Aug 25, 2022 City Council

[CALL TO ORDER]

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WE WILL NOW CALL THE ABILENE CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. FATHERS AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE GIVEN TO US. AND THE MANY WAYS YOU HAVE BLESSED US.

WE INVITE YOU TO BE WITH US TODAY AND SOLICIT YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR GUIDANCE.

SO WE CAN DO THINGS TODAY GLORY TO YOU, YOUR SON INTO YOUR NAME. WE ARE MINDFUL OF OUR COUNTRY AND PRAY FOR THOSE LEADERS WHO LEAD THIS COUNTRY. AND WE PRAY FOR OUR STATE AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN AUTHORITY TO DO SO. THEY WILL BE CONSISTENT IN REGARDS TO THE CHURCH YOU HAVE GIVEN THEM. AND WE PRAY FOR THE WORLD WE LIVE IN IN THIS CHANGING WORLD. THAT WE ARE MINDFUL OF THE VIEW OF YOUR SON AND YOUR COMMANDMENT. NOT JUST LOVING YOU, BUT LOVING OUR NEIGHBOR. AND ALLOWING OUR DEMONSTRATION TO MANIFEST EVERYTHING WE DO. IN THESE THINGS WE SAY IN YOUR LORD'S NAME, AMEN.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. A TOOTH THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>>> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, AND THE STATE UNDER GOD. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: WE WILL GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 15. ALL I WOULD OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT IN JUST A BIT. IF YOU ARE HERE FOR NUMBER 15 AND WOULD ASK YOU TO USE YOUR TIME AT THAT TIME. IT SHOULD NOT BE A LONG MEETING AND SPEAK ON THOSE THINGS WHICH ARE NEEDED. WE DO HAVE A TIMER FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY. THAT TIMER IS THREE MINUTES. KAITLYN HAS

[CONSENT AGENDA AND PUBLIC COMMENTS]

CONSISTING OF ITEMS TO TO ITEM 13. AND WE CAN ERASE WITH ONE MOTION AND THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE MOTION UNLESS A COUNCILMEMBER REQUEST SEPARATE DISCUSSION. ANY ITEM ON THIS CONSENT AGENDA TEAM THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL ASIDE? WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THERE WILL BE NO BOTH OF SUCH PRESENTED PUBLIC COMMENT. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL ONLY ALLOW PUBLIC TO PRESENT IDEAS AND INFORMATION. TOOTH CITY AND STEP PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY YOU RESIDE IN FOR THE RECORD. DO WE

HAVE ANY CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ONLY? >> DAVID SCHWARTZ.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: DAVID SCHWARTZ. >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING DAVID SCHWARTZ REGIONAL HOTEL WEST. WHAT WE SEE WILL BE AWARDED, THE TRAIL. EVEN THOUGH AT THE COUNCIL MEETING AT THE LIBRARY YOU SAID YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SAVING CITIZENS MONEY. AND EVEN THE OWNER GOT UP THERE AND SAID OUR BID WAS OVER WHY DIDN'T YOU TAKE IT? THAT MONEY

OVER GOOD. IS WHAT THEY SAY. >> ACCORDING TO THE CONCEPT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE A WALK

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YOU GO RIGHT OUT HERE TO WALNUT WHICH CITY HALL SITS ON. YOU GO FROM SIX TO 13TH WERE HERALDS USED TO BE. THAT ROAD IS SCARING IT IS SO BAD I GUESS WE WILL NEVER FINISH IT. IN THE BUSINESSES ON THAT ROUTE THEY PAY THEIR MONTHLY TRIP FACTOR IN THEIR STREET MAINTENANCE FEE.

BUT YET THE STREET IS LIKE THAT. IT IS HORRIBLE. AND AS FAR AS WE HAVE THIS BOND ELECTION COMING UP. WE TOOK A COMMISSION BUT SINCE THEN THE STATE AND THE FEDS HAVE REVERSED THE DECISION ON THAT SO REALLY IT IS A WASTE OF TIME TO DO THAT. BECAUSE IT IS BOTH COVERED UNDER STATE AND FEDERAL. SO I WOULD SUGEST WE SHOULD NOT HAVE EVEN HAD IT ON THERE. EVEN THOUGH IT IS ALREADY BEEN PUT ON THERE. AS FAR AS THE CITY CHARTER, ALL THOSE YOU SHOULD SAY NO ON EVERY ONE OF THEM. BUT SAY YES TO FIRE PROTECTION. IF YOU CAN SAVE ONE FAMILY THAT THE FIRE STATION WOULD BE WORTH IT. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: MR. KNORR HE DID NOT HAVE A ITEM NUMBER. DID YOU WANT PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU WILL SAFER NUMBER 15TH. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WE ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THOSE WHAT TO SPEAK ON THE LIBRARY NUMBER 15, THERE WILL BE TIME ALLOTTED TO MAKE COMMENT ON THAT AGENDA ITEM. BUT AMANDA KNOX, I JUST WANT TO SPEAK I HAVE MY GRANDKIDS WHAT YOU CAN ALL SPEAK WHICH IS TIME TO PROVIDE STRUCTURE.

JUST GIVE YOUR NAME, AND THE CITY RESIDE QUICK MY NAME IS MAUREEN NOOM I AM IN ABILENE RESIDENT. LAST WEEK I WENT TO FILL UP MY CAR WITH GAS.

AND WHEN I WENT TO THE GAS STATION I WAS DISTRACTED BY MAKE TWO PRECIOUS GRANDKIDS. AND I DEARLY GRABS THE GREEN NOZZLE INSTEAD OF THE BLACK NOZZLE. IN MY OWNERS MANUAL TELLS ME I CANNOT PUT DIESEL FUEL IN MY GASOLINE ENGINE. IT IS A HANDY OWNERS MANUAL BECAUSE IT HELPS ME TO MAINTENANCE MY CAR PROPERLY. HERE ARE TWO MORE OWNERS MANUALS THIS ONE IS THE CONSTITUTION. AND IT IS FULL OF BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES. ALL OF IT BIBLICAL.

THIS, BY THE WAY, IS MY BIBLE. THERE IS A COMMON MISCONCEPTION IN THIS COUNTRY WE SOMEHOW HAVE TO SEPARATE CHURCH AND STATE. AND THERE IS NOWHERE IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THAT. I WOULD CHALLENGE ANYONE TO FIND IT. THAT MISCONCEPTION CAME ACTUALLY FROM A LETTER. THAT WAS WRITTEN BY THOMAS JEFFERSON TO A CONCERNED PREACHER. HE WAS WORRIED THAT THERE WOULD BE A ONE STATE RELIGION AS HAD BEEN IN GREAT BRITAIN. SO HE WROTE THOMAS JEFFERSON AND JEFFERSON REPLIED. AND HE ASSURED THE PASTOR THERE WOULD BE THAT SEPARATION. BUT IT WAS TO PROTECT THE CHURCH FROM THE GOVERNMENT, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. WE'VE GOTTEN IT COMPLETELY BACKWARDS. THESE PRINCIPLES SHOULD BE PERVASIVE IN EVERY FACET OF OUR GOV GOVERNMENT. EVERY DECISION MADE. SHOULD BE BASED ON THESE PRINCIPLES. IN THIS BOOK IT SAYS THAT IT IS BETTER FOR A MAN TO HAVE A MILLSTONE HUNG AROUND HIS NECK AND THROWN INTO THE SEA THAN TO CAUSE ONE OF THESE LITTLE CHILDREN TO FALL INTO SIN. SO, PLEASE, DON'T THINK BYPASSING THIS PARENTAL POLICY THAT YOU ARE SOMEHOW PASSING THE BUCK. PLEASE DON'T BELIEVE THAT BY PLACING THE RESPONSIBILITY SOLELY ON THE PARENT, THAT YOU WILL SOMEHOW BE ABSOLVED FROM

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ACCOUNTABILITY. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: IN A PUBLIC COMMENT ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK, TODAY?

>> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING MAYOR, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, CITY OFFICIALS AND CITY STAFF. I LISTEN TO DOUG SHEETS DAILY IS A PODCAST CALLED GIVING 15 AND HE SHARED.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? ABILENE TEXAS. DOROTHY CLAIRE, ABILENE TEXAS. DOUG SHEETS IS A RECOGNIZED AUTHOR, GIFTED LEADER AND SPEAKER. AND HE HAS A POWERFUL PRAYER AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. FATHER, WE HAVE NOTHING BUT COMPASSION FOR THOSE STRUGGLING WITH GENDER IDENTITY. BUT WE REJECT EVERY PLANT THAT FORCES OF BIBLICAL IDEAS AND PHILOSOPHIES OF US AND OUR CHILDREN. CONTINUE TO EXPOSE THE EVIL AGENDA OF THOSE WHO OPPOSE YOU AND YOUR WAYS. WE THANK YOU FOR REVEALING THEIR PLANS AND EXPOSING THEIR FOOLISH IDEOLOGIES. CONTINUE SHINING YOUR LIGHT ON THEIR MANY EFFORTS. FORGIVE US AS A NATION FOR VOTING INTERGOVERNMENTAL POSITIONS THOSE WHO OPPOSE AND DISHONOR YOU AND YOUR WORD. AND FORGIVE US FOR ALLOWING EDUCATORS OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS TO INDOCTRINATE GENERATION OF AMERICANS. WITH AN HUMANISTIC AND BIBLICAL PHILOSOPHIES BUT HELP US TO REVERSE THIS. WE FIND AND FORGIVE THESE EFFORTS TO INDOCTRINATE AND ENSLAVE OUR CHILDREN. WE BOLDLY DECLARE THAT THEY WILL FAIL. THAT THE INSANITY OF IT WILL BECOME CLEAR. WE ASK YOU, FATHER, TO CAUSE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS TO RISE UP AND SAY ENOUGH. GIVE US WISE STRATEGIES. AND GIVE IT TO THOSE IN GOVERNMENT AND LEGAL PROFESSIONS. MAY THEY BE GIVEN YOUR WISDOM. AND, LASTLY, WE ASK YOU TO MOVE ON HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST ALL OF THE PLANS THAT WOULD TEAR DOWN THIS GREAT NATION. WE ASK FOR ALL OF THIS IN THE POWERFUL NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD, AMEN. GOD BLESS YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. [APPLAUSE] LOOK GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER AND ERIC WILLIAMS I AM IN ABILENE RESIDENT. AS OF YESTERDAY WARNING I TOOK A SCREENSHOT OF THE WEBPAGE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. AND IT DOES SAY UNDER THE WILL BE TWO MEETINGS A MONTH. ONE THE SECOND THURSDAY OF THE FOURTH THURSDAY.

IT ALSO STATES THAT THE FIRST ONE WILL BE AT 8:30 AND THE SECOND ONE WILL BE AT 4:30. THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE FOR A LONG TIME. I DICK DURBIN FOLKS LEFT OUT IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT BE HERE AT 8:30. I'M PUTTING IT OUT TO YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN THAT WILL GO BACK INTO EFFECT? WHEN WILL THAT 4:30 MEETING HAPPEN AGAIN SO THAT WE CAN INVOLVE MORE OF OUR

CITIZENS HERE. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: IT IS STILL

THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. >> COUNCILMAN ALBUS: GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS ERICA PATTON. AND I AM A RESIDENT HERE IN ABILENE.

AND I HAVE A REAL CONCERN FOR IS A VERY UNSAFE SITUATION. I BELIEVE IT IS WELL OVER A MILE.

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YOU CAN GET THEM THERE ON TIME BUT ONE TIME IT MIGHT TAKE 15 MINUTES. AND ANOTHER TIME YOU MIGHT BE THERE 3.5 HOURS. AND IT IS HARD TO COORDINATE. SOMETIMES THE MEN OR WOMEN DON'T HAVE PHONES YET. 'S ARTICLE NATE WENT TO PICK UP, WHAT TIME.

AND IF THERE WAS A STANDARD BUS ROUTE TO GET FROM PAROLE AND BACK HOME.

THIS WOULD, I SEE, SOLVE A LOT OF THE ISSUES. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO MAYBE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT. WAYS WE CAN SOLVE THIS ISSUE OF GETTING MEN AND WOMEN. TRYING TO GET TO THE PAROLE OFFICE SAFELY.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: ANYONE ELSE? >> COUNCILMAN ALBUS: GOOD MORNING MAYOR, FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS MY NAME IS DOUG OFFERMAN THE 2231 OLD IRONSIDES.

I AM SORRY I HAVE STAYED AWAY SO LONG BUT IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD HELP THE COUNCIL FATHERS AND STAY IN ONE MEETINGS LIKE THIS IS EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.

WHAT I DID WAS EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON HOW TO APPEAL DECISIONS THAT ARE STRONGLY FELT ON EITHER SIDE BY THE PUBLIC. I HAVE DEVELOPED A CARD GAME CALLED PARLY TALK WHAT MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD OPERATE MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN WHAT YOU ARE NOW. NOBODY LIKES LONG MEETINGS. BUT THEY DO LIKE BEING ABLE TO HAVE THEIR SAY AND FEEL THEY ARE HAVING HEARD. AND CLEARLY BY THE NUMBER AND REPETITIVE TIMES THIS HAS OCCURRED. I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE. SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. AND I WILL PUT IT IN WRITING AND SEND YOU THIS IS ABOUT THE PUBLIC CHANGE. WHAT ARE THE DECISIONS, AND FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE SECRETARY. WHAT ARE THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC HEARINGS? WHERE A RULING IS MADE? AND MAYBE HAVE A LIST OF COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS. AND MAYBE HAVE A VIDEO OF IT THAT IS.

YOUNG THAT I THINK THERE IS CAUSE FOR CONCERN ABOUT SOME OF THE PROPOSAL THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ARE HERE TODAY. AND THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO TAKE A BRIEF MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT.

WHAT ARE GOOD PUBLIC LAWS? AND WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS? I AM SURE THE CITY ATTORNEY MAY HAVE SOME OF THOSE SUGGESTIONS AS WELL AS THE CITY MANAGER. BUT HERE IS WHAT PATRYK HENRY SAID. HE SAID SUSPICION IS A VIRTUE AS LONG AS IT SERVES THE PUBLIC GOOD. AND THAT IS WHERE I BEGIN TO SAY WHAT IS THE PUBLIC GOOD HERE? THAT IS WHAT SHOULD BE TALKED ABOUT AT THESE MEETINGS WITH CONTESTED ISSUES.

AND I COULD GO ON BUT I WILL GET BACK MY TIME TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE I RESPECT YOU GUYS SO MUCH. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? >> COUNCILMAN ALBUS: HELLO MY NAME IS CINDY TORRES AND I AM FROM ABILENE. I AM ACTUALLY FAIRLY NEW TO ABILENE CAME HERE TO RAISE MY CHILDREN. BECAUSE I HEARD WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT ABILENE FOR FAMILIES. I AM ALSO A CHILD DEVELOPMENT MINOR.

AND CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST MASTERS DEGREE. I HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE IN CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGY. WORKED WITH CHILDREN OVER TEN YEARS.

AND I AM HERE TRYING TO RAISE MY CHILDREN. WHAT DEVELOPMENT REALLY APPROPRIATE PRACTICES ARE. WHEN WE SEE THE BOOKS THAT ARE GOING OUT IN LIBRARY IT SCARES ME. TO SEE THAT NOBODY IS THINKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT JULIE APPROPRIATE BOOKS FOR CHILDREN. THEY ALSO, AS A PARENT, DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS POLICY HELPING ME MAKE DECISIONS. WHETHER SOMETHING IS DEVELOPMENT JULIE APPROPRIATE FOR MY CHILD.

WENT PI GO BY A TOY I SEE AND AGE STICKS TO THE CHILD. IF AIKO AND WANT TO WATCH T.V.

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THIS IS THERE WILL BE SEXUAL CONTENT, OR SEXUAL CONTENT. I AM SORRY.

OR WORDS THAT ARE INAPPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN. EVEN ALCOHOL OR VIOLENCE.

THE ARE NOT IN THE POLICIES LIBRARY. I THINK BOOKS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN TOYS. AND VIDEO GAMES OR MOVIES THAT ALREADY HAVE RATINGS.

I THINK BEING ABLE TO MAKE A RESPONSIBLE DECISION AS A PARENT.

I WOULD NEED MORE INFORMATION. I THINK THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY PEOPLE ARE LOSING PARENTS, LOSING TRUST IN THE SYSTEM AND I ONE OF THEM. THAT IS WHY I MOVED HERE.

AND I AM HOMESCHOOLING MY CHILDREN. AND TO COME TO KNOW I CAN'T TRUST IN THE LIBRARY SYSTEM ALSO. WHICH IS A PLACE WHERE KIDS CAN BE FREE. A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING.

WHERE OUR KIDS CAN BE KIDS. IT IS A. I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY. AND THAT IS BEING TAKEN AWAY.

I WANT TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE DRAW THE LINE. BECAUSE I AM RUNNING FROM CITIES THAT ARE NOT DRAWING THE LINE. SO WHEN WILL WE SAY, THIS IS IT? I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WE LIKE OUR CHILDREN TO KNOW THINGS. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SEXUAL CONTENT. DON'T GET ME WRONG. MY CHILDREN, I AM A CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST, ABOUT SEX. THEY KNOW ABOUT DIFFERENT KINDS OF SEX BUT IT COMES FROM BEING TAUGHT FROM A BOOK. A LOT TO LET MY KIDS GO AND PICK BOOKS FROM THE LIBRARY AND I CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. LASTLY, CAN JUST SAY ONE MORE THING.

ON A COAT TO THE LIBRARY. IF YOU WILL A RELIGIOUS BOOK, YOU PICK A BOOK YOU SEE A CROSS ON IT, IT IS LABELED. I JUST WANT THE SAME THING FOR MY CHILDREN.

SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT THEY ARE READING. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: IT IS STILL PUBLIC COMMENT.. [APPLAUSE] ..

[APPLAUSE].. [APPLAUSE] IS THERE ANYONE ELSE [APPLAUSE] IS P.

[APPLAUSE] IS E. [APPLAUSE] IS RI. [APPLAUSE] IS O.

[APPLAUSE] IS D. [APPLAUSE] IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? >> MY NAME IS REBECCA GINGRICH AND 11 APPLING. HONESTLY, FIRST AND FOREMOST I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THAT YOU HAVE SPENT, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR. HAS BEEN VERY GRACIOUS I WANT TO KNOW EVERYBODY KNOWS IT IS NOT LIKE THE CITY HAS NOT TRIED TO WORK WITH US, THEY HAVE BEEN.

AND I WANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WE HAVE BEEN MAKING ATTEMPTS. AND IS GONE BOTH WAYS.

AND HAS BEEN GOING BOTH WAYS A COUPLE OF MONTHS. I WANT TO PUT A NUMBER OTHER INTO WANT TO TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME. 3,221,808 IS THE NUMBER OF A FROST SEARCH IN THE LIBRARY DATABASE THAT CAPTURES THROUGH THE CONSORTIUM 12 POTENTIAL INCOMING DATA STREAMS. SOME PEOPLE ARE REALLY DOUBTING MY MOTIVATION.

HONESTLY, I JUST WANT TO FIND OUT HOW THINGS ARE COMING IN. AND ARE THERE ANY INTERNAL CONTROLS. THAT IS A HUGE NUMBER, AN ABSOLUTELY HUGE NUMBER AND IT SOUNDS INSURMOUNTABLE. BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THERE'S NOTHING TOO BIG FOR GOD.

GOD IS A THAT ALL OF US. AND I KNOW WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER AND ACCOMPLISH GREAT

THINGS FOR HIS WORK. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? I JUST WANT YOU, YOU INDICATED WE GIVE TO AGAIN.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS I JUST NOTICED MR. GARCIA WAS ON HIS WAY OUT.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: MR. GARCIA. >> COUNCILMAN ALBUS: THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT I AM SAMUEL

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ONE, IT IS VERY DISTURBING TO ME THE OTHER DAYS. THE LAST MEETING I CAME TO A WEEK OR TWO AGO. THINGS ARE GETTING VERY EMOTIONAL IN HERE.

AND I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN GENTRY WAS RUNNING THE MEETING. AND THERE WAS A BIT OF AN OUTBURST FROM SOMEONE. AND AS HE IS SUPPOSED TO DO, HE IS SUPPOSED TO CALL HIM DOWN.

BUT WHAT BOTHERED ME ABOUT THAT WAS THIS IS APPLING, IS WHAT HE SAID.

AND HE SAID WE DON'T DO THAT, THIS IS APPLING. WHICH IS LIKE, FIND.

THE GENTLEMAN WAS OUT OF LINE, AND THAT IT WAS NOT A FEW MINUTES LATER.

THE ENTIRE GROUP, A GIGANTIC GROUP THAT APPENDED A STANDING OVATION.

CLAPPING AND WHOOPING AND DEVELOP THAT AND NOT A WORD WAS SAID.

SO I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF OUTBURST YOU DO. YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

THESE ARE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING THEM YOU NEED TO RUN THEM FAIRLY, EQUALLY. I DID NOT HEAR ONE WORD. THEY LITERALLY STOOD UP AND WERE CLAPPING AND GOING ON AND NOBODY SAID THIS IS APPLING. SO I GUESS SOME KIND OF OUTBURST ARE OKAY AND SOME KIND ARE NOT. DEPENDING ON YOUR OPINION OF THE OUTBURST.

BE CLEAR ON THAT AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. BECAUSE WE ARE ALL TAXPAYERS.

FOR TAXPAYERS IN THE CITY OF ABILENE. AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHEN WE COME TO THESE MEETINGS WE WILL BE TREATED EQUALLY REGARDLESS OF WHAT IF YOU THINK OF THE OPINIONS WE PRESENT APPUPH= . OPINIONS WE PRESENT APPUPH= E. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS AN ONGOING THING HERE. ANYBODY WHO BELIEVES THAT, AND I BELIEVE I HAVE HAD COUNCILMAN HURT SAY IN THE PAST. THERE IS NO SPECIAL THING GOING ON WITH DOWNTOWN. AS FAR AS WE TO THE ENTIRE CITY BUSINESS EQUALLY.

WE ARE NOT DOING MORE FOR DOWNTOWN THAN ANYWHERE ELSE. WHILE I SURE DON'T BELIEVE THAT ONE. ONE HERE MORE TOURISM MONEY FOR MORE DECORATIONS.

WHAT I SAID I LITERALLY HAD TO CALL THE CITY MANAGER THIS WEEK, OR EMAIL.

ABOUT A HUGE ONGOING HOMELESS PROGRAM ON NORTH FIRST. ABOUT A MONTH AGO I ALMOST LITERALLY WITNESSED A GUY WITH A MACHETE GO AFTER INTO THE GUY. LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO THAT BUSINESS. I DO BUSINESS WITH THAT BUSINESS IT IS A MECHANICS SHOP.

WHEN I WENT IN THERE, THE FIRST THING HE ASKED ME ABOUT. YOU SAID SAMMY, WHO WERE TALKED ABOUT THIS HOMELESS ISSUE. I LITERALLY HAVE TO DO WITH IT EVERYDAY.

AND I TOLD HIM ABOUT THINGS IT IS THAT I REMEMBER THAT. SO I GUARANTEE YOU, SOMEBODY WITH THAT MACHETE WOULD HAVE COME AROUND DOWNTOWN. YOU HAVE PEOPLE ARRESTED PEOPLE ON SCOOTERS AND YOU WENT ON AN UPPER. GIVE US THE SAME TREATMENT IN BUSINESS THROUGH THE CITY AS YOU ARE GIVING THE ATTENTION TO DOWNTOWN.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: WE ARE STILL IN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? I FEEL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. MR. SMITH, ABOUT TO ADDRESS A FACTUAL FIVE YEARS AGO. FIVE YEARS AGO THE CITY COUNCIL INSTITUTED A MORNING AND EVENING READING. I WAS A PROPONENT OF THE EVENING MEETINGS.

AFTER A FEW YEARS THERE WERE VERY LOW PARTICIPATION IN THE EVENING MEETINGS.

THE COUNCIL THEN WENT BACK TO JUST A MORNING MEETING SCHEDULE ONLY.

WITH THE CAPACITY TO REVERT BACK TO AN EVENING MEETING IF THERE WAS - IF THE COUNCIL THOUGHT CITIZENS WANTED THAT. SO WE MEET IN THE MORNING AT 8:30 OF THE SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAYS. EXCEPT FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.

BUT WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MODIFY OUR MEETING SCHEDULE. LIKE SO MANY HAVE ALREADY DONE EMAIL US AND LET US GRADES THAT. IN THIS COUNSEL AS WELL AS FUTURE COUNCILS CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. WITH THAT SAID. ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS.

ITEMS TWO TO 13. I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM ITEMS 11 AND ITEM 12.

BUT SO MOVED. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER HURT.

QUICK SECONDS. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: SAID CAN BY COUNCILMEMBER CRAVER, IS ANY

DISCUSSION? SPEED A ALSO TO ABSTAIN 11 AND 12. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: DULY NOTED.

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>> ANDY TIPTON 11 AD. IN MOTION IS SECONDED. WE ARE READY TO VOTE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM HURT? >> YES. >> MCALLISTER?

>> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER PRICE? >> YES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER B ARE TO? >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER PRO TEM

[14. (Remove from Table) Ordinance (Final Reading) Z-2022-14: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on A Request From Weatherbee Construction Represented By Jacob & Martin To Amend The Terms And Conditions Of Planned Development District Number 104 Specifically Rezone approximate 14.34 acres currently Residential Medium Density to create and add tract 6 of Planned Development District (PD-104) and modifying PD-104 to add and allow 50' wide residential lots as a permitted use within all tracts, save and except, Lot 1, Block A (MF), Trails of Abilene Addition. (Tim Littlejohn)]

HANNAH? >> YES. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS?

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: YES. WE MOVED TO 14 AND WE TAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FROM THE TABLE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER PRICE BY COUNCILMEMBER BEARD. ANY DISCUSSION WE ARE READY TO VOTE.

>> CUSTOMER PRICE? WHAT YES. >> BECAUSE MEMBER.? WHAT JUST. >> DEPUTY PRO TEM ELVIS?

>> YES. >> BECAUSE MEMBER MCALLISTER? >> YES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER GRAVER? >> YES. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS?

>> YES. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: WILL ASK HONORABLE TO PRESENT THIS ITEM.

>> FOR CONSIDERATION THIS MORNING. LET ME SEE HERE.

THERE WE GO. UP FOR CONSIDERATION IS 2022.14 THE AMENDMENT OF PD 104.

THE OWNER IS WEATHERBY CONSTRUCTION, JACOB AND MARTIN. THE REQUEST FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THIS MORNING IS ADDING 14.34 ACRES WHICH IS WHAT WE CALL TRACK SIX.

WHICH IS CURRENTLY ZONED MEDIUM DENSITY INTO PD ONE OF OUR. AND ALLOW FOR ALL DISTRICTS 455100 LOTS. AND THAT WOULD BE 1-SIX. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CURRENT LOT BLOCK A WHICH IS NOW MULTIFAMILY. HERE IS A LOCATION MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. HERE IS THE CURRENT ZONING. AS YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED ADDITION OF TRACT SIX. PEERS ALLOWABLE USES IN ZONE SIX.

OFFICE, RESIDENTIAL, MULT MULTIFAMILY, HERE ARE SOME VIEWS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

NOTIFICATION AREA MAP WAS 0 IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED. HERE IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT GOES UNDER THE REQUEST SHOWING THE DIFFERENT TRACTS, AND EACH TRACTS WITH THE ALLOWABLE 50 X 100 LOTS. AND THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COPPERHEADS A PLAN REGARDING ZONING AND LAND USES. ACCEPTED PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND BASIC CRITERIA FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. P&DIS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR YOU THIS MORNING I WOULD BE

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING?

THANK YOU FOR WORKING AND GETTING THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN. >> YES, SIR.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? >> WE ARE ONLY VOTING ON TRACT

SIX? >> THE TRACT SIX THE ALLOWABLE 50 X 100 LOTS WITHIN THE OTHER

TRACKS. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IF SO COME FORTH, GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

>> GOOD MORNING IT IS A PD THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE 2006.

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>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: ANY QUE QUESTIONS:THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HE WOULD

LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? >> MR. DOUG OFFERMAN FILLED OUT

HIS CARD AND LISTED NUMBER 14. AT THE I SAW HIM WALK OUT. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THANK YOU, CALCIUM MEMBER. IS ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SAYING NONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. COUNSEL IS THERE ANY COMMENTS?

IF NOT MOTION AND A SECOND. >> OF MOVED. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER PRICE A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER BEARD ANY DISCUSSION WE ARE READY TO

VOTE. >> CUSTOMER PRICE? WHAT JUST. >> BECAUSE MEMBER WE ARE? WHAT

YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER PRO TEM.? >> YES.

>> COUNCILMEMBER MCALLISTER IS ABSTAINING. COUNCILMEMBER GRAVER?

[15. Resolutions: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Approving the Parental Responsibility Policy for the Abilene Public Library, Approving Amendments to the Library Advisory Board, and Discussion on Changes Recomended by Library Staff (Robert Hanna)]

>> YES. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS? >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: YES.

A COMMENC A COMMENA COMMENT WAS MADE COMMENTCOMMENT WAS MADE JUST ABOUT THIS IS ABILENE.

SO LET ME HELP DEFINE WHAT IS MEANT IN REGARDS TO THIS IS ABILENE.

THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EMOTIONALLY CHARGED ITEM AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS, IF YOU THINK THEY WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND.

DECORUM AND ETIQUETTE IS IMPORTANT. EACH ONE OF YOU WILL GET THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. YOU ARE SPEAKING TO US AND NOT TO THE AUDIENCE.

SO ADDRESS US AND ON THE AUDIENCE. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU HEAR SOMETHING THAT PROVIDES OF ADDITION OR VALIDATION TO NOT CLO CLAP. BUT RATHER ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ATTENTION TO WHAT IS BEING COMMUNICATED AND ARTICULATED. WE WILL MAKE A DECISION TODAY AND WE WILL DO SO FOR THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY IN TERMS OF INTERPRETING WHAT IS THE BEST TO DO. AND WE DO THIS DIFFERENTLY. I WANT RESPECTFUL IN THIS

CHAMBER OF OUR NEIGHBORS. UNDERSTOOD? >> OF LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT INCIDENT FROM LAST WEEK. THE OUTBURST WAS WHILE SOMEONE WAS SPEAKING THE APPLAUSE WAS AFTER THE PERSON FINISHED SPEAKING WHILE A PERSON WAS LEAVING.

IS NOT EXACTLY APPLES TO APPLES. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: AGAIN, EACH WHAT IF YOU CAN SPEAK THREE MINUTES PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL. WHEN THE TIMER GOES OFF WANT YOU TO THEN CUT OFF YOUR COMMENTS RESPECTFUL OF THOSE WHO WILL FOLLOW YOU. SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL NOT TO THE AUDIENCE. I APPRECIATE NOAH PAUSING, STAMPEDING OR ANYWAYS GOING ON.

BUT RATHER INTENT ON WHAT IS BEING COMMUNICATED. WITH THAT I WILL SEND IT OVER TO

ROBERT HANNA OUR CITY MANAGER. >> CITY MANAGER HANNA: THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WANT TO START WITH JUST THE AGENT MEMO THAT I WILL GO INTO THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION OF IT.

I WILL JUST READ FROM IT, MAYOR. THIS IS UNUSUAL TO DO BUT WHAT EVERYBODY TO HEAR.

AS YOU INDICATED THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN HEARING NOW FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.

AND IT IS AN EMOTIONALLY CHARGED DISCUSSION. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS IMPORTANT JUST TO HEAR WHAT IS OING ON. SO THE CITY OF ABILENE HAS ENDEAVORED TO LISTEN TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

WHO ARE ASKING FOR SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO HAVE ABILENE PUBLIC LIBRARY HAS HISTORICALLY OPERATED. TO THAT END THIS ITEM IS AN EFFORT TO ACCOMPLISH TWO THINGS.

FIRST, THE CITY HAS ADOPTED POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO PROVIDE ANY LIBRARY PATRON THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST THE ABILENE PUBLIC LIBRARY WE CONSIDER MATERIALS IN ITS COLLECTION. THIS PROCESS IS RATED TO IMMEDIATELY REMOVE A BOOK FROM CIRCULATION ONCE THAT RECONSIDERATION REQUEST HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.

THE PROCESS INVOLVES ELABORATE ADVISORY BOARD REVIEWING THE BOOK AND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY MANAGER LIBRARY ADMINISTRATION. ON WHETHER OR NOT THE BOOK SHOULD REMAIN IN THE LIBRARY'S COLLECTION. WHILE THE CITY MANAGER WILL THOUGHTFULLY CONSIDER THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARDS RECOMMENDATION HE IS NOT BOUND BY IT. AND ITS FINAL DETERMINATION ON WHETHER THE BOOK REMAINS IN THE COLLECTION. THE CITY HAS CONSISTENTLY INFORMED THE GROUP OF CITIZENS OF THE PROCESS IS AVAILABLE TO THEM. AND INDEED, THE BOOK WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE PAST FEW MONTHS IS IN THE PROCESS OF RECONSIDERATION NOW.

AND I JUST WANT TO URGE ANY PATRON, IT IS CITIZEN OR MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.

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THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS ARE GOOD CONCERNS.

NO ONE ON THE COUNCIL I HAVE HEARD HAS DISMISSED THE CONCERNS, NEW STAFF MEMBER HAS DISMISSED THOSE CONCERNS. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS POLICY IS THERE.

IS APPOINTED FOR THE CITY TO PROVIDE DUE PROCESS. AND THIS POLICY PROVIDES A DUE PROCESS WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THE CONCERNS THAT CITIZENS RAISE.

SECOND, THIS ITEM WILL ALLOW THE CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT AND INVOLVEMENT IN THE PROCUREMENT OF LIBRARY MATERIALS.

SO THAT CITIZENS CAN SUPPORT OR CONTEST THE LIBRARY MATERIALS BEFORE THEY ARE PURCHASED.

AND I SHOULD ADD, AND IT WILL GET TO THIS IN THE RESOLUTION PART.

RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM A CITIZEN WHO SAID DOES THIS INCLUDE DONATED MATERIALS, TOO? IN MY INTENT WOULD BE YES. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN THE THAT TALKS ABOUT NOT JUST PURCHASE MATERIALS. BUT ANY ADDITION TO LIBRARY MATERIALS WOULD GO THROUGH THIS PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS. FINALLY, THIS ITEM WILL SERVE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AND FROM THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT ADDITIONAL MEASURES ARE BEING TAKEN TO BETTER INFORM OUR PEERS. TO DETERMINE WHICH LIBRARY MATERIALS THEIR CHILDREN MAY ACCESS. FINALLY, UNDER SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS IN THE MEMO.

I CALL OUT THE FACT THE LABOR REPORT IS A VERY RECOMMENDING ONLY AND THE CITY STAFF CAN ADDRESS IF IT NEEDS TO. NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION IN PUBLIC HEARING. SELF RIGHT THE AGENDA SO THEY DO ON THESE LIBRARY REVIEW PROCESS.

BUT IT IS REALLY UP TO THE LIVE REPORT. OF THE COUNCIL WHAT HAVE LANGUAGE THAT REQUIRES THEM TO PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT PROCESS THEY SHOULD SAY SO IN THE RESOLUTION. OKAY. WE RECEIVED THROUGH THE DIALOGUE WE'VE HAD WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE RECEIVED A WRITTEN REQUEST THESE ARE THE ITEMS WE WANT TO ADDRESS. SO I WILL READ THESE. THE FORMAL BOOK REVIEW OF CITIZENS MEMBERS WHOSE PERSONAL OUTLOOK AND IDEALS REFLECT THE AGENDA OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

THE REVIEW COMMITTEE WILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REVIEW AND SUPERVISE THE SELECTION OF LIBRARY MATERIALS BEFORE PURCHASE ACCEPTANCE BY THE APO. AND DEVELOP LEGAL STANDARDS IN THE FEDERAL FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH. THE CIVIL BROUGHT A PARENTAL LIVES, THE TEXAS PENAL CODE, CHILD ENDANGERMENT LAWS, AND THE AGE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE MATERIALS TO WHICH MINORS MAY BE EXPOSED. THE REVIEW COMMITTEE SHALL PREVENT SPENDING MONEY ON OBSCENITY AND PORNOGRAPHY. ONLY THE ACCEPTANCE OF MATERIALS THAT ARE NOT OFFENSIVE TO THE CONSERVATIVE MORALS AND VALUES OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE ABILENE TAXPAYERS. SPECIFICALLY DO NOT PROMOTE THE SEXUALIZATION OF MINORS OR

ADOPTION OF ANY SEXUAL ACTIVITY OUTSIDE OF TRADITIONAL AVERAGE. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: MR. HANNA, .

THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE BEING ASKED.

THIS IS WHAT THE CITY IS BEING ASKED. >> YOU SAID THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. THIS IS WHAT THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD IS A.

THIS IS WHAT CITIZENS REQUESTED. >> CITY MANAGER HANNA: THIS IS WHAT CITIZENS ARE REQUESTING, THAT IS RIGHT. NUMBER TWO TO REMOVE ALL SEXUAL COTTAGE FROM THE SECTION OF THE LIBRARY THAT CAN BE ACCESSED BY MINORS FROM LIBRARY SPONSORED PROGRAMS. MINORS CAN'T ACCESS. HOOPLA, 'S ONLINE CONTENT THERE IS ALSO ONE CALLED OVERDRIVE THEY DO SIMILAR THINGS BUT E-BOOKS AND MUSIC AND THAT SORT OF STUFF ARE HANDLED THROUGH HOOPLA AND OVERDRIVE. IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ALL PORNOGRAPHIC THROUGH THE PENAL CODE SUBSECTION 20.1. THE PRESENT MAKES THE APL FOR PORNOGRAPHIC TO MINORS ACCORDING TO TEXAS PENAL CODE 43.2 FOR. ADOPT LIBRARY POLICIES THAT DENY ACCESS TO SEXUALLY ORIENTED MATERIALS TO MINORS. THE APL IS NO CHANCE FOR DRAG QUEEN STORY HOURS.

MINOR SHOULD ONLY HAVE ACCESS TO ANY VIRTUAL EVENT IF ACCOMPANIED BY A. WORK GUARDIAN.

ENSURE THAT LIBRARY STAFF IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PLACEMENT OF ADULT MATERIALS PRESENT IN THE LIBRARY. 0-TOLERANCE STANDARDS SHOULD APPLY TO PERSONAL WHO REFUSED TO HAVE ABILENE STANDARDS THAT SEXUALIZE MINORS. TO DO THE EMPHASIS HOW IT PLACES ON PROTECTING HIS CHILDREN FROM SUCH DRAMATIC AND HARMFUL RECRUITMENT TECHNIQUES.

ONLY PERSONNEL WILLING TO PROTECT MINORS CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR HIGHER.

MOVE ALL SEXUALLY ORIENTED TO A SECTION LABELED SEXUALITY WHICH IS LOCATED AWAY FROM THE SECTION OF THE LIBRARY FOR MINORS. SO D TO SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY.

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THAT WE HAVE BEEN INFORMED WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. AND DID A MANNER THAT RECOGNIZES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE POLICYMAKING AND GOVERNING BODY OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEY ARE APPOINTING A LIBRARY BOARD. WE HAVE A BOARD ALREADY FOR THE LIBRARY THAT CAN HANDLE SOME OF THESE THINGS. WE WILL START WITH SOME STAFFING ISSUES CHANGES. LIMITED ACCESS LIBRARY CARDS. STUFF IS IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING LIMITED ACCESS JUVENILE LIBRARY CARDS WERE BY A PARENT OR GUARDIAN CAN AFFIRMATIVELY CHOOSE TO LIMIT OR RESTRICT THEIR CHILD'S LIBRARY CARD. TO ONLY ALLOW CHECKOUT FOR JUVENILE MATERIALS. THAT I AM APPARENT AND I AM SIGNING UP MY MINOR FOR A LIBRARY CARD. THERE WILL BE A BOX THAT SAYS DO YOU WANT TO LIMIT YOUR CHILD'S ABILITY TO CHECK OUT LIBRARY MATERIALS THAT ARE LIMITED TO JUVENILE MATERIALS? IF YOU CHOOSE THAT BOX YOUR CHILD WILL GET A JUVENILE LIBRARY CARD THAT LIMITS THEM TO THOSE BOOKS ONLY.

THIS IS A BROAD STATEMENT. IT COULD BE WE CAN NARROW THAT DOWN FURTHER.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THIS NOW WITH OUR LIBRARY CONSORTIUM PARTNERS.

AND IF WE CAN PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY IN LACQUERING IT DOWN FURTHER I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. THE POINT IS TO EMPOWER PARENTS IS A THESE ARE THE BOOKS MY CHILDREN ARE ABLE TO CHECK OUT. THESE BOOKS IN THIS CATEGORY. WHAT IT DOES NOT DO IS PREVENT THE CHILD FROM WANDERING THE LIBRARY AND FIND BOOKS THEY MIGHT FIND ON THE SHELVES.

IN THE ADULT SECTION, RIGHT? WHICH IS WHAT THE PARENTAL POLICY IS HERE.

PARTICULARS SUPPORTED IF YOU HAVE A CHILD UNDER A NEED TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY A CHILD.

THAT AGE WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE IT IS REFLECTED IN OUR CURRENT SEE CHILD POLICY.

WAS ESSENTIALLY THE PARENT POLICY. THE SAFE CHILD POLICY IS A.

. AND HONESTLY I DON'T THINK IT IS NOT HELPFUL FOR ANYBODY.

WHICH IS WHAT WE EXPANDED IT BECAUSE OF THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY POLICY.

IT ESSENTIALLY ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME THING JUST HAS A DIFFERENT TITLE.

FAR MORE DESCRIPTIVE THAN THE PARENTAL POLICY IS UNDER THE RECOMMENDED POLICY CHANGES.

OKAY, CARD CATALOG UPGRADES. STAFF IS IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH OUR CARD CATALOG VENDOR. THIS IS PART OF THE CONSORTIUM AGAIN. TO PROVIDE USER ELECTABLE SEARCH FILTERS THE LAW A MINOR OR PARENT TO EASILY NARROW THEIR SEARCH TO ONLY JUVENILE MATERIALS AVAILABLE AT THE ABILENE PUBLIC LIBRARY. THIS WOULD APPLY TRADITIONAL LIBRARY MATERIALS. AS WELL AS ELECTRIC MATERIALS ON HOOPLA AND OV OVERDRIVE.

AND AN ADDITIONAL KIDS CATALOG. THERESA THE BRIGHTLY COLORED THAT SAYS KIDS COME HERE. IT WOULD BE A KIDS ONLY CATALOG. IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC TO CHILDREN, ONLY. WHICH IS THE COULD ALSO BE HELPFUL. MAYBE IT IS A CATALOG IN THE CHILDREN'S SECTION. MAYBE HAVE THE OPTION SHE GO UP TO ONE OF THE OTHER CARD CATALOGS OF THE LIBRARY. THE POINT IS WE WANT TO PROVIDE FILTERABLE CATALOG SEARCH. AND CHILDREN SPECIFIC CONTENT. THOSE ARE STAFF RECOMMENDED CHANGES THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. THAT ARE HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK. IN THE PROCESS OF DOING ALL THESE THINGS. WE ALSO HAVE BEFORE YOU OF RESOLUTION THAT RE-CREATES THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. PART OF THAT RESOLUTION ENCOMPASSES A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, THE LIBRARY BOARD SERVICES AT ADVISORY CAPACITY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND VIBRATE MENSTRUATION.

IT SERVES AS AN ADVISORY FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING. SO THE ADVISORY WHAT IS IT LOOK LIKE? THE COUNCIL ASKED TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE SO WE CAN EMPOWER THEM TO PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE. PROVIDE AN OPINION AND GUIDED REQUEST.

AS REQUESTED FOR SPECIAL ISSUES, CAPITAL PROJECTS, EVERY FACILITY NEEDS.

PROVIDE AN OPINION, THIS IS NEW. PROVIDE OPINION AND GUIDANCE ON THE PURCHASE OF LIBRARY MATERIALS. AT I WOULD ALSO ADD THE ACCEPTANCE OF DONATED CEREALS VIBRATE MENSTRUATION.

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I HAVE BEEN TOLD THROUGH SEVERAL EMAIL CONSIDERATIONS THAT MORE BOOKS WOULD BE RECONSIDERED.

AND THAT A GROUP OF CITIZENS ARE WORKING ON THOSE BOOKS. I REALLY WELCOME THAT.

I WELCOME THE USE OF THAT PROCESS. IT PROVIDES TO DUE PROCESS TO REVIEW THE BOOK AND PROVIDE THE PROCESS OF CREATED. TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS CITIZENS HAVE RAISED. I JUST WANT TO SAY I ENCOURAGE ANY PATRON WHO OBJECTS THE INCLUSION OF ANY BOOK IN THE LIBRARY TO VISIT WITH THE LIBRARY.

THEN USE THE RECONSIDERATION PROCESS IF THEY FEEL THE NEED TO ADDRESS IT FURTHER.

IF YOU GO TO THE CITY OF ABILENE'S WEBSITE, IF YOU GO TO THE BALLOT BUTTON THERE ARE RULES AND PROCEDURES. THERE IS A WAY TO SUBMIT ONLINE A RECONSIDERATION REQUEST FORM.

OR YOU COULD DOWNLOAD IT BY HAND OR SUBMIT IT TO A LIBRARY AND. TO A LIBRARY IAN, ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE RECONSIDERATION PROGRAM AND THEN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS WAS TAKEN AUGUST 1ST AND IT EXPANDS ON THE EXISTING SAFE CHILD POLICY.

AND YOU COULD READ THAT DOWN BELOW. IT BASICALLY SAYS WE WANT TO GET THE LIBRARY SAY BECAUSE OF CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF EIGHT SPEAK COMMITTEE BY AN ADULT.

CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 15 MUST BE COLLECTED BY A RESPONSIBLE FAMILY MEMBER AGE 16 OR OLDER. AT CLOSING IF NOBODY IS THERE TO PICK THEM UP WILL CONTACT APD TO TAKE THE CHILD AND CARE FOR THEM UNDER THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW.

THE RESTATED POLICY IS THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY POLICY. AND WE STATE SPECIFICALLY THAT THE LIBRARY IS DESIGNED TO SERVE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN WITH A WIDE RANGE OF EDUCATIONAL AND RECREATIONAL COLLECTIONS PROGRAMS AND SERVICES. ABILENE PUBLIC LIBRARY SUPPORTS PARENTS AND GUARDIANS TO REVIEW THEIR CHILDREN'S LISTENING. THE PURPOSE OF THIS POLICY IS TO PROVIDE THE RESPONSIBILITIES REGARDING THEIR USE OF THE LIBRARY.

PARENTS AND LEGAL GUARDIANS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CHILDREN'S BEHAVIOR, SAFETY AND WELFARE WHILE THE CHILDREN ARE IN THE LIBRARY OR ON LIBRARY GROUNDS. WHICH INCLUDES THEIR CHILDREN'S ACCESS TO LIBRARY MATERIALS AND ELECTRONIC SOURCES. THE LIBRARY REQUIRES A PART OR LEGAL GUARDIAN OR OTHER RESPONSIBLE PARTY ACCOMPANY DIRECTLY SUPERVISED CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF THE. LIBRARY STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ASSIST PARENTS.

LEGAL GUARDIANS AND THEIR CHILDREN IN THE USE OF THE LIBRARY.

HOWEVER, STAFF CANNOT ACT IN LOCAL PERMITS OR IN PLACE OF THE PERIOD FOR CHILDREN IN THE LIBRARY. IF YOUR CHILD OR TEEN IS ACTING IN AN UNSAFE MANNER.

BEHAVING INAPPROPRIATELY APPEARS TO BE IN DISTRESS. STAFF WILL ATTEMPT TO LOCATE THE PARENT OR LEGAL GUARDIAN OR OTHER PARTY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CHILD OR TEEN.

IF CANNOT WE WILL CONTACT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE CHILD OR TEEN MAY BE BANNED FROM THE LIBRARY DEPENDING ON THEIR BEHAVIOR. DRIPPING OUT OF PAGES AND BOOKS.

WHICH WE HAVE NOT HAD, BY THE WAY, THAT IS AN EXTREME EXAMPLE. CHILDREN AND TEEN USING THE RESOURCES OR LIBRARIES EXCEPT FOR GAMES, PUZZLES AND KITS WHICH MAY ONLY BE BORROWED BY PATRONS AGE 18 AND OLDER. THE LIBRARY WILL NOT LIMIT THE SECTION OF BOOKS IN THE CHILDREN'S LIBRARY BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT MEET THE NEEDS AND INTERESTS OF ALL CHILDREN.

IN ADDITION LIBRARY STAFF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DETERMINING WHETHER MATERIALS USED BY CHILDREN OR TEEN ARE AGE-APPROPRIATE. IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PARENTS OR GUARDIANS TO MONITOR THEIR CHILDREN'S LIBRARY RESOURCES AND PLACE RESTRICTIONS.

I WILL SAY WE FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES THAT THE IN MINISTRY BREACH THAT.

THEIR HEADS TO BE MORE DISCUSSION HAD ON THAT. FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THOSE REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITY'S VALUES. THAT IS PART OF THE CONCERNS WE ARE HEARING FROM CITIZENS AND RECOGNIZE THAT. WHICH IS WHY THE POLICY WE HAVE IN PLACE IS RECONSIDERATION. IF IT GETS TO THE COLLECTION, RECONSIDER THE BOOK.

ADDING THE PUBLIC PROCESS TO REVIEW BEFORE LIBRARY MATERIALS ARE WE AT THE COLLECTION.

PROVIDES ANOTHER LEVEL OF SAFEGUARD FOR OUR LIBRARY COLLECTIONS. JOB UNDERSTAND AND MAKE SURE ALL THESE BOOKS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. PARENTS AND GUARDIANS ARE ENCOURAGED TO TALK TO THEIR CHILDREN'S OR TEENS ABOUT THE TYPE OF MATERIALS THEY FEEL ARE CERTIFIED ARE ACCESSIBLE. IF A PARENT OR GUARDIAN WISHES TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ITEMS CHILDREN OR TEEN CAN IF THE PAR CANNOT PICK UP THAT CHILD IN 15 MINUTES OR NOT PICKED UP AFTER

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DID NOT TELL ANYBODY ABOUT IT, THOUGH. DOES THE PROCESS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT IS A PROCESS WE HAVE FOLLOWED. THIS REVISE IT MORE TRANSPARENT BECAUSE IT EXPANDS WHAT IS GOING ON. WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE RECOMMENDED THE POLICY CHANGES. MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: I WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THING AND SET THE STAGE.

I WANT TO ASK STANLEY TO PREPARE YOUR MIND FOR ANYTHING YOU THINK IS DATED THE REQUIRES TO LOCK.

I WANT TO FIRST, JULIE, PLEASE STAND. JULIE, HER STAFF IN THE RESPONSE. WE HAD A MEETING A FEW MONTHS AGO.

JULIE, MR HANNA. MYSELF AND SOME CITIZENS AND OFFERED PASSIONATE. I THINK THAT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.

THE OVERALL AND REACTION. NOT JUST MAKE A MODIFICATION BUT TO DO SO IN A WAY CONSISTENT WITH THIS COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, THEMATICALLY THERE ARE REALLY TWO THINGS THIS ORDINANCE HAS. IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY. IF A BOOK IS IDENTIFIED BY ANY CITIZEN. THAT BOOK IS IMMEDIATELY TAKEN OFF THE SHELF.

IN THE PROCESS IS BEGAN TO MAKE AN EVALUATION OF THAT BOOK. THE CITY MANAGER, WORKING WITH STAFF, THE ADVISORY BOARD. ULTIMATELY HAS TO MAKE THE DECISION ON AYE OR HURT.

HOPEFULLYN. HOPEAY. HOPEFULLY THE COUNCILMEMBER HAS ALL THE OVERSIGHT WE NEED. AND SECONDLY THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS FOUND IN THE 60S MODIFIED IN THE MID-80S. THIS IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATION OF IT SINCE ITS INCEPTION. THE ADVISORY, STILL. BUT LISTENING TO YOU, THE CITIZENS. IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ADVISORY BOARD.

ADDITIONALLY, WHAT I WOULD ASK, MR. HANNAH. AGAIN, THIS IS STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE STAFF ULTIMATELY MAKES OUR DECISION.

WE MAY MAKE MODIFICATIONS. I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF WE ALLOW CITIZENS.

THE PUBLIC MEETING IS HAD, IN REGARDS TO MATERIALS, IS TO BE A PUBLIC MEETING.

CITIZENS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT. ADDITIONALLY, I THINK IN THAT MODEL ATTORNEYS TO BE A REVIEW PERIOD. AND I AM NOT SURE 30 DAYS OR SIX WEEKS. BUT EVERY FEW PERIOD OF THOSE TITLES TO GIVE CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YEA OR NAY. OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK BEFORE US IS A APPROPRIATE RESPONSE.

AND THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT IT CAN BE MODIFIED AND CHANGED SOMEWHAT WE HAVE NOW.

BASED ON LEGAL STANDING, WE'VE HEARD FROM YOU. I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE.

AND I WILL SAY THIS. THERE IS NOT AN AGENDA. OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY OR THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO SEXUALIZE OUR CHILDREN. THAT IS INCORRECT.

AND I WILL SAY THIS PUBLICLY. THE ONE TITLE THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT THE MOST THAT HAS MATERIAL THAT OFFENDS ME. THAT IS PULLED, AND IT SHOULD BE PULLED.

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COULD IT BE BETTER? YES. WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS ATTEMPT TO BE BETTER.

SO WITH A MODIFICATION OF REVIEW PERIOD. AND I THINK THAT IS TO BE A PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROCESS. THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE.

IN THE WAY THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD WORK. WITH THAT, STANLEY, ANYTHING YOU

WANT TO INTERJECT? >> CITY ATTORNEY STANLEY SMITH: THERE WAS A QUESTION, EDITED YOU TOUCH ON IT THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. IN THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD IS BY HEARING. UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE ADVISORY THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

BUT IF THE COUNCIL WAS TO HAVE THAT TO THE RESOLUTION THAT THE ADVISORY BOARD IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT. FOR THESE ISSUES OF PROCUREMENT. YOU CAN ADD TO PUT THAT IN

THERE. YOUR PURVIEW TO DO THAT. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: ANY QUESTION

FROM COUNSEL? >> I HAVE A COMMENT. PREDICATE (A ABOUT THIS.

THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONABLE ACTS OF WITHOUT WANT MY GRANDCHILDREN TO LOOK AT IT.

WE ARE IMPLEMENTING THE PROCESS TO REVIEW. I AM CONCERNED ON THE ATTACKS BY THE LIBRARY STAFF ITSELF. OUR STAFF IS VERY DILIGENT AND VERY HARD-WORKING.

WE DO NOT SET THE POLICIES, THEY DO NOT GET TO CHANGE THE POLICIES.

IT IS UNNECESSARY FOR THE STAFF. THEY WORK FOR ALL CITIZENS. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: COUNCILMAN

BEARD? >> COUNCILMAN BEARD: TO ECHO THE MAYOR'S COMMENT ABOUT BEING PUBLIC PROCESS IN THE REVIEW MATERIALS. AND WHAT IS NEEDED.

I HAVE HEARD THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT AT A PREVIOUS MEETING BEING CHARACTERIZED AS THE GOVERNMENT SIDESTEPPING OUR ABILITY TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN. AS I READ THROUGH THIS.

I WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, UP UNTIL TODAY, BECAUSE OF THE METHODS THAT WERE IMPLEMENTED TO PROTEST. WE WERE NEVER GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDESS IT BY PEOPLE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS UNTIL THAT ONE MEETING OF THE SOUTH BRANCH LIBRARY. WHEN WE KIND OF GOT AMBUSHED BY ALL OF THIS.

AND I FEEL CONFIDENT HAVE THAT PROCESS BEEN FOLLOWED THEN. COULD BE IN THE EXACT SAME POSITION WE ARE IN TODAY WE ARE HAVING LEGITIMATE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED. WITHOUT ALL THE DIVISIVE RHETORIC.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN THERE. THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT, THE GRANT TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE CHARACTERIZE THAT. IT IS NOT A SIDESTEPPING OF RESPONSIBILITY. I WELCOME, MR HANNA, . YOUR OPINION HERE.

THE ALTERNATIVE TO PLACING THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY OVER WHAT CHILDREN LEAD IN THE HANDS OF PARENTS IS THE GOVERNMENT MONITORING WHAT PEOPLE READ IN THE LIBRARY.

AND I WILL NOT SUPPORT THAT. I THINK THE PARENTS ARE THE SOLE AUTHORITY IN DECIDING YOUR CHILDREN, WHAT THEIR CHILDREN. I AM A PARENT I KNOW WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL TELLING ME WHAT MY KIDS CAN AND CAN'T READ. THAT IS MY CHOICE AS A FATHER. HOWEVER, I DO SUPPORT AND AGREE WITH SOME OF THESE CHANGES WE ARE TALKING ON. I THINK PUBLIC INPUT IS HEALTHY GIVES OUR COMMUNITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO STEP FORWARD AND SAY I DO NOT THINK THESE ARE APPROPRIATE FOR OUR LIBRARY. IN THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY, WHEN YOU GET THROUGH ALL OF THAT PROCESS IS WITH US. THAT PROCESS STILL EXISTS. I GENUINELY APPRECIATE THE STAFF BOTH SIDES. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF BACK-AND-FORTH ON THIS.

WE'VE ARRIVED AT A PLACE THAT IS GOOD WE HAVE ADDED LAERS OF PROTECTION THROUGH RESTRICTED ACCESS LIBRARY CARD. I THINK THAT IS HEALTHY. WE ARE ADDING ELECTRONIC SEARCH THAT IS HEALTHY. THE KIDS ONLY CATALOG IS APPROPRIATE.

AND HEALTHY. I APPRECIATE THE LIBRARY STAFF, THE CONSORTIUM IF YOU HAS WORK TOGETHER TO GET TO THIS PLACE. IN OUR SOCIETY OR FREE SPEECH, WE CANNOT GUARANTEE YOU WILL NOT

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>> THE ONE BOOK THAT IS IN QUESTION I AGREE. IT IS NOT NEED TO BE ENABLING PUBLIC LIBRARY. AND THERE IS A PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND REVIEWED. AND THAT IS THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE.

THAT IS THE PROCESS WE NEED TO CONTINUE. I DO NOT KNOW HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT. I CANNOT SPEAK TO ANYBODY BUT ME.

BUT I DO THINK I SPOKE TO A LOT OF. I DO NOT NEED THE GOVERNMENT TO TELL ME WHAT MY RESPONSIBILITIES ARE WITH MY KIDS. I DID NOT NEED A PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY TO TOBY I NEED TO BE IN CHARGE OF MY KIDS. BUT APPARENTLY SOME DO AND THAT IS FINE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS MORNING.

THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY KIDS FALLS WITH ME. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT MY MOM AND OLDER GENERATION DID NOT NEED A PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY POLICY FROM THE WACO OR ARLINGTON PUBLIC LIBRARY TO MAKE SURE MY BROTHER AND I STAYED IN LINE. I KNOW NOT THINK WE DID IT BECAUSE I THINK PARENTS SHOULD HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE KEEP SAYING. PARENTS WANT TO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE ABILITY TO DETERMINE WHEN THEIR KIDS SEE, AND IF THESE KIDS SEE THESE MATERIALS.

FINE, I AGREE. BUT THEN THIS POLICY BASICALLY SAYS THAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. I FOR THAT. STANLEY, I DO HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION. I WILL GO BACK TO WHAT MR. HANNAH MENTIONED IN THE FIRST PART. MY MO DID NOT NEED HIS THAT MOVED ALL SEXUALLY TO A AREA LABELED SEXUALITY LABELED AWAY FROM MINORS. THAT IS ONE OF THE REQUESTS.

WALK ME THROUGH THAT PROCESS, OR WE EVEN ALLOWED TO DO THAT? ARE WE ALLOWED TO TAKE BOOKS AND

SEGMENT THEM LIKE THAT? >> CITY ATTORNEY STANLEY SMITH: THE CASE LAW I HAVE SEEN HAS CALLED THAT INTO QUESTION. IN CASES WHERE BOOKS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO SEPARATE CATEGORIES.

THAT THEY ARE NOT ORIGINALLY IN ARE IN A SPECIAL CATEGORY. THAT IS SUSPECT THAT MIGHT BE

ILLEGAL. >> AND THE DANGER THERE PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE SLIPPERY SLOPE. NEXT WEEK SOMEONE WANTS ALL THE CHRISTIAN BOOKS PLACED OVER HERE AND IN THESE BOOKS, THESE BOOKS. ABOUT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IF YOU GO DOWN THAT PATH.

AND IT IS OPEN TO EVERYBODY. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS BEFORE WE SEND IT TO

COUNSEL? >> . >> CITY MANAGER HANNA: THIS IS NOT JUST A PERIOD OF DISCUSSION FROM THE CITY SIDE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING WE IMPLEMENT CHANGES IN THIS. BUT THIS PROCESS IS - AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HOLD DEAR IS CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. AS WE GO THROUGH THIS TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY.

IF THERE ARE CLEARLY THINGS ARE NOT WORKING WITH THE PROCESS. THOSE THINGS WOULD BE TWEAKED AND ADDRESSED SO WE PROVIDE A SMOOTH OPPORTUNITY FOR OPPORTUNITY AND INPUT.

AFTER TWO AVOID THE CULTURAL WERE ON THIS AND FOCUS ON WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THE LAW.

AND MY COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY ON ALL SIDES OF THIS ARGUMENT IS THAT PUBLIC INPUT IS GOOD. IT IS WHAT OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN FOUNDED ON.

THE RIGHT OF THE CITIZENS TO GOVERN THEMSELVES. AND WHAT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PROCESS FROM STAFF STANDPOINT THAT ENCOURAGES THE CITIZENS OF OUTPUT VOICE. I THINK THAT IS WHAT WILL TRY TO ACCOMPLISH THROUGH THESE RECOMMENDED POLICY CHANGES.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THE INTERACTION I HAVE HAD WITH THE GROUP HAS BEEN VERY CORDIAL.

AND I KNOW THEIR SINCERITY THERE. THAT YOU HAVE ENGAGED ME.

AND THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. I LOOK AT JULIE AND HER STAFF.

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I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE PERFECT ORDINANCE. BUT IT IS A START.

AND WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE MODIFICATIONS. I THINK THE MODIFICATION OF ADDING OR REQUIRING PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AS WELL AS OUR REVIEW PERIOD.

AND JULIE AND THE STAFF. WE HAVE A QUARTER OF A MILLION BOOKS.

I DO NOT KNOW IS THAT NEEDS TO BE THREE DAYS. OF A LIT CITY AND STAFF.

I THINK THAT BEING MODIFIED. AND WITH THAT I WILL OPEN IT TO PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? WE DO HAVE A FEW

CARDS. >> I WILL TAKE THE CARDS AS WE RECEIVE THEM.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: WE WILL GO IN THE ORDER THAT YOUR PRO TEM HURT READS THOSE.

I WANT TO REITERATE TALK TO US NOT TO CROWD. BE RESPECTFUL.

OF ALAS THE AUDIENCE TO HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE. AND LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS WAS DAVID SCHWARTZ. WHAT THANK YOU, COUNSEL, DAVID SWART.

REGIONAL HOTELS MUST. THE PROBLEM IS, THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS PRETTY POWERFUL.

THERE IS ONE THING YOU MIGHT OBJECT TO IT AND THE OTHER PERSON THINGS IT IS FINE.

THEN YOU START SAYING YOU WANT TO PUT THIS ALL UP ON THE PARENTS.

AND YOU WANT TO HAVE A YOUTH LIBRARY CARD. WHY WOULD YOU NEED THAT IF WE ARE ALL COMPUTERIZED? YOU COULD JUST TAKE THEIR CARD AND PUT THE RESTRICTIONS ON IT.

WHEN YOU START PIGEONHOLING IT YOU CAN SAY YOU ARE UNDER A CERTAIN AGE WHO WILL GIVE YOU THIS CARD. YOU CAN TAKE THE REGULAR CARD AND PUT THE FILTERS ON IT IF YOU NEEDED TO. BUT THE PROBLEM IS IT IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

YOU A NOT LIKE IT. BUT SOME PEOPLE HAVE WHAT THEY LIKE AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T.

IS LIKE THE RELIGION PART OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT. YOU MAY NOT LIKE THAT RELIGION YOU MAY PRACTICE THIS RELIGION. THE PROBLEM IS AS CALCITE YOU START FILTERING.

WE WILL BUT THIS BOOK HERE AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW IT WILL BE THESE BOOKS HERE ABOUT THIS IN THIS. AND YOU WILL DO THAT. IS GOING DOWN A VERY DANGEROUS PATH OF WE START DOING THAT. EVEN THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID WACO TRIED TO DO THAT.

I BELIEVE IS WHAT HE IS SAYING OR WAS IT WICHITA FALLS? AND THEY GOT SUED IN FEDERAL COURT FOR FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATION. I REMEMBER IN THE PREVIOUS COUNSEL MEETING THERE WAS A 14-YEAR-OLD WHO CAME APPEAR AND MENTIONED ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS SHE LIKED.

SHE MENTIONED HER LIBRARY CARD EXPIRING. THAT IS MY ISSUE WITH THE LIBRARY CARDS. I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE MINE EXPIRE.

I TOOK IT OUT 3-FOUR YEARS AGO NOW. ON THE URGING OF ONE OF THE LIBRARIANS PREVIOUSLY I GO TO THE LIBRARY I JUST WANT TO PRINT A DOCUMENT.

BECAUSE THE COMPUTER IS HAVING AT HOME IS PROBABLY AS OLD AS ME.

AND IT RUNS ON XP AND THERE IS A SOFTWARE GLITCH. SO I CANNOT EVEN PRINT ANYTHING OR I WOULD PRINT DOCUMENTS AT HOME. PSYCHOTHERAPY AND I SAY I NEED TO USE A WORKSTATION. AND THEY WOULD LOG ME IN. BUT THE ONE LIBRARIAN SAID GET A CARD IT WOULD BE SO GREAT. I HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS WITH THAT CARD.

EVERY TIME I GET READY TO USE IT IT EXPIRES. IT IS EXPIRED.

IT IS FUNNY THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE GAVE ME A SECURITY CLEARANCE CARD ID THAT WAS GOOD 24/7SEVEN. ANY AIR FORCE BASE ANYWHERE. YET I CANNOT BE ENTRUSTED WITH A LIBRARY CARD THAT IS ONLY GOOD FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME? THERE IS NOWHERE IN THE APPLICATION FROM THE POLICIES THAT SAYS YOUR CARD IS ONLY GOOD FOR A LIMITED TIME.

EXCEPT FOR THREE YEARS LIVING IN CLYDE I PRETTY MUCH A LIFELONG RESIDENT.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: ERIC BEBINGS WHAT MY NAME> MY NA> MY NAME IS CITIZEN OF ABILENE. I HAVE A TWO PAGE PRESENTATION THEY CAN LOOK AT.

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THAT MY KIDS, MY GRANDKIDS CAN WALK IN THERE AND PULL OUT. THAT CONCERNS ME DEEPLY. THE EARTH THINGS ON THAT THEY SHOULD NOT SEE. I KNOW THE ONE BOOK IS BEING LOOKED AT. AT THIS MOMENT I HAVE A RECONSIDERATION FORM IN PROCESS. JULIE CALLED ME ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT WE WILL GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THAT BOOK. BUT THERE IS MORE, LOTS MORE. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THAT STUFF IS PRETTY I CANNOT GO IN AND CROSS REFERENCE SEXUALITY AND CHILDREN'S BOOKS.

THOSE GIRLS GO IN THERE AND THEY START PULLING BOOKS OUT. THAT IS WHERE MY HEART IS. THAT STUFF DOES NOT NEED TO BE SEEN BY CHILDREN. WORK HAS BEEN DONE THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING THE TIME TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AND HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY. BUT I DEEPLY, DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE REST OF THOSE BOOKS THAT ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY AGE-APPROPRIATE BETTER SEXUALIZING OUR CHILDREN BEFORE THEY SHOULD EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STUFF IS ABOUT. OF APPEAR, A IMPRINT THAT IS MY BUSINESS. I ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY. BUT I ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT I KNOW BUT THERE IS STUFF IN THERE I DON'T KNOW. THAT I CAN'T KNOW AT

THIS TIME. THANK YOU. >> BARBARA LYNN SANDERS DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN

OPPOSITION AGAINST THIS POLICY. JACOB CLARK? >> DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, IN

OPPOSITION. >> CARLOS CINONES, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. HE SPEAKS IN SUPPORT BUT THINKS IT LACKS DETAILS. GARY GOMETZ DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK USING OPPOSITION AGAINST THIS ITEM. JOANNA BINKS. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? NO, I APOLOGIZE, MA'AM. IS IN OPPOSITION AGAINST THE LIBRARY POLICY.

LISA STY, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITIES LACKS AIRLINES FOR PARENTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT. CHRIS TURNER? DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK IS OPPOSITION AGAINST THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY POLICY IT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE ISSUES. LINDA BUCKMAN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS AGAINST PARENTAL GUIDANCE, THE NEW PROPOSAL. JOAN BASSON IS NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION AGAINST THIS ITEM. ELIZABETH POWELL.

>> COUNCILMAN ALBUS: GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS ELIZABETH POWELL I FROM ABILENE. I'M NOT AS PREPARED AS THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE WALLACE COVERED HIS PT ALL EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT THINGS LIKE RESPECTING OUR LIBRARIANS AND FREE SPEECH. I AM JUST AS PREPARED AS I HAVE BEEN BECAUSE THERE BEEN A LOT OF THESE MEETINGS. I'M HERE TO SPEAK HOWEVER IN REPRESENTATION OF MANY WHO AGREE WITH ME BUT CAN'T MAKE IT TODAY. NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXIST IN ABILENE. BUT BECAUSE THE SCHEDULE OF THE MORNING MEETINGS MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO JUGGLE WORK AND COME HERE TO SPEAK. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY POLICY. I DO NOT

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WHICH, BY THE WAY, I WOULD CONSIDER AN EXCELLENT BOOK. THIS INCREDIBLY VALUABLE IN THIS BOOK REGARDING CONSENT, HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS, BOUNDARIES, LETTING YOURSELF FOR WHO YOU ARE APOLOGIZING FOR YOUR MISTAKES. THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INFORMATION IN THAT BOOK.

IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR CHILD IS NOT MATURE ENOUGH THE BOOK THAT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE IS APPARENT AND YOU COULD CHOOSE NOT TO READ THE SECTIONS TO YOUR CHILD. SIMILARLY IT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE IS APPARENT TO DECIDE WHERE YOUR CHILD CONSUMES AND LIBRARY. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR CHILDREN MAKE SURE THEY ARE ONLY CONSUMING WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO CONC CONSUME. OUR LIBRARY'S ARE HIGHLY TRAINED, HIGHLY SPECIALIZED BRAND FOR A VALUABLE JOB TO DO IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT JOB DOES NOT INCLUDE KEEPING TRACK OF CHILDREN ARE MAKING SURE THEY ONLY READ SPECIFIC TOPICS.

THIS PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY POLICY NOT ONLY PROTECT LIBRARIANS BY HAVING A CLEARLY DEFINED POLICY WHILE THE LIBRARY WILL TREAT PATIENTS UNDER THE AGE OF 18.

BUT WILL PROTECT PARENTS AND MAKE SURE ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF PEOPLE IN THE LIBRARY ARE CLEARLY LAID OUT. THE LIBRARIANS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR LIBRARY APPEARANCE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CHILDREN. I THINK ALL THIS POLICY COULD DO IS PROTECT OUR CITIZENS AND EMPLOYEES AT A TICKET MUST BE APPROVED.

THANK YOU. >> REBECCA GANGRICH. >> COUNCI

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU AND I HAVE TO TAKE BACK THE LAST SPEAKER.

QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK THAT TAKES A LOT OF GUTS TO COME INTO THIS ROOM AND SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE MAJORITY OF THIS FROM BELIEVE IN. HOWEVER I WILL SUGGEST SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I DO NOT NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY. I WOULD ASK THAT IT BE TABLED AND LET ME SHOW YOU WHY.

WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER. AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE LIBRARY.

AND WE DID TALK ABOUT THE POLICY. MY STRENGTH AND MY PAST EXPERIENCE IN WORK AND BUSINESS HAS BEEN ACCOUNTING, IT HAS BEEN DATA COLLECTION.

IT IS REALLY TAKING EMOTION OUT OF IT AND LOOKING AT WHAT THE DATA TELLS ME.

AND THAT IS HOW I GOT INVOLVED IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS. AND THOSE ARE ONE OF THE THINGS I SPOKE ABOUT HIS I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE WERE COMPLEX.

EVEN WITHIN OUR OWN POLICIES. AND WHAT I WAS SEEN AS WE WERE PUTTING FORTH THE.

RESPONSIBILITY IS THE FIRST ONE. AND YET THE INTERNET POLICY HAS VERBIAGE IN THERE THAT TALKS ABOUT OBSCENITY. AND WE ARE ALL STRUGGLING WITH WHAT IS OBSCENE.

IN MY ASK IS CAN WE STILL TABLE IT AND LOOK AT ALL THE POLICIES? AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE DATED AND APPROVED AND CLEAR. WHETHER FROM THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION.

ARE WE AFFIRMING IT AS A CITY COUNCIL. BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE DATED. AND THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT TO HAVE IT BE TABLED. THE LAST SPEAKER SPOKE ABOUT WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY TO THESE LIBRARIANS. THEY ARE HIGHLY QUALIFIED HIGHLY TRAINED.

AND I GET. MY BACKGROUND IS YES WE TRUST THE NUMBERS WE TRUST THE PEOPLE.

AND THAT IS WHAT YOU VERIFY. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS INSTANT.

WE INADVERTENTLY VERIFY THAT THE BOOKS ARE ON THE SHELVES. AND I HAVE BEEN REALLY OPEN AND TALKED ABOUT FEEL LIKE A MINI DATABASE. IS NOT ABOUT BEATING ANYONE UP IT IS ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS IN OUR LIBRARIES. WHAT DO WE NEED TO SUBMIT RECONSIDERATION FORMS? IN OUR TO TELL YOU RIGHT ABOUT NOW WE ARE AT 384 BOOKS.

THAT IS A LOT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS NOT IN THE POLICY IS ATTEMPTING.

MR. HANNAH OF LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF TIMEFRAME BE IN THERE. BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT CLEAR.

IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING WE REPRESENT THE LIBRARY BOARD. >> I WAS AGAINST THIS BEING THE

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SO I AM PLEASED WITH THAT. IT BEING AN ONGOING AND HAVING THE PUBLIC WAS OFFERED THEIR HELP. IF YOU GUYS ARE OFFERING TO RECEIVE IT AND WORK TOGETHER.

I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING. >> CINDY TORRES. GIL BAKER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT HIS OPPOSITION AGAINST THIS. RANDALL BAKER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

FRANCESCO RODRIGUEZ, DO YOU NOT WISH TO SPEAK THAT ARE AGAINST IT? IT SAYS BOTH, I AM SORRY.

>> SPEAKER: I AM SORRY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING US IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS.

IF YOU KNOW MY CHILDREN. THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT EVERYONE WHO MEETS THEM IS ABOUT THEM. BEFORE THEY RECEIVE A MEAL THEY BLESSED.

AND BEFORE THEY LEAVE THEY THANK THEIR MAMA FOR DOING IT. I WANT TO DO THOSE TWO THINGS TODAY. I WANT TO THANK YOU GOD FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. I FELT LIKE FROM THE BEGINNING THAT IS WHAT THE GIFT WAS.

APOLOGIZE IF IT FELT IN ANY OTHER WAY TOWARDS ANY OTHER COUNCILPERSON.

OR THE LIBRARY STAFF. BUT I FELT LIKE I WAS A CALLING. AND IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE TO BE IN MY SHOES, ALSO. TO BE THE. THAT SAYS I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

BUT THANK YOU FOR THE APPROACH IN TRYING TO SOLVE IT. AND THANK YOU GOD AGAIN FOR COURT FORTIFYING. HELPING US FORTIFY OUR WALLS IN ABILENE.

AND I WANT TO SAY AS FAR AS THE PARENTAL POLICY GOES, IT IS A STEP.

AND NOW THAT YOU ARE SAYING IT IS AN OPEN STEP I KNOW THERE IS A HUGE TEAM THAT IS BUILT OUT OF PASSION FROM THIS CAUSE. AND THERE ARE LOTS OF GIFTS THE LORD HAS GIVEN US WITHIN THAT GROUP. AND I AM SURE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO MAKE THIS START EVEN BETTER. SO THANK YOU, YOU GUYS ALL. AND LADIES FOR HEARING US.

>> KAREN LIGHT. I WILL READ THIS. OKAY.

SHE JUST SAYS THANK YOU FOR THE CHANGES YOU'RE MAKING AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.

THEY ARE NOTICED AND APPRECIATED. THAT WAS KAREN LIGHT.

>> DOROTHY CLAY, ABILENE, TEXAS. I TOO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION REGARDING THIS CONCERN IN OUR CITY.

IT IS JUST WONDERFUL WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

BUT RECENTLY I CAME ACROSS THIS EXCERPT FROM COREY TIM BURNS HER BOOK ENTITLED THE HIDING PLACE.

AND I FEEL IT IS APPROPRIATE GIVING OUR NATIONS FASCINATIONS WITH SEX EDUCATION FOR CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS KINDERGARTEN IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. SO HERE IS THE EXCERPT.

SEX, I WAS PRETTY SURE MEANT WHETHER YOU WERE A BOY OR GIRL. AND SEEING TANTE JEN ANGRY, PUT THE TWO TOGETHER. SITTING NEXT TO FATHER IN THE TRAIN COMPARTMENT I SUDDENLY ASKED FATHER, WHAT IS SEX. HE TURNED TO LOOK AT ME AS HE ALWAYS DID WHEN ANSWERING THE QUESTION. BUT TO MY SURPRISE HE SAID NOTHING.

AT LAST HE STOOD UP, LIFTED HIS TRAVELING CASE FROM THE WRECK OVER OUR HEAD AND SET IT ON THE FLOOR. WOULD YOU CARRY IT OFF THE TRAIN, COREY? I STOOD UP, TUCKED AT IT. IT WAS CRAMMED WITH WATCHES AND SPARE PARTS YOU PURCHASE THIS

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AND IT WOULD BE A PRETTY POOR FTHER WHO WOULD ASK HIS LITTLE GIRL TO CARRY SUCH A LOAD.

IT IS THE SAME WAY, COREY, WITH KNOWLEDGE. SOME KNOWLEDGE IS TOO HEAVY FOR CHILDREN. WHEN YOU ARE OLDER AND STRONGER YOU CAN BEAR IT.

FOR NOW YOU MUST TRUST ME TO CARRY IT FOR YOU. THIS IS FROM "THE HIDING PLACE " THE TRIUMPHANT TRUE STORY OF COREY TENBOM. SOME ARE TOO HEAVY AND AS PARENTS WE ARE RESPONSIBLE. A LOVE THAT PART BUT ALSO I LEAVE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES SHOULD BE PUT IN PLACE. AND I LOVE THE PROCEDURES BEING MADE TO ENSURE THAT ACCOUNTABILITY IS MADE. TO MAKE SURE OUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND

HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: JOY DEBORA. >> GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS JOEY DEBORA LIFELONG RESIDENT OF ABILENE SIXTH GENERATION TEXAN. I DON'T NORMALLY SPEAK LIKE THIS. EVERY NOW AND AGAIN IT'S CAUGHT MY ATTENTION AS IT HAS CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF OTHERS. I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING FORMALLY PREPARED SET DOWN SOM NOTES.

I LEARNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE COUPLE DAYS AGO. BECAUSE IT HAS DRAWN A LOT OF CRITICISM. SO I COME HERE OUT OF CONCERN WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE? I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PARENTAL RESOLUTION WITH THE LIBRARY. AS PARENTS WE ALL HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES TO OUR CHILDREN, RIGHT? THE LIBRARY IS NOT A CHURCH, IT IS NOT A DAYCARE CENTER. IT IS A PLACE THAT THROUGHOUT HISTORY LIBRARIES ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR SOCIETY. AND THE BANNING OF BOOKS HAPPENS IN WAVES THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF HUMAN HISTORY. AND THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF AMERICAN HISTORY.

WE SAW A BIG HOOPLA DURING THE 1950S AND 1960S DURING AN ERA KNOWN AS MCCARTHYISM, THE RED SCARE. AROUND THAT TIME THERE WERE SEVERAL BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY'S THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRATION, INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES, AND ALSO GAY AND LESBIAN RIGHTS. ENTERING THOSE TIMES MEETINGS LIKE THIS ONE EXACTLY WERE HELD.

AND THE SAME PROCESS WAS HAPPENING BACK THEN. AND FOLKS TRY TO SAY THERE'S A LIST OF 300 BOOKS ABOUT INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE, IMMIGRATION, CIVIL RIGHTS THAT OUR CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE READING. SO I COME FROM IT IS APPARENT PERSPECTIVE. WHEN MY KIDS GO TO THE LIBRARY I HAVE TWO YOUNG CHILDREN, TWO OLDER CHILDREN. WHEN MY OLDER KIDS COME. IF THEY WANT TO CHECK OUT A BOOK ON DONALD TRUMP, ON KARL MARX, I FIND WITH IT. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO READ THAT LITERATURE. IF THEY WANT TO CHECK OUT A BOOK ON THE HISTORY OF EUROPE, OR THE HISTORY OF HUMAN SEXUALITY. WHICH PROBABLY DOES EXIST AT THE LIBRARY I FOR THAT.

PARENTAL GUIDANCE IS A GOOD THING. I THINK THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE DEFINITELY NEED TO START. BUT WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS - CONTENTIOUS MEETINGS ARE GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING. AND WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE? I HAVE HAD TO EXPLAIN TO MY CHILDREN WHAT A CROSS-DRESSER IS. AS RECENTLY AS YESTERDAY.

BECAUSE THEY ASKED THAT QUESTION. I HAVE HAD TO ANSWER SEVERAL QUESTIONS AS A PARENT. SO I AGREE WITH THE RESOLUTION, IT IS A GOOD START.

THANK YOU. >> JANE BEARING. >> SPEAKER: IM JANE JAM JANE A RESIDENT OF ABILENE. THANK YOU, COUNSEL FOR HAVING AN EVENHANDED

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CHILDREN ARE DRAWN TO THAT AREA. IS SOME LIBRARIES THERE IS A YOUNG ADULT SECTION.

THERE IS AN ADULT SECTION. THE LIBRARY IS PUT INTO, WHAT I HEARD SOMEONE CALL A BEAUTIFUL MAZE. WE TRY AS LIBRARIANS TO HELP EVERYONE LEARN HOW TO NAVIGATE THE MAZE OF THE LIBRARY. THE CHILDREN'S SECTION IS A CHILDREN'S SECTION.

IF YOU ARE A PARENT YOU GO TO THAT CHILDREN'S.. AND HELP THEM WITH YOUR BOOKS.

THE LIBRARIANSHIP IS A PROFESSION. IT IS A PROFESSION.

IT IS A CALLING. I LOST MY TRAIN. I WAS ALWAYS HEARD LAWS ARE MADE TO PROTECT US FROM OURSELVES. THE STAFF, THE CHILD. WE NEED TO REMEMBER EVERYBODY NEEDS REPRESENTATION IN THE LIBRARY. EVERY READER THEIR BOOK.

SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO KEEP THE LIBRARY AS THE PEOPLE'S UNIVERSITY.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: WE ARE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> THOSE ARE ALL OF THE CARDS. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? IF SO PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE

RECORD AND YOUR PRESIDENCY. >> BOB CHATFIELD ABILENE. I HOPE I AM LOUD ENOUGH FOR YOU.

MY HEARING IS EXCEPTIONAL FOR THE AGE, ANYONE WITH GRAY HAIR. HE DID SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK OF A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD APPRECIATE WITH ME ON THAT. I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK.

I THINKING YOU ARE THE CITY MANAGER OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

SORRY TO BE RUDE. THE SEVEN POINTS OF ONE OF THE CITIZENS YOU READ SOUNDED VERY GOOD. AND BECAUSE I VERY BEHIND, KYLE, ON THIS ISSUE.

DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE THIS LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD? >> THERE IS A LIBRARY ADVISORY

BOARD. IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? >> YES.

>> SPEAKER: LIKE I SAID THE SEVEN POINTS SOUNDED PRETTY GOOD.

BY THE WAY, YOU HAVE PROBABLY NOTICED IF YOU GO INTO ANY STORE IN ABILENE.

AND YOU BUY ANY FOOD PRODUCT. YOU WILL FIND LABELING THAT SAYS USDA APPROVED.

I THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE EVERY BOOK. I KNOW ARE LIBRARY STAFF ARE GOOD HARD-WORKING FOLKS CANNOT READ THEM ALL. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: WE ARE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THAT LOUD ENOUGH FOR THE AUDIENCE? [LAUGHTER] WAS A DO NOT KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ACCUSED YOU OF BEING TOO QUIET.

>> I AM RYAN GOODWIN I'M IN ABILENE CITIZEN. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR JOB, TRA TRAVIS I HEARD YOU GOT HIRED AT A NEW PLACE.

THIS IS BEEN A LONG PROCESS IT IS LIKE 3-4 MOFOUR MONTHS. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: A YEAR.

>> SPEAKER: WE KIND OF GOT INTO THE MIDDLE OF IT. I SAT DOWN WITH ROBERT FOR AN HOUR. JUST WHAT YOU WANT TO IMPLEMENT SOME THINGS.

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I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE.

WE TALK ABOUT SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIAL. ATTRACTED SEND YOU A LIST OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND YOUR EMAILS TO NOT ALLOW ME TO SEND IT TO YOU BECAUSE OF THE

CONTENT. [LAUGHTER] >> SPEAKER: I TRIED TO DO THAT.

AND THEN I LOOK AT THE LIBRARY POLICY. I CANNOT EVEN READ THOSE BOOKS OUT LOUD AND PROBABLY BE ARRESTED IF YOU DO. IF YOU HOLD DEADLY OFF FOR A MOMENT I DO NOT WANT TO BE ARRESTED FOR SENDING OUT PORN. I APPRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING THIS SUBJECT. WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED IT TURNED INTO AN LGBTQ WE ARE AGAINST EVERYONE. AND THE SUBJECT NEEDED TO STAY ON THE FACT THAT OUR KIDS ARE SEEING SCENES THAT ARE NOT JUST THEY MADE LOVE AND TURN THE PAGES EVERYTHING IS OVER.

THESE ARE DETAILED. I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU READ IN YOUR MAILBOX OR EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVEN'T EMAIL. THESE WERE DETAILED DESCRIPTIONS THAT HAPPENED IN THE BEDROOM HAPPENING. AND THESE ARE FOR 12-YEAR-OLDS TO READ.

AND THERE WAS STUFF IN THE CHILDREN'S SECTION. AND THERE WERE A LOT OF BOOKS.

APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE COMING FORWARD. AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THERE ARE THAT MANY BOOKS BEING ORDERED MAYBE A COUPLE MONTHS TO BE REVIEWED FORCES 30 DAYS SO WE HAVE TIME TO HELP YOU. THE CITIZENS ARE GOING TO WANT TO HELP YOU GO THROUGH THESE BOOKS. AND I WOULD APPRECIATE LOOKING AT THE SITE REPORT AND MAKING SURE IT IS A REFLECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE BEEN THERE A FEW TIMES AND I AM NOT QUITE SURE THAT IS THE CASE. AND I THINK THAT IS YOUR JOB TO DO THAT, NOT MINE. AT APPRECIATE IT IF TO SEE IF THAT IS A REFLECTION OF WHO WE

ARE AS A COMMUNITY. BACK FOLLOW ME TO SPEAK TO YOU. >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE?

>> JAMES SERGEANT ABILENE RESIDENT. I AM THANKFUL FOR THE TIME NOT ONLY SPENT BEHIND THE SCENES. NOT JUST AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS.

JUST A DIALOGUE COMING MAKING PROGRESS FROM BOTH SIDES. THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN.

I OPPOSE THE POLICY I THINK IT LACKS DEPTH. IS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MONITOR CHILDREN AND TEEN LIBRARY RESOURCES. ETIQUETTE IS GREAT WE ARE ALLOWING RESTRICTIONS. IS A FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. HE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COUNCIL. IT IS LABELED CHILDREN. AS PRIMARILY THE ONE EXAMPLE AND THOSE COMING UP. THAT IT IS CLEARLY NOT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THEM.

IS NOT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THEIR INVESTMENT. AS I STATED BEFORE BEING A FOSTER PARENT. THAT ADDRESSES A LOT OF CONCERNS FOR ME.

SOME OF THE KIDS WE MAY WELCOME INTO OUR HOME. LIKE TO HAVE FREEDOM TO PICKUP A BOOK. AS AN EXAMPLE TO THE GREAT WATERPARK.

I WILL NOT CHANGE MY FIVE YEAR-OLD TRY TO GO DOWN THE SLIDES AS MANY TIMES AS SHE DOES. BUT I AM GRATEFUL WITH USE OF THOSE RESOURCES.

AND LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER CONVERSATIONS, FURTHER PROGRESS FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY

AND KIDS. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: WE ARE STILL >> SPEAKER: EIGHT AND BELOW BUT

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SOMEONE ANSWER THAT FOR ME, PLEASE? >> I WOULD INVITE JULIE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC TOPIC OF THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR. COME ON UP, JULIE.

JULIE WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> THE LIBRARY POLICY LIMITS AND ACCOMPANIES MINORS TO THOSE EIGHT AND YOUNGER.

IF THEY WERE NINE YEARS OLD THE KID CAN COME TO THE LIBRARY. >> SPEAKER: IF THERE ARE NINE YEAR-OLD TO 15 OR WHATEVER. AND THEY COULD COME TO THE LIBRARY AND ACCOMPANIED.

THAT MEANS THEY CAN FREE ROOM? IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING, I GUESS? THAT MEANS SOMEONE CAN DROP OFF A LOAD OF KIDS INTO THE LIBRARY AND LET THEM FREE ROOM? THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE AS A POLICY TO ME. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

PARTICULARLY, AND I AGREE WITH ONE OF THE OTHER GENTLEMEN. IT IS NOT A MATTER OF THEM CHECKING IT OUT SO MUCH. ESPECIALLY AS IT IS WHAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO.

ESPECIALLY IF FREE-ROAMING AND UNSUPERVISED. THAT IS THE CONCERN I HAVE.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THERE IS A LOT OF PASSION BEHIND THIS.

BECAUSE IT IS A MORAL ISSUE. OUR COUNTRY WAS BASED ON MORAL ISSUES.

FREEDOM AND A WOM AGAINST WHAT WRONG. AND WHAT IS RIGHT.

ALL OF OUR LAWS ARE BASED ON MORAL PRINCIPLES. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

IT IS JUST NOT LEGAL. THEY ARE NOT MORALLY RIGHT. CONSIDERING ALL LAWS ARE WHAT IS A MORAL FOUNDATION. AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH TODAY.

AND WHOSE MORALITY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHOSE MORALITY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ARE WE GOING TO STAY AND PROTECT THE CHILDREN OF THOSE WHO HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW.

THAT HAVE A MORAL BASIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, APPRECIATE YOU HELPING.

MY CONCERN IS FOR THE CHILDREN WHO CAN BE FREE-ROAMING IN THE LIBRARY.

>> AT THANK YOU AS WELL, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO IN THE COMMUNITY.

THAT IS REALLY BEST PRACTICES. AND WE ENCOURAGE EACH ONE OF US TO TAKE CARE OF EACH OF OUR CHILDREN'S. AND OUR SCHOOLS ARE PUT IN AWKWARD SITUATIONS.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. WE ARE STILL ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

YES? >> SPEAKER: I AM JAMES WEISER AND ABILENE RESIDENT A FATHER OF TWO SMALL ABILINIEANS. BACK FOR ALL OF US FOR A CONVERSATION ABOUT LIBRARIES.

THIS IS EXCITING I AM A LIBRARIAN. THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES WILL NOT AROUSE AS MUCH PASSION ABOUT LIBRARY. THIS IS A VERY GOOD CONVERSATION AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED. SO MANY OF THE POINTS I WOULD'VE MADE HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE.

I ONLY HAVE TWO POINTS. ESPECIALLY FOR CONGRESSMAN - EXCUSE ME COUNCILMAN QUICK SPEAK

TO EXISTENCE. >> PLEASE DON'T EVER SAY THAT AGAIN, GOOD, LORD.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER MCALLISTER ON HIS, WITH THE IST REMOVING THE BIBLE

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I WOULD TAKE WE LIVE IN TENSION. AND OF US WANT OUR CHILDREN TO BE SEXUALIZED.

I AND VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THOSE CONCERNS. BUT AS CHILDREN GROW WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO DO MORE RESEARCH AND LOOK AT THE LITERATURE. THAT SHOWS THAT SOMETIMES WE THINK MIGHT BE SEXUALIZING OUR CHILDREN IS ACTUALLY INFORMING THEM WITH THE VOCABULARY.

THAT WOULD HELP THEM FROM BEING SEXUALIZED. THERE IS A WEALTH OF LITERATURE THAT SHOWS WHEN PEOPLE KNOW A VOCABULARY FOR BODY PARTS AND ACTIVITIES.

THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE FROM THE BEST OF CIRCUMSTANCES CAN BE ABUSED.

AND IT HELPS THEM KNOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING TO THEM. AS A LIBRARIAN I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO SHOW THE SOURCES. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS US TO SAY THERE ARE THINGS ABOUT SEX IN THIS BOOK I KNOW FOR YOU TO SEE IT. SOMETIMES THE THINGS ABOUT SEX YOU WANT YOUR KIDS NOT TO SEE MIGHT HELP THEM RIGHT ABUSIVE SITUATION.

I WOULD ALSO SAY ONE OTHER THING. I KNOW HOW BOOKS ARE ACQUIRED.

A LOT OF OUR WORK AS LIBRARIANS HAS BEEN GIVEN OVER TO APPROVAL PLANS.

WERE WE SAY TO A PUBLISHER IF YOU PUBLISH IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA WHO WOULD LIKE TO COLLECT THOSE BOOKS. SYSTEM THOSE BOOKS TO US WITH AN INVOICE.

THAT ALLOWS FOR A LOT OF PASSIVE COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THE CITY WOULD FUND THE CITY LIBRARY ENOUGH SO WE COULD HAVE A STAFF. SO THE STAFF HAS THE TIME TO LOOK AT THESE DECISIONS. AS A LIGHT. I THINK I DID ADVOCATE FOR OUR PROFESSION AND SAY WE NEED MORE MONEY, NOT LESS. AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE ALL HAVE TO GO AWAY WITH GREATER SUPPORT FOR THE LIBRARY HERE IN ABILENE. WHICH IS ONE OF THE GEMS IN THE CITY. AS A NEW ABILENE RESIDENT I MOVED HERE TWO YEARS AGO. THE REASON I MOVED HERE IS BECAUSE THE ABILENE LIBRARY AND LIBRARY CONSORTIUM IS HELD UP AS A NATIONAL EXAMPLE OF PUBLIC PRIVATE COLLABORATION. THAT IS A

POLICY. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: BACK, AND JULIE REALLY LIKES YOU. WE ARE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST

THIS ITEM? >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MARTINEZ MONICA WARREN WALKER. I AM A PROUD ABILENE RESIDENT. I HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE IN EDUCATION AND ADMINISTRATION. AS PART OF THAT WE DID EXTENSIVE TRAINING, RESEARCH, TEST PRACTICES, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES MY DECISIONS IS ADMINISTRATIVE WORK QUESTIONED B PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AWARE OF THINGS SUCH AS LAWS AND BEST PRACTICES. I WANTED TO GO AND SEE ABOUT THE LIBRARIANS. LOOK AT THEIR PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION. THIS IS WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE VERY ISSUE YOU ARE DECIDING TO SAY. ARTICLE SEVEN OF THE ARTICLE BILL OF RIGHTS SAID, QUOTE, ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF ORIGIN, BACKGROUND, DIFFUSER AGE HAVE A SENSE OF PRIVACY. THIS INCLUDES STUDENTS AND MINORS HAVE A RIGHT TO BE FREE FROM ANY UNREASONABLE INTRUSION INTO OR SURVEILLANCE OF THOSE AWFUL LIBRARIAN YOU SPENT LIBRARIES SHOULD NOT L LIMIT, THAT WAS ". VIBRATIONS NOT LIMIT THE RESOURCES SIMPLY BECAUSE MINORS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THEM. A LIBRARIES FAILURE TO ACQUIRE MATERIALS ON THE GROUNDS THAT MINORS MAY BE ABLE TO ACCESS THOSE MATERIALS DIMINISHES THE CREDIBILITY OF THE LIBRARY IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND RESTRICTS ACCESS FOR ALL LIBRARY USERS. THE LIBRARIES AND THE GOVERNING BODIES OF THE LEGAL AND PROFESSIONAL OBLIGATION TO ENSURE THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE HAVE FREE AND EQUITABLE ACCESS TO A DIVERSE RANGE OF LIBRARY RESOURCES AND SERVICES.

THAT IS INCLUSIVE REGARDLESS OF CONTENT. APPROACH OR FORMAT. THIS PRINCIPLE OF LIBRARY SERVICE APPLIES EQUALLY TO ALL USERS. MINORS AS WELL AS ADULTS BUT LACK OF ACCESS TO INFORMATION CAN BE HARMFUL TO MINORS. CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS AND QUESTIONABLY.

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THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? >> SPEAKER: GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS ERICA PATTON AND YES I AM AN ABILENE CITIZEN. A TEXAS LOVING MOM. FREEDOM LOVING WHO LOVES THAT I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BOOKS THAT I KIDS ARE CHECKING OUT. AND LOOKING AT IN THE LIBRARY.

I LOVE HAVING THAT FREEDOM. AND I LOVE THAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON A POLICY.

IN TRYING TO GET IT. I DO NOT WANT MY KIDS JUMPING ON THE FURNITURE OF THE LIBRARY.

I DON'T WANT ANY KIDS. YES, WE NEED TO KEEP WORKING ON THAT.

AND I LIKE THAT WE ARE WORKING. AND I LOVE THAT THE CITY IS LISTENING TO THE PARENTS OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE KIDS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE LIBRARIES. WHO ARE FOR OUR KIDS. WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT.

IS THAT THIS POLICY IS NOT COMPLETE. MAYOR WILLIAMS, HE SAID THE LAST

TIME IT WAS CHANGED OR WORKED ON WAS IN THE 80S. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THE ADVISORY

BOARD, YES. >> IS POLICY THAT IS ABOUT TO BE SET ON PLACE.

COULD POSSIBLY BE 40 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE BEST POLICY AVAILABLE. AND I THINK CITIZENS WHO COULD PUT SOME INPUT, SOME MORE WORK ON IT TO MAKE IT REALLY GOOD, LASTING. IT WILL OUTLIVE POSSIBLY MOST OF OUR LIVES. SO LET'S DO IT REALLY WELL. LET'S DO IT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. LET'S GET OUR CITIZENS, MORE RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE INVOLVED.

AND MAKE IT TO THE VERY BEST. I WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MY KIDS ARE DOING IN THE LIBRARY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DO NOT WANT TO ABSOLVE THAT THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS TO PROTECT OUR KIDS. ANTI- AM AFRAID THIS POLICY DOESN'T DO THAT.

IF OUR POLICE OFFICERS - I WAS RUNNING LATE. AND THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER CHECKING SPEEDING. LIKELY, I WAS NOT SPEEDING. BUT WE WILL LET EVERYONE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN SPEED. AND WE WILL LET THEM MONITOR IT. AND YOU FEEL LIKE CITIZEN ACCOUNTABLE WE WILL LET THEM DO THAT ON THEIR OWN. THAT WOULD BE A SCARY SITUATION.

SO WHEN OUR KIDS IN THE LIBRARY, LET'S MAKE SURE THIS POLICY IS THE BEST.

PLEASE TAKE THIS TODAY AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS

ITEM? >> SPEAKER: BRENT FISHER, ABILENE, TEXAS.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU COUNSEL, THANK YOU, ROBERT. THANK YOU, STAN, FOR WORKING WITH US. THERE IS SOME PROGRESS HERE AND IT IS GOOD.

I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO KNOW WE DO NOT WANT TO WORK AS A TEAM BECAUSE WE DO.

I APPRECIATE YOU SPENDING PROBABLY LOTS MORE TIME THAN YOU ANTICIPATED SOMETHING LIKE THE LIBRARY ISSUE. I WANT TO STATE AS WELL, SIMILAR TO SEVERAL OTHERS.

WE CAN TABLE A POLICY. IT IS VERY GOOD IN GENERALITY. IN THE WHOLE DOCUMENT BUT THERE ARE A FEW PLACES WE GET REAL SPECIFIC AND IMMEDIATELY GET VERY VAGUE.

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BUT AGE APPROPRIATENESS HANDS OFF, WE DON'T KNOW. I THINK THERE IS SOME VERBIAGE WE COULD CHANGE. I WOULD ASK YOU CONSIDER TABLING IT MAY BE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION, THESE ARE ADDITIONAL IDEAS WE COULD COME UP WITH. AS WE HAVE BEEN TAKING THROUGH THESE BOOKS. THERE NOT ONLY SEXUALLY EXPLICIT.

MOST OF THEM COME WITH EXPLICIT PROFANITY. I SENT EVERY CONSIDERATION REQUEST ON A CHILD'S BOOK THAT COVERED SEX TRAFFICKING, RAPE, PHYSICAL ABUSE.

ATTENDED CHILDREN'S BOOK ABOUT DEMONIC POSSESSION. AND INSTRUCTS CHILDREN ON HOW DEMONS ARE FRIENDLY. THINGS THAT ARE OBSCENE ALTOGETHER.

IT IS NOT JUST SEXUAL. WE HAVE THESE LABELS AND THE LIBRARY ON OUR BOOKS.

LITTLE BLUE CROSSES THAT SAY CHRISTIAN. ALL OVER THE LIBRARY.

AND IT TELLS YOU IT IS A CHRISTIAN BOOK OR THERE IS CHRISTIAN MATERIAL.

IS A WARNING. IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR CHILDREN TO CHRISTIAN MATERIAL IT IS A WARNING. THE WAY THE BOOKS ARE SET UP THERE IS NO SEPARATE SECTION THEY ARE EVERYWHERE. THERE IS NO DIVISION, WE DO NOT KNOW.

A CHILD COULD FIND IT, AND TOLD CAN FIND IT. THIS IS GOOD PROGRESS WITH US HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. THAT THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE WITH BOOKS ALREADY ON THE SHELF. IN THE 1200 OR MORE THAT ARE COMING THIS YEAR, AND NEXT YEAR, AND THE YEAR AFTER OF HOW WE CAN DO THAT. ONE QUESTION I HAVE, MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE AN ANSWER TO. ROBERT, UNDER SECOND ITEM ON THE GENERAL, YOUR GRADING ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY INPUT AND PROCUREMENT OF LIBRARY MATERIALS SO CITIZENS CAN ACCEPT OR PROTEST. THERE IS NOT A BOARD RIGHT NOW BESIDES ELABORATE ADVISORY REPORT. SOMEHOW TO PARENTS LIKE MYSELF HAVE INPUT TO SAY WE DON'T RECOMMEND THIS? AND REASONABLE, NOT JUST NEED YOU TO VIEW 1200 BOOKS AND LET US KNOW.

IF YOU COULD GIVE US DETAILS ABOUT HOW YOU SEE THAT LOOKING LIKE.

WHAT I AM HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT NOW OR AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: ADDRESS IT

NOW. >> THE PROCESS WOULD BE DONE TO THE PUBLIC MEETING OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY ADVISORY REPORT. WHAT OF THE QUESTIONS THE MAYOR HAD THIS MORNING.

ACTUALLY MY WIFE AND I WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR DEVOTIONAL DID NOT ANSWER HIS CALL.

THAT IS UNUSUAL I USUALLY ANSWER THAT CALL. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: YOU HAD TO

SAY THAT [LAUGHTER]. >> SO I CALLED HIM BACK AND HIS QUESTION WAS, LOOK.

WE'VE GOT TO GET THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE BOOKS ARE.

UNDER LAW WERE REQUIRED 72 HOURS NOTICE. THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TIME.

EVERYONE RECOGNIZES YOU CANNOT SLAM 1200 BOOKS AND ONLY PROVIDES 24 HOURS NOTICE.

THE LAB REPORT CANNOT PROCESS. THERE HAS TO BE SOME TIMEFRAME. NOW IS THAT 30 DAYS, 60 DAYS, 90 DAYS? I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES ON IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. 30 DAYS MAY NOT BE LONG ENOUGH. PERHAPS 60 DAYS IS A GOOD STANDARD. THAT IS CLOSE TO A QUARTER. MAYBE WE ANNOUNCE THE BOOKS WE WILL PURCHASE OF THE BEGINNING OF THE QUARTER. BECAUSE GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT. AND THREE MONTHS LATER WHETHER PROCESSES.

IT WAS SO THE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL THAT ENTERS THE LIBRARY. THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THING. THEY WANT THAT NEW BOOK. WEN WE GET NOTIFICATION FROM THE PUBLISHERS THE BOOKS ARE COMING SOMETIMES IT IS A SIX-MONTH PROCESS.

HEY, THIS BOOK IS COMING OUT. IS NOT NECESSARILY HIT OURSELVES UNTIL SIX MONTHS LATER.

MAYBE 80, 90 DAY REVIEW PROCESS IS FINE. WHAT THE FREEDOM TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH THE LIBRARY PROFESSIONALS. TO DETERMINE THAT.

IF THERE'S CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING LANGUAGE IN THE POLICY WE CAN SET A DATE.

WE CAN SET SOME TIME. THE REASON WHY SOME THINGS ARE VAGUER IS BECAUSE IT IS A COMPLEX ISSUE. THE THICVAGUENESS ALLOWS GIVE TAKES.

IT ALLOWS THINGS TO BE CHANGE. I HOPE - I WOULD RECOMMEND FROM A LANGUAGE TEMPLATE IS THERE BE A REASONABLE TIME. AND A REALISTIC TIME. FOR THE PUBLIC TO REFUTE THE

BOOKS. BEFORE DECISIONS WERE MADE OF >> AND THE APPROPRIATE

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THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WAS TO SPEAK FOR OREGON THIS ITEM? FOR

OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? >> I AM SAM MCGUIRE AND APPLIN >> I AM SAM MCGUIRE AND APPLING CITIZEN. FIRST OFF WHAT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PARTICIPATION THAT WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR. THE ADVANCEMENTS WE HAVE MADE. THE COOPERATION WE HAVE SEEN I THINK IT IS AWESOME. AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SPIRIT RESPONSIBILITY THINK BE TABLED UNTIL IT CAN BE REVIEWED. AND POSSIBLY SOME MEAT BE ADDED TO IT.

I THINK IT IS INADEQUATE AND WHAT IT SAYS. I ALSO WANT TO ADD ON A SIDE NOTE. THAT MY PERSONALS CONCERN AS FAR AS THE LIBRARY BOOK ISSUED.

IS THE PHYSICAL ACCESSIBILITY OF SOME OF THESE MATERIALS. AS WAS IDENTIFIED EARLIER. KIDS CAN WALK IN THERE. WE ALREADY SAID THEY CAN BE DROPPED OFF AS YOUNG AS NINE YEARS OLD. THE COUPLE A BOOK OFF THE SHELF, SIT AT A TABLE AND LOOK AT IT. I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN AND THESE ARE BOOKS I WOULD DEFINITELY NOT WANT MY GRANDCHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT. ONCE YOU HAVE SEEN SOMETHING YOU CANNOT UNSEAT UT NT ST ET I THAT IS ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS JUST A LITERAL PHYSICAL ACCESSIBILITY OF SOME OF THESE MATERIALS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

TIME I APPRECIATE. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE?

>> SPEAKER: MY NAME IS LINDA BUCKMAN I LIVE IN ABILENE. I WAS TOTALLY UNPREPARED TO DO THIS BUT I HAVE BEEN GETTING THIS PROVOCATION TO SPEAK. HITLER ONCE SAID GIVE ME A CHILD UNTIL HE IS FIVE AND HE WILL BE MINE FOREVER. APPLY THAT TO SEXUALITY.

WHEN YOU TURN SEX ON IN A CHILD IT NEVER TURNS OFF. AND PREDATORS AND PEOPLE WHO SUFFER FROM SEXUAL ISSUES. THE MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE A SERIOUS PAST WITH DYSFUNCTIONAL SEX IN SOME WAY. HAVE A SAID THAT NOBODY SEEMS TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THERE ARE PORNOGRAPHIC - LAWS AGAINST PORNOGRAPHY IN TEXAS. AND I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU SAY THESE BOOKS ARE EDUCATIONAL, THEY ARE OUTRIGHT DISGUSTING, PORNOGRAPHIC BOOKS.

AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN THE LIBRARY AT ALL. BUT WE ARE NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT. WE ARE ADVOCATING IS MARKING THEM AS SUCH.

POSSIBLY PUTTING THEM IN A SEPARATE SECTION. AND KEEPING THEM AWAY FROM THE EYE LEVEL AND THE ABILITY. THE EYE LEVEL OF THE CHILDREN AND THE ABILITY OF THEM TO GRAB THEM OFF THE SHELF. BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL APPEALING THEY HAVE PRETTY COLORS ON THEM.

THEY HAVE CARTOON CHARACTERS ON THEM. THEY ARE APPEALING TO YOUNG CHILDREN. SO THE CHILDREN ARE GOING TO WANT TO GO TO THEM AND GRAB THEM OFF THE SHELVES. WHAT WAS THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY? I WANTED TO PHOTOGRAPH WEDDINGS. I NEVER HAD MY PROFESSIONAL WORK PROCESSED IN A LIBRARY I WENT TO A PROLAPSE. BUT THERE WERE TIMES I WANTED SOME OF THOSE PICTURES FOR MY OWN SCRAPBOOK. I - THIS IS IN THE DATE OF THEM. EVEN DIGITAL I WOULD TAKE THEM TO WALMART. I GET THEM PROCESS I WOULD COME BACK THE NEXT DAY AND COULD NOT GET THEM. I HAD TO PROVE I WAS THE PHOTOGRAPHER THAT TOOK THOSE PROFESSIONAL PICTURES. THAT GOES BACK TO THE FACT THAT SOMEONE SAID - THE REASON WE ARE OBJECTING TO THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY ISSUE. IS IT IS PUTTING ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE PARENT. AND GOD KNOWS, EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AS A PARENT WANTS THAT

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WHY CAN'T THE LIBRARIAN SEE IT IS - I TOLD YOU I NERVOUS ABOUT THIS.

A CHILD OR TEEN CHECKING OUT THIS BOOK OF THE BOOK HAS A WORKING ON IT.

LIKE THE CHRISTIAN BOOK HAS EMBARKED ON IT. IF IT HAS A MARK YOU CAN SAY YOU CANNOT CHECK THIS BOOK OUT. HOW HARD IS THAT? THEY ARE SITTING AT THE DESK THEY SEE THE SIGN AND SAY WE CANNOT GIVE YOU THIS BOOK. LIKE THE PERSON IN THE STORE SAID I COULD NOT HAVE THE PICTURES UNTIL I PROVED I WAS THE PHOTOGRAPHER.

I SAID THIS ALL BADLY BUT I HOPE I MADE SENSE. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: IS THERE

ANYONE ELSE? >> SPEAKER: SAYS, GENERAL PERSON.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: YOUR NAME? >> SPEAKER: MY NAME IS MARIO SEAGRAM AND I DO LIVE IN ABILENE. MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT NOT BEING AN AGENDA.

AND I AM NOT ATTACKING ANYTHING OR ANYBODY. THE LADY WHO CAME HERE LAST MADE PRETTY MUCH THE POINT I AM TALKING ABOUT. CONCERNING THERE BEING AN AGENDA. OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON MORAL ISSUES.

ABOUT THESE KINDS OF THINGS. ABOUT BRINGING OUR CHILDREN, OUR COUNTRY TO WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE. AND WHAT IT HAS BEEN UNTIL JUST RECENTLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS EVERYTHING STARTING THIS WAY. HAS ALREADY STARTED.

IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING THIS WAY. AND WE ARE HAVING THESE KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS. AND YOU ARE WORKING HARD ON THIS, YOU ARE.

AND GLAD TO SEE THAT. I AM GLAD AND HAPPY PEOPLE ARE EXPRESSING. BECAUSE, ALSO, THIS IS WHAT OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON. WHEN I CAN INTO THE MISSION FIELD. AS AMERICAN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT LIKE US BECAUSE WE COME IN. BECAUSE THEY KNEW WHAT WE ARE ABOUT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MANY ARE SO WELCOMING. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE MESSAGE WE BRING. AND IT IS NOT JUST A MESSAGE IT IS A MORAL MESSAGE. WHEN WE GO TO THESE PLACES IN THE WORLD AND WE SET FOOT ARE BRINGING ALL THESE VALUES AS WELL. YOU KNOW, I HAVE AN 18 YEAR-OLD KID. AUNTIE WAS A SEVEN YEAR-OLD BABY. AND I THINK I TAUGHT HIM WELL AS A FATHER. YOU KNOW, WHEN HE CAME TO VISIT FROM FLORIDA. AND I DROPPED HIM OFF AT THE AIRPORT HERE. HE IS SIX FOOT TALL OR SOMETHING, MAYBE MORE THAN THAT, I BELIEVE.

AND SO, ITEMS LIKE I WILL GIVE HIM A KISS ON THE FOREHEAD. AND RIGHT AT THE MOMENT HE KNEW.

HE JUST BENDS OVER PSYCHIC IF IT BECAUSE ON THE FOREHEAD. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THANK YOU,

SIR. >> IT IS PRETTY FUNNY. BUT THIS IS WHAT GOD DOES.

SPREAD THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> IT IS THE WAY GOD BROUGHT US UP.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THANK YOU, SIR. >> SAID WE NEED TO RECEIVE THAT. RECEIVED THAT HE IS REALLY DOING SOMETHING SPECIAL.

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? >> I HEARD SOME TALK APPEAR THAT THE LIBRARIANS WORK FOR US, AND THE STUFF. I WENT IN THERE INTERVIEW WITH THE CAMERA. AND I DID A NICE LITTLE VIDEO ON THE NORTH ABILENE LIBRARY. IT

WAS GOOD I TALKED TO SOM HOMELE THEY WERE >> SPEAKER: 1134 PARK AVE.

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THIS TRANSCRIPT MAY NOT BE COPIED OR DISSEMINATED UNLESS YOU OBTAIN WRITTEN PERMISSION FROM THE OFFICE OR SERVICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS PROVIDING CART CAPTIONING TO YOU.

THIS TRANSCRIPT MAY NOT BE USED IN A COURT OF LAW. -MH *****DISCLAIMER***** ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY USE REPLICATION OF THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS BOOK.

I LIKE DEER HUNT TO USE OTHER BAKED ARE BLIND IS THAT OF A FEEDER YOU FEED THE DEER. AND THEN YOU SHOOT THE DEER. I WAS FORTUNATE TO HUNT INTIMACY. INTIMACY THEY HAVE DIFFERENT RULES YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO FEED CORN TO THE DEER. YOU CANNOT HUNT OVER THE.

IF I GO BACK THIS YEAR MAYBE I SET UP A DEER FEEDER AND I SET UP A SIGN.

AND DESIGN IS A SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS FOR THE BIRDS AND SQUIRRELS ONLY.

AND ANY DEER SEEN EATING THIS CORN WILL BE SHOT DEAD. I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN SELL THAT TO THE GAME WARDEN OR NOT. I NOT SURE I CAN RISK IT. MAKE MY POINT, OBVIOUSLY.

I APPRECIATE THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY. AS A PERIOD OF SIX THAT IS MY JOB. BUT, HOWEVER, THERE ARE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES OUT THERE AND ALLOWING SOME OF THE IMAGES IN THESE BOOKS. TO BE SEEN CANNOT BE UNSEEN.

MY LAST 60 SECONDS. I LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COLOR ISD ISSUE.

INSTRUCT ABOUT ON THE GLENN BECK SHOW YESTERDAY. HE SPENT TEN MINUTES ON IT.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE COLOR ISD CHANGE THE POLICY THAT ANYONE AT ISSUE WITH THE BOOK CAN PRESENT THE BOOK. AND THEN IT WOULD BE REVIEWED TO SEE IF IT IS ACCEPTABLE OR NOT.

A LOT OF THE NATIONAL MEDIA IS TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE PRESENTED THE BIBLE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED. WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND THAT REVIEWED.

IT IS CALLED GENDER QUEER. WHICH AS BAD AS THE BOOK "LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. " THERE ARE THINGS ABOUT MEN HAVING RELATIONSHIPS WITH YOUNG BOYS. IT IS VERY GRAPHIC, IT IS VERY INAPPROPRIATE. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

LIKE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IT COLOR ISD. IN CLOSING I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, AND WOMEN. DONNA, THANK YOU FIGURE SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

'S COUNSEL HAVE ANY COMMENTS? OR ANY QUESTIONS?DOES COUNSEL HAVE OR ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THIS IS THE FIRST I HAVE HEARD OF THE PUBLISHERS MARK, IS THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE DOING?

>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: IS THE FIRST I HEARD OF IT. JULIE CAN YOU TALK TO THE MICROPHONE AND PEOPLE ON T.V.. AS DAVID LIKES TO CALL IT T.V. LAND.

>> IT IS A STAFF PLACED AS THE HOOKS COME IN. THERE IS A LOT OF CHRISTIAN FICTION THAT IS A POPULAR. THE STOP AT IDENTIFIER LIKE A MINISTRY OR SCIENCE FICTION.

>> GO AHEAD. STAFF PLACES THAT UNDER TO IDENTIFY IT?

>> PATRONS CAN EASILY PULL IT OUT. OF MINISTRY BECAUSE A STICKER ON

IT. >> IS WOULD BE SHOWN THROUGHOUT THE LIBRARY OVER THE APPROPRIATE

SECTION IS. >> BY AUTHOR AND FICTION. >> MYSTERY BOOKS, SIMILAR BOOKS

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HAVE SIMILAR MARKETS? >> LET ME MAKE THIS BROAD COMMENT.

I WOULD LIKE JULIE, MYSELF, AND STANLEY TALK ABOUT A STICKER ABOUT OTHER THINGS BEEN ADDRESSED. FROM THE STANDPOINT OF SEXUAL CONDUCT.

I KNOW IT IS A BROAD CATEGORY THEIR LEGAL THINGS WE HAVE TO WORK AROUND.

IF THEY DO NOT AND IT IS LEGAL I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULDN'T. IF THEY CAN DO IT AND IT IS LAWFUL.

WE WANT COUNSEL TO GIVE ME THE PERMISSION TO WORK ON THAT. >> I WANT TO ADD TO THAT.

THE ADVISORY BOARD. THE PUBLIC TIME. AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROCESS.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION HERE. >> ONE, BECAUSE THIS IS BROUGHT UP A FEW TIMES IN REGARDS TO BEING CAREFUL. LET'S GET IT PERFECT. AND LEAN THAT WAY WHEN TALKING ABOUT AN ORDINANCE. BECAUSE AN ORDINANCE HAS A $500 FINE IF YOU VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE. AND THERE IS ENFORCEMENT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT. THERE IS SOMEBODY OUT THERE ENGAGED IN MAKING SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING IT EXACTLY HOW THE CITIZENS ARE FOLLOWING IT. WITH THE POLICY WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS NOW THAT ARE IDENTIFIED BY THE CITIZENS.

ASKING FOR THIS INPUT THAT WE CAN THEN EVALUATE. THAT WE GO FAR ENOUGH.

TO WE NEED TO GO FURTHER? AND BY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INPUTS WE CAN DO THAT.

JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT IT FOR A LONG TIME DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE TO L WEAK 40 YEARS TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN. I AM IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD ADDRESSING THE CHANGES WE CAN MAKE. SO WE CAN BE RESPONSIVE AND RESPECTFUL OF THE WISHES OF THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. THAT WAS MY COMMENT IN REGARDS TO THE TABLING.

ONE OF THE THINGS I DID NOT SEE IN HERE. AND I DO NOT KNOW IF IT HASN'T COME UP. WHAT HAPPENS ON A REPEAT REQUEST? IF THE BOOK GETS PULLED ASSESSES NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED. AND IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS 30, 60, 90 DAYS HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES. AND THE DECISION IS MADE, EVENTUALLY, THIS GOES BACK ON THE SHELF. AND IT GOES BACK ON THE SHELF AND SOMEBODY SAYS - POSITIVE AND SAYS I WANT A REPEAT AGAIN. IS NOT ADDRESSED IN THE POLICY? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN

CONSIDER? >> IT IS POSSIBLE YOU CAN HAVE SOMEBODY DO THAT.

UNDER THE POLICY THAT INSTRUCTED. WE ACTUALLY STARTED THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THE RECONSIDERATION PROCESS. AND HAND TO GOD THE COUNCIL MEETING. AFTER JULIE AND I SAT DOWN AND STARTED TO WRITE IT WAS ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS. WITH US ALL CAME BEFORE US. SO THAT ALL STOPPED TO A HALT.

BECAUSE THIS WAS A PRESSING ISSUE. WE ARE NOT DONE REVIEWING LIBRARY POLICIES. WE WILL LOOK AT ALL THE POLICIES.

AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED. OR COUNSEL WANTED TO SAY THAT NOW AND PROVIDE DIRECTION WE CAN MAKE SURE IT IS INCLUDED IN THE LAB REPORT.

THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND REVIEW THAT.

>> I WOULD LIKE THAT QUESTION ANSWERED. DEFINITELY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

SOMETHING I DID NOT SEE ADDRESSED IN SOMETHING THAT CAME TO MIND.

IN THE RESOLUTION IT SPECIFIES THAT ANY VACANCY ON THE ADVISORY BOARD HAS TO BE FILLED WITHIN 30 DAYS. THAT SEEMS PRETTY QUICK. IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IT IS BEEN DIFFICULT TO FIND PEOPLE WILLING TO SERVE ON ONE BOARD OR ANOTHER.

THERE IS ANOTHER TYPE RECOUNT BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. THAT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO

SPECIFY A TIMEFRAME. SO TO BE REAFFIRMED. >> 30 DAYS I THINK IS STANDARD LANGUAGE HAS BEEN IN THERE SINCE 1986. A LOT SEEMS TO BE ON OUR

COMMITTEES AND BOARDS. BUT THAT IS PRETTY STANDARD. >> 3.4 TALKS ABOUT - AND I BROUGHT THIS UP ON OTHER THINGS. I AM NOT REAL COMFORTABLE. SEVEN NUMBERS OF THE BOARD AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM TO HAVE A MEETING. BUT IT ONLY TAKES A MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS PRESENT, NOT A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD. YOU CAN PASS SOMETHING WITH THREE MEMBERS YOU HAVE THREE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THERE. I WOULT PREFER TO SAY IT IS THE MAJORITY

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AND THAT SHOULD BE THE GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR DESIGNING THE RULES OF ORDER FOR THE DIFFERENT PORTS. SO THEY GET TO REFLECT THAT AS WELL.

SECTION 3.5 SAYS THAT AND MEMBER OF THE BOARD AND MRS. THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS WITHOUT GOOD CAUSE IS SUBJECT TO REMOVAL. BUT IT DOES NOT SPECIFY REGULARLY. IN QUICK SUCCESSION THREE OR FOUR SPECIAL MEETINGS OF SOMEONE IS OUT OF TOWN. I DON'T THINK IT IS RIGHT TO PENALIZE THEM FOR MISSING SPECIAL MEETINGS. I GUESS ISSUE SPECIFY REGULAR MEETINGS.

THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE NOTES I HAD. OF THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT.

>> THOSE OF THE LIBRARY BYLAWS WE GET A PUZZLE UNDER THE ADVISORY.

UNDER CONSIDERATION, NOT A PROBLEM. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: I WOULD ASK TWO MEETINGS SHOULD PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT. WHEN THE CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARD MEETS. USING REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME IN THE LAST 90 DAYS OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. OF COURSE THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT AND CAN MAKE MODIFICATIONS. ANY MORE

COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL? >> COUNCILMAN ALBUS: AS A YOUNG WOMAN WE SET UP WHERE I CAME FROM. IT SET UP A LIFETIME OF CONVERSATIONS ANYTIME THEY HAD A QUESTION OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE PHYSICAL BEING TAKING TO THEIR MOTHER, NOT THEIR FATHER. AND US THAT SAME YOUNGER BR BROTHER, I SUPERVISED THEM IN THE SWIMMING POOL, BALLPARK, THE SOUK, WHEREVER WE WERE. THE MOM, IT WAS MY RESPONSIBILITY. AND SO I THINK BY GIVING PARENTS THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY, THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. WHETHER YOU HAVE THREE, SIX, OR SEVEN LIKE MY PARENTS HAD.

SO I REALLY DO THINK IT IS GREAT THAT WE PUT INTO OUR LIBRARY POLICY THAT IT IS ULTIMATELY THE

PARENTS RESPONSIBILITY. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THERE WILL BE SOME INITIAL COMMENTS.

IN REGARDS TO COUNCILMEMBER PRICE'S CONCERN OVER THE MAJORITY OF VOTING AND BEATING SMITH'S. QUICK STANLEY LIBRARY BOARD ADOPT THEIR OWN BYLAWS.

BUT WE CAN TAKE THE REQUEST BACK TO THEM. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: THIS PARTICULAR PILOT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL JULY 2020. SO IF THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO THE BYLAWS THEY HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

IN FACT THIS TO RESOLUTION BEFORE THE COUNCIL TODAY STATES THAT ALL BYLAWS CHANGES HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL QUICK THEY HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES TODAY IF THEY WANT WHAT THE RESOLUTION LANGUAGE WOULD TRUMP ANYTHING IN THE CURRENT BYLAWS.

MAY BE APPROPRIATE BYLAWS BE CHANGED AND LATER DATE. BUT WE WROTE IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE RESOLUTION LANGUAGE, IF IT IS CONTRARY TO WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT BYLAWS THE RESOLUTION

LANGUAGE CONTROLS. >> DO WE DO THAT WITH ANY OTHER BOARD?

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>> MAYOR WILLIAMS: KNOW. >> I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

TWO YEARS FROMS THE LIBRARY BOA YOU WILL LOOK AT THE BYLAWS. IWOULD NOT THINK WHAT WAS SAID IN THE RESOLUTION THAT ADOPTED THE BYLAWS THAT OVERWROTE WHAT IS IN THE BYLAWS.

IN MY OPINION, WHAT WE NEED TO DO TODAY IS A THESE ARE THE THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE BYLAWS. AND HAVE THE BOARD ADOPT THOSE CHANGES AND COME BACK TO US AND ADOPT THE BYLAWS WITH THAT LANGUAGE. INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HAVE THIS HYBRID OF THIS RESOLUTION OVERWRITING THE BYLAW. THAT IS MY PREFERENCE.

THAT SEEMS HISTORICAL. LOOKING BACK SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE THAT WILL BE CLEANER.

>> WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO THE LIBRARY BOARD. THE STANLEY CHARTER DOES NOT ALLOW US TO HAVE A BOARD. IS THE MOST I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO OR DOESN'T.

REQUIREMENT FOR LIBRARY BOARD. WE HAVE CREATED A LIVE REPORT THAT WAS SENT BY RESOLUTION.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ADDING TO THIS PROCESS IS IS PUBLIC INPUT AND PUBLIC REQUIREMENT PROCESS TO THE ENABLING LEGISLATION. AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE FOUNDING DOCTRINES OF THAT PARTICULAR REPORT. THERE IS NO WITH THE BYLAWS CAN BE EVER AMENDED TO GET OUT OF THAT CONCEPT. WHICH IS WHY WITHOUT THE RESOLUTION REGRADING LIBRARY BOARD WAS THE RIGHT MOVE. WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE BYLAWS AS WELL. THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE BYLAWS.

THEY COULD GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESS FOR THAT AMENDMENT. THAT IS VISIBLE COME TO COUNSEL AGAIN. IS YOUR DECISION. QUICK THERE MAY BE SOME WISDOM LIKE THIS PUBLIC CONVERSATION. THERE MAY BE SOME WISDOM IN THE ONE OFF.

TO MAKE THOSE MODIFICATIONS. ANTIPATHY ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE PERTINENT ISSUES AND REQUIRED WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY INSTEAD SOMETHING ELSE. BECAUSE WE ARE OUT OF TIME ALREADY. GOOD GOVERNANCE THERE MAY BE SOME WISDOM IN MAKING THE NEEDED MODIFICATIONS TO THE BYLAWS. AND ALLOWING THEM TO MAKE THAT CHANGE TO MAKE THE FOCAL POINT OF OPPORTUNITY TO DIVE INTO HOW WE EVALUATE AND SELECTION OF TITLES.

WITH THE OTHER THING I WAS A IS THE COUNCIL ADOPTED A RESOLUTION ON THE LIBRARY.

REGRADING THE LIBRARY BOARD TODAY. MAKES THE PROCESS WE FOLLOW FROM A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS ON THE ACQUISITION OF LIBRARY MATERIALS.

AND SO WE CAN START USING THAT IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE IT IS THERE IN OUR PROCESS.

IT IS CLEARLY IDENTIFIED. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM COMING BACK AND CORRECTING THE BYLAWS AT ALL. I THINK IT IS GOOD GOVERNANCE. BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ON HELPING TO LEAD THE ORGANIZATIONS TO THE CONCERNS OF CITIZENS.

HAVING A RESOLUTION ADOPTED TODAY GIVES ME THE AUTHORITY TO START REQUIRING THOSE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESSES. COOKED I CAN SUPPORT THAT IF WE ARE SAYING.

WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD TO ADOPT WHAT IS IN THE RESOLUTION. AS PART OF THE BYLAWS IN THESE OTHER TWEAKS. AND THEN THAT CAN COME BACK TO US AT A LATER TIME.

FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE LOOKING BACK YOU JUST HAVE TO SEE THE BYLAWS TO SEE WHAT ALL

THE EXPECTATIONS. >> MAYOR WILLIAMS: ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAIS? ARE

YOU DONE COUNCILMEMBER PRICE? >> LYNN WAS PREPARING TO MAKE IN ON THE SIDE OF THE DAIS? WAS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR ABOUT THIS. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE RESOLUTION HAS BYPASSED THE BYLAWS. BUT THAT BEING SAID I AM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

BECAUSE ON HERE IS IS THE ADVISORY BOARD IS IN SECTION 2.1 OF SEVEN QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE CITY. THE PEOPLE - IT IS THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.

BUT THOSE WHO CAN REQUEST BOOKS TO BE REVIEWED. IS THERE A REQUIREMENT OF THEM

TO BE VOTERS? >> ANY PATRON OF THE LIBRARY. UNDER THE CURRENT RECONSIDERATION POLICY IS IN THE COLLECTION OF POLICIES. DOES NOT SPECIFY A CITIZEN, NONCITIZEN IS AS ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY. OUR LIBRARY ALLOWS NONRESIDENTS, NONCITIZENS OF ABILENE TO BE PATRONS OF THE LIBRARY. WHICH IS THE REASON WHY THAT

LANGUAGE IS BROADLY CONSTRUCTED. >> OKAY. >> COUNSEL COULD RESTRICTED IF WANTED TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS WE? BROADLY CONSTRUCTED QUICK DEFINITELY I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR ON THAT PROCESS. THAT HELPS.

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