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[CALL TO ORDER]

[2. Ordinance (Final Reading): Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Ordering a City of Abilene Special Election to be Held on Tuesday, November 8, 2022, for the Purpose of Amending Sections of the Charter of the City of Abilene (Shawna Atkinson)]

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>> EARLY VOTING WILL BEGIN MONDAY, OCTOBER FOR:24 THROUGH NOVEMBER 4. ELECTION DAY IS OBVIOUSLY THE EIGHTH.

WE WILL CANVAS ELECTION TENTATIVELY (INDISCERNIBLE) AT ANOTHER SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT -- NECK AND READ THIS VERBATIM BUT I WILL SAY THE FIRST CHARTER AMENDMENT PROPOSITION IS GENDER-NEUTRAL LANGUAGE.RESENTLY THE CHARTER USES COUNSEL MAN, HE AND HIM EXCLUSIVELY -- THE MASCULINE EXCLUSIVELY.

MOST CHARTERS IN TEXAS, I'M SURE NOT ALL BUT CERTAINLY MOST HAVE GONE TO GENERAL: GENDER NEUTRAL LANGUAGE WHERE IT'S COUNCILMEMBER INSTEAD OF COUNSEL MAN INSTEAD AND IT'S HE AND HIM AND SHE AND HER.O WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HAVE INCLUSIVE LANGUAGE FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

THAT'S THE FIRST AMENDMENT. THE SECOND AMENDMENT FOLLOWS ALONG THAT -- COUNSEL MAN, COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMEMBER COUNCIL MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER 3 WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS SECTION OF THE CHARTER THAT GIVES THE PARKS BOARD A POWER THAT THEY ARE REALLY NOT USING BECAUSE IT VIOLATES ANOTHER PART OF THE CHARTER.

IN (INDISCERNIBLE) GOVERNMENT. WE GO TO OUR PARKS BOARD FOR POLICY AND GUIDANCE, BUT THEY DO NOT MANAGE THE EMPLOYEES.

AND SO WE WANT TO CLARIFY WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THE POLICIES THAT THEY ENACT. THAT WOULD BE THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE CHARTER. SO THIS WOULD CLARIFY THAT LANGUAGE. IT DOES NOT REMOVE ANY OF THE POWERS AND AUTHORITIES THE PARKS BOARD HAS.

THERE PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE POWERFUL BOARDS IN THE CHARTER.

AND WAS SET UP FOR THAT REASON AND THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THAT.

IT JUST SETS THE COUNCILMEMBER RELATIONSHIP WHERE IT SHOULD BE. AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE PARKS BOARD AND THE COUNCIL MANAGER RELATIONSHIP. THIS CLEARLY FOLLOWS THE PRACTICE TODAY, WHERE THE MANAGER HIRES AND APPOINTS THE PARKS DIRECTOR -- THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR WITHOUT ANY INFLUENCE FROM THE PARKS BOARD. WHICH IS GOOD, BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGER WORKS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, HE DOESN'T WORK FOR THE PARKS BOARD. (INDISCERNIBLE) ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THE CITY. THE FIFTH AMENDMENT TALKS ABOUT THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THE ONLY CHANGE HERE IS THERE IS A CHARTER REQUIREMENT THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PROVIDE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IDEAS 90 DAYS BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET. WHEN I GOT HERE, IT WAS

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HISTORIC FOR US TO DO THAT. SOMETIMES IT WAS HISTORIC FOR US NOT TO DO IT. IT JUST DEPENDS.

WOULD NOT ALWAYS HAVE THE CLEAREST PRACTICE ON THIS.

SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE TRIED TO ENGAGE THEM.

THE LAST COUPLE YEARS IT HASN'T BEEN -- THE DIALOGUE ISN'T WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE WE SET FORTH THROUGH OUR MASTER PLAN PROCESS WHAT ARE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE.

RATHER THAN HAVING TO FRUSTRATE THE PROCESS AGAIN AND AGAIN, IT'S PROBABLY (INDISCERNIBLE) TO REMOVE THIS.

WE HAVE A PUBLIC PROCESS FOR HOW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE CHOSEN, SELECTED AND DONE. WE FOLLOW OUR MASTER PLAN PROCESS FOR THAT. IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE REMOVING PUBLIC INPUT AND DISCUSSION IS JUST WE ARE REMOVING A STEP THAT WE DON'T USE HISTORICALLY AND WE DON'T USE WELL TODAY.

IN THE FINAL CHARTER AMENDMENT IS CLARIFYING LANGUAGE.

IT REALLY DOESN'T DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING THAT'S EFFECTIVE RIGHT NOW WITH THE LAW IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF ABILENE ARE PROHIBITED FROM PARTICIPATING IN LOCAL ELECTIONS.

THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT IS POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS WORKING IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CIVIL SERVICE LAW. THE ONLY THING THIS DOES IS ADD THAT CLARITY SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION.

THERE'S NO CONFUSION FOR THE NEXT CITY MANAGER OR THE CHAIR.

THERE'S NO CONFUSION FOR THE NEXT A POA OR FIREFIGHTER ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT. IT'S VERY CLEAR FOR ALL CONCERNED AND THERE'S NO CONFUSION FOR COUNCIL EITHER.

ADJUST, AGAIN, PROVIDES A GREATER LEVEL OF CLARITY.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL

PRIOR TO PUBLIC HEARING? >> MR. HANNA, I KNOW ONCE WE CALL FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW CHAMPION FORWARD GAINST ANY OF THESE THINGS.

WHAT KIND OF PUBLIC INFORMATION, PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN WILL BE DUE? THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS.

BUT WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW.

ILL THERE BE A PUBLIC EDUCATION THAT I WILL DO OR

SOMEONE WILL DO? >> (INDISCERNIBLE) ADVOCATE FOR AGAINST OR ABOUT MEASURES WE CAN'T ADVOCATE.

WE CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION. WE WILL LIKELY DO AN FAQ WHICH IS WHAT WE DID IN THE (INDISCERNIBLE) BOND.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PACT THAT WOULD BE FORMED TO PURSUE THESE ISSUES. THESE ARE REALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL ELEMENTS. IF NONE OF THEM PASSED, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE OUR PRACTICE. WE ARE SIMPLY CLARIFYING LANGUAGE. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER MCALISTER, WE WILL PROBABLY BE LIMITED TO AN FAQ SHEET ON OUR WEBSITE AND HOPEFULLY THE PRESS WILL PICK

IT UP. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE) THANK YOU, MR. HANNA.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND

GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> IS IT THOMAS ANGERMEIER?

>> WE WILL HAVE A THREE LIMIT LIMIT AND LET US KNOW IF YOU ARE IN ABILENE RESIDENT ARE NOT FOR CLARIFICATION.

>> MY NAME IS THOMAS ANGERMEIER I'M IN ABILENE CITY RESIDENT AND I'M IN A POSITION IN THIS CHANGE OF THE CITY CHARTER.

I THINK IT'S LUDICROUS. THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY HE'S IN CHEESE AND HYMNS AND HERS. IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS THAT TIME SHOULD BE EVEN SPENT ON MAKING A CHANGE TO THAT.

I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS. THANK YOU.

>> ERIC (NAME). >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL ON MY NAME IS ERIC (NAME) I DO LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS OF ABILENE.

I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE GENDER-NEUTRALLANGUAGE .

I'M PRETTY SURE WE ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE STORY HOW TO BOIL A FROG. TAKE A POT, LUKEWARM WATER, BUT THE FROG IN IT AND THEN YOU TURN THE FIRE ON.

AND THEN IT JUST SLOWLY HEATS UP AND HEATS UP AND HEATS UP.

PRETTY SOON YOU HAVE A BOILED FROG.

YOU TRY TO THROW A FROG INTO A BOILING POT OF WATER, A LOT OF CHAOS, A LOT OF SPLASH. A LOT OF SUFFERING.

AND SO, AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT CAMETO MIND . WE ARE JUST KIND OF SLOWLY INCREASING TEMPERATURE OF THE WATER.

AND PRETTY SOON WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A BOILED FROG.

AND IT WILL BE SUBTLE AND IT WILL BE INSIDIOUS.

AND SO, I THINK THINGS LIKE THIS JUST KIND OF TURN THAT TEMPERATURE UP ONE MORE DEGREE, ONE MORE DEGREE.MR. HANNA, YOU REFERENCED THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING POLICY THAT'S KIND OF BEEN DONE ACROSS THE STATE AND MANY CITIES.

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WHY? WHY DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT? WHY DO WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO FOLLOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING?WE'VE GOT A PLAN IN PLACE THAT WORKS PRETTY WELL.

I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT GENDER IS AND A MAN AND A WOMAN. IF THIS GETS TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE NOW HAVING TO INCLUDE ALL GENDERS OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK ON SOME FORMS -- GOVERNMENT FORMS -- AND THERE ARE ARE 30, 40, 50 CHOICES.

ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? OR BEGIN HAVE TO SAY WELL, WE HAVE TO INCLUDE ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

THIS IS A SMALL THING. IT'S REALLY NOT THAT HUGE.

BUT IT'S TURNING THE FIRE UP JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND I JUST -- I'M CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> JAMES DAVIS, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK? YOU WERE IN OPPOSITION, TOO, JAMES DAVIS.

MICHAEL GRANT FISHER. >> GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

GRANT FISHER, ABILENE TEXAS. I ALSO LIKE TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION -- NOT FOR ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS, BUT FOR THE GENDER-NEUTRAL LANGUAGE.OTS OF QUESTIONS COME TO MIND WHEN I READ THAT. YOU KNOW, ONE, WHO IS ACTUALLY REQUESTING THIS CHANGE? DOES THAT COME FROM CITY MANAGER? IS THATTHE CITY ATTORNEY? WHO THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA? AND WHY IS IT PERTINENT? WHAT'S WE HAVE TO START HOLDING EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE.

THIS IS ABILENE TEXAS. THIS IS IN AUSTIN.

THAT'S WHY I CAME HERE. AND I'LL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES FOR THAT NOT TO HAPPEN. WHAT ARE THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS IN FUTURE (INDISCERNIBLE) FOR THESE CHANGES? AS ERIC MENTIONED, WHAT ELSE COMES DOWN THE LINE? ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE CITY APPLICATIONS? ARE WE GONNA COME UP WITH 55+ GENDERS? ARE WE GOING TO PLAY ALONG WITH THE GAME OF TODAY? WHEN GENTLEMEN, MA'AM -- THERE'S ONLY MALE AND FEMALE.

IT'S CLEAR. I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY IN WASHINGTON DC OR NEW YORK CITY OR LA.

THIS IS ABILENE, TEXAS. AND I WOULD THINK MOST OF YOU WOULD AGREE WITH ME ON THAT. BUT ALSO ASK HAS ANYONE EVER FILED A FORMAL COMPLAINT ABOUT OUR CHARTER LANGUAGE? IS ANYONE OFFENDED BY IT? HAVE WE HAD ANYBODY LOOK ONLINE TO FIND IT? IT'S HARD TO FIND.

I LOOKED IT UP IT'S NOT EASY TO FIND.

IF YOU ARE OFFENDED, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IT.

YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AN OFFENSE. OR IS THIS REALLY JUST SOME PART OF A DEEPER AGENDA THAT'S NOT GOT ROOTS JUST IN THE LIBRARY BUT IN EVERYTHING? WHO IS BEHIND IT? WHO WAS DRIVING IT? IT NEEDS TO STOP! IT DOES NOT REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF ABILENE.

APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE, BUT WE WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU VOTE -- YOUR VIDEO? WE CAN WATCH IT.

EACH ONE OF YOU VOTED TO BE A SERVANT OF THE PEOPLE.

WE ARE GOING TO WATCH HOW YOU VOTE ON THESE ISSUES.

WE ARE GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.> MR. MAYOR, WROTE QUICKLY BRIEFLY, TALK ABOUT THE ORIGINS -- BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY BEEN A TWO-YEAR CONVERSATION. AND ALSO, PROVIDING A CLARITY ABOUT ANY SORT OF OUTSIDE ENTITIES, ROOTS -- IF YOU WOULD JUST PROVIDE CLARITY SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS IN REGARDS TO WHAT IS BEFORE THEM AND HOW WE GOT HERE?

>> WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CHARTER AMENDMENT DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

THE ONES THAT ARE BEFORE US TODAY WERE THE ONES THAT THE COUNCILS ASKED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THIS IN CASE THERE'S ANY CONFUSION.

RIGHT NOW, THE CHARTER ONLY ADDRESSES THE MASCULINE.O THERE IS NO RECOGNITION OF THE FEMALE IN A CHARTER.

PERIOD. IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING.O THE ONLY THING WE ARE ASKING IS THAT WE CALL A MAN A MAN AND WOMAN A WOMAN. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THIS IS DOING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR. OTHER THAN THAT, WHAT OTHER

QUESTIONS CAN ADDRESS FOR YOU? >> (INDISCERNIBLE) OUTSIDE

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GROUP THAT HAS PROVIDED ANY SORT OF RECOMMENDATION IN REGARDS TO LANGUAGE. REALLY, PROVIDING -- DONNA ALBUS IS A GREAT COUNCILMEMBER. SHE'S NOT A COUNCILMAN.

SO THAT'S A SMALL PART. MOST IS STRUCTURE IN REGARDS TO PARKS AND REC. AND SO, I WANT TO BE SURE -- IT MAY NOT FEEL LARGER NARRATIVE, BUT THERE IS REALLY -- THIS IS (INDISCERNIBLE) CONTRIVE IN REGARDS TO SOME SORT OF A LARGER AGENDA. WE DON'T HAVE 50 GENDERS.

THERE ARE TWO GENDERS. SO I WANT TO BE SURE THAT (INDISCERNIBLE) REFLECTS THAT.

IT. SABRINA PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT AND THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE.

YOU, THE COMMUNITY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M NOT SURE (INDISCERNIBLE) ON THE BALLOT DOESN'T CHANGE THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS. BUT RATHER, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO UP-TOME VERBIAGE IN OUR C THAT WAS WRITTEN IN 1962.

SO I HOPE THAT PROVIDES A LITTLE CLARITY.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION NEXT THURSDAY.

(INDISCERNIBLE) PERTINENT THINGS THAT MAY BE A LITTLE MORE LIVELY. WITH THAT --

>> CAN I -- >> YOU MADE.

>> YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE RECOGNIZING THE TWO GENDERS

IN THIS?>> (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).

>> (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). >> SO -- YOU CAN MAKE A COMMENT BUT WE ARE NOT ALLOWING A TWO WAY CONVERSATION IN THE

AUDIENCE. >> I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE IS RECOGNIZING MEN AND WOMEN. THAT'S ALL WE ARE DOING.

THAT'S IT. THERE'S NO AGENDA, THERE'S NO BACKSTORY. WE ARE INCLUDING WOMEN IN THE CONVERSATION. THAT'S IT.

>> AND FOR FURTHER CLARITY, WERE LETTING THE CITIZENS OF ABILENE VOTE ON IT. (INDISCERNIBLE).

AND BY THE WAY, (INDISCERNIBLE) PROVIDE CLARITY IN TODAY'S LANGUAGE SO IT'S EASY DISCERNMENT THERE.

IT'S NOTHING BEYOND THAT. >> IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERE IS ONLY MALE AND FEMALE. AND I AGREE, THERE'S ONLY MALE AND FEMALE. AND THAT'S WHY IN OUR CHARTER, MENTION MALE AND FEMALE. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ALLOWING THE CITIZENS -- THE VOTING CITIZENS WHO ARE ACTUAL TAXPAYERS AND WHO ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE IN THE CITY WHO DON'T COME IN FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY AND TRY --

>> WEER IN PUBLIC HEARING, (INDISCERNIBLE) FOR AND AGAINST

THIS ITEM. >> (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> YOU THREE MINUTES. WE DON'T ALLOW AGAIN.

ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK OR CONTRIBUTE? BY THE WAY, THIS COUNCIL PUTS FORTH PUBLIC COMMENT AT EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO WE WILL AVAIL THAT OPPORTUNITY NEXT THURSDAY, COME ONE, COME ON.

(INDISCERNIBLE). >> GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. JAMES SERGEANT.

CITY OF ABILENE. MY CONCERN IS MR. (NAME) POINTED OUT THIS SLIPPERY SLOPE THIS CAN BE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S GREAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE MALE AND FEMALE.

SINCE THE CREATION OF MANKIND THERE HAS BEEN MALE AND FEMALE.

MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE INSTEAD OF COUNCILPERSON'S, YOU ARE COUNCIL MEMBERS. BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND NOT PERSONS OF THE COUNCIL.

THAT COULD BE A CHANGE? >> THAT IS WHAT THE BALLOTS (INDISCERNIBLE)

>> MY APOLOGIES. WAS MISTAKEN ON THAT (LAUGHING).

I'VE HAD A CRAZY MORNING, SO --.

THEN, THAT'S --

>> (INDISCERNIBLE) OPPOSITION AT ALL TO THE LANGUAGE?

>> I AM OPPOSED TO IT. BUT IT'S GOING TO THE VOTE AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILL DECIDE.

MY APOLOGIES ON THAT (LAUGHING).

>> NO PROBLEM. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A PUBLIC

FORM. >> YES, SIR.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.> WE ARE STILL IN A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND/OR COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN PRICE?

>> JUST ONE MORE COMMENT THAT NOT ONLY WILL THESE GO BEFORE THE VOTERS, THEY ARE ALL BROKEN OUT.O IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LANGUAGE, YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST THAT AND VOTE FOR LIKE THE PLANET AND ZONING CHANGE IN THE PARKS AND REC CHANGE. SO THEY ARE ALL SEPARATE.

IT'S NOT ONE BLOCK VOTE YOU HAVE TO SAY YES OR NO TO EVERYTHING. IT'S SPECIFICALLY THE HIM /HER VERSUS JUST HIM AND COUNCILMEMBER VERSUS COUNSEL

MAN. >> THANK YOU.

(INDISCERNIBLE) CONVERSATION JUST ABOUT THIS.

WE VERY SELDOM CHANGE THE CHARTER STOP WE VERY SELDOM PUT FORTH TO VOTERS ALLOWING THEM TO CHANGE THE CHARTER.

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THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST THOUGHT MADE SENSE.

(INDISCERNIBLE) THIS NOVEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER ALBUS.

>> YES. SINCE FEMALES MAKE UP HALF THE POPULATION IN OUR FAIR CITY, AND SINCE I MOVED HERE IN 1968, I WOULD PUT MY RESUME UP AGAINST ANY OF YOURS ABOUT INVOLVEMENT.ND FOR THE LAST 5 AND A HALF YEARS, I'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED HERE ON THE COUNCIL.

IT IS SO NICE TO FINALLY BE RECOGNIZED.

THAT THE FEMALES IN THE CITY CONTRIBUTE AS MUCH AS THE MALES. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PUTTING THE MALES DOWN. IT MEANS THAT WE ARE FINALLY BEING RECOGNIZED. AND NO, I DIDN'T DRIVE THIS TRAIN, AND NO, I DIDN'T BRING IT UP! BUT THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR FINALLY RECOGNIZING THAT WOMEN IN THIS TOWN ARE MAJOR CONTRIBUTORS!

>> ABSOLUTELY! >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? IS THAT A MOTION?

>> JUST FOR CLARITY, WE ARE ADDING SHE, HER, COUNCILMEMBER

AND COUNCIL MEMBERS? >> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

ES SIR. >> SAY THAT AGAIN?

>> WE ARE ADDING SHE AND HER AND COUNCILMEMBER AND COUNCIL

MEMBERS. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.