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>> JOIN TOGETHER AS NEIGHBORS TO THINK ABOUT AND PLAN THE WAY OUR CITY IS CONTINUING TO GROW AND PROSPER, I THANK YOU FOR THE BRAVE HEARTS REPRESENTED IN THIS ROOM AND THE WAY THAT WE CAN BEST SPEAK OUT OH AND SPEAK FOR THOSE THAT LIVE IN THE BIG COUNTRY. BE WITH YOUR FAMILIES AND CONTINUE TO HEAL US AND KEEP US SAFE. WE THANK YOU FOR THE CONTINUES POSITIVE HEALTH NUMBERS IN OUR Y AND WE ASK GOD THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO GIVE US A SEASON OF REST AND HEALING. WE LOVE YOU AND WE GIVE YOU ALL OF OUR PRAISE, AMEN.
>> AMEN. >> THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON APPROVAL OF PLATS, HOWEVER, IT ACTS AS A RECOMMENDING BOARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN MATTERS OF ZONING. NO LATER THAN 10 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS MEETING, APPEALS MUST BE IN WRITING. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING UNDER DISCUSSION BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THOSE WISHING TO BE HEARD, APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND PURPOSES. OUR FIRST ITEM ON OUR
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AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.IS EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM. IS THERE ANY
DISCUSSION OR MOTION IT. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND.
>> PUBLIC HEARING? >> DID YOU SAY THAT?
>> I ALWAYS GET AHEAD OF MYSELF.
>> JUST IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
>> OUR WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK?
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>> SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING CHLTH WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
>> OUR NEXT ITEM IS PLATS, ADAM, YOU'RE UP, BUDDY.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS ADAM HOLLAND AND I'M A PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE. THE FIRST PLAT IS BP 0422 AND THAT'S WATERSIDE AT CEDAR CREEK. THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT IN SOUTH ABILENE, IT'S BEEN REVIEWND AND BEEN FOUND CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER THREE ARTICLE TWO OF THE LINE BELTMAN COULD SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> YOU'VE GOT 6 PLATS ON HERE, I THINK, DO YOU DO THEM ALL AT
ONCE? >> I THINK HE WAS JUST ASKING
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> NO. THE NEXT PLAT IS FP 1422 MILL RIDGE ESTATES SUBDIVISION. AND, THIS PLAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AN FOUND CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER THREE ARTICLE TWO OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS THAT WE BE FURNISHED WITH A TITLE OPINION OR TITLE COMMITMENT LETTER AND CONFIRMING OWNERSHIP OF ALL PROPERTIES AND ALL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE COMPLETED IN ACCORDANCE WITH APPROVED PLANS. ANY QUESTIONS,
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> WE'RE GOOD.
>> AND THE NEXT PLAT IS FP 1922, THE SAMMAC ADDITION, THE PLAT IS REVIEWED AND FOUND CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 3 ARTICLE 2 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. ALL PUBLIC APPROVELES MUST BE COMPLETED IN ACCORDANCE TO APPROVED PLANS.
QUESTIONS? >> THE NEXT PLAT IS THE FINAL PLAT FOR WATERSIDE AT CEDAR TRICK, SECTION ONE. FP 2122 THIS HAS BEEN FOUND CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 3 ARTICLE 2 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS THAT THE CITY STAFF MUST BE FURNISHED WITH A TITLE OPINION OR A TITLE COMMITMENT AND ALL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE COMPLETED AND INSPECTED. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PLAT?
>> OUR NEXT PLAT IS FP 2422, BUTTER FIELD MEADOWS CHAPTER 5.
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THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. CITY STAFF MUST BE FURNISHED WITH A TITLE OPINION OR A TITLE COMMITMENT. HERITAGE PARK SECTION 12. THIS PLAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND FOUND CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 3 ARTICLE 2 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. CITY STAFF MUST BE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. ALL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE COMPLETED AND INSPECTED AND A MYLAR SHOWING METES MUST BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY STAFF.THIS STAFF IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. 2722 FOR HAMPTON HILLS, SECTION NINE. THIS PLAT IS FOUND CONSIST SENT WITH CHAPTER 3 ARTICLE TWO OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND STAFFER RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, THE CONDITIONS ARE THE UTILITY EASEMENT WILL BE AMENDED TO SHOW A NO-ACCESS EASEMENT. LOT MBS AND BLOCK NAMES WILL BE CONTINUED IN ADJACENT BLOCKS AND NEW BLOCK NAMES WILL NOT BE REPEATED
WITHIN THIS SUBDIVISION. >> ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU, ADAM. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ANYONE OF THESE PLATS? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN FURTHER DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.
>> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. >> I'LL SECOND.
>> WITH ALL CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF?
>> YES. WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS.
>> I'LL GO TO ROLL CALL, HOWEVER, MR. JROSENBAUM HAS RECUSED HIMSELF FROM WATER AT CEDAR CREEK PLATS.
(ROLL CALL) >> AND I RECUSE FROM 0422 AND FP 2122 YES ON THE REST. I HAVE RECUSE CUP 202201 WHICH IS MY PLAT, BUT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE NEXT THING UP?
>> THAT'S THE NEXT THING UP. >> BUT WILL STILL LEAVE FOUR OF
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>> MOVE ONTO OUR ZONING CASES THE FIRST IS CUP 2022-01, REQUEST TO ALLOW THE USE OF A TATTOO STUDIO WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ON LOTS ONE THROUGH 6 BLOCK 74, 536 HICKORY
STREET. . >> CITY PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE, THIS IS OUR CASE, CUP 2022-01 LOCATED AT 542 HICKORY STREET, JUST TO FIX AN ERROR IN THE ADDRESS, HERE IS A LOCATION MAP SHOWING THE PARCELS AFFECTED BY THE CUP, THE LOCATION IS THE NORTHERN MOST PART OF IT LOCATION MAP. AND HERE IS A ZONING MAP SHOWING ALL OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN THIS AREA AND AS YOU COULD SEE, UP IN THE NORTH LEFT TOP MOST PORTION OF THIS THERE'S A SMALL MED OF MD BUT THE REST IS ALL CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. HERE'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE ACT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE PROMOTES INFILL OF REDEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS AREA OF THE CITY OF ABILENE. HARP ARE PHOTOS SHOWING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THIS PROPERTY WAS ONCE A FUNERAL HOME, AND NOW IT IS BEING RECONDITIONED TO BE USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES THAT ARE ALLOWED USES IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. WE SENT OUT NOTIFICATIONS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THIS PROPERTY AND WE RECEIVED TWO OPPOSITIONS CREATING A% OPPOSITION OF 2.7%. THAT HE DID
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NOT INCLUDE ANY REMARKS IN THEIR OPPOSITION LETTERS. WE HAVE REVIEWED THIS AND IT WAS FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE FUTURE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT PLANNED MAPS AND WE REVIEWED IT PURSUANT TO SECTION 1.35 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND STAFF RECO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.>> SO, WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO ALLOW IS A CONDITIONAL USE IN A CP ZONING? CORRECT? FOR A TATTOO STUDIO?
>> ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? >> BEFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SINCE WE'VE HAD TWO OF OUR MEMBERS RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM THE DISCUSSION, THAT LEAVES FOUR, FOR THIS FOR US TO APPROVE IT AND FOR IT TO MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO HAVE A 4-0 VOTE. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE 7 HERE OR FOUR HERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A 4-0 VOTE TO APPROVE OR DECLINE AN ITEM. AND SO, YOU DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, WHOEVER THE PROPONENT IS DOES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PULL THIS OFF THE TABLE AND WAIT UNTIL WE COULD HAVE ONE MORE PERSON HERE TO HAVE A FIVE POTENTIAL. RIGHT NOW, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON
ANY OF THIS. >> CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, SINCE IT'S A ZONING CASE, IF WE VOTED NOT TO APPROVE IT IT WOULD
STILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL? >> NO, IF WE DENY IT'S DONE
HERE. >> THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES?
>> BUT IF WE HAVE A 3-1 VOTE, IT'S DENIED.
>> OKAY. >> ANY DISCUSSION AMONG US?
>> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO US ABOUT THIS CASE?
>> YES, MA'AM. >> HI, SORRY, YOU'LL HAVE TO EXCUSE ME, I SPEAK QUIETLY BY NATURE. MIME BAILEY HYDE, I'M THE POTENTIAL OWNER AND THE ONE THAT PUT IN THE APPLICATION FOR THIS CUP. JUST TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT I'M B I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN ABILENE, TEXAS. I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT FACT. I WAS A GRADUATE FROM COOPER HHIGH SCHOOL, I HAVE UNFORTUNATELY BEEN IN OKLAHOMA FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND NOW I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE MOVING BACK TO ABILENE. I'M VERY PROUD OF WHERE I'M FROM. MY TIME IN ABILENE NURTURED A VERY, VERY, DEEP LOVE FOR ART AND COMMUNITY AND CULTURE, AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING THAT THE DOWNTOWN AREA OF ABILENE HAS BEEN REALLY STRIVING TO WORK TOWAR TOWARDS. I DID GO ONTO URN MY MASTERS AND WHEN WORKING ON MY MASTER'S DEGREE THAT'S WHEN I STARTED WORKING ON MY TATTOO APPRENTICESHIP. MY PARENTS WERE NOT SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT, INITIALLY, BUT I HAVE SINCE HAD THEM COME AROUND WHEN THEY LEARNED ABOUT IT AND ABOUT WHAT I FELT WAS VERY IMPORTANT AND THAT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT. MY PSYCHOLOGY DEGREE, EVEN THOUGH I DID NOT CONTINUE TO GET THE PHD THAT I PROMISED MY MOM, MY PSYCHOLOGY DEGREE DIDN'T STOP WHEN I BEGAN TATTOOING. I BELIEVE THAT TATTOOING IS A VERY VULNERABLE EXPERIENCE AND INTIMATE EXPERIENCE AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE HANDLED DECK INDICATELY AND VERY OPENLY BETWEEN A TATTOO ARTIST AND CLIENTS. SO THAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THOSE TWO PEOPLE IS VERY IMPORTANT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ALMOST ACREED, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY, INTIMATE TO THOSE TWO PEOPLE. I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A VERY ANTIQUE WAY OF THINKING OF THE WAY TATTOO PARLORS ARE HANDLED. I BELIEVE THAT TATTOOS ARE NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES, OF COURSE, IT'S CREATIVITY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE USE FOR HEALING PURPOSES. TOOT TOOING CAN BE HEAL ARE FOR A PERSON AND I REALLY SUPPORT THAT SIDE OF TATTOOING IN PARTICULAR. EVEN THOUGH IT TENDS TO COME WITH IT'S OWN BIAS, I LITTLE BIT. PEOPLE TEND TO LOOK AT IT AND NOT NECESSARILY LIKE IT SO MUCH. I THNG IT'S VERY
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IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE FEEL SAFE AND THEY FEEL THAT THEY CAN COME SOMEWHERE AND BE WELCOMED WITH THEIR IDEAS AN BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO WITH THEIR TATTOOING, WHETHER THAT BE HEALING OR SOME KIND OF SELF EXPRESSION. AGAIN, WE DON'T REALLY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THE OLD SCHOOL METHOD OF TATTOOING, OR THE WAY THAT THE CULTURE USED TO BE THAT WAS MORE BIKERS, HEATHENS, PEOPLE THAT ARE IT GET GETTING TATTOOED NOW ARE MOTHERS, FATHERS, GRANDMOTHERS.I HAD A 80-YEAR-OLD GRANDMOTHER WHO CAME TO GET HER GRANDCHILDREN'S NAMES ON HER. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT THE TATTOO PARLORS HAVE CHANGED AND THE FACT THAT TATTOO SHOPS NEED TO CHANGE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING INTO A SPACE TO BE TATTOOED AND NOT GO SOMEWHERE THEY THAT DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WALKING INTO THE BUILDING. FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE. I'VE IT RECENTLY BECOME AN AWARD WINNING TATTOO ARTIST WHICH I'M PROUD OF. I'M BEEN ASKED SO TRAVEL TO DIFFERENT PLACE, THE FURTHEST, MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE. I HAVE IN CLIENTS REACH OUT FROM AS FAR AS ITALY AND I HAVE HAD CLIENTS TRAVEL TO SEE ME FROM MICHIGAN AND SOUTH CAROLINA. WITH A SUCCESSFUL TATTOO STUDIO SUCH AS WHAT WE'RE TRYING DO WITH A PRIVATE LUXURY SPACE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT NOT ONLY WILL PEOPLE BE TRAVELING IN TO GET TATTOOS, THEY WILL BE NEEDING LODGING, FOOD AND ENTERTAINMENT. IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THEY WILL BE SPENDING MONEY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND POTENTIALLY OTHER PLACE IN ABILENE TRULY SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES AND BEING ABLE TO PUT IN REVENUE TO SPACES LIKE THAT AS WELL. I REALLY IT DO WANT TO FOCUS MOSTLY ON THE FACT THAT THE SHOP AND STUDIO THAT WE'RE WANTING TO PROPOSE IS MORE OF A PRIVATE LUXURY EXPERIENCE. WE'RE LOOKING TO FOCUS MOSTLY ON COMFORT, CLEANLINESS, CREATIVITY, FOSTERING A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COME AND EXPERIENCE THAT. VERY, WARM AND WELCOMING RECEPTION AREA, A WAITING AREA THAT FEATURES SOME VERY NICE ANTIQUE FURNITURE THAT MY MOTHER'S IS VERY PROUD OF THAT SHE'S ACCUMULATED, BUT ALSO BOOTHS AND AREAS WHERE THE TATTOOING CAN TAKE PLACE THAT WOULD BE PRIVATE AND OF THE UTMOST SANITATION. IF I MAY, I DO HAVE PICTURES TO PASS AROUND AND SHOW SORT OF WHAT OUR IDEA IS, OR SOME INSPIRATION PICTURES.
>> AND SHE'S GOING TO SEND THESE TO YOU, MELISSA, SO THEY
CAN BECOME PART OF THE RECORD. >>
>> SO, WITH THAT, IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS FOR ME, THAT IS ALL I
HAVE LEFT TO SAY ON THAT MATTER. >> THANK YOU, DOES ANYBODY HAVE
QUESTIONS? >> ARE YOU THE ONLY TATTOO
ARTIST IN THIS LOCATION? >> AS OF RIGHT NOW, YES.
>> OKAY. >> WILL YOU BE THE ONLY BUSINESS ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? THAT'S A PRETTY BIG
PARKING LOT. >> NO, WE WOULD BE TOMY UNDERSTANDING IS THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
>> OKAY. SO, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE IN
THAT SPACE. >> THERE WILL BE MORE BUSINESSES IN THAT COMPLEX THAT HAS BEEN RENOVATED?
>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
>> ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO VISIT WITH US?
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>> I'M DR. JIM SULLIVAN AND I'VE BEEN IN ABILENE FOR 36 YEARS NOW. AND I WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK YOU JUST DID A GREAT JOB.
>> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE ELOQUENT.
>> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> JIM, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. >> 1317 NORTH 8TH STREET. BACK ABOUT 35 YEARS AGO, I GOT TOGETHER WITH THE BUSINESSES AT THE TIME THAT WERE LOCATED ON HICKORY STREET AND WE HAD A HICKORY HISTORIC COMMITTEE AND THE IDEA WAS TO BUILD HICKORY STREET TO MAKE IT AMEANABLE TO OUTSIDE PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, I'VE WORKED THERE FOR 36 YEARS NOW. AND I THINK THIS REALLY HAS TO DO WITH A BIASSED PERCEPTION. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK OF A WORD, IF I SAID A CHURCH, RIGHT AWAY YOU HAVE AN IMAGINE. IF I SAY, TEXAS TECH, SOME OF YOU HAVE ONE PICTURE AND SOME OF YOU HAVE ANOTHER. AND CERTAINLY IF WE TALKED ABOUT OKLAHOMA, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ALMOST UNIFIED PERCEPTION ON THAT. AND SOME OF THOSE PERCEPTIONS ARE QUITE HONESTLY UNFAIR WHEN WE THINK ABOUT A DRUG ADDICT, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE HEAR THAT AND MAY BE YOU HAVE AN IMAGE OF WHAT A DRUG ADDICT LOOKS LIKE. I'VE SEEN PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE ALL MY LIFE, I'VE SEEN PHYSICIANS WHO WERE BASICALLY DRUG ADDICTS, MUCH, MUCH, DIFFERENT THAN THAT. IF YOU HEAR SOMEBODY IS FROM NEW JERSEY, YOU GET A PICTURE OF WHAT SOMEONE LIKE THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. BY THE WAY, I'M FROM JERSEY, DO YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT. AND I THINK MAY BE THAT SAME THING IS TRUE AND UNFAIRLY SO ABOUT A TATTOO STUDIO MUCH THE IMAGE THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT MOST PEOPLE THINK OF WHEN THINKING ABOUT A TATTOO STUDIO. SHE'S MADE IT CLEAR THAT SHE'S DISTANCED HERSELF FROM THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT, I THINK SHE'S IN THE MINORITY OF THAT, IF SHE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS MESSAGE OUT FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD, SHE WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT SPOKESPERSON FOR TATTOO ART. I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE HAVE THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT I HAVE NOW FOR WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO THERE.
IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE KIND OF IMAGE THAT THE DOWNTOWN AREA NEEDS TO PROJECT. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN FOR THE ART DISTRICT DOWNTOWN, WE'RE PUTTING UP A BIG HOTEL AND THIS IS LITERALLY IN THE SHADOW OF THE HOTEL AND IT'S ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM IT. IT'S UNFAIR AS CAN BE, BUT TALK WITH PEOPLE CREATE YOUR OWN IMAGE OF WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU THINK OF A TATTOO STUDIO. YOU THINK OF THE ARE OLD WAYS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE WILL THINK ABOUT WHEN THEY THINK ABOUT DOWNTOWN IF IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE SHADOW OF THE HOTEL AND THE CONVENTION CENTER. SO, UM, I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT, WETHER OR NOT THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE IMAGE THAT WE WORKED SO HARD FOR DOWNTOWN TO CREATE. IT'S THE SAME DEAL WITH PAWN SHOPS AND OTHER PLACES THAT JUST, HAVE A BIASSED PERCEPTION. RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY, IT'S A PIE I CAN'T SAID PERCEPTION. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT IS FOR THE
COMMUNITY. OKAY. >> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TO
US? >> HI, MY NAME IS GA GAVIN PRDEGREE. I'VE BEEN A LONG TIME ABILENE RESIDENT AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR CREATING THE RENAISSANCE THAT'S HAPPENING IN DOWNTOWN ABILENE RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY, REALLY AWESOME TO SEE. TO SPEAK A LITTLE TO WHAT THAT GENTLEMAN SAID, I DO AGREE. I THINK THERE'S A PERCEPTION, AN
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ANTIQUATED PERCEPTION OF TATTOO STUDIOS. I KNOW MY MY AGE RANGE IS NOT THE ANTIQUATED PERCEPTION. BUT I'LL READ THAT HEATHER SENT. DEAR COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND FELLOW ABILENIANS, I WRITE TODAY TO LEND MY SUPPORT TO THE EFFORTS TO OPEN AN UPSCALE TATTOO STUDIO IN THE DOWNTOWN ABILENE AREA. I LOVE THE VIBRANT CULTURE WE HAVE IN THE BIG COUNTRY, I'M PROUD TO HAVE GROWN UP HERE AND I'M THANKFUL TO BE ABLE TO RAISE MY CHILDREN IN ABILENE. WE IN THE CITY HAVE A WONDERFULLY UNIQUE BLEND OF HONORING OUR HERITAGE, AND SUPPORTING ARTS AND LITERACY AND ENGAGING IN TALENTS WHO BRING THEIR TALENT HOME. AS SOMEONE WHO GRADUATED AS A COOPER BAILEY KNOWS AND LIVES THE HISTORY AND PRIDE OF BEING PART OF THE LIFE OF TAYLOR COUNTY. SHE'S READY TO EXTRACT CLIENT TELL FROM THE BIG COUNTRY FOR A TATTOO EXPERIENCE THAT IS BECAUSE SHE UNDERSTAND THE VALUES OF HER FELLOW ABILENIANS. AS A MEMBER OF THE ARTS, THROUGH HER WORK AS BOOTH A TUTOR AND TATTOO ARTIST, BAILEY'S COMMITMENT TO THE ARTS IS EVIDENT IN HER EFFORTS. HER STUDIO MISSION TO PROVIDE AN ART'S OUTLET THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE WHOLE PERSON FITS WELL WITH THE ESTABLISHED INTERESTS OF OUR ARTS AND LITERACY COMMUNITY. SHE FITS SO WELL, IN FACT, SHE'S ALREADY GENERATING SIGNIFICANT INTEREST FROM LOCAL RESIDENTS, MYSELF INCLUDED. MOMS WHO WANT A SPECIAL TATTOO OF THEIR CHILD. PET OTHER THANES WHO WANT A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE TRIBUTE TO THEIR PASSED FUR BABY. THIS EXISTING INTEREST WILL ACCEPT SOLIDIFY HER ABILITY TO FILL HER STUDIO WITH RESIDENTS, READY AND EVEN EAGER FOR THE UPSCALE PRIVATE EXPERIENCE SHE'S READY TO PROVIDE LEADING TO TAX DOLLARS AND GENERAL INCOME TO HELP SUPPORT THE DOWNTOWN AND THE RENAISSANCE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ENJOYING. TO TRAM FIT IN THE ABILENE COMMUNITY TAKES A UNIQUE BLEND OF ROOT IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND THE DESIRE TO HELP GROW THE FUND OF KEY CITY.BAILEY'S MODEL HITS ALL THREE TARGETS AND I BELIEVE EXCEEDS THEM. I BELIEVE HER TATTOO STUDIO WILL BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO OUR DOWNTOWN CULTURE. THANK YOU FOR YOU'RE
TIME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> I COULD STAND UP HERE AND SPEAK ABOUT BAILEY --
>> MA'AM, CAN WE WE HAVE OUR NAME AND ADDRESS?
>> MY NAME IS RONATA BEASLEY AND I LIVE AT 4107 HAMPTON HILLS. I CAN SPEAK ABOUT BAILEY AS A YOUNGSTER AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE DID, DRAWING AND BEING CREATIVE. THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS, AS THEY COULD, AS A MOM, SHE'S MY DAUGHTER, EXPRESS TO YOU HOW SHE USED HER CREATIVE NATURE TO ARE NURTURE OTHER PEOPLE. BUT THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP HERE CAME AND SPOKE ABOUT THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT A TATTOO STUDIO WOULD BRING TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND AS I WAS LISTENING TO HIM, IT REALLY REMINDED ME OF AN EVENT THAT I WENT TO IN DOWNTOWN ABILENE A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO WHICH WAS PUT ON BY A GROUP OF VERY CARING MOMS TO BRING AWARENESS TO CHILD TRAFFICKING.
AND I GATHERED UP MY GRANDDAUGHTERS AND WE MADE POSTERS AND WE WERE READY TO WALK DOWNTOWN ABILENE FOR OUR CAUSE. AND INVOLVED IN THAT CAUSE WAS THE ABILENE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS GIVING SPEECHES, BUT, WE WERE PROTECTED ON OUR WALK BY A GROUP OF BIKERS AND I'LL BE HONEST, LOOKING BIKERS, COVERED WITH TATTOOS AND MY PERCEPTION OF THEM WAS WHAT ARE THEY DOING OUT HERE SUPPORTING PROTECTING OUR
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CHILDREN? IT WAS MY PERCEPTION, OKAY. THERE ARE LOVING, CARING PEOPLE ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE THAT EXPRESS THEMSELVES IN WAYS THAT EVEN MYSELF DON'T REALLY FULLY UNDERSTAND, BUT, I'VE LEARNED THROUGH MY DAUGHTER TO BE OPEN-MINDED AND TO BE INCLUSIVE TO PEOPLE. AND NOT LET MY PERCEPTION AFFECT THE VIEWS OF OTHER PEOPLE. AND, I USE THAT EXAMPLE OF THE CHILD TRAFFICKING TO SAY THAT WHEN I PULLED UP, I WAS KIND OF A LITTLE PULLED BACK A BIT, BECAUSE I WASN'T USED TO BEING AROUND PEOPLE THAT RIDE AROUND ON HARLEYS AND HAVE LEATHER VESTS WITH THEIR LADIES ON THE BACK OF THEIR BIKES. SO, I THINK ABILENE IS READY TO CHANGE THEIR PERCEPTION ON MANY DIFFERENT THINGS AND I THINK, ALLOWING THIS BUSINESS TO COME INTO YOUR COMMUNITY DOWNTOWN IS A WAY OF EXPRESSING ART AS A WAY OF EXPRESSING AN INDEPENDENT WOMAN OPENING UP A BUSINESS THAT HAS WORKED REALLY HARD IN THIS COMMUNITY AND I KNOW SHE'S MY DAUGHTER, I'M VERY PROUD OF HER. I WAS NOT A FAN AND HER FATHER'S STILL NOT QUITE ON BOARD, BUT, WE LOVE HER, RERESPECT HER, AND I THINK IF YOU RESPECT HER, AND I THINK IF YOUE RESPECT HER, AN I THINWE RESPECT HER, AND I THINK IF YOU ALLOW HER TO BUILD THIS BUSINESS, I BELIEVE YOU WILL SEE IT WILL BE A BENEFIT TO THE ABOUT THE AREA. THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME'S TIM SMITH AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN UP HERE ADVOCATED FOR A SMALL BUSINESS OR A FUTURE BUSINESS OWNER. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE BAILEY COME BACK TO HER HOMETOWN AND BE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AS ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, I WAS PROBABLY THE MOST UNRECEPTIVE INITIALLY. BUT, AFTER SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH BAILEY AND LOOKING AT HER BUSINESS MODEL AND WHAT SHE'S PLANNING TO DO, I'M ALL FOR HER AND WANT TO SUPPORT HER BUSINESS 100%. THERE'S BEEN A PRECEDENT SET FOR THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS, MAY BE A YEAR AND-A-HALF, TWO YEARS AGO, SOMEBODY APPLIED FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE WINDSOR HOTEL, AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, I BELIEVE. SO, I JUST WANT THE TO BRING THAT UP. YOU KNOW, PERCEPTIONS. FUNERAL HOMES HAVE PERCEPTIONS TOO, AND WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SETTING OUT TO DO AND BAILEY IS ONE SMALL PIECE OF THAT THAT WILL ULTIMATELY MAKE THAT A VERY INTERESTING, FUN, VIBRANT, DOWNTOWN SHOW PLACE THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE CREATED AN AREA WHERE THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF RESISTANCE, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT WHERE WE BUILT OUR HOME, WE HAD A LOT OF RESISTANCE, A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT FOR IT T I THINK IN GENERAL WE ALL HAVE AN UNFOUNDED FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN. AND SO WHEN NEIGHBORS OF A PROPERTY GET A LETTER IN THE MAIL THAT SAYS SOMEONE'S GOING TO DO THIS OR WANTS TO CHANGE THIS, THE INITIAL THOUGHT IS, OH, NO, I DON'T WANT THAT. I DO THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL THAT WAY. I THINK THAT'S OUR INITIAL RESPONSE IS NO, NO WAY! I DON'T HAVE ANY TATTOOS, I DON'T WANT ANY TATTOOS, BUT I APPRECIATE THEM. WE'RE IN THE CULTURAL DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, I GET IT.
THERE'S A CERTAIN PERCEPTION THAT'S CHANGING OF THE THE CULTURE HAS CHANGED. BUT, I THINK THAT THE CULTURAL DISTRICT SHOULD EMBRACE ALL FORMS OF ART, NOT JUST PAINTINGS ON THE WALL.
AND ONE THING THAT I STARTED DOING, I SAT NEXT TO SOMEONE ON AN AIRPLANE ONCE WHO WAS TATTED FROM HEAD TO TOE IT SEEMED LIKE.
I ASKED ABOUT HIS TATTOOS AND IT WAS A GREAT STORY ABOUT WHY HE DID IT AND THE MOMENT OF HIS LIFE. I WOULD SAY, LET'S GIVER
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A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER A SHOT AND NOT TELLER NO BEFORE SHEGETS HER FEET ON THE GROUND. >> HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE YOU
HOPING TO PUT IN THAT? >> WELL, THE NORTH END WILL BE CALLED PEACOCK PATIO, IT'S AN OUTDOOR SPORTS BAR. A VERY UNIQUE CONCEPT, AND THE REST OF THE BUILDING WILL BE OFFICES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> HI. I'M DR. DANIEL VAUGHN, A MEDICAL DOCTOR. I'M USED TO SEEING PEOPLE NAKED. MY SPECIALTY IS I'M A NEUROLOGIST, I'M A BRAIN SPECIALIST, PERCEPTIONS ARE REALLY AND PERCEPTIONS ARE MOVING. WHY DO YOU THINK COMPANIES SPEND MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS TO HAVE JUST THE PRIETH ANGLE PERCEPTIONS MOVE THE BRAIN. I'M A BRAIN SPECIALIST. SO, I KNOW THIS. MY SUBSPECIALTY, HOWEVER, IS CLINICAL NEURO ELECHE TROW PHYSIOLOGY. I STICK NEEDLES IN PEOPLE ALL DAY LONG. I DO NERVE STUDIES, PEOPLE STOP ME AT MARKET STREET AND SAY, HEY, YOU STUCK NEEDLES IN ME. THEY REMEMBER WHEN I SEE THEM. MY WIFE WAS THE NOMINEE FOR THE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA'S BALL. WHO IS A NEUROLOGIST ALSO. WE'RE WELL RECOGNIZED PATRONS OF THE ARTS. SOME OF US DO PREFER MORE CONVENTIONAL ART. AND THERE IS A PERCEIVED HIERARCHY OF HEART, OKAY. SO, WE'RE RECOGNIZED AS PATRONS OF THE ARTS IN ABILENE AND HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED AS SO. I HAVE THE MEDICAL PRACTICE DIRECTLY NORTH AT 602 HICKORY STREET. AND BY THE WAY, CONGRATULATIONS ON STARTING YOUR NEW BUSINESS, GOD BLESS YOU, GOD BLESS YOU FOR BEING A TATTOO ARTIST, BUT IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO WHERE THERE WAS ROUTINELY DEPOSITS OF FECES AT OUR OFFICE WHEN THERE WAS THE GREY HOUND BUS STATION, AND THAT'S A WONDERFUL COMPANY, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT PERCEPTIONS. THESE PATIENTS HAVE DIFFICULTY MOVING AND IF I COULD JUST SAY ONE POINT, YOUR FIRST PERCEPTION WAS THAT THE TATTOO STUDIO WASN'T A
GOOD IDEA. THAT'S EVERYBODY'S. >> NO.
(INDISCERNIBLE) >> THE PERCEPTION IS IN MY ELDERLY, MOTORICALLY IMPAIRED PATIENTS THAT I'VE CARED FOR FOR 26 YEARS IN A VERY UNDER SERVICED AREA THAT THEY DO HAVE A NEGATIVE PERCEPTION. I REMEMBER WHEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOT AT THE LEVEL THAT IT IS NOW AND IT'S SO MUCH NICER FORMY PATIENTS TO COME IN. WE STILL HAVE THE OCCASION PERSON SLEEPING IN THE FRONT AREA WHEN WE FIRST OPEN THE OFFICE, I WORRY ABOUT MY PATIENTS, I'M SPEAKING ALSO FOR THE ORTHODONTIST PRACTICE NEXT DOOR. THE MANAGER IS ON THE WAY HERE, THAT THE ORTHODONTIST PRACTICE IS ALSO VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THIS. I'M SO HAPPY FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT THEY'RE OPENING A BAR, I'M SO HAPPY THAT THEY'RE RENTING OFFICE SPACE, SOME OF WHICH TO PEOPLE THAT I KNOW. AND I DO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS TO BE DONNA CAREFULLY CALCULATED WAY. I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
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>> HI, THERE, VICTORIA CARTER, I HAVE A LAW OFFICE AT 618 HICKORY STREET, WHICH IS JUST NEXT DOOR TO THE NEUROLOGY AND THE DENTIST OFFICE. I OPPOSED THE EXCEPTION BEING MADE TO THE TATTOO ARTIST BEING IN THERE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF SHE WANTED TO OPEN OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA, I'M AT 618 HICKORY STREET BETWEEN THE DENTAL OFFICE AND THE NEUROLOGIST OFFICE AND THE HICKORY STREET CAFE. ON THAT SIDE, TWO STORE BUILDING AND BEEN THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. I TAKE CARE OF ADOPTIONS, SENIOR CITIZENS, ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE AND ALL WALKS OF LIFE. I WOULD REALLY PREFER THEM NOT WALKING IN TO A GROUP OF MOTORCYCLISTS GETTING TATTOOS. I'LL BE UP THERE UNTIL MIDNIGHT TONIGHT, AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HOURS THIS TATTOO STUDIO WILL BE STAYING OPEN, BUT I'M THINKING IF IT'S CONNECTED TO A BAR, I'M THINKING THEY WOULD BE WANTING TO BE OPEN IN THE EVENING HOURS.
I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO IT FOR THAT REASON. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH HER OPENING A SHOP. THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLACES THROUGHOUT ABILENE IT COULD BE OPENED. WHY IT HAS TO BE OPENED THERE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE HAVE THE NEW HOTEL AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY WANTS TO LOOK AT IS PUTTING IN THIS BRAND NEW HOTEL AND HAVE THIS THIS TIME OF QUOTE UNQUOTE ART, AND THE PEOPLE IS THAT IT COULD ATTRACT, IT COULD BE GOOD PEOPLE AND NOT-SO-GOOD PEOPLE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT AND THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH THE TATTOO PARLOR AND I AGREE WITH BOTH OF THE THINGS THAT THE DOCTORS SAID AND THE ORTHODONTIST SHOP, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE IT'S LIKE, HEY, IT'S GREAT, THAT THE FACILITY IS THERE WE DO NOT WANT IT TO SUBSTRICT OR HARM OUR PATIENTS OR CLIENTS AND WE DON'T WANT IT TO SUBTRACT FROM OUR PROPERTY VALUES. I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO RUN IN AND OUT BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE TRY TO GO ADDRESS. I'M NOT BIGOTED OR FUSSING ABOUT THAT. THERE ARE SIMILAR THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE COURTROOM, WHEN I HAVE A CLIENT THAT I SEE THAT HAVE TATTOOS, I KNOW THAT THE JUDGES ARE MY AGE GROUP AND WE WERE RAISED A CERTAIN WAY.
IT'S A PERCEPTION. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LOVE TATTOOS, AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SUBTRACT FROM MY CLIENT WINNING A CASE BECAUSE OF THE PERCEPTION OF THE TATTOOS IN THE JUDGE'S MIND. I DON'T WANT IT TO AFFECT PROPERTY VALUES OR MY CLIENTS WHICH ARE THE CITIZENS OF ABILENE. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE HER TO FIND A SHOP OUTSIDE OF THE CITY DOWNTOWN AREA. WE HAVE MORE OF A COMMUNITY THAN JUST THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THE COMMUNITY CAN GO SOUTH, NORTH, EAST, WEST, WE HAVE A LOT OF AREA FOR TO TO FIND A SPOT.
>> I LIVE AT 234 COTTON CANDY ROAD. THE WIFE AND I JUST RELOCATED TO TEXAS FROM COLORADO. AND I'M LISTENING TO ALL OF THESE THINGS ABOUT PERCEPTION, I JUST MOVED FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE WE CAME HERE AND I KNOW IT HAPPENS IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES. YOU KNOW, WHEN I MOVE INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE HAVE A CERTAIN PERCEPTION TOO, AND, BUT, BY US WALKING IN CARRYING PRINCIPLES, THAT SEEMS TO ALWAYS CHANGE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE MOVED FROM, UM, WE HAD THAT DIFFERENT PERCEPTION, WHEN WE MOVED INTO IT. BY THE TIME WE LEFT, IT
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CHANGED. BECAUSE WE PERSONALLY LOOKED FOR BUSINESSES. BUT WE DEALT WITH THAT WHEN WE FIRST GOT THERE, JUST THE PERCEPTIONS ABOUT US, THINKING THAT THE PROPERTY VALUE WOULD GO DOWN, I HEARD ALL THE SAME THINGS, THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER ABOUT IT.AND THEN WE HAD A MOTORCYCLE CLUB THEATER MOVE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I I FOUND OUT THEY WERE ALL VETERANS AND THEY RAISED SO MUCH MONEY FOR THE CHILDREN. BEING A MARINE VETERAN THEY DID A LOT OF WORK FOR TOYS FOR TOTS, BUT NOBODY NEW, BECAUSE OF THEIR PERCEPTION, NOBODY KNEW THAT UNTIL I WENT DOWN THERE AND OPENED MYSELF UP TO REALLY JUST RECEIVE AND ACCEPT THEM AS HUMAN BEINGS. AND NOT WHITE HOUSE OF THE BIKERS OR THE TATTOOS, AND THEY WERE SOME BIG BURLEY GUYS AND SOMETIMES THEY HAD, ACTUALLY I FOUND OUT THE MEETING THAT I WENT TO ON A SUNDAY WAS REALLY A CHURCH SERVICE. HE SAID, BECAUSE OF THE PERCEPTION THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE FOR THEM TO GO. SO, THEY HAD A CHURCH SERVICE THERE. SO, I THINK, SHE DID A GREAT JOB PRESENTING HER BUSINESS PLAN RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF HER HEAD AND THE BUSINESS MODEL AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT, TO ME, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I JUST SEE THE PROBLEM WITH THESE PERCEPTIONS. AND IF SHE'S BRINGING IN REVENUE FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND STATES, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO ABILENE AND I THINK THAT WILL OVERCOME THE PERCEPTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. LIKE THE SAME THING THAT WE DID WHEN MY WIFE AND I MOVED, THE DISCUSSION WITH THE INSPECTORS WAS LIKE, WE GOT TO FIND SOMETHING, THERE WAS NO FECES IN THE YARD OR TORE DOWN FENCES, THE HOUSE WAS PAINTED.
I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING WRONG. BUT THE PERCEPTION WAS IT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTY VALUES WERE GOING TO GO DOWN BECAUSE WE MOVED IN. SO, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET OVER THAT HERE IN ABILENE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO CALL IT PREJUDICE, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS. AND, YOU GOT TO OPEN OURSELVES UP TO A HIGHER LEVEL. AND, I THINK, REALLY IN OUR HEARTS. AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING I CAN SEE THAT'S WRONG WITH IT, ANYWAY, EVEN THE OWNER BROUGHT UP PROPERTY, HE WAS JUST AMAZED AND ASKED MY WIFE HOW DOES SHE KEEP THIS OR THAT SO GOOD AND HOW DO WE KEEP THE GRASS GROWING AND THE ROCKS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WE JUST, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT CHARACTER AND PRINCIPLES AND SHE SEEMED TO BE OPERATING IN THE SAME WAY WITH A DIFFERENT CHARACTER AND DIFFERENT PRINCIPLES. IT WILL
BE A BLESSING TO ABILENE. >> SIR, CAN I ASK YOU WHAT LED YOU TO BE HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON THIS?
>> OH, I REALLY CAME FOR THE LAST ZONING. OUR PROPERTY IS RIGHT BACK UP AGAINST THIS ZONING, NUMBER 11 ON THE LIST, AND WE HAVE AN EASEMENT IN THE BACK. I'LL BE BACK UP HERE
>> AND I'M FROM OKLAHOMA. >> O.
>> I'M COLE MARCY AND I'M ALSO ONE OF THE OWNERS OF MARBLE ORCHARD, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT PERCEPTION. YEARS AGO, IF YOU WOULD HAVE SAID OH, THERE'S A BAR GOING IN THERE, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A CERTAIN PERCEPTION ABOUT THAT, TOO, RIGHT, BUT HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BAR GOING IN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY AND NOBODY SEEMS TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. IN MY PERCEPTION, THIS OLD BUILDING THAT WE'RE SUBPOENAING OVER $1 MILLION RENOVATING, THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES GOING DOWN, I DON'T THINK THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING IN OVER $1000000 ACROSS THE STREET THAT'S GOING TO MAKE PROPERTY VALUES GO UP PLUS THE NEW HOTEL.
SO, PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING NOWHERE BUT UP. SO, TO SIT HERE
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AND SAY A LITTLE TATTOO STUDIO AN UPSCALE TATTOO PARLOR TO SAY THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A PERCEPTION THAT'S GOING TO BRING DOWN PROPERTY VALUES DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT USE, RIGHT? THIS ENTIRE THING IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT USE. IT ALREADY GOT APPROVED A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO OR A YEAR AND-A-HALF AGO. FOR US TO BE MOVING IT DOWN THE STREET AND BRINGING LIFE TO SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN SITTING VACANT. AND IN THIS VACANT BUILDING, THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT BIKERS AND PEOPLE, BUT BEFORE WE GOT IT, THIS WAS A PLACE WHERE HOMELESS PEOPLE STAYED. THEY USED OR BUSHES AS THEIR CLOSETS AND WHERE THEY STORED THEIR FOOD, WHERE THEY SLEPT, SINCE WE'VE HAD THE FREEZES WE'VE HAD THEM ON OUR BACK STEPS SETTING FIRE TOSS TRY AND STAY WARM.SO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING SCARED WORKING UNTIL MIDNIGHT AND THAT KIND OF THING, WE'RE BRINGING THIS PLACE BACK TO LIFE SO THERE'S A PUBLIC AROUND AND IT'S NOT RANDOM PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THEY ARE, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE SPENDING MONEY IN THAT LOCATION THAT MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN THESE OTHER PLACES WERE EVEN THERE WHITE HOUSE WE'RE BRINGING A HUB TO THAT PART OF DOWNTOWN. AND, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT AT ALL. I DO HAVE TATTOOS AND THEY ALL HAVE A MEANING. AND SO, I THINK THAT PERCEPTION IS EXTREMELY OUTDATED. THANK YOU
>> I'M BEN WILLIAMS AND I LIVE AT 6309 HUNTINGTON PLACE. AND I'M SERVING AS THE BASE COMMUNITY PLANNER OUT OF THE AIR FORCE BASE WHICH IS THE REASON THAT I WOULD EVEN BE HERE. I WASN'T AWARE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL BEFORE COMING. I'M A PROPONENT AND I WOULD ADVOCATE TO ALLOW THE CHANGE. CERTAINLY, DOWNTOWN IS BECOMING AND WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE AND BRING IN MORE OF THESE THINGS THAT WILL ADD TO THE VIBRANT, SAFE WELCOMING AND DIVERSE NATURE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THIS IS A TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT WOULD DO THAT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE FOLKS OUT AT THE BASE, THIS IS A WELCOMING TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT AND A BUSINESS THAT THEY WOULD REALLY ENJOY HAVING ACCESS TO AMONGST ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO DOWNTOWN. ESPECIALLY, WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES THAT YOU COULD EAT, JUST GOING DOWN AND DOING THINGS FOR FREE AND FOR FUN AND SPENDING TIME. I MEAN, THE FINAL THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THE KIND OF REVENUE THAT COMES IN FROM FINE ARTWORK LIKE THIS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH KAT VON SPOTTY DEE OR OTHER VERY WORLD FAMOUS ARTISTS, THIS IS A REVENUE GENERATOR AND I COULD ABSOLUTELY ENVISION THE THINGS MENTIONED WITH FOLKS COMING TO ABILENE THAT WOULD NORMALLY NOT KNOW WHAT ABILENE WAS OR WHERE IT IS OR EVER HEARD OF IT UNLESS IT WAS FROM A SONG AND THEY DIDN'T THINK IT REALLY EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT WOULD BE TRAVELING TO STAY IN OUR NEW MOTELDOWN AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN APPOINTMENT AT AN ESTABLISHMENT LIKE THIS. THAT'S IT, THANKS.
>> ANYONE ELSE? >> SEEING NO ONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONG OURSELVES AND YOU WILL GET TO HEAR THAT. I WILL SAY THAT IF WE AGREE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING FROM HERE, THIS GOES TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL HAS TWO ROUNDS OF IT.
SO, THEY WILL HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND READING AND YOU'LL GET A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE COUNCIL AT THE SECOND READING. OKAY. SO, JUST BECAUSE WHAT WE SAY HERE, WE SAY OKAY WE'RE SENDING IT ONTO COUNCIL, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A DONE DEAL BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL AND THEY WILL HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING LIKE THIS AND CITY COUNCIL GETS TO DECIDE ON THE ZONING CASE.
SO, I'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. YOU KNOW, GUYS THINGS ALWAYS SURPRISE ME BECAUSE I'M GOING TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU AND ADAM BECAUSE I DIDN'T STUDY THIS CASE REALLY HARD BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS SLAM DUNK AND NOW THAT I'VE HEARD A LOT OF INPUT,
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I COULD CERTAINLY SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY. AND, I DID SEEM TO RECALL WHAT MR. SMITH BROUGHT UP THAT WE APPROVED A CASE TO THIS, I COULDN'T RECALL WHAT IT WAS, HE REMINDED ME IT WAS AT THE WINTER, ADAM, DID YOU HAPPEN TO FIND THAT OR WAS THAT IN OURPACKET AND I OVERLOOKED IT? >> I DID MEAN TO HAVE IT IN THE PACKET, I THOUGHT I PLACED IT THERE, BUT I DIDN'T END UP DOING IT AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN MISPLACED. I BELIEVE IT WAS AN ORDINANCE FROM 2019, I THINK IT WAS 57:
>> OKAY. SO THERE'S A PRECEDENT THERE. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT AND I DO RECALL THAT AFTER WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.
I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING IN AND OFFERING INPUT AND THAT'S GREAT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT, AND SO, DO WE
HAVE ANY DISCUSSION UP HERE? >> HOW'S EVERYBODY'S PULSE OF? ONE THING IS THERE'S ONLY FOUR OF US, OKAY. SO, WE KIND OF GOT TO TALK ABOUT IT AMONG OURSELVES.
>> I'LL TELL YOU I'M IN FAVOR OF SENDING IT TO COUNCIL. I THINK, FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, IT'S ABOUT USE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE INITIALLY DECIDING. I ALSO THINK THAT WE DO LOOK AT BUSINESS OWNERS AND CONSIDER WHAT BUSINESS OWNERS AND WHILE I'M RESPECTFUL OF THE OTHER AREAS OF BUSINESSES AND THEY ARE CONCERNS, I'M ALSO RESPECTFUL OF TIME AND HIS GROUPS BUSINESS I FEEL THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO BRING IN SOMEBODY IF THEY ARE A BUSINESS OWNER IN THAT AREA AS WELL, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY WOULD PUT SOMETHING IN THERE IF IT WOULD BE A DETRIMENT FOR THEM TO ATTRACT OTHER RENTERS. FOR THOSE, TWO, WE'RE HOPEFULLY GROWING TO A MORE SPRAWLING DOWNTOWN WHERE IT'S NOT LIMITED BY THE BORDERS AND THAT STARTS AN INCH AT A TIME. AND SO, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF
SENDING IT TO COUNCIL. >> I'M GOING DOUBLE CHECK WITH
KELLY. >> IF YOU ARE ABSTAINING, I WOULD ADVISE YOU NOT TO ENTER INTO DISCUSSION. NO PARTICIPATION IF YOU ARE ABSTAINING.
>> WELL, I CERTAINLY GOT A GOOD DOSE OF PERCEPTION TODAY. I THINK THIS WAS A I THOUGHT IT WAS A SLAM-DUNK TOO, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE -- BUT, I DO APPRECIATE BOTH SIDES IF IT MAKES IT HELPS US TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE, I THINK WHEN WE HEAR BOTH SIDES TO SEE HOW YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT IT ON BOTH ENDS. BUT, JUST LIKE HE WAS SAYING, UM, PLANNING AND
ZONING STICKING TO OUR MISSION. >> WELL, WE DID CHANGE THIS IN 2019 WHERE THE TATTOO PARLORS ARE ALLOWED IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND I TOO APPRECIATED ALL THE COMMENTS FROM EVERYONE TODAY. BECAUSE IT DID ALLOW US TO LISTEN TO EACH SIDE AND HEAR WHAT THE PERCEPTIONS ARE FROM EVERYBODY WHO IS IN THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTED HERE TODAY. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PERCEPTIONS THAT ANYONE PERSON CAN TAKE OR ANYONE GROUP OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THIS NEW HOTEL AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO GENERATE AND WHAT PERCEPTION WE WANT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO STAY THERE. YOU COULD LOOK AT IT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, IS A TATTOO PARLOR WHAT YOU WANT REPRESENTING AND VISIBLE FROM THE HOTEL, IS IT A FUNERAL HOME, IS IT ELDERLY WALKING IN AND OUT OF A BUSINESS ALL DAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCEPTION THAT IT IS THAT WE WANT FOR ABILENE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THIS PARTICULAR USE IN THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO REPRESENT ABILENE IN A NEGATIVE WAY AND I THINK THE USE IS ALLOWABLE AND I THINK FOR THIS BUSINESS AND WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. I JUST DIDN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE PERCEPTION OF THE TATTOO STUDIO, SO, I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS PROBABLY A GOOD USE OF I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
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>> I'LL MOTION TO APPROVAL. >> ASECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVAL.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE CARRIES. >> THAT MOVES INTO COUNCIL AND LIKE I SAID, IT WILL BE, WHAT, A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS OUT.
WE'LL GIVE THEM THE AGENDA AND THERE'LL BE A FIRST AND SECOND READING AND WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND YOU'LL GET TO DO THAT AGAIN IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU.
>> EXCUSE ME, THAT TOOK LONGER THAN I EXPECTED, AND I HAVE
SCHOOL PICK UP. I'LL SEE Y'ALL. >> AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOMED TO HANG AROUND FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF CASES OR YOU COULD LEAVE IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
>> WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR COMING IN AND YOUR INPUT. >>> ZONING CASE 82207, REQUEST TO AMEND A ZONING FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ADD SELF-STORAGE AS PERMITTED USE ON LOTS 111 AND 112 OF BLOCK A, WIND MILL ACRES IN TAYLOR COUNTY.
>> ADAM, >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M ADAM HOLLAND, AND I'M PRESENTING Z 2022. THIS IS TO AMEND THE PD DISTRICT 157 TO ALLOW SELF-STORAGE BUILDINGS WITHIN THIS PARTICULARLY PD. UM, SO, HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP SHOWING THE EFFECTED PARCELS. THESE ARE LOTS 11 AND 15. THE ADDRESS, 1115 AND RENAL 115 WINDMIL CIRCLE, HERE'S THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THE NEIGHBORING ZONING AREAS TO THE NORTH WE HAVE A PD ALSO BEING USED CURRENTLY AS A SELF STORAGE FACILITY. AND THEN WE HAVE. THESE ARE VACANT LOTS CURRENTLY BEING UNUSED, CURRENTLY THE PD IS MEDICAL USE, PERMITTED MEDICAL USES EXCLUDING ANY RESIDENTIAL USES. THIS WOULD BE ALLOWED AS A MEDICAL USE, CURRENTLY, BUT THERE'S ONE IN OPPOSITION TO HAVE 15.6% OPPOSITION, AND THAT'S THE PARCEL TO THE WEST OF THIS. AND FOUND CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT WAS REVIEWED PURSUANT TO SECTION 1414 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO ALTER THE LANGUAGE OF THE PD 156 TO INCLUDE STORAGE SELF SERVICE UNITS AS A PERMITTED USE. DOES STORAGE SELF SERVICE UNITS HAVE A SPECIFIC MEANING? OR DEFINITION?
>> YES. IT HAS STUFF ALONG THAT LIKES WHERE IT'S NOT AW A WAREHOUSE, IT'S A SELF STORAGE FACILITY.
>> HERE'S MY QUESTION, SELF-STORAGE UNITS TO ME ARE A METAL BUILDING WITH ROWS INSIDE TO STORE STUFF IN THERE. THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE, SELF-STORAGE UNITS DON'T INCLUDE RV STORAGE AND OUTDOOR BOAT STORAGE, IT'S JUST A SELF-STORAGE BUILDING? ?
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I WOULD NEED TO READ THE DEFINITION AGAIN TO CLARIFY.WAS MEDICAL USE A BASE ZONING IN THE PD?
>> YES, MEDICAL USE EXCLUDING RESIDENTIAL USES.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ADAM?
>> THANKS ADAM. >> THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THIS WAS BEING REQUESTED, DID THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND REQUEST THE CHANGE OR WAS THE MEDICAL USE ON
THAT BLOCK TOWARDS THE HOSPITAL? >> THIS WAS A SEPARATE PD FROM
THAT ONE. >> FROM THE ONE THAT'S ON THE
>> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. THANKS ADAM.
OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, TAL, FILLING IN AS THE AGENT FOR THE DEVELOPER. THIS PD AMENDMENT IS TO SUPPORT THAT SOCIALITY OF THAT SELF-STORAGE FACILITY DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH ACROSS THE STREET. PHASE ONE IS CONSTRUCTED AND IS IN OPERATION AND HAS BEEN FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. PHASE TWO IS ABOUT TO START CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS KIND OF THE BACK SIDE OF THAT SAME LOT AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO A THIRD PHASE ON THE LOTS ACROSS THE STREET. CERTAINLY, IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS FACILITY, YOU WOULD PROBABLY AGREE WITH ME, IF IT'S NOT THE NICEST, IT'S CERTAINLY ONE OF THE NICEST IN TOWN, THAT'S THEIR BRAND AND WHAT THEY WANT TO USE THE SPACE FOR. SO, YOU KNOW, WE DEAL A LOT WITH PD AMENDMENTS AND THERE'S ALWAYS AN IDEA OF THESE PDS, WHEN THEY START OUT, WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL FACILITY RIGHT TO THE NORTH OF WHAT USED TO BE REGIONAL. THAT WAS THE IDEA, CERTAINLY AROUND WINDMILL CIRCLE, THAT'S NOT THE CASE AND THE TYPES OF USES THAT YOU'VE SEEN AND THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF PD AMENDMENTS WITHIN THIS AREA WHERE THE SPARE FEET DEVELOPMENT IS ACROSS THE STREET TO THE NORTH. WE HAD TO REZONE THAT PROPERTY, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS A MODIFICATION TO THE PD OR A REZONING SPECIFIC TO THAT PROPERTY, BUT WE DID HAVE TO PURSUE THAT. IN MY OPINION, AND, I THINK FROM A PLANNING PER PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THIS LAND, WE
WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> TAL, SINCE YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE PD, DOES IT HAVE ANYTHING UNUSUAL BASED ON
THAT, DO YOU REMEMBER? >> I DON'T, I'M SORRY, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THAT, I DON'T KNOW OFF HAND.
>> THANKS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
>> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME VISIT WITH US ABOUT THIS?
>> I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> WAIT. >> IF YOU'LL LET ME. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I'VE GIVEN THOUGHT TO THIS ITEM AS I REVIEWED IT LAST WEEK. I BELIEVE THAT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT BE LIMITED TO JUST THESE TWO LOTS NOT THE ENTIRE PD BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE WE NOTICED ALL OF THE PD AREA.
>> I WAS LOOKING AT THAT MAP AND I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THAT TO ADAM. IS THIS PD ATTACHED TO THE PD TO THE NORTH?
>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I BELIEVE THAT THE PD INCLUDES
EVERYTHING WITHIN THE CIRCLE. >> WELL, THAT'S A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL, AND GENERAL COMMERCIALS AND GENERAL RETAIL RIGHT THERE IN THAT MAP. I BELIEVE THAT THE PD IS LIMITED
TO JUST THOSE TWO LOTS. >> I THOUGHT LIKE YOU THOUGHT THAT THE WHOLE INSIDE OF THE CIRCLE WAS A PD AND THAT'S NOT
WHAT THAT MAP SAID, SO. >> AND THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE, I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE HAVEN'T OVERSTEPPED OUR
BOUNDARIES. >> I APPRECIATE THE
CLARIFICATION. >> ADAM, DID THE PERSON THAT OBJECTED, DID THEY GIVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING? NO, SIR,
THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING. >> I'LL HOPE THE PUBLIC
HEARING. >> I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU CLOSED IT. I FORGOT TO MENTION ONE THING, WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH JARED AND I KNOW JARED'S NOT HERE ANYMORE, BUT SELF-STORAGE
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USE INCLUDED RV AND BOAT STORAGE, YOU ASKED THAT EARLIER, THE DETERMINATION AT THE TIME THAT WE SUBMITTED THE REQUEST FOR THE PD AMENDMENT WAS THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED. IF THAT'S NOT INCLUDED AND A DETERMINATION IS MADE THAT IT'S NOT, WE WANT TO ADD THAT. AGAIN BEING CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO DO HERE. I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT BEING INCLUDED IN THE DEFINITION OF A SELF-STORAGE UNIT HAS A CONKNOW FACIAL OF THE PERCEPTION THAT IT'S ANENCLOSED, BROKE UP. >> THAT'S WHY WE ASKED THE QUESTION ON THE FRONT END WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE REQUEST. WE WOULD HAVE REQUESTED A WHOLE DIFFERENT ZONING BUT WE DON'T HAVE INTENTION OF CHANGING ANYTHING OTHER THAN THESE TWO LOTS BUT WE COULD HAVE REQUESTED GENERAL COMMERCIAL OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, IT'S ALL APPLICABLE IN THIS AREA IN MY OPINION, BASED ON THE WAY IT'S CONTINUED TO DEVELOP. BUT THE MOST SIMPLE THING TO DO IS ADD THE USE FOR THE PD. AND THE FEES TO THE PD
ARE CHEAPER AS WELL. >> THANKS.
>> CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> FOR MR. WHITE, I JUST HAD A QUESTION, WAS THE WHOLE PD NOTIFIED, OR WAS IT JUST THE
TWO? >> SO, WHAT MR. RICE WAS SAYING AND WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THAT THE WHOLE INSIDE THE WINDMILL CIRCLE, WAS PD, BUT THE SEASONING MAP THAT ADAM ATTACHED TO THE PACKAGE SHOWED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THE GRAY AND THE RETAIL WAS THE PINK. THE WHOLE THING WASN'T ONE BIG PD AND SO, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT 11-15. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE HERE, BUT WE GOT INTO THE DISCUSSION OFF OF ANTLY ROAD.
THAT PROPERTY THERE WAS ONE BIG PD THAT HAD A LOT OF PROPERTY IN IT AND SO WE HAD TO TALK TO EACH INDIVIDUAL IN THE PROPERTY TO
>> BUT THIS PD LOOK LIKE THESE TWO LOTS ARE OWNED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL AND IT'S IN ONE PD AND I BELIEVE THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE. OKAY.
>> I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WOULD FROM MY OWN PERSONAL UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD INCLUDE RV AND BOAT STORAGE.
HOWEVER, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR YOU ALL TO ADD LANGUAGE TO SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE RV AND BOAT STORAGE SO AS NOT TO HAVE CONFUSION.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR A MOTION? OR QUESTIONS?
>> I MOVE TO APPROVE IT. I THINK THAT TAL'S RIGHT, THAT WHOLE CIRCLE IS BUILT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY THOUGHT 30 YEARS AGO, THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ALL DOCTOR'S OFFICES. I'LL
MOTION TO APPROVE. >> BEFORE WE VOTE HERE, I WANT TO BE SURE THAT SINCE YOU MADE THE MOTION AND YOU SECONDED THAT WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT INCLUDES RV AND BOAT STORAGE,
SO... >> I THINK I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
>> SO, MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, WHICH DOES INCLUDE RV AND BOAT STOR
STORAGE. >> CAN I CLARIFY, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A QUESTION AND NOT PART OF THE MOTION. I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR THE DEFINITION AND NOW IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO SEARCH. BECAUSE, I THINK IT WOULD BE INDOORS AND I DON'T THINK IT'S NEEDED. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT STATING SOMETHING ADDITIONAL THAT WASN'T NOTICED IF IT'S AN ADDITIONAL USE. THAT'S WHY, I THOUGHT IT WAS AN ANSWER TO A QUESTION.
>> OKAY. WE'RE GOING WITH THE DEFINITION OF SELF STORAGE
>> MY MOTION WOULD MOVE IT ALONG AS NOTICED UNLESS WE WANTED TO OPEN UP BECAUSE CAL WANTS TO TAKE IT BACK AND MAKE
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SURE THAT IT'S NOTICED BROADLY. >> I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S NEEDED, IT'S ALLOWED IN THE SUBSTORAGE AS-IS.
>> GREAT. >> OKAY. WE'RE GOOD TO GO.
>> SELF STORAGE UNITS AS NOTED. >> MR. BARN ELATA?
>> YES. >> AND THE MOTION CARRIES.
>> ZONING CASE Z-2022-08, RECEIVE A REPORT AND HOLD A DISCUSSION ON THE PUBLIC HEARING ON A REQUEST FROM THE COLLECTIVE OWNER OF THE SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS MILL RIDGE ESTATES SUBDIVISION TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM 27 HADN'T 859 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT TO RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PATIO HOME DISTRICT ON HA ARDISON LANE.
>> GOOD EVENING, I'M ADAM HOLLAND AND I'M RECOMMENDING THE ZONING FOR 2022-08. HERE IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THE CURRENT ZONING OF PROPERTIES NEARBY AND, ADJACENT, AND THE ZONING SHOWN IN WHITE IS CURRENTLY COUNTY PROPERTY SO, IT DOES NOT HAVE A ZONING TO THE NORTH IT'S AGRICULTURUAL OPEN AND RESIDENTIAL RULE ONE AND TO THE WEST IS A PD MAINLY ALLOWING FOR SELF-STORAGE AND TO THE EAST IS AGRICULTURAL OPEN AND TO THE SOUTH IS RESIDENTIAL. HERE ARE THE PERMITTED USES IN PATIO HOME ZONING AND HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS SHOWN AND NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND TO THE NORTHEAST.
THIS IS CURRENTLY VACANT LAND WHICH IS ON HARDISON. WE SENT OUT NOTIFICATIONS ON A 200 FOOT BUFFER AND RECEIVED ONE OPPOSITION FROM A PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN THE COUNTY AREA. AND, I'VE MARKED THAT WITHIN THIS MAP. IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT MAP STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> DOES THE PATIO HOME ZONING HAVE ANY DIFFERENT BUFFER REQUIREMENTS? RS 6 DOESN'T HAVE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS, DOES THE
PATIO HOME HAVE ANY OF THAT? >> NO, IT DOES NOT.
>> OKAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR ADAM.
>> THANKS ADAM. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO COME AND ADDRESS THE ZONING CASE?
>> FRED JOHNSON, 234 COTTON CANDY ROAD, WE'RE IN AN ADDITION JUST SOUTH OF IT. WE HAVE AN EASEMENT, LIKE A 10-FOOT EASEME EASEMENT UP AGAINST THAT PROPERTY AND MY QUESTION IS HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE DEALT WITH, BECAUSE OUR FENCE, THE EASEMENT IS INSIDE OF OUR FENCE. SO...
>> I GUESS YOUR PROPERTY LINE IS THE PROPERTY LINE RUNNING EAST AND WEST THERE IN THE PICTURE, CORRECT? ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE HOUSE THERE IS? DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE IT YOUR'S.
>> THIS ONE TO THE LEFT. >> THE MAIN FENCE IS LIKE, 10
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FEET OF IT IS OUR YARD NOW. >> YEAH, THE UTILITY EASEMENT.
>> AND THAT'S COMMON FOR ALL LOTS.
>> SO, IS THAT FENCE GOING TO BE MOVED IN?
>> NO, THERE'S PROBABLY A UTILITY EASEMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE ALSO, RIGHT, ADAM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD
PULL THAT PLAT BACK UP. >> I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE OUT OF SYNCH ON THAT, WE APPROVED THE PLAT BEFORE LOOKING AT THE
ZONING. >> THEY HAVE THE SAME THING, MR. JOHNSON, ON THEIR SIDE ALSO. THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS RIGHT HERE IS AN EASEMENT ON THEIR SIDE OF THE FENCE. SO, THERE'S, THE FENCE WILL DECIDE THE 20-FOOT EASEMENT.
>> THAT WOULD BE LIKE AN ALLEY OR JUST LIKE...
>> IT'S JUST FOR UTILITIES? >>
>> ANY IDEA IF THIS IS APPROVED COM THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD
START? >> WELL, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO START QUICKLY BECAUSE THE PLAT'S ALREADY APPROVED FOR IT. SO, I DON'T KNOW, WE COULD FIND OUT FROM BJ IN JUST A SECOND, I THINK, WHERE THE DESIGN IS AT, BUT. OKAY
>>> OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> THANK YOU. >> AND I'M FROM OKLAHOMA.
>> NO PRECONCEIVED IDEAS THERE. >> YOU COULD STAY, I GUESS.
>> I HAVE PRECONCEIVED ABOUT BJ WEARING HIS TEXAS TECH SHIRT UP
>> BJ PRITCHARD, BHT ENGINEERING, WE'RE AGENTS FOR THE APPLICANT ON THIS. TO YOUR POINT IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER, AND THE REASONING DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE LOT SIZE, NECESSARILY, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS NOT PATIO HOME SIZED LOTS THERE, THEY'RE TYPICAL LOTS. REALLY, THE PATIO HOME DESIGNATION IS TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY ON SITE TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE LOT USABILITY. THEY'RE RESTRICTED WITH THE GASLI LINES ON THE NOR SIDE AND SO WE'RE TRY TO GO MAKE THE BEST USE OF THE LAND AND WHAT'S THERE. AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THEY'RE, I BELIEVE AT THE CITY RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE IN PUBLIC WORKS BEING REVIEWED AND WE HAVE ADDRESSED ALL OF THE COMMENTS. SO, IT'S GETTING FAIRLY CLOSE TO GETTING STARTED, I BELIEVE THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TAKING BIDS.
>> AND SO, IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO?
>> PROBABLY SO. YEAH. >> OKAY.
>> I THINK YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF INCORPORATING THE GAS LINE. I THINK THIS HAS GIVE P NEW LIFE DO THIS, IN RESPONSE TO
OTHER STUFF. >> GOOD, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> YEP. >> ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO VISIT
WITH US? >> I'M (INDISCERNIBLE) 8 ACRES THE COUNTY PROPERTY JUST NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GAS LINE?
>> YES, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GAS LINE, THE EASEMENT THERE. I KNOW THERE'S AT LEAST TWO IF NOT THREE LINES THAT GO BACK THERE. I KNOW THEY'VE REPLACED ONE SINCE I'VE LIVED THERE, UM, AS FAR AS JUST CONCERNS OF UM, WHEN THIS IS DEVELOP AND EVERYTHING, HOW IT MIGHT AFFECT AS FAR AS THE UTILITIES WITH THOSE GAS LINES CROSSING THEM, IF THERE'S GOING
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TON AN UNDERGROUND POWER LINES, I'M NOT EXPERIENCED WITH CROSSING HUGE GAS LINES AS FAR AS THE BUILDING PROCESS GOES, SO, JUST AS A CONCERN WITH MY FAMILY LIVING RIGHT ABOVE IT, AS FAR AS LEAKS GO AND SEEING MORE POWER LINES ALREADY ABOVE GROUND ALL IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE, HOW THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED AND ALSO THE LARGE POND ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, IF THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN IN PLACE WHICH, I HOPE THAT IT DOES, BUT IS, NO PLANS -- I SEE THAT IT SAYS IT WILL BE UM, UTILIZED AS STORM WATER RETENTION FACILITY. UM, AND, THAT, THAT LOT 15, SHALL BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY OF ABILENE AS STORM WATER RETENTION ON THE EASEMENT, SO, AS FAR AS ANY CASES, I DON'T KNOW JUST AS A CURIOSITY AS A LANDOWNER NEXT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IF THAT'S GOING TO BE CONSIDERED AS FAR AS GOING TO BE STAYING THERE, BECAUSE IF NOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT WATER TABLE THERE OR ANYTHING TO THAT NATURE SO JUST FROM A CURIOSITY STANDPOINT AND CONCERNED HOMEOWNER BESIDE THE PROPERTY.>> BJ, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THIS?
>> SURE. >> I MEAN, I CAN ADDRESS IT FOR HIM, BUT I FIGURED THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE DESIGN, SO.
>> BJ PRITCHARD. I THINK IN REGARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS OF THE PIPE LINES, THE GAS COMPANIES, I ASSURE YOU ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT PEOPLE IN THE WORLD TO DEAL WITH, AS FAR AS GETTING ACROSS TO THEM, I WOULD SAY THEY'RE WORSE THAN RAILROADS AND THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING. THERE ARE FIVE DIFFERENT PIPE LINES IN THERE, I BELIEVE. AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MANY COMPANIES THERE ARE, I BELIEVE THERE'S AT LEAST TWO THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND THEY ALL HAVE VERY SPECIFIC, STRICT GUIDELINES ON HOW THEY HAVE TO BE CROSSED. ALL THE UTILITIES GOING IN WILL BE GOING IN UNDERNEATH AND ALL THE GAS LINES WILL NOT BE EXCAVATED OR DUG UP AT ANY TIME. POWER, I WOULD ASSUME IS GOING TO BE UNDERGROUND, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IT DOWN THERE. CHANCES ARE THEY WILL COME DOWN, WE HAVE ANOTHER UTILITY RUNNING EAST AND WEST ACROSS THE ADJACENT COMPANY, THEY MAY COME IN THAT WAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD TRY TO NECESSARILY CROSS ANY OF POSE PIPE LINES. THE IT RETENTION POND SLASH STOP TANK NOW IS LARGELY GOING TO STAY AND IT WILL BE MODIFIED SLIGHTLY TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN THE STORM WATER IT NEEDS TO CONTAIN AND THERE'LL BE A CONTROL RELEASE TO MONITOR AND CONTROL THE STORM WATER THAT GETS COLLECT THERE HAD. BUT IT'S GOING TO LIKELY BE LEFT IN A GRASSY AREA WH.
>> THE INTENTION IS TO STILL ALLOW IT TO IMPOUND WATER AND MAINTAIN A PERMANENT WATER PULL ON TOP OF THAT.
>> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> ANYONE ELSE? >> APPRECIATE EVERYONE VISITING WITH US ON IT. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION OR A MOTION?
>> I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> I'LL SECOND. >> AND A SECOND.
>> AND THE MOTION TO APPROVE CARRIES.
>> THIS WAS A VERY INTERESTING MEETING. I DIDN'T EXPECT IT WHEN I
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