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>> AT THIS TIME, I WILL CALL THE ABILENE BOARD OF BUILDING

[CALL TO ORDER]

STANDARDS, DECEMBER 7, 2022 MEETING TO ORDER.

THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN ANY CASE TODAY SHALL HAVE SIGNED IN AT THE DOOR. IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO, PLEASE DO SO AT THIS TIME. WHILE WE COMPLETE OUR

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PRELIMINARY DUTIES. FIRST ORDER ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ON THE MINUTES. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE NOVEMBER MINUTES, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND OPEN THE FLOOR.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS WRITTEN.

>> SO MOVED. >> MOTION BY MR. ALLRED.

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY MR. SCHROEDER.

THAT THE NOVEMBER MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.

ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >> DR. PARIS?

>> ABSTAIN. >> MR. ALLRED?

>> YES. >> MR. MCBRAYER... MCBRAYER?

>> YES. >> MR. WEBB?

YES. >> MR. TURNER?

>> ABSTAIN. >> MR. SCHROEDER? YES. MR. BEARD?

>> YES. MOTION PASSED.

>> AS A STATEMENT OF POLICY, IN ALL CASES, EXCEPT WHERE SPECIFICALLY STATED OTHERWISE, BUILDINGS MUST BE SECURED AND THE LOT CLEAN AND DONE BY THE OWNER.

IF THIS IS NOT DONE, THE CITY MAY DO SO AND BILL THE OWNER.

THE BOARD ORDERS THE OWNER TO DEMOLISH A STRUCTURE OR SPHRUKTURES, BUT THE OWNER FAILS TO DEMOLISH OR APPEAL THE ORDER, THE CITY MAY DEMOLISH. ANY APPEAL MUST BE FILED IN DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS. AFTER THE AGGRIEVED PARTY RECEIVES NOTICE OF THE BOARD'S DECISION.

AT THE HEARING, YOU SHOULD BE PREPARED TO PRESENT THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION: SPECIFIC TIME FRAME NEEDED TO COMPLETE REPAIRS, SPECIFIC SCOPE OF REPAIR WORK TO BE COMPLETED, AND COST ESTIMATES FOR WORK TO BE DONE BY LICENSED BONDED CONTRACTORS SUCH AS ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, HEATING, AND AIR-CONDITIONING. CONTRACTORS.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO REPRESENT YOU AT THE HEARING. THE RIGHT TO INSPECT THE FILE ON THE PROPERTY AT THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND DEVELOP SERVICES PRIOR TO THE HEARING. AND THE RIGHT TO REQUEST THE PRESENCE OF CITY STAFF FOR THE PURPOSES OF QUESTIONING AT THE HEARING. ALL WHO WANT TO TESTIFY HERE TODAY, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR AND AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU SHALL GIVE TODAY IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

[A. Case for Rehabiliation, Demolition, or Civil Penalties - Case# 21-004566: 1018 ORANGE ST. (3 204 4-B HUGHES OT ABL, TAYLOR COUNTY, TEXAS), Owner: BORDEN, ROLAND INC.]

>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I GUESS MR. MARES,

WE ARE READY FOR OUR FIRST CASE. >> GOOD MORNING.

JOSH MARES, THE CODE OFFICER FOR THE COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT DIVISION PROGRAM. TODAY WE HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE CASES ON OUR AGENDA. THIS WAS OUR PUBLIC NOTICE THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED FOR TODAY'S MEETING.

THE FIRST CASE IS CASE NUMBER 21-004566, ADDRESS LOCATED AT 1018 ORANGE STREET. THE CHECKLIST FOR THE RECORD SHOWS A WARRANTY DEED NAMING ROLAND BORDEN INCORPORATED AS THE OWNERS. TAYLOR COUNTY SHOWS ROLAND BORDEN INCORPORATED TO BE THE OWNER.

THE SECRETARY OF STATE SHOWS THAT ENTITY WAS FORFEITED AS OF JANUARY 15, 2021 UNDER THIS N NAME.

THE TAX RECORDS ARE NOT APPLICABLE.

UTILITY RECORDS ARE INACTIVE SINCE APRIL 2022.

THE SEARCH REVEALS ROLAND BORDEN INCORPORATED TO BE THE OWNER.

THE PUBLIC NOTICE POSTED ON THE STRUCTURE FOR TODAY'S HEARING.

THIS IS THE FRONT EAST SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE REAR WEST SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

NORTH SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE. AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE

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STRUCTURE. UPON INITIAL INSPECTION, THESE WERE THE SUBSTANDARD CODE VIOLATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.

INADEQUATE SANITATION, STRUCTURAL HAZARDS, NUISANCE, HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL WIRING, FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION.

STRUCTURAL HAZARD IDENTIFIED THROUGHOUT... WHEN THE STRUCTURE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME RAFTER BEAMS THAT ARE DETERIORATED AND ROTTED. IN SEVERAL AREAS OF THE ROOF AS WELL. I'M SORRY.

THE VIOLATION OF FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION AS WELL.

THE NUISANCE DILAPIDATION VIOLATION AND MORE FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTIONS. YOU HAVE A WINDOW THAT IS COMPLETELY BUSTED OUT AND EXPOSED WITH NO WEATHER PROTECTION. HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL WIRING.

ELECTRICAL WHERE WIRES ARE EXPOSED.

INADEQUATE SANITATION. YOU CAN SEE THE FACILITIES WHERE SANITATION AREAS INSIDE THE STRUCTURE ARE NOT BEING PROPERLY MAINTAINED. NUISANCE VIOLATIONS IN THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE. YOU HAVE SOME COLLAPSED CEILING AREAS AS WELL AS WALLS. YOU CAN SEE THERE IS SOME PEOPLE INSIDE THAT MIGHT HAVE BROKEN IN AND DONE SOME INAPPROPRIATE GRAFFITI. HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL WIRING IN THE INTERIOR. SOME AREAS WHERE THERE IS LOOSE AND EXPOSED WIRES. AND SOME MORE FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION, MORE AREAS THROUGHOUT THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE AS WELL WHERE THERE IS WINDOWS THAT ARE SHATTERED OR BROKEN. AND WITH THE MORE RECENT PHOTOS, WE WERE ABLE TO ADD ANOTHER SUB STANNARD VIOLATION THAT WAS IDENTIFIED. HAZARDOUS PLUMBING.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME AREAS IN THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE WHERE THERE IS EXPOSED AND OPEN, SOME DRAINS, PVC LINES, STUFF LIKE THAT. THE TIMELINE OF EVENTS, THIS PROPERTY WAS CONDEMNED IN NOVEMBER O.2021.

DECEMBER 2, 2021. THE AFFIDAVIT WAS FILED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK. THE INITIAL NOTICE WAS SENT ON DECEMBER 7. WE SPOKE TO THE OWNER.

HE STATED HE WAS INTENDING TO REPAIR THE STRUCTURE AND THEN SELL IT. HE DID CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY.

HE DID SECURE THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

ON JANUARY 31, 2022, THE OWNER ARRIVED TO CITY HALL AND CLAIMED HE HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY MAIL. THERE WAS CONFIRMATION THAT IT WAS RECEIVED ON THE 14TH. HE DID RECEIVE A GENERAL REPAIR LIST, AND HE WAS TOLD THAT IT DID REQUIRE A PERMIT TO DO THE WORK. THE OWNER STATED IT... IT WAS HIS INTENT TO SELL. HE REQUESTED A 30-DAY EXTENSION.

FEBRUARY 11, 2022, THE OWNER WAS REQUESTING TO HAVE THE WATER METER RELEASED. HE WAS INFORMED THAT NO UTILITIES COULD BE RELEASED UNTIL THE STRUCTURE WAS BROUGHT UP TO CODE. MARCH 10, 2022, THE OWNER CAME IN WITH AN ELECTRICAL ESTIMATE. THE PLAN OF ACTION.

AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT WAS ISSUED TO THE OWNER ON MARCH 11.

THE PERMIT TECHNICIANS EXPIRED THE ELECTRICAL PERMIT DUE TO LACK OF PROGRESS FROM THE OWNER. NO INSPECTIONS WERE EVER REQUESTED BY THE OWNER OR A CONTRACTOR.

ON NOVEMBER 16 OF 2022, STILL NO RECORD OF SALE AND NO ADDITIONAL CONTACT FROM THE OWNER. NOVEMBER 18, 2022, WE SENT NOTICE FOR THE HEARING. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ORDER THE OWNER TO REPAIR, 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE A PLAN OF ACTION, INCLUDING A TIME FRAME FOR REPAIR AND COST ESTIMATES AND OBTAIN ALL PERMITS. IF THIS IS DONE, 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN INSPECTIONS. IF THIS IS DONE, ALL FINAL INSPECTIONS SHALL BE COMPLETED BY THE EXPIRATION OF ALL

PERMITS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> MR. MARES, YOU INDICATED THAT THE ENTITY WAS FORFEITED FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE. I DON'T EVER REMEMBER HEARING THAT TERM BEFORE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD COMPLICATE ANY DECISION WE MADE TODAY?

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERM. >> SOUNDS LIKE A LEGAL QUESTION.

>> I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT EITHER.

SO... >> SO FROM WHAT I GATHERED ON THE INFORMATION FROM THE SECONDK HASEK AIR THE OF STATE, IT BASICALLY IS STATING THAT THE LLC OR THE ENTITY THAT IT WAS OPERATING UNDER CAN NO LONGER BE USED AS A TAXABLE... FOR TAX

PURPOSES. >> OKAY.

BUT THERE IS STILL... THEY ARE STILL RECOGNIZED AS THE OWNER?

>> THAT NAME, YES, SIR. UNDER THAT NAME, THEY ARE STILL

RECOGNIZED AS THE OWNER. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. MARES.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER 21-004566. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR

THE RECORD. >> YES.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ROLAND BOARDEN.

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I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. AND... WHAT IS YOUR ADDRESS, MR

BORDEN? >> MY PERMANENT ADDRESS IS 2286 HIGHLAND AVENUE. I HAVE OWNED A FEW PROPERTIES.

I BOUGHT THIS ONE SEVERAL YEARS BACK, AND I HAVE ACTUALLY, I HAD SOME PEOPLE GO IN THERE AND SQUAT ON THE PROPERTY.

I HAD IT IN THE PROCESS OF BEING SOLD FROM A COMPANY OUT OF ARIZONA. AND THESE PEOPLE THAT I WAS...

IT TURNED INTO A SMALL NIGHTMARE.

THEN I HAD TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING... HAVING THEM REMOVED. THROUGH THE LEGAL ACTIONS AND STUFF. THEY TOOK OUT THE HOT WATER HEATER. THEY TOOK OUT THE COMMODE.

THEY DID A PRETTY GOOD WRECKING JOB ON THE INSIDE.

ANYWAY, I GOT SOME CONTAINERS FROM Y'ALL.

I FILLED UP THE CONTAINERS. I GOT ALL THE STUFF HAULED OFF.

IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. I CALLED THE ELECTRICIAN SEVERAL TIMES. I PAID MY MONEY FOR THE PERMIT.

FOR WHATEVER REASON, I COULD NEVER GET HIM TO PERFORM HIS DUTIES. I HAVE MR. WATSON COMING TOMORROW. AND STUFF.

WE ARE GOING TO BE ON THE ELECTRICAL.

THEY REMOVED A SWITCH. THERE IS SEVERAL LIGHTS OR CEILING FANS THAT THEY TOOK OFF. AND WE ARE GOING TO GET THOSE REPLACED. AND GET THE ELECTRICAL STUFF.

THEY HAULED OFF THE HOT WATER HEATER.

WE WILL HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY TO COME IN TO HOOK IT UP.

WE WILL HAVE TO TURN THE GAS ON. AND THE CITY TO TURN THE WATER ON, I GUESS, TO INSPECT THE PLUMBING.

THE WATER PRESSURE AND STUFF. ACTUALLY, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS READY TO MOVE IN THERE YESTERDAY.

AND THEY HAVE THEIR MONEY TO PUT DOWN AND EVERYTHING.

AND SO I KNOW... I TOLD THEM IT CAN BE SOLD AS IS.

THEY WANT ME TO GET IT, YOU KNOW, UP WHERE THEY CAN GO INTO IT. WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT IS KIND OF WHERE, WHERE I AM. THAT IS WHAT I'M DOING TODAY.

AND TOMORROW. AND THE NEXT DAYS UNTIL I GET

THIS DEAL DONE. >> WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR THE STRUCTURAL DEFISHESSIES? DEFICIENCIES?

>> WELL, THE STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCIES, I'M NOT, FOR SURE, WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. THERE IS AN INSIDE WHERE THEY HAD TAKEN OFF SOME SHEETROCK. THE ROOF IS GOOD.

THE SIDES ARE GOOD. THERE IS ONE SIDE ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE WE HAD A HAILSTORM... IT IS WOOD ON THE FRONT.

ON THREE SIDES OF THE BACK. THE PORCH... THE PREVIOUS OWNERS HAD PUT SIDING ON THE NORTH SIDE.

I GUESS THAT WAS TEN YEARS AGO. WE HAD SOME HAIL STORM OF SOME SORT. THERE WAS SOME HAIL WHERE THE SIDING HAD BEEN DAMAGED. I'M PLANNING ON... EITHER THEY ARE, LIKE I SAID, I'M KIND OF SELLING IT TO THEM.

AS IS. THAT SIDING CAN BE REPAIRED IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. AS FAR AS STRUCTURAL.

>> YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION HERE?

>> YES, SIR. I AM.

>> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. BORDEN? THANK YOU, MR. BORDEN.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ON CASE NUMBER 21-004566. YOU HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU THERE? THE OWNER IS...

SEEMS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

>> FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> MOTION BY MR. MCBRAYER.

THAT THE OWNER IS ORDERED TO REPAIR, 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE A PLAN OF ACTION, INCLUDING A TIME FRAME FOR REPAIR AND COST ESTIMATES TO OBTAIN ALL PERMITS. IF THAT IS DONE, 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN INSPECTIONS. IF THAT IS DONE, ALL FINAL INSPECTIONS SHALL BE COMPLETED BY THE EXPIRATION OF ALL PERMITS. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND IT. >> SECOND BY MR. WEBB.

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ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> MR. MARES, WOULD YOU SHOW US THE STRUCTURAL PICTURES AGAIN, PLEASE? IN PARTICULAR, I WAS INTERESTED IN THE ROOF.

IS THAT THE INSIDE OR THE OUTSIDE? IS THAT A PORCH? IS THAT THE INSIDE OF THE

STRUCTURE WITH THE ROOF? >> THAT APPEARS TO BE A CAR PORT TYPE THING. LIKE A LITTLE...

MAYBE AN ADDITION. >> OKAY.

WOULD YOU SHOW US SOME OTHER STRUCTURAL PICTURES, PLEASE?

>> THAT IS IN THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE.

>> OKAY, YEAH. >> OKAY.

AGAIN, THAT WOULD STILL BE THE CARPORT TYPE.

THAT IS NOT... >> YEAH.

THAT IS IN THE REAR. >> OKAY.

>> OF THE STRUCTURE. >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER STRUCTURAL PICTURES? >> NO, SIR.

>> OKAY. >> THOSE WERE THE MAIN ONES OF PRIMARY CONCERN THAT WE IDENTIFIED.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> THE MOTION THAT IS ON THE FLOOR, DOES THAT INCLUDE THAT

THOSE ITEMS WILL BE REPAIRED? >> YES, SIR.

ANY TIME... WITH THE 30-60, IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A GENERAL PERMIT TO BE PULLED FOR ALL THE COMPONENTS.

YOUR STRUCTURE, YOUR PLUMBING, ELECTRICITY.

ANY MECHANICAL WORK IF HE CHOOSES TO GO THAT ROUTE.

THAT IS ALL GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE PULLED UNDER THAT PERMIT.

AND TO BE INSPECTED WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME.

>> OKAY. I HAVE... I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INSIDE CEILING, OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE SOME LEAKS. ONE WOULD ASSUME.

LOOKING AT. THAT THERE REALLY WASN'T... EVEN THOUGH MR. BORDEN INDICATED HE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, THERE REALLY WAS NOT A STATEMENT ABOUT FIXING OR A SPECIFIC PLAN ABOUT FIXING THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES.

THE 30-60-90 WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE A SPECIFIC PLAN TO FIX THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES AS WELL. BECAUSE THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE, WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO TO FIX THE ELECTRIC AND TUSH THE POWER ON... TURN THE POWER ON IF YOU HAVE WATER LEAKS?

>> YES. THAT IS CORRECT.

WITH THE 30-60, A PLAN OF ACTION IS REQUIRED.

ON THAT PLAN OF ACTION, THERE IS FOUR SECTIONS FOR EACH CONTRACTOR TO FILL OUT. WE WON'T ACCEPT MR. WATSON TYPICALLY DOESN'T APPROVE A PLAN OF ACTION UNLESS ALL FOUR SECTIONS ARE FILLED OUT BY A LICENSED AND CERTIFIED

CONTRACTOR. >> OKAY.

>> THAT WOULD REQUIRE HIM GETTING AN ESTIMATE FROM A STRUCTURAL CONTRACTOR, AN ELECTRICIAN, A PLUMBER, AND IF HE CHOOSES TO GO WITH, LIKE, A MECHANICAL UNIT, A.C. UNIT, THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE MECHANICAL CONTRACTOR AS WELL.

>> OKAY. BECAUSE MY GUESS... MY QUESTION IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PRIORITY LIST, WOULDN'T THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES BE FIRST, RATHER THAN THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES?

>> YES. THAT IS CORRECT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> LET ME JUST SAY THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE BOARD CLEARLY HAS UNDERSTOOD THE COMPLETENESS OF THIS PRESENTATION, I GUESS, FROM STAFF, IN THAT DID THE OWNER SUBMIT THINGS PROPERLY? I MEAN, IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU

WEREN'T GETTING COMMUNICATIONS. >> YEAH.

THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF... THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISCOMMUNICATION THERE INITIALLY.

TO WHERE THE OWNER... LIKE, WHY HE ONLY RE-SUBMITTED THE PAPERWORK AND JUST RECEIVED AN ELECTRICAL APPOINTMENT.

HOWEVER, WITH THAT, WE DID ALLOW HIM TO SEE WHAT KIND OF PROGRESS HE WOULD MAKE ON THAT ELECTRICAL PERMIT.

DUE TO THAT ELECTRICAL PERMIT NOT HAVING ANY PROGRESS AT ALL, THAT IS WHY WE ALSO MOVED FORWARD, BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE ELECTRICAL PERMIT, THERE WAS STILL NO SIGNS OF THERE BEING ANY REPAIRS DONE TO THE PROPERTY.

>> OKAY. BUT YOU AND VAN AND OTHERS ARE ONBOARD WITH HIS COMMUNICATIONS AND HIS PLAN OF ACTION.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE DIDN'T HEAR HE HAD A PLAN OVER ACTION

AT ALL. >> WELL, NO.

WE ARE GOING TO NEED A NEW PLAN OF ACTION.

A PLAN OF ACTION TYPICALLY IS ONLY GOOD FOR 90 DAYS.

NOW, WITH THE INITIAL PLAN OF ACTION THAT HE...

>> I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO GIVE HIM ANOTHER SHOT AT THE 30-60.

EVEN THOUGH YOU INITIATED THE WHOLE PROCESS WITH THE 30-60.

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AND HE HAD ISSUES WITH PEOPLE IN AND OUT OR WHATEVER.

FROM THIS ASPECT, OUR MOTION AND OUR SECOND, WE ARE KIND OF HAVING A DISCUSSION HERE AT THE END OF ALL OF THIS.

BUT YOU GUYS ARE ONBOARD WITH WHAT YOU ARE EXPECTING FROM HIM.

HE UNDERSTANDS... THE OWNER UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S EXPECTED OF HIM. YOU BELIEVE THAT.

>> WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF HIM.

WE HOPE HE UNDERSTANDS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF HE DOESN'T, I MEAN, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR.

>> OKAY. >> TO EXPLAIN IT.

>> THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHERS? >> I HEARD THAT YOU WANTED TO SELL IT AS IS. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.

OUR INSTRUCTIONS NEED TO BE CLARIFIED.

IT CAN'T BE SOLD AS IS. IT HAS TO BE REPAIRED ACCORDING

TO WHAT THE MOTION IS. >> WELL, THEY ACTUALLY... I KNOW TO SOME EXTENT, SELLING IT CAN BE... THEIR PLAN COULD BE TO SELL IT. IF IT IS SOLD, THEN THE STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE NEW OWNER TO CONTINUE THE REPAIRS AND WHATEVER STATE IT IS. SO EVERYTHING YOU ARE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE, AND IF THAT PASSES, THEN STAFF WILL THEN MOVE TO THEN ADDRESS ALL OF THE THINGS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

BECAUSE OF THESE THINGS... BECAUSE ALL OF THESE THINGS, ALL OF THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WOULD BE ANSWERED BETWEEN... THAT STAFF COULD PROCEED AND WORK WITH THE OWNER ON IF THIS MOTION PASSES. THIS MOTION IS JUST AN ORDER FROM... IF IT PASSES, IT IS AN ORDER FROM THE BOARD THAT ALLOWS STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE WITH THE DIRECTION OF THIS BOARD TO REQUIRE THE OWNER TO DO THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. CURRENTLY.

>> THANK YOU. >> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> DR. PARIS? >> NO.

>> MR. ALLRED? >> YES.

>> MR. MCBRAYER? >> YES.

>> MR. WEBB? >> YES.

>> MR. TURNER? >> YES.

>> MR. SCHROEDER? >> YES.

>> MR. BEARD? >> YES.

[B. Case for Rehabiliation, Demolition, or Civil Penalties - Case# 22-002607: 258 ROSS AVE. (CHRISTIAN COLLEGE 2ND ADDN, BLOCK 9, LOT S/2 OF 11 & 12, TAYLOR COUNTY, TEXAS), Owner: PENA, SANDRA]

>> MOTION PASSED. >> GOOD LUCK, MR. BORDEN.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> NEXT CASE, PLEASE. >> ALL RIGHT.

NEXT CASE IS CASE NUMBER 22- 22-002607.

LOCATED AT 258 ROSS AVENUE. THE CHECKLIST FOR THE RECORD SHOWS A SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED NAMING SANDRA PENA AS THE OWNER.

TAYLOR COUNTY SHOWS SANDRA PENA TO BE THE OWNER.

SECRETARY OF STATE SHOWS NO ENTITY UNDER THIS NAME.

TAX RECORDS OF THE MUNICIPALITY ARE NOT APPLICABLE.

UTILITY RECORDS SHOW TO BE INACTIVE SINCE DECEMBER OF 2021.

THE SEARCH REVEALS SANDRA PENA TO BE THE OWNER.

THIS IS A PUBLIC NOTICE POSTED ON THE STRUCTURE FOR TODAY'S HEARING. HERE IS THE FRONT EAST SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE. AND THE REAR WEST SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE. THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

UPON INSPECTION, THIS WAS A SUB STANNARD CODE VIOLATION IDENTIFIED. INADEQUATE SANITATION, NUISANCE, HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL WIRING, HAZARDOUS PLUMBING, FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION, AND INADEQUATE EXITS.

THIS IS A NUISANCE AND FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION VIOLATION IDENTIFIED FOR DILAPIDATION. AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME WINDOWS ARE BROKEN AND EXPOSING THE WEATHERIZATION.

FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION, AGAIN, AS YOU CAN TELL THROUGH THE VENT RIGHT THERE ON THE SIDE.

THERE IS A HOLE IN THE ROOF THAT IS VERY NOTICEABLE.

INADEQUATE SANITATION. THIS IS THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE. YOU SEE THE AREAS OF SANITATION IS NOT BEING PROPERLY MAINTAINED.

REST ROOM AREAS. HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL WIRING.

YOU HAVE A LIGHT FIXTURE THAT IS HANGING WITH EXPOSED WIRES.

HAZARDOUS PLUMBING. OFF DISCONNECTED DRAIN THERE.

COMPLETELY EXPOSED AND OPEN. INADEQUATE EXITS.

YOU HAVE AREAS OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE.

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WE DID HAVE TO SECURE AS WELL, NOT ALLOWING PROPER ENTRY OR EXITWAYS. SO WE HAVE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT TIME ON THIS ONE. THIS WAS STARTED ON MAY 5 OF 2022. NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE OWNER FOR THAT DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE VIOLATION.

ON MAY 18, WE RECEIVED A REPORT FROM APD ABOUT AN ARREST BEING MADE AT THE PROPERTY. ON JUNE 10 OF 2022, A COMPLAINT WAS RECEIVED FOR THE STRUCTURE BEING SEVERELY DILAPIDATED.

AND A TENT BEING SET UP IN THE BACKYARD.

ON JUNE 16, WE SENT CERTIFIED MAIL TO THE OWNERS.

ON JUNE 21, AN ATTEMPT WAS MADE TO CONTACT THE OWNER.

HOWEVER, IT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL. THE OWNER HAS NOT REACHED OUT TO THE CITY ALSO REGARDING THE NOTICES THAT WE SENT OUT.

ON JUNE 21, STAFF DID MEET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THE ADDRESS. SHE DID LET STAFF KNOW THAT SHE LIVES THE WITH HER HUSBAND. AND SHE HAD LET OTHER PEOPLE STAY THERE OVER THE YEARS. AND SHE WAS LETTING SOMEBODY STAY IN THE TENT IN THE BACKYARD.

SHE DID ALLOW STAFF TO DO A WALK-THROUGH OF THE PROPERTY.

CONDITIONS WERE FOUND TO BE VERY UNSANITARY, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF OTHER VIOLATIONS AS WELL IDENTIFIED.

ON JUNE 23, PROVIDED THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH INFORMATION FOR RESOURCES ON ASSISTANCE TO REPAIR THE STRUCTURE.

ON JULY 7, THE PROPERTY OWNER STATED SHE DID AN APPLICATION WITH SOME OF THE RESOURCE THAT IS WERE PROVIDED.

STAFF DID TRY TO VERIFY THAT. JULY 11, WE RECEIVED MORE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PROPERTY FOR NUISANCE.

ON AUGUST 1, WE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT ABOUT SQUATTERS LIVING IN THE HOME. ON AUGUST 4, ANOTHER RESOURCE WAS OFFERED TO THE OWNER TO LOOK INTO FOR ASSISTANCE.

ON SEPTEMBER 7 OF 2022, THE ABILENE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE MARSHALS DIVISION RESPONDED TO A CALL REGARDING A DISPUTE BETWEEN THE OWNER AND SOME OCCUPANTS STAYING AT THE PROPERTY. THE OCCUPANTS WERE TOLD AT THE TIME THEY WERE GOING TO BE EVICTED.

ON SEPTEMBER 19, 2022, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD BEEN STAYING AT ANOTHER RESIDENCE FOR AN UNKNOWN PERIOD OF TIME.

DURING THIS TIME, AT LEAST SINCE THE 17TH OF AUGUST, WE WERE INFORMED THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER'S SON AND HIS WIFE HAD BEEN STAYING AT THE RESIDENCE. AND TODAY... ON THAT DATE, THE SON AND HIS WIFE WERE BEING EVICTED, AND THE PROPERTY WAS INFORMED THAT DUE TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY IT WAS NOT HABITABLE. NOBODY COULD LIVE IN IT.

ON THE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 19, THAT IS THE DATE THAT THE PROPERTY WAS OFFICIALLY CONDEMNED.

AND THE AFFIDAVIT WAS FILED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK.

ON SEPTEMBER 22, WE SENT THE INITIAL NOTICE OF CONDEMNATION WITH THE PLAN OF ACTION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.

SEPTEMBER 26 OF 2022, WE SPOKE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER BY PHONE.

AND WE ASSISTED THE OWNER INTO GETTING A PLAN OF ACTION TOGETHER AND TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED FOR OBTAINING A PERMIT OCTOBER 10, THE PROPERTY OWNER CALLED AND ASKED SEVERAL TIMES IF SHE COULD PUT AN R.V. ON THE LOT OR IF SHE COULD LI IT IN.

AGAIN, SHE WAS INFORMED THAT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

SHE WAS EXPLAINED HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS.

SHE STATED SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY RESOURCE OR MEANS TO REPAIR THE HOUSE. SHE WAS INFORMED THAT SELLING IT WOULD BE AN OPTION BECAUSE SHE WAS INQUIRING ABOUT... YOU KNOW, IF SHE WAS ABLE TO SELL IT. ON OCTOBER 11, WE RECEIVED A CALL SHEET FROM THE ABILENE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND ALSO WE WERE INFORMED THAT THERE WAS A COMPLAINT OF AN R.V.

BEING PUSHED BEHIND THE HOUSE. I THINK LATER, IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE R.V. WAS REMOVED. ON OCTOBER 12, 2022, THE PROPERTY WAS SENT FOR AN EMERGENCY SECUREMENT BY THE CITY. CODE OFFICERS DID INSPECT THE INSIDE TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR OF ANYBODY.

DISCOVERED CONDITIONS THAT STILL CONTINUED TO BE HAZARDOUS AND UNSANITARY. ON NOVEMBER 18, 2022, WE DID SEND NOTICE FOR TODAY'S HEARING. TO THE OWNER.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ORDER THE OWNER TO REPAIR, 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE A PLAN OF ACTION.

INCLUDING A TIME FRAME FOR REPAIR AND COST ESTIMATES.

AND TO OBTAIN ALL PERMITS. IF THIS IS DONE, 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN INSPECTIONS. IF THIS IS DONE, ALL FINAL INSPECTIONS SHALL BE COMPLETED BY THE EXPIRATION OF ALL

PERMITS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MARES?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES, SIR.

>> HAVE WE EVER SEEN THIS BEFORE?

S IN DILAPIDATION PROCESS? >> NO, SIR.

WE TYPICALLY DON'T BRING CASES THAT ARE DILAPIDATED INTO THIS

PROGRAM. >> I UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> THERE REALLY SEEMS TO BE A CIRCUS OF EVENTS RELEVANT TO...

RELEVANT TO THIS PROPERTY. I CAN UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY THAT

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DOESN'T UNDERSTAND IN TERMS OF THE HOME OWNER, HOW THINGS EVOLVE AND THEY CAN GET INTO A SCENARIO OF THE PROPERTY'S CONDITION. SO I GUESS HAVE YOU HAD CLEAR AND CONCISE UNDERSTANDING, COMMUNICATION WITH THE OWNER? WHEN THE PROPERTY IS CONDEMNED, IT IS THE PROPERTY.

IT IS NOT THE STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY.

THAT IS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING WITH THE TENTS IN THE BACKYARD AND THE R.V. THEY CLEARLY AREN'T GETTING THE MESSAGE, AND IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN GOING ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND FOR A YEAR WITH THESE PEOPLE.

I SEE NO EVIDENCE OF THEM BEING PRESENT TODAY.

DO YOU, DO YOU REALLY THINK THIS ONE IS GOING TO NOT COME BACK TO US? OR DO YOU REALLY THINK IT IS GOING TO END UP BEING... I KNOW WE HAVE A PROTOCOL AND THE THINGS THAT WE CUSTOMARILY DO TO GIVE THE BENEFIT OF DOUBT AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND HAVING THE POLICE INVOLVEMENT AND THE PHONE CALLS, EVIDENTLY, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE THEIR EYE ON EVERYTHING GOING ON HERE.

SO DO YOU REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS HAS POTENTIAL FOR A 30-60?

>> MR. SCHROEDER, STAFF CANNOT COMMENT ON THAT QUESTION.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. I'LL JUST LET MY COMMENT FALL ON DEAF EARS, THEN. Y'ALL FORGET EVERYTHING I JUST

SAID. >> WELL, EVEN THOUGH... MY OPINION IS SHE STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO SELL IT REGARDLESS OF WHAT HER PAST ACTIONS... AND OUR ACTIONS TODAY MIGHT MOTIVATE HER TO SPEED THAT PROCESS ALONG. IF SHE DOESN'T DO IT, THEN WE CAN TAKE MORE DRASTIC ACTION. BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE SEEN IT. I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED IT TOOK SO LONG TO CONDEMN THE PROPERTY FROM THE DILAPIDATED STATUS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES OF THE STAFF IS ABOUT THAT, BUT...

>> TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE AT THE TIME, THE OWNER WAS CURRENTLY LIVING IN IT. IF THE OWNER IS LIVING IN THE

PROPERTY, THAT IS WHY. >> YEAH.

>> IT WAS... IT WASN'T UNTIL WE GOT CONFIRMATION THAT SHE WAS NO LONGER LIVING THERE AND THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE STAYING THERE WERE STAYING THERE WITHOUT PERMISSION.

>> OKAY. THAT IS TRADITIONAL.

THE STAFF POSITION, AS LONG AS SOMEBODY IS LIVING THERE, THEY

WON'T CONDEMN IT. >> YES, SIR.

WE TRY NOT TO PUT PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES.

WE TRY TO ASSIST THEM AS WE DID WITH HER.

WE OFFERED RESOURCES AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER OPTIONS FOR HER TO TRY TO GET IT REPAIRED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MARES? AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER 22-002607.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ON CASE 22-002607. AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR

DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD SHARE YOUR CONCERN BECAUSE I'M THOROUGHLY UNDERWHELMED BY THIS OWNER'S INVOLVEMENT, COMMUNICATION, AND ACTIONS.

HOWEVER, AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED NUMEROUS TIMES IN THE LAST YEAR, THE FIRST TIME WE SEE A PRO PROPERTY, WE TYPICALLY DO TRY TO GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT THROUGH THE 30-60-90, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ORDER THE OWNER

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TO REPAIR, 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE A PLAN OF ACTION, INCLUDING A TIME FRAME FOR REPAIR AND COST ESTIMATES AND OBTAIN ALL PERMITS. IF THIS IS DONE 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN INSPECTIONS. IF THIS IS DONE, ALL FINAL INSPECTIONS SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE EXPIRATION OF ALL

PERMITS. >> MOTION BY DR. PARIS THAT THE OWNER IS ORDERED TO REPAIR. AND THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE A PLAN OF ACTION, INCLUDING A TIME FRAME FOR REPAIR AND COST ESTIMATES. AND OBTAIN ALL PERMIT.

IF THAT IS DONE 60 DAYS, TO OBTAIN ROUGH INSPECTIONS.

IF THAT IS DONE, ALL FINAL INSPECTIONS SHALL BE COMPLETED BY THE EXPIRATION OF ALL PERMITS.

>> I SECOND THAT MOTION. >> SECOND BY MR. ALLRED.

ANY FURTHER COMMENT? ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> DRF PARSERY. >> AYE.

>> MR. ALLRED? >> YES.

>> MR. MCBRAYER? >> YES.

>> MR. WEBB? >> YES.

>> MR. TURNER? >> YES.

>> MR. SCHROEDER? >> NO.

>> MR. BEARD? >> YES.

[C. Case for Retaabitiation, Demolition, or Civil Penalties - Case# 22-002969: 1102 MONROE ST. (COLLEGE DRIVE REPLAT, BLOCK 19, LOT 19 (JC REESE REP), TAYLOR COUNTY, TEXAS), Owner: HARRISON, DAVID]

>> MOTION PASSED. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT CASE, PLEASE. >> ALL RIGHT.

OUR FINAL CASE IS CASE NUMBER 22-002969.

LOCATED AT 102 MONROE STREET. ... 1102 MONROE STREET.

OUR CHECKLIST SHOWS THE COUNTY RECORDS WITH THE WARRANTY DEED NAMING DAVID HARRISON AS THE OWNER.

TAIL YOUR COUNTY SHOWS DAVID HARRISON TO BE THE OWNER.

THE SECRETARY OF STATE SHOWS NO ENTITY UNDER THIS NAME.

TAX RECORDS OF THE MUNICIPALITY ARE NOT APPLICABLE.

UTILITY RECORDS OF THE MUNICIPALITY SHOW TO BE INACTIVE SINCE JULY OF 2017. SEARCH REVEALS DAVID HARRISON TO BE THE OWNER. THIS WAS THE PUBLIC NOTICE POSTED ON THE STRUCTURE FOR TODAY'S HEARING.

THE FRONT EAST SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE REAR WEST SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

NORTH SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE. AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE. UPON INSPECTION, THESE WERE THE SSUBSTANDARD VIOLATIONS IDENTIFIED: NUISANCE, FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION. DLAP DLAITION ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE. SOME OF THE SIDING IS DETERIORATING AS WELL. IN MULTIPLE AREAS.

THERE ARE SOME MORE AREAS OF DETERIORATION AND DILAPIDATION ON THE EXTERIOR. AND SOME MORE DILAPIDATION AND FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION. YOU SEE THERE IS MORE ROTTING AND DETERIORATION OF THE WINDOW-FRAMING AND SIDING AS WELL AS AN OPEN SHATTERED WINDOW.

MORE AREAS OF FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION.

YOU HAVE MULTIPLE SECTIONS ON THE ROOF WHERE THERE IS SOME HOLES. AND THIS IS THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE PLUT WINDOW. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET ACCESS TO THE INSIDE OF THE STRUCTURE OTHER THAN PHOTOS THROUGH A WINDOW. WE HAVE THIS FOR A NUISANCE OF DILAPIDATION ON THE INTERIOR. AS WELL AS WHAT LOOKS TO BE MAYBE SOME TYPE OF HEATING UNIT OR SOME TYPE OF, SOME TYPE OF HEATING OR COOLING RESOURCE RIGHT THERE ON THE RIGHT.

THAT IS COMPLETELY EXPOSED. IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS NOT PROPERLY MAINTAINED. SO THE TIMELINE OF EVENTS, THIS TOO WAS ALSO WORKED UNDER THE DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE PROGRAM.

IT WAS STARTED ON SEPTEMBER 14 OF 2021.

THE PROPERTY WAS INSPECTED, FOUND TO BE SUBSTANDARD.

SEPTEMBER 20, A PHONE CALL FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER STATED THAT THE SON USES THE HOUSE TO STAY WHILE HE IS OUT OF TOWN TRUCK-DRIVING. THE FATHER STATED IT WAS IN THE FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY MAY TRY TO REPAIR THE HOUSE.

WE SPOKE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IN NOVEMBER, SAYING HE WAS DEALING WITH MAJOR HEALTH ISSUES.

HE WAS GETTING ESTIMATES TO HAVE THE ROOF REPAIRED.

HE WAS INSTRUCTED TO STAY IN CONTACT AND TO UPDATE US WITH ANY PROGRESS. ON JANUARY 18 OF 2022, WE HADN'T RECEIVED ANY FURTHER CONTACT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OR NO UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS. ON JANUARY 19, 2022, A CITATION WAS ISSUED FOR LACK OF PROGRESS UNDER THE DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE CASE. MARCH 25, 2022, PROPERTY OWNER INFORMED THE CODE OFFICER HE PLANNED TO SELL THE PROPERTY.

ON APRIL 14, 2022, THE CODE OFFICER INFORMED THAT ANOTHER CITATION WOULD BE ISSUED DUE TO LACK OF PROGRESS.

ON APRIL 26, 2022, WE STILL HAD NO FURTHER CONTACT FROM THE OWNER. ON MAY 3, THE SECOND CITATION WAS ISSUED FOR LACK OF PROGRESS. ON MAY 26, CODE OFFICERS SPOKE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO INFORM THEM THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO OBTAIN A WARRANT TO GET INSIDE THE PROPERTY FOR INSPECTION.

HE CONTINUED TO TELL US HE WAS TRYING TO RECEIVE... TRYING TO SELL THE PROPERTY. HE DID PAY BOTH CITATIONS.

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HOWEVER, HE HADN'T CORRECTED THE VIOLATIONS.

ON JUNE 8, A THIRD CITATION WAS ISSUED FOR LACK OF PROGRESS.

ON OCTOBER 11, 2022, THE PROPERTY WAS OFFICIALLY CONDEMNED BY THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL.

DUE TO LACK OF PROGRESS UNDER THE DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE PROGRAM. ON OCTOBER 12, WE DID FILE THE AFFIDAVIT. WE SENT INITIAL NOTICE ON THE 13TH. AND ON NOVEMBER 18, WE SENT NOTICE FOR TODAY'S HEARING. AND I WAS UPDATED AS OF YESTERDAY, AND INFORMED THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER DID DECIDE TO JUST COME IN AND SIGN A CONSENT TO DEMO THE PROPERTY.

AT THIS TIME, WE DO HAVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

FOR THE OWNER TO REPAIR. 30 DAYS FOR A PLAN OF ACTION.

OBTAIN ALL PERMITS. IF THIS IS DONE, 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN ROUGH INSPECTIONS. IF THIS IS DONE, ALL FINAL INSPECTIONS SHALL BE COMPLETED BY THE EXPIRATION OF ALL

PERMITS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

. >> I'M CONFUSED.

HE SIGNED AN ORDER ABOUT ALLOWING FOR CONDEMNATION, BUT YET YOU ARE RECOMMENDING 0-60-90?

>> SO HE SIGNED THE CONSENT FOR THE CITY TO DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY. WE RECOMMEND THE 30-60 BECAUSE JUST IN CASE HE DECIDES TO PULL BACK ON THAT CONSENT.

NOW, HOWEVER, WITH THE 30-60, IT STILL GIVES US THAT TIME FRAME RIGHT THERE. WHATEVER THE RECOMMENDATION Y'ALL GIVE, WHETHER IT BE A BOARD ORDER OR A 30-60, WE WILL CONFIRM WITH THE OWNER IF HE DOES WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE CONSENT TO DEMO. I BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN SIGNED AND NOTARIZED. AT THAT POINT, WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH IT. WE STILL NEED A RECOMMENDATION

FROM THE BOARD. >> THE CONSENT OF DEMO WILL ALLOW US TO PROCEED WITH THE DEMOLITION.

BASICALLY, IT IS MORE EVIDENCE INDICATING THAT THE OWNER JUST HAS NO INTEREST TO REPAIR THE PROPERTY.

>> THE BOARD ORDER WOULD NOT PROHIBIT US FROM PROCEEDING WITH DEMOLITION OR FOR THE OWNER TO PROCEED WITH DEMOLITION IF THE OWNER CHOSE TO DO IT. IF THE OWNER GIVES THE CITY CONSENT, THE CITY CHOOSES TO DO IT, OR IF THE OWNER CHOOSES TO DO IT, THE BOARD'S OPTIONS ARE ORDERING DEMOLITION IF A PROPERTY IS BAD ENOUGH OR GIVING THE OWNER TIME, AND WE HAVE CRAFTED THIS RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T... THE TIMELINES DON'T VIOLATE CODE. IT IS TREATING EVERYONE THE SAME. AT THIS POINT, STAFF DOESN'T THINK THAT... STAFF IS NOT ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER DEMOLITION. AND THEREFORE, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THIS ORDER. STAFF COULD STILL DEMOLISH IF THE OWNER GAVE CONSENT TO DEMOLISH.

EVEN IF YOU GIVE THIS AS YOUR ORDER.

EVEN IF YOU VOTE TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

>> BUT THE OWNER HAS ALREADY SIGNED AND NOTARIZED AUTHORIZATION FOR DEMOLITION. CORRECT?

>> YES. >> WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN?

>> YESTERDAY. >> YESTERDAY?

>> YES, SIR. >> SO THIS RECOMMENDATION WAS PROBABLY FORMULATED BEFORE YESTERDAY.

>> YES. >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE 22-002969.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE 22-002969. AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A

DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. >> MAY I?

>> SURE. >> WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION CONSISTENT WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS SO THAT THEY ARE MARRIED, AS OPPOSED TO THE DEMOLITION ORDER

AND THEN ANOTHER ORDER? >> WELL, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU

ARE ASKING. >> WOULDN'T IT MAKE MORE SENSE FOR US TO HAVE A MOTION TO... FOR DEMOLITION THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS?

>> WELL, NOT NECESSARILY. WHAT YOU DECIDE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING REALLY TO DO WITH WHAT THE OWNER HAS SAID.

WELL, I'M GOING TO ALLOW THIS OR I WANT TO DO THIS OR THAT.

THIS CAME ABOUT YESTERDAY. >> RIGHT.

>> STAFF MEETS TO DISCUSS THESE. I DON'T KNOW THAT STAFF, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE BUILDING INSPECTION SIDE WOULD RECOMMEND, WOULD SAY THIS STRUCTURE IS BAD ENOUGH, IT IS STRUCTURALLY

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UNSOUND. THIS IS BAD ENOUGH, WE WANT TO ASK FOR AN ORDER TO DEMOLISH. THE FINDINGS AND THE ORDER.

WE ARE STILL, WE ARE STILL SUBJECT TO THAT SAME LEGAL STANDARD. OKAY?

>> OKAY. >> NO MATTER WHAT THE OWNER DOES. AND THERE COULD BE A HOUSE THAT IS IN... THERE COULD BE A HOUSE THAT IS NOT CONDEMNED AT ALL.

THAT THE OWNER DECIDES TO DEMOLISH.

SO REALLY, WHAT THE OWNER'S DECISION IS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE STANDARD THAT YOU ARE HELD TO AND HOW WE TRY TO BE CONSISTENT AND HOW WE TRY TO OPERATE.

LIKE I SAY, IT DOESN'T PROH PROHIBIT... THE TOOLS IN YOUR TOOLBOX ARE DEMOLITION IF IT IS SO BAD, WE HAVE DEALT WITH IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. AND IT IS BECOMING MORE DETERIORATENED IT IS REALLY BAD. I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. AND THE OTHER THING IS IF THE PERSON DECIDED YESTERDAY TO SIGN THIS DEMOLITION CONSENT, I DON'T KNOW THAT STAFF HAS HAD TIME TO REEVALUATE AND DECIDE WHETHER TO MAKE SUCH A RECOMMENDATION. I CAN'T... YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE STAFF IS CONTINUING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 30-60-...

AT THIS POINT. >> IT JUST SEEMS BACKWARDS.

WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE THREAT...

>> IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT THAT FROM HAPPENING AT ALL.

>> HOW DO WE MARRY THEM UP? >> WELL, ONE STAFF... THE DEMOLITION PROCESS IS FINDING THAT THE PROPERTY IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE. HAS IT BEEN IN THE YEAR'S TIME, A PUBLIC NUISANCE BEYOND THIS OWNER'S CARE AND CONCERN? THAT IS MAYBE THE DISCUSSION I SEE, AND WITH THE NEWS FLASH OF THE OWNER SIGNING A DOCUMENT THAT HE WAS READY TO WALK AWAY FROM, SOME OF THIS MAY BE THE CAT AND MOUSE OF WHO IS GOING TO

PAY FOR THE DEMOLITION. >> WELL...

>> WHAT IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE OUTCOME OF THIS?

>> I UNDERSTAND. SEEING AS THIS STAFF RECOMMENDATION GIVES THE MOST OPTIONS FOR THE CITY AND GIVES THE OWNER WHAT THEY WANT, I WOULD SUPPORT AND MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I'LL EVEN SECOND THAT.

>> MOTION BY MR. WEBB THAT WE ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THAT WE ORDER THE OWNER TO REPAIR, 30 DAYS TO OBTAIN... TO PROVIDE A PLAN OF ACTION. INCLUDING A TIME FRAME FOR REPAIR AND KORS ESTIMATES. AND OBTAIN ALL PERMITS.

IF THAT IS DONE 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN ALL INSPECTIONS.

AND IF THAT IS DONE, ALL FINAL INSPECTIONS SHALL BE COMPLETED BY THE EXPIRATION OF ALL PERMITS.

SECONDED BY MR. SCHROEDER. ANY FURTHER COMMENT?

ROLL CALL, PLEASE? >> DR. PARIS?

>> AYE. >> MR. ALLRED?

>> AYE. MR. MCBRAYER?

>> YES. >> SORRY.

>> YES. >> I'M SORRY.

. >> MR. WEBB?

>> YES. >> MR. TURNER?

>> YES. >> MR. SCHROEDER?

>> YES. >> MR. BEARD?

>> YES. >> THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE THE

[D. Fiscal Year 2022 Condemnation Program Stats Presentation]

STAFF PRESENTATION. >> YES, SIR.

WE HAVE SOME STATISTICS TO PRESENT.

>> GOOD MORNING. CLAYTON DOOR, CODE COMPLIEBS DIVISION MANAGER. IT IS THAT TIME OF THE YEAR TO.

GO OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS, KIND OF WHERE WE CAME FROM IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO THIS IS DRIVEN BY THE FISCAL YEAR.

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IT IS OCTOBER 1 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30.

WE HAVE HAD 54 NEW CONDEMNATION CASES.

THAT IS UP FOUR FROM THE YEAR BEFORE.

441 DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE CASES. WE ONLY HAD 269 THE YEAR BEFORE.

AND SOME OF THOSE HAVE BEEN NO VIOLATION.

THOSE ARE BASICALLY COMPLAINTS. WE INVESTIGATED THOSE.

38 CASES COMPLETED. THAT IS SIX MORE THAN LAST YEAR.

51 BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD. AND 18 MORE THAN LAST YEAR, 18 RESOLVED WITHOUT GOING TO THE BOARD OF BILL BUILDING STANDARDS. 18 FUNDED DEMOLITIONS BY THE CITY. 12 WERE BY CDBG-FUNDED.

THE FEDERAL FUNDING. 7 OF THOSE WERE OWNER CONSENT.

AN AVERAGE COST OF $7,396. THAT IS DOWN FROM $12,500 LAST YEAR. WE HAVE HAD FIVE OWNER REPAIRED STRUCTURES AND FIVE DEMOLITIONS BY OWNERS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE PROGRAM IS KIND OF HELPING TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE WORK OF YOU GUYS.

AND ALSO ADDED SOME WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HAD TO DO.

I HAVE SOME OTHER STATISTICS I DIDN'T HAVE IN HERE.

2017, OUR AVERAGE TIME TO GET A CASE TO THE BOARD AND PRESENTED AND FINISHED WAS ABOUT THREE AND A QUARTER YEARS.

AS OF THIS LAST YEAR, IT IS DOWN TO ABOUT ONE YEAR.

RIGHT ABOUT THAT TIME FRAME. IN BETWEEN THERE, WE WERE ADDRESSING A LOT OF OLDER CASES. THOSE STATISTICS KIND OF WENT UP. WE CLEARED A LOT OF THOSE CASES OUT. JUST PLUGGING FORWARD.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JOSH MARES FOR PRESENTING THE CASES FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS NOW. IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, HE IS MOVING ON TO OTHER THINGS. THIS WILL BE HIS LAST PRESENTATION TODAY. ALSO CHRISTI FOR TAKING NOTES AND ROB AND RICK FOR HANDLING THE DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE PROGRAM AND BRINGING THESE TO THE BOARD AS WELL.

WERE INCREASING... WE ARE INCREASING THE PEOPLE CONCENTRATED ON THESE. IT KEEPS EXTRA EYES ON THESE CASES TO GET MORE DETAIL. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WHO DO WE HAVE TO TRAIN NEW? >> WHAT'S THAT?

>> WHO IS THE NEW GUY? >> IT WILL PROBABLY BE RICKY.

OR ROB. THEY CAN ARM-WRESTLE IT OVER, I GUESS. WE ARE ALSO BRINGING ON PROPERTY MAINTENANCE INSPECTORS. TWO MORE OF THOSE HAVE BEEN APPROVED. WE WILL BE HIRING MORE PEOPLE FOR THAT. BASICALLY, IF RENTAL PROPERTIES.

THAT WILL KIND OF HELP SOLVE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS BEFORE THINGS GET TO THE BOARD, TOO, AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE ON THE RENTAL

PROPERTIES AND STUFF. >> MR. DOOR, I HAVE A QUESTION.

54 NEW CONDEMNATION CASES AND 441 DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE CASES.

THAT IS ALMOST 500 CASES ALTOGETHER.

THEN THE THIRD LINE SAYS 38 CASES COMPLETED.

ARE YOU SAYING YOU HAVE HAD 500 CASES AND 38 OF THEM WERE

COMPLETED? >> WE GET A NEW CASE IN, WE WILL HAVE AN INVESTIGATOR GO OUT AND SEE IT.

WE WILL TAKE IT TO STAFF TO SEE IF IT IS WORTHY.

THE BUILDING INSPECTOR WILL DECIDE.

SOME OF THESE ARE COMPLAINT-DRIVEN.

A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT DILAPIDATION.

SOME MIGHT NOT MEET THE CRITERIA.

THOSE GET DROPPED OFF. BEFORE IT COMES TO THE BOARD.

IT IS A LITTLE DECEIVING. A LOT OF THOSE GET WEEDED OUT.

OUT OF 441, WE REALLY SCRUTINIZE THOSE AND SEE IF THEY ARE WORTHY

OF BEING AN ACTUAL CASE OR NOT. >> YOU RESOLVED A COUPLE

HUNDRED? >> NOT YET.

WE ARE NOT DONE WITH THEM. SOME ARE STILL IN THE SYSTEM.

WE WILL SEE. >> YEAH.

>> MAY I? >> SURE.

>> I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, AND YOU ARE TELLING US EVERYTHING THAT IS NEGATIVE. YOU ARE NOT PATTING YOURSELF ON THE BACK AND SAYING THE POSITIVES.

WHAT YOU COMPLETED. WE HAD 500, BUT WE RESOLVED 300 BY USING THE PROCESS. ONLY THIS MANY HAD TO COME BEFORE YOU. THE PROCESS IS WORKING.

I REALLY LIKE IT WHEN... IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THIS YEAR, THERE WAS MORE OF A TENDENCY TO INTEGRATE THE POLICE COMPLAINTS AND I REMEMBER ONE MONTH, A POLICE OFFICER ACTUALLY CAME HERE AND TESTIFIED, AND FOR ME, THAT CARRIES WEIGHT.

IT GIVES MORE SUBSTANCE TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

>> RIGHT. WE ENCOURAGE EVERY TIME WE HAVE A COMPLAINT THAT COMES IN, SOME OF THEM COME IN FROM POLICE OFFICERS AND ACTIVITY THAT IS GOING ON THERE, ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO SHOW UP FOR

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THESE MEETINGS. >> I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING.

>> THANK YOU. >> 500 CASES PLUS OR MINUS...

THE NEW CASES. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE GENERATED BY NEIGHBOR COMPLAINTS?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO GO... >> AND HOW MANY WERE GENERATED BY JUST THE STAFF GOING OUT AND HUNTING?

>> RIGHT. THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE... ONCE PEOPLE KNOW THAT... THERE IS A CATEGORY FOR THAT ON THERE.

THEY START USING THAT MORE OFTEN.

THEY JUST NOTICED THIS LAST YEAR.

THERE IS A CATEGORY FOR THAT. MOST OF THOSE ARE GENERATED.

WE DO, LIKE I SAID, WE GET SOME THAT OUR TEAM MIGHT SEE WHEN THEY ARE OUT AND ABOUT THAT ARE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE.

SOME MIGHT BE DILAPIDATED. THEY MIGHT GO INTO THE CONDEMNATION PROGRAM. THE MAJORITY ARE

COMPLAINT-DRIVEN. >> I HOPE SO.

>> I'M TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING ON ONE SLIDE HERE.

MAYBE NEXT YEAR, I MIGHT HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER ONE.

WE WILL SEE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I'M JUST... YOU SAID... YOU PRESENTED THIS ABOUT YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. THAT ALL SOUNDS GOOD.

I'M KIND OF AGREEING HERE TH THAT... I'M BAFFLED WITH THE NUMBERS STILL. IS THERE A SPREADSHEET WHERE THESE ADD UP TO BALANCE ZERO? I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR BULLET POINTS, I GUESS. AND TO GRADE THIS PRESENTATION ON THE INFORMATION I JUST AM A LITTLE SCATTERED WITH WHAT INFORMATION I'M SEEING HERE. I'M CURIOUS ON THE DILAPIDATION PROGRAM. WE HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION IN TODAY'S AGENDA ITEMS WHICH IS NOT EVEN TECHNICALLY IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE DILAPIDATION STRUCTURES CASES. 441 CASES AND ONLY 269 FROM LAST YEAR. I DON'T SEE WHERE... WHAT IS A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE PROGRAM, I GUESS?

>> THAT 441, AGAIN. THOSE ARE COMPLAINTS.

THE GENERAL PUBLIC MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT THAT PERTAINS TO.

THOSE WOULD HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATED OR ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING INVESTIGATED BY CODE OFFICERS.

IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A BAD NUMBER.

IT IS JUST WE HAVE VISIBILITY OVER THOSE.

INSTEAD OF ME JUST BREAKING EVERYTHING UP, I PUT THE NUMBER

ON THERE AS BEING INVESTIGATED. >> OKAY.

>> IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING TO PUT THAT ON THERE.

IT IS JUST SAYING OUR GUYS ARE DOING A LOT OF WORK RIGHT NOW.

>> OKAY. DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE CASE MAYBE TO ME DOESN'T EQUAL 441 COMPLAINTS.

I MEAN, A CASE IS LIKE WE GOT A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE CASE LIKE THE ONES THAT WE SAW IN THE ITEMS.

>> RIGHT. >> YOU WERE WORKING WITH SOMETHING. I WOULD RE-LABEL THAT BULLET POINT THAT THAT IS NOT A CASE. THAT IS COMPLAINTS.

>> WELL, IF WE GET A COMPLAINT ON SOMETHING, WE PUT IT IN A CASE IMMEDIATELY. IF IT IS CASES UNFOUNDED, IT WILL BE A NO-VIOLATION CASE. SO TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE WORKING THAT, IT COMES UP ON OUR WEBSITE.

THEY CAN SEE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING IT.

IF WE DON'T PUT IT IN THERE AS A CASE, THEY WILL NEVER SEE IT AGAIN WITHOUT CALLING US TO ASK ABOUT IT.

IT IS KIND OF TO KEEP THE PUBLIC AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AS WELL

WITH THOSE CASES. >> THIS IS DRIVEN IN THE WEBSITE

AS WELL. >> YOU CAN LOOK UP AN ADDRESS ON THE CITY WEBSITE. YOU CAN SEE WHAT CASES HAVE BEEN

OPENED ON THAT. >> OKAY.

AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, I GUESS I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION I CAN GO DIG OUT, SO ANYWAY, I DO, I DO RECOGNIZE YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

THAT IS WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY. AND I DO RECOGNIZE OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE BEEN ON THIS BOARD IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES, WE HAVE EVOLVED, AND WE ARE GETTING TO BE A WELL-OILED MACHINE.

I REALLY LIKE HOW THINGS HAVE GONE, AND I HOPE IT CONTINUES

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THAT PROCESS. AND THAT'S BEEN A CREDIT TO YOU GUYS, HOW IT IS BROUGHT TO US. THEN THE KIND OF TRAINING THE BOARD, TOO, IN A LOT OF THINGS. SO ALL OF THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION. I DON'T QUITE SAY I UNDERSTAND IT ALL, BUT I DO THINK EVERYTHING IS GOING AS BETTER AND AS GOOD AS IT HAS OVER TIME, AND WE ARE ALL, AS A BOARD, FUNCTIONING WELL. IT IS A GOOD FISCAL YEAR.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I WANT TO AFFIRM THOSE COMMENTS. GOING FROM THREE AND WHAT.

>> YOOERS AVERAGE DOWN TO ONE YEAR IS A REALLY POSITIVE STEP IN MY OPINION. TO BE ABLE TO GET THESE CASES IN AND OUT AND SOLVED ON A MUCH MORE EXPEDIENT MANNER.

I COMPLIMENT YOU ALL FOR THAT. ALL OF YOU.

>> COULD I SUPPORT THAT VERY STATEMENT IN I THINK THAT IS SO IMPRESSIVE, AND JUST ANOTHER BRIEF COMMENT IS THAT I THINK THE INFORMATION THAT IS BROUGHT TO US ABOUT THOSE CASES HAS MADE IT... I THINK WE MAKE MORE OF AN INFORMED DECISION WITH THIS BOARD BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED TIMING OR THE IMPROVED TIMING OF BRINGING THE CASES. WE ARE PROVIDED A LOT OF INFORMATION. YES, IT MAKES A LITTLE BY.

BIT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US. AND SOMETIMES THERE IS A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE CASES. IT HELPS US TO MAKE A MORE INFORMED DECISION. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE, AND I WILL JUST CONGRATULATE AND WISH JOSH THE BEST AS HE MOVES

FORWARD. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE, THESE PAST THREE YEARS.

I THANK YOU ALL FOR THE SUPPORT. AND EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL HAVE DISPLAYED. NOT JUST ME.

TO ENTIRE CITY. AND TO THE STAFF.

IT HAS BEEN... IT REALLY HAS AN HONOR AND PLEASURE PRESENTING TO Y'ALL. THESE PAST THREE YEARS.

I WISH Y'ALL THE BEST GOING FORWARD AS WELL.

AND YOU KNOW, I HOPE Y'ALL DO EVERYTHING TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM, YOU KNOW, ANY HAD ARDUOUS CONDITIONS.

IT GETS ROUGH. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, JOSH, FOR THE GOOD JOB THAT YOU HAVE DONE. I SEE IT AS A GOOD JOB.

I APPRECIATED IT. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> WITH THAT, I GUESS WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.