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>> CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER IT IS 9:00 A.M. ON THIS MORNING.

[CALL TO ORDER]

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COUNCILMEMBER MCCALLISTER TO PROVIDE THE CONVOCATION AND SPECIAL GUESTS TO JOIN ME FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO BLESS IT IN A

SECOND. >> LET'S PRAY.

DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ARE SO THANKFUL TO BE HERE THIS MORNING IN THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US TO COME TOGETHER.

GOD WE PRAY YOU WILL BE WITH US TODAY AS WE MAKE DECISIONS AND BEGIN THE PROCESS MAKING DECISIONS HOW BEST TO SERVE THIS CITY. THIS GREAT CITY WE HAVE.

I PRAY YOU HELP US TO HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING AND GOOD DISCUSSION. DEAR GOD WE THANK YOU EVERYDAY FOR THE FOLKS THAT SERVE THE CITY SO TIRELESSLY.

WE HONORED THEM YESTERDAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT STATE, THIS GREAT COUNTRY AND FREEDOMS WE HAVE.

I ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR CITY AND COUNTRY AND PRAY

FOR RAIN. >> KAY LYNN RICHARDSON AND HER WORK ARE TOP 20 UNDER 40. MICHELLE ATKINSON.

THESE ARE SOPHIA AND WE HAVE JACKSON AND WE HAVE PARKER.

THEY ARE GOING TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES ON TODAY.

ARE Y'ALL EXCITED? THEY ARE THE BULLDOGS, WHAT

GREAT? >> FIFTH, FOURTH, AND KINDERGARTEN. ALL RIGHT.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> NOW THE TEXAS FLAG. >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE AND

INDIVISIBLE. >> AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

[APPLAUSE] AND A FOLLOW UP.

THIS IS A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION.

DO WE LOOK GOOD HERE? I AM GOING TO ASKING ROBERT HANNA TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT TODAY WILL LOOK LIKE DURING OUR RETREAT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC HEARING LICK COMMENT.

THEN WE WILL BEGIN CITY PROCESS ON TODAY.

>> MAYOR, HAPPY TO DO SO. QUICK REVIEW OF THE AGENDA.

COUNCIL PRIORITIES AND GO THROUGH THE AGENDA OF THE DAY.

WE HAVE TOPICS TO TALK ABOUT IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH STREET MAINTENANCE AND POTENTIAL BOND ELECTION. WHAT MIGHT BE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO A POTENTIAL BOND.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED DIRECTION IS HOW WE WANT TO GO ABOUT THAT PROCESS. AS WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION, WE HAVE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IN MY OPINION TAX CONSTRAINTS WHEN IT COMES TO A BOND AND DOLLAR AMOUNTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

WE NEED GUIDANCE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SYSTEM RESILIENCY. TOUCH UPON OUR ANIMAL SERVICES.

INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND GO THROUGH ADMIN OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. DISCUSS GENERAL OPERATIONS OF THE CITY, CHARTER AMENDMENTS, FINANCIAL OVERVIEW.

I THINK ON FRONT LOT UTILITIES, REQUEST FROM EAP TO CONSIDER PUTTING UTILITIES IN FRONT LOTS. PROS AND CONS.

NOT ASKING COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION RATHER SOMETHING YOU

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WANT TO TALK ABOUT. COUNCIL TO SET THE TONE FOR THE ORGANIZATION LOOKING FORWARD NEXT 12, 24, 36 MONTES.

WHOLE POINT IS TO GET A FEEL HOW THEY WANT THE ORGANIZATION AND COMMUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD. I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS

DISCUSSION IN EARNEST. >> THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE PUBLIC COMMENT IN REGARDS TO THE PRESENTATION.

WE THOUGHT IT WISE TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITIZENS ANYTHING THEY WANTED US TO KNOW ABOUT.

COUNCILMEMBER HURT IS GOING TO PROVIDE BECAUSE OF OUR CONFIGURATION, HE IS GOING TO NAVIGATE AND ALLOW OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC TO CONTINUE. WE'LL MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

PERIOD. REMINDER, NO VOTES OR ACTIONS TAKEN. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ONLY ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PRESENT IDEAS AND INFORMATION TO CITY AND OFFICIALS AN STAFF. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO CARDS.

>> TWO CARDS, FIRST IS DAVID SWARTD.

>> GOOD MORNING, THIS IS DAVID SWART FOR THE RECORD.

I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO MY INPUT.

WELL WE ARE HERE AGAIN. ANOTHER YEAR GONE BY AND EVERYTHING. ON THE AGENDA, ABOUT STREETS.

YOU YOU ADMITTED MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS, 30 YEARS IN THE HOLE.

GENERATION AND A HALF BASICALLY BEHIND IN MAINTENANCE.

I SAID IN 2016, 377 MILLION. I SAID BITE THE BULLET, BORROW IT ALL. SPREAD IT OUT OVER 40-50 YEARS.

WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW WE ARE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE.

THE PRESENTATION FROM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO SHOWS THAT EVEN WHAT WE ARE DOING WE ARE STILL GOING IN THE HOLE JUST LIKE THE TITANIC, I SAID IT. WE ARE GOING DOWN BY THE HEAD.

WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY PROGRESS. AS FAR AS THE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE, LIKE I SAID INFLATION KILLING EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T SEE WE CAN INCREASE IT AT ALL.

ON ANOTHER NOTE HERE, ON THE AGENDA.

YOU HAVE ANIMAL CENTER. I AM IN FAVOR OF A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR ADOPTION CENTER LIKE THEY PRESENTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND HOPE IT COMES TO PASS NEXT YEAR OR TWO WITH THE HELP LIKE I SAID THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

WE HAVE HERE ON THE BOND SECTION, ABOUT STATION NO. 9 PROPOSED OUT SOME WHERE AROUND LAKE KER BY.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD LOCATION.

ALSO WE NEED FIRE SERVICE OUT THERE LIKE THE CHIEF SAID.

FROM STATION 2 OR 8 WAY OUT - THERE.

I WOULD HOPE TO SEE SOME DAY AT THAT STATION, ENGINE COMPANY, MEDIC TRUCK AND BRUSH TRUCK. I KNOW IT IS ALL ABOUT SALARIES AND AT LEAST 12 NEW FIREFIGHTER TO MAN THAT STATION.

MAYBE SOME WAY IN THE BUDGET 2023, WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING DOESN'T START INSTANTLY. IT WOULD BE 2023 BEFORE YOU WOULD HAVE SALARIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT NEW FIRE STATION.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE ON THIS MORNING ON YOUR BUDGET RETREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO MY INPUT.

>> THANK YOU, DAVID. BOB THOMAS.

>> USUALLY I DON'T NEED THIS AS MAYOR WILLIAMS SO ELOQUENTLY STATED. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE PRIORITIES ARE SET BY THE SHAREHOLDERS. WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MOST IMPORTANTLY IS COMMUNITY. I LOOK ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE CARE AND AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT COMING BACK INTO THESE CITIES.

WE NEED TO REMEMBER THIS MONEY BELONGS TO THE SHAREHOLDERS.

LET'S BE FEE DISHES. WE HAD TO TAKE IT FROM SOME WHERE TO BE REIMBURSED. SECOND THING I WOULD LIKE TO

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TALK ABOUT IS OUR STREETS. OF COURSE THIS IS CATCHING A LOT OF PEOPLE'S ATTENTION AND SHOULD.

WHO WITH THE SLIGHTEST AMOUNT OF ENGINEERING BACKGROUND DID NOT SEE A DECLINE COMING IN OUR CITY STREETS.

KEY PROJECTS VERY IMPORTANT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

YET WE HAD TO BE PHYSICALLY CONSERVATIVE TO GET WHAT WE DID VOTED FOR AND APPROVED AND DONE. I BELIEVE WE NEED -- WE HAVE BEEN THROWING 11 TIMES MORE MONEY AT THE CITY STREETS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. I BELIEVE WE SEE IMPROVEMENTS.

IN CERTAIN AREAS, OUR PHILOSOPHY, ACTUALLY, OUR PHILOSOPHY NEEDS TO CHANGE ON THAT THERE.

WE HAD A BLUEPRINT. THAT IS ANOTHER THING ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. I KNOW THEY CAME FROM THE NORTH-SOUTH NICE RIVALRY. TIME COME FOR THAT TO END.

WE NEED TO PULL TOGETHER AS SHAREHOLDERS IN ONE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE ON PUBLIC COMMENT HERE THIS MORNING. SEEING NONE I WILL CLOSE THE

[2. Review of Council Priorities]

PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TIME FOR US. THIS COUNCIL, THIS BODY, WE ARE THE POLICY MAKERS. AND THE PURPOSE OF OUR GATHERING TODAY, THE ADMINISTRATION RESPONDING TO THEIR DISCERNMENT IN REGARDS TO WHAT THE COUNCIL PROVIDED DIRECTIVES TO.

WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS SEVERAL OUTLINED BY THE CITY MANAGER.

THIS WILL GIVE DIRECTION FOR WORK THAT WILL OCCUR IN THE SPRING AND PREPARATION FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOP THAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN MID JULY. TODAY, COUNCIL, POLICY MAKERS IDENTIFYING PARAMETERS AND EXPECTATIONS.

CITY ADMINISTRATION RESPONDING TO WHAT THEY WILL GATHER TODAY AND BE FORMALIZED IN BUDGET WORKSHOP IN JULY.

LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION TODAY MR. HANNA.

AND EXPECT VERY LIVELY INTERACTION WITH THE COUNCIL.

APPRECIATE THE E-MAILS, TEXT, EVEN COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INPUT. MR. HANNA?

>> THANK YOU MAYOR, AND COUNCIL. I ALWAYS LIKE TO START OFF WITH REVIEW OF CORE VALUES AND MISSION STATEMENT.

I WON'T READ THESE TO YOU. I WANT TO UNDERSCORE OUR CORE VALUES, RESPECT, INTEGRITY, SERVICE ABOVE SELF AND EXCELLENCE IN ALL WE DO. THESE ARE THINGS WE INSTILL IN THE WORK FORCE, HOPEFULLY ON A DAILY BASIS.

CERTAINLY REGULARLY. IT IS SOMETHING WE HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO. AND DIRECTOR TEAM WILL TELL YOU, MINDY AND MICHAEL WILL TELL YOU THOSE THAT EXIT TODAY ORGANIZATION MORE OFTEN EXITED ORGANIZATION FOR BREECH AND CORE VALUES THAN ANYTHING ELSE. SOME THINGS THAT ARE TEACHABLE MOMENTS. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T. ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, WE WERE GOING THROUGH A MEET AND GREET, JUST A GENERAL DISCUSSION.

I TRY TO MEET WITH EVERYBODY AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR.

ALL THE EMPLOYEES, ALL 1500 ONCE A YEAR.

THIS IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATION TO TALK.

WE WERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

THIS GENTLEMAN SAID I HOPE EVERYBODY WE HIRED, CAN'T TEACH THESE THINGS THEY WOULD ALREADY HAVE THEM.

ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, I AGREE. I WOULD HOPE EVERYBODY WOULD.

I HAVE FOUND UNFORTUNATELY SOMETIMES IT IS NOT THE CASE.

THESE ARE SKILLS WE ARE NOT IN OUR HEARTS ANYMORE.

AS A COMMUNITY. WHEN WE HIRE PEOPLE IT IS IMPORTANT WE HIRE FOR THE HEART. WE CAN TEACH SKILL SETS.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE VALUES WE HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO.

ALSO OUR MISSION STATEMENT. WE WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN COMMUNITY, HIGHEST QUALITY FOR PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE WORKED ON AND AMENDED 5-6 YEARS AGO. I ANT MAKE SURE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHERE COUNCIL IS HEADING. SO WHAT SAY Y'ALL?

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD.

GOOD. COUNCIL PRIORITIES INFILL DEVELOPMENT, DOWNTOWN HOTEL. EFFICIENT AND COST EFFECTIVE

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GOVERNMENT. PLAN TO ADDRESS THEM AND STREET MAINTENANCE. ONE OF THESE THAT COULD BE TWEAKED DOWNTOWN HOTEL. WE HAVE THAT LAUNCHED.

COULD BE A BIF VOT TO DOWNTOWN IN GENERAL.

>> REASON IT WAS MENTIONED PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT STUDY.

I WOULD HAVE CONSIDERATION FOR ENVIRONMENT THAT A LOTS THAT INTO THE DOWNTOWN. ANSWERS QUESTIONS TO THE SURVEY.

10 DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES. 49 DIFFERENT POINTS.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS NO. 6. I WOULD GIVE CONSIDERATION FOR AN ENVIRONMENT THAT CAN BE WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN LARGE CONVERSATION ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN ABILENE.

>> THERE WERE TIMES I THOUGHT WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO TAKE THE WORD HOTEL OFF THAT. IT WAS HAPPENING.

THAT IS GREAT. AS WE MENTIONED TENDER LOVING CARE. AFTER WE TAKE CARE OF DOWNTOWN HOTEL, WE LOOK AT OTHER TUNS FOR THAT.

THAT TIES INTO SOME OF THE NO. 1, INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

MAYBE COMBINING THOSE IN SOME WAY.

I DON'T EVER WANT TO NOT BE FOCUSSING ON DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS A VITAL PART.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT INVESTED A LOT IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE INVESTED IN THAT AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE

INVESTMENT DOWNTOWN. >> I HEAR INTEREST PIVOTING

HOTEL TO DOWNTOWN IN GENERAL? >> IN REGARDS INFILL OR REDEVELOPMENT. I THINK WE WITNESSED THE LAST FOUR DECADES, GROWTH SOUTH OF CITY CENTER.

EVEN OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT, WE IDENTIFIED A DECADE AGO THERE EXISTED 320 ACRES.

STRATEGY FOR INFILL PROVIDING OPPORTUNITY TO INCENTIVIZE INVESTMENT. IT MAYBE THE MOST POWERFUL TOOL THAT COULD HELP BRING BACK TO LIFE SOME OF THE NORTHERN PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK THE DOWNTOWN HOTEL, BECAUSE OF JUST GEOGRAPHY, TYING BACK WITH INFILL, TO PROVIDE

INVESTMENT IN ABILENE. >> FURTHER COMMENTS?

>> DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT?

>> I THINK DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT BETTER TERM, SPECIFICALLY. I THINK THE FACADE PROGRAM AND YOUR ENGAGEMENT WITH DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION I HAVE HEARD VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK COUNCIL FROM THAT GROUP.

I KNOW YOU RECEIVED SIMILAR CONVERSATIONS AND FEEDBACK FROM THE DOWNTOWN. THEY APPRECIATE THINGS WE HAVE DONE IN REGARDS TO PRIVATE-PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP INCENTIVISING. SOMEONE HAS TO OWN DOWNTOWN THERE HAS TO BE SOMEBODY'S JOB TO COORDINATE AND LEVERAGING RESOURCES PRESENT. THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND CITY OF ABILENE TALKED ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT BE DONE.

ONE OF THEM IS A STRATEGY THAT FOCUSES ON FOUR POINTS OF MAIN STREET PROGRAM THERE ARE TIME PROVEN TECHNIQUES.

YOU WILL HEAR PROBABLY AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, OPPORTUNITY TO PUT MONEY INTO THAT CONCEPT IN A POSITION THAT

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WILL HELP COORDINATE BUSINESSES, HELP MERCHANT ASSOCIATION AND A SHARED PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY.

THAT WILL COME TO COUNCIL THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

>> TEXAS MAIN STREET IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IT IS REALLY, IT IS MERCHANT DRIVEN. EVERY DOWNTOWN MAIN STREET HAS BUSINESSES. THE INTENT -- TO LEVERAGE THEIR STRENGTHSES TO OFFSET WEAKNESSES.

PART MARKETING, PART ADVOCACY. PART HAVING A MEMBER THAT HELPS BUSINESS COMMUNITY SO THE CITY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK EVERYBODY ALWAYS STRUGGLES WITH IS I WANT TO START A BUSINESS IN DOWNTOWN, I WANT TO BE PART OF THAT ENERGY.

I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE, CAN'T BE THAT HARD.

I AM GOING TO REMODEL MY OWN BUILDING.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES. I AM GOING TO REFURBISH THIS THING ON MY OWN. I HAVE YET TO MEET A PERSON WHO HAS NOT LEARNED A WHOLE LOT OF THAT PROCESS AND WISH I HIRED A GENERAL CONTRACTOR TO HELP ME THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

HAVING A PERSON THERE TO HELP EDUCATE AND HOLD HAND THAT POSITION WE TALKED ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO.

COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY. WE CAN STILL USE THE TOOLS TO BE SUCCESS. .

IT IS THE PLANS, PROGRAM IS THE IMPORTANT PART, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT FELT LIKE MORE SYNERGY TO COME ACROSS. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DID THAT. I KNOW YOU WERE THERE.

THAT HAS ALWAYS STUCK IN MY MIND THERE WAS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REVITALIZE WHETHER IT IS ONE MAIN STREET OR JUST AN AREA.

>> SO DENISON IS A MAIN STREET COMMUNITY.

PROCESS THEY ADOPTED BEFORE I ARRIVED.

WE REINVIGORATED. THE MAIN STREET DIRECTOR IS PHENOMENAL INDIVIDUAL. I HAVE ASKED HER TO COME TO ABILENE. HER HUSBAND IS A RETIRED FIREFIGHTER OUT OF OKLAHOMA AND WON'T LEAVE HIS RANCH.

SHE WON'T COME EITHER. IT IS WHAT IT IS.

SHE IS INCREDIBLE EMPLOYEE AND GREAT JOB AND GOOD LEADER.

THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT DO WELL IN THE FORMAL PROGRAM OR OUTSIDE OF IT. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS IS POTENTIALLY COMING TO YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> OWN INFILL DEVELOPMENT, I DON'T THINK WE DID A BAD JOB, WE DID GO TO DENISON. [INAUDIBLE] IT IS ACTUALLY HARDER. YOU HAVE TO CONVINCE PEOPLE.

I AM HAPPY TO SHARE THE BLUE PRINTED.

[3. Street Maintenance]

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I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT STREET MAINTENANCE AND PUBLIC WORKS TEAM. EXPENDED 26 MILLION DOLLARS SINCE IT IS IMPLEMENTED FOUR YEARS OF WORK.

EIGHT AND A HALF MILLION FROM DCOA.

ANOTHER 24.3 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT IS 104.7 MILLION DOLLARS ON STREETS IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. DONE 112.9 MILES.

THIS IS OF KEY IMPORTANCE. FISCAL YEAR 2016, WE BUDGETED $598,000 FOR STREET MAINTENANCE. THAT WAS HALF THE SIZE OR LESS THAN THE CITY OF DENISON'S BUDGET WHICH IS A TOWN PIN.COM PAIRED TO THE SIZE OF THE CITY OF ABILENE.

THAT IS HOW MUCH MONEY WE ARE SPENDING ON MAINTENANCE.

FISCAL YEAR 22 BECAUSE OF THE STREET MAINTENANCE VIE, 9.3 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT IS JUST THE MONEY SPENDING ON STREETS. I AM PROUD ON THAT.

HAD WE NOT DONE THE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE 1.5.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN 9.3. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COMMUNITY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND AND BE PROUD TO ACCOMPLISH.

THERE IS A LOT MORE TO DO -- [INAUDIBLE] STREET MAINTENANCE FEE HAS BEEN COLLECTED OVER THE YEARS, DCOA DOLLARS ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY COMES FROM COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. THERE IS A SMALL PORTION THAT COMES FROM THE UNIVERSITIES. THERE IS AN EVEN SMALLER PORTION THAT COMES FROM GENERAL FUND TRANSFER.

THAT IS THE MAKE UP OF THE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE.

IN A MEMORANDUM AUGUST 2017, WE SET FORWARD A PLAN THAT WOULD PROVIDE 10.2 MILLION DOLLARS IN STREET MAINTENANCE.

ON ANNUAL BASIS THAT WOULD BEGIN NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

PLANS IDENTIFY THE TABLE BELOW. IT IS A CONTRIBUTION, DEBT ROLLED OUT INTO STREET MAINTENANCE.

MONEY FROM TYPE AN AND MONEY FUND BUDGET TRANSFERS.

MONEYS TRANSFERRED FROM GENERAL FUND TO STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. YOU HAVE A TOTAL FUNDING SOLUTION. SO SEVERAL KEY ELEMENTS.

FIRST, WE DIDN'T RAISE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE FISCAL YEAR, 2020 BY $2 RESIDENTIAL AND 20 BUCKS COMMERCIAL RATES.

WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PANDEMIC.

DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE, A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY.

THEY FELT IT WASN'T THE RIGHT TIME.

AVALON TAX DOLLARS WE USED TO FUND STREETS WE DID IT THROUGH DEBT SERVICE. EAST NORTH 10TH, GRIFFITH, MAPLE. THOSE STREETS.

IT IS WORKING. WE CAN HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.

SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE NOT WORKED HARD TO HIT TARGET EXPENDITURE THRESHOLD. WE HAVE RECEIVED FOLLOWING REVENUES. FISCAL YEAR 2021.

WE SPENT 10.9 MILLION DOLLARS. 2022.

8.4 TOTAL. CRITICAL TOOL ADDRESSING CITY'S

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DETERIORATING STREET SYSTEM. WE ARE USING THIS FOR WHAT THE VOTERS INTENDED WHEN THEY ELECTED.

WE HAVE ADDRESSED MANY COLLECTOR PROJECT MEETINGS.

WHAT WE HAVE BEEN LACKING IN AND REASON WHY ARE STREET PAVING INDEX CONTINUED DOWN PRESSURE AS OUR LOCAL ROAD NETWORK.

IT NEEDS THE MOST MONEY. WHAT I AM HOPING FOR IS THIS NEXT ROUND OF DISCUSSION ON THE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE.

FOCUS ON FINDING A SOLUTION THAT WILL SOLVE LOCAL STREET ISSUES.

SOME OF THEM ARE AT A POINT WHERE THEY NEED COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION. SOME OF THEM NEED REHABILITATION TREATMENTS. REHAB IF WE DO IT TIMELY CAN POSTPONE AND PROLONG LIFE OF THAT ROAD.

THEY ARE AT A POINT THEY NEED RECONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE THE HEAVIEST LIFT IN FRONT OF US.

THIS IS A PROBLEM 30 YEARS IN THE MAKING.

IT IS HUMOROUS TO THINK THEY ARE GOING TO DIG OURSELVES OUT.

THEY HAVE TO WORK HARD AS A COMMUNITY.

I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE DISCUSSION.

INCREASED TO STREET MAINTENANCE FEE.

THIS FIRST TABLE SHOWS CURRENT STREET MAINTENANCE FEE CONCEPT.

AS IT STANDS TODAY. SCOND TABLE 15% INCREASE, SECOND TABLE TO 30% INCREASE. BOTTOM, GENERATES, $805,000 IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE. 30 IS 1.6.

EASY MATH TIMES TWO. PLANS $2 AND $20, WOULD HAVE GENERATED ALMOST SAME AS 30% INCREASE.

IT IS ON TARGET WHERE WE THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO BE.

SO THERE ARE MORE COMPONENTS TO THIS POLICY QUESTION THAN HERE.

THERE IS A BOND COMPONENT. YOU MAY WANT TO DELAY UNTIL AFTER STREET MAINTENANCE BONDS. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT US PUSHING OUR TAX RATE UP HIGHER AND HIGHER.

AT SOME POINT THEY BECOME UNCOMPETITIVE.

PEOPLE CHOOSE TO LIVE AND BORDER ISSUE BETWEEN CITY OF ABILENE.

THERE IS A 78% TAX DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT BORDER.

IF WE ARE GOING TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE FOR PEOPLE TO CHOOSE TO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND BUILD A HOME, WE HAVE TO BIND THAT GAP. WE DON'T EXTEND THAT FARTHER INNECESSARILY. I AM HAPPY TO PAUSE HERE IF YOU

WOULD LIKE. >> I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID I AM GOING TO USE TITANIC EXAMPLE. THEY TRIED TO TURN THAT IS A BIG SHIP. JUST DOESN'T TURN ON A DIME.

>> IT DOESN'T. >> THIS ISSUE IS A LONG-TIME COMING. IT IS NOT GOING TO GET FIXED OVERNIGHT. THIS IS A PROCESS.

HAS A FEE ALL THE STREETS ARE FIXED.

IT IS NOT. I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT SHOULD BE FIXED NOW.

SOME OF IT HAS BEEN. WE GO BACK TO THE MAP.

SOME OF OUR STREETS, MAN THAT WAS A TERRIBLE STREET.

IT IS GREAT. I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

I HOPE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. THIS IS A LONG-TERM PROJECT.

IT IS A GENERATIONAL PROCESS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE WORTHY. NOW IT IS A GREAT ROAD.

[4. 2022 Bond Election]

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SMOOTH. CONCRETE WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

GREAT EXAMPLE LEVERAGING DOLLARS FOR THAT PURPOSE.

NOW APPRECIATE THEIR PARTNERSHIP ON THAT.

THEN THE OTHER DEBT ISSUE ASSOCIATED WITH COLLECTOR NETWORK. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE TO CHARTER OUR STREETS. 50 MILLION DOLLAR BOND FOR STREETS. 60 MILLION.

80 MILLION. 6 CENTS, 8.25 CENTS FOR 80 MILLION DOLLAR BOND. $100,000 HOME.

AS AN ASIDE FOR EVERY ONE DOLLAR OR 10 MONTHLY INCREASE, $1 RESIDENTIAL, $10, APPROXIMATELY $177,000.

SO FROM A CONSIDERATION OF THE STREET CONCEPT, WE HAVE THREE LEVERS WE CAN PULL. RAISE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE.

WE COULD ISSUE BONDS. WE COULD REDUCE CURRENT EXPENDITURES AND OFFSET THAT AND GIVE MONEY TO STREETS.

THREE VIABLE SOLUTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN RAISE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE AND SUPPORT A BOND ELECTION.

ALL MONEY COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKET FROM STREET MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT. FAR MORE REGRESSIVE THAN STREET MAINTENANCE BOND. STREET BOND.

IMPACTS EVERYBODY WHEREAS BOND ELECTION, YOU ARE GOING TO PAY COMPARISON TO YOUR HOUSE HOLD VALUE.

THERE IS SOME PROGRESSIVE NATURE IN THAT RELATIONSHIP.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING IS GOING TO REAP THE SAME OUTCOME. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE HEAD ROOM, NOT FAST. WELCOME TO YOUR POINT.

MY QUESTION TO COUNCIL. WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE? WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO FOCUS ON. THERE ARE OTHER MECHANISMS. WE COULD REDUCE SPEND. TRYING TO PUT AWAY 5% OF OUR SALES TAX. RATHER THAN SAY YOU CAN PUT THAT TO STREETS. WE CAN DO THAT.

IT IS GOING TO REDUCE OUR ABILITY TO DO OTHER THINGS, PUBLIC SAFETY AND STREETS PRETTY IMPORTANT FUNCTIONS.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WHAT I AM ASKING COUNCIL WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE.

WHAT OPPORTUNITIES AND STRATEGIES DO YOU MADE POSSIBLE BY THINKTV] I SHOULD PURSUE COMING FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOLUTIONS.

>> COUNCIL TO JUMP IN, OTHER THINGS ARE SIGNIFICANT TODAY, AT THE FOREFRONT. I THINK OUR PRIORITY COMING IN WITH STAFF. I DON'T THINK IT IS PLAUSIBLE AND GO FORWARD WITH A LARGE BOND.

I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS WILL SUPPORT THAT.

TALKING TO GARY EARNEST, HE IS ANTICIPATING NEXT FOUR CONSECUTIVE YEARS TO ADD QUARTER OF A BILLION TO 300 MILLION TO NEW DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD LOVE BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT TIME WE REVISIT BEFORE BUDGET, PROJECTION OF ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT WILL BE REALIZED BY THE CITY.

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DIRECTED TO STREETS AND GIVE US A PROJECTION.

THEN CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IS IT A BOND? MAINTENANCE? THE THING THAT I ASKED COUNCILMEMBER, ELIMINATES ANY INTEREST ON BORROWED MONEY.

SO THE MONEY USED IS 100% USED FOR STREETS.

PROBLEM IS IT IS REGRESSIVE. SOME HAS A HOUSE 200,000 SAME AS 50,000. EQUITY THERE.

MY INPUT COUNCIL IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT WHAT IS COMING.

WHAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE. NEW REVENUE AND ALLOCATING PERCENTILE OF THE NEW REVENUE FOR STREETS AT THE SAME TIME.

CONTINUE TO LOOK AT A BOND NUMBER AS WELL AS ASSOCIATED AND THEN THIS TIME TODAY GENERATE INPUT FROM CITIZENS AND JULY CONVERSATION. ROBERT, IF THE ORIGINAL MEMO YOU HAD WAS TO INCREASE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE BY $2, ACCORDING TO THIS, IF I AM READING THIS RIGHT Z RAISED $2, $20 MONTHLY, THAT WOULD BRING IN 1.7 MILLION. ABOVE THAT, $4.30 WOULD THAT THEN DOUBLE TO 2.4? RAISING $2 HERE, DOES THAT BRING

IN TWICE AS MUCH? >> $4.30 WOULD BRING IN 50 MILLION DOLLARS OVER A FOUR-YEAR BOND PROGRAM.

SO OVER THE LIFE OF TTHAT >> WE DO THE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE, PRINCIPLE ONLY. PAY AS YOU GO.

WE HAVE IT. IT IS HERE.

WHEN WE INSTITUTED STREET MAINTENANCE FEE.

WE TOLD VOTERS. WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT IS WORKING. WE ARE LOCKED INTO PAYING THAT OFF. WE COULD ALWAYS STOP IT.

ALWAYS THAT OPTION. MORE OF A PAY-AS YOU GO-TYPE

SYSTEM. >> THERE ARE PROS AND CONS FOR SURE. YOU HAVE 20 MILLION DOLLAR ROAD PROJECT. 50 MILLION DOLLARS, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO SAVE YOUR MONEY. SLOWS THE PROCESS DOWN.

MAYOR, WE WILL DO THAT. STHAT BILL TO RECALL LATE.

IT IS GOING TO PROVIDE CAPS TO THAT.

IF THERE IS THAT MUCH EVALUATION COMING ON APPRAISED ROLES OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. CAPPED A 3%.

>> EVENTUALLY ALL CATCHES UP TO YOU.

BITE OUT OF THE APPLE FOR THE FIRST YEAR.

ALL COMES HOME. SENATOR BETTENCOURT MAKES A LIVING TO REDUCE TAX LIABILITY. HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.

HE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB FOR THE TAX PROCESS.

YOU ARE GOING TO SEE OUR TAX RATE.

UNLESS WE ISSUED DEBT. THEN THE RATE WILL GO UP FOR

DEBT SERVICE. >> FIRST YEAR CAN BE USED,

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FOLLOWING YEAR RELEVANT TO APPRAISAL WHICH SHOULD MEAN A DECREASE IN THE TAX RATE BASED ON EVALUATIONS, CORRECT?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. TAX BILL IS GOING TO GO UP.

IN THAT 3% WE HAVE TO PAY FOR COST OF LIVING, COST OF MATERIAL INCREASES. PUT AS CONSTRAINT AND INTENDED

TO DO SO. >> YOU MENTIONED CUTS IN OTHER AREAS? WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS ORGANIZATION WE HAVE MADE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CUTS.

NO LOW HANGING FRUIT. PART OF THE SENATE BILL.

IT IS TRIED AND TRUE. STARVE THE BEAST.

WE ARE GETTING STARVED. THAT IS OKAY.

WE HAVE TO BE MORE JUDICIOUS AND DISCERNING IN HOW WE SPEND OUR DOLLARS. CAN'T BE ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE. WE NEED TO BEST DISCERN WHERE TO PUT THE COMMUNITY. GREAT EXAMPLE WAS THE RECREATION. IT IS IN THEIR WHEEL HOUSE, THEY CAN SPEND DOLLARS IN A WAY WE CAN'T.

STRUCTURES DIFFERENT THAN OURS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT HAS QUALITY OF LIFE. THAT IS A DISCUSSION WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERY YEAR. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK

THROUGH AS A TEAM. >> WE ARE GOING TO REALIZE FIVE MILLION ADDITIONAL DOLLARS IN A 10-YEAR TERM WITH A PILOT.

THAT IS NEWFOUND MONEY TO USE THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS THIS.

WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS ABOUT?

>> WE DO. AFTER 10 YEARS MORE INCREASES.

>> STATE OF TEXAS DOESN'T GIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ANYTHING.

THEY TAKE MORE REVENUE THAN THEY HAVE EVER GIVEN US.

IT IS JUST THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS IN OUR STATE.

IN A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IT IS A BUSINESS DISTRICT WHERE THEY AGREE TO TAX THEMSELVES AT A HIGHER RATE.

WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

IT IS GOING TO BE INCUMBENT TO DECIDE THEY WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT. THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR SERVICES. I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT

FOR SURE. >> ROBERT, I AM SURE NOT DOUBTING OR QUESTIONING THESE STUDIES.

IT IS KIND OF, IT WASN'T AN OUTCOME I EXPECTED FROM A PRESENTATION. KIND OF FELT LIKE IT KICKED US IN THE TEETH WE SPENT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE.

THEN THEY SAY OUR STREETS ARE WORSE.

I THINK THE IMPROVEMENTS LOOK GOOD AND WE SHOULD GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT OF A BAT ON THE BACK FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE. I CAN'T SEE TRYING TO THROW A BOND ELECTION FOR THE STREETS. INCREASE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE.

I AM NOT FOR A BOND NOW. >> APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK.

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I DISAGREE WITH YOU. MICHAEL AND I HAD THE CONVERSATION IT IS A GUT PUNCH. IT PERFORMED THE WAY WE THOUGHT IT WAS. ORIGINAL REQUEST 12 MILLION DOLLARS. WE COULDN'T DO THAT.

TOO BIG OF AN ASK. COUNCIL MADE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THIS COMMUNITY. DIDN'T COME WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES. I DO THINK WE MADE PROGRESS.

IT IS THE LOCAL STREETS ARE DRAGGING US DOWN.

>> COUNCILMEMBER PRICE IS THE NPO.

I THOUGHT IT WAS EXACTLY. WE GO BACK, BELIEVE STARTING IN 2018-2023, A FIVE-YEAR TIME SPAN.

WHEN YOU ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, TO THE NBO COUPLED WITH SAID PREPOSITION. 185 MILLION DOLLARS.

I KNOW BOTH CATEGORY 2-5 DETERMINES HOW MUCH MONEY COMES TO THE NPO. ANY PROJECTION USED IN OUR,

WITHIN THE CITY PROPER? >> BIGGEST PROJECT THEY ARE WORKING ON IS I-20 EXPANSION. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT EFFECTS MOST PEOPLE'S DAILY COMMUNE AS WELL AS THE BUFFALO GAP ROAD PORTION. THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS AROUND TOWN. HIGHEST LEVEL OF TRAFFIC IN THE CITY. MAJOR IMPROVEMENT.

MAJOR HEADACHE BEING DONE. >> BE NICE FOR THE INTERSECTION SOUTH 27TH TO BE DONE, TOO. WORKING HARD TO GET THAT DONE FAST. THAT IS ALSO A HEADACHE.

BIRTHING THINGS. WHAT I AM HEAR ING SEEMS TO BE INTEREST IN STREET MAINTENANCE FEE VS. BOND.

USE OF CURRENT REVENUES. IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITY TO USE CURRENT DOLLARS REALLOCATE TO STREETS.

TALKING WITH GARY. FINANCIAL AMOUNTS A HIGH LEVEL.

WE CAN DIG DUNED GET NUMBERS THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM.

LOOK AT THE PILOT. EARMARKING THAT, THAT IS ALMOST A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. IS THAT REFLECTIVE OF COUNCIL'S

DESIRES? >> YES.

>> ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SUBJECT?

>> WITH THE CARES FUNDING? >> YES?

>> HOW MUCH IS UNALLOCATED? >> UM, MIKE, WHAT IS OUR MIP BALANCE UNALLOCATED? IS IT 4? 5? UNALLOCATED AND ANOTHER 10 MILLION COMING THEORETICALLY IN MAIN.

RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE, CAN'T PROMISE UNITED STATES IS GOING TO GET US 10.7. MAY 10.3.

ABSOLUTELY IF COUNCIL WANTS TO EARMARK, SURE CAN.

SOMETHING Y'ALL CAN CONTROL. >> WILL THAT BE THE BUDGET

DISCUSSION? >> YES, SIR.

>> WE CAN LOOK AT PARKS AS WELL. >> WHEN THE CHECK CLEARS?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. THEY WILL PROBABLY PUT A 10-DAY

HOLD. >> APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PARKS AND RECREATION.

Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THE COSTS MULTIPLE NEW FACILITIES.

AND INCREASE IN SIZE. IT WAS IDEAL AND REFLECTIVE WITH WHAT THE SHAREHOLDERS SURVEY WANTED.

ALL IN, WE DID EVERYTHING STUDIES SAID 87.9 MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH IS NOT ACHIEVABLE.

I CAN PRETTY DEFINITIVELY SAY THAT.

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THERE IS A LAKE IMPROVEMENT PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO.

THOSE ARE THE COSTS WHEN YOU ADD THEM ALL UP.

WE WORKED TO PAIR THAT DOWN AND IDENTIFY A PROGRAM THAT LOOKS AT TWO NEW CONSTRUCTED FACILITIES LARGER THAN THE TWO EXISTING FACILITIES. FAR MORE AFFORDABLE COST THAN ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO Y'ALL. AGAIN FOCUS ON GV DANIELS.

AMENITIES, INDOOR WALKING TRAIL AROUND THE GYM PATH.

WORKOUT SPACE, DINING SPACE. PLACE FOR STAFF OFFICES.

GV DANIELS WOULD BE SIMILAR IN SIZE AND USED ONE ANOTHER.

25.1 MILLION. THAT IS A 2.6% TAX INCREASE.

>> WOULD THAT REQUIRE TOTALLY BRINGING DOWN THE CURRENT BUILDINGS OR JUST REHABBING AND RENOVATING.

>> LESLIE, DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE INSIGHT? MY MEMORY IS CORRECT. I JUST GOT OVER COVID, LORD KNOWS. DEMOLITION OF BOTH FACILITIES IS

THAT CORRECT? >> YES.

>> DO YOU WANT TO ADD MY LIGHT COME ON UP.

>> GOOD MORNING. SO SOME OF THE GV DANIELS HAS NINE ENTRANCES AND EXITS WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING FOR SAFETY.

ALSO IT WOULD GIVE ABILITY TO BRING IT UP TO CODE.

BY DEMOLISHING THEM AND REBUILDING, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REBUILD IN A FOOTPRINT. AT ONE TIME SO THAT ALL OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BETTER USED AND BETTER AVAILABLE FOR THE CITIZENS TO USE MORE ACTIVITIES CAN BE HAD.

ALSO THE SAFETY, CODE ASPECT. LIFE AND SAFETY AS WELL AS THE INGRESS, EGRESS WOULD BE A LOT MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITIZENS AND THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE BUILDINGS.

[INAUDIBLE] WHAT IS THE PLAN, WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO

HAVE THEM HOST THOSE? >> WE COULD WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE WOULD NOT DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME SO WE COULD SHIFT PROGRAMMING TO ONE WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION IS HAPPENING IN THE OTHER AND SHIFT BACK UNTIL BOTH CAN BE OPEN AS WELL AS WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS IN THE SAME LOCATION. IF YOU -- IF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THE BUILDINGS. ONE OF THE OTHER OPTIONS IS TO TRY AND FIX IT. THESE BUILDINGS THEY ARE 50 PLUS YEARS OLD. PROBABLY COST MORE MONEY FIXING THE FLOORS, REDOING EVERYTHING ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE PART OF IT. IT WOULD COST MORE TO TRY TO REMODEL THAN START OVER. BUT EVEN THEN THAT IS THE BEST

LOCATION. >> PHASE ONE OR PHASE ONE AND

TWO? >> THAT IS JUST PHASE ONE.

PHASE TWO WOULD BE INDOOR AQUATICS.

>> APPARENTLY ARE ABOUT THE SAME SIZE THEY ARE SIMILAR BUILDINGS SO THERE IS CONSISTENCY. ONE IS NOT GOING THIS WAY.

>> YES, SIR. >> SINCE THIS APPROACH TAKES KIRBY LAKE PARK OUT, IS THERE, WE LOOKED AT AT LEAST A WALKING

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TRAIL WHERE THERE IS OUTDOOR AMENITY IMPROVEMENTS.

>> THAT IS THE NEXT SLIDE. >> SO ROBERT A QUESTION ON THIS, AND LESLIE, THESE AMENITIES THAT YOU IDENTIFIED, WHAT DATA IS DRIVING THAT AS SPACE ALLOCATED FOR THAT.

IS THAT INPUT FROM CITIZENS? BEST PRACTICES? HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT CAME TO BE.

>> THEY DID FOCUS GROUPS WITH THE COMMUNITIES.

AND THE USERS PRESENTLY. IT IS CHEAPER TO TEAR DOWN AND REBUILD RATHER THAN EXPAND AND RENOVATE.

IS THAT WHAT AHEARD? >> YES.

TAKE SERIOUS FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS AN OUTDOOR COURT THEY ENCLOSED.

IT IS END OF LIFE. IT IS CHEAPER TO DEMO.

ALSO OTHER ISSUES LIKE SEARS FOR EXAMPLE.

NO WAY TO BUILD A BUILDING. IT IS A BAD IDEA.

WE NEED TO INCORRECT THAT. >> IN REGARDS TO PROGRAMMING.

THEY ARE SERVING MEALS AND HAVE ACTIVITIES.

MID TO LATE AFTERNOON. CHILDREN, SCHOOL PROGRAM THAT COME IN. WHAT HAPPENS 8:00-11:00 EVERYDAY

AT OUR RECK CENTERS? >> VARIETY OF THINGS AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT HAPPEN. A LOT OF THAT TIME, WE USE IT TO DO MAYBE EDUCATION CLASSES, TEACHING SENIORS TO USE COMPUTERS. ANOTHER THING THAT WE ARE DOING IF YOU ARE AWARE PICKLEBALL IS A HUGELY GROWING SPORT.

NATIONWIDE. AS WELL AS IN ABILENE, TOO.

ASKED FOR MORE INDOOR SPACE. WE ARE ADDING LINES FOR THE COURTS AT ROSE TEN CENTER IN THIS NEXT REDO FOR OUTDOORS.

WE ARE BEING ASKED TO BRING MORE INDOORS.

PART OF THE BASKETBALL KOURS WOULD ALSO HAVE THE LINES FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS TO HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SENIORS AND CITIZENS. THAT IS ALSO HUGELY SUCCESSFUL.

>> THAT IS THE MOST TIME I HAVE HEARD PICKLEBALL BEING USED?

>> IT IS A GROWING SPORT. >> WE SAID THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. LET MONEY BE NO ISSUE FOR YOU.

WERE THOSE IDEAS PAIRED BACK DOWN? WE CAN ALL DREAM? WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY TO FINANCE THOSE DREAMS. IS THAT A REALISTIC NUMBER OR

DREAM NUMBER? >> NO.

THAT IS THE REALISTIC NUMBER. THAT IS VERY MUCH PAIRED DOWN

FROM THE ORIGINAL DREAM. >> ALSO SAY THAT NUMBER IS THE BEST THING WE HAVE AT THIS MOMENT.

>> THE NUMBER WILL BE BETTER BY THE TIME.

IT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT CHEAPER AT LEAST IN THE NEAR TERM. CYCLE REALLY HIGH? NO ONE HAS A JOB PRICES COME BACK DOWN AND GO BACK UP.

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I WANT TO REITERATE THIS IS NOT THE DREAM FACILITY.

THAT WAS 87.9 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.

THIS IS JUST TWO BARED DOWN. >> I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND LESLIE THANK YOU TO TOUR BOTH FACILITIES.

THEY ARE WORE OUT, OLD, TIRED. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT HEIGHTS. WATER UNDER THE FLOORS AND THE GYM. THESE CENTERS.

WE ARE A COMMUNITY. THIS IS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THOSE AREAS OF TOWN WHERE THEY SIT AT. MAYOR, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAMS. IT IS NOT JUST AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, IT IS MEALS FOR SENIORS.

THEIR TIME TO SOCIALIZE. THEY PLAY DOMINOS AND GAMES TOGETHER. IT IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THESE FACILITIES VERY IMPORTANT TO ABILENE.

WE TOURED GB DANIELS, CAME THROUGH THE DINING HALL DOOR AND INTERRUPTED FOUR DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN HAVING THEIR LUNCH.

I THINK THEY HAD CATCH FISH THAT DAY.

IT WAS AN IMPORTANT SERVICE. >> THE DOMINO PLAYING IS SIGNIFICANT. I KNOW IT IS NOT EVERYTHING WE WANT. I GO BACK TO SIDEWALKS A LONG TIME AGO. IF WE NEVER START WE NEVER START. THIS IS A GOOD STARTING SPOT.

THOSE OF THAT THAT SOON WILL BE SENIORS HAVING A PLACE TO GO PLAY DOMINOS IS NOT A BAD THING. SOME OF THE STUFF ORIGINAL 87.9 MILLION DOLLARS. THERE IS A RECK CENTER AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS. COSTS HALF A PENNY ON THE TAX RATE. 7 MILLION DOLLARS, THREE QUARTERS OF A PENNY ON THE TAX RATE.

THAT IS NOT IDENTIFY FOR ANY TRAIL IN PARTICULAR.

COULD GO A LONG WAY. LESLIE, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE DETAILS. I AM PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT KER BY LAKE TRAIL. WHAT THEY DESIGN IS A ROBUST TRAIL SYSTEM. DO YOU WANT TO SPEND TIME

TALKING ABOUT THAT? >> DID WE REDO THE DAM.

THERE IS A LOT OF VEHICULAR? >> THERE ARE TRUCK PORTIONS OF THE LAKE. DID WE LOCK DOWN TRAFFIC OVER THE DAM ITSELF? [INAUDIBLE]

>> ON TOP OF THE DAM. YOU SEE PEOPLE FISHING ON THE

WEST LEVY WHICH IS THE INTENT. >> IT IS A DIRT PATH NOW.

YOU COULD, WIDE ENOUGH. >> I VISITED WITH A GROUP DESIGNING CITY CREEK TRAIL AND ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT KIRBY LAKE AND WE HAD THE ABILITY EQUIVALENT OF 10 K OVER KIRBY LAKE. 2.6 MILES.

IT IS IN COMBINATION WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT USING LEVY AND DAM PART OF THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.

DOING THE WATER CROSSING IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS.

IT IS ALSO GOING AROUND BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS.

IN THAT AREA, AND I KNOW YOU'LL MORE ABOUT THIS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE TWO SCHOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED. PROBABLY CLOSE TO A THOUSAND HOMES OR APARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN STARTED OR IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DESIGNED IN THAT LOCATION.

SO THE TRAIL WE ARE LOOKING AT, SOME WHAT FOLLOWS THE WATER SOME WHAT LIKE CEDAR CREEK DOES. ALSO STEPS OFF SO WE ARE FOLLOWING PROPER EASEMENTS. WE ASKED THEM TO THROW EVERYTHING IN BUT THE KITCHEN SINK SORT OF WHERE THIS SEVEN MILLION DOLLAR COST CAME FROM. SOME OF THAT COULD BE PEELED OUT

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IN PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER LOCATIONS OR MAKING FEW LITTLE DESIGNS DIFFERENT PLACES. THIS IS ALSO WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS A 12 FOOT WIDE CEMENT HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT 10 FEET WIDE. THERE ARE A LOT OF VARIABILITIES IN THERE. FOR RECREATION, HAVING A HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED.

IT WAS THE NO. 1 THING THAT PEOPLE IN THAT AREA WANTED AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO HELP FUND IT? ANSWER WAS YES. WHEN IT ACTUALLY COMES DOWN TO IT AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD AT THAT TIME.

HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS IN ABILENE VERY HIGH ON EVERYBODY'S PRIORITY LIST YEAR AFTER YEAR WHEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS.

I WILL ALSO SAY WITH COVID, PEOPLE BEING TOLD TO GO OUTSIDE, ACTIVITY WE HAVE SEEN AT KIRBY, NELSON, FORT [INAUDIBLE], SEARS, RED BUD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED. THAT HAS BEEN THE NO. 1 REQUEST.

>> I LIVE A FEW BLOCKS FROM ACU. THERE ARE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WALKING AROUND THE PATHWAY THAT GOES AROUND THE CAMPUS.

SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THAT AREA OF THE CITY GO OUT AND WALK AND ENJOY. THEY ARE GOING AROUND THE WATER FUTURE THE WHOLE TIME. WE PARTNER PD WITH THE WORK FORCE. THEY PUT OVER $200,000 INTO THE PARK AND HAVING EDUCATION AREA WITH A BOARD WALK.

ALL THE PICTURES, EDUCATION. A LOT OF TEACHES HAVE BEEN TRAINED AND HAVE ANNUAL TRAININGS ON HOW DO YOU TALK ABOUT BIOLOGY? HOW DO THE BIRDS EFFECT OUR ECOSYSTEM? TWO SCHOOLS GOING IN THERE IS A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES FOR TEACHERS.

NOT A GOOD SAFEWAY TO GET THEM FROM POINT A-B.

THAT HAS BEEN ENFOLDED INTO THE DISCUSSIONS AROUND THAT AREA.

>> MIGHT BE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE UNIVERSITIES AS WELL.

>> UH HUH. >> ALSO GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

>> UNIVERSITY LEVEL THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HIGHLY BE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH. HAVE YOU DISCUSSED WITH OTHER MAJOR ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE CITY? I KNOW THEIR EMPLOYEES HIGHLY INVESTED IN THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER. I CAN SEE THEM BEING WILLING TO PROBABLY SPONSOR A TRAIL DISTANCE OR PORTION.

HAS THAT BEEN EXPLORED? >> WE HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS.

NO ONE GROUP THAT HAS THE CAPABILITY TO BE THE FRONT RUNNER AND I'LL GIVE YOU THIS MUCH MONEY CAN YOU PARTNER? IF THE CITY SAID WE CAN GIVE THIS MUCH MONEY WOULD YOU PARTNER? I THINK WE CAN GET THAT PARTNERSHIP GOING QUICKLY AND EASILY.

WE NEED SOMEBODY TO STAND UP AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.

>> I KNOW WE HAVE PARK BUT OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.

HOW AGGRESSIVE ARE WE GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT IT IS ALIVE IS IT WELL? YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD REALLY GET THAT WORD OUT, PERHAPS THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER EASY FUNDING

SOURCE. >> OKAY.

>> GREAT WAY TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

OUGHT TO BE MORE OPTIONS THAN THE DOLLAR OR TWO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE FIVE BUCKS A MONTH TO MY WATER BILL. MY WIFE AND I ARE BLESSED TO DO THAT, OTHERS MAY CHOOSE TO DO THAT.

RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPTION UNLESS EXTRA 5 WITH A BILL USE IT FOR PARKS, PLEASE. I THINK ALOU -- ALLOWING THE

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PARKS COULD BE A GREAT WAY TO START THE CONVERSATION.

WOULD YOU AGREE? >> I WOULD AGREE.

PARKS BOARD LOOKING AT THAT MARKETING CAMPAIGN.

WE DO HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS ON WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO.

CURRENTLY WE ONLY BRING IN $1,500 A MONTH THROUGH THAT.

AND RODNEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, MY UNDERSTANDING, WE ARE NOT CAPABLE OF DOING THAT IF WE PAY ONLINE.

THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING TO KEEP ENCOURAGING THAT CAMPAIGN. THAT IS SOMETHING THE PARKS

BOARD IS WORKING ON. >> NO REASON WHY A PERSON SHOULDN'T -- WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE ABLE TO TAKE SOMEONE'S MONEY JUST LIKE IN BUSINESS. [LAUGHTER].

>> I KNOW THERE IS ONE GROUP, LESLIE, KIRBY LIKE A NATURE PARK. AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITY FROM THE STATE VIA PARTNERSHIP FROM THE STATE.

ODESSA HAS A PRETTY COOL TYPE NON-PROFIT THAT WORKS WITH THE PARK SYSTEM AGGRESSIVELY GATHERS DOLLARS.

WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

>> PARKS FOUNDATION IS SOMETHING LESLIE AND I TALKED ABOUT.

THOSE ARE EXCELLENT PARTNERSHIP AT NO TIMES.

>> I THINK YOU COULD HAVE A CORPORATE STRATEGY THAT CREATES SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS IN EXCESS 5-7 MILLION.

WITHOUT A DOUBT. >> POLICY QUESTIONS, WHAT IS IT Y'ALL WANT TO DO? SHOULD WE SOLICIT VOTER APPROVAL FROM GB DANIELS AND CHAVEZ? EXPANSION OF CITIES TRAIL? ARE THESE PROJECTS WORTHY OF A TAX INCREASE OR ASKING VOTERS?

>> I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THE REC CENTERS.

>> I THINK WE OUGHT TO -- PEOPLE NEED TO SEE WHAT IT MAY LOOK LIKE CONCEPTIONALLY. LISTENING TO THE SET AMENITIES ALONG WITH VISUALS WILL PROVIDE US WITH A BETTER INPUT FROM

CITIZENS. >> PRESENTATION EASY FOR PEOPLE TO VISUALIZE. SAYING EXPANDING CITY TRAIL NEXT NETWORK. I AGREE SO VOTERS KNOW 5 MILLION DOLLARS FOR WHAT? I AM SUPPORTIVE OF BOTH WE NEED A BETTER. [INAUDIBLE] NORTH END OR WHATEVER WE ARE WANTING TO FOCUS ON.

>> I DO THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, ALSO, KIND OF TO GO BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED IN TERMS IF WE ARE PIVOTING ON DOWNTOWN HOTEL OR DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT FOR EVERYTHING WE ARE WANTING OR GIVING TO THE VOTERS TO SEE FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS ALL COMES TOGETHER AND FITS TOGETHER SO BETTER INPUT OR PEOPLE WILLING TO INVEST IN THE CITY.

TYING ALL THAT TOGETHER WOULD BE HELPFUL IN STEAD OF DISASSOCIATED FROM ONE ANOTHER. THEN MAYBE HELP THEM VISUALLY UNDERSTAND HOW IT PLAYS A PART AS A WHOLE.

>> SO LINK QUALITY OF LIFE BACK TO THE STRATEGIC PLANS?

>> LESLIE MENTIONED THE TWO SCHOOLS WITH THE TRAIL AROUND

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THE KIRBY LAKE SHOOT THAT IS CONNECT TO MAPLE STREET CLOSE TO ONE OF THE SCHOOLS OR BOTH OF THE SCHOOLS.

RESIDENTIAL AREA COMING IN, GIVES THEM A QUICK WAY SO THEY ARE NOT WALKING THROUGH ROUGH BRUSH.

>> RIGHT. THEY CAN EASILY HAVE ACCESS.

>> SURE. I AM HEARING INTEREST IS THAT

FOR BOTH ITEMS? >> YES, SIR.

>> MAYBE NOT FROM EVERYBODY OR MAJORITY OF COUNCIL THAT WANTS

TO SEE FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I WANTS TO SEE KYLE RUN 6.2 MILES.

>> LESLIE IS TRYING TO E-MAIL THAT, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS SEEING IF THERE IS A WAY TO GET THIS ON THE MACHINE WITHOUT DISRUPTING THE PRESENTATION PERHAPS. OKAY.

UM, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FIRE STATION NO. 9.

LAST YEAR CHIEF FLORES PRESENTED AN ARGUMENT FOR FIRE STATION NO.

9. BOTH HE AND I AGREED IT IS TIME TO CONSIDER CONSTRUCTION OF STATION 9.

PROVIDE CONTINUE PRESSURE. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT STUFF OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS. YOU HAVE ANOTHER 400-500 SUBDIVISION. COPEL DOING THE ONE 707 SEVERAL HUNDRED UNITS. STATION 8 HAS BEEN A LIFESAVER.

FIRE CHIEF NEEDS TO KEEP THEM THERE.

HE WANTS SO MANY NEW FIREFIGHTERS.

WE'LL HAVE TO ARM WRESTLE OVER THIS.

IT IS ANTICIPATED COST OF STATION NO. 17.6 MILLION.

BASED ON CURRENT DOLLARS. WE GATHER THAT OFF OF PROJECTS RECENTLY COMPLETED IN PEER COMMUNITIES.

ALSO FIRE TRAINING FACILITIES. PART OF THAT IS THE TYPE OF NATURE. FIRE HOUSE.

IT IS THE BIFOLD DOORS MORE COST EFFECTIVE.

IT IS EXPENSIVE. 12,000 SQUARE FEET, EIGHT DORMS, SOUTH SIDE COMMANDER OFFICE CONTINUING TO GROW AND EXPAND MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN THE CARE WE PROVIDE THROUGH ARFD.

THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER COMMANDER ON SCENE, ON SHIFT. THERE WILL BE A SOUTHERN COMMANDER. THIS PERSON WILL OFFICE OUT OF THIS FACILITY AS WELL. THREE ACRE LOT SIZE NEEDED.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITIES THAT WOULD REQUIRE COOPERATION TO GET THAT DONE. THEY HAVE PARTNERED WITH US IN THE PAST. I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO SO. WOULD REQUIRE DISCUSSION.

IN ADDITION TO THE STATION NEW APPARATUSES NEEDED.

FIRE AND BRUSH TRUCK. PERSONNEL STANDPOINT.

CHIEF'S OPTION A 12 NEW PERSONS, 1.18 MILLION DOLLARS.

FOLKS, MY CONCERN IS NOT WE WANT TO ARGUE WITH HOW TO BEST STAFF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. I TALKED ABOUT TO MIKE RANGER OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. 1.18 MILLION DOLLARS IS GOING TO EAT UP A LOT OF OXYGEN FOR EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ORGANIZATION. MY PREFERENCE, NINE NEW PERSONNEL AND BRING OVER, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET RID OF

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COMMUNITY SAFETY OFFICER. COME TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS,

CANDY. >> GOOD MORNING.

PERSONNEL IS GOING TO BE THE BIG TALKING POINT OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY. MY PREFERENCE IS 12 PERSONS.

OTHER OPTION NINE PERSONNEL WHICH WOULD ALLOW US THREE PERSONNEL PER SHIFT. WE WOULD DISSOLVE RESOURCE MEDIC TO MAKE THE FOURTH PERSON, OFFICER ROLE.

THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE MINIMUM OF FOUR PERSONNEL PER SHIFT. OUR FIELD RESOURCE MEDIC SPECIALIZED PARAMEDIC LIEUTENANT SUPERVISOR IN THE FIELD.

HE HAS A VEHICLE HE CAN RESPOND TO ALL MAJOR INCIDENCE EITHER MEDICAL OR FIRE. HE HAS A SPECIALIZED JOB TO SET UP REHAB. PERSONNEL ENGAGED IN THE FIRE.

HE HAS ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT SO HE CAN PERFORM TASKS THAT OUR GUYS CANNOT PERFORM IN THE REGULAR SENSE.

HIGH DOLLAR EQUIPMENT. FANCY TOOLS WE CAN'T AFFORD TO

PUT OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY. >> WOULD HAVE TO BE SPACED OUT BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT SHIFTS. WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY ASSIGN IT TO A STATION AS A PROGRAM. KIND OF DWINDLED DOWN AND ABSORBED THAT INTO A BUDGET GRADUALLY.

THERE WAS A SAFER GRANT THROUGH AFG.

WE HAVE MET THE TIME LINE. WE ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR THAT. JUST THROWING NUMBERS OUT THERE.

WE HAVE GOTTEN BUSIER AS A CITY. NUMBERS DRIVE WHAT WE DO.

FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, 2020 AND BEYOND WE HAVE AVERAGED JUST OVER 14,000 CALLS AND 2021 WE HAD 18,000.

WE HAD 4,000 INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD.

NO GENERAL AREA IN SPECIFICS. >> I GAVE CHIEF DUDLEY SOME

LOVE. >> I AM USED TO IT.

[LAUGHTER]. SINCE I TOOK THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I WANT TO TOLL YOU I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. CHIEF DUDLEY.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, FOR WHAT YOUR DEPARTMENT DOES.

>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT.

WE HAD INCREASE AND FIRES. PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE BOARD.

>> THEY HAVE BEEN THAT IS INDICATIVE OF THE FIRE SAVE 70% OF CALLS EMS RELATED. ALMOST ALL OF THE [INAUDIBLE]

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MONEY. $880,000 CAUSES US TO DO EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO FOR STREETS.

USE EXISTING DOLLARS MORE DISCERNINGLY.

Y'ALL'S DECISION. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SOLVED TODAY.

WE HAVE TO BUILD A STATION BEFORE WE FUND PEOPLE.

MORE WE DELAY THIS MORE DIRE THAT NEEDLE BECOMES.

>> IT IS A LIFE CONVERSATION. WE KNOW WHAT THE GROWTH IS

OCCURRING. >> I THINK THERE IS A PARALLEL.

WE ARE JUST GOING TO PUT OURSELVES BEHIND THE 8:00 BALL.

I THINK WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THIS.

>> ROB, WAS THERE A CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPER?

>>IEST, VERY EARLY ON. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED PROPERTY THE CITY OWNS AND PROBABLY A BETTER IDEA FOR THE CITY TAX PAYOR.

>> FOR ME PERSONNEL QUESTION FOR ME IT IS A FOREGONE CONCLUSION.

IT IS TIME, GROWTH THERE PROVEN NUMBERS.

WE SAW IT LAST YEAR, GETTING WORSE.

FOR ME IT IS NOT A QUESTION DO WE NEED A STATION BUT DO WE HAVE

PAYROLL. >> ALSO MAINTAIN STAFFING OF STATION 8:00. THIS TAKES A CURRENT OFFICER POSITION AND PUTS THEM BACK TO ROTATION.

>> AND CHIEF, DID YOU SAY THAT THE FEE -- I HAVE SEEN THAT TRUCK RIDING AROUND. COULD WE MAKE THAT STATION NINE.

>> INVENTORY MANAGEMENT AND Q8 SIDE OF IT WE HAVE BEEN DOING

IT. >> IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNCIL THAT YOUR SUPPORT OF THE STATION NINE? WILL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT PERSONNEL AS IT MATURES?

>> I AM ASSUMING THE APPARATUS COVERS WITH A ONE-TIME, $300,000 INFUSION. HOW WE USE ARPA MONEY.

COUNCIL ON BOARD FOR THAT CONCEPT?

>> YES. >> UM THIS IS THE UGLY SLIDE.

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EVERYBODY WANTS TO SOMETHING TO DO.

THIS IS THE OPTIONS FOR DIFFERENT BOND CONCEPTS WE TALKED ABOUT. AND THIS IS THE ASSOCIATED TAX INCREASE REQUIRED TO PAY FOR THAT OVER A 20-YEAR BOND.

YOU COULD DO A 40-YEAR BOND IT IS NOT VERY FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE. MONEY YOU SPEND ON INTEREST IT IS NOT THAT INTELLIGENT. COMMUNITIES DO IT, WE HAVE NOT.

IT WILL NEVER MATERIALIZE. 20-YEAR BOND DOESN'T INCREASE VERY STANDARD WITH VERY CONSERVATIVE DEBT PRACTICES.

THESE WOULD BE 20-YEAR DECISIONS.

IN LIGHT OF THIS, OTHER, ARE THERE THINGS YOU WANT TO REEXAM OR INTERESTED IN SEEING THESE BE FURTHER DISCUSSED FROM BOND PROPOSAL. PARKS AND REC CENTERS, TRAIL

NETWORKS AND FIRE STATION. >> HOW MUCH WOULD BE LEFTED OVER

TO GO TOWARDS CEDAR CREEK? >> ACTUAL COMPONENT FOR KIRBY.

LE LESLIE, 7.8, 7.6?

>> OPTION BETWEEN 6.5 AND 7. >> 7.

OKAY. JUST UNDER 7 FOR KIRBY.

>> IT IS A DRIVEWAY, REALLY. YOU COULD REDICE TO 10.

SAVE MONEY THERE. BUT THAT INCLUDES BENCHES, LIGHTING. THAT STUFF.

THAT DOESN'T THINK ABOUT PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP.

IF WE WERE ABLE TO GENERATE SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, LOWER BOND AMOUNT POTENTIALLY OR OTHER TRAILS IN THE COMMUNITY. IT IS THE NO. 1 REQUESTED COMMUNITY, MOST COMMUNITIES AND NO. 1 MOST USED AMENITY IS TRAILS, TRAIL SYSTEMS. HOW WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THE BOND DISCUSSION? UM.

WHAT IS THE VEHICLE WE WANT TO USE? GO THROUGH BLUE RIBBON PROCESS? STREET BOND MAY NOT BE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THERE A NEED FOR STREET MAINTENANCE INCREASE? THAT REMOVES A LOT OF THAT PRESSURE.

IS THERE A DESIRE TO HAVE A BLUE RIBBON COMMUNITY, PUT TOGETHER MARKETING AND EDUCATION MATERIALS, PRESENT THAT TO THE PUBLIC. LOOK FOR PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS. 2015 BOND AND GET READY FOR A BOND ELECTION IN MAY OR NOVEMBER.

THIS NOVEMBER OR MAY. TOO FAST FOR MAY ELECTION.

YOU COULD DO IT THE FOLLOWING NOVEMBER.

>> I THINK THE BIG ISSUE IS -- I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO A BOND AND INCREASE. I THINK TO CONTINUE THAT KVRGS.

THAT TRIGGERS THE WHOLE CONVERSATION PERHAPS MAY OF '23 OR NOVEMBER OF 23. BEING INFORMED EXACTLY WHAT THEY

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ARE GETTING. IT IS INCUMBENT TO PROVIDE STEWARDSHIP OF FUNDS COLLECTED. WHAT SAY YOU, COUNCIL?

>> I WOULD, THEY MAY REFLECT FROM A STREET STANDPOINT.

FOR A BOND FOR SHIFTING THE BOND DISCUSSION TO PARKS AND REC AND TRAIL SYSTEM. THAT IS WHERE I WOULD LIKE IT.

THIS WILL TAKE A LOT OF MONEY TO GET US WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.

AND COUNCIL AND PERHAPS THE ADMINISTRATION DID NOT DO THEIR JOB. WE ARE PAYING A LOT MORE MONEY NOW THAN WE WOULD HAVE 30 YEARS AGO WE WOULD HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO ARTICULATING WHAT WE NEED. OKAY IF WE GO DOWN THE PATH OF USING STREET MAINTENANCE FEE. WHAT THAT MEANS SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO DIG US OUT OF THE WHOLE.

WHAT IT IS. EMBRACING THAT REALITY.

MAKING DECISIONS THAT ALLOW THIS COMMUNITY TO BE BETTER.

WE TALKED ABOUT OF THIS BEING A 20-YEAR CONVERSATION ABOUT STREETS. UNFAIR EXPECTATION.

THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO INVEST AND GET US WHERE WE NEED

TO BE. >> SO LET ME FILTER THROUGH THINGS I HEARD: I AM HEARING THERE IS VALUE IN VALUE IN A STAKEHOLDER DISCUSSION TO HELP VISUALIZE AND COMMUNICATE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WHY THESE QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENTS ARE IMPORTANT. WE SHOULD TARGET MAY 2023.

FOR AN ELECTION. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. >> OKAY.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THEN IS TO START WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY WHO MIGHT BE ON THAT COMMITTEE.

ALLOW THEM TO SEE THE INFORMATION, FINE TUNE IT, ADD TO IT. AS I TELL THE EMPLOYEES BEST IDEAS DON'T ALWAYS GENERATE IN MY OFFICE.

LET'S ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY. MAYBE WE HIT THE TARGET.

MAYBE WE MISSED THE MARK. SHARPEN THIS AND BRING IT TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION MAY 2023 ELECTION.

IT IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME. PUT IN PLACE STRUCTURE.

>> IN '15 TWO PEOPLE PER COUNCILMEMBER.

MAYOR APPOINTED A THIRD THAT WAS CHAIR.

ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM SENIOR EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP UNWIELDING NUMBER. FAR MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE PRACTICE, COUNCIL APPOINTS ONE PER AND MAYOR APPOINTS THE CHAIR. IF THAT BOARD FEELS THEY NEED TO

REACH OUT, LET THEM DO THAT. >> I WILL SAY THIS.

I THINK THE PROBLEM OR CHALLENGE WOULD YOU SAY.

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WE DIDN'T -- STRUCTURE. I THINK WE PUT THOSE CITIZENS IN AN AWKWARD SPOT. WE PUT PARAMETERS ALLOW US TO

GET INPUT NEEDED TO PROCESS. >> OKAY.

WE WILL WORK TO BRING YOU SOMETHING TO ACCOMPLISH.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? >> TODAY WE ARE NOT DECIDING ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. THAT IS JUST A STARTING POINT.

>> YES. WHAT I AM TRYING TO PUT BOOKENDS IN THE CONVERSATION. OTHERWISE.

>> OKAY. ONE FINAL THING ON STREETS.

I WILL BRING YOU FAIRLY INNOVATIVE CONCEPTS FOR US AND NEW CONCEPTS FOR US ON FUNDING WITH EXISTING REVENUES.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO BRING MONEY TO THE TABLE.

CLEARLY NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON STREETS.

COMES A POINT CITIZEN AND TAX PAYOR AND BUSINESSES CAN'T PAY ANYMORE. WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL WITH 7% INFLATION. IT IS NOT NOT GOING TO COME WITHOUT A COST. I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THAT

[5. Water Utilities]

WITH YOU, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE EASY CONVERSATIONS.

I WANT TO INVITE RODNEY UP TO TALK ABOUT WATER RESILIENCY.

AND I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOVE ON THESE GUYS.

YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH A WINTER EVENT COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK. GRID IN BETTER SHAPE.

CERTAINLY MORE PRODUCTION FROM LAST WINTER STORM.

EVERYBODY THUMPING THEIR CHEST. WE REACHED EXPERTS IT WAS NOT PRESSURED OR CHALLENGED LIKE LAST FEBRUARY.

MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK WITH THE WATER AND UTILITY DEPARTMENT THEY DIDN'T HISTORICALLY DO THAT IN THE PAST WE LEARNED LESSONS LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUTSIDE EXPERTS AND ENGINEERING FIRMS, DO WE WANT TO SPEND MONEY SO THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN? THIS WILL STILL HAPPEN IF YOU LOSE THE GRID.

I AM PROUD OF THIS MAN. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AT ON WATER RESOURCES.

RODNEY TAYLOR, DIRECTOR OF BOARD UTILITIES.

I WANT TO TALK LITTLE BIT ON WATER RESILIENCY OF OUR SYSTEM.

EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLAN RELATED TO THAT.

I AM NOT GOING TO A LOT OF DETAILS THAT BROUGHT US DOWN THIS PATH. I THINK WE ARE AWARE OF FEBRUARY 2021 AND HOW IT EFFECTED SYSTEM INCLUDING LOSS OF PRESSURE.

IT WAS ABILENE PROBLEM. ALSO A STATEWIDE PROBLEM RELATED TRIGGERED BY A FAILURE OF THE GRID AND SEVERE WINTER EVENT.

STATE LEGISLATURE ADDRESSED THIS GREATER STATEWIDE ISSUE.

AND PRODUCED, INTENDED TO ADDRESS NOT ONLY THE ISSUES WITH THE PIE GRID AND ENERGY SUPPLIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, ALSO PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE BACK ON THEWA WE DON'T ALLOW THAT TYPE OF EVENT TO HAPPEN AGAIN AND APPLIES TO ABILENE AS WELL.

SENATE BILL 3 CREATED OR CODIFIED THROUGH TEXAS WATER CODE SOME THINGS THAT APPLY TO THE CITY OF ABILENE WHICH IS

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THONOW IN EFFECTED UTILITY.

20 PSI OF WATER PRESSURE DURING A NATURAL DISASTER EVENT.

REALISTICALLY IT IS FAILURE OF THE ELECTRICAL GRID SYSTEM.

REQUIRING US TO PREPARE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLAN.

PLAN HAS A TEMPLATE TO FOLLOW AND BETTER COORDINATION WITH EMERGENCY PLANNERS IN THE FUTURE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS TO PROTECT THE CONSUMER.

WE HAVE REGISTERED WITH UTILITY PROVIDERS AND TEXAS UTILITIES COMMISSION. NEXT STEP MARCH 1ST, COMPLETE AND SUBMIT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLAN FOR REVIEW AN APPROVAL BY TCQ. SO THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLAN. THERE WAS A TEMPLATE EXISTED WITH TCQ. READAPTED FOR STATE OF TEXAS GIVES US 14 OPTIONS TO CHOOSE SPECIFIC OPTIONS.

WE DID HAVE -- WORKED WITH US TO DEVELOP NOT ONLY STUDY OF THE RESILIENCY OF OUR SYSTEM ALSO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS. THEY PROVIDE US WITH OPTIONS.

ONE WAS A SYSTEM WIDE GENERATORS.

THERE WAS ALSO ONE A FIVE-SITE CRITICAL SITES.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WAYS TO ADDRESS THIS AS FAR AS TRULY MEETING THE INTENT OF THE EPP. IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE ON DEMAND AND PAY A FEE TO HAVE THE SERVICE AVAILABLE.

OTHER ONE IS GENERATORS INSTALLED ON CRITICAL FACILITIES AND PAY A MONTHLY FEE TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN FACILE -- FACILITIES. IF WE WANT TO WORK AT PURCHASING WHICH IS WHAT THE EHT PROPOSALS WERE AND PLAN.

EITHER IMMEDIATE PROJECT THAT WOULD INVOLVE DEVELOPING PLANS.

WE WOULD MAINTAIN THOSE OR A MORE PRACTICAL APPROACH INSTEAD OF ALL OUT, WE ARE GOING TO BUY THEM AND INSTALL THEM IMMEDIATELY. WE DO OUR TYPICAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS Z. TAKE JUST

[01:55:05]

A STEP BACK. TAKING A STEP BACK TO JULY.

WE HAVE A RATE MODEL AND PREDICTED RATES OVER THE YEARS.

JUST UNDERSTAND AS NEW THINGS COME UP, NEW VARIABILITIES THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. REGARDLESS OF HOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH GENERATORS, WE ARE GOING TO STICK TO THE FIVE-YEAR RATE PLAN THAT WE AS A GOOD PLAN AND YOU ADOPTED.

THAT IS OUR INTENT WHATEVER WE DO, WE WANT TO STICK WITH THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN. IMPORTANT PROJECTS WE NEED TO DO THESE NOW IN THE ORDER WE PROPOSED.

WE REALIZED BECAUS OF INFLATION WE ARE SEEING ON COSTS OF PROJECTS. WE ARE MANIPULATING TIMING OF THE DEAD ISSUANCE WE HAD PLANNED.

WE HAD 2022 AND 2029 DEAD ISSUANCE PLAN.

MOVING 2029 UP TO 2024. AGAIN IT WILL NOT EFFECT OUR FIVE-YEAR RATE PLAN AFTER FIFTH YEAR.

WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER A RATE ADJUSTMENT BOVR WHAT OF WHAT WE PREDICTED. THAT WILL SET A NEW BASELINE LOOKING AT THE GRAPH BEFORE. WE EXPECT THAT TO BE STEADY THROUGH 2036. IT IS CHANGING THE POSSIBLE OUTCOME IN THE FUTURE HAVING TO ADJUST FOR INFLATION OR IF WE WANT TO ADD GENERATORS. TALKING ABOUT THE RENTAL OPTIONS, GENERALLY LOOKING AT ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IF WE WERE TO HAVE A COMPANY TO PROVIDE A SERVICE IN WHICH THEY WOULD ON THE GENERAL -- OWN THE GENERATORS.

MAKE THEM AVAILABLE AND INSTALL THEM AND MAINTAIN THEM ON OUR SIDE. WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE MILLION DOLLARS OF EXPENSE MONEY BUILT INTO OUR BUDGET AGAIN NOT ORIGINALLY INCLUDED IN CURRENT RATE PLAN.

IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE IMMEDIATELY WITH THE FIVE GENERATOR SETS, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IS WITH IMMEDIATE ACTION INCORPORATE 12 PLUS MILLION FOR 2022.

IT WOULD NOT IMPACT FIVE-YEAR RATE PLAN UNTIL SIXTH YEAR.

BUILD AS YOU GO. WE HAVE A SET OF PROJECTS.

WE WOULD ADD THE COST OF THE PROJECT ON TO THE DEBT ISSUANCE.

WE WOULD USE CASH RESERVES TO PAY FOR GENERATOR IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT YEAR.

WE DO, WE ARE REQUIRED TO PREPARE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS

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PLAN. IT HAS TO DESCRIBE HOW THE CITY IS GOING TO RESPOND AND MAINTAIN 20 PSI.

I THINK EARLY ON EXPECTATION WAS WE COULD CHECK A BOX, SIGN THE DOCUMENT AND SUBMIT IT. REALITY IS, IS THAT, THAT IS NOT GOING TO WORK IN THE ENVIRONMENT WE ARE IN.

WE HAVE BEEN TESTED BY FIRE AND FAILED LAST FEBRUARY.

SO WE KNOW WE ARE VULNERABLE IN OUR WATER UTILITY.

RECOMMENDATION IS LOOK AT BUILD AS YOU GO PROJECT PROCESS TO INSTALL GENERATORS AS WE MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH OUR CURRENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN. LAST 2030.

IT SAYS WORST CASE. IT IS WORST CASE IN THE FACT IT WOULD TAKE TIME FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN.

WE CAN'T TELL THEM WE ARE GOING TO DO IT UNDER SCHEDULE AND NOT DO IT. WE COULD TAKE ACTIONS TO DO IT SOONER THEN THAT. KEEP THAT IN MIND.

OUR INTENT TO PREPARE EMERGENCY PLAN WITH OPTION ONE.

BUILD AS YOU GO FOR GENERATOR FACILITIES.

WE WANT TO FURTHER E VL WAIT RESILIENCY AS A SERVICE THAT LOOKED LIKE A GOOD OPTION POSSIBLY FOR THE CITY.

PUTS A LOT OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION RESPONSIBILITIES ON SERVICE PROVIDER. WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT FUELS AN OTHER OPTIONS, MAYBE GREAT OPTIONS ON OUR HORIZON WE WOULD COULD USE TO PROVIDE ENERGY SOURCE SUCH AS SOLAR.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE SEEKING FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS WORKING AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN SECURE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF WE HAD THE MONEY WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE. THAT IS NOT USUALLY THE CASE.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE LOOKING AT OTHER FACILITIES.

THERE WAS A BIG LETDOWN WHEN WE FAILED PROVIDE LEVEL OF SERVICE CUSTOMERS EXPECTED. ONLY WAY IS TO CORRECT TO PROBLEM MOVING IN THIS PATH. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE ANOTHER DOWN SIDE TO DOING IT ALL AT ONCE IN 15 YEARS, WHATEVER THE LIFE CYCLE IS FOR IF GENERAL -- GENERATORS NEED TO BE REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME.

BUILD AS YOU GO, IT AWE LOUS FOR A BETTER PLANNING FOR GRADUAL ADDRESSING OF REPLACEMENT OVER TOIM.

THAT IS MY PREFERENCE. >> ARE YOU SAYING WE HAVE TO DO

THIS TO MAKE STAFF REQUIREMENTS? >> YES.

THERE ARE BOXES WE CAN CHECK AND SUBMIT THE PLAN AND ALMOST ASSUREDLY THE PLAN WILL BE REJECTED.

IT WOULD BE BASICALLY THINGS THAT ARE NO ACTION ITEMS. WE HAVE ALREADY SHOWN STATUS QUO IS NOT SUFFICIENT.

I DON'T KNOW WE CAN SAY WE COULD GO THROUGH ANOTHER EVENT AND NOT HAVE THE SAME OUTCOME WITHOUT MAKING IMPROVEMENTS.

>> IT IS A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. >> ABSOLUTELY IT IS.

>> HOUSTON SPENDS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BACK UP GENERATORS DIDN'T WORK. SO -- THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE GUARANTEE. THIS DOES BY MAKING THESE TYPES

OF IMPROVEMENTS. >> I WAS IN AUSTIN, MONDAY, WEST

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TEXAS WATER DEPARTMENT SHED. CITY MANAGERS.

WE WERE TALKING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL INTEREST GROUP.

AND AND BECAUSE I AM TRAVELING ON THE ROAD, I STOPPED AT WHATBURGER. I ASKED FOR UNSWEET TEA.

EVEN WITHOUT STORMS, SOME WATER UTILITIES HAVE A HARD TIME.

IT IS NOTHING TO LAUGH AT, THAT IS QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.

HE IS GOING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO THAT.

STATE AND CHANGES, NEW BILL IT IS GOING TO INPUT A LOT OF MONEY ON LOCAL UTILITY PROVIDERS TO FIX.

WHETHER OR NOT THEY DO WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE AT THE GAS COMPANIES, I DON'T KNOW. BASED ON WHAT WE ARE SEEING ACROSS STATE OF TEXAS. FURTHER DISCUSSION, GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY.

THOSE ARE THE RULES. WE WILL RESPOND ACCORDINGLY.

I DO THINK THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING THAT IS MEASURED.

[INAUDIBLE] >> YES, SIR.

>> YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO [INAUDIBLE] WITH PRICES.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE ELIMINATE IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I THINK THEY DID A GOOD JOB. IT WILL COST MONEY.

>> AND THAT IS RIDICULOUS, IN ORDER TO MAKE TEA YOU BOIL WATER. [LAUGHTER].

>> YOU KNOW SOMETHING, IT MAY NOT BE A WINTER STORM THAT TAKES IT DOWN. MAYBE A TORNADO.

WE HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A MAJOR TORNADO EVENT IN A WHILE. IT IS A LOT OF MONEY.

SAFE TO SAY IN SOME REGARDS OUR HANDS ARE TIED HERE?

>> WE BELIEVE SO. IF WE SEND A PLAN, THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY NO THANKS, TRY IT AGAIN.

>> MEETING REQUIREMENTS OF SENATE BILL 3.

WE HAVE TO MAKE REQUIREMENTS. >> IT DOES, YES, SIR.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS RODNEY.

>> OKAY CATCH UP TO THE -- OKAY. SO GOING TO PROVIDE UPDATE ON

[6. Animal Services]

ADOPTION CENTER. WE HAVE ENTERED WITH COMPLETION OF ANIMAL SHELTER DESIGN. THAT WORK IS ONGOING.

MOVING FORWARD IN A MEASURED PACE, GOOD PACE.

I WANT TO ADDRESS CONCERNS FROM OUR STAFF.

THERE IS ALWAYS CHATTER LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

PART OF THAT IS WE ARE NOT GOING TO -- OUR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LEFT BEHIND? THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

WE ARE LOOKING AT ABLE TO UTILIZE OLD FACILITY AND NEW FACILITY. ADOPTION AND EDUCATION FACILITY IN THE NEW PLACE. EUTHANASIA, RATHER THAN

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INVESTING MONEY OR BUY NEW EQUIPMENT.

HAVING A PLACE WE HAVE TO DO EUTHANASIA FROM TIME TO TIME.

DOESN'T MEAN ANIMAL SERVICES IS GOING TO STAY IN THE OLD BUILDING, RIGHT? ARCHITECT IN OUR ORIGINAL DESIGN WORK. BASED ON CURRENT CONSTRUCTION DESIGN CHANGES. THAT IS THE FUNDRAISING GOAL.

REDUCTION INCLUDED MORE UTILITARIAN FIELD TO THE DEVELOPMENT. ALSO TALKED ABOUT -- ALL KINDS PUT THAT BACK IN FROM CAPACITY STANDPOINT.

WHEN WE DO THE CHANGES, SOME MORE EXPENSIVE BUT RESULT IN A BETTER OPERATING FACILITY. RATHER THAN -- THEY WANT TO HAVE EACH HAS A FLUSHER LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

MORE EXPENSIVE WAY OF DOING THAT.

EASIER TO MAINTAIN OVER TIME. IF WE CAN DO TO PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, PRIVATE SIDE WANTS TO HELP PARTNER, MORE POWER.

LET'S GET A GREAT FACILITY. FROM A SIDING LOCATION, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT TO STAKEHOLDERS. IT IS JUST A CONCERN ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] AND ITS FIT. THERE IS A PARTY WE TALKED ABOUT TO WHO HAD ENOUGH CONCERN THEY ARE WILLING TO HELP FINANCIALLY TRY TO SOLVE THAT AND MAKE A DONATION.

POTENTIALLY. SO THAT HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED BY ANY STRETCH. OFFER HAS BEEN PUT OUT THERE.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. SO IDENTIFYING OTHER PARCELS.

IDENTIFYING ONE. CURRENTLY IN DISCUSSIONS TO SEE IF THERE IS AN INTEREST. WE HAVE RECEIVED APPRAISE NUMBER FOR THE PROPERTY 1.27 MILLION. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE BUILDING AND ANOTHER PARCEL NEXT TO IT. COULD BE FOR BOTH PARCELS, RIGHT AROUND 1.8-2 MILLION HONESTLY. WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT THAT MEANS. THEY ALSO HAVE OTHER ALTERNATIVES PLACING THIS FACILITY.

THAT SITE, THOSE CHECK A LOT OF BOXES, ATTRACTIVE LOCATION AND COULD WORK FOR US IF WE CAN GET PURCHASED AT A REASONABLE AMOUNT. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT IF WE ARE ABLE TO PICK UP THE LAND, DESIGN WORK DONE.

IT IS POSSIBLE WE COULD BEGIN CONSTRUCTION CERTAINLY 2023.

THAT IS AGGRESSIVE TIME LINE. STILL I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE.

IT WOULD BE AT LEAST A 12-MONTH BUILD.

IF NOT LONGER. IT WOULD RESULT IN A FACILITY THIS COMMUNITY CAN BE PROUD IN AND LIFE SAVING SHELTER.

IT WOULD RESULT IN A CONTINUED ENRICHMENT AND PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN CURRENT ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND ALL KINDS.

IT WOULD BE A TRUE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION YOU ALL EXPRESSED.

THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

PART OF THE MIP FUNDS I HAVE EARMARKED MONEY FOR THE SHELTER FOR THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION. NOT ENOUGH TO PAY FOR THIS THING. WHICH IS WHY PRIVATE SIDE NEEDS TO COME FORWARD. AND BASED ON LAST DISCUSSION, NOT PART OF A BOND -- I DIDN'T HEAR A LOT OF INTEREST ON COUNCIL'S PART. SO JUST FOCUSSED ON ITEMS QOL.

WE DO BELIEVE WE CAN DO A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

ANY QUESTIONS ON SHELT SHELTER? >> LET'S GO BACK TO WHERE I WAS.

LIKE WITH THE ZOO. WE HAD A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. IT WAS PUT BEFORE THE

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$12 MILLION PROJECT. WE PUT THEM IN CHARGE OF THE FINALIZATION OF THE DESIGN BECAUSE IF THEY ARE BRINGING IN THE LION'S SHARE OF THE FUNDS, WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A FACILITY THEY CAN FUND. IF THEY BUILD THE TAJ MAHAL AND CAN BRING MONEY TO THE TABLE, FANTASTIC. THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO.

THEY'RE LOOKING TO BUILD A QUALITY FACILITY THEY CAN SERVICE FOR A LONG TIME, BUT IT

WILL BE WITHIN OUR BILLING FIND. >> DID YOU SAY A DOG MAHAL?

>> YES, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? >> WHAT IS THE COUNCIL'S

TEMPERATURE ON THAT? >> THAT'S MY QUESTION. IF WE HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE,

WHAT DO WE NEED A BOND FOR? >> THERE'S NOT A LOT OF INTEREST TO DO A BOND.

IF WE FIND THIS, WE TALK ABOUT COS, AND THERE IS NO INTEREST FOR COS.

EARMARKING CASH, IT'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE PROJECT. SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH AYSA. WE DID GET THAT BECAUSE IT WAS INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE PUT UP OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE PROJECT. IF COUNSEL WANTS TO TAKE THE MEASURE TO THE VOTERS, WE CAN. WE HAVEN'T SPENT A DOLLAR YET. THAT'S WHY WE'RE DO A BOND?

>> I WOULD LIKE COMMUNITY BUY IN ON SPENDING $12 MILLION ON ANIMAL ADOPTION FACILITY WITH WHATEVER IT ENDS UP BEING WHAT PRIVATE CONTRIBUTION. IF IT ENDS UP BEING SIX AND

SIX, OR FOUR AND EIGHT, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. >> IF WE PUT UP FOUR, AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS NOT ABLE TO GENERATE EIGHT, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR IT'S NO COMMUNITY BUY-IN.

DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE PROCESS TO DO THAT IN YOUR OPINION?

>> THAT WAS MY DISCUSSION POINT. I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK, OR I HAVEN'T HEARD. IF THE MAJORITY FEELS LIKE LET'S USE THE 4 MILLION OUT OF THE MIP, AND IF WE CAN GET EIGHT FROM THE COMMUNITY, LET'S GO.

>> YEAH. >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SPENDING THE FOUR BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED. I MEAN, WE NEED A NEW FACILITY. I AM OKAY.

WE ALL GET SEVERAL EMAILS REGARDING THIS. I HAVE YET TO GET ANY MONEY FROM SOMEONE SAYING WE DON'T NEED A NEW SHELTER. I DID HEAR, WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND 15 MILLION ON ONE. DID HEAR THAT. I'VE NEVER HEARD SOMEONE SAY, WE DON'T NEED A NEW SHELTER, BECAUSE WE NEED A NEW SHELTER. WE NEED A NEW FACILITY.

IF WE HAVE 4 MILLION, THAT'S FINE. PRIVATE BUSINESS TO RAISE THE REST. PI'M OKAY WITH THAT. I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING AGAINST IT. THAT MAY CHANGE IN THE NEXT 10 MINUTES.

THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON IT. >> THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEED. I AM MORE FOR PAYING NOW AND

NOT ACQUIRING DEBT AND PAYING INTEREST. >> HOW DOES THE REST OF COUNSEL

FEEL? >> I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I DO THINK SPENDING THE FOUR NOW THE PUBLIC IS PRETTY MUCH GIVING US THE BUY-IN AND THEY

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ARE ABLE TO GENERATE THE FUNDS WITH THE RAISING OF THE DOLLARS.

I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE, 4 MILLION FOR SURE. >> WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE FOUR

DESIGNATED AND THREE GETS RAISED? >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A

PROJECT THEN. >> DO WE GO TO THE VOTERS? >> WE DISCUSSED THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME. IT COULD BE THAT WE LOOK AT AN ADDITIONAL TIME FOR FUNDRAISING. IF WE FOLLOW THE MODEL WE USED WITH AYSA, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT. WE HAVE THIS MUCH MONEY AND THERE IS SO MUCH TIME TO GET IT DONE. YOU DON'T WANT TO LOCK IT UP AND NOT USE IT.

IT'S THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND A NEEDS TO BE SPENT ON PROJECTS FOR THEM.

MAYBE 12 OR 18 MONTHS AND TALK TO THEM AND SEE WHAT'S REALISTIC TIMELINE TO GENERATE THE DOLLARS WE NEED TO GENERATE. IF THEY DON'T DO IT BY THEN, WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

IT COULD BE GOING TO THE VOTERS. >> WE WANT TO HAVE THAT AS A DISCUSSION POINT FOR THE BOND CITIZEN COMMITTEE AS A FALLBACK, SO IF THE FUNDRAISING FAILS THEN WE ARE FAR ENOUGH ALONG WE CAN THROW THAT IN AND HAVE IT INCLUDED? IF IT'S NOT, IT'S GOING TO BE 2015-2023, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT 2030.

>> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT FALLBACK. >> SO WE ARE NOT WAITING 10

MORE YEARS FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN. >> SURE.

>> WE ARE IN THE PROCESS DO WE ACQUIRE LAND? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO BUY

IT. >> NO. I THINK THE PARCEL WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW CAN BE PARKLAND, TOO. IF THE WHOLE THING FELL APART.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A 36 MONTH CONTINGENT CONTRACT. IF YOU'RE BUYING LAND, YOU NEED TO BUY LAND. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A RISK WE HAVE TO TAKE.

WHETHER ALL KINDS TAKES THE RISK, OR CITY OF ABILENE TAKES THE RISK, I DO FEEL STRONGLY THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO OWN THE FACILITY, ESPECIALLY FOR PUTTING ALL OF OUR EGGS IN THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING'S BASKET. FROM AN OWNERSHIP STANDPOINT, IT OUGHT TO BE THE PEOPLE'S BUILDING. WE ARE WORKING ON THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.

THE CONCEPT RIGHT NOW IS GIFT IT TO THE CITY. THE SAME THING CAN HAPPEN TO THE LAND. THEY CAN BUY THE LAND AND GIVE IT TO THE CITY.

IF THE PROJECT IS NOT ABLE TO HAPPEN, THEY CAN SELL IT, OR WE CAN, TOO.

IF THE LAND WE ARE LOOKING AT BUYING CERTAINLY HAS VALUE AND COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY, SO WHATEVER WE PAY WE CAN GET OUR DOLLARS OUT OF IT FOR SURE. SO THEN THE QUESTION IS BOND BACKUP, PLAN B. SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THE BOND CAN LOOK AT.

YOU ALL AGREE WITH THAT CONCEPT AS A CONCIL? OKAY.

WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THE 4 MILLION EARMARKING. WE WILL HAVE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOND COMMITTEE AS A BACKUP DISCUSSION IN THE EVENT PRIVATE SECTORS ARE ABLE TO GENERATE THE FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR THAT DISCUSSION.

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>> THANK YOU. THIS TOPIC, WHAT ARE WE DOING RIGHT NOW? NEIGHBORHOOD AS OPPORTUNITIES. YOU ALL HAVE ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE AND PROGRAM THAT WE CAN WORK FROM A STRUCTURE STANDPOINT. PART OF THAT WAS LOOKING AT THESE TWO HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INVESTMENT, BOTH ON OUR SIDE AND THE PRIVATE SIDE. WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW WE ARE IDENTIFYING OCCUPIED BUILDINGS OR VACANT BUILDINGS. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SAME TIME AS WE DO THE BUILDING SURVEY LOOKING AT CODE ENFORCEMENT OR CODE COMPLIANCE OPPORTUNITIES.

WE HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT HAS A FLEAMARKET SET UP IN THE FRONT YARD, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THAT.

OR MAYBE THEY HAVE ABANDONED CARS OR WHATEVER. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THAT AND WE HAVE THE RESOURCES ON THE STREETS TO DO THAT, SO WE ARE DOING THAT AS WELL YOU'RE LOOKING FOR LOTS THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED. BASICALLY, NO IMPROVEMENT.

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ALSO LOOKING AT POSSIBLE CONDEMNATION NEEDS FOR ABANDONED OR DETERIORATED STRUCTURES.F THERE'S A BUILDING THAT'S THEIR, AND UNOCCUPIED, AND CLEARLY FALLING APART, WE NEED TO GET ORDINANCE STANDARDS INVOLVED AND DETERMINE IF THE PROPERTY CAN BE WORKED WITH TO GET UP TO SPEED, OR BULLDOZE IT AND USED A LOT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

THIS EFFORT WILL SERVE AS A STARTING POINT TO FOCUS OUR EFFORTS TO ALLEVIATE THE CONDITIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE SURVEY. HAVE ALREADY DONE THE WORK OF DOING THE SURVEY. THEY HAVE THE DATA. THEY ARE WORKING WITH GIS RIGHT NOW TO PUT THIS ON A MAP SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND WE WILL SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL ONCE THAT IS DONE. THEY ARE ACTIVELY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT, SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. WE NEED TO DETERMINE A TITLE FOR WHO OWNS THEM AND HOW FAR DOWN THE RABBIT TRAIL GOES. SOME OF THE REASONS PROPERTIES ARE NOT MAINTAINED IT'S BECAUSE OWNERSHIP IS CLOUDED, OR IT IS SEVERAL DIFFERENT INTERESTS, AND THEY MAY NOT BE AWARE THEY EVEN OWN IT. WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THAT. IF THERE'S A LOT OF TITLE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WE MIGHT NEED TO LOOK AT ENGAGING OUTSIDE SOURCES.

MY GUT TELLS ME WE MIGHT NEED TO ENGAGE OUTSIDE SOURCES. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF STAFF THAT CAN DO TITLE WORK. IF YOU HAVE 100 LOTS WERE 300 LOTS, YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN HOUSE. ONCE WE UNDERSTAND THE GROUND CONDITIONS IN THE OWNERSHIP, WE CAN BEGIN TO ADDRESS A STRATEGY IN WHICH WE CAN APPROACH THE BUILDING AND BANKING COMMUNITY. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T TALK TO THOSE FOLKS RIGHT NOW WHERE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY.HOSE CONVERSATIONS NEED TO BE TAKING PLACE.

AT SOME LEVEL, THEY ARE, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD DISCUSSION YET. I'VE HAD INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS.

IF THERE IS AN AVAILABILITY OF LOTS THAT CAN BE PURCHASED OR ACQUIRED, WE CAN TALK ABOUT LAND BANKING. IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OR OTHER FOUNDATIONS IN TOWN TO SET UP A LAND TRUST THAT CAN BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES? THESE ARE STRATEGIES OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE USED TO SOME SUCCESS. I TOLD YOU EARLY ON WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT WORKS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THERE ARE SOME TOOLS WE NEED TO USE IN DENISON, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO FIND TOOLS THAT WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY. A LAND TRUST HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND BROUGHT UP BY OTHER NONPROFIT PARTNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. THE OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND STAYS IN THIS TRUST.

THERE IS IMPROVEMENT BUILT ON THAT. THAT IMPROVEMENT IS TIED TO THE LAND. IT'S AFFORDABLE. THE OWNERSHIP OF THAT PERSON'S LOT, IT CAN'T BE TAKEN OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THEM. THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE, QUALITY HOUSE THAT IS THEIRS.

YOU CAN PARTNER WITH HABITAT OR OTHER NONPROFITS. IT IS A TOOL THAT HAS BEEN USED WELL IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. THERE IS FEDERAL DOLLARS USED FOR THIS.

WE SHOULD LOOK AT LEVERAGING ALL OF THOSE WHERE WE CAN. OTHER ITEMS YOU WANT TO TALK

ABOUT? >> CONCERNS ABOUT THE WHOLE LAND BANK PARAMETERS.

I THINK HABITAT MAY BE THE ONLY WHEN IN TOWN WORKING WITH THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS IDENTIFYING PARCELS OF LAND THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPED. THE OBJECTIVE IS TO HELP THOSE

NEIGHBORHOODS AND BE SURE WE COMMUNICATE CLEARLY. >> YES.

WE HAVE SAID CONSISTENTLY THIS IS NOT A GENTRIFICATION EXERCISE.

THIS IS HOW DO WE ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE MAINTAINING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FOLKS WHO CURRENTLY LIVE THERE TO LIVE THERE.

A LAND TRUST ALLOWS US TO DO THAT IN MANY WAYS. >> IN THIS FIRST STEP, CAN WE

ADD OTHER AREAS COULD KILL. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> NORTH AND NORTHWEST

CONVENTION CENTER. HOTEL. >> WE CERTAINLY CAN.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS PUT TWO AREAS OF HISTORIC IMPORTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WERE IN NEED

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OF ATTENTION FROM AN INVESTMENT STANDPOINT, AND GET THE PROJECT UP AND RUNNING FIRST.

IF I TACKLE THE WHOLE CITY AT ONCE, IS A RECIPE FOR FAILURE. >> I'M NOT SAYING THE WHOLE

CITY. I'M SAYING THAT LITTLE AREA. >> SURE.

>> I THINK THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS HAD THE FIRST SUPER PLANNED INVOLVEMENTS FOR THE CITY. THIS IS REALLY A 25-30 OR CONVERSATION WE HAVE HAD.

>> CONSISTENT WITH THE PRINCIPLES OF ANNIE. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR

QUESTIONS. >> I AGREE WITH DONOVAN. WE NEED TO START.

IT'S A GREAT START. IF IT STARTS WORKING, WE CAN DEAFLY EXPAND.

>> WE GO WHERE THE MARKET GOES, TOO. WE WANT TO START HERE.

FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT. WE WILL PIVOT. WE WILL RESPOND ACCORDINGLY.

IF WE SEE OPPORTUNITY. >> I MEAN, THERE ARE HARD DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE.

I REALIZE THAT. WE ARE NOT JUST BULLDOZING STRUCTURES.

WE ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THESE COMMUNITIES.

>> SO FAR WE HAVEN'T BULLDOZED ANY STRUCTURES. I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

>> IN DENISON, THEY HAVE THEIR DIFFICULTIES AND FALSE STARTS AND IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS FOR

US. >> YEAH. FINDING THE RIGHT RECIPE FOR US. RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON INFILL?

>> WE DO HAVE LAWS ON THE BOOKS OF CLEANING UP NEIGHBORHOODS. >> WE DO.

THAT'S WHY WE ARE DOING A WINDSHIELD TOUR. WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THAT.

WE HAVE THE TEAM THERE. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. GOOD.

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ADMIN STANDPOINT. I WANT TO GO TO THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS.

STANLEY, WE TALKED ABOUT YOU PRESENTING SOME OF THIS. LET'S GO OVER WHAT WE TALKED

ABOUT BEFORE. YOU MIND COMING UP? >> SURE.

>> THIS IS FROM THE LAST DISCUSSION WE HAD. GREEN IS ITEMS I HEARD COUNCIL SAYING, YES, LET'S LOOK AT ADDRESSING. THE RED WAS A HARD NO.

OUR CHARTER SHOULD NOT CONTRADICT STATUTE. IT'S JUST AN EASY THING TO SOLVE. BASICALLY, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS GENDER-NEUTRAL LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER. CORRECTING SOME OF THE REPORTING SO THE CHARTER REFLECTS AND DOESN'T CONTRADICT ITSELF IN CERTAIN AREAS AND REFLECTS OUR PRACTICE WHEN IT COMES TO APPOINTMENTS OF DIRECTORS AND BOARDS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

IN GENERAL, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FROM A GENDER-NEUTRAL STANDPOINT.

THIS IS REALLY WHERE STANLEY HAS SOME SLIDES.OU WANT TO PRESENT THESE?

>> REAL QUICKLY, JUST A FOLLOW-UP ON WHAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST COUNCIL MEETING, AGAIN, IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT IT COULD BE DONE THE CHARTER BECOME GENDER-NEUTRAL MAKE THOSE CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE CHARTER WHERE THE WORDS ARE USED. THAT'S ONE OPTION.

AS THE PROPOSED CHANGE WE COULD HAVE THE VOTERS VOTE ON. NOTHER PROPOSED CHANGE IS CLEAN UP SOME OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE PARKS ON THEIR DUTIES.

PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR TO FALL IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR PRACTICES ARE.

CURRENTLY THE PARKS BOARD AND THE CHARTER IS TO IMPLEMENT POLICIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THE PARKS BOARD HAS STARKLY NOT DONE THAT. THE CITY ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE THAT. ALSO THE CREATION OF THE DIRECTOR TO HAVE THE DIRECTOR BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY MANAGER IN THE CHARTER TO SERVE AS TECHNICAL ADVISOR FOR PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AND HAVE THE STATUS OF THE DIRECTOR AS OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE.

THAT IS CURRENTLY WHAT OUR PRACTICE IS TO HAVE OUR CHARTER BE IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR PRACTICE IS. THAT'S WHAT OUR PRACTICE HAS BEEN FOR YEARS TO HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY MANAGER. THESE ARE TWO CLEANUP MATTERS.

THE THIRD THING IS A PROVISION FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. SUBMITTING ANNUAL TO THE CITY MANAGER PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING BUDGET NOT LESS THAN 90 DAYS A LIST OF CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S OCCURRING. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE USE. MORE OF A CLEANUP MATTER. FINALLY, POLITICAL ACTIVITY.

WE HAVE A PROVISION IN OUR CHARTER WIWHICH MANY CHARTERS HAVE.

EMPLOYEES NOT TO ENGAGE IN POLITICAL ACTIVITIES FOR ELECTIONS.

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CARVEOUT POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS. JUST TO CLEAN THAT UP IN THE CHARTER TO ALLOW FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS TO FOLLOW THE SPECIFIC RULES THAT APPLY TO THEM AS FAR AS PARTICIPATING IN LOCAL ELECTIONS. THESE ARE CLEANUP MATTERS WE CAN BRING TO THE VOTERS WHEN WE HAVE AN ELECTION. THIS IS A CHART OR SLIDE ABOUT THE PROCEDURE. WE PASS AN ORDINANCE WITH TWO READINGS.

HOLD AN ELECTION ON ELECTION DAY. WE AMENDED OUR CHARTER IN 2006.

WE DID THAT BY VOTE IN NOVEMBER. ALSO 1997 WE HAD AN ELECTION IN MAY. MY ADVICE WOULD BE IF WE ARE GOING TO HOLD A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR SOMETHING IN NOVEMBER IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO DO THIS AS WELL, OR TO HAVE IT IN MAY WHEN WE HAVE AN ELECTION SCHEDULED. ANY QUESTION ABOUT ANY OF THESE CHANGES? THERE COULD BE OTHER MATTERS THE COUNSELOR BELIEVES WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES IN OUR CHARTER THAT WE CAN ALSO ADD TO THESE. THESE ARE SOME THAT WE FEEL LIKE MAYBE SOME CLEANUP IS NEEDED. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> DO YOU THINK MAY IS TOO QUICK TO EDUCATE PEOPLE WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT? OTHER CITIES THAT HAVEDONE CHARTER, IS THERE A LOT ? I DON'T REMEMBER THE 2006 ELECTION, BUT IS THERE A LOT OF CHANGES I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF EDUCATION THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. MAYBE SOME LAG TIME FOR EDUCATION.

FOR THE PUBLIC. I THINK THESE COULD BE IMPLEMENTING FAIRLY QUICKLY.

>> WE COULD NOT MAKE MAY. >> NOT THIS ONE. >> WE COULDN'T BECAUSE WE WOULD

HAVE TO HAVE TWO MEETINGS. >> YEAH. >> THE NEVERMIND.

SCRATCH THAT FROM THE RECORD. >> NEXT MAY. >> IF WE HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO DO THIS, OTHERWISE IT JUST COSTS US MONEY. LET'S PUSH THROUGH. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SOMEONE SCORED A TOUCHDOWN OR SOMETHING IS GOING ON. (LAUGHS) THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE WAY OF DOING THIS WOULD BE TO DO IT IN MAY UNLESS THERE IS IN NOVEMBER

ELECTION FOR SOME REASON. >> WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW BECAUSE WE NEED TO PLAN FOR IT

AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY. >> YES. THE NEXT COURSE OF ACTION WOULD BE BRINGING ORDINANCE TO COUNCIL THAT SPELLED OUT THE CHANGE, SPELLED OUT THE BALLOT MEASURES AND VOTE ON THOSE PROPOSITIONS. STANLEY AND I CAN WORK ON THAT TO GET THAT DONE. MIKE, DO YOU WANT TO COME TALK ABOUT NUMBERS? HE WAITS ALL YEAR TO DO THIS BY THE WAY. IT'S LIKE HIS CHRISTMAS.

>> IT'S ALL HE EVER TALKS ABOUT. (LAUGHS).

>> A NUMBERS KIND OF GUY. >> GOOD MORNING, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.

WHAT WE LIKE TO DO EVERY YEAR IS PRESENT THIS SCENARIO, KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL PROJECTION OF WHAT THE FINANCIAL NUMBERS LOOK LIKE BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO OCCUR.

IN THE FIRST SCENARIO, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS INCREASED PROPERTY TAX BY THREE AND A HALF PERCENT WHICH IS OUR CAT. 2 PERCENT INCREASE IN SALES TAX.

MADE SOME REDUCTIONS FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS SAFER PROGRAM WHICH EXPIRES THIS MONTH AT THE END OF THE GRAM. FOR THE EXPENDITURES, WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME MEET AND CONFER OBLIGATIONS COMING UP. WE INCREASED THE TAX RATE FOR THAT CONVENTION CENTER IMPROVEMENTS BY THREEHAPPENING PERCENT , AND ALSO SELF-INSURANCE.

AND THEN PLACED 5 PERCENT UNDER OUR POLICY IN THE MINOR IMPROVEMENT FUND OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD. WE HAVE FAITH THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.

WE STARTED THAT FOR 22. FULLY FUNDED THE POLICE APPARATUS FUNDS.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WE FIND THAT THIS YEAR WITH THE MINOR IMPROVEMENT FUND DOLLARS AND SO NEXT YEAR PLUG THAT INTO BE FUNDED BY GENERAL FUND. NO CAPITAL OUTLAYS IN THE MINOR IMPROVEMENT FUND OR COST OF YOU WILL SEE THE 90 DAY RESERVES.

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IT LOOKS GOOD. FAIRLY FLAT THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.

IT ACTUALLY GOES DOWN SLIGHTLY NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF THE POLICE APPARATUS FUNDS.

THAT'S $1.1 MILLION OUTLAY WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH, AND THEN STARTS TO RISE AGAIN AND THINGS LOOK MUCH BETTER. HERE IS THE FUND BALANCE. YOU WILL SEE 96 DAYS OF FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF 22. IT GOES DOWN SLIGHTLY AND RECOVERS WELL OVER 100 DAYS.

THE SECOND ANALYSIS WE DID THE SAME THING. WE ADDED 2 PERCENT PERSONNEL INCREASE TO EXPENDITURES. YOU WILL SEE THAT PUTS A LITTLE MORE STRESS ON THE FUND BALANC . IT STARTS TO DECLINE SLIGHTLY, SO THAT WILL BE A CHALLENGE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AS WE GO THROUGH THE UPCOMING BUDGETS. AGAIN, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR THE FUND BALANCE. YOU WILL SEE IT'S GOING DOWN SLIGHTLY EVERY YEAR.

THE WATER UTILITIES FUND WE DID BASICALLY THE SAME THING. WE DIDN'T INCREASE REVENUE FOR ANY PRICE INCREASES. RATE INCREASES WE MADE CHANGES FOR EXISTING DEBT SERVICE AND MOOD 5 PERCENT OF UTILITY SALES TO A CAPITAL PROJECT FUND OVER THREE YEAR PERIOD.

90 DAY RESERVES LOOKS GOOD. THE DARK BLUE LINE REPRESENTS MONIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. THAT'S ASSUMING WE DON'T UTILIZE THOSE IN ANY OF THOSE YEARS. IT JUST STAYS THERE AND IS IN A FAIRLY GOOD POSITION.

AGAIN, HERE IS THE FUND BALANCE RESERVE NUMBERS AND THEY LOOK VERY GOOD.

ONLY DIFFERENCE WE MADE IN SCENARIO TWO IS 2 PERCENT INCREASE IN PERSONNEL COSTS.

AGAIN, THEY'RE DOING VERY WELL. YOU SEE VERY LITTLE CHANGE. PERSONNEL COSTS ARE SUCH A SMALL PART OF THE WATER UTILITIES FUND. AGAIN, HERE IS THE RESERVE NUMBERS. SELF-INSURANCE FUND. WE INCREASE THE REVENUE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT FROM THE PREMIUM ON THE TAX RATE WE ARE SENDING TO THE GENERAL FUND.

NO INCREASE ON TAX EXPENDITURES. THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND HAS RECOVERED VERY WELL. IF YOU RECALL THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE HAVE STRUGGLED WITH TRYING TO COVER CLAIMS AND PRESCRIPTION DRUG COSTS. ECAUSE OF THE CHANGES WE HAVE MADE, AND CHANGING OUR PROVIDERS PRIMARILY, HAS MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN OUR COSTS.

YOU WILL SEE IT HAS RECOVERED NICELY, AND IS ACTUALLY GROWING, THE FUND BALANCE, FOR THE SELF-INSURANCE. LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBERS, YOU WILL SEE THAT IS REALLY LOOKING GOOD. YOU GO TO SCENARIO TWO, WE ADDED A PERCENT INCREASE IN HEALTH CLAIMS AND TWO PERCENT IN HEALTH COSTS. IT STARTS TO DECLINE AFTER THE FOURTH OR FIFTH YEAR, BUT STILL TAKES A LITTLE BIT FOR THAT TO TAKE PLACE.

WE THINK THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND IS LOOKING MUCH BETTER THAN IT HAS IN YEARS.

THAT IS THE RESERVE NUMBERS. IT GOES UP AND STARTS TO COME DOWN BECAUSE OF THE INCREASING

CLAIMS COSTS. WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> IS THERE A SALARY INCREASE

FOR MEET AND CONFER? >> MEET AND CONFER WAS BUILT INTO THAT BECAUSE THOSE ARE KNOWN INCREASES FOR THOSE AGREEMENTS. WE HAVE FISCAL YEAR 23 THE FINAL YEAR FOR FIRE. WE CAN CONFER FOLLOWING YEARS FOR POLICE.

>> HOW MUCH IS THAT? 2 PERCENT? >> IT'S GOING TO DEPEND BECAUSE WE KIND OF BUILD THAT INTO AN AVERAGE PLUS CALCULATION. I THINK THEY ARE GUARANTEED 2 PERCENT, BUT IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT THE NUMBER LOOKS LIKE.

>> IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED FORMULA. IT TAKES ABOUT A PAGE.OF 2

PERCENT. >> RIGHT. >> I WILL SAY THIS WITHOUT OPENING NEGOTIATIONS. WE GOING TO VERY GOOD JOB TAKING CARE OF OUR CITY SERVICE EMPLOYEES. WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF THAT. WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR

NONSERVICE EMPLOYEES, TOO. >> I WANT TO MENTION THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND. AM PROUD OF THE WORK WE HAVE DONE THERE. IT HASN'T BEEN EASY.

IT HAS COME AT A COST FOR OUR EMPLOYEES IN THIS ORGANIZATION. IT'S WORKING.

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THAT WILL CONTINUE TO WORK. ONE OF THE STRATEGIES WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT IS POTENTIALLY RESTORING BENEFITS BACK TO THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAD TO TAKE AWAY, COST-SAVING MEASURES, WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING THE FUND. THERE MAY BE FURTHER TALK ON HOW BEST TO LOCATE THE PENNY AS WELL IN LIGHT OF STREET MAINTENANCE. THESE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE WILL

HAVE WITH YOU ALL AT FUTURE COUNCIL DISCUSSIONS. >> THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE GOTTEN UP TO TALK ABOUT SELF-INSURANCE AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE A SMILE ON YOUR

FACE. >> I DO NOW. >> NOW YOU DO.

THAT'S GOOD. >> HONESTLY, THE PLAN CHANGES WERE HELPFUL.

THEY KEPT OUR HEAD ABOVE WATER. BIGGEST CHANGE WAS OUR PROVIDER SWITCH.

IT'S NIGHT AND DAY. WE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT THAT. IT IS CLEARLY BEARING OUT. A GOOD DECISION ON COUNCIL'S PART TO MAKE THAT SWITCH. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT FRONTLINE UTILITIES.

THIS IS A CONVERSATION, FAIRLY QUICKLY. WE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM AEP THAT WOULD CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD MANDATE ALL UTILITIES, SUN LINK, AT&T AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. AT THE DEPARTURE WHAT THE ORGANIZATIONS COMMITTEE HAS DONE. AEP PREFERENCE TO HAVE THIS BE A REQUIREMENT TO INSTILL UNIFORMITY ALSO HELPS ALLOW THEM -- BY HAVING AN ORDINANCE AND MANDATING IT, IT HELPS THEM BE COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER ELECTRIC PROVIDERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY USE THAT AS A LEVERAGE POINT, WHERE THERE IS DUAL CERTIFICATION ELECTRIC AND AEP.

THEY RECOGNIZE THEY CAN DO THIS NOW UNDER THE ORDINANCE, LINDA VELTMAN CODE.

THEY CAN SAY, LET'S PUT THEM HERE. AGAIN, IT CREATES A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE FOR THEM. SOME DEVELOPERS PARTNER WITH AEP AND SOME DON'T.

SOME FEEL VERY STRONG ABOUT THAT. YOU RECEIVED A LETTER, I BELIEVE, FROM ONE DEVELOPER. THE MAYOR DID FOR SURE. SAID, HEY, I WORK HARD TO MAKE MY FRONTLINES ATTRACTIVE AND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HURT THAT.

I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. WHAT IS THE FRONT LOT UTILITY? IN THIS EXAMPLE, THE UTILITY SERVITUDE WERE IT WILL BE LOCATED.

ORDINARILY IN THE BACKYARD. THE YELLOW PORTION IS THE FRONT OF HOUSE.

BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE HOUSE YOU WOULD HAVE A LITTLE TELECOM POSTS.

WE HAVE SEEN THAT IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL.

YOU ALSO SEE SOME PEOPLE GO THROUGH EXTRAORDINARY MEASURES TO HIDE.

THEY PUT LIPSTICK ON THE PIG SO TO SPEAK. IT'S A PHILOSOPHY POINT.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WHY WOULD AP WANT TO DO THIS? BECAUSE IT FUNDAMENTALLY PROVIDES BETTER SAFETY FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. JUST HERE VERY RECENTLY APD CHIEF RESPONDED BECAUSE THEY HAD A AP WORKER TRYING TO DO HIS JOB AND HE GOT SHOT AT BY A HOMEOWNER. WE HAVE HAD THREATS TO AP EMPLOYEES FROM PEOPLE ABOUT, WHY ARE YOU IN MY BACKYARD? IT CAN BE DISCONCERTING. MY WIFE AND I BUILT A NEW HOUSE AND PUT BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPING IN THE BACKYARD. I HAD A LINE GUY COME BY AND SPRAY AND PUT FLAGS ALL OVER THE PLACE. HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO WALK BACK THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE UTILITIES ARE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT STILL IRRITATES ME. AS PART OF HAVING PUBLIC UTILITIES.HIS WOULD CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS SAFER FOR AP THAT CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND RESTORE SERVICES MORE COST-EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY FROM A TIME CONSTRAINT.

THE BAD THING IS IT'S AN AESTHETIC ISSUE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE GROUND OR UNDERGROUND UTILITIES. IT CAN BE ABOVEGROUND UTILITIES.

IT COULD BE THEY START PUTTING TELEPHONE POLES IN THE FRONT YARDS AND ELECTRIC LINES ON TOP OF THEM. THAT IS ALSO ALLOWED. THAT IS NOT THEIR INTENT AND I BELIEVE THEM HOWEVER WE CANNOT MANDATE ON THE GROUND OF ELECTRICITY OR UNDERGROUND UTILITIES WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR THE COST TO OFFSET THE UTILITY AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT OBVIOUSLY. THE POINT OF THIS WHOLE THING IS TWO THINGS.

IN TRYING TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT ALLOWS THEM TO FIX POWER CONCERNS IN A BETTER

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FASHION WITHOUT INTERRUPTING SOMEBODY'S LIFE MORE THAN THEY EVER HAVE, BECAUSE THE LIGHTS ARE OUT. BUT IT DOES CREATE CLEARLY SOME OBSTACLES AS WELL.

>> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE FRONT .

IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE AAP BUT BY MANDATE, IF THAT WOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD, ALL UTILITIES, IN THE JUST THE FRONT

LINES. >> UNLESS IT'S BEEN DICTATED ELECTRIC UTILITY ONLY AND I HAVE TO PREFER TO MICHAEL REISS ON THIS, BUT TYPICALLY WHAT YOU DO IS GENERAL UTILITIES, PUBLIC UTILITY HAS THE RIGHT TO USE THAT EASEMENT FOR THOSE PURPOSE.

>> FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF POLES.

>> CORRECT. >> POLES ARE CHEAPER.

THEY ALWAYS ARE, THAT'S RIGHT. >> I JUST -- I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATION BUT WANT TO IMPLY IT --

>> IS THAT THE BALANCE OF COUNCIL?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. YES.

>> OKAY. SO I'LL LET A.P. KNOW THAT WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE PRESENT ARRANGEMENT.

OKAY. >> THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

>> IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE. THANK YOU, AND STAFF FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THE TIME AND EFFORT TO LISTEN TO SOME OF OUR CONCERNS AND PRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS.

THANKS SENTENCE FOR THOSE WHO CAME AND THOSE WHO ARE PARTICIPATING ONLINE AND WELCOME THEIR INPUT, AND I LOOK FORWARD MANY CONVERSATIONS. I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCES IT 12:03 P.M. AND THIS MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL IS OFFICIALLY

ADJOURNED. >> THANK YOU.

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