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[CALL TO ORDER]

[INVOCATION]

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ARTICLE II OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

DRC IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH NO CONDITIONS

>> NEXT IS A FINAL PLOT, THIS IS HUNTER'S LANDING 4.

FINAL PLOT LAYING OUT TWO RESIDENTIAL HOME SITES.

AND THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE HUNTER'S LANDING SUBDIVISION. .

>> IT IS LAYING OUT 26 RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN THE ABILENE'S JURISDICTION. AND ARTICLE II OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND DRC IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND PRIOR RECORDING THE PLOT, THE CITY STAFF MUST BE FURNISHED WITH A TITLE OPINION, INSURING OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY AND ALL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, MUST BE IN PLACE OR A SUITABLE FINANCIAL GUARANTEE MUST BE PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE. NEXT PLOT FOR CONSIDERATION, IS AGAIN, ANOTHER FINAL PLOT, 6721. HIGHLAND FARMS SECTION 3.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A FINAL PLOT IN ABILENE'S EXTRA TIERIAL JURISDICTION. LAYING OUT 29 RESIDENTIAL LOTS JUST OFF FM89. THIS PLOT WAS REVIEWED BY ABILENE RESIDENTIAL COMMITTEE. SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO YOU TODAY, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. PRIOR TO APPROVING THE PLOT, CITY, MUST BE ISSUED WITH A TITLE INSURANCE COMPANY, AND CITY STAFF MUST BE COMPLETED WITH FIELD NOTES, BASICALLY IDENTIFYING THE EXACT LOCATION OF THE OUTER BOUNDARIES OF THE SUBDIVISION. PRIOR TO RECORDING THE PLOT, ALL IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE COMPLETED IN ACCORDANCE TO THE PLANS AND FINAL GUARANTEE MUST BE PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE, PRIOR TO RECORDING THE PLOT. NEXT PLOT FOR CONSIDERATION, A FINAL PLOT. THIS IS FP-3021.

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FINAL PLOT OF THE MEDAL ESTATES. AND IT IS LAYING OUT 17 RESIDENTIAL LOTS. JUST OFF SPHINX ROAD.

AND THIS PLOT WAS REVIEWED TO CHAPTER 3, ARTICLE II, WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS. STAFF IS REVIEWING ALL TODAY, SUBJECT POT CONDITIONS. CITY STAFF, INSURING OWNERSHIP TO THE PROPERTY. AND APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AND ULTIMATELY THE NECESSARY REPUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST BE IN PLACE OR A SUITABLE GUARANTEE MUST BE PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE, PRIOR TO REPORTING THE FINAL PLOT. THE NEXT PLOT IS A FINAL PLOT, FP5121. IT ISSED RED STONE CREEK, IT IS IN ABILENE'S EXTRA TERRITORIAL DIVISION.

THIS PLOT WAS REVIEWED BY A COMMITTEE, FINDING IT'S, SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND DRC IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. PRIOR TO RECORDING CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY ENGINEER DETAILING THE CITY I AM PROMPTS, MUST BE APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER.

AND ALL IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE IN PLACE AND SUITABLE GUARANTEE MUST BE PROVIDED, WITH THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND PRIOR TO RECORDING THE PLOT, A DRAINAGE, SUBMITTED BY THE OFFICE AND ALL APPROVED, ASSOCIATED WITH THE DRAINAGE PLAN MUST BE IN PLACE, PRIOR TO RECORDING THE PLOT. THE FINAL PLOT FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY, IS A FINAL PLOT 6521. THIS IS THE GEORGE W. JALONICKS, STREET RIGHT OF WAY IN TWO ALLEYS.

IT WAS AN ABANDONMENT OF CHURCH STREET AND TWO ALLEYS.

IT WILL BE A HOUSE, ASSISTED LIVING CENTER.

PLOT WAS REVIEWED, FOUND IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH ARTICLE II, SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO YOU TODAY. SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION PRIOR TO RECORDING THE PLOT.

THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION WITH THE ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY ASSOCIATION MUST BE IN PLACE OR A SUITABLE GUARANTEE INSURING THE COST OF THOSE ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE PROVIDED PRIOR TO RECORDING THE PLOT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SEVEN PLOTS AT THIS TIME.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR JARED? THANKS, JARED.

>> THANK YOU. >> I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY ONE OF THE PLOTS? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR A MOTION TO APPROVE

>> I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS CITED.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE WITH

CONDITIONS AND SECOND. >> MR. BARNET, MR. NUN ANN.

[ZONING]

>> MS. FLEMING AND MR MRS. ROSSENBLOT.

>> AND DIRECT APPROVAL AND DENIAL CITY COUNCIL'S REQUEST FROM JAMES PITS, TO CHANGE ZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL CITY

FAMILY TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, MY NAME IS NICK WATTS. I SERVE AS A PLANNER FOR THE CITY'S PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.

I'LL BE PRESENTING THIS CASE, Z Z2121-28. TO REZONE THREE LOTS, SPECIFICALLY, 437, 541, 557. THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES IN QUESTION, ARE HIGHLIGHTED AND STRIPED IN YELLOW.

THESE LOTS WERE VACANT FOR SOME TIME.

NOW IT APPEARS THE OWNER STORES VEHICLES IN TWO OF THE LOTS AND FENCED ONE OF THE LOT. FROM CONSEQUENCIAL ASPECT, LOT 2 AND LOT 3. THESE WERE ORIGINALLY A LOT SUBDIVISION PLOT. THESE THREE LOTS ARE LOCATED IN THE CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S ESSENTIALLY A NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IS DECLINED SINCE THE 1970'S.

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MANY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS WERE NEGLECTED AND CONSEQUENCIALLY DEMOLISHED LEAVING A LARGE NUMBER OF VACANT LOTS AND SCATTERED LOTS. THE REASONS WE MENTIONED THIS, BECAUSE ZONING RECORDS INDICATE THAT THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS ONCE EXISTED IN THE THREE LOTS.

THEY WERE CONSEQUENCIALLY DEMOLISHED IN THE 2000'S.

AND SINCE 1980, THE CITY OF ABILENE HAS IMPLEMENTED REVITALIZATION EFFORTS WITHIN THE CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE CITY HAS PASSED THREE RESOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS THE EFFORTS. RESOLUTION 1920, 1980.

AND MOST RECENT RESOLUTION 16, 2011.

THAT RESOLUTION, ADDED THE CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, AS AN ADDENDUM TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION INCLUDED IN THE PLAN, THE GOAL OF THE PLAN WAS TO FACILITATE QUALITY NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBLE LAND USE AND THE OBJECTIVES OF THE PLAN WAS TO REZONE PROPERTIES FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO LESS INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICTS. WITH THAT IN MIND, HERE'S A ZONING MAP, THAT SHOWS THE ZONING PROPERTIES.

THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS, WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ARE ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. SPECIFICALLY TO THE WEST AND NORTH, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS. THE LOTS ADJACENT, ARE ZONED AS HEAVY COMMERCIAL. FOUR LOTS, NORTH THAT ARE ADJACENT TO NORTH 11TH AND ASH, ARE REZONED FROM RX6 TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL IN 2015. THAT'S SPECIFIC ORDINANCE IS SUPPORTING DOCUMENT WITHIN YOUR PACKET.

THESE NEXT SLIDES INDICATE THE PERMITTED USES WITHIN CURRENT RS6 DISTRICT. IT'S ALL FOR PRETTY MUCH RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS A SLIDE INDICATING EVERYTHING THAT'S PERMITTED WITHIN THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. EVERYTHING THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED AND -- HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, THOSE ARE PERMITTED USES THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED WITHIN THE NEXT LOWER INTENSITY ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT, I COULD ANSWER THE QUESTIONS LATER ON AT THE END OF THIS AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO THIS, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. THIS IS JUST THE NEXT LOWER INTENSITY ZONING DISTRICT. THIS IS AN EXPANDED VIEW OF THE ZONING OF CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU COULD SEE THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ARE ADJACENT TO TREADWAY, NORTH, WHICH IS IN ARTERIAL NORTH 13TH STREET, WHICH IS A COLLECTOR, WALNUT, WHICH IS A LOCAL AND PINE STREET, WHICH IS A MINOR ARTERIAL. THE PROPOSED -- AND THE PROPOSED USE OF THE SITE IS TYPICALLY ONLY PERMITTED WITHIN HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.

WHAT THE OWNERS IS INTENDING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY, IS TO DO RETAIL SALES AND RENTAL OF TRUCKS AND OTHER LARGE VEHICLES OR WE CAN CONSIDER IT AS RETAIL SALES RENTAL, AUTOMOBILE AND SMALL TRUCKS. SO THE REASON WHY I WAS BRINGING UP THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL, THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR.

EXCEPT IN DC, IT REQUIRES THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, TO OPERATE THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS.

SO THIS IS A MAP FROM THE INITIAL CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD STRATEGY PLAN FROM 1980, THAT'S RESOLUTION 19-1080.

THE MAP IN THE LEFT REPRESENTS LAND USE AT THAT TIME AND THE MAP ON THE RIGHT INDICATES THE DESIRED LAND USE.

IT APPEARS THESE WERE INTENDED FOR MULTIFAMILY LAND USAGE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I COULD ALSO ANSWER THEM DURING THIS PORTION. AND HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. MANY OF THE NEIGHBORING LOTS ARE CURRENTLY VACANT. AS STATED EARLIER, THE APPLICANT HAS RELOCAED SEVERAL RENTAL TRUCKS ONE AND TWO.

THE OTHER AM CAN'TS IS THE -- NEIGHBORING TO THE SOUTH, HAS

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SINGLE RESIDENTS. THERE'S A RESIDENTS THERE.

HERE'S SOME EXAMPLES OF REINVESTMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. THESE ARE SEVERAL EXAMPLES AROUND PLUM STREET. THIS IS A LITTLE TO THE NORTH.

AND THERE'S CURRENTLY A REMODEL, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS ON NORTH 9TH AND MESQUITE STREETS. SO AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 1.2, 0.2. STAFF, WITHIN THE PROPERTY, LOCATED WITHIN 200 FEET. AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT

HAPPENED IN THE SCREEN. >> SORRY.

IT WILL COME BACK UP. >> OKAY. THE STAFF NOTIFIED EACH OWNER OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED OF 200 FEET OF THE EXTREME BOUNDARY. WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR AND 11 IN OPPOSITION. STAFF FOUND THIS REQUEST IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE PLAN USE AND PLAN MAP.

IT WAS PURSUANT 0.1, 0.4, OF LAND USE FOR APPROVAL.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL, DUE TO THE FUTURE PLANNED USE, IDENTIFIES THIS AREA FOR SINGLE ENVIRONMENTAL.

IT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE PLAN MAP.

AND. REDEVELOPMENT OF VACANT LAND SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE, AND PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY. INFILL SHOULD STABILIZE AND REVITALIZE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND SUPPORT QUALITY MIX USE CENTERS.

TO DEPLOY THE NUMBERS, 2016-2011, THAT ADDED THE PLAN TO THE COMP PLAN. STATED THE GOALS TO FACILITATE QUALITY NEIGHBORHOOD, TO REZONE PROPERTIES TO LESS INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICTS. A RESURGENCE OF SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, SUGGESTS THAT RESIDENTIAL LOTS ARE STILL DESIRED. PERMITTING MORE ZONING DISTRICTS, WILL CONTINUE THE INVESTMENT OF THE CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD. THE SLOW EXPANSION, WITHIN THE CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD, HAS EXAGGERATED THE PATTERN OF DISINVESTMENT, IN THE SINGLE FAMILY, WEDGED BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND ZONING DISTRICTS. I'LL BE HAPPY TO EN AN ANY

QUESTIONS. >> SO THE RESOLUTION 16-2011, THAT CAME OUT IN 2011? ?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND THE LOTS JUST NORTH OF THIS WERE RESIDENTIAL RF X6 AND THEY WERE REZONED TO HEAVY

COMMERCIAL IN 2015? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IF THERE WAS AN INCENTIVE NOT TO DO THAT FROM THE RESOLUTION, WHY WERE THOSE LOTS CHANGED TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL?

>> BASED ON THE MINUTES OF THE MEANING, THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF INFORMATION PROVIDED WITHIN THERE.

THE --. THE LOTS ADJACENTS TO THIS ARE ZONES AS KHMERRIAL. BASED ON THE STAFF REPORT, THERE

WAS NOT ANY EVER IDDED >> WHAT WAS THE RECOMMEND DYINGS

>> RECOMMENDATION WAS TWO OF THE LOTS, 4762, 430342918, AND 910 TO BE REZONE TO MEDIUM DENSITY DISTRICT

>> SO THE BOARD CHOSE NOT TO TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND DID 434042918, 42762 AS HEAVY COMMERCIAL?

>> YEAH, ALL FIVE,. >> YOU THINK THAT'S FOR NICK?

THANKS, NICK. >> I'LL OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING.

WOULD ANYBODY WANT TO ADDRESS THE ZONING CASE?

? >> I WOULD.

I HAVE NOT DONE THIS BEFORE. I APOLOGIZE.

MY NAME IS JENNY HENLEY AND I'M JIM'S EX-WIFE.

I'M HERE, ON THE PETITION TO REZONE.

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AND I HAD HIM TO DO HOMEWORK, BECAUSE I'M A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY. HE DID THE HOMEWORK, OTHER THAN CONDEMN. AND HE SPELLED IT.

IT'S TOO LATE NOW. I DON'T HAVE.

I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THIS. THE THREE LOTS, ATTEMPTING TO BE REZONED. HEATS GOT AND HE'S GOTTEN HOIM.

>> AND HE HAD THE GREEN DOTS. AND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HE WASN'T ABLE TO TALK TO, LIVE OUT ESTATE.

THE EMPTY LOT. THERE'S AN EMPTY LOT.

WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE DENIAL TO REZONE, YOU HAVE ZONED HEAVY COMMERCIAL 399814817548210678 YOU HAVE REZONED 4372 HEAVY COMMERCIAL. 43163 AND 43400 AND HE DOESN'T INTEND TO BUILD ANY HOUSES. HE DOESN'T INTEND TO CROW EIGHT ANY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. IT WON BE A POTENTIAL TO ACROSS THE STREET OR VA CAN'T LOTS ACROSS THE STREET.

I UNDERSTAND, IN 2011, THERE WAS SOME PASSING OF LAWS, TO MAKE IT A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND MAKE IT TO BE REVAMPED.

THE HOUSES EARLIER, WAS IN NORTH AND PEACH WHICH IS 7 BLOCKS AWAY. THE PETITION, INVOLVED THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ALL AROUND HIM, OTHER THAN THE ONE HOUSE ON THE CORNER, INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE FURTHER DOWN THE STREET. IF YOU DON'T ALLOW HIM TO REZONE HEAVY COMMERCIAL, FRK I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY WANTS PLACE IT ESSENTIALLY, THEY WILL GET AND I HE HAS SOME U HAUL THAE.

HE HAD BEEN TAKING CARE OF THE PROPERTY FOR YEARS, EVER SINCE IT WAS CONDEMNED. HE MADE AN ARRANGEMENT WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNER, HE WAS MOWING IT.

IT WASN'T UNTIL COVID CAME. SOMEONE SAID, HEY, YOU'RE CAN'T.

SO HE HIRED ME. SO I BOUGHT IT AND SOLD IT TO HIM. I BOUGHT IT THROUGH A STATE.

IT TURNS OUT THE YOUNG LADY PASSED AWAY AND HER FAMILY MEMBERS WERE WERE EVERYWHERE. I GOT TOGETHER WITH A YOUNG LADY, WHO IS AN ATTORNEY. SHE REPRESENTED THEM THROUGH AN ESTATE. I MADE AN OFFER.

SHE ACCEPTED THE OFFER. I PURCHASED IT ON BEHALF OF MR. PITS, WHO COULDN'T DO A LOT, WHO IS A STAGE 4 CANCER SURVIVOR. HE SPENT ALL OF COVID, DEALING WITH STAGE 4. THAT'S WHY YOU WILL SEE A REAL DEED PASSING ALONG. IT WENT TO ME FIRST, BECAUSE HE WAS IN BED, I MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO DEAL WITH REZONING.

THAT'S WHY THERE'S A DENIAL, WHEN I'VE BEEN VISITING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND RECOMMENDATION WAS TO GO AHEAD AND GET IT REZONED TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

TAT'S WHY THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION, OF A DENIAL.

I WOULD ASK YOU REZONE IT TO COMMERCIAL.

HE DOESN'T INTEND TO DO ANYTHING INAPPROPRIATE ON THE PROPERTY.

HE'S BEEN KEEPING IT UP FOR THE CITY.

YOU GUYS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, YOU HAD TO CONDEMN A HOUSE THAT WAS ON THE HOUSE. YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PUT IT TORN

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DOWN. YOU HAD TO PUT A LEAN ON THE PROPERTY. THE PEOPLE WHO PAID THE PROPERTY HAD TO PAY ESTATE TAXES AND THEN ENDED UPSETLING WITH THE CITY AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN MOWING IT. WHEN HE MADE THE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE PREVIOUS PERSON IN CHARGE OF THE ESTATE, IT REALLY.

HE'S OWNED THE OTHER PROPERTY SINCE 2008.

HE DOESN'T INTEND TO GET RID OF IT AND HE DIDN'T DIE.

HE STILL INTENDS TO RUN HIS BUSINESS.

IF YOU DON'T APPROVE IT, SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL BASED ON A 2011 STANDARD, YOU HAVE PROPERTY THAT WILL CONTINUE TO SIT THERE AND NOT BE USEFUL FOR A PURPOSE AND IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. I THINK HE DIDN'T COLOR ALL OF THESE. I SHINED.

>> I HAVE 1042 COTTON. 42543.

>> 4-10762 HE DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE ALL SENDING, THE THING THAT SAYS HE'S APPROVED OR DENIED.

420407, 41534, APPROVED. LOT 41662, 43673.

MS. MICKETTE, 51381. 48715, MS. ALISEDA, WHO SIGNED IT. THE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE ON ASH STREET, 1118 ASH STREET, SIGNED IT 12:09.

AND 12:25 ASH STREET. THE INDIVIDUALS AROUND HIM, EXCEPT ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS OPPOSED AND APPARENTLY, WHOMEVER HAS MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY IN THE MEETINGS. YOU TELL ME, WHAT I NEED TO --

>> WAS THERE A COMPLAINT? DID THE CITY COME BY AND NOTICE

WHAT WAS GOING ON. >> THERE WAS A CITY INSPECTOR THAT CAME BY. CAN'T HAVE YOU HAUL.

THEY CAME, AND YOU CAN'T HAVE U HAULS ON THE PROPERTY.

HE GAVE ME, THE VIOLATION. I CONTACTED THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND PROPERTY. AND THE SHE WAS VERY SICK.

SHE ENDED UP PASSING AWAY. THEN THERE'S A NEW ADD NR TORE AND OTHER ESTATES. SARAH BAILEY WAS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR. DURING THAT TIME, WE PLACE THE EVERY THING ON HOLD. I TALKED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. LET'S JUST GET IT, TO WHERE YOU PUT A DRIVEWAY. THAT'S STILL INSUFFICIENT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE THE RENTAL PLAYERS.

THE PROPERTY PUT IN AT THE DRIVEWAY TO WHERE IT'S INAPPROPRIATE, IT'S NOT STILL APPROPRIATE, TO UTILIZE THE BUSINESS, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE REZONED TO HAVE COMMERCIAL.

THEY MADE ME AN OFFER AND I ACCEPTED IN HARD PURCHASE.

THIS HAD BEEN THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I WILL SAY NO.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CARVER STEVENSON AREA, TRYING TO GET IT CLEANED UP, AND WORKING WITH THE COCOMPLIENS.

IS THAT WHAT -- >> IS IT, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I THINK THEY WERE OIT THERE, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO CLEAN UP THEIR LOTS AND HE SAW THAT THEY HAD U HAULS IN THE PROPERTY AND THEY WENT AND TALKED TO HIM AT THE SHOP, FIGURE IT OUT. THAT'S WHEN I BECAME INVOLVED.

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THAT'S WHEN I CONTACTED THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO FIND AIRS.

ONE OF THE HEIRS WAS IN CALIFORNIA.

WE ENDED UP PURCHASING THE LAST TWO LOTS.

ONE OF IPPING THE THING, HE'S W WERE. HE COULD EXTEND THE FENCE, IF IT MAKES EVERYONE UNCOMFORTABLE. WE HAVE TO GET IT REZONED BEFORE HE COULD SPEND ANY MORE MONEY ON THE PROPERTY.

>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE?

>> ROSS KELLERMAN, 1110 ORANGE, ABOUT A QUARTER MILE FROM THE PROPERTY. I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE POLLING THE FOLKS DID. IT DID STRIKE ME, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE CITY'S POLLING, MOST OF THE FOLKS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPERTY BEING REZONED, WERE THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES SURROUNDING IT. IT MAKES SENSE THEY WOULD BE MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AROUND IT.

OUR COUNTRY DOESN'T HAVE A U HAUL CRISIS.

WE HAVE HOUSING CRISIS. WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS, TRYING TO REZONE, RESIDENTIAL PROSPECT.

WE NEED WALL TO WALL NEIGHBORHOODS.

THEY ARE FOCUSED ON SERVING. IT'S NOT A BUSINESS THAT NECESSARILY HIRES PEOPLE FROM THE CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN ORDER TO HAVE A HEALTHY VITAL NEIGHBORHOOD, IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE BUSINESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT MAKES SENSE TO TRY TO PURSUE THOSE BUSINESSES RATHER THAN A BUSINESS OF THIS SORT. THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD, THIS REALLY FEELS TO ME, AND I'LL PUT ONE MORE THING IN THE TABLE. I'M THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF CITIZENS ABILENE NORTH, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M STILL A BOARD MEMBER.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS STRUGGLING FOR A LONG TIME.

IT'S FINALLY STARTING TO GET MOMENTUM TOWARDS HAVING THE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE NEEDED TO HAPPEN FOR A LONG TIME. I CAN, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY, HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, TOWARDS WORKING GETTING THE NEGATIVE STUFF OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MOVING TOWARDS THE POSITIVE THINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REZONING MORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND INTO SOMETHING LIKE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL DOESN'T HELP THAT PROCESS.

IT REALLY ADDS TO THE DEPTH BY A THOUSAND CUTS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, AND PART OF THE 2011 PROPOSAL.

AS YOU SAW. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL ENCOACHING. AND ELY.

FROM -- WE'RE GOING TO UP WITH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS HISTORICALLY BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS OF ABILENE.

QUITE FRANKLY, WE DON'T NEED MORE OF THAT EITHER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

. >> JAMES FITS, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE ACTUALLY OWNED THE LOT 43762 SINCE I SEE, 2002, ZONED HEAVY COMMERCIAL. I HAVE ALONG WITH OTHER BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS INCLUDING MULTIPLE RESIDENTS, IN 2006, 2007, 2008, CREATED A PROBLEM FOR THE DRUGS, FOR THE PROSTITUTION, FOR THE THEFT AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS HAPPENING ON THE LOTS. 4340 AND I CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT. FROM 4340, TO 4347, THERE USED

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TO BE RUNNED DOWN HOUSES AND EVERYTHING IN THAT AREA OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE IT WAS JUST HORRIBLE.

THE THEFT, THE VIOLENCE, THE DRUGS, EVERYTHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN 2006, 2007, 2008, I TEAMED UP WITH TERRY LANGFORD, THAT I OWNED THE MESQUITE SHOP ACROSS THE STREET. TONY, WHO OWNS THE MECHANIC SHOP, ALONG WITH BILLY BOYD, THAT OWNS THE MONUMENT COMPANY.

WE BEGAN AND LETTY'S BOOTS AS WELL.

WE BEGAN THE CAMPAIGN TO RID THAT AREA OF THE PROBLEMS, AND THE TERRIBLENESS, IS HOW I COULD PUT IT.

IF THERE IS A REASON TO KEEP THIS RESIDENTIAL, THE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WOULD HAVE BEEN CONDEMNED AND DESTROYED AND NOBODY HAS COME IN THERE. WE HAVE MAINTAINED YARDS.

WE DO IT OVER OUR OWN ACCORD. BECAUSE WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO LOOK GOOD. WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO NOT HAVE TRASH ON THE FENCES. PROPERTIES ALONG THAT HAVE LITTLE FOUR FOOT CHAIN-LINK FENCES AND THE LOTS ARE EMPTY.

TRASH THAT GETS ACCUMULATED, LAWN GUYS TO MOW THE EMPTY LOTS, THE HAZARDS THAT CREATED IN PARTICULAR, LOT NUMBER 45538.

THERE IS OVER 12 FOOT BAMBOO. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LIVES IN CALIFORNIA. HE HAS NO DESIRE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. YOU CANNOT LIVE THAT ROAD ON ASH STREET ON THE 10TH, WITHOUT RISKING GETTING IN A RENT.

ONCE A YEAR, WE GO AND WE TAKE ALL THAT BAMBOO AND WE TAKE EVERYTHING AND CLEARED THAT LOT FOR NO PAY, FOR NOTHING -- JUST IT'S OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. TO SAY THAT IT'S A BLACK PERSON'S NEIGHBORHOOD IS CRAZY. IT'S EVERYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IN THIS CASE THERE'S 11 FORS AND 1 AGAINST.

SHE OWNS LITERALLY A 50X50 PIECE IN AN ALLEY.

FOR REASONS UNKNOWN TO ME, WHY THEY SENT THAT BACK LIKE THAT WE MAINTAIN AS MANY OF THE LOTS AS POSSIBLE.

WE TRY TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD NICE.

WE TRY TO KEEP ANY CRIME OUT OF THE AREA, ANYTHING WE SEE, WE REPORT IT. FOR THOSE REASONS, ON TOP, YOU KNOW, ME OWNING HEAVY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND OWNING THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT AND CONNECTED TO IT, I REQUESTED AT THIS TIME, TO, YOU KNOW, AN APPROVAL.

IT'S SOMETHING I'VE WORKED MY ENTIRE LIFE.

I'VE BEEN IN ABILENE MY ENTIRE LIFE.

I OWN PROPERTIES HERE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT HARD.

IT'S HARD TO NOT -- IT'S HARD TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK AND EFFORT. I APPRECIATE, AND I WILL APPRECIATE AN APPROVAL. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> QUESTION, THANK YOU,

MR. PITS. >> I HOPE YOU'RE FEELING BETTER.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> MY NAME IS VICTORIA TEBO.

I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS BUT I REPRESENT THE OWNERS -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT LOT IT IS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE NORTH 12TH IN MESQUITE. WE PRETTY MUCH CROSS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INTERSECTION ALL THE TIME.

I LIVED IN THE RESIDENTS FOR FOUR YEARS.

I THINK, A LOT OF PEOPLE HISTORICALLY, IT'S A HISTORICAL BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS BUILT HERE. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF PLACES THAT THEY COULD LIVE BECAUSE THE TOWN WAS SEGREGATED.

SO THIS CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD, WAS ONE OF THE LOCATIONS THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS COULD LIVE AND STAY.

LIKE MR. ROSS WAS SAYING EARLIER, THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS IN TOWN THAT ARE FINALLY GETTING THE NOTORIETY AND THE FUNDING TO START REVAMPING THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED FOR SO MANY YEARS THAT HAD HOUSES THAT EVENTUALLY CRUMBLED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO KEEP UP.

BY THE WAY, THE PROPERTY TAXES WENT UP LAST YEAR.

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I DON'T KNOW HOW. SINCE ALL OF THESE HOUSE -- SOME ARE BEING REBUILT AND REVAMPED. THE PROPERTY THAT MR. PITS OWNS, HIS ATTORNEY SAID EARLIER, HE WAS NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING THOSE. I SUGGEST YOU MAY WANT TO BE INTERESTED IN SELLING THOSE, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN REINVESTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I URGED THE CITY TODAY, TO DENY THIS REQUEST TO MAKE IT HEAVY COMMERCIAL. I THINK IT WOULD BE A CONFUSION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR WHAT IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND WHAT IT STILL WANTS TO BE AND HAS BEEN NEGLECTED DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND I ASKED FOR THE DENIAL IN THAT.

AND ALSO, MY LAWN HAS NEVER BEEN MOWED FOR FREE.

AND SO THAT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE. NOR HAVE ANY OF THE LOTS AROUND US. MOST OF THE TIME, SEE LIKE THEM BEING MOWED, AFTER IT'S VERY OVERGROWN, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM, ARE HERE. SOME OF THEM ARE WILLING TO SELL. A LOT OF THEM HAVE SOLD LAST YEAR, AND TO A BUYOUT IN DALLAS. I'LL JUST SAY, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD MEANS A LOT TO ME BUT IT MEANS A LOT TO A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED OVER THE YEARS.

AND SO I JUST ASK THAT, HOPE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE TREATED LIKE WITH -- I CAN CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD FOUNDATION, THEY WANT TO MAKE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FUNCTIONING, PUT BUSINESSES IN THERE, THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WORK FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT, PUT THE MONEY BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN COMMERCIALIZING, PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING FROM WHATEVER.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE. >> I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC

HEARING. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> WE'RE IP FOR DISCUSSION NOW. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY, WITH REGARDS TO THE CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CARVER NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S NO SECRET IT HAS BEEN A HISTORICAL BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN BLACKS WERE RED LINED TO STAY IN CERTAIN PLACES THAT WERE RED LINED FOR FLOOD AREAS IN ABI ABILENE.

RECENTLY, THERE HAS BEEN AN ABUNDANCE OF PURCHASES THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THESE RED LINE AREAS THAT PEOPLE HAVE NOT SHOWN REALLY MUCH INTEREST IN, IN THE LAST 20-30 YEARS.

IN THE LAST, MAYBE FIVE YEARS, YOU'VE SEEN PURCHASES GONE THROUGH THE ROOF. NOT JUST EVEN IN CARVER BUT IN A LOT OF THESE RED LIGHT AREAS, THAT BLACK PEOPLE WERE HISTORICALLY MADE TO LIVE IN AND COULD ONLY STAY IN, WHICH IS WHY, IT IS SO HISTORIC IN THE AREAS.

WITH MR. PITS SAYING, HAS BEEN TAKING CARE OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WAS CONDEMNED, AND IT IS TRUE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HAVE DIED OFF, A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN ABANDONED. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO BUY THEM AND THEY HAVE MOVED OFF. A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COME NOW TO TRY TO, TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY AND OTHER PEOPLE TO BUY THAT PROPERTY BACK TO TRY TO MAINTAIN IT, THE GRASS AND EVERYTHING. IT'S REALLY HARD WHEN YOU HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THIS, EVEN FOR A PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE OF PROPERTY, TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE CITY, CLEAN UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO HEARING THAT THE CITIZENS SAYING, HEY, WITH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE BUYING UP THE PROPERTIES AND THE HOMES AND THEY ARE WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD HOUSES HERE. SO, IN PLANNING AND ZONING, WE WANT YOU TO KNOW, WE HEAR BOTH SIDES AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT AND WE WILL MAKE THE BEST CHOICE AS WE CAN, AS FAR AS ZONING GOES AND TRY TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR THE DECISION HERE.

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>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENT?

>> I'M A LITTLE BIT TORN. I WAS SURPRISED IN 2015 THE BOARD MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THE LOTS TO THE NORTH AFTER A 2011 RESOLUTION THAT SAID, WE'D

RATHER NOT. >> I DON'T REMEMBER ANY DISCUSSION AT THE TIME, NOT THAT IT WOULD HAVE MADE ANY OPINIONS AT THE TIME. I DON'T RECALL ANY DISCUSSION OF

THAT AT THE TIME >> I CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THE CITY HAS THE RESOLUTION IN PLACE, AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 10 YEARS. ON THE OTHER HAND, I LOOK AT THIS AND TRYING TO WEIGH VERY HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONE CORRIDOR, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. MANY OF THE LOTS AROUND THE PROPOSED LOTS ARE VACANT. THERE ARE NO HOUSES THERE NOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S PLANS FOR HOUSES TO BE BUILT ON THE LOTS. THERE'S A STRUGGLE IN ME RIGHT NOW AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE CHANGE IN ZONING FOR THESE THREE LOTS AGAINST WHAT THE CITY HAS PUT IN PLACE FOR THE RESOLUTION SO. NICK, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. I'M GLAD YOU STEPPED BACK UP.

ON THE PROPERTIES WHERE YOU SHOWED THERE WERE NEW HOUSES, NEW IMPROVEMENTS, BEING MADE AND IT'S INDICATED THOSE ARE ON PLUM

STREET. >> CORRECT.

>> DO YOU HAVE THE ADDRESSES OF THOSE? IS THAT NEARBY? HOW MANY BLOCKS ARE FROM THE LOTS, ARE THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS LOCATED

>> I BELIEVE THEY ARE LOCATED IN NORTH 14TH AND.

>> DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE SOME APPLICATIONS, BETWEEN NORTH 13TH STREET AND NORTH 10TH STREET, BETWEEN TREAD AWAY AND WALNUT, FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL CONSTR

>> AND NOW THE STANDARDS ARE TO BE 60 FEET IN WIDTH.

AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE VARIANCE REQUEST.

>> AMERTAX HOMES, AND THERE'S 8 LOTS THERE.

. >> I'M NOT TOO SURE ON THAT

>> THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE VARIANCE PROCEDURE

>> WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE LAND OWNER, TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM THE PLANNED, AND TO ALLOW, AND NOT NECESSARILY OPEN

IT UP TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL. >> WE SPOKE BRIEFLY ABOUT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. STAFF TRIES TO STAY AWAY FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. WHAT YOU COULD DO, GENERAL RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT. THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE, HEAVY DISTRICTS, CHANGE FROM, IS SOMETHING LESS INTENSIVE.

WHAT THE APPLICANT IS INTENDING TO USE IT FOR, IS A COMMERCIAL-TYPE USE. HEAVY COMMERCIAL-TYPE USE, WHICH IS FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE AND DISPLAY OF GOODS.

>> I COULD RESPOND TO THE QUESTION.

>> PUBLIC FORUM IS CLOSED, MA'AM.

>> HE ASKED A QUESTION. >> MY ISSUE IS A PLETHRA OF OPTION. THERE'S MANY BULLET POINTS UNDER HC THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A DEVASTATING EFFECT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ENCROACHMENT IS ALSO AN ISSUE.

WE ARE CAUGHT IN PROGRESS. >> AND I KNOW THE INTENT OF THE RESOLUTION, INDICATED SPECIFICALLY, THEY ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO A LESS INTENSE ZONING.

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HAVE ANY OF THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONES IN PLACE THERE NOW, IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, HAVE THOSE CHANGED TO A LESS INTENSIVE

ZONING? >> I'M NOT TOO SURE.

BESIDES THE PLANNED, HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN, THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES. SINCE 1974, MAJORITY OF THE THOSE, LOTS BEING ZONED, ARE BEING ZONED AS HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

I THINK THE INTENT, LIKE WE'RE SAYING, IS TO GO TO A LESS INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICT, THAT COULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS, HEAVY COMMERCIAL PERMITS WAY TOO MANY USES.

THAT'S WHY I WAS MENTIONED, GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S THE NEXT INTENSITY ZONING DISTRICT.

IT COULD PERMIT WHAT THE INTEND USE WAS BUT IT MAY REQUIRE

INTENDED PERMIT USE AS WELL. >> I WANT MR. PITS TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND I WANT HIM TO BE CONTINUE HIS LIFE'S WORK.

I JUST WORRY ABOUT, WHAT HC WILL OPEN US UP TO.

>> WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT WHAT HEEGS WANTING TO DO, HE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS JUST ONE MORE CASE THAT GETS BROUGHT UP.

>> IS NORTH 11TH, LOCAL STREET? IS IT A COLLECTOR? IT'S PURPLE ON THE MAP. IT'S A PURPLE LINE ON THE --

>> YEAH, I'M DOING IT. I'M LOOKING AT IT.

>> THAT'S THE LOCAL STREET. >> THAT'S THE SAME AS ASHES.

>> MINE ARTERIAL, WILL BE A LITTLE MORE BOLD

>> FROM MY PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, TREADWAY IS GOING TO BE WHAT TREADWAY IS. IT'S GOING TO BE HEAVY COMMERCIAL ON TREADWAY. FOR THREE LOTS, THAT FACE 11TH, THE RESIDENTIAL, TO GO TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND STILL STAY WITHIN THE BLOCK OF NORTH TREADWAY. OBVIOUSLY, IF WE'RE MOVING IN PAST ASH AND WANTING TO ZONE SOMETHING IN THERE, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE IN MY MIND, A DISCREPPANCY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THERE'S LOTS OF LOTS THAT ARE NOT BEING UTILIZED TO SAY THESE THREE LOTS WOULD BE THE FIRST LOTS TO BE USED. OR MAKING, THESE THREE LOTS, OR SOMETHING, LIKE THAT. I JUST DON'T SEE, FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, THAT MAKING THESE LOTS, HEAVY COMMERCIAL HAS ANY IMPACT ON WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

THAT COULD GO ON IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THERE'S NO PLANS THERE. IF THERE WERE PLANS AND LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN THE AREA AND THERE'S LOTS OF LOTS BEING IN THERE AND CONTRACTORS DOING THINGS.

I WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

IT'S GOING TO BE HEAVY COMMERCIAL, IN THE FIRST BLOCK.

TO ME, PLANNING NEIGHBORHOODS SAY.

I DON'T SEE THIS IS A DETRIMENT TO THE OVERALL PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. MAYBE 20 YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S

GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT STORY. >> IS ASH STREET GOING TO BE THE STOPPING POINT. IF WE SET THE PRECEDENT AND SOMEONE COMES UP WITH THE THREE LOTS HERE.

ARE WE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION ALL OVER AGAIN.

>> I THINK YOU COULD. >> I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT GETS

SCARY. >> GOING FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL, TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN HEAVY COMMERCIAL, GOING TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL, THAT ZONING-TYPE CHANGE DOESN'T.

>> WHY NOT MAKE THAT CHANGE. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST CREEPING GENERAL COMMERCIAL BACK TO THE SUBDIVISION.

YOU'RE CREEPING SOME OTHER. IF YOU CHANGE IT TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL OR WE SAY, IT NEEDS TO BE RESIDENTIAL AND IT STAYS RESIDENTIAL. I'LL CHANGE IT TO SOME MIXED USE OR MIXED ZONING, THAT DOES ANYTHING TO US.

. >> YOU LOOK AT ASH.

ASH COMES DOWN AND STOPS AT NORTH 10TH STREET.

IT DOESN'T CONTINUE THROUGH, A MULTI-FAMILY BLOCK IN THERE.

YOU LOOK AT THE REMAINING LOTS FROM NORTH 10TH, TO NORTH 10TH STREET, BETWEEN ASH AND TREAD AWAY.

THERE'S ONLY A FEW OF THEM LEFT, THERE'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE HEAVY COMMERCIAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT WHOLE AREA.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS INEVITABLE. YOU'RE RIGHT, TREAD AWAY WILL BE WHAT IT IS. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

>> THERE'S SOME MIXED USE. >> NOT ON THE WEST SIDE.

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THIS WHOLE MAP FROM NORTH 8TH, TO NORTH 16TH, IS ALL HEAVY COMMERCIAL. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT'S SHOWN ON

THE MAP. >> YEAH, ALL THE WAY UP.

>> COULD WE GO BACK TO THE AERIAL.

>> THAT ONE? >> YEAH, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. I DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR

QUESTION. >> I THINK MY ISSUE, WILL CONTINUE TO BE, BECAUSE OF WHO THIS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN AND TRIALS IT'S FACED. THESE ARE CHEAP LOTS.

WE HAVE COUPLE HERE, $10-15,000 LOTS.

I THINK IT WOULD OPEN HEAVY COMMERCIAL, HEAVY PRESENCE IN THIS AREA, OPENS UP A PAN DORA'S BOX FOR CHEAP LOTS AND BIG BUSINESS. I MEAN, I WISH, THE 13TH PLUM AND NORTH 10TH, I WISH I COULD GUARANTEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I SEE THE 7-ELEVEN. I WISH I COULD GUARANTEE, WE CAN CARVE IT OUT. THAT'S THE RISK WE'RE WEIGHING

RIGHT NOW. >> GLEN, I THINK I'M WITH YOU, MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE PRESENCE OF THE LOTS AND INVESTMENT PERSPECTIVE, AND WHICH EVER IS SOMEONE DIRECTLY WEST.

EVEN IF TAS ZONE 6, I DON'T IMAGINE, ANYONE WOULD WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE ADJACENT TO A HEAVY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

I WOULDN'T. ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S A PLETHRA OF EMPTY LOTS ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT WOULD BE A BETTER.

MOVING EAST, THAT'S 150 MORE FEET FROM TREADWAY, WHICH IS A MAIN CORRIDOR. NORTH 10TH, MAIN CORRIDOR.

THIS ONE SEEMS MORE TO BE HEAVY COMMERCIAL THAN THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2015. THAT IS APPROVED TO MAIN ARTERY ROADS. HE'S OPERATING A GOOD BUSINESS AND BASICALLY WANTS TO FENCE IN AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE FENCE TO STORE HIS THINGS. I WANT TO MENTION THE FACT, I DON'T THINK 43163, IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST PLACE, YOU POP DOWN A RESIDENTIAL HOME. I'M WITH ALEX, I WISH THERE WAS A TRANSITION. I WISH THERE WAS SOMEONE TO BUY A BLOCK AND CREATE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL, MULTI-FAMILY TO A RESIDENTIAL SECTION.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US.

I'LL HOLD FOR OTHER PEOPLE, BUT IT MAY BE OKAY IN APPROVING TODAY, TO LETTING IT GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT THEY

SAY. >> I DON'T WANT TO TOP ANYONE ELSE. I'M WILLING TO MAKE THE MOTION,

AS LONG AS EVERYBODY ELSE IS. >> OKAY.

>> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE REZONING FROM, FOR THE THREE LOTS FROM R6 TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I'LL SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> BEFORE YOU CALL THE ROLL, ANYBODY ELSE, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

CHANTY, ANYBODY ELSE >> PLEASE CALL ON, TO GO TO THE

CITY COUNCIL. >>.

>> WE'RE APPROVING. .

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION >> MR. BARNETT?

>> MR. RUSSEL. >> MS. RUSSEL?

>> NO. >> MR. NOONEN,.

>> YES. >> AND MR. ROSENBAUM?

>> YES. >> MOTION CARRIES

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME

>> STILL HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL. >> THE SETTING, THAT WAS

NOTICED, RIGHT? >> YES.

>> YES. >> I'LL BE THERE

>> I ALWAYS ASK THE JUDGE. I HAVE TO GO TO COURT.

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>> BRAD, LET ME READ MY THING AND WE'LL GET.

>> THANK YOU, GUYS. >> APPRECIATE IT.

>> Z2021-29, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL TO CITY COUNCIL IN REQUEST WHETHER BE CONSTRUCTION TO AMEND TERMS AND CONDITIONS OR PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 104.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS BRAD STONE.

I'M ONE OF THE PLANNERS ON CITY STAFF HERE.

THIS CASE INVOLVES AMENDING TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, ORIGINALLY APPROVED BACK IN 2006. AS YOU MAY RECALL, EACH PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IN ABILENE, WHICH THERE ARE NOW, MORE THAN 150, IS A CUSTOM-MADE ZONING CLASSIFICATION TAILORED TO MATCH THE DEMANDS OF SOME PARTICULAR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE LIMITATIONS OF THE SPECIFIC ENVIRONMENT IN THIS CASE, WE'RE REEXAMINING, CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 104. OR ABBREVIATED SIMPLY AS PD104.

PD-104, EMBRACES ALMOST 85 ACRES OF LAND, WRAPPED AROUND THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF SOUTHWEST 27TH STREET AND OLDEN LANE IN SOUTHEAST ABILENE. PD104 ALSO HAS SIGNIFICANT FRONTAGE ON LUKE 2022. ALMOST ALL OF THE ACREAGE REMAINS VACANT. ONE EXCEPTION IS A FOUR ACRE TRACK NEAR THE NORTH END OF PD104 AND HAS EXCLUSIVE FRONTAGE ON EAST SOUTH 28TH STREET. AND THE FOUR ACRE TRACK IS THE SHAPED LOT, YOU SEE WITH THE FRONTAGE ON EAST SOUTH 27TH STREET. AT THE VERY MOMENT, A 48 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON THE FOUR ACRES OF LAND. THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOMETHING OF A ZONING AND SUBDIVISION OF LAND, AROUND PD-104.

LAND LOCATED TO THE NORTH, ACROSS EAST 27TH STREET, IS ZONED MOSTLY TO OPEN SPACE AND IS OCCUPIED MOSTLY BY OUTDOOR RECREATION AREAS FOR ABILENE SUPPORTED LIVING CENTER.

LAND LOCATED TO THE SOUTH, ACROSS THE WIDTH OF LUKE 322 IS ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND AT THIS MOMENT, REMAINS MOSTLY VACANT WELL, ALL VACANT.

LAND LOCATED DIRECTLY WEST OF PD104, IS IN ANOTHER AGRI AGRICULTURAL DISSTRICK. THIS AO DISTRICT INCLUDES SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, OF RELATIVELY LARGE TRACKS, AS WELL AS COMPLEX OF OUTDOOR SOCCER FIELDS. LAND LOCATED EAST, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF OLDEN LANE, INCLUDES ONE OTHER PLANNED DISSTRICK, COMPOSED OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TOWN HOMES.

ON THE SAME EAST SIDE OF OLDEN LANE CLOSER TO LOOP 322 ARE A COMBINATION OF MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND GENERAL DISTRICT, BOTH OF WHICH ARE NOW FULLY DEVELOPED.

HERE'S THE REAL HEART OF THE MATTER.

PD104 IS DIVIDED INTO FIVE OR SIX SUBAREAS SHOWN ON THE GRAPHIC CONCEPT PLAN. AND SUBAREAS SITUATED CLOSER TO LOOP 322 IN OLDEN LANE, ARE PLANNED PRIMARILY FOR RETAIL AND OFFICE USE, WITH AM SO ALLOWANCE FOR RESIDENTS.

THE OTHER SUBAREAS, ARE INTENDED PRIMARILY FOR VARIOUS TYPES AND DENSITIES OF RESIDENTIAL USE. THE APLIK INDICATE PROPOSES CHANGING, TO THREE SUBAREAS SHOWN IN THE GRAPHIC CONCEPT PLAN. FOR EXAMPLE, TRACK 3, LIES IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PD104. IT IS PRESENTLY LIMITED TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT C COMEMISSRAT, AND WITH A DENSITY OF 13 UNITS PER ACRE. AND ALLOWANCES ARE ALSO MADE FOR

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SELF-SERVICE STORAGE IN TRACK THREE.

IN TRACK THREE, THE APPLICANT DESIRES TO CHANGE THE BASE OR DEFAULT ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, INSTEAD OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BUT STILL KEEP THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE DENSITY AT 18 UNITS PER ACRE ON ANY ONE LOT.

IN EFFECT, THE ONLY PRACTICAL CHANGE IN THAT REGARD, IS THAT IT WILL PERMIT MORE THAN 4 DWELLINGS IN ONE LOT BUT STILL OVERALL DENSITY OF NO MORE THAN 18 UNITS PER ACRE.

THE PRO OPPONENT ALSO -- >> WHAT ABOUT THE SELF STORAGE.

>> SELF STORAGE, IS ALLOWED IN TRACK 3.

AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

>> THEY ARE NOT TAKING THAT OUT. >> THAT -- THAT'S PRESENTLY ALLOWED, THAT IS NOT PROPOSED TO CHANGE.

TRACK 4, IS ALSO PROPOSED TO CHANGE.

TRACK 4, REPRESENTED BY THE CIRCLES, IN THE NORTHEAST AREA OF PD104. THIS PD -- EXCUSE ME.

THIS TRACK 4, PRESENTLY ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT OF DUPLEXES, TOWN HOMES, PATIO HOMES AND CONVENTIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUT ANY CONVENTIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME SITES MUST NOW BE DEVELOP TO STANDARDS OF RH ZONING, WITH ITS MINIMUM 8,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZE. THE APLICANT DESIRES NOW.

AND THE OTHER CHANGE IS FOR TRACK 2.

TRACK 2 IS THE SMALL, ONE OF THE SMALLER OF THE TRACKS WITH FRONTAGE ON OLDHAM LANE AND EXTENDS, 350 WEST FROM OLDHAM LANE. THIS TRACK 2 IS IRN TENDED PRIMARILY FOR OFFICE USE. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE NOW ALLOWED IN TRACK 2. SO ANG AS LONG AS THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME SITES ARE DEVELOPED IN RS6 ZONING, WITH MINIMUM 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZE. THE APPLICANT NOW DESIRES, SINGLE FAMILY HOME SITES TO BE CHANGED WITH COMISSRAT, WITH ITS ZONING AND MINIMUM 6,000 LOT SIZE.

ANOTHER CHANGE THAT THE AM CAN PROPOSES IS TO REMOVE ONE PARTICULAR SPECIFICATION ROIRD BY ALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN PD-104. THAT BEING REQUIRED FOR ALL GARAGES TO HAVE ONLY SIDE AND REAR ENTRIES.

REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT AS PROPOSED WILL PROMOTE FRONT ENTRY GARAGE DOORS. FINALLY, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES CHANGING THE GRAPHIC CONCEPT PLAN THAT ACCOMPANIES PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THE NEW GRAPHIC CONCEPT PLAN WOULD BE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

CHANGES MADE INCLUDE THOSE THAT I HAVE SO FAR DESCRIBED.

THAT IS MAKING MF ZONING INSTEAD OF MD ZONING APPLIED TO TRACK 3, WITH THE SAME ALLOWABLE DENSITY OF 18 UNITS PER ACRE.

WE ALSO SEE, SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENT TO RX-6 STANDARDS, INSTEAD OF RX-6 STANDARDS IS SHOWN TO TRACKS 2-4.

WE HAVE A FEW PICTURES OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S MOSTLY STILL VACANT RIGHT NOW.

THE ONE EXCEPTION IS IN THE UPPER LEFT PHOTO.

THAT IS THE FOUR ACRE TRACK WHERE THE 48 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX IS PRESENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

IN THE UPPER RIGHT, I BELIEVE WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER VACANT ACREAGE ALONG EAST SOUTH 22ND STREET.

ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OUTDOOR RECREATION AREA FOR ABILENE STATES LIVING CENTER TO THE NORTH AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST-SOUTH 27TH STREET.

IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE VACANT ACREAGE IN

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THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. THIS WOULD BE THE TRACK 2, WHICH, AGAIN IS INTENDED PRIMARILY FOR OFFICES, BUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD ALSO BE PERMITTED IN THE TRACK 2, AGAIN, WITH APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET OF FRONTAGE ALONG OLDHAM LANE. CITY STAFF INDICATED TOTAL 21 OWNERS OF PROPERTY IN AND AROUND PD-104.

ONE RETURNED COMMENTS IN FAVOR AND TWO RETURNED COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION. THOSE TWO WRITTEN COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION COME FROM TWO OF THE TOWNHOUSES IN THE OTHER SIDE OF HOLDHAM LANE. AND ONE IN OPPOSITION ACROSS FROM OLDHAM LANE INDICATES, THEY ARE 100 PERCENT AGAINST.

CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVING THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED CHANGES TO PD-104. THESE CHANGES DON'T IN OUR OPINION, FUNDAMENTALLY ALTERNATE, ALREADY APPROVED WITH EXISTING ORDINANCES GOVERNING PD-104.

FOR EXAMPLE, INCREASING THE DENSITY OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FROM RX6 TO RX8, WOULD INCREASE TO 4.4 ACRE.

AND REMOVING THE SIDE AND REAR GARAGES IS CONSISTENT FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME CONSTRUCTION THAT'S APPLICABLE ALMOST EVERYWHERE IN ABILENE. VERY FEW OF ABILENE'S ZONING DISTRICTS, INCLUDING THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISIKT HAVES REQUIRE SIDE AND REAR GARAGES. AGAIN, CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS

APPROVING THE PROPOSED CHANGES. >> AND PUT THE TRACKS BACK UP,

IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> SO HONESTLY, WHEN I TRY TO READ ALL OF THAT. I TRIED TO READ AND MY EYES GLAZED OVER AND I ALREADY TOOK A NAP.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. LET'S TALK ABOUT TRACK 2, FIRST.

>> SURE. >> THEY HAD IN THEIR ORIGINAL PD, DID IT HAVE AN OFFICE ZONING, THE BASE ZONING?

DID IT ALLOW. >> OFFICE ZONING, ULS ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS. THEY ARE ALLOWED TO RESIDENTS, AND THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, FROM 2006, HAS A DEFAULT CLASSIFICATION OF OFFICES, BUT IF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WERE TO EMERGE, ORDINANCE REQUIRED THEM TO BE TO RX8 STANDARDS.

>> THIS IS MOVING IT TO THE STANDARD DEFAULT.

>> ORDINARILY, IN OFFICE DISTRICT.

>> WE'RE LEAVING IT TO OFFICE ZOPPING BUT IT WOULD GO TO RX6.

>> YES. >> NOW IN TRACK 3, WAS MULTI-FAMILY THE ORIGINAL ZONING ON IT?

THAT WAS THE BASE ZONING. >> GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING.

THE 2006 ORDINANCE, DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING, ABOUT A BASE OR DEFAULT RESIDENTIAL ZONING. IT SIMPLY SAID THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO 18 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND SELF-SERVICE STORAGE THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL. IN 2015, AN AMENDMENT WAS MADE.

ONE AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL 2006 ORDINANCE.

STIPULATED, IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

BUT 18 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT MORE THAN YOU'RE ORDINARILY ALLOWED IN MD ZONING. THE APPLICANT NOW WANTS THAT CHANGE TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING, BEING THE DEFAULT ZONING, AND STILL KEEP THE 18 UNITS PER ACRE.

AND AS I MENTIONED, THE REAL PRACTICAL IMPACT, ON ANY ONE GIVEN LOT, IF THE BASE DEFAULT CLASSIFICATION IS MD, YOU'RE LIMITED TO 4 DWELLING UNITS. THAT LIMITATION GOES AWAY IN

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MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING. >> SO ESSENTIALLY TRACK 5 OR TRACK 3, WILL WIND UP WITH THE S

SAME? >> YES

YES. >> EXCEPT THAT TRACK 3, WILL

ALSO ALLOW SELF-SERVICE STORAGE. >> YES.

>> AND IN TRACK 4, WE'RE PUTTING IN THE MD ZONING, WHICH WILL --

>> THAT IS CORRECT. THAT ACTUALLY IS THE SAME NOW.

MD ZONING, BUT NO MORE THAN TWO DWELLING UNITS ON ONE LOT.

IN OTHER WORDS, ONLY DUPLEXES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TOWN HOMES WILL BE ALLOWED. THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, LIMITED SINGLE FAMILY HOME CONSTRUCTION, TO RH STANDARDS.

THE APPLICANTS WOULD LIKE THAT CHANGED TO RX6 STANDARDS.

AND INCIDENTALLY, THE APPLICANT WANTS TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR SIDE AND REAR ENTRANCE GARAGES ONLY AND ALLOW, OF COURSE, FRONT FACING GARAGES. THAT IN A NUTSHELL ARE THE CHANGES TO THE CHANGE AND CONDITIONS OF PD-104, WHICH CITY

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVING. >> THIS IS ALL DAVID'S FAULT?

>> YES >> THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT WITH ME, BRAD. I GOT LOST.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRAD.

I'LL OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING >> YOU PASSED THAT THING.

>> I WAS NEW. THAT WAS MY FIRST YEAR.

>> >> DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING.

DAVID TODD, 42 CEDAR. TRACK 3, WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE, THE VERBIAGE TALKS ABOUT STORAGE UNIT.

THE MAP, SAYS SELF-STORAGE UNITS ARE MULTI-FAMILY OF 18 UNITS PER ACRE. THE VERBIAGE DIDN'T MATCH THE MAP. WHEN I BROUGHT IT IN, IT IS MAINLY FROM RX8, TO RX6. I TALKED TO BRAD.

HEY, LET'S GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON TRACK 3.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE DEAL WAS, THE VERBIAGE DIDN'T MATCH, THE MAP YOU PASSED IN '06. AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I WAS IN P & Z AT THE TIME, SO I'M A GUILTY PARTY ALSO.

THE MAIN CRUX WAS CHANGING THE RX6, RX8, RX6 AND ELIMINATING THE REAR GARAGE, BECAUSE THAT MAKES THE EXTRA D, EXTRA WIDE LOTS AND DUPLEXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT WAS THE MAIN CRUX, GOING FROM RX6, RX8.

WE GOT A LITTLE INTEREST IN THE AREA.

I TURNED IN YESTERDAY, ZONE CHANGE FOR THE CUTOUT IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER TO GO TO MD, WHICH YOU ALL HEAR NEXT MONTH.

WE HAVE A LITTLE INTEREST, TRYING TO TURN THE WHOLE THING INTO ONE DEVELOPMENT PACKAGE, WRAPPED AROUND THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, BY THE WAY, IS A HUD APPROVED UNITS IN THERE.

THERE WILL BE SOME TYPE OF ASSISTANCE IN THERE.

HAVING RX8 REAR ENTRY GARAGES DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, WHEN YOU HAVE ASSISTED HOUSING IN THERE. ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT. BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS. >> YOU THINK THAT'S IT, DAVID?

THANKS, DAVID. >>> ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ADDRESS

THE CASE? >> I WILL CLOSE TO PUBLIC HEARING. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT'S STRAIGHT NOW.

IT'S GETTING CONFUSED, BUT IT'S STRAIGHT.

WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I WILL APPROVE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND.

>> MR. BARNETT? >> YES.

>> MR. BRENHAM? >> YES.

>> MS. RUSSEL? >> YES.

>> MR. FLEMING? >> YES.

>> MRS. ROSENBAUM. >> THE MOTION CARRIES.

[SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS]

>> SPECIAL CONSIDERATION, PRESENTATION ON THE FINDINGS OF MAYOR'S ENTERTAINMENT TASK FORCE.

AND SHIRL WILL DO THAT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHERYL FLEMING, SERVICE MANAGER. AND IN LATE OF APRIL THIS YEAR, CITY COUNCIL CAME WITH A RESOLUTION, TO ESTABLISH THE MAYOR'S ENTERTAINMENT TASK FORCE, IN ORDER TO STUDY, AND TO

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CREATE A DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

THEY WERE CHARGED WITH TWO TASK, ALLOW PRESENCE OF ALCOHOL WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND THE SECOND, TO DEVELOP ANY LAND DEVELOPMENT, THAT WILL PROHIBIT PRIVATE DEVELOPERS EFFORTS TO REVITALIZE. AS PART OF THE THE RESOLUTION, ONE WAS MADE TO, ONE TO THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION AND THE OTHER TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS THE TASK FORCE FORGEAL PRESENTATION TO THE ZONING. THE MEETINGS, TOPICS OF DISCUSSION, FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND HERE ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE.

AND THE CHAIRMAN WAS APOINTED BY THE MAYOR.

THE TASK FORCE MET A TOTAL OF EIGHT TIMES AND HAD INTENSIVE LIST OF MATTERS, AND GUESTS IN ATTENDANCE AND SPOKE TO THE GROUP. THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE SLIDE.

MOST OF THE GUESTS CAME WITH INFORMATION THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE TASK FORCE SUCH AS INFORMATION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, TABC, ANYTHING THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS DISTRICT AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION. HERE'S SOME TOPICS THAT WAS DISCUSSED BY THE TASK FORCE. AS YOU COULD SEE, THERE'S MANY LAND USE AS WELL AS CONVERSATIONS THAT CENTERED AROUND THE USE OF ALCOHOL. HERE'S SOME FINDINGS FROM THE MEETINGS. IN THE CITY OF ABILENE, THERE'S NOT AN ORDINANCE, THAT REQUIRES AN ENFORCEMENT OF OPEN CONTAINERS. IN THE CITY OF ABILENE, YOU COULD HAVE AN OPEN CONTAINER OF ALCOHOL AND CONSUME IT.

TO INCLUDE THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND DISTRICT AREA.

THE THINGS THAT GOVERN THAT IS TEXAS ALCOHOL COMMISSION.

THEY REQUIRE PERMITS, FOR THE BUSINESSES TO SELL ALCOHOL.

AND MEANING, YOU COULD GO TO ANY CONVENIENCE STORE AND BE ABLE TO TAKE OUT THE ALCOHOL AND ONCE IT IS OFF THE PREMISE OF THEIR AREA, YOU COULD CONSUME THAT. REALLY, ANYWHERE YOU WANT TO.

HOWEVER, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ADDRESSES EXCESSIVE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, SUCH AS THE PUBLIC INTOXICATION, AS WELL AS STATE AND LOCAL LAWS AS WELL. ANOTHER FINDINGS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ENFORCE ANY ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY ENFORCING.

ANYTHING THAT A DISTRICT WOULD REQUIRE, ABILENE, SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CAPACITY TO ENFORCE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.

ANOTHER FIGHTING, NO REAL ISSUES, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SIDE. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT, DOESN'T RESTRICT DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN. A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WERE FOUND IN THE DISTRICT DOWNTOWN MEETING, IT HAD TO DO WITH REGULATIONS WITH CURRENT BILLING CODES, INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL BILLING CODE, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE MAY BE ABLE TO CHANGE.

OTHER FINDINGS, ARE THE BUSINESS OWN, FROM THE CITY WANTED THEM TO -- WANTED THE TASK FORCE TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF THE SCOPE OF THE TWO CHARGES THEY WERE GIVEN.

THOSE BEING PARKING, PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING AND STREAM LIGHT EVENT PROCESS. THERE'S A LARGE DESIRE IN THE GROUP TO ALSO PROMOTE THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND PROMOTE IT AS A FAMILY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT AS WELL.

WHEN WE HEARD FROM THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION AND HEARD FROM THE MEMBERS, THAT HAVE AN INVESTED INTEREST FROM THE BOUNDARIES THEY DISCUSSED, THEY DID DISCUSS THE NEED FOR EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATION IN THE CITY'S PART TO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS ABOUT EVENTS THAT MAY BE HAPPENING AND ANY OTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR, SUCH AS GRANTS AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THERE'S A DESIRE TO FLUSH OUT A FULL-TIME DOWNTOWN COORDINATOR OR CENTRAL POINT OF CONTRACT THAT WILL GO TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND DOWNTOWN. HERE'S A LIST OF FORMAL RECOMMENDATIONS MADE TO THE TASK FORCE.

AS YOU COULD SEE, THE VERY FIRST MEETING, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT POSSIBLE DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT AND CULTURAL DISTRICT WOULD BE TO DEFINE AS.

AND HE SAID, DEFINING WHAT IT MEANT.

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AND AS YOU COULD SEE, THEY WENT THROUGH SOME OTHER CONVERSATION.

AND THE GLASS BEF RAG CONTAINERS, WAS A POINT, IF THERE IS A DISTRICT BOUNDARY, THAT KIND OF THING, THEY DON'T WANT TO WALK AROUND WITH BEVERAGE CONTAINERS, CREATING GLASS ON THE STREETS OR IN THE PARKS.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION, THAT THE PARK BE ALLOWED INSIDE THE DISTRICT. CURRENTLY THE PARK REGULATIONS SAY, YOU CANNOT HAVE ALCOHOL THERE, UNLESS IN CERTAIN SPECIFIC PARKS. AND ALSO WITH A SPECIAL PERMIT, IN ORDER TO DO SO. FURTHERMORE, THE PARK HOURS TO BE AMENDED IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISIKT HAVE -- DISTRICT TO 2:00 A.M., WHICH IS IN PREPARATION FOR A DOWNTOWN HOTEL AND CONCERTS AND THINGS THAT MAY COME FROM THAT.

THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE NO FURTHER ACTION OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT TABC REGULATIONS AND STATE LAWS IN REGARDS TO OFF PREMISE ALCOHOL.

MEANING TAKE NO ACTION. WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY RULES AND RESIGNATION, THAT RESTRICT ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, OPEN CONTAINERS, ON ANY OTHER STREET IN ABILENE, AND THEREFORE, CRY EIGHTING THIS, AND ADDING TO THIS BOUNDARY, WILL MAKE IT HARDER FOR DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN DOWNTOWN.

THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION, TO AMEND THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT BOUNDARIES THAT WE HAVE. WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THIS MAP, WHICH IS THE CURRENT RECOMMENDED BOUNDARY BY THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT TASK FORCE.

THIS, AND I'LL KIND OF GO OVER IT QUICKLY.

IT STARTS TO THE NORTH, PAST THE CONVENTION CENTER.

THAT PARKING LOT ON NORTH 8, EXTENDS TO THE WEST, THROUGH THE ALLEY, BETWEEN ORANGE AND HICKORY STREET.

CROSSES OVER NORTH 1ST AND CONTINUES TO SOUTH FIRST INTO SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN THROUGH THE ALLEYWAYS AND ENDS IN SOUTH 4TH AND COMES BACK UP CHERRY STREET AND GRABS THE ENTIRE SITE ON FRONTIERE TEXAS AND CONTINUES THROUGH ASH STREET AND TO NORTH 6. THE PRINTED COPIES ARE FOR YOUR REFERENCE. IN CONCLUSION, THEY DID MEET WITH THE RESOLUTION AND HAS FURTHER RECOMMENDATION TO ENCOURAGE A FUTURE COMMITTEE OR GROUP TO FOCUS ON THIS SAFETY, SANITATION, ART AND CULTURE AND FRIENDLY -- FAMILY FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE THAT THEY OUTLINED IN ONE OF THEIR MEETING.

AND YOU DID RECEIVE THE MEETINGS WITH YOUR MEETING MINUTES WITHIN YOUR PACTS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE AT THIS TIME.

>> WHAT WAS THE DISCUSSION LIKE AROUND THE DOWNTOWN COORDINATOR? BECAUSE WE HAD ONE A FEW YEARS AGO THAT WAS FUNDED FOR TWO YOORS. WHEN THE FUNDED ENDED, THAT POSITION WENT AWAY? WHAT WAS THE DISCUSSION LIKE AROUND THAT? IS THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION, LOOKING TO FILL THAT POSITION THROUGH THEIR OWN FUNDING OR DO THEY WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO FUND THAT?

>> THE CONVERSATION WAS IN TERMS OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT HAPPENED DOWNTOWN. THE CONVERSATION REALLY, CENTERED AROUND THE FACT, THERE WERE EVENTS THAT WILL COME TO DOWNTOWN, THAT OTHER DOWNTOWN OWNERS DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE ACTUALLY HAPPENING. THEY WANTED TO STREAMLINE PROCESS WITH THE CITY TO CREATE SOME OF THE EVENTS MUCH THE DISCUSSION KIND OF LENDED TO THE FACT, THERE REALLY DOES NEED TO BE SOMEONE WHO IS FOCUSED ON UTILIZING THE 2ND, 3RD AND DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE WE'RE THAT LIMITS SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS. REALLY, IT WAS MORE OF A CONVERSATION, ABOUT SH WHO IS OUR BELLY BUTTON TO THE CITY,IT WHATTING THROUGH THE REGULATIONS AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO, IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS OF A THRIVING AREA. THE POSITION THAT WAS FUNDED BEFORE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE CHAMBER.

AND WHENEVER THE POSITION, WHEN THAT PERSON LEFT THE POSITION, THEY DID NOT RENEW THAT OR PUT THAT BACK OUT THERE.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE, IF -- ALEX IS THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION, SO SHE MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS.

AND WHEN WE MET, IT'S A DESIRE OF THEIRS.

HOW DO WE FIGURE IT OUT INTO A REALITY.

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I DON'T THINK THE FUNDING OF THE POSITION, IS REALLY A CONVERSATION. HOW DO WE GET THE POSITION HIRED? I DON'T THINK IT WENT THAT FAR.

I THINK IT WAS, WE NEED THE POSITION BACK AND THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE WANT THE POSITION TO DO THAT WE'RE NOT OUTLINED, WHENEVER THE CITY IS WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE.

>> THEY GOT FRUSTRATED AND FOCUSING IT ON THE ALCOHOL NEEDS. AND JESSE, AND -- WE WERE MORE CONCERNED ON WHAT WE NEED. AND ESPECIALLY WITH SAFETY CONCERNS, AMANDA HAD PUT A KILLER BIG DAY, AND SHE WAS IN VIOLATION OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND HAD NO IDEA.

THERE WAS NOT A DIRECT LINE TO THE CITY.

AND THE WORD IS WE WANT THE CITY TO HAVE BIG FESTIVALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO A FEW WIDE BLOCK EVENT.

WE TRIED TO SHIFT IT TO JUST THE ALCOHOL PIECE AND MOVE IT TOWARDS THE SAFETY CONCERNS, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALCOHOL AT THE TIME. THE TRASH PICK UPS, PUBLIC REST ROOMS, WE WANT PEOPLE COMING DOWNTOWN AND SPENDING MONEY.

AND THE CONVERSATIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION RIGHT NOW ARE, HOW COULD WE PRIVATELY FUND SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE GONE ANY FURTHER.

>> THANK YOU. >> WHERE DOES THIS GO NEXT? ARE THEY EVENTUALLY GOING TO APPROVE THE LINE?

>> RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST FOR DISCUSSION.

IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THIS, MOVING FORWARD, WE CAN DO THAT. IT'S NOT REALLY FOR ANY TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THE RESOLUTION DIDN'T CALL OUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S ROLE IS. JUST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTED THE CITY COMMISSION TO HEAR THE FINDINGS FOR THE TRAS BEING FORCE. WE WILL PUT IT ON A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE COUNCIL TO HEAR THE EXACT SAME FINDINGS, ASSUMING THAT COUNCIL WILL GIVE STAFF SOME TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION, TO EITHER GO BACK, 9 RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE. I KNOW TWO OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE TO GO TO. AND

>> THE ALCOHOL AND THE HOURS. BOTH ANYTHING THAT HAS.

IT GOES TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL BEFORE IT COULD COME TO CITY COUNCIL. ESSENTIALLY, I GUESS, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S REALLY UP TO CITY COUNCIL, WITH WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. WITH IN TASK FORCE OR ANY FUTURE TASK FORCE, I THINK THE INTENT WAS TO FIND OUT IF THE CITY OF ABILENE, ACTUALLY HAD TO ADOPT A DISTRICT, TO ALLOW FOR BETTER REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN THROUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES. IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO THAT JUST SPECIFICALLY APPLIED TO DOWNTOWN, SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN, FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT? ALSO, OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS HAVE ORDINANCES THAT LIMIT OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION OPEN CONTAINERS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT AND THEREFORE, DOING ANYTHING EXTRA WITH ALCOHOL ACTUALLY COULD CAUSE YOU TO SAY, OKAY, ONE STREET OVER, I WILL HAVE THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT, WHEREAS DOWNTOWN WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT, SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN, IF THAT WAS CREATED.

THAT'S PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE BOARD.

I'M SORRY, THE TASK FORCE. >> AS THE TASK FORCE COMPLETED

ITS WORK >> THIS IS THE COMPLETION.

THE COMPLETION OF THE TASK FORCE WORK WILL HAPPEN AT THE END OF THE COUNCIL MEETING. THAT WILL MEET THE CHARMS OF THE RESOLUTION, AT THAT POINT IN TIME? THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE HERE.

IF YOU WANTED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, FOR THEM, TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THEM, YOU COULD DO THAT AS WELL.

>> I COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT, IF THEY ARE HERE.

>> THEY ARE. THEY ARE HERE.

>> THANKS. >> I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WOULD ANY MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND

VISIT WITH US? >> SURE.

>> HI, MY NAME IS MANDY SCHUMANN.

I'M PART OF THE TASK FORCE. I WORK FOR TAYLOR ALINES,

PREVENTION COUNCIL >> THANK YOU, TAYLOR, THANKS FOR

COMING UP. >> AND AS A TASK FORCE MEMBER, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, TO LOOK HOW THEY WOULD LOOK.

WE NEVER ONCE CONSIDERED IT THESE TYPES OF ACCESS FOR

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ALCOHOL AND ISSUES. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, TO THINK CLEARLY ON THE RAMIFICATIONS, TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNSEL. IT'S MY GOAL TO SEE A VIBRANT, SAFE AND DOWNTOWN AREA. AS WE GROW AND PROSPER, IT'S IMPORTANT TO INSURE OUR CITY IS APPEALING TO A DIVERSE SET OF PEOPLE, WHO WILL WORK, LIVE IN THE AREA AND COMMUNITY.

I LOOK THROUGH THE PUBLIC LENS, WHICH INCLUDES ALCOHOL BUT IS NOT DOMINATED BY ALCOHOL. ABILENE IS GROWING AND HAS A POPULATION OF 129,000. IT PROMOTING A BASE.

AND 13,000 PERSONNEL, COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES AND HOUSING MORE THAN 8,000 STUDENTS. AS THE VIBRANT COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GROW, IT BRINGS WELCOME CHANGES AND OPPORTUNITIES TO STRENGTHEN OUR BUSINESS, ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL HEALTH. ALONGSIDE THE GROWTH THOUGH, IT IS CRITICAL TO CONSIDER THE CITY'S PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO CHANGES THAT EXPAND THE ACCESS TO ALCOHOL. CREATING THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ACCESS, MEANS IT'S EASIER FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO GET THEIR HANDS ON IT. IN 2020, THE TEXAS SCHOOL SURVEY, ALMOST 47 PERCENT OF 7TH TO 12TH GRADERS, ALCOHOL IS EASY TO GET. AND 65 PERCENT OF THE STUDENTS SAY UNDERAGE DRINKING IS A PROBLEM ON THEIR CAMPUS.

57 PERCENT SAID, BINGE DRINKING IS A PROBLEM.

ACCORDING TO THE DATA, IMPAIRED DRIVING TASK FORCE, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, ABILENE IS THE 7TH MOST CITY IN THE STATE, WITH SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES.

AS OUR POPULATION DISBUSINESS GROWS, WE MUST DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO INSURE STRATEGIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ADDRESS THE THINGS. OUR RECOMMENDATION, TO REINVEST IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND ELEVATE THE ECONOMY, BY CREATING AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WITH GUIDELINES, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND DEVELOPING AN ENFORCING PRACTICES, TO PREVENT THE OVEROF OF ALCOHOL MUCH AND WHILE WE SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, WE MUST BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT, HIGH CONCENTRATION OF ALCOHOL OUTLETSEN O ANY GIVEN AREA, COULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ALCHOL-RELATED ISSUES.

>> AND ALCOHOL RELATED CRASHES, PED DES STRAJ AND IN ABILENE AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. WHAT'S OVERSERVICE ENFORCEMENT.

OVERSERVICE, WORKING WITH ALCOHOL BEVERAGE, TO FOSTER AWARENESS, TO TRAIN THE OWNERS, MANAGERS AND STAFF REGARDING THE LAWS. WE WANT TO HELP BUILD RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE OWNERS, MANAGERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT JUST TO INSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO ABILENE? IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY WHERE MULTIPLE BARS ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY MAKING IT EASIER TO BAR HOP.

THEY WILL PROMOTE SAFETY AND OUTSIDE OF THE BARS.

PARTNERING WITH TABC TO. ALONG WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT,

WHEN HANDLING THE COMPLAINTS. >> ALCOHOL DENSITY IS DEFINED AS THE NUMBER OF PHYSICAL LOCATION, IN WHICH ALCOHOL BEVERAGES IS AVAILABLE PER AREA OR POP POPULATION.

WE ENCOURAGE CONTINUED WORK ON HOW THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT SHOULD LOOK, INCLUDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OUTLET, SAFETY MEASURES AND CULTURAL ADDITIONS ALL TO CREATE FUN AND FAMILY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT. I KIND OF AGREE WITH ALEX.

TO ME, THE PRESENTATION, YOU JUST WENT THROUGH, SPOKE TO ALCOHOL QUITE A BIT. AND I WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

I'M ON, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC REST ROOMS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THOSE KIND OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, THE TRASH AND GENERALLY THE BUSINESSES KNOWING WHAT'S

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GOING ONFUL LIKE SHELLY SAID A BELLY BUTTON TO THE CITY TO HAVE SOME KIND OF COORDINATION. I WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

HOW WILL THAT FIT TO A VIBRANT AND GROWING -- ALCOHOL IS A PIECE OF THAT. I THINK THERE'S A BIGGER PIECE, AS TO HOTEL, AND THE AM OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE OUT THERE, ACCESS TO PUBLIC REST ROOMS --. PARKING AND REST ROOMS. AND I WAS JUST WALKING ON THURSDAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY AT 2:00 P.M., TWO 27-YEAR-OLDS WERE URINATING IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESSES. WHERE IS THE ENFORCEMENT IN THAT? AND THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN, DEAL WITH THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEY'VE BEEN ON A VIGILANTE MODE FOR THEMSELVES FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

I AGREE. WHERE'S THE PUBLIC BATHROOMS? WHERE'S THE PARKING? I AGREE WITH THE STREAMLINE PROCESS FOR SOMEONE WHO WILL TAKE THE EVENTS AND BE THERE FOR OUR BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN. I AGREE WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE THINGS. AND WE WERE MANDATED FOR A YEAR PROCESS FOR THIS TO GO ON. IT HASN'T BEEN A YEAR, THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DISCUSS THESE THINGS.

>> MANDY, I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THEY ARE LABORIOUS. AND I AM INTERESTED IF YOU HAVE ANY DATA FOR PUBLIC DRINKING INTOKSTATION.

>> WE HAVE OUR DATA PERSON HERE NOW.

SHE WOULD LOVE TO GIVE THE DATA. >> SHE'S NOT OBVIOUSLY PREPARED TO PREPARE. I HAVE INFORMATION THAT I COULD OBTAIN. WAYS NOT PREPARED SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK NUMBERS THAT I DON'T HAVE VERIFIED.

>> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE TASK FORCE.

I HEARD THE FIGURES MS. SCHUMANN GAVE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. I AGREE, WITH EVERYTHING THERE.

I CONTINUE TO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS TO DO WITH OUR AREA.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS BUSINESSES WERE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB, AMIDST EVERYTHING ELSE, CONSTANTLY IDING KIDS, CAN YOUING PEOPLE OFF AND PUTTING OUR YOUNG STAFF UNDER INCREDIBLE PRESSURE TO CUT DRUNK PEOPLE OFF BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IS SAFE FOR THEM IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WHILE I APPRECIATE THE FIGURES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

AGAIN, TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON ALCOHOL, WHEN I THINK THAT'S NOT THE MAIN PIECE BUT I WOULD LIKE NUMBERS AND DATA THAT PERTAIN TO

THE AREA. >> I THINK A LOT OF THE THINGS.

>> I THINK A LOT OF THE THINGS GO HAND IN HAND.

I JUST HEARD TO SUPPORT MANDY, WITH HER PRESENTATION TODAY.

I THINK A LOT OF THE THINGS, GO HAND IN HAND.

WHEN IT COMES TO TRASH, PUBLIC BATHROOMS, THEY GO HAND IN HAND, WITH OVERSERVICE OF ALCOHOL AND MULTIPLE ALCOHOL DENSITY LOCATION. THE MORE ALCOHOL THAT FLOWS, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE MORE TRASH ON THE GROUND.

YOU COULD HAVE MORE VIOLENCE IN BATHROOMS, MORE DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY. WE WANT TO HAVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, KIND OF THOUGHT THROUGH, TO HAVE THE BEST RECOMMENDATION FOR THE DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

WE'RE EXCITED WITH THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

WE WANT TO, TO BRAND THIS AREA AND BE ABLE TO USE IT IN TOURISM AND BRING MORE PEOPLE, BRING MORE CONVENTIONS WHEN THE CONVENTIONS, THE HOTEL IS BUILT. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE THINGS GROW. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY IS CONSIDERED AT THE SAME TIME.

>> I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD FOCUS ON NONALCHOL-RELATED ISSUES. YOU MENTIONED ALCHOL-RELATED SALES DOWNTOWN, COULD CREATE MORE TRASH.

I THINK TO GO FOOD WILL CREATE MORE TRASH WITH THE CONTAINERS, WITH NAPKINS, UTENSILS. THERE'S MORE INVOLVED IN THAT THAN ALCOHOL SALES. I HOPE YOU'RE CONSIDERING A LOT

MORE. >> I AGREE WITH YOU.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER.

WE HAVE THOSE TWO MAIN AREAS, THAT WE WERE TASK TO DO.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO CONTINUE, AND TO GET TO THE DETAILS, WE WERE NOT TASKED TO CONSIDER DURING THIS TIME.

>> ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO VISIT WITH US.

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MANDY, THANK YOU. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT THING. I HOPE THE COUNCIL ENTERTAINS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? IS THAT ALL ON MY AGENDA?

I GET TO CLOSE THE MEETING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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