRE. >> MALE SPEAKER: 12 UNITS IS THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM. IF DEVELOPED, WITH TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS, THE PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLATTED INTO A THINK EIGHT LOTS, EACH WITH AT LEAST 60 FEET WIDE. GIVEN THAT, GIVEN THAT, IT WORKS OUT TO BE 10.6 UNITS PER ACRE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM 60 FOOT LOT MINIMUM.
>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY. >> MALE SPEAKER: I WORKED OUT A SCENARIO WHERE THEY COULD BUILD, YOU KNOW, FOUR LOTS WITH FOUR UNITS ON IT, , YOU KNOW, FOUR LOTS WITH FOUR UNITS ON IT, +1 ADDITIONAL LOT WITH A TWO FAMILY RESIDENCE ON IT. IT WORKS OUT TO BE 11.88 UNITS PER ACRE. AGAIN, NO MORE THAN 12 UNITS PER ACRE, NO MORE THAN FOUR UNITS ON ANY GIVEN LOT.
THE PROPONENT HAS INDICATED OF COURSE THAT HE WANTS TO BUILD A DUPLEX OR TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS. THAT WILL GIVE YOU, AS I MENTIONED, 10.6 UNITS PER ACRE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRAD?
THANK YOU, BRAD. >> MALE SPEAKER: YOU'RE
WELCOME. >> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WITH ANYBODY LIKE TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE REZONING CASE? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL -- COME
ON UP. >> MALE SPEAKER: BRANDON'S CARL, JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MRS. TO THE, COMMITTEE HERE.
[INAUDIBLE] >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: SEEING NO ONE ELSE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL SECOND. >> MALE SPEAKER: COMMOTION IN
THE SECOND TO APPROVE. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BURNETT.
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BENHAM.
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MS. NOONAN.
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MS.
GLAMMING. >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BONHAM. >> MALE SPEAKER: Z-2021-18 TOLA REQUEST FROM WEATHERBEE CONSTRUCTION ROAST REQUESTED BY A CHILD GO FROM RESIDENTIAL SIX -- MEDIUM RTIES LLC -- MEDIUM
DENSITY. >> MALE SPEAKER: MY GOOD AFTERNOON. IAM JARED SMITH, I WORK FOR ABILENE LEADING A SERVICES OFFICE AND I WILL PRESENT Z-2021-16. OR OTHER PROPERTY IS WEATHERBEE CONSTRUCTION INC., PRESENTED BY AGENT AND PROTECT HIPS AND TODD. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE TWO DIFFERENT ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS FALL IN THE SAME TRACT OF LAND, WHEN PORTION IS RS SIX AND THE OTHERS PD. THEY WANT TO REZONE BOTH OF THOSE PORTIONS OF THE ZONING -- THOSE WHO TWO ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS THROUGH A MEDIUM ZONING DISTRICT. LOCATION IS 6160 200 BLOCKS OF
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JENNINGS DRIVE. CITY STAFF SENT A NOTIFICATION LETTER TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THIS ZONE CHANGE REQUEST. WE RECEIVED ZERO RESPONSES IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION. LOCATION MAP SHOWING AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE TWO PORTIONS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH ARE SUBJECT TO THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST. WE ARE NEAR THE NORTHWEST, NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE.BOULEVARD AND JENNINGS DRIVE. CURRENT ZONING MAP IS SHOWING THE PORTION OF THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST WHICH IS PERFECT ONLY RS SIX ZONING AS WELL AS THE PORTION EMBRACED WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 111.
PERMITTED USE SLIDE SHOWING ALL OF THESE USES ALLOWED WITHIN MD ZONING DISTRICTS. IS EARNING EXHIBIT, ONCE AGAIN, SHOWING YOU AND OF HOW THIS ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS PRESENTLY ARE AND WHICH PORTIONS OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY SUBJECT TO THIS ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.
IF YOU PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES AS WELL AS THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. NOTIFICATION MAP SHOWING THE EXTENT OF THAT 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. ONCE AGAIN, ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WHO FALL WITHIN -- PROPERTIES WHICH FALL WITHIN THE STORAGE NOTIFICATION AREA, THOSE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTIES WERE NOTIFIED OF THIS ZONE CHANGE REQUEST AND CITY STAFF. THIS IS ACTUALLY INCORRECT. I APOLOGIZE, AS OF EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION AND THAT IS AT 70151, THE PROPERTY ID -- LET'S SEE WITH THE ADDRESS ACTUALLY IS. EXCUSE ME. I AM SORRY.
IT IS 2734 MELISSA LANE. STAFF DID FIND THAT THIS REQUEST WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN IN THE FUTURE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP. IT WAS REVIEWED PURSUANT TO SECTION 14141.4 OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH IS THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL AND CITY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO YOU ALL THIS AFTERNOON. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.
>> MALE SPEAKER: WHAT WAS THE PRIMARY ZONING AND THE PEE DEE?
? >> MALE SPEAKER: IS ACTUALLY MEANT FOR OFFICE USES. SO THERE'S NOT A BASIS ZONING, BUT IT PERMITS OFFICE TYPE USES. SO THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT DUPLEXES, WHICH IS THE INTENT OF THIS REQUEST, WHICH IS TO
DEVELOP DUPLEXES. >> MALE SPEAKER: ANY DETAILS ON THE OBJECTION YOU RECEIVED TODAY?
>> MALE SPEAKER: I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I THINK IT WAS JUST A RESPONSE THAT THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION.
>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY. >> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH. JUST GOT THE SLIP BACK AT THE REPOSE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR JARED?
THANK YOU, JARED. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WITH ANYBODY LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ZONING CASE?
>> MALE SPEAKER: DAVID TODD, REPRESENTING WEATHERBEE CONSTRUCTION. AS JARED IS SAYING, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT RON SLAY TWO AND A HALF ACRES IS SURROUNDED BY MEDIUM DENSITY RIGHT NOW BE CHANGED TO MEDIUM DENSITY AND OFF THE PEE DEE APPROXIMATELY 50 FEET WIDE BACK TO MEDIUM DENSITY TO, TO FACILITATE A PLAT THAT WE HAVE PRELIMINARY ATTACK. AND ON THIS. UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, ME, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND MEDIUM DENSITY DID NOT CORRESPOND TO THDENSITY PER ACRE. AND THE REASON , THAT'S THE REASON WE HAD TO GET THAT LITTLE STRIP OF LAND OFF THE PD. ANYWAY, I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU, DAVID. ANYBODY ELSE? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND FURTHER DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.
>> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL SECOND. >> MALE SPEAKER: MOTION IN THE
SECOND. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BURNETT.
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BENHAM.
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. NOONAN.
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MS. FLEMING.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES. >> MALE SPEAKER: TO MS. BOTTOM.
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> MALE SPEAKER: Z-2021-17, RECEIVER. HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC HEARING ON REQUEST FROM WEATHERBEE CONSTRUCTION INC. PRESENTED BY ENPROTEC/HIBBS & TODD TO CHANGE ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACE TO RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THINK YOU. ONCE AGAIN, JARED SMITH AND I WORK FOR ABILENE'S PLANNING AND DEVELOPING SERVICES OFFICE AND I WILL SEND Z-2021-17. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS WEATHERBEE CONSTRUCTION INC., REPRESENTED BY AGENT ENPROTEC/HIBBS & TODD. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE TWO TRACTS OF LAND. EACH OF THOSE TRACTS OF LAND ARE GOING TO BE DIVIDED INTO TWO DIFFERENT ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS FROM AGRICULTURAL OPEN TO A MIXTURE OF MEDIUM DENSITY AND SINK FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RS SIX. I HAVE A GRAPHIC ON THIS
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PRESENTATION TO DIVVY UP AND SHOW IT BROKEN UP. LOCATION IS 22 THROUGH THE 3100 BLOCKS OF DEBRIS BOULEVARD AND THE 6500 BLOCKS OF HAMPTON HILL STREET, BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE.CITY SENT OUT NOTIFICATION LETTERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AN RECEIVED ZERO RESPONSES IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
LOCATION MAP SHOWING AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE TWO TRACTS OF LAND. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE AT THE INTERSECTION OF HAMPTON HILLS STREET AND THE BRIGHT GHT BOULEVARD.
CURRENT ZONING MAP SHOWING THE ZONING ON THE TWO SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTPRESENTLY WITH AN AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACE. ALSO HERE ON THIS MAP, IT SHOWS THAT DUB WRIGHT BOULEVARD IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL ROAD AS IDENTIFIED AND ABILENE'S ZERO FAIR PLAN.
PERMITTED USE SLIDE SHOWING ALL OF THESE WHICH WOULD BE ALLOWED WITHIN MEDIUM DENSITY ZONING.
THIS IS THE ZONING EXHIBIT THAT I WAS REFERRING TO THAT SHOWS HOW THE TWO TRACTS OF LAND ACTUALLY WILL BE DIVIDED INTO THE TWO DIFFERENT ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS. SO THE WESTERNMOST 270 FEET OF EACH OF THE TRACTS OF LAND WILL BE MD ZONING, WHICH WILL SERVE AS SOME SORT OF TRANSITIONAL ZONING DISTRICT TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO THE EAST, WHICH IS THE EASTERNMOST 250 FEET OF BOTH OF THOSE TRACTS OF LAND. PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES AS WELL AS THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
NOTIFICATION MAP SHOWING THE EXTENT OF THAT 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY, CITY STAFF SENT NOTIFICATION LETTERS TO ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO FALL WITHIN THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA, AND WE DID RECEIVE ZERO RESPONSES AND FAVOR IN ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
CITY STAFF FOUND THAT THIS REQUEST WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN IN THE FUTURE LAND USE AND DEVELOP A PLAN MAP. IT WAS REVIEWED PURSUANT TO SECTION 14141.4 OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH IS THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL AND CITY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO YOU ALL IS AFTERNOON. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME. >> MALE SPEAKER: JARED, IF YOU PULL DOWN A LITTLE WIDER VIEW ON DUB WRIGHT, I KNOW YOU CANNOT, BUT IF YOU HAD A WIDER VIEW ON DUB WRIGHT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS NEVER.[INAUDIBLE] NORTH OF THERE. WE SAID THE BASE ZONING OR SOME OF THE BASE ZONING IN THE PD, THE OFFICE.
WOULD'VE MADE A BIT MORE SENSE FOR ME TO PUT SOME RETAIL OR OFFICE OR SOMETHING OUT ON DUB WRIGHT AND PUSH IT BACK A LITTLE BIT RATHER THAN JUST MD RIGHT UP AGAINST IT.
>> MALE SPEAKER: RIGHT. GOOD PLANNING PRACTICES, MANY OF INTERSECTION OF THE MAJOR ARTERIAL AND A COLLECTOR ROAD SUCH AS THE JENNINGS AND DUB WRIGHT INTERSECTION. THAT IS IDEAL FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD NOT REALLY RECOMMEND STRIP COMMERCIAL DERAILMENT. SO YES AND NO, I KIND OF AGREE WITH YOU BUT, REALLY, THOSE INTERSECTIONS SHOULD BE CONCENTRATED WITH COMMERCIAL DIPLOMA, NOT NECESSARILY THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE OF THE BRIGHT.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY. THE BOTTOM ONE, IT'S A COLLECTOR ON
YOUR MAP? >> MALE SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT. INVERNESS WILL PUNCH OUT TO DO BRIGHT ONES ITS FINAL
PLOTTED. >> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY. THANK YOU, JARED. ANY QUESTIONS FOR JARED? THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DAVID, WANT TO COME BACK UP? YES OR NO?
>> MALE SPEAKER: DAVID TODD, FOUR OF TWO-SEATER. WE HAVE ENDEAVORED TO PRESERVE THE RS-6 BY DOING THAT STRIP RS-6 AND REQUEST AND IN TRANSITIONING TO SOMETHING A BIT MORE DENSER THAN THE MEDIUM DENSITY. THIS HAS BEEN VACANT FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE HAVE HAD TROUBLE GETTING THIS REZONED. IF SOME OF YOU CAN REMEMBER YEARS BACK TRYING TO GET THIS USE OF PROPERTY REZONED. WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> MALE SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVID? THANKS. ANYBODY ELSE? .
>> MALE SPEAKER: MY NAME IS WRIGHT LYONS, AND I LOOKE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE SMALLER , THE SMALLER REA THAT THEY WILL BE DEVELOPING. I HAVE A QUESTION: DO YOU KNOW IF THESE ARE GOING TO BE MULTI-DENSITY? WILL THEY BE DUPLEXES, SINGLE LEVEL, OR DOUBLE LEVEL, TWO LEVEL? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY JUST SPEAKING INTO MY BACKYARD FROM THEIR TWO LEVEL
DUPLEX. >> MALE SPEAKER: I UNDERSTAND.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY, WE DON'T HAVE ACTUAL RESTRICTIONS THAT PREVENT THEM FROM BUILDING A TWO STORY DUPLEX. IT WOULD BE UP TO THE DEVELOPER AND WHAT THEY INTEND ON DOING. ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE CITY OF ABILENE ALLOW A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FEET, WHICH ACCOMMODATES TWO STORY HOUSING IF THEY SO CHOOSE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SORT OF
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RESTRICTION THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM BUILDING TWO STORY DUPLEXES. IT IS UP TO THE DEVELOPER, SO DAVID TODD MAY HAVE A BIT MORE INSIGHT ON THAT THAN I DO.>> MALE SPEAKER: I'M JUST ONE PERSON, BUT IF IT'S GOING TO BE A DUAL LEVEL, I OPPOSE. BUT SINGLE LEVEL, LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE THERE, WE HAVE SOMEONE BEHIND THE NEW SCHOOLS BEING BUILT. THOSE ARE REALLY NICE. THAT WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM.
BUT NOTHING ANY HTHAN A SINGLE THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DAVID,
YOU CAN COME BACK UP. >> MALE SPEAKER: THE AREA THAT HE'S S TALKING ABOUT I BELIEVE IS THE RS SIX STRIP THAT WE ARE
ASKING FOR. >> MALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.
>> MALE SPEAKER: LE SPEAKER: AND THEY CAN BUILD TWO STORY HOUSES, SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES IN THAT AREA, THE DUPLEX. X.
IT'S GOING TO BE ONE STORY. IF I UNDERSTAND, THE MULTIFAMILY WILL BE ALONG THE EXISTING FENCE LINE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: NO, NO. OPPOSITE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT?
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I CAN. >> MALE SPEAKER: SEE --
P>> MALE SPEAKER: THE RS-6 A SINGLE FAMILY. [INAUDIBLE] E]
>> MALE SPEAKER: ANYONE ELSE? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> MALE SPEAKER: MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: SECOND. >> MALE SPEAKER: MOTION TO
APPROVE AND A SECOND. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: >> FEMALE
SPEAKER: MR. BURNETT? >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BENHAM? >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. NOONAN? >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEMS. FLEMING? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> MALE SPEAKER: TO MS. BOTTOM. >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MOTION . >> MALE SPEAKER: SHERRY, BEFORE WE JUMP TO THIS, I WILL SAY ONE OF THESE NEXT TWO CASES, WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AND WE ARE GOING TO LIMIT OUR TIME TO FIVE MINUTES, AND THERE IS:00 HERE. AT THE FIVE MINUTES AND I THINK YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE IT OVER THERE.
ANYONE WHO COMES UP, I REQUEST THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR TIME TO FIVE MINUTES ON THAT. ALSO, I AM SURE THE PROPONENTS BRINGING THE CASE FORWARD TO UNDERSTAND, BUT IT TAKES A FOUR POSITIVE VOTE TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD. THERE WAS ONLY FIVE OF US UP HERE, BUT IT STILL TAKES WITH IT US, FIVE OR SEVEN US, STILL TAKES A VOTE OF FOUR TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD IN THE ZONING CASE. SO WITH THAT, CHERYL? WAIT, I GUESS I BETTER READ IT. TRENT WILL RECEIVE A REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST ON EPLEN PROPERTIES INC. REPRESENTED BY BETCO HOUSING LAB TO CHANGE.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: CHERYL, IS PLANNING SERVICES MANAGER, BEFORE YOU TODAY OF CHANGING FROM IT MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY, APPROXIMATELY NINE LOTS ON THE MAC APPLING SUBDIVISION. ) IN
WEST CENTRAL ABILENE.. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: CHERYL, IS PLANNING SERVICES MANAGER, BEFORE YOU TODAY OF CHANGING FROM IT MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY, APPROXIMATELY NINE LOTS ON THE MAC APPLING SUBDIVISION. HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTIES STRICT IN YELLOW. THIS IS THE ZONING MAP. THE AREA STRIPED WAS ZONED IN 1974 FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND THEN PLOTTED IN 1978 TO LOOK LIKE THIS AND HAS ESSENTIALLY STAYED VACANT SINCE THAT TIME. THIS IS A FLOODWAY MAP. THIS IS PROVIDED TO YOU TO KIND OF SHOW THE ISSUES THAT MIGHT HAPPEN WITH DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PROPERTY AND THIS AREA, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WHY IT IS STAYED VACANT FOR SOME TIME AND PART OF THE PROPERTIES ARE IN THE FLOODWAY.
THIS IS PERMITTED USES PROVIDED FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING. AND THIS IS THE PERMITTED USES FOR ALL THE FAMILY. SO YOU CAN HELP THERE IS QUITE A FEW LESS PERMITTED USES FOR THOSE PROPERTIES, IF IT DOES CHANGE THE ZONING. HE REFUSED SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES. SO MOST OF THESE ARE LOOKING RIGHT AT THE EMPTY LOTS NEXT TO, ALL NEXT TO EACH OTHER. AND THEN JUST IN THAT BOTTOM PHOTO, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A PARKING LOT THAT IS A LITTLE TO THE NORTH OF THAT PROPERTY THERE.
THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR THE NIGHTCLUB ACROSS THE STREET. STAFF SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS PURSUANT TO SECTION 122 TO THE LANE DERAILMENTCODE TO THOSE WITHIN 200 FOOT RADIUS OF THE PROPERTY AND WE DID GET 10 IN A POSITION. MUCH OF THE OPPOSITION, YOU DID RECEIVE IN YOUR PACKET, WE DID RECEIVE A COUPLE MORE TODAY. SO THOSE DID NOT MAKE IT INTO YOUR PACKET. FOR THE MOST PART, ALL OF THE OPPOSITION THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN HERE DID MAKE IT INTO YOUR PACKET. STAFF REVIEW THIS PURSUANT TO SECTION 1414 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE TEACHER LAND USE AND
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DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP IDENTIFIES THE SUBECT PROPERTIES AS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, DUE TO THE PROXIMITY TO BUSINESS INTERSTATE 20 OR WHAT WE WOULD CALL LOCALLY HERE AS, AS SOUTH FIRST. MULTIFAMILY UNIT SERVICE AND APPROPRIATE BUFFER BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AREA YOU SEE ALL AROUND AND UP TO D UP TO SOUTH FIRST AND THE TRANSITION BETWEEN THAT MEDIUM DENSITY PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH.STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
>> MALE SPEAKER: QUESTION FOR CHERYL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY. >> MALE SPEAKER: THIS CASE CALLS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO COME UP AND OFFER AN OPINION,
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SUSAN WEBER. I AM HERE REPRESENTING ADRIAN PROPERTIES. OUR PROPERTIES ARE THE DUPLEXES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AN EMAIL WAS SENT FROM ADRIAN PROPERTIES TO Y'ALL ALONG WITH A LETTER, JUST WANTED TO CHECK TO SEE IF Y'ALL HAVE RECEIVED THAT EMAIL FROM ADRIAN
PROPERTIES. >> MALE SPEAKER: YES, THAT WAS
IN OUR PACKET. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET. OKAY. I AM ONE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THOSE DUPLEXES THAT THIS HOUSING WOULD BE DIRECTLY BEHIND MY FENCE. OUR CONCERN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH US ALREADY HAVING LOW INCOME APARTMENTS, BUILDINGS ON LEGGIT AND SEVENTH STREET, THE CRIME THAT WE HAVE THERE IS NOT -- IT IS BAD. BEING SQUISHED EEN A POSSIBLE HUD IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD LD TO BE PUT ON THIS PROPERTY ALONG WITH WHAT WE ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH IS A BIG ONCERN. ADRIAN PROPERTIES IS ALSO CONCERNED THAT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES ON THESE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO GO DOWN. WE HOUSE PEOPLE FROM THE BASE, PEOPLE THAT WORK AT THE HOSPITAL, PEOPLE IN LOCAL BUSINESSES. WE HAVE STRIVED VERY HARD TO BRING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BACK UP FROM A LOW INCOME TO A MIDDLE INCOME.
E WOULD LIKE OUR CONCERNS AND OUR OPPOSITIONS HARD. AND IT BE CONSIDERED ON THIS ZONING, FOR IT TO BE A MULTIFAMILY
NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION? WOULD YOU BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY COMING IN ON THE LOTS? HOW, HOW WOULD YOU BALANCE THAT? THESE ARE CURRENTLY ZONED GC. IF THESE WERE TO GO TO MEDIUM DENSITY, HOW IS THAT, IS IT MORE PEOPLE LIVING THERE? WHAT WOULD IT BE?
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MORE PEOPLE LIVING THERE. WE ALREADY HAVE SEVERAL BUSINESSES. WE WILL COME TO KILL A NIGHTCLUB. IF THEY WERE TO PUT MORE BUSINESSES IN, WE WILL NOT HAVE CONCERNS. OUR CONCERN IS WHEN YOU START BRINGING IN LOW INCOME HOUSING, YOU START HAVING MORE ISSUES. THAT IS WHERE OUR CONCERN IS. WITH THE WAY THE WORLD HAS BECOME, OUR CONCERNS ARE VERY, VERY HIGH. N THIS.
I REALLY FEEL THAT PUTTING A MULTIFAMILY HUD LOW INCOME IS GOING TO CAUSE A LOT MORE ISSUES, A LOT MORE ISSUES. IF WE CAN KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS OWNED NOW, WE WOULD WELCOME -- I WOULD EVEN PICK A PETITION. WE WOULD WELCOME HAVING
BUSINESSES PUT BACK THERE. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: WHICH PROPERTY ARE YOU WITH AGAIN?
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I AM LOCATED --
>> MALE SPEAKER: RIGHT THERE. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I AM BASICALLY -- OKAY. I AM PROBABLY RIGHT THERE AT 13147.
MY ADDRESS IS 4072 RUSSELL AVENUE. I LIVE IN A DUPLEX AND MANAGE THE DUPLEXES. I ALSO WORK FOR ADRIAN PROPERTIES AND
REPRESENT ADRIAN PROPERTIES. >> MALE SPEAKER: DOES ADRIAN PROPERTIES OWN ALL OF THOSE ALONG THERE? ADRIAN, ALL THE
RED DOTS ALONG RUSSELL? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES, SIR.
THE ONLY ONES THAT WE DON'T ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE ACROSS LEXINGTON. GOES TOWARD
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PIONEER. THERE IS THE ONLY TWO THAT WE DO NOT OWN. WE OWN NINE BUILDINGS. ON RUSSELL AVENUE.>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER! MY NAME IS MICHAEL BEER WITH BETCA CONSULTING AND I'M PRETTY SURE MOST OF Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY WONDERING WHAT EXACTLY OUR PRODUCT IS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE. MY BACKGROUND IS IN ACCOUNTING. I'M A CPA. AND THE PRINCIPAL FINANCING BEHIND THIS PRODUCT IS ACTUALLY TAX CREDITS. MOST PEOPLE THAT HEAR TAX CREDITS SAY, WHAT IS THAT? WELL, IT'S A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR REDUCTION HONORING INCOME TAX LIABILITY. WHENEVER YOU FILE A TAX RETURN. AND THE TAX CREDIT THAT WE ARE APPLYING FOR, IT IS CALLED THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX OR CREDIT, BUT THERE HAS BEEN LOT PUSH TO RENAME THAT'S TO WORKFORCE HOUSING . AND WHEN YOU SAY LOW INCOME, THE TARGET PLANS OF THE PERSON THAT THE PERSON ALLOWED TO LIVE IN THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE FROM $10,920 AT THE LOW END UP TO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SEVEN MARKET RATE UNITS WHICH WOULD BE ANYONE COULD LIVE IN THOSE. BUT ON THE HIGH-END OF THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, IT WOULD BE $45,120 AT TODAY'S CURRENT RENT PLUS THIS IS A BRAND-NEW BUILD, THE DEVELOPER THAT I REPRESENT, IF ANYONE HAS PLANS, I WOULD WELCOME Y'ALL TO WRITE DOWN PROPERTIES THAT HE HAS SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE QUALITY. THERE IS ONE IN DIEBEL CALLED DIEBEL PIONEER CROSSING. THERE IS ONE IN MINERAL WELLS CALLED ROYAL GARDENS AT MINERAL WELLS. AND THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES IN LUFKIN. LUFKIN PIONEER CROSSING FOR SENIORS, AND THEN THERE IS LEFT AND FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AND THERE IS ONE CALLED HENRIETTA PIONEER CROSSING. ALL OF THESE, WE GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE QUALITY PRODUCT THAT IS BUILT. WE ARE TALKING STONE SIDING WITH HARDY PLANK. YOU HAVE TO HIGHLY AMENDED AS THESE THINGS. SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING WOULD BE A HORSESHOE PEN, A PLACE GOOD BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, AND THERE WOULD ALSO BE GRILLS AND ND COVERED, LIKE, GAZEBOS. SINCE IT IS A TAX CREDIT, THE FINANCES IT, THE WAY IT WORKS IS A FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPER ENTERS INTO A PARTNERSHIP WITH TYPICALLY A BANK, BECAUSE BANKS NEED TO SATISFY A COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT REQUIREMENT.
AND THAT BANK WILL PURCHASE THOSE TAX CREDITS AT A CERTAIN AGREED-UPON PRICE, MAYBE AROUND $0.89 A CREDIT. AND SO, THAT EQUITY FROM THAT TAX CREDITS THAT THEY ARE PURCHASING ALLOWS THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE A 12, 13, $14 MILLION DEVELOPMENT AND CARRY A PERMANENT LOAN OF MAYBE ABOUT FOUR TO $5 MILLION. AND BECAUSE THEY CAN CARRY THAT PERMANENT LOAN AT A LOWER THAN THE ACTUAL COST TO BUILD, THEY ARE ALLOWED AND ABLE TO RENT THESE AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE.
THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE PROGRAM. THERE WAS NO HUD FINANCING IN THIS. IT'S LITERALLY GOING TO BE A BANK THAT PUTS MONEY IN THIS DEAL SO THAT THEY CAN GET THOSE CREDITS. IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM THAT WORKS FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS. USUALLY, THE RESIDENTS THAT COME IN HERE, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH INTENSE AKRON SCREENINGS AND CREDIT CHECKS. YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY STILL FOR THIS MEETING. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO LIVE IN HERE, YOU DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE TENANT -- FOR THE UNIT.
AND, AGAIN, THE LOWEST INCOME RANGE THAT WE WOULD BE TARGETING WOULD BE $10,920 FOR A ONE PERSON HOUSEHOLD. SO THAT COULD BE A SERVICE INDUSTRY PERSON. IT WOULD BE A PERSON WHO WORKS BUT CANNOT AFFORD A MARKET RATE RENT AND CURRENT STANDARDS. THE DEMAND ANALYSIS IS STRONG HERE IN ABILENE. OUR MARKET CITY PROJECTS THERE IS 184 NEW RENTAL UNITS NEEDED ANNUALLY CURRENTLY. AND THERE WAS A WHOLE LIST OF CURRENT INVENTORY TAX CREDIT THE MOMENTS THAT I WOULD WELCOME Y'ALL TO ALSO LOOK AT TO SEE WHAT Y'ALL ALREADY HAVE ON THE GROUND IN HERE. A BEAUTIFUL ONE IS CALLED VENTANA. THAT A TAX CREDIT DEVELOPMENT. ANOTHER ONE IS CALLED PRAIRIE GARDENS. 1/3 ONE IS TAYLOR GRANDE. I EVEN WROTE DOWN ANOTHER ONE, RESIDENTS AT AUTUMN STAGE.
SO Y'ALL LIVE HERE AND Y'ALL CAN LOOK AT CURRENT TAX CREDIT DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU CAN SEE THE QUALITY ITY. I BET YOU HE
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WOULD NOT EVEN REALIZE THAT THEY ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, BECAUSE THEY LOOK JUST AS NICE, IF NOT NICER, THAN A MARKET RATE UNIT. BECAUSE THERE IS AN EQUITY INVESTOR INVOLVED IN THIS AND BECAUSE THERE IS FEDERAL CREDITS THAT ARE INVOLVED, THESE PROPERTIES GO THROUGH A RIGOROUS COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENT. THEY HAVE TO BE INSPECTED EVERY THREE YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE BEING MAINTAINED. THEY HAVE ANNUAL AUDITS THAT THEY HAVE TO PERFORM. THAT'S ACTUALLY HOW I GOT INTO THIS, BECAUSE I WORK FOR AN ACCOUNTING FIRM THAT DID THOSE ANNUAL AUDITS.BECAUSE OF ALL OF THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES, THESE PROPERTIES ARE MAINTAINED AT OR ABOVE A HIGHER LEVEL THAN NORMAL MARKET RATE UNITS SAYING THEY HAVE TO STAY QUALITY.
AND I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE WOULD HAVE.
KEASLEY ERNIE ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: MICHAEL BEARD. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MICHAEL. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: HI. MY NAME IS WILLIAM CLARK, AND I OWN 3945 S. FIRST, I OWN A FIRST CHOICE MOTORS, MOTORCYCLES AND MECHANIC SHOP RIGHT THERE. WE EMPLOYED ABOUT 25 PEOPLE. MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THIS IS, NUMBER ONE, I HAD A VERBAL OFFER TO BUY GC PROPERTIES AND THEN THE CITY CAME OUT WITH THE TAX DEAL AND THEY JUMPED MY PRICE UP TO 200,000 TO BUY IT.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF WRONG NG GETTING OUT OF.
OWEVER, SEVEN DONE, I PLAN ON MOVING MY COMMERCIAL BUILDING OVER THERE AS FAR AS THE MECHANICS SHOP. SINCE IT WAS OWNED, FOR BUSINESS! LSO, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
THEY CHOSE TO GO THIS ROUTE. I AGREE THE LAND NEED SOMETHING, BUT UNTIL THEY GET $10,100 IS PRETTY LOW INCOME. IN MY CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY I'VE GOT WITH THE EMPLOYEES AND THE CUSTOMERS COMING IN AND OUT OF MY BUSINESS SS WHO IS NO LOT AND WE CARRY 750 CUSTOMERS THAT ARE, IN THAT WE TAKE CARE OF, IS HAVING ONE STREET GOING BACK AND FORTH IS THE SAFETY OF THEM PULLING OUT. IT WILL BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT ONE LITTLE ROAD ON EPLEN. AND I DO WORRY ABOUT THE VANDALISM AND THE THEFT CONCERN, BECAUSE I KNOW BEHIND DARRELL FORD, THAT IS A BIG CONCERN OVER THERE FOR THEM RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE GETTING A LOT OF ISSUES BEHIND THEIR PLACE WITH THAT, THAT AREA THAT THEY HAVE LOCATED. BUT THOSE MY CONCERNS WITH THIS. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MR. CLARK. MARIA SANCHEZ. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE THE OWNERS OF TEQUILA NIGHTCLUB. I FEEL LIKE RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE PRETTY BAD IN THAT AREA, ONLY BECAUSE -- ONLY BECAUSE IT'S OUR BUSINESS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 2017 N THERE SINCE 2017. AT NIGHT, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CUSTOMERS WHO ACTUALLY PARK ALL ALONG ONG ON THE PARKING LOT AND CIRCLE DRIVE. IF YOU LIKE THAT WOULD BE AN INCONVENIENCE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO LIVE THERE. ALSO, WE HAVE SEEN VANDALISM. THERE ARE QUITE A BIT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE ALSO THAT WALKBACK I BELIEVE IT IS SOUTH 1ST AND WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS IN OUR PARKING LOT, AND I FEEL LIKE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT WOULD BE LIVING THERE, THAT WOULD NOT BE GREAT FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES. WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE TRY TO BREAK INTO THE BUILDING ALSO. I JUST, I OPPOSE. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT IS AWESOME THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE AWESOME FOR ABILENE TO HAVE MORE RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT'S NOT THAT LOCATION. I DO FEEL LIKE IT IS A COMMERCIAL LOCATION. THAT'S
JUST MY OPINION, THOUGH GH. >> MALE SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. SANCHEZ? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: MY NAME IS JOHNNY ABILENE, MANAGER OF TEQUILA NIGHTCLUB. ANOTHER THING, ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS WILL BE THE NOISE. WE CHOSE THIS BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE HOUSES.
NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO BUILD UP TO IT. THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN KEEP THE NOISE DOWN LOWER THAN IT ALREADY IS! WE HAVE LIVE BANDS THAT COME IN HERE. WE HAVE NASHVILLE ACTS. WE'VE
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GOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO TELL THEM THAT THEY'VE GOTTA CUT IT DOWN. OF THE CUSTOMERS IN THE BACK OF THE CLUB CAN'T HEAR IT. IT'S JUST -- IN OUR CUSTOMERS PARK ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THAT STREET AT 10:00 AT NIGHT WHEN YOUR KIDS ARE OUTSIDE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FEEL WITH THESE CARS DRIVING UP AND DOWN, KNOWING THAT, YES, THEY HAVE BEEN DRINKING BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO A CLUB OR RELIEVING THE CLUB? IT IS SATURDAY NIGHT. YOU KNOW, HOW COULD YOU -- I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ADDRESS THAT. INVITES TO HAPPEN OUT THERE ON THE STREET.WE HAVE ARMED SECURITY AND WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE. BUT HOW DO YOU ADDRESS LIVING THAT CLOSE TO IT? THAT'S IT.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? MY NAME IS MATTHEW MISSION GO. I WORK FOR PAUL JOHNSON ASSOCIATES AND ALSO O PAUL JOHNSON MANAGEMENT COMPANY. WE ACTUALLY REPRESENT THE OWNER, DON EAGLIN, WHO OWNS EVERY ONE OF THOSE LOTS, ALL NINE OR 10 OF THEM. AND HE LIVES IN HOUSTON, SO HE CANNOT MAKE IT DOWN HERE TODAY. SO WE ARE SPEAKING ON HIS BEHALF. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT. HE HAS OWNED THIS PROPERTY, HIS FAMILY HAS. THEY OWN EVERY LAND UP THE WAY TO SOUTH FIRST.
IT USED TO BE BRIAR STONE MANOR BEFORE THERE WAS A CLUB THERE.
THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS. WE HAVE HAD IT LISTED FOR QUITE A WHILE. WE DID SELL THE PROPERTIES TO THE MOTORCYCLE SHOP AND THE PARKING LOT BEHIND THAT. IT'S BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR A WHILE. HAS BEEN OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE. THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY HAS HAD THIS UNDER CONTRACT FOR QUITE A WHILE, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.
IT'S NOT JUST HAPPENING OUT OF THE BLUE.
AND ONE THING: THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT EVERYBODY TENDS TO THINK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IF TYLER GRAND ON CAT CALL, IF ANY OF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT UGLY ONE OF THE NICEST APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN ABILENE RIGHT NOW. SO THEY HAVE RULES AND RESTRICTIONS THAT MAKE THEM, KEEP THEM UP TODAY AND KEEP THEM NICE. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK HARD AND CAN AFFORD TO LIVE A LONG BUFFALO GAP ROAD AND CAT CLAW AND OTHER PLACES. IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN AN AREA.
SOUTH FIRST, THE CITIES MOVED. THE ENTIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT OVER THERE OF PIONEER. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE CRIME IS COMPLETELY DOWN A LOT COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST RIGHT THERE IN THAT AREA ALL OF THE TIME. SO I AGREE. I GREW OFF OF LEGGIT. AS SOME OF THE HOUSING GOES DOWN, IT LOOKS BAD. BUT I WOULD JUST SAY IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT THEY HAVE DEVELOPED, YOU WILL GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THIS PROJECT WILL LOOK LIKE. AGAIN, DON EPLEN IS IN FAVOR OF THE! THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS?
>> MALE SPEAKER: WHAT PARKING LOT HAS BEEN UP FOR SALE, AS YOU JUST SAID? > MALE SPEAKER: THERE IS 14 383, THAT LOT WENT WITH THE DEALERSHIP ON THE CORNER. ALL OF THESE LOTS
HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR SALE -- >> MALE SPEAKER: I AM 151.
>> MALE SPEAKER: EXCUSE ME, SIR. HAVE NOT RECOGNIZED YOU,
SO. >> MALE SPEAKER: I AM SORRY.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS
FOR MATTHEW? >> MALE SPEAKER: GLAD TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU,
MATTHEW. APPRECIATED. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: WHAT ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO TO ADDRESS THE
ZONING CASE? YES, SIR. >> MALE SPEAKER: I AM GARY CRANE AND I OWN FOUR ADDRESSES TO THE NORTH OF IT. I ON THE PARKING LOT THAT CONNECTS TO THIS, AND IT IS NOT FOR SALE.
IT HAS NOT BEEN UP FOR SALE. I OBTAINED THIS PROPERTY IN '08 WITH THE UNDERSTANDING IT WAS ALL COMMERCIAL AND THERE. I OWN 109, 117, 133 EPLENS COURT AND I OPEN THEPARKING LOT ACROS
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THE STREET AT 150 EPLENS COURT . IN MY OPINION, IF THEY PUT UT THE NIGHTCLUB THAT IS IN THEIR LEASE, THEY WILL OWN 12 405, THE NIGHTCLUB WILL BE WITHIN 40 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. ON THE PARKING LOT, ON THE OTHER AREA, IT'S THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IS GOING TO BE RIGHT WITH IT. SO YOU ARE GOING TO RESIDENTIAL AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE NIGHTCLUB PARKING RATE THERE. THAT PROPERTY HAS HAD LIQUOR LICENSE ON IT SINCE '08. AND THERE'S A LOT OF CARS THAT PARK IN THE AREA. THAT STREET IS ALREADY JAMPACKED. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS DONE ANY RESEARCH ON THAT. IF THEY WAS TO LOOK AT THE PARKING LOT ON THURSDAY, FRIDAY, OR SATURDAY NIGHT, YOU CAN HARDLY GET UP OR DOWN THE STREET RIGHT NOW. SHE WAS SAYING, TELLING ME THEY WOULD ADD ANOTHER ROAD AND THERE POSSIBLY. BUT RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE THREE SECURITY GUARDS THAT WORK AT THE CLUB ALMOST ALL THE TIME. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DO. THERE ALREADY NOISE COMPLAINTS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. THERE AREN'T EVEN HOUSES CLOSE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, BIG CONCERNS ONLY HAPPEN RIGHT THERE. I THINK IT SHOULD STAY COMMERCIAL, AND I OPPOSE OF ANY CHANGES FROM GENERALCOMMERCIAL. THANK Y'ALL LL. >> MALE SPEAKER: ANYONE ELSE? DO I HAVE ONE OF THE QUESTION. I LIVE HERE IN THE DUPLEXES, LIKE MR. CRANE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT WITH THE MUSIC AT TEQUILAS NIGHTCLUB, WHERE I LIVE, I HEAR SOMETHING. I SUPPORT TEQUILAS NIGHTCLUB TEQUILAS NIGHTCLUB. THEY ARE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS. MY CONCER IS, LIKE THEY HAVE ALL SAID, ON SATURDAY NIGHTS AS THEIR MAIN NIGHTS, THE WHOLE PARKING LOT IS JAMPACKED. PUTTING A FAMILY RESIDENCE APARTMENT DUPLEX RIGHT 40 FEET FROM THAT IS GOING TO BE A NOISE ISSUE.
NOBODY IS GOING TO SLEEP. WITH IT BEING SO JAMPACKED ON THOSE NIGHTS, THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING LEFT FOR PARKING. SO THAT IS MY CONCERN ALSO.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
R: THANK YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: MY NAME IS ROGER CANALIS. I WORK FOR BETCO HOUSING CONSULTING. I WANT TO TALK TO A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE HAD.
WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WILL PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES ON THIS LAND AND WE ARE GOING TO -- OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO WORK WITH ALL OF THE COMPANIES THAT ARE IN THE AREA TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES. I MEAN, SOME OF THESE ISSUES, YOU CANNOT ADDRESS THEM UNTIL YOU GET THE PROJECT GOING. YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE AS YOU GO ALONG. YOU CANNOT ASSUME WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM DURING THE PROCESS TO GET THOSE THINGS RESOLVED.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE NOISE. THERE ARE CERTAIN MATERIALS WE CAN USE REDUCE THE NOISE. IT IS DONE BY RAILROAD SOMETIMES AS WELL AND THEY PUT UP APARTMENT COMPLEXES. WE COULD LOOK INTO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. . THE OTHER THING IS WE WILL PUT A BUFFER OF PARKING FOR THE AREA BEFORE WE GET CLOSE TO THE NIGHTCLUB AS WE LOOK INTO IT.
SO WE ARE LOOKING TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH ALL OF THE COMPANIES THAT ARE HERE TO TRY TO DO THAT AS WELL. AND THAT IS JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO
MENTION. THANK YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE YOU DO UNDERSTAND WITH THESE FOLKS
HAVE SAID. >> MALE SPEAKER: SURE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES, SIR. >> MALE SPEAKER: WHEN IT COMES INTO THE DESIGN AND WHAT YOU DO WITH THE PROPERTY.
>> MALE SPEAKER: ABSOLUTELY. LIKE I SAID, THIS HAS NOT BEEN SOMETHING WE DID OVERNIGHT. THIS IS THE PROPERTY WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT FOR SOME TIME TIME. BUT WE ALSO ARE NOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY BUILT PLANS AND EVERYTHING.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS AS WE GO THROUGH
THAT. >> MALE SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS?
>> MALE SPEAKER: ANY QUESTIONS?
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: WELL, MY ONE QUESTION IS WHAT THEY KEPT SAYING ABOUT THE WHOLE PARKING AND THE NOISE. IT SEEMS LIKE
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THERE'S ALREADY DUPLEXES IN THE AREA CLOSE BY. SO I AM ASSUMING THAT YOUR PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE CLOSER, A WHOLE LOT CLOSER. SO I WAS WANTING TO KNOW HOW YOU FELT ABOUT MOVING THAT IN THERE WITH THE NOISE. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU AREGOING TO WORK ON? >> MALE SPEAKER: LIKE I SAID, HERE ARE SOME MATERIALS YOU CAN HELP HER JUST TO HELP REDUCE THE RACE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE. THERE'S THE SPECIFIC SLIDING GLASS TOYS, THERE ARE TRIPLE PANE WINDOWS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO TRY TO HELP REDUCE THIS -- DOUBLE PANE WINDOWS THAT HELP REDUCE THAT SOUND. AND THOSE OF A TYPE OF THINGS WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO DO. WE WILL ADDRESSES MANY OF THESE ISSUES. SAME THING AFTER UNDERSTAND: IF THERE IS SO MUCH NOISE THAT WE CANNOT PRINT THEM, WE DON'T -- WE LOSE AS WELL.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY. >> MALE SPEAKER: SO THAT'S
SOMETHING I WANTED TO MENTION. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MY NAME IS SALLY FREDERICK. I AM A HOMEOWNER ON SAXON STREET, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE DUPLEXES. THE YOUNG MAN WASSAYING ABOUT TRIPLE PANE WINDOWS AND GLASS DOORS. OKAY. MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN '76 AND IS TOTALLY REDONE WITH TRIPLE PANE EVERYTHING. WINDOWS, GLASS DOORS. AT 2:00 A.M. ON A SATURDAY NIGHT, I HEAR THE THUMPING OF TEQUILAS. OKAY? SO ACROSS THE STREET, I AM LIKE 300 FEET FROM TEQUILAS AND I HEAR THE THUMPING. NOW, I'VE HAD MY ISSUES WITH TEQUILAS, BUT I WOULD RATHER HAVE TEQUILAS AND A COMMERCIAL VAN MORE HOUSING RIGHT THERE. WE'VE GOT HOMELESS THAT LIVE IN THESE VACANT LOTS. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK. BUT IS NOT RIGHT. TRIPLE PANE ANYTHING IS NOT COME TO KEEP
THE NOISE OUT. THANK YOU. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: ANYBODY ELSE? COME ON BACK UP.
>> MALE SPEAKER: IT IS ILLEGAL FOR ANYBODY TO PARK ON THE CITY STREET, RIGHT? SO THESE CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO TRY TO PARK IN FRONT OF THESE APARTMENTS. THEY JUST DO, THEY PARK UP AND DOWN THE STREET. IS THAT LEGAL FOR THEM TO DO?
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: IT IS LEGAL FOR CARS TO PARK IN THE ROADWAY AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT BLOCKING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
>> MALE SPEAKER: IS ANOTHER BIG ISSUE I HAVE BECAUSE THEY PARK UP AND DOWN THAT STREET. WE'VE GOTPARKING LOT BESIDE US, PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF US, AND ANOTHER PARKING LOT OFF OF OF SOUTH FIRST AND THEY ALL GET FULL. THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE TO PUT THEM, SO THEY PARK DOWN THAT ROAD.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING: OUR CURRENT DESIGN IS EXPECTED TO HAVE A PARKING LOT WRAP AROUND THE PERIMETER ON BOTH SIDES WITH TWO POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS. SO ANY PARKING ALONG THE STREET WOULD HAVE NO EFFECT ON THE RESIDENTS' ON-SITE PARKING IS CURRENTLY IN THE PLANT WHICH WOULD MEET THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR CITY CODE. SO PARKING IN THE STREET, IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE RESIDENCE OF THE SETTLEMENT AT ALL, IN THE PARKING LOT AS DESIGNED WILL ACTUALLY CREATE A BIT OF A BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENCE THAT WOULD BE CLOSEST TO THE NIGHTCLUB THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE. IT'S NOT MUCH OF A BUFFER, BUT IT IS SOME OF THE BUFFER GIVEN THE CURRENT DESIGN. AND I SHOULD NOTE FOR RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE DUPLEXES OR ADJACENT PROPERTIES, IF A BUILDING IS ERECTED ED THAT CREATES A SOUND BARRIER BETWEEN THE OLD, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE THE SOUND REQUIREMENTS, OR THE SOUND THAT YOU WOULD HEAR IF THIS WERE TO BE BUILT. AND MY COWORKER IS PCORRECT. SINCE THIS DOES HAVE FEDERAL MONEY IN IT, IT WILL HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS NS. IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT THE NOISE LEVEL IS OF A CERTAIN DECIBEL THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT SOUND MEDICATION, THEN WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT IT INTO OUR PLANS TO RECEIVE THE TAX CREDITS. SO THAT ALL HAS TO BE VETTED OUT WITH THE AGENCY. IT IS A STATE AGENCY. TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
THEY HAVE DONE THE UNDERWRITING ON THIS AND THEY WILL REVIEW THE ENVIRONMENTAL ILLNESS. AND IFTHEY SEE ANYTHING THAT IS CONSIDERED , SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO MITIGATE, ALL OF THE NORSE MEDICATION, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT IN OUR PLANS.
AND RAILROADS ARE JUST AS LOUD AS ANY NIGHTCLUB I HAVE EVER HEARD, AND IF IT CAN BE DONE CLOSE TO THE, IT COULD BE DONE IN A NEW BUILD. TO A LEVEL THAT PEOPLE CAN DO WITH.
I MEAN, THERE IS ALREADY RESIDENTIAL THERE. YOU KNOW? AND THEY ARE HAVING TO DEAL WITH IT TOO. SO I JUST WANTED
TO SAY THAT. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
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>> MALE SPEAKER: IMP FLORES, ONE OF THE MANAGERS AT TEQUILAS NIGHTCLUB. THE STREET IS ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. SO IS MEDICAL OR POLICE OR ANYBODY HAS TO COME TO THOSE APARTMENTS AND OUR HISTORY IS FULL, IT IS VERY HARD TO GET OUT. THAT'S WHY WHEN WE DID OUR CAR SHOW, WE DID NOT -- ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CLOSE OFF THE STREET BECAUSE IT WAS ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. THERE WASN'T AN EXIT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
SO I OPPOSE IT BECAUSE THE MEDICAL AND POLICE, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR THEM TO GET INTO THE APARTMENTS ON A FRIDAY OR THURSDAY. OR A SATURDAY NIGHT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: DURING OUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT PREDEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH THIS GROUP, THE FIRE MARSHAL ID GIVE SOME PAUSE AND SOME CONCERN TO THAT. AND SO, IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING IF IT WAS RESUMED AND THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT HAVING ANOTHER POINT OF EGRESS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS A PLATTED STREET THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TO THE EAST OF THAT.
BUT IT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE IT DID GIVE PAUSE TO THE FIRE MARSHAL.
AND SO, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY PLANS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HOUSING UNITS WILL LOOK LIKE, BUT THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION OF THE PREDEVELOPMENT MEETING.
>> MALE SPEAKER: ANYONE ELSE? FIXING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
HEARING. >> MALE SPEAKER: HELLO.
[INAUDIBLE] SANCHEZ AND I'M THE OWNER. LIKE I MENTIONED, I DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME, BUT HE MENTIONED WE WOULD WORK TOGETHER AS FAR AS AR AS NOISE COMPLAINTS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. OKAY. ONCE THE HOUSES ARE BUILT, THE HOUSE 40 FEET AWAY FROM MY CLUB, RIGHT? THEY START COMPLAINING TO THE POLICE. POLICE, AND THE ONLY GIVE YOU SO MANY WARNINGS.
THEY ARE GOING TO ISSUE ME A TICKET. ARE THEY GOING TO HITHELP ME PAY THAT TICKET, IS MY CONCERN. HE SAID WE WILL WORK IT OUT AS WEEKEND. ONCE THESE HOUSES ARE BUILT, HOW DO WE WORK THAT OUT? ONCE I GET A TICKET FROM ABILENE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I TURNED AROUND AND I GET A TICKET FROM.[INAUDIBLE] ALSO POINTS ON GETTING HIT BY TWO TICKETS JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PUT A HOUSE 40 FEET AWAY FROM MY CLUB NOW.
SO THERE'S ISSUES THERE, THAT THAT'S WHY I OPPOSE. I BRING NATIONAL GROUPS, BANDS THURSDAYS, FRIDAYS. COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, ROCK, TEXAS COUNTRY, SPANISH, I JUST HAD A BIG CAR SHOW IN THE PARKING LOT. I BROUGHT IN PEOPLE FROM CALIFORNIA, BRIGHTEN PEOPLE FROM COLORADO. THIS IS ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING HOTELS WHEN THEY COME TO MY CLUB. I GET PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER ON THE WEEKENDS THAT ARE GETTING HOTELS JUST TO COME TO THE CLUB, GETTING UBERS, SAYING THIS BECAUSE A CLUB IS SO -- - OUR SOCIAL MEDIA OF THE CLUB IS SO BIG. I MEAN, THOSE ARE JUST ISSUES THAT I HAVE. I MEAN, HE SAYS WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT ONCE THESE HOUSES ARE BUILT, I START GETTING TICKETS. WILL THEY HELP ME WITH THOSE TICKETS? OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE THAT HOUSES WILL BE VACANT AND THEN THEY KNOCK THOSE HOUSES DOWN, WHAT WILL HAPPEN FROM THERE? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT IS MY CONCERN AND THAT'S WHY OPPOSE
THIS ALSO. ANY QUESTIONS? >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: WILLIAM CLARK AGAIN. LISTENING TO EVERYBODY TALK, I HAVE BUILT HOUSES FOR 12 YEARS HERE IN ABILENE ALSO.
AND THERE IS A LOT THAT THE COMPANY CAN DO TO HELP WITH THE NOISE RESTRICTIONS. BUT I ALSO BOUGHT A FIRE HOUSE BUILT IN GRILL AND BUILD IT UP AND SOLD IT OFF. HAD IT NOT HAD A LIQUOR LICENSE ALREADY BEEN SO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL, THEY WOULD HAVE GOT NOTHING. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO TEQUILAS, FAN OF TEQUILAS ARE GOING TO MAKE HER LOT EITHER, BUT TALKING TO THE GUY THAT'S LEASING THE BUILDING AND HOW THEY ARE GOING TO CLEAN UP AND THEY DID WORK WITH ME, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE THERE FIRST THING SUNDAY MORNING AND CLEAN THE MESS UP IN THE PARKING LOT. AND MEAN, THEY DO WHAT IT TAKES TO KEEP THEIR AREA CLEAN. BUT THE NOISE COMPLAINT, THE COMPANY CAN DO ALL THEY WANT, BUT IF YOU GET AN UNHAPPY TENANT, THEY COME TO CALL EVERY NIGHT. AND HE IS EXACTLY RIGHT. OF SOMEBODY USED TO OWN A BAR AND GRILL, I MEAN, IF YOU GET THAT NOISE COMPLAINT, THE POLICE ARE GOING TO SHOW UP AND PUT ON THE BAR. THEY WILL NOT PUT IT ON THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY BUILT A HOME 40 FEET AWAY. YOU WILL PROBABLY NOT
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GIVE THEM A LIQUOR LICENSE IF THERE WAS A COMPLEX WERE THERE 40 FEET AWAY. AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT INTO CONCERN. SO THANK YOU ALL.>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: MA'AM, YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN UP TWICE. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. TIME FOR A DISCUSSION.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK FROM MY STANDPOINT, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS HERE: FIRST OFF, BACK IN 2008, I'M NOT SURE WHO THE GENTLEMAN WAS, MR. CRANE MAYBE MENTIONED, MULTIFAMILY WAS BY RIGHT IN GENERAL COMMERCIAL WHEN THIS THING WAS MADE GENERAL COMMERCIAL. SO IT'S ONLY RECENTLY THAT MOVE THAT OUT OF THERE. THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S NOT REALLY RELEVANT TO HERE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY ZONING GOES, THIS IS KIND OF THE IDEAL THING. YOUHAVE GENERAL COMMERCIAL, MULTIFAMILY, LESS DENSE AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, WHICH SOUTH FIRST IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. SO I UNDERSTAND THE PARKING, I UNDERSTAND THE STREET, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NOISE LEVEL.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THE MANAGER OF THE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH. SO THAT IS KIND OF, KIND OF MY TWO CENTS WORTH OF HAVING TO HEAR EVERYBODY ELSE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: I AGREE WITH YOU, AND I THINK THAT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT THE NEIGHBORS, BUT I ALSO THINK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOMELESS AND PROBLEMS ON THOSE LOTS CURRENTLY, I THINK A PROJECT LIKE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WILL PROBABLY HELP IN THAT AREA. AND HAVING SEEN SOME OF THESE AROUND TOWN, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A POSITIVE FOR THE AREA. MAYBE THE NOISE ISSUE, I GET. BUT THEN THERE MIGHT BE MORE BUSINESS THAT TEQUILAS FROM HAVING PEOPLE LIVING THERE. THEY MAY WANT TO COME ACROSS AND WANT TO LIVE THERE FOR THAT REASON. WHO KNOWS, HAVING THE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS WILL RISK THE MONEY TOTAKE A CHANCE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT . I GUESS THEY WILL HAVE TO DO THE HOMEWORK TO FIGURE OUT ALL OF
THOSE OTHER FACTORS. >> MALE SPEAKER: I AGREE .
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH. I THINK THE AFFORDABLE LIVING WAS KIND OF GIVING A BAD LOOK WITH THE NAME, HOW IT WAS PRESENTED.
BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME REALLY NICE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AREAS HERE IN ABILENE TO HELP BRING THOSE UP TO CODE AND LOOK THEM NICE AND KEEPING ABILENE NICE AND NEAT AND CLEAN. I THINK THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BRING PROBABLY A GOOD VALUE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, LIKE I SAID, THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE PEOPLE THERE. BUT JUST LIKE YOU SAID TOO,OO, ALL THE OTHER ISSUES ARE MORE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. IT'S NOT REALLY A ZONING ISSUE. I DON'T THINK.
>> MALE SPEAKER: ANYBODY ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
>> MALE SPEAKER: THE LAST COMMENT THAT MR. CLARK SAID PROBABLY GIVE ME THE MOST CAUTION, IS THE IDEA OF WHAT A LIQUOR LICENSE HAVE BEEN GRANTED TO THAT PROPERTY IF THERE WAS RESIDENTIAL 40 FEET AWAY? THAT BEING SAID, TO WHAT YOU SAID, CLINT, THAT WOULD BE THE NATURAL BUFFER, IF YOU WERE JUST LAYING THIS OUT, SINGLE-FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY TOWARDS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. AND SO, THAT IS THE BIGGEST CAUTION. BUT THESE HAVE BEEN EMPTY, SHALLOTS. UP UNTIL 2008, A HAPPENED 15 YEARS AGO, THERE WERE NOT EVEN HAVE BEHEAR ORDER ZONING CASE. SO, YOU KNOWSO I WILL VOTE TO APPROVE IT, CANCEL. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO TALK
ABOUT IT. >> MALE SPEAKER: I THINK WE ARE
READY FOR A MOTION. >> MALE SPEAKER: A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CITY OF RECOMMENDATION.
>> MALE SPEAKER: MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A SECOND?
> MALE SPEAKER: SECOND. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: SECOND.
>> MALE SPEAKER: MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND. >>
FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BARNETT? >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BENHAM? >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. NOONAN? >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MS. FLEMING? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BRAUNBAUM?
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MOTION
CARRIES. >> I WILL MAKE A STATEMENT HERE THAT WE, WE DO NOT APPROVE, THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE ONE THAT APPROVES THIS. SO THIS WILL GO BEFORE COUNCIL TWICE. THERE WILL BE A FIRST READING IN THE SECOND READING . THEN THE COUNCIL WILL VOTE ON WHETHER TO MAKE THIS CHANGE. AND THAT IS
COMING I THINK -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THE JULY 29 IS THE FIRST MEETING IN THE SECOND READING WITH THE PUBLIC
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HEARING IS AUGUST 12. >> MALE SPEAKER: SO AUGUST 12, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
AT THAT POINT, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BRING UP WHETHER TO MAKE THIS CHANGE OR NOT. SO THEY ARE THE ONES -- JUST BECAUSE WE SAID THIS, WE JUST RECOMMEND ON ZONING. SO WE JUST RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THAT IT BE APPROVED IS ALL WE DID TODAY.
CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE DECISION ON AUGUST 12.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES. >> MALE SPEAKER: ON AUGUST 12.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR COMING. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE NEXT FRONT, BUT IT WILL GET LENGTHY TOO LIKE THIS ONE WAS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE. -2021-19: RECEIVE A REPORT AND HOLD A DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST FROM PRAIRIE SONG REPRESENTED BY JACOB MARTIN TO CHANGE ZONING FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 144 TWO ACCOMMODATION OF RESIDENTIAL THE INTENSITY. YOU UP AGAIN, CHERYL.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: GREAT. CHERYL STERRY, PLANNING SERVICES MANAGER. THIS IS A REASON FOR IMPLANTABLE MEN 144.
IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, LAST YEAR AROUND THIS TIME, THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT THAT CAME BEFORE YOU. THEY WERE LOOKING AT DOING SOME MEDIUM DENSITY TYPE PROJECT. THAT WAS DENIED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND IT WAS ALSO DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL. PERLANE DEVELOPING CODE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS CAN COME BACK WITHIN THE YEARAND DECIDED TO TRY AGAIN OR OR REZONE OR IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT TODAY. THERE IS NO INTEREST IN DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY TO AN RS-6 PRODUCT ACROSS THE FRONTAGE OF GARFIELD IN THE IN A MEDIUM DENSITY PRODUCT TO THE NORTH OF THAT. WE DID SEND OUT A NOTIFICATION TO ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITH A 200 FOOT BUFFER. WE DID COME BACK WITH 19 IN OPPOSITION. HOWEVER, ONLY AROUND FIVE OF THOSE, AND YOU WILL SEE THE NOTIFICATION MAP IN A MINUTE, WERE ACTUALLY IN THE NOTIFICATION AREA. WE DID RECEIVE QUITE A BIT OF EMAIL AS WELL AS PHONE CALLS LS AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE WALKED IN.
I CAN GO OVER THOSE WHENEVER WE GET TO THAT POINT.
HERE'S THE AERIAL MAP OF THE LOCATION. AND OUR ZONING MAP, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVER TO THE EAST WHICH IS THE RV PARK THAT ABUTS THE INTERSTATE. AND THEN MULTIFAMILY ALSO TO THE EAST AS WELL. THEN TO THE SOUTH IS A MIXTURE OF OUR SIX AND RS LETTER EIGHT. HERE THE PERMITTED USES WITH AN RS-6 ZONING. AND PERMITTED USES IN MD ZONING. AND BY PULLING THIS OUT OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHAT YOU DO IS IT IS SUBJECT TO EVERYTHING THAT IS WITHIN THOSE TWO ZONES INCLUDING LOT WITH AND HOW HOW YOU CAN BUILD SOMETHING, THINGS LIKE THAT. INSTEAD OF IT BEING SPECIFICALLY PLAYED OUT IN A PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PD GRAPHIC THAT WAS, THAT WAS DONE IN 4. THIS PROPERTY HAS COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL SEVERAL TIMES. AND THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE. AS YOU CAN SEE, RS-6 IS ALREADY PLANNED ALONG THAT GARFIELD LINE. THEY MOVED A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH BECAUSE THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT WATER LINE THAT CROSSES ACROSS THE FRONTAGE.
AND THE APPLICANTS, THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN WITH THAT WATER LINE IN THE EVENT THAT THEY MOVE IT, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE RS-6 PIECE OF THE ZONING DOES KIND OF CROSS INTO THIS CROSSHATCH, I'M SORRY, RIGHT HERE ON THE BOTTOM. SO THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT WATER LINE THAT CROSSES THE AREA.
TO THE NORTH OF THAT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT WILL BE MEDIUM DENSITY AT ABOUT 12 UNITS PER ACRE, AS YOU HEARD BRAD SPEAK EARLIER. .
SO THIS IS THE SIDE EXHIBIT THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. RS-6 ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF GARFIELD, APPROXIMATELY EIGHT TO 10 HOMESITES CAN BE BUILT THERE WITH RS-6 ZONING STANDARDS. THIS IS THE SUBJECT VIEWS OF THE PROPERTY. HERE IS THE OPPOSITION MAP.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE FIVE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.
THEN THERE ARE 14 OUTSIDE OF IT THE NOTIFICATION AREA. WE DID RECEIVE QUITE A BIT OF EMAIL AS WELL AS PEOPLE WHO DID WALK IN
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AND HAVE OPPOSITION TO THIS. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF WHAT WAS SAID IN THE EMAILS AND THEN ALSO TO ME PERSONALLY AND CONVERSATION WITH THE RESIDENTS WAS THAT THEY DID NOT WANT MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH AND THEY DID NOT WANT THE STREET CAMPUS COURT, AS YOU CAN SEE, ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE, CAMPUS COURT TO SHOOT ALL THE WAY TO I 20. THAT WAS THEIR NUMBER ONE MAIN CHIEF CONCERN IS WE DO NOT WANT THE TRAFFIC FROM I 20 COMING DOWN WHAT WAS FORMALLY CAMPUS COURT TO THE NORTH AND COMING DOWN INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.STAFF DID REVIEW THIS PURSUANT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND A PART OF THE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP AND A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I'D SUBJECT'S LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT PROPERTY NEXT TO GARFIEL. AS DEPICTED I THE ZONING EXHIBIT PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, THE AREA ALONG GARFIELD IS THAT SINGLE-FAMILY AREA. IN THE NORTHERN SECTION, THE EXHIBIT SHOWS THE PROPOSED MEDIUM DENSITY AREA, AND IT'S CONSIDERED APPROPRIATE PROPER FROM THE RV PARK, THE MULTIFAMILY AREA, AND THEN ALSO INTERSTATE 20. THERE'S A GENERAL COMMERCIAL AREA RIGHT ABOVE THAT. SO, AGAIN, BUFFERING FROM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT AREA. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
TIME. >> MALE SPEAKER: WILL YOU GO BACK TO THE BLACK-AND-WHITE WITH THE PEE ON IT?
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES. >> MALE SPEAKER: SO THE COUNCIL, DID WE HAVE ABANDONED ED THAT LOWER RIGHT, THE HIGHLIGHTED SECTION OF CAMPUS COURT. THAT HAS BEEN ABANDONED, RIGHT? > FEMALE SPEAKER: SO THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION OF CAMPUS COURT WHERE THERE IS NOT ABANDONED. THAT'S THE PERSON AT CITY COUNCIL KEPT BECAUSE THERE IS SIGNIFICANT WATER MAINS AND OTHER UTILITIES THAT KIND OF ZIGZAG IN THAT AREA. THERE WAS AN EXHIBIT. I'M SORRY, THERE WAS A CITY COUNCIL VOTE IN THE ORDINANCE WAS 552014. THEY ABANDONED A PORTION OF CAMPUS COURT, WHICH IS 450 FEET FROM I 20 DOWN.
THEN ANOTHER 300 FEET NORTH FROM GARFIELD. THEY HAVE ABANDONED THAT SECTION IS APPROXIMATELY 300 FEET OF RIGHT-OF-WAY RIGHT THERE AT CAMPUS COURT THAT THEY HAVE ABANDONED THAT SECTION. AND SO, THEY MAINTAIN THE DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS IN THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY, THOUGH.
>> MALE SPEAKER: WE DON'T HAVE A GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS --
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: NO,I'M SORRY I DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE PACKET. YOU CAN PASS THIS AROUND IF YOU LIKE TO SEE THE
300 FOOT SECTION. >> MALE SPEAKER: AND THIS, THIS PROPOSAL DOES AWAY WITH THE PD. HE GOES STRAIGHT TO RS-6, NO
PLATS. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES, SIR.
AND THE PROPONENTS FOR THE ACTION -- APPLICANTS ARE HERE.
AND THEY CAN SPEAK MORE TO WHAT WOULD DEVELOP IN THE AREA AND ANY TYPES OF CONVERSATIONSTHAT THEY'VE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN. THE NEIGHBOR HAS HAD FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND I KNOW THAT THEY DEVELOPER, IN THE EVENT THAT THIS IS REZONED AND THE DEVELOPER DOES PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'M SURE THAT
THEY CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT. >> MALE SPEAKER: SO BASED ON THIS EXAMPLE IF WE REZONED THAT MD, WHAT IS TO PREVENT THE MD FROM SHORT-CIRCUITING AND GOING DOWN TO CAMPUS COURT? SINCE IT
IS SET BACK THAT FAR? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD KEEP THEM FROM CONNECTING THE MEDIUM DENSITY TO THE RS-6 WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF PLATTED RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM
THE MD TO THE RS 6. >> MALE SPEAKER: WELL IT'S GOING DENSITY RIGHT-OF-WAY, BASED ON THAT AND YOU CAN GET INTO THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY AND GET BACK TO CAMPUS COURT FROM
THE -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE UP TO WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PLAT NEXT DOOR THERE COULD BE A CITY COUNCIL ACTION TO ABANDON THE SECTION THAT MAY BE INVOLVED IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
>> MALE SPEAKER: IS YOUR CONCERN, CLIENT, THAT SOMEONE WILL COME INTO THE MEDIUM DENSITY, GO THROUGH THE ROADS THERE AND END UP ON CAMPUS COURT?
>> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY THOUGHT WE ABANDONED THAT PART OF CAMPUS COURT. I DO NOT REALIZE -- IS MY FAULT FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING COMPLETELY. I THOUGHT WE --
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YOU THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION OF CAMPUS COURT, IN MY NEXT QUESTION WAS POSSIBLY OF CLAYTON, WHY DON'T WE JUST TAKE THE INTO RS-6 AND THEN WE KNOW WE ARE CLOSED. BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. AND BY THE WAY THAT THAT PORTION IS ABANDONED, IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME, EVEN IF WE REZONED THE MD, THEY CAN STILL COME OUT OF THE MD AND GETS HER SHORT CIRCUIT BACK TO CAMPCOURT IN. GARFIELD. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: SHORT OF PLOTTING A PLAN OF LOT AND PUTTING FENCE INSTRUCTOR OR SOMETHING AROUND THAT, THE LOTS, IT WOULD NEED TO BE ALSO ANOTHER ACTION BY COUNCIL OR DIRECTION BY THE CITY TO ABANDON THE REST OF THAT AND ALLOW A REPLY TO HAPPEN. THERE IS QUITE A BIT THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THAT. BUT I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER IS WILLING TO SPEAK TO NOT CONNECTING THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS AS IT WAS STATED IN THE APPLICATION.
>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CHERYL? THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE ALL SEEN EVERYBODY
BEFORE. OKAY? [LAUGHTER] >> MALE SPEAKER: I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S CONCERN. SO I WILL QUICKLY AND ON THE SPOT.
CLAYTON, COME ON UP HERE AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS A BIT SO THEY CAN HEAR WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>> MALE SPEAKER: CLELIN FERRELL, ENGINEER FOR THE DEVELOPER. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE DEVELOPER IS DIFFERENT FROM THE APPLICANT. THE APPLICANT IS PRAIRIE SONG LLC BECAUSE THEY DO ON THE PROPERTY. THEY HAVE BEEN UP HERE SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST DECADE, PROBABLY, AND I'M SURE YOU ALL AWARE OF WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THERE'S A CURRENT CONTRACT IN PLACE FOR THAT SALE OF THAT LAND. IT WILL GO TO HELP ALL CONSTRUCTION. WE REPRESENT CALVIN HALL ULTIMATELY. WHAT HE WANTS TO DO HERE IS WHAT IS SHOWN IN BLUE AND YELLOW. HE WAS TO FINISH OUT THE RS-6 ALONG GARFIELD AND SEAL OFF CAMPUS COURT ENTIRELY. IN FACT, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT MAP THAT YOU WERE JUST PASSING AROUND. I DID NOT REALIZE CAMPUS COURT WENT BACK TO THE FENCE LINE. IS INTENT IN MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WE MET WITH NEIGHBORS LAST WEEK A HANDFUL OF THEM, HIS INTENT, HE VERBALLY COMMITTED AND SAID IN WRITING THAT HE HAS NO INTENTION TO HAVE ANY VEHICULAR CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS. HE FULLY EXPECTS THE MD TO GET OUT TO I 20, WHAT IS SHOWN IS MD.
ALONG THE FRONTAGE, IT WILL BE TYPICAL RS-6 TYPE HOUSING THAT WOULD MIRROR WHAT IS ACROSS THE STREET. CHERYL MENTIONED EIGHT TO 10 LOTS AND THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE. IT WOULD REQUIRE WILL REFLECT WHICH WOULD REQUEST THE CITY ABANDONABANDON THEIR PORTION OF CAMPUS COURT BECAUSE IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE FENCE LINE. IT BE ABSORBED INTO THOSE RS-6 LOTS. WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME SUBSTANTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE RELOCATION REQUIREMENTS IN THAT AREA. KYLE IS AWARE OF THAT IS WILLING TO WORK ON IN ORDER TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER AND REALLY FILL OUT A DEVELOPMENT THAT I THINK THAT'S WITH WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY WANT.
THE MD, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A LOT OF PIECES THAT CAN BE DONE TO MD RESIDENTIAL WISE. HE IS COMMITTED AT LEAST IN THE APPLICATION. AGAIN, AND SOME SORT OF COMMITMENT LETTER, HOWEVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD FEEL BEST, TO ONLY DO SINGLE-STORY RESIDENTIAL OUT THERE. HE'S GOING TO BE LIMITED BASED ON ONE EGRESS AND EGRESSS. IS NOT LIKE YOU GET YOUR FULL 12 UNITS PER EQUAL IN DENSITY ANYWAY. THE CITY HAS A REQUIREMENT FOR ONE WAY IN AND OUT. YOU CAN ONLY HAVE 99 UNITS OR LESS. SO HE'S GOING TO BE LIMITED ON WHAT HE CAN BUILD BACK THERE, BUT HE DOES NOT NOBODY WANTS TO BUILD AT THIS POINT WHICH THE REQUEST FOR MD.
OTHERWISE, HE WAS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND MAKE A DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS HIS NAME ON IT THAT HE'S PROUD OF. D OF. AND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BE PROUD OF AS WELL. IF THERE'S A WAY YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD TODAY THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, BUT IF THERE IS NOT, WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO HAVE ANOTHER
CONVERSATION. >> MALE SPEAKER: SO YOU THINK YOUR INTENT IS TO ASK THE CITY TO ABANDON THAT SECTION OF
CAMPUS COURT -- >> MALE SPEAKER: CORRECT, SIR.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF UTILITIES ON
THAT LAND. >> MALE SPEAKER: YES SIR.
>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY. TO ME, THAT IS THE ULTIMATE THING.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO FIGHT FOR ALL ALONG, I THINK.
>> MALE SPEAKER: RIGHT. >> MALE SPEAKER: ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS? >> MALE SPEAKER: THIS IS BASICALLY RETURNING GARFIELD TO WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE,
SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES, CORRECT? >> MALE SPEAKER: THERE WOULD BE NO CONNECTIVITY. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A FENCE ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN YELLOW AND BLUE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU, CLAYTON. THANK YOU.
SO WHAT ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND VISIT? WE HAVE
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HEARD WHAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT.>> FEMALE SPEAKER: HELLO. MY NAME IS CARMEN PRICE. I LIVE ON GARFIELD. SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ MY STATEMENT: THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST HAS BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE PAST EIGHT YEARS. IN EACH OF THE PROVISIONS,CASES, THERE HAVE BEEN STRONG OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD REGARDING TWO ASPECTS OF THE PROPOSED USE: THE FIRST WAS MULTIFAMILY AT THE BACK OF THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD D WITH NARROW TWISTING ROADS. THE OTHER WAS A PROPOSED CONNECTION FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO I 20. SO WE HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED ALL OF THAT.
BOTH PNC AND CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZE THE NEGATIVE IMPACT IT WOULD BE. SO IN 2013, THE VERY FIRST INITIAL REQUEST WAS DENIED. AND SO IN 2014 IS WHAT YOU SEE HERE, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. SO I HAVE MET WITH THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPER AND THE ENGINEER FIRM TO DISCUSS THE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY. I THINK WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS A BEST CASE SCENARIO FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS LONG AS WE CAN KEEP THE RESTRICTION. SO WE WENT TO KEEP IN PLACE THAT PREVENTS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM TOUCHING I 20.
SO DURING OUR CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER DID AGREE TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. AND I WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THE NEW UNDERLYING REZONING AMENDED, THAT NEW PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN SHOULD BE SUBMITTED. PARAGRAPH I'M GOING TO ASK THAT Y'ALL TABLE THIS ITEM TO ALLOW THAT AND I'M GOING TO ASK THAT FOR THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO BE ON RFIELD SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WITH SENSE -- IN WRITING, HAVE IT IN WRITING, BEING AMENDING THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO BE JUST ON GARFIELD HAVE THE FENCE GOING ACROSS TO THE PROPERTY LINE. AND THE DEVELOPER GETS TO DEVELOPMENT AND THERE IS NO CONNECTIVITY. SO I HAVE MET WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS AND SOME OF THE MARKET TODAY. AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE TALKING AS WELL.
WE SUPPORT THIS IF WE CAN KEEP THE RESTRICTIONS. SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD OD AND ITS POSITIVE. WE HAVE HAD, HAVE HAD VERY POSITIVE INTERACTION WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THIS ROUTE. AND SO, I AM PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE -- TO KNOW KYLE POLLOCK CONSTRUCTION. SO WE JUST ASK THAT WE TAKE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT IS ALL. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY.
>> MALE SPEAKER: WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT ALL, HAVEN'T WE?
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES, WE HAVE. BUT ONCE AGAIN, I'M ASKING THE ITEM BE TABLED AND REQUESTING THAT THE PD GO FOR GARFIELD ONLY IN WITH THE FENCE GOING ACROSS AND THAT PROTECTS US. > MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. CHERYL, BETWEEN MD AND RS-6, IS THERE A BUFFER REQUIREMENT?
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THERE WAS NOT A BUFFER REQUIREMENT.
>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I AM TAMMIE WALKER. I LIVE AT 2665 GARFIELD, WHICH IS JUST RIGHT ACROSS. I AGREE WITH CARMEN. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS AS LONG AS WE JUST HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS ON GARFIELD AND OUR CAMPUS COURT IS CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY. JUST HAVE OUR SELF ENCLOSED NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT IT CAN SAY PRETTY MUCH LIKE IT IS. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO MORE SINGLE HOUSE, HOUSES, SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET. BUT WE DON'T WANT TRAFFIC ON THE HIGHWAY COMING ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M SURE Y'ALL CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO IT SOUNDS GOOD AS LONG AS WE CAN BE GUARANTEED THAT IN WRITING OR IN SOME MANNER, THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE DONE THAT WAY. I THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THANK YO. >> MALE SPEAKER: MY NAME IS ZACH AND I LIVE AT 26 SIX MADISON AND HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 1988 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW YEARS AWAY AT SCHOOL. I WOULD ECHO THE SENTIMENT OF WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE -- I CANNOT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE BUILDUP, CLOSE, AND THIS ISSUE DONE WITH.
THE CLOSING OFF OF CAMPUS COURT THROUGH TO THE INTERSTATE
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A BIG ONE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF DEALING WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN PREVIOUS YEARS, TO ECHO CARMEN'S DESIRE TO HAVE THIS TABLE AND HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING, BECAUSE OF SIN A LOT OF THINGS FROM THE DEVELOPER IN WRITING THAT DID NOT HOLD ANY WATER. AND SO, I WOULD LOVE TO CITY FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT THAT ISSUE BE PUT TO BED. BUT IN SUPPORT OF GETTING THAT FINISHED OUT, THAT WOULD BE NICE. THANK YOU.>> MALE SPEAKER: SO ANYBODY ELSE?
>> MALE SPEAKER: MY NAME IS CHRIS FOR LUNCH AND I OWN A HOUSE ON CAMPUS COURT. I TOO AGREE WITH CARMEN'S REQUEST TO TABLE THIS PROPOSAL UNTIL WE BASICALLY HAVE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN, KNOW FOR SURE THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY KIND OF CONNECTION. AND ALSO, JUST FROM MY OWN PERSONAL STAND POINT, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENCY FROM STAFF IN THE UTURE E. WHAT WAS ACTUALLY POSTED TO THE CITY WEBSITE DID NOT MAKE ANY MENTION OF THE MEDIUM DENSITY OR THE POTENTIALLY REMOVAL OF THE LANGUAGE FOR THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. I TOOK A SCREEN CAPTURE OF THAT. I WAS VERY SURPRISED WHENEVER I SAW THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE OF THE PROPOSAL PROVIDED ALL OF THE DETAIL THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NECESSARY TO IN A GOOD FAITH PRESENT WITH THE PROPOSAL WAS GOING TO BE AND WAS FAR LESS CHARACTERS.
THAT'S MY ONLY OTHER STATEMENT. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU,
CHRIS. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I AM ROBIN BURRELL. I HAVE LIVED ON GARFIELD, 2516 GARFIELD SINCE 1972, I BELIEVE. I AM VERY FOND OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST A BRIEF HISTORY: WHEN THE HILLCREST WAS PLACID, IT HAD FIVE STREETS GOING IN: BRAINTREE, CAMPUS COURT, GARFIELD, MADISON, AND A ROUGH ROAD, LINCOLN. SINCE THAT TIME, THE TO MADISON WAS CONTAINED AND THEN IN RECENT S A LOVELY DEVELOPMENT OF F LINCOLN WAS ADDED TO ONE OF PRAIRIE SONG ON THE EAST SIDE, SO THE EAST AND WEST HAVE ADDED IMMENSELY TO THE PROPERTY VALUE OF THAT SUBDIVISION. AND AS YOU GO THROUGH IT, YOU WILL SEE MOST OF THE HOUSES. I WOULD SAY 90 PERCENT, AT LEAST -- ARE WELL-KEPT, PHYSICALLY BUILDING THE BUILDINGS, AND THE ARTS ARE LANDSCAPED. MODE OF COURSE. NOW WE HAVE TO DO WITH RAIN, BUT THAT'S GOOD. . BUT IT'S A VERY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN WITH THE RENTALS THAT WE HAVE SEEN DEVELOP A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE LAST FIVE OR SIX X YEARS. BUTBUT YOU GO INTO THE SUBDIVISION FROM AMBLER ANDY GO OUT FROM THE SUBDIVISION INTO AMBLER, THERE IS NO THROUGH STREET ANYWHERE AND THAT. AND ALWAYS SEE IS THE CARS GOING HOME, SERVICE TRUCKS. WE HAVE AMBULANCES AND FIRE TRUCKS.
UPS, FEDEX, WHATEVER, COME IN AND GO OUT. I'VE NEVER HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT. YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE WALKING THE STREETS WITH THEIR FAMILIES. YOU SEE RUNNERS GOING UP AND DOWN. TRACKING THE STREETS. OUR STREETS ARE WELL-KEPT. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE EVER HAD ANY RESURFACING BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS LIGHT HT. THERE IS SOME ON THE SIDE, BUT IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TO COMPLAIN ABOUT. SO IF I LOOK AT THIS PLOT, OKAY, THERE'S A YELLOW PART OF THAT THAT FACES GARFIELD HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. AND EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE, EVERYBODY WOULD SAY, WHY DOESN'T SOMEBODY BUILD A HOUSE ON THAT? WELL, IT WAS OWNED BY AISD FOR YEARS AND IT'S JUST NOW COME INTO THE PROPERTY OVER THE LAST FIVE, SIX YEARS, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT HAD THAT DIAGONAL
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WATER LINE. THE BLUE PART IS WHAT BOTHERS ME. THAT LOOKS BIGGER THAN 12 ACRES, BUT MAYBE NOT OT. THE WHOLE THING THERE BOTHERS ME. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON THAT, WHETHER WE NEED MORE MULTIPLE HOUSING THERE.BECAUSE ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE IS ANOTHER TWO STORIES, 93 HOUSING. THEN YOU JUST COME ON COME ON IN ON OUR ACU AND HS YOU WILL SEE MORE HOUSING, MULTIPLE.
BUT THAT IF THAT IS DEVELOPED, THAT IS -- IF IT IS, IT GOES AHEAD, IF YOU WILL LOOK AT THE TRAILER PARK, IT HAS A DRIVEWAY THE SERVICE YARD, SERVICE. THERE. AND IT IS NOT MUCH SMALLER THAN THAT SUSTAIN PLACE THERE IN THE BLUE, WHICH COULD HAVE A NICE LITTLE DRIVEWAY INTO THE SERVICE ROAD, WHICH WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE MULTIPLE HOUSING. BY THE WAY, IF THAT IS MULTIPLE HOUSING, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE RESIDENTS THAT STAY THERE STAY YEARS, 40 YEARS LIKE I HAVE. YOU KNOW? SO LET THEM GO OUT ON THE SERVICE ROAD, JUST LIKE THE TRAILER PARK PEOPLE HAVE TO. AND ON THE EAST SIDE, WHAT YOU DON'T SHOW IS THAT MULTIPLE APARTMENT BUILDINGS THERE, AND I HAVE FORGOTTEN THE NAME OF IT, THEY HAVE A NICE LITTLE DRIVEWAY.
IT GOES ON TO THE SERVICE. I BELIEVE IT GOES OVER TO JUDGE HEALY. SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, GARFIELD AND CAMPUS COURT, WHICHEVER WAY YOU ARE GOING TO EXTEND THAT, DOES NOT NEED TO BE GONE -- CLEAR OUT TO THE SERVICE ROAD, WHICH WILL BRING TWO WAY TRAFFIC INTO THE SUBDIVISION. AND IT WON'T BE LONG THAT SOME SMART PEOPLE WILL SAY, HEY, WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT AND THE STOPLIGHT AT JUDGE HEALY AND AMBLER, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A NICE LITTLE ROUND TURN THERE THAT YOU CAN GO AND TAKE YOU RIGHT INTO ONE OF THOSE STREETS.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, AND THAT IS ALL, JUDGE HEALY WAS BUILT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, MANY YEARS AGO NOW, TO BRING THAT ACCESS FROM THIS NOT CROWDED, BUT THIS AREA, LET'S CALL IT THE HILL, TO CARRY THAT TRAFFIC CLEAR TO THE INTERSTATE. AND A WIDE STREET. IT IS BEAUTIFUL. IS KEPT UP.
WE ARE NOW GETTING SOME VERY GOOD BUSINESSES ON THE EAST SIDE AND SOME TO THE WEST, WHICH WE HAVE ALWAYS WANTED.
BUT I HAVE NEVER, NEVER SEEN JUDGE HEALY CROWDED WITH TRAFFIC. THERE IS NO TRAFFIC JAM ON JUDGE HEALY. AND EVEN IF THE APARTMENT PEOPLE HAVE TO DRIVE UP A LITTLE WAYS AND A FEW ACRES OVER TO JUDGE HEALY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A TROUBLE.
SO THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, IT'S JUST DRIVEWAYS FROM THE YELLOW ZONES DOWN INTO GARFIELD AND THEN THAT IS CAMPUS COURT, JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE OPPOSITE FROM THAT. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION. I'M NOT ARGUING
THAT -- >> MALE SPEAKER: MA'AM, MA'AM
-- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I DON'T WANT
A THROUGHWAY. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO OFFER? WE UNDERSTAND WE WANT THE TRAFFIC TO GO TO THE NORTH AND WE UNDERSTAND WE WANT THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE GARFIELD AND WE UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD, SIR?
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES, CHAIRMAN ROSANBALM, JUDGE WHITE, 1681 NEWCASTLE DRIVE. THAT IS OUTSIDE THE HILLCREST AREA, BUT FOR 21 YEARS, I LIVED IN MY FAMILY LIVED IN THE HILLCREST AREA. IN THE PAST I HAVE SPOKEN AGAINST ANY ZONE CHANGE.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SAY THAT A CITIZEN OF ABILENE, SUPPORT THIS. MY CONCERN IS THE CURRENT TREND EIGHT, ANY CHANGES TO THE PD AND HOW IT AFFECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD STILL HAS A PROTECTIONS AFTER THIS IS RESOLVED, THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE. BUT I'M IN FAVOR OFTHIS RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: WE WILL BE SURE TO ASK THAT QUESTION TO
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CHERYL HERE. . >> MALE SPEAKER: THIS WILL BE SHORT. I AM MARCUS ANDERSON. MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED ON THE FAR NORTH PART OF MADISON SINCE 1987. AND WE HAVE SEEN THE YEARS A VERY STABLE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING NEIGHBORHOOD, HILLCREST NEIGHBORHOOD TURN MORE AND MORE INTO A PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE MANY, MANY HOMES BEING PURCHASED AND RENTED OUT TO COLLEGE STUDENTS. IT'S HAPPENING MORE AND MORE IN OUR SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THERE IS MORE TRAFFIC MORE ACTIVITY THAN EVER BEFORE.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH HAS BEEN GREAT FOR BICYCLING AND JOGGING KIDS AND EVERYTHING HAS MORE TRAFFIC NOW. SO I WILL JUST REEMPHASIZE, WE ARE NOT NOT IN FAVOR -- WE DON'T OPPOSE THE MB DESIGNATION FOR THAT PLOT, BUT WE REALLY WANT THE TRAFFIC TO BE GOING NORTH ONTO THE ACCESS ROAD. THANK YOU.
>> MALE SPEAKER: PEERS CARPENTER. ELEPHO 2636 MADISON. I THINK I AGREE WITH EVERYONE ELSE, BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS JUST THE ENFORCEABILITY OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. HE TALKED MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT HE COULD PUT SOMETHING NG IN WRITING AND ALL OF THESE THINGS ABOUT --
>> MALE SPEAKER: YOU. I'M FIXING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
I'M ALL OVER THAT -- >> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH, BECAUSE EVEN THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS TALKING ABOUT, IT'S DEEP RESTRICTED STILL FOR JUST A SCHOOL. BUT TO CHALLENGE THAT, YOU HAVE TO TAKE -- IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN
ENFORCE -- >> MALE SPEAKER: ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I READ HERE THIS AFTERNOON IS THAT WE ARE THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON PLATS. AND SO, WHEN CLAYTON BRINGS A PLOT TO US THAT WE DON'T LIKE, WE CAN REJECT IT. OKAY? SO MAYBE I WILL BE ON THE COMMISSION HERE LONG ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE WE GET A PROPER PLANT IN HERE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. OTIS WRIGHT, 2524 GARFIELD.
YOU HAVE HEARD EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE SAID. ENFORCEABILITY IS A THING BUT I'M ABOUT TO TABLE THIS THING UNTIL CITY COUNCIL CAN GUARANTEE ME, GUARANTEE ME THAT THAT ACCESS CANNOT BE OVERRIDDEN. OKAY? THAT IS IT.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: CHERYL, WHEN WE APPROVE THIS TODAY, IF WE APPROVE THIS TODAY, SHOULD SAY, AND IT GOES BEFORE COUNCIL, IS THERE A TIME LIMIT ON WHEN THEY HAVE TO BRING BACK A FLAT OR ANYTHING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS?
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THERE WAS NOT TIME LIMIT IN WHICH -- UNLESS, ON THE CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO IMPOSE A TIME LIMIT TO ITS. HOWEVER, THERE IS NOT A TIME LIMIT AND THEY CANNOT RECEIVE ANY BUILDING PERMITS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT UNTIL THE LAND IS PLATTED. SO BOTH OF THE PIECES THAT YOU SEE THERE, NOT PLATTED PIECES OF PROPERTY, THE ONLY PIECE THAT IS ACTUALLY PLATTED IS THE SECTION WHERE YOU SEE THERE IS A LITTLE LINE THERE, AND THAT SECTION IS THE ONLY ONE WITH AN ADDRESS, WHICH IS WHY IT WAS REFERENCED IN THE NOTICE AS WELL.
SO UNTIL THERE IS A PLAQUE, UNTIL THERE IS SOMETHING THAT COMES BEFORE YOU, EITHER A PRELIMINARY PLAT LAYING THINGS OUT OR A FINAL, EN NOTHING CAN REALLY HAPPEN UNTIL THAT
HAPPENS. >> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY. CLINT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REQUEST WITHOUT SAYING YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLAT IN PLACE, BUT JUST HAVE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL LIKE WE HAVE DONE IN FORCING THE ONLY WAY FOR THE MEDIUM DENSITY TO MOVE FORWARD WOULD BE WITHOUT ACCESS DOWN ON CAMPUS COURT INTO JUST THAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN MOTION NOW, BECAUSE I'M GUESSING THE DEVELOPER WILL NOT WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY TO DO ALL OF THAT IF YOU DON'T GET THAT. BUT IF WE COULD JUST SAY, HEY, HERE ARE THE GENERAL GUIDELINE RULES, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A
PATH FORWARD. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I MAY HAVE PTO DEFER TO KELLY. IT'S MY INCLINATION TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE YOU THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO EITHER VOTE OR TABLE AND SEND STAFF BACK, OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, EITHER VOTE IN DENIAL OR APPROVAL OR SEND STAFF BACK.
BUT, KELLY -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES. I MEAN, THE ONLY WAY TO ADD A CONDITION WOULD BE IF IT'S A PD. SO STRAIGHT ZONING WOULD NOT HAVE THAT CONDITION. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF WITH PLATTING.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: ADDITIONALLY, THE PD CAN SPEAK FOR THE PROPERTY THAT IT IS OWNED BY, CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE
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CITY'S PROPERTY. THE PREVIOUS PD DID MENTION THAT WOULD BE NO ENTRANCE OR EXIT TO THE WEST ST, WHICH THEY DID NOT COMPLETELY SAY THAT THAT WAS CAMPUS COURT, BUT THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING. THEN YOU STILL HAVE THE ABANDONMENT, THE 300 FOR THE ABANDONMENT SECTION AS WELL IN THE MIDDLE.>> MALE SPEAKER: SO WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION. WE STILL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. WITH ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK WITH THE CASE? I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DISCUSSION. I THINK MS. PRICE WAS GOING
TO. MS. PRICE, ARE YOU -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I WAS GOING
TO SPEAK TO THE PD. >> MALE SPEAKER: COME ON UP ONE MORE TIME AND I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: CURRENTLY. THE PD IS FOR LOCAL TRACK OF LAND, GARFIELD IN THE NORTH. SO ABOUT 14 ACRES. AND WHAT I WAS REQUESTING IS THAT Y'ALL TABLE IT SO THAT PROPONENT COULD AMEND HIS APPLICATION TO DO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE GARFIELD PROPERTY WITH A BARRIER, LIKE THE FENCE OR BUSHES OR, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF BARRIER, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE NO PD ON THE 12 ACRES TO THE NORTH. SO THAT IS WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR. AND I AM HOPING THAT THAT CAN BE -- SO IN TABLING IT, LET THEM TABLE IT, LET THEM DO WHAT THEY NEED TO TO RESUBMIT, THEN IT COMES BACK TO Y'ALL IN AUGUST. SO IT'S NOT REALLY DELAYING HIM A YEAR, BUT JUST A MONTH UNTIL HE CAN GET THIS STUFF TOGETHER.
DOES THAT HELP YOU? WHERE I AM COMING FROM --
>> MALE SPEAKER: I AM TRYING TO GET THERE TOO, BECAUSE THERE IS
-- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I KNOW THE
LEGALESE -- >> MALE SPEAKER: IN MY MIND, ONE OF THE ISSUES HERE IS WHAT CLAYTON BROUGHT UP EARLIER, IS THAT THEY WOULD ASK TO ABANDON CAMPUS COURT AND THEN TAKEN INTO THERE PLAT. AND THAT IS, TO ME, A LITTLE BIT OUT OF
SYNC. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: SO WE ARE ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE ALREADY TELLING US THEY
WILL PROVIDE. IS THAT -- >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: IS THAT IN WRITING? [LAUGHTER]
>> MALE SPEAKER: OTIS, I APOLOGIZE AND I GOT YOUR FIRST NAME BUT NOT -- OTIS, LIKE MR. WRIGHT SAID, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOT A GUARANTEED WRITTEN INVITING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET TAKEN TO THE COURTHOUSE IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW
THAT. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: I'M HOPING -- Y'ALL ARE ALL NEW FISH THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY BEEN HERE FOR THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS. YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT. WE HAVE FOUGHT FOR THAT PROTECTION. AND WE FEEL LIKE HAVING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND HAVING IN WRITING PROTECTS US BECAUSE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT HAS THE ORDINANCE THAT THERE IS NO CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN WHISTLE STOP OR I 20. OR EVEN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE GOING IN. AND SO, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR. SO THANK
YOU. >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MY CONCERN IS EXACTLY WHAT MS. PRICE'S CONCERN IS, WHICH IS ULTIMATELY A WAY OF GETTING BACK DOWN TO GARFIELD FROM THE MD. AND THAT IS STRICTLY, IN MY MIND, SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMITTEE -- I HAVE NEVER SAID -- WE NEED TO LOOK AT A PLAT AND REVIEW PLAQUES. THIS IS THE CASE OF THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SO MUCH HISTORY WITH THIS CASE. JUST NOT ALLOW THAT IN THE PLATTING PROCESS, AND THE STAFF WILL NOT LET THEM GET THAT FAR WITH THIS. BUT IF IT EVER DID, THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THAT PLAT AND ALLOW THE PLAT HERE. HE OTHER THING IS FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN ON THIS FOREVER, AND I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2014 WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED COMING, THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST, THE BEST THING WE HAVE HAD COME FORWARD ON THIS. IT MEETS WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT, IS IT MEETS APPROPRIATE ZONING, LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH THE MULTIFAMILY COMING BACK FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY, BUT THEY ALWAYS WANTED TO PUT MEDIUM DENSITY AND MULTIFAMILY IN THE BACK OF THE SUBDIVISION AND NOT BRING IT TO THE FRONT. THIS IS COMING OFF THE SERVICE ROAD AND COMING TO THE FRONT. SO IT MAKES SENSE IN THAT REGARD TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT THESE LOCKS OUT ON GARFIELD THE WAY
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THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. I APPRECIATE CLAYTON SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKEN THAT PIECE OF CAMPUS COURT. THAT SOLVES ALL THE PROBLEM. IF THEY CAN ABANDONTHESE AND TAKE IT TO THE RS-6. >> MALE SPEAKER: IT STOPS ON ARE RIGHT BACK TO WHAT EVERYBODY WANTED TO START WITH, WHICH IS NOT CAMPUS COURT RUNNING ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND SOMETHING THAT MADE SENSE FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, AND IT DOES THAT. THE THING THAT I AM BALANCING WHAT MR. WRIGHT SAID AGAINST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A VERY REASONABLE PROPOSAL HERE. AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO TRUST THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROPOSING TO TAKE THE RIGHT THING. I THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE STEP FOR THAT. I AM WILLING TO -- I'M SORRY I AM DOING ALL THE TALKING, BUT LAST YEAR WHEN THIS WAS BEFORE US, THE MAIN CONCERN WAS IT WAS A MULTIFAMILY SUBDIVISION. IT WAS STRAIGHT OUT ON THE GARFIELD.[INAUDIBLE] AND WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED WHY CAN'T 30 NOT CONNECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WHY CAN'T THAT TURN AROUND AND GO TOWARDS I 20 SO THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD GETS TO SAY? AND THIS IS RESOLVING WHAT LAST YEAR, EVEN AS A SPLIT COMMISSION, WE SAID NO TO. THE COUNCIL SAID NO TO.
SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THIS AND I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF TRUSTING EITHER THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE PLATTING PROCESS DOES NOT SAY WHAT THEY HAVE STOOD UP HERE AND SAID IT WOULD SAY FOR US TO VOTE NO AT THAT POINT. . I WOULD TRUST THIS COMMUNITY IS Y'ALL HAVE DONE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS TO REMIND US WHAT THEY SAID AND JUST TO FOLLOW IT THAT WAY. SO I ALSO O SO I THINK AT SOME POINT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO DO O IT TO DO IT. SO THAT WOULD BE MY --
>> MALE SPEAKER: I THINK IT'S 99 PERCENT THERE. THE TROUBLING WORDS I HAD WERE ANTICIPATED DEVELOPMENT AND EXPECTED OF THESE TWO TRACKS WOULD NOT CONNECT. IT DID NOT JUST OUTRIGHT SAY THEY WOULD NOT CONNECT. SO I THINK WE ARE REALLY CLOSE. YOU ARE RIGHT, I'VE BEEN ON HERE SINCE '17, AND THIS IS THE BEST PROPOSAL WE HAVE SEEN, FOR US FOR THIS
AREA. >> MALE SPEAKER: AND THE HAPPIEST THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN.
>> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH. WE HAVE HEARD ALL OF YOU MULTIPLE TIMES COME UP AND SPEAK YOUR MIND TO US, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
AND WE ARE LISTENING. I THINK THIS IS THE MOST POSITIVE I HAVE HEARD THIS NEIGHBORHOOD REACT TO A PROPOSAL SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION. SO I THINK WE ARE REALLY CLOSE.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE NEXT STEP WITH THE PLATTING, THAT IS WHERE I THINK WE CAN PUT SOME VERY CRITICAL EYES ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TEAS ARE CROSSED AND THOSE I'S ARE DOTTED TO MAKE SURE HAT THAT ACCESS THROUGH TO THE SERVICE
ROAD IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. >> MALE SPEAKER: CLAYTON AND KYLE ARE SITTING OVER THERE AND THEY WILL PASS ALONG TO THE
DEVELOPER. >> MALE SPEAKER: RIGHT. I CERTAINLY WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF MORE DISCUSSION.
>> MALE SPEAKER: I THINK EVERYBODY IS IN AGREEMENT THAT IF WE COULD JUST PUT THE CONDITIONS SOMEHOW, LIKE WE HAVE DONE ON OTHER MATTERS, OF MD CAN CONNECTED CAMPUS CORE, THERE'S TO BE A BARRIER, SOME KIND OF BUFFER THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREEN OR FENCE OR WHATEVER IT IS, MAYBE THERE'S ONE OR TWO
OTHERS THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT. >> MALE SPEAKER: I THINK IT'S JUST A ZONING MORNING FOR CONDITIONS.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: CORRECT, BECAUSE THE REQUEST IS TO REMOVE THE PD AND GO BACK TO THE, TO THESE ZONING DESIGNATIONS. YOU CANNOT IMPOSE OTHER CONDITIONS. AND SO, THAT IS WHY WE ARE SAYING SINCE, IF YOU DO GRANT THE REQUEST AS IT'S PRESENTED, YOU CANNOT ADD THE CONDITIONS. BUT WITH THE CHAIRMAN IS SAYING IS PLATTING, YOU GET THE CHANCE TO
REVIEW THAT. >> MALE SPEAKER: I AM JUST CONCERNED FROM THE -- I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORS' PERSPECTIVE, BUT I'M THINKING FROM THE REAL ESTATE SIDE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPERS WILL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND I'M SURE CLAYTON AND TAL CAN SPEAK TO THIS BETTER THAN I CAN WITH THE EXPENSE IT COSTS TO DOING THIS WITHOUT SOME INSURANCE THAT WOULD BE GRANTED. DOES THAT
MAKE SENSE? >> MALE SPEAKER: RIGHT NOW, I GUESS IF WE DO IT, IF WE APPROVE THIS, IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER ZONING CASE, WE HAVE APPROVED IT. AND THEN WE HAVE MADE IT KNOWN THAT WE WILL NOT BE HAPPY AT THE PLATTING PROCESS. > MALE SPEAKER: SURE. I THINK OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOOD WITH THAT, I CERTAINLY AM.
>> MALE SPEAKER: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I HATE TO SAY, TRUST ME, BUT WE HAVE BEEN, WE HAVE SEEN THIS CASE ENOUGH. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS CASE MOVE FORWARD AND GET THIS THING DONE. I MEAN, I CAN CERTAINLY SYMPATHIZE WITH CARMEN'S POSITION ON GETTING A PD, BUT TO ME THAT WILL COMPLICATE THINGS, BECAUSE IF THE DEVELOPER WILL FOLLOW THROUGH WITH WHAT HE WANTS TO DO, WHICH
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IS GETTING AN ABANDONMENT OF CAMPUS COURT, THAT WILL COME BEFORE US AND THAT WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING. SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP, THAT THEY WOULD COME TO ABANDON CAMPUS COURT FOR THAT AREA AND THAT WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM.>> MALE SPEAKER: AND THEN THEY CAN PLOPPED THE WAY THEY WENT TO PLAT. THAT'S THE REASON THAT THAT STEP HAS TO BE TAKEN
BEFORE THE NEXT STEP. >> MALE SPEAKER: CLAYTON STEPPED OUT OF THERE AND SPOKE OUT OF TURN, BUT, ANYWAY, I REALLY -- MY OPINION IS I LIKE THIS, LIKE THE POSITION.
>> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE.
>> MALE SPEAKER: I WILL SECOND. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: >> FEMALE
SPEAKER: MR. BARNETT? >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BENHAM? >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. NOONAN? >> MALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MS. FLEMING? >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YES.
>> FEMALE SPEAKER: MR. BRAUNBAUM?
>> MALE SPEAKER: YES. >> FEMALE SPEAKER: MOTION >> MALE SPEAKER: THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE. COME
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.