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. >> WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER THAT WAS SWORN IN MINUTES AGO. THIS THE ROBERT LOPEZ.
HE' HE'SOVER -- OVERSEEING OUR AGENCY. HE'S OUR REP TO THE BOARD.
>> TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.
I MOVED TO ABILENE TO TAKE ON THE JOB AS VICE PRESIDENT OF TAB LIEN COMMISSION OF VISITOR'S BUREAU AT THE END OF MARCH. I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN MAYBE SEVEN CLOSE TO EIGHT MONTHS I'VE BEEN HERE.
I'VE BEEN IN THE TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY INJURY 16 YEARS.
IN THE PAST TEN YEARS SPENT IN MCALLEN WHERE I WAS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE CBD THERE.
BUT I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE IN ABILENE.
I LOVE EVERYONE THAT I'VE MET.
I LOVE THE WARM REKREPGS RECEPTION I'VE BEEN GIVEN.
I'M HAPPY TO BE ON THIS BOARD.
>> WHERE ARE YOU FROM ORIGINALLY?
>> MCALLEN, TEXAS. >> WELCOME ABOARD.
WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> I THINK YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF FUN WITH THE FOLKS ON
THIS BOARD. >> IF RANDY SANG A SONG THEN
I KNOW I WOULD HAVE FUN. >> WHERE DID WE SEE YOU
DOING THE ANTHEM. >> VETERAN'S DAY PARADE.
>> THAT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME AS WELL.
>> THAT'S GOOD. >> LET'S MOVE ON.
>> ANY OTHER VISITORS? >> MANNY PATTERSON IS WITH
US. >> DO WE HAVE TO COUNT HER
>> BORDER LINE. >> I DARN WELL BETTER RECOGNIZE HER WHEN SHE'S IN THE ROOM.
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>> ALL RIGHT THE MINUTES WERE PREVIOUSLY SENT OUT BY DAWN. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION?
>> I DO HAVE A CORRECTION. AND I'M SORRYIST -- SORRY I WAS LATE GETTING THOSE OUT. THEY GOT LOST IN E-MAIL.
WE DID A REPORT ON STAFFING CHALLENGES, AND IT SHOWED UP UNDER THE AIR SERVICES AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT UPDATE.
I HAD MOVED THAT TO UNDER THE MANAGEMENT REPORTS.
>> WITH THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THE
MOVING ON TO THE AGENDA. DON, STAT REPORTS.
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>> STATISTICS. LET'S TURN TO THAT PAGE.
THAT'S THE LAST PAGE IN YOUR PACKET.
IN PAYMENTS WERE DOWN 2 #% FOR AMERICAN EAGLE ENVOY.
ON THE MONTHLY CHANGE BUT THEIR NONREVENUE PASSENGERS WERE -- WHICH IS AMERICAN EAGLE EMPLOYEES AMERICAN AIRLINES EMPLOYEE, ESSENTIALLY WAS UP 45%.
THAT WAS -- THEY WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A FEW VACANT SEATS. WE ARE UP YEAR TO DATE WITH A STABLE FLIGHT SCHEDULE AND THE STABLE FLEET OF AIRCRAFT WHICH WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.
12% SOLID GROWTH FOR YEAR TO DATE 2022 OVER '21.
WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN OUR PARKING LOT REVENUE OF 21.6%. THAT WAS A HUGE INCREASE.
WELL, REMEMBER, OCTOBER 1ST, WE INCREASED THE RATES OUT THERE. THAT WAS A GOOD ATTRIBUTION AND GIVES US CHANGE IN REVENUE THAT WE DESPERATELY IMMEDIATE. THAT 21.6% IS A BIG IMPROVEMENT FOR US. RENTAL CARS ARE UP ABOUT 4%, 4.3% FOR THE MONTH AND 4.46% FOR THE YEAR.
NOT A BAD MONTH. >> WHAT GOES UNDER -- FOR
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ABILENE ARROW? YOU GOT PASSENGER AND PAYMENTS AND ABILENE ARROW LISTED THERE.WHAT REPRESENTS -- >> THOSE ARE THE CHARTERS THAT THEY DO WITH THEIR OWN AIRCRAFT AND THEN THE CHARTERS THEY WORK WITH -- THEY COME IN FOR SPORTS TEAMS AND FOR CASINO CHARTERS.
IT'S NOT A LOT. IT'S NOT LIKE REALLY A BIG SPLASH OF OVERALL EMPLOYMENT POND.
BUT IT'S THERE. ALSO OCTOBER WAS THE MONTH WE ROLLED OFF SKYWEST FROM OUR STATISTICS.
THEY WERE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO US LAGGING A LITTLE BIT IN PREVIOUS MONTHS THROUGH EARLIER IN THE YEAR FROM ABOUT JULY OR AUGUST.
WITH AMERICAN STILL GROWING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WE HAVE SKYWEST ON IS THERE. THEY LEFT OCTOBER 1ST OF R'21. NOW THEY ROLL OUT OF OUR STATISTICS EFFECTIVE IN NOVEMBER.
THE NOVEMBER REPORT YOU WON'T SEE SKYWEST.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? >> YOU WANT TO MOVE ON INTO REGULATORY AND LEGISLATIVE ISSUES.
>> YES, ALSO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO PRICING REPORT.
IT'S ON THE PAGE RIGHT BEFORE THAT HAS THE OVERALL STATISTICS. THERE'S BEEN NO IMPROVEMENTS REALLY ON WHAT WE ARE SEEING FROM LAST MONTH AND THE MONTHS PRIOR. THEY ARE HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. WE HAVE -- WE'VE SPOKEN TO AMERICAN ABOUT THAT AND KATE AND I SPOKE TO AMERICAN JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. THEY WEREN'T THE FARE PEOPLE THE REVENUE CONTROL PEOPLE. BUT ANYWAY IT'S IMPACTING THEM. BUT -- WELL, IT'S IMPACTING US, WE THINK. MAYBE THEY WOULD HAVE MORE THAN 14% GROWTH OR SO OR 12% GROWTH IF THEY HAD A LITTLE
BIT BETTER FARE OUT OF HERE. >> WHAT THEIR RESPONSE TO
YOU? >> SO FAR IT'S BEEN VERY VAGUE. AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE REVENUE CONTROL PEOPLE. WE'VE TALKED TO THE PLANNING FOLKS. AND THEY JUST DON'T CONTROL THE FARES. THEY REALLY AREN'T INTERESTED IN THE REVENUE SIDE OF IT.
THEY DON'T CONTROL IT. ALL THEY SEE IS PASSENGERS
FILLING THE AIRCRAFT. >> ARE THEY CHARGING IT
BECAUSE THEY CAN GET IT? >> ABSOLUTELY THEY ARE.
WE ARE NOT THE ONLY MARKET LIKE THAT.
A LOT OF SMALLER MARKETS ARE LIKE THAT.
WE'RE COMPETING VFW AND MIDLAND.
WE HATE TO SEE PEOPLE -- WE GOT GOOD AIR SERVICE HERE JUST EXPENSIVE AIR SERVICE. WE'RE NOT ALONE IN THAT.
ALL RIGHT AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REGULATORY LEGISLATIVE ISSUES UPDATE. AND, AGAIN, NOTHING REALLY HAS CHANGED SINCE WE MET LAST MONTH.
THERE'S NOTHING ON THE HORIZON THAT REALLY HAS US TOO CONCERNED. OF COURSE, WITH A NEW HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES LEADERSHIP COMING ONBOARD IT LOOKS LIKE, WE MIGHT SEE SOME CHANGES IN PRIORITIES AND THE WAY THINGS RELATED TO AVIATION, COMMERCIAL AVIATION IN PARTICULAR ARE APPROACHED. ANYWAY, I'M HEADED TO D.C.
SUNDAY TO MEET WITH OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION ON MONDAY. AND THEN SOME FEDERAL AGENCIES ON TUESDAY TO HELP MAKE THE CASE FOR OUR AGENDA AS FAR AS AIR SERVICE GOES. AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS GO AND LOOKING FOR SOME EXTRA FUNDING BEYOND OUR FAA GRANTS OUR TYPICAL FAA GRANTS.
KIND OF LAYING THE GROUNDWORK FOR GRANT THAT WE APPLIED FOR LAST YEAR FLEW THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. WHICH IS CALLED A RAISE GRANT. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, AGAIN, THIS UPCOMING WHENEVER THEY RELEASE THE NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
AND THEN WE WILL BE SEEKING OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATIONS SUPPORT FOR THAT.
AND THAT WE HAD APPLIED FOR THAT FOR THE ROAD THAT GOES
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THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT AIR B.NORTH OF THE AIRPORT TERMINAL AREA.
ANYWAY THAT'S WHAT REALLY -- AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING LEGISLATIVELY REGULATORY WISE THAT HAS US TOO CONCERNED. WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THE EPA, U.S.-EPA ON THE BE FAST ISSUE.
IT WILL BE WELL INTO THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR BEFORE WE GET ANY KIND OF REGULATORY GUIDANCE IS WHAT IT IS LOOKING LIKE. LOOKS LIKE CHAIR GILL IS NOW
>> YOU'RE DEVELOPING A TREND, I NOTICE.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S WHAT MY WIFE SAYS AS WELL. WE'RE UP TO CURRENT PROJECTS, LARRY. TERMINAL IMPROVEMENT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT BID IN ITEM NO. FIVE.
THE AIRCRAFT CHARGING STATION.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM BETA-TECHNOLOGIES ABOUT THEIR PROPOSAL TO PUT A AIRCRAFT CHARGING STATION AT ABILENE ARROW. CIP NOTHING HAS CHANGED ON THAT YET. BUT WITH THE TERMINAL BID, WE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE SOMETHING ON THAT.
EXTEND SOME TIME AND GRANT OBLIGATIONS FOR THAT.
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
>> PROBABLY ANOTHER YEAR OF DEVOTING MONEY TOWARDS THIS PROJECT IN THE TERMINAL. BASED TOWN BID AWARD THAT WE GOT LAST THURSDAY. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, COMING UP.
FOREST SERVICE RAMP PROJECT. OUR REPRESENTATIVE, TEXAS HOUSE OF HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SAM LAMBERT IS FORGING AHEAD WITH THAT IN A BILL IN THE NEXT SESSION THAT WILL FUND THIS PROJECT.
FUEL FARM RELOCATION. I TALKED WITH THE GENERAL MANAGER AT ABILENE ARROW. THEY ARE GETTING CLOSE.
HE DID NOT WANT TO BRING IT TO THIS BOARD, POSSIBLY DECEMBER TO LOOK AT THEM ENDING THEIR LEASE TO ENCOMPASS NEW AREA OF LAND FOR A NEW ABOVE GROUND FUEL FARM. WE'RE HAVING TO COLLECT THAT FOR THE CUSTOMER FACILITY CHARGE.
IT'S $3 PER CHARGE ON EVERY CAR RENTAL OUT OF THE AIRPORT. AND WE NEED ABOUT TWICE AS MUCH MONEY AS WHAT WE'VE GOT IN THE BANK RIGHT NOW WITH
COLLECTING THAT? >> WE STARTED COLLECTING THAT IN 2000 -- IT MAY HAVE BEEN '70 -- '07.
WE USED THAT FOR THE CAR RENTAL OPERATE FROM.
YOU GO AND PICK UP YOUR RENTAL CAR AND YOU BRING IT BACK TO THAT PARTICULAR LOT. AND SO THE CFC CUSTOMER FACILITY CHARGE PAID OFF THE -- THAT PORTION OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION, THE AIRPORT THE CITY ISSUED FOR PARKING LOT CONSTRUCTION.
THAT WAS PAID OFF A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
BETWEEN 2018 AND 2020. I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHEN. BUT OUR COLLECTIONS SINCE THEN HAVE BEEN ACCUMULATING TO PAY FOR THIS FUTURE FACILITY. IN OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH FUTURE LEASE NEGOTIATIONS WITH CAR RENTAL COMPANIES, WE MAY BE ASKING FOR INCREASE IN THE CFC FEE TO
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GO FROM $3 A DAY TO QUESTION MARK DOLLARS PER DAY TO ACCELERATE THE COLLECTION OF FUNDING FOR IT.>> WHAT ARE THEY DOING NOW? >> SO AVIS CURRENTLY HAS THIS FACILITY ON THE EAST SIDE OF AIRPORT BOULEVARD RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE EASY PARKS FACILITY.
ENTERPRISE GOES OFF AIRPORT. THEY HAVE GOT A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS IN TOWN. THEY ARE USING THOSE OR SOMETHING ELSE. THEY WOULD LIKE TO RELOCATE AND USE THE HERTZ ALL HERTZ FACILITY WHICH IS ACROSS FROM THE AVIS FACILITY TOWN WEST SIDE OF AIRPORT BOULEVARD. BUT ITS KIND OF IN THEIR COURT. WE DID A ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY TO SEE IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS LEFT BY HERTZ AND FROM FUEL SPILLS AND SUCH AND IT CAME BACK CLEAN. WE'RE LEAVING IT IN THEIR HANDS NOW TO COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE READY TO DO THIS. I THINK THEY ARE PROBABLY WAITING UNTIL WE GET INTO NEW LEASE NEGOTIATIONS WHICH WILL PROBABLY START WITH THEM AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. IT'S IN HOLD OVER.
THEIR CURRENT LEASES MEANING THEY HAVE EXPIRED BUT THEY ARE OPERATING UNDER THE SAME TERMS. AND WE WILL HAVE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, PROBABLY REALLY EARLY IN THE NEW YEAR TO GET A NEW LEASE WITH THEM.
THAT'S -- NEXT IS AIR SERVICE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT UPDATE IF YOU ARE READY FOR THAT.
>> GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> YOU LEFT ME TO THE GOOD STUFF. WE'VE JUST BEEN MOVING ALONG AS YOU ALL HEARD IN OUR LAST MEETING WE'RE UPSIZING THE AIRCRAFT. AMERICAN AIRLINES IS GOING TO UP SIZE THE AIRCRAFT TO THE 175 WHICH GIVES US 76 PASSENGERS. IT'S TWO CLASS.
FIRST CLASS AND IT'S JUST A LARGER AIRPLANE.
YOU HAVE OVER HEAD SPACE. MORE THAN YOU EVER HAD BEFORE. YOU CAN STAND IN IT AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. IT'S A LOVELY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. IT HAS HOWEVER DONE WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD DO WHICH IS CHANGE THE FREQUENCY OF OUR SCHEDULE. AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE NATION OR WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS THAT AMERICAN AIRLINES HAS REALLY BASICALLY CUT THEIR ENTIRE SCHEDULE BY 19%. AND WE HAVE BEEN EFFECTED.
AND SO BEGINNING ON NOVEMBER 30TH, WE'RE DOWN TO FOUR FLIGHTS A DAY. IT GOES QUICKLY TO THREE FLIGHTS A DAY IN DECEMBER. WE ARE STILL KEEPING QUITE A WEALTH OF SEATS WITH FOUR A DAY.
WE WERE 8% UP. WITH THE THREE A DAY WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LESS. BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY AT LEAST EVENING OUT WITH -- THE CAPACITY WE'VE BEEN SEEING. THAT'S GOOD.
WE STILL HAVE THE SEATS AVAILABLE, HOWEVER, IT DOES PUT A CRUNCH ON THAT FREQUENCY.
ONE OF THE -- I THINK ONE OF THE LOVE I WILL THINGS ABOUT ABI HAS BEEN OUR FREQUENCY WITH AMERICAN AIRLINES.
BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WERE VERY AS THEY SAY BLESSED. WE ARE COMPARED OTHER MARKETS THAT TRADITIONALLY ONLY HAVE THREE OR FOUR FLIGHTS A DAY. THANKS TO EASY AND THE WORK THEY DO OVER THERE WE SEE NICE ROBUST FREQUENCY.
WE ARE FEELING THE PAIN, I GUESS OF THAT CHANGE, AND SO AS WE -- ON THE MARKETING SIDE, I THINK I VISITED WITH YOU LAST MONTH ABOUT WHAT WE WILL SELL TO THIS CLASS 2 OPPORTUNITY. IT'S A BRAND-NEW AIRPLANE.
IT SMELLS NEW WHEN YOU ARE ON THEM.
THEY ARE COMING OUT BRAZIL AS WE SPEAK START -- THEY STARTED EARLY 2018 CRANKING THEM OUT.
THEY REALLY ARE NEW. WE ARE REALLY GOING TO SELL THAT AS WE KNOW WE CAN. BUT AS YOU SAW ON OUR PRICING GUIDE, IT'S HARD. SO I DID WANT -- DARYN HAD A GREAT QUESTION LAST MONTH. I WAS SOMEWHAT EMBARRASSED I DIDN'T HAVE A REAL NUMBER. I THINK I KNEW BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO TELL STORY. IF YOU RUN THE FEDERAL PERCENTAGE OF YOUR MILEAGE TO DRY TO VFW.
IF YOU WANT TO PARK AT THE TERMINAL LIKE YOU PARKED AT THE TERMINAL IN ABILENE, IT'S $500 ON RELATIVELY SPEAKING FOR SOMEONE TO DO THAT.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE EXTRA TIME IT TAKES BUT AS I MENTIONED IT'S STILL SORT OF A HARD SALE.
WE'RE SEEING AIRFARE $670. I THINK THERE'S -- IT'S A WORTHY CONVERSATION ABOUT YOUR TIME WHEN YOU ARE
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TAKING THAT TRIP. BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING WORKING WITH.WE'RE SORT OF -- IT'S A FLUID PROCESS.
WE ARE SEEING -- FEBRUARY GETS EVEN TOUGHER ON US.
AS WE'VE TALKED MANY TIMES Q-1 IS NOT THE MOST REBUST TRAVEL SEASON FOR ANYBODY. HOTELS ALIKE.
EVERYONE IS SORT DOWN. WE WILL SEE THAT AS WELL.
FEBRUARY WE WILL BE TIGHTER WHERE WE SEE DAYS WHERE THERE'S TWO FLIGHTS A DAY. I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT BE YOU. YOU ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU ARE SPEAKING TO OUR FOLKS.
YOU KNOW IT AND YOU ARE ARMED WITH IT.
BUT LET ME REMIND YOU THAT AMERICANS ARE DOING IT TO EVERYBODY. THERE'S COMMISERATION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THAT.
WE'RE WORKING WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS AND HOW WE WILL SORT OF SELL THIS NEW VERSION OF ABI AND I'M EXCITED. I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD.
>> IS IT TEMPORARY? >> YES, IN MARCH, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN MARCH THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE US BACK TO FIVE FLIGHTS A DAY. IT IS FLUID.
AND THAT IS NOT A PERMANENT SCHEDULE LET.
THE MARCH FLIGHTS. WE TRADITIONALLY SEE IT GO BACK UP FOR SPRING BREAK AND THEN ROLLING INTO THE
SUMMER. >> HOW -- WITH THE ADDITIONAL SEATS ON THE NEW PLANE IF WE LOSE A FLIGHT.
HOW MANY SEATS ARE WE GAINING BACK WITH THE NEW PLANE THAT WE WILL NOT SEE THE DECREASE NECESSARILY?
>> RIGHT. WE'RE MOVING FROM 50 PASSENGER, 76. 25 MORE SEATS EVERY TIME WE GO, WHICH IS TWO AIRLINES. WHEN WE WENT FROM 6 TO 4, THAT WAS -- THAT'S EASY MATH.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME IF YOU WILL.
GETTING DOWN TO THREE MEANS WE WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT LESS. WHAT OUR LOAD FACTORS, OUR OCCUPANCY AND CAPACITY ON EACH AIRPLANE, WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS ABOUT 70% NOW. THAT'S WHERE AMERICAN AIRLINES IS. IN THE GAME, IF YOU WILL IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT WHAT OUR LOADS ARE.
LOOKING AT WHAT THEY NEED IN TERMS OF THEIR PILOTS AND CREWS AND EQUIPMENT. AND IT'S WHAT WE BEEN SAYING FOREVER, AND EVER THEY DON'T HAVE THE HUMANS.
THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM NATIONWIDE.
AND THEY ARE -- THEY ARE DOING IT AT THE HOLIDAY, WHICELLS YOU IT MUST BE DESPERATE.
THAT'S MY HUMAN WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.
WE WILL PERSEVERE THEM. I DO THINK WE WILL GET THEM BACK. WITH TWO FLIGHTS, WHAT WOULD
BE THE TIMES? >> WE SEE THE TWO FLIGHTS REALLY FOR TWO WEEKS IN FEBRUARY.
YOU KNOW, THEY ARE -- IT LOOKED LIKE THEY ARE 6:45 AND NOON. IT'S TWO KIND OF MORNING FLIGHTS. THE GOOD PART -- WHEN WE HEARD ABOUT OUR GOING DOWN TO FOUR FLIGHTS A DAY A MONTH AGO, WE DID CONFER WITH OUR CONSULTANT AND WHAT HE WOULD DO IS A BANK SORT OF A BANK REPORT.
WHICH IS THAT -- HOW MANY FLIGHTS CAN YOU GET ON.
WHEN YOU GET INTO DFW, WHAT IS THAT NEXT SCHEDULE LOOK LIKE? HOW MANY FLIGHTS ARE THERE OUT GOING TO ALL THE PLACES. SORT OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH OF A BURDEN WILL THIS BE ON THE PASSENGERS.
WHAT WE CAN IDENTIFY AS WE HEAR THIS.
THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE DAY, IT'S GOOD BANKS.
THE MORNING AND MIDDAY. WHEN YOU GET INTO DFW, YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF OPTIONS STILL.
AS IT DOES GET LATER IN DAY, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER. OUR INTERNATIONAL PIECE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ONE OF MAYBE THE HARDER ONES TO MATCH WITH. ON THAT SPARCER FREQUENCY OF
THE DAY. >> WHAT WOULD BE RETURNING
THE RETURN FLIGHTS -- IT WILL BE 2 OR 3.
THEY ARE LIKE 11:00, 3:00 AND 10:00.
>> THERE'S STILL THE LATE LAST NIGHT.
WHAT WE ARE SEEING THAT IT'S REDUCTION IN THE OVER NIGHTS ON HOW MANY ARE STAYING WITH US OVER NIGHT.
WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF KEPT A STRONG THREE.
THAT'S REDUCING TO TWO. AND THEN SO FOR TWO WEEKS WHAT WE CAN JUST ASSUME IT MEANS THAT IT'S GOING DOWN TO ONE OVER NIGHT. THAT'S PROBABLY IT.
FEBRUARY IS TECHNICALLY NOT -- I DON'T BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY LIKE A SOLID ONE. A SCHEDULE, IF YOU WILL.
THEY DO LAYERS OF TENTATIVENESS UNTIL THEY MAKE IT PERMANENT. IT'S LOOKING LIKE THAT WHAT
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WE WILL BE EFFECTED BY. >> IT WILL BE AN INTERESTING NEXT THREE MONTHS FOR SURE. AND I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW WHAT KATE IS REFERRING TO WHEN SHE'S SAYING LIKE THE NUMBER OF FLIGHTS PER DAY. SHE'S TALKING ABOUT DEPARTURES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE REQUISITE ARRIVALS TOO.
YOU CAN TAKE THAT NUMBER OF FLIGHTS THAT SHE IS SAYING THE TWO OR THREE AND DOUBLE THAT TO MAKE THE ARRIVAL OR THE ARRIVALS TOO. I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE WE ARE LIVESTREAMED AND OTHER PEOPLE PICK UP ON THAT AND WE DON'T WANT THE MEDIA SAYING, WE WILL HAVE TWO FLIGHTS A DAY. IT'S REALLY FOUR OR FIVE
TOTAL. >> IS THE 70% OCCUPANCY COME ANNUALLY. I MEAN, AVERAGE?
>> NATIONALLY LIKE AN AVERAGE OVERALL?
>> YOU SAID 70%? >> OUR MONTHLY AVERAGE FOR WHAT -- WHAT'S HAPPENING -- WHAT THEY ARE LOADING IS ABOUT 70%. WE'VE SEEN 68.
WE ACTUALLY -- WE GOT FIRMER REPORT IN JULY.
RAN 72.4. >> THE FLIGHTS COMING BACK
IN THE SAME WAY. >> THEY ARE REALLY, REALLY CLOSE. IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR STATISTICS PAGE. YOU WILL SEE ON THE INPAYMENT AT 67%. ON THE DEPLANEMENTS IT'S 75%. THEY ARE NEVER THE SAME.
THEY ARE RARELY THE SAME. THEY ARE REAL CLOSE.
>> DOES THAT COUNT? >> ONLY REVENUE PASSENGERS.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT?
ANYTHING ELSE, KATE? >> NOT AT THIS TIME.
>>CHAIR: ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT STAFFING?
>> DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD FROM WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH. STAFFING HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR US. OUR PART-TIME PARKING LOT ATTENDANCE, AS WELL AS OUR MAINTENANCE WORKERS RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE FILLED BOTH THE MAINTENANCE WORKER POSITIONS AND THE PARKING LOT POSITIONS CURRENTLY.
BUT IT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THE LABOR MARKET IS GOING TO BE A WHILE BEFORE IT CHANGES. YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO BE PREPARED. SOMETHING LIKE THE PARKING LOT, WHICH WE RELY ON PART-TIME EMPLOYEES AND THEY ARE THERE FROM LIKE 9:00 OR 9:30 IN THE MORNING UNTIL THE LAST ARRIVAL. EVEN IF IT'S LATE, THEY STAY. THAT IS TOUGH.
IT'S BEEN TOUGH TO FILL THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
AND FRANKLY, WITH THESE DECREASING FREQUENCIES OF ARRIVALS THAT WE ALL EXPERIENCE, IT'S GOING TO GET TRICKY ON HAVING PARKING ATTENDANTS ON THERE.
THEY MAY ONLY HAVE ONE ARRIVAL TO WORK DURING A SIX-HOUR SHIFT. IT WILL BE -- IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT TRICKY. THAT FLIGHT SCHEDULE TRICKLES DOWN TO DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL LEVELS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. ANYWAY, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT OPTIONS. MAYBE SOMETHING TO AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WHEN HOPEFULLY IT GETS QUIETER IN THE ADMIN OFFICE AND YOU HAVE MORE TIME TO SPEND ON REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR PARKING LOT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WHEN
WE GET SOMETHING DEVELOPED. >>CHAIR: OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? I GUESS YOU COULD ALWAYS ASK THE AIRPORT BOARD TO VOLUNTEER.
>> LET US KNOW, LARRY. >> DOES THAT INCLUDE YOUR
CLEANING SERVICES TOO? >> WELL, OUR CUSTODIANS ARE UNDER ANOTHER CITY DEPARTMENT.
WE GET CHARGED FOR THEIR SERVICES.
WE HAVE BEEN SHORT -- WE'VE HAD THREE CUSTODIAL -- THREE FULL-TIME KA CUSTODIAL POSITIONS ASSIGNED.
THERE'S ONE NOW. WE HAVE VARIOUS FILL-INS FROM WITHIN THE CITY TO COME FILL A SECOND TIME SLOT.
AND THE CITY HAS HAD JUST AWFUL TIME TRYING TO FIND
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CANDIDATES AND QUALIFIED CANDIDATES AND ON TOP OF THAT, THE AIRPORT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT WHILE THEY AREN'T ALL THAT STRINGENT, THEY DO KIND OF INTIMIDATE SOME OF THE APPLICANTS.WE PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION TO CUSTODIAL SERVICES.
THAT WAY THEY CAN MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT APPLYING FOR A POSITION THAT WILL BE AT THE AIRPORT -- WITH ALSO HAVE A BROADER NUMBER OF HOURS TO WORK BECAUSE THE TERMINAL IS OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM ABOUT 4:30 A.M.
UNTIL 11:30, 12:00 A.M. AND HAVING -- WE DON'T HAVE CUSTODIAL COVERAGE NECESSARILY ALL THAT TIME.
BUT SEVEN DAY AS WEEK WHEREAS LIKE CITY HALL.
THEY DON'T NEED CUSTODIAL SERVICES OVER THE WEEKEND OR HOLIDAYS. BUT THE AIRPORT DOES.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO FILL THE POSITIONS.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN HARDER TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS.
BUT NOW IT'S JUST SEEMING IMPOSSIBLE.
>> JUST AS THE GENERAL REFERENCE WHAT THE SCALE?
>> FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW. DO YOU KNOW?
>> SINCE THAT THE HANDLED BY ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT PAY RANGE IN QUITE SOME TIME.
THE CITY HAS DONE A COMPENSATION AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY WITH -- THEY HAD A CONSULTANT HELP OUT WITH THAT TO COMPARE OUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS WITH THE PAY AND WHAT OTHER SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONS ARE PAYING. THE HR DEPARTMENT AND CITY ADMINISTRATION ARE WORKING THROUGH AND THE DIRECTORS WILL SEE THE RESULTS OF THAT AND WE EXPECT SOME CHANGES TO OUR COMPENSATION RANGE FOR A LOT OF POSITIONS.
MAYBE THAT WILL HELP, TOO. >> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT THING FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
>> I LEFT THAT AS STANDING ITEM.
REALLY WE'RE NOT WORKING ON ANYTHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE WILL APPLY FOR THE RAISE GRANT WHEN THAT NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY COMES OUT AGAIN.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'M MEETING WITH DOT AND D.C.
WITH OUR CONSULTANTS NEXT WEEK.
AND WILL BE TALKING ABOUT OUR PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
HOW WE CAN STRENGTHEN THAT AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT APPLICATION.
AGAIN, TRYING TO GET SUPPORT FROM OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATIONS FOR APPLICATIONS TOO.
SHOULD BE IN A BETTER POSITION WHEN THIS NEXT ROUND OF FUNDING FROM RAISE GRANT COMES OUT TO HELP
SUPPORT THAT ROAD. >>CHAIR: I'M NOT SURE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF UPDATE ON THE RESTAURANT?
>> NOTHING OTHER THAN CONJECTURE.
THEY HAVE THEIR GOOD DAYS. YESTERDAY AND TODAY WERE GOOD DAYS. IST -- I WAS TALKING WITH THE MANAGER THERE THIS AFTERNOON.
THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN THEIR BEER AND WINE PERMIT YET.
WHILE GM SAID -- SHE UNDERSTANDS IT IS IN PROCESS. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE NECESSARY SIGNAGE THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT SAYING THIS FACILITY -- THIS ESTABLISHMENT IS HAS APPLIED FOR A BEER/WINE LICENSE. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT GO UP
YET. >>CHAIR: PROBABLY WORTH A
DISCUSSION? >> IT IS A WORTH A DISCUSSION. BUT THEY HAVE BEEN RELIABLE IN OPENING DAILY OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO.
THERE WAS A TIME WHERE THEIR WHOLE CREW SAME DOWN WITH BEING SICK. AND THEY WERE CLOSED A DAY OR TWO DURING THAT PERIOD. SINCE THEN THEY'VE BEEN GOOD ABOUT OPENING ON TIME EVERY DAY.
>>CHAIR: JUST WONDERING THE IMPACT OF THE RESTAURANT
DOWNTOWNS AFFECTING THEM? >> YEAH.
YEAH. THERE WILL BE NOTICEABLE
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IMPROVEMENTS. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN. WHERE IS -- IT LOCATED.>> IT'S AN ITALIAN RESTAURANT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE IMPACT WILL BE TOWN DIMINISHED FLAT
SCHEDULE? >> THAT'S A CONCERN.
IF THEY -- WITH A MORNING DEPARTURE AND WITH ANOTHER DEPARTURE AROUND NOONTIME. THAT SHOULD HAVE THE PASSENGERS THERE -- IT SHOULDN'T CHANGE NECESSARILY. THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT I'M SURE. IT COVERS THE EARLY MORNING BREAKFAST MEALS SERVICE AND THE LUNCH SERVICE.
THAT PROTECTS A GOOD BIT OF TIME WHEN THEY ARE BUSY.
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>>CHAIR: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT COMMITTEES. WE DID NOT HAVE COMMITTEE MEETING IN OCTOBER. THE NEXT ONE IS MARKETING AND DEVELOPMENT. THEN WE'VE GOT FACILITIES COMING UP IN DECEMBER. FACILITIES MEETING IN
[5. Discussion and Action to Award Contract for Terminal Enabling Phase Construction]
NUMBER FIVE. >> NUMBER FIVE I WAS REALLY HOPING WE WOULD HAVE A BID THAT WE COULD RECOMMEND TO YOU TO AWARD TODAY THAT WAS THE WHOLE PLAN.
BUT WE DID BID OPENING LAST THURSDAY.
WE HAD ONE BID. WE HAD FOUR CONTRACTORS, I BELIEVE WHO ATTENDED THE PREBID MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS PRIOR. BUT WE HAD ONE BID THAT ACTUALLIES SUBMITTED. TINARD CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS A LOCAL COMPANY. THEY HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION.
THEY'VE DONE SOME WORK HERE AT CITY HALL AND STILL DO THE WORK HERE AT CITY HALL. ANYWAY, THEIR BID WAS FOR THE BASE BID WHICH IS EVERYTHING THAT WE COUNTED AS ELIGIBLE FOR OUR FAA GRANT FUNDING.
THEYED BY 2.66 MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S ABOVE WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE GRANT FUNDS. AND PUTS A REAL STRETCH ON OUR ABILITY TO FUND THAT EVEN WITH LEFT OVER BOND DOLLARS. WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM.
WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM YESTERDAY.
AND THE ARCHITECT TO TALK ABOUT WAYS THAT WE COULD TRIM THAT SUM. AND CAME UP WITH SOME GOOD ALTERNATIVES THAT WILL KNOCK A LITTLE BIT OFF.
BUT FRANKLY, I WAS EXPECTING ABOUT 1.2 MILLION AS A WORST CASE SCENARIO. I'VE BEEN BURNED BEFORE AND
GOT BURNED THIS TIME TOO. >> WHAT IS THE AMOUNT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THAT PROJECT?
>> WE HAVE 2.2 MILLION DOLLARS IN AIP GRANTS.
THIS YEAR ALONE. BUT THAT WAS TO FUND THE TERMINAL PROJECT ALONG WITH AN ANTICIPATED PURCHASE OF A NEW AIRCRAFT RESCUE FIREFIGHTING TRUCK.
I HAD ALSO WANTED TO FUND THE DESIGN OF THE NEXT PHASE OF THE TERMINAL BUILDING, WHICH IS TO EXPAND THE GATE AREA. BY DOING THAT, BY DESIGNING IT NOW, THEN WE'RE READY FOR NEXT YEAR'S GRANT APPLICATIONS WITH THE FAA WITH A PROJECT THAT IS READY TO GO. READY TO BID.
>> UNLESS I'M MISUNDERSTANDING YOU.
WOULD THERE BE ANY ADVANTAGE TO PIECING ALL OF THAT OUT SO THAT YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TO NOT TRY TO INCLUDE IN THAT PROJECT? AM I MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT
YOU ARE SAYING? >> THE BID THAT WE HAD WAS JUST FOR THE TERMINAL PROJECT WORK WHICH IS PAINTING THE INTERIOR OF THE TERMINAL AND REMODELLING THE DOWNSTAIRS REST ROOMS AND ADDING NEXT TO THE REST ROOMS AN ASSISTED, HANDICAP ASSISTED REST ROOM AND NURSING MOTHER'S ROOM. THAT WAS THE MOST INVOLVED CONSTRUCTION. THE REST OF IT IS PAINTING.
THE REST OF THE TERMINAL -- ANYWAY, IT'S VERY HIGH. IT'S VERY HIGH.
>> THERE'S NO PIECES IN THAT -- YOU REALLY WANT TO KIND OF DO THE WHOLE THING. IF YOU WANT TO DO IT, DO IT
PIECEMEALING. >> TAKE OUT COMPONENTS THEN WE START USING THE BENEFIT OF THE PROJECT.
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OKAY. >> WHAT WAS THE LACK OF INTEREST FROM THE OTHER BIDDER.
>> I CAN'TED ONE LOCAL COMPANY THAT SHOWED UP TO THE PRE-BID MEETING AND HAS DONE WORK AT THE AIRPORT BEFORE. THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY IS ON VACATION THIS WEEK. I TALKED TO ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE. AND I SAID, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THEY'VE GOT GOING ON WAS A CONSIDERATION.
BUT I WILL TALK TO THAT PERSON, AGAIN, NEXT WEEK WHEN HE'S BACK AND SEE SPECIFICALLY FROM HIM WHAT KEPT HIM FROM BIDDING ON THIS.
>> COSTS ARE GOING TO JUST CONTINUE TO GO UP TOO.
>> JUST LIKE THE OLD COURTHOUSE WITHIN SIX MONTHS WENT UP 6 MILLION DOLLARS ON US.
IT'S -- >> I ALSO PLANNED TO TALK TO OUR PROGRAM MANAGER AT FAA. AND HE IS ON VACATION THIS WEEK, TOO. IT'S THE WEEK FOR IT, I GUESS. HE HAD CALLED ME THE DAY OF OUR MEETING ON TUESDAY WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
HE CALLED ME ON MONDAY. AND ABOUT ANOTHER ISSUE AND LEFT A MESSAGE. I CALLED HIM BACK.
AND SAID, HE WAS -- HE TOLD ME THAT MESSAGE I'M GOING ON VACATION TOMORROW. I WILL BE OUT A WEEK.
I CALLED HIM BACK AND SAID PLEASE CALL ME.
I NEED TO TALK TO YOU. I WILL ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE FAA. THEY MAY HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT JUST DIDN'T MAKE THIS PAST YEAR.
THERE COULD BE TURN BACK. IT'S CALLED TURN BACK FUNDS OR GRANT FUNDS THAT WEREN'T USED BY OTHER AIRPORTS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS AN OPTION TOO.
I THINK WE WILL HAVE TO JUST INCREASE OUR FUNDING SOURCES. DO WE JUST NEED TO TABLE
WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION ON IT. I JUST WANTED TO REPORT TO YOU WHERE WE WERE. SINCE IT WAS ALREADY ON THE AGENDA. WE CAN'T -- THERE'S -- I GUESS WE COULD TABLE IT. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TABLE IT. THERE'S JUST NO ACTION.
JUST A REPORT. >> HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE IT READY FOR YOU NEXT MONTH. THE BIDS HAVE TO BE HELD ALTERNATE CURRENT PRICE FOR 60 DAYS.
WE'VE GOT THROUGH DECEMBER. IF WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING IT'S ALWAYS POSSIBLE IF WE ARE CLOSE TO AN AGREEMENT OR SOLUTION FOR THIS.
BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE READY BY DECEMBER 14TH, OR WHATEVER THAT NEXT MEETING DAY IS.
THEN WE WILL ASK FOR A SPECIAL MEETING AND COORDINATE THAT WITH YOU ALL.
THAT IS WHERE WE ARE. >>CHAIR: OKAY.
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>> WE DO NEED EXECUTIVE SECTION.
PURSUANT TO
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