[1. Call to Order.]
[2. Recognition and Proclamation. ]
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>> -- -- TO ORDER. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA. AND IF ANYONE HAS FILLED OUT A CARD, WE WILL START WITH THE CARDSFIRST.
WHEN WE GET TO THE ITEM. THEN WE WILL OPEN UP TO ANYONE ELSE. OUR NEXT ITEM IS RECOGNITION AND PROCLAMATION. WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE, JUDGE BOLLS, IF YOU WANT TO COME DOWN FRONT
? >> I DIDN'T BRING MY READERS (LAUGHING)! ARE YOU ALL GOING TO SING
(LAUGHING)? >> JUDGE BOLLS SERVES IN ONE OF THE ROLES BY HIS POSITION AS COUNTY JUDGE.
HE IS A MEMBER OF THE POLICY BOARD.
AND SO, FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS, HE HAS HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF HELPING TO DIRECT POLICY FOR THIS AREA.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION: TO ALL THOSE PRESENT AND WHO SHALL COME, GREETINGS, KNOW THE CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION IS PRESENTED TO JUDGE DOWNING BOLLS.
JUDGE BOS HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION FOR 12 YEARS AND HAS SERVED AS VICE CHAIR FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. HIS LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVICE TO THE MBO HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL TO THE COLLABORATION OF MULTIPLE PROJECTS AND CONTINUATION OF A VIABLE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. HE HAS BEEN A CHAMPION OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND HAS GIVEN TIME AND EFFORT TO ENSURE PALL CITIZENS HAVE A VOICE IN THEIR TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS.
ON BEHALF OF THE ABILENE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION, WE EXPRESS OUR SINCERE EXCRUCIATING FOR HIS SINCERE AND DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE MBO.
IT SIGNED BY THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION, JUDGE BOLLS.> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[APPLAUSE] I WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT AND SAY THANK YOU TO THIS ORGANIZATION.
LONG AGO, WHEN I WAS A REPORTER I STARTED TO LEARN ABOUT THE MBO AND WHAT THEY DO AND HOW WE WORK WITH GETTING THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS IN HERE AND MAXIMIZING THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS IN TERMS OF HIGHWAYS. BUT SOMEBODY TOLD ME WHEN I WAS A REPORTER, THEY TOLD ME THE BEST I CAN GIVE YOU ADVICE WISE AS A REPORTER'S TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND YOUR EARS OPEN.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO AND IT HAS SERVED ME WELL OVER THE YEARS. LISTENING IS A BIG PART OF IT.
THANK YOU ALL MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
EVERY TIME I DRIVE DOWN THE STREET, I THINK ABOUT YOU GUYS (LAUGHING). IN A GOOD WAY! IN A GOOD WAY! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
[APPLAUSE] >> AND IF EVERYONE WANTS TO STICK AROUND AFTER THE MEETING CONCLUDES, WE HAVE SOME SNACKS THAT WE WILL SET UP IN THE (INDISCERNIBLE) AREA.
[3. Consideration and Take Action on the minutes of the October 18, 2022 meeting. ]
SO WE INVITE YOU ALL TO STAY AND CONGRATULATE THE JUDGE BACK ON HIS MANY YEARS OF SERVICE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE MINUTES FROM OUR OCTOBER 18, 2022 MEETING. THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE BOARD MEMBERS. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS? ADDITIONS?ELETIONS TO THE MINUTES?>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE MINUTES, I MOVE THAT THEY BE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
[4. Receive an Update, Hold a Discussion, and Take Action on Meeting Dates for 2023. ]
>> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE.
>> ANY POST? THE MINUTES WERE APPROVED.
A MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOR RECEIVE AN UPDATE, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON MEETING DATES OF 2023.
ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED MEETING DATES.
WE GENERALLY MEET THE THIRD TUESDAY OF THE EVEN MONTHS.
ELISA HAS PUT HOLIDAYS ON THEIR TO HAVE AS A REFERENCE.
SO JUDGE, ANY OF THIS CONFLICT FOR YOU?
>> KNOW THEY ALL LOOK GOOD TO ME!
[LAUGHTER] >> THIS YEAR, WE HAD OUR MEETING ON THE SECOND TUESDAY IN DECEMBER BECAUSE WE WERE CLOSE TO CHRISTMAS WITH THE 20TH NEXT WEEK.
NEXT YEAR, THE 19TH, WILL BE THE THIRD TUESDAY.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUALMS OR CONCERNS WITH BEING THAT CLOSE TO CHRISTMAS? ARE WE GOOD WITH THOSE DATES AS THEY LOOK? AND I KNOW AUGUST 15, AS ALWAYS, FOR THE AUGUST MONTH IS SOMETIMES PROBLEMATIC FOR YOU.
[5. Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion, and Take Action on the Comprehensive Transportation Corridor Study: Loop 322/SH 36 (Traffic Impact Analysis). (Mr. Hiron Fernando, Kimley-Horn) ]
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BUT YOU DON'T KNOW REALLY UNTIL WE GET CLOSER.>> I THINK I CAN MAKE THOSE DATES.
>> GOOD. WELL, THOSE WILL BE OUR DATES AND WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES IF WE NEED TO.
BUT WE WILL PLAN ON THOSE DATES FOR NEXT YEAR.
LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 5, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON THE COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR STUDY FOR (INDISCERNIBLE) STATE HIGHWAY 36 TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
LISA, I'LL LET YOU INTRODUCE OUR SPECIAL PRESENTER.
>> OKAY. I'LL GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
THE STUDY INITIATED BACK IN 2021 AND IT'S LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR THAT'S BY THE STATE HIGHWAY 36 AND FM 18 AND THE LOOP 322 AND STATE HIGHWAY 36.
AND SO, THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS MEETINGS.
WE'VE HAD SOME DRAFT REPORTS AND KIMBERLY HORN IS HERE TO PRESENT THAT WILL STOP THE DRAFT REPORT HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS IN IT. AND THE FINAL REPORT HAS THREE DIFFERENT VOLUMES. VOLUME 1 IS THE MAIN PART OF THE DOCUMENT, VOLUME 2 IS THE APPENDIX WITH THE ROLLED PLOT EXHIBITS AND VOLUME 3 IS (INDISCERNIBLE) AND A LOT OF THE MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION. ANY FUTURE PROJECTS THAT RESULT FROM THIS WILL GO THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AS PART OF THE PROJECT SELECTION PROCESS.
IF A PROJECT GETS PULLED INTO THE LONG-RANGE PLAN OR SHORT RANGE PLAN, WE WOULD GO THROUGH OUR NORMAL PROCESSES.
THE TAC THERE NOVEMBER 29 MEETING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL (INDISCERNIBLE) IN THIS ACTION REQUESTED IS ANY CHANGES, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS TO THE DOCUMENT AND APPROVAL AND/OR ACCEPTANCE OF THE DOCUMENT. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HER RON AND LET HIM GO THROUGH THE DOCUMENT WITH YOU
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN PRICE, LISA AND THE POLICY BOARD. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT STOP WERE EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. MY NAME IS PERON (INDISCERNIBLE). I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON WHERE WE'VE BEEN. AND THEN I WILL DIVE INTO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT SOME OF THE OPTIONS AND GO THROUGH SOME OF THE BACKGROUND OF HOW WE CAME UP WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WORKED WITH A GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS, THAT INCLUDES TXDOT REPRESENTATIVES, MBO, THE CITY, AIR FORCE AND THE AIRPORT AS WELL.
A LOT OF THEM ARE REPRESENTED HERE.
WE'VE HAD VERY GOOD DIALOGUE WITH THE ENTIRE TEAM THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS TO COME UP WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THERE HAS BEEN QUITE A FEW TWEAKS AND ADDITIONS AND MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH.
BUT THIS IS THE ULTIMATE FINAL PROPOSAL THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH THAT WE WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY.
SO THERE WERE THREE PRIMARY OBJECTIVES THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS WITH THIS PROJECT COMING FROM THE MPL.
THOSE THREE WORDS, NUMBER 1, EVALUATING METHODS TO IMPROVE SAFETY ALONG THE TWO-WAY FRONTAGE ROADS.
AND NUMBER 2 WAS INSTALLING A CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD ALONG 322. AND FINALLY, THE THIRD ONE WAS LOOKING AT THE TRANSPORTATION ENHANCEMENTS FOR BOTH SHORT AND LONG-TERM IMPROVEMENTS BASED OFF OF ALL THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. SO THAT SEGUES US TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA.
SO THERE ARE FOUR MAIN FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE ARE SHOWING HERE. THESE ALL CAME FROM THE AIRPORT LAND USE MASTER PLAN. SO THESE ARE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IMMINENT AND GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS VICINITY HERE RELATIVELY SOON. SO THE FOUR DEVELOPMENTS ARE THE AIRPORT, ABILENE AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT, AREAS A, B, CAPITAL C SHOWN IN GREEN. AND THE GREAT LAKES CHEESE THAT IS CURRENTLY OPERATIONAL IN ORANGE.
THE YELLOW IS IT (INDISCERNIBLE) EXPANSION AND (INDISCERNIBLE) IN THE PERP: PURPLE IN 1750.
THE WAY THAT WE DO THIS IN TRAFFIC ENGINEERING IS WE TAKE EXISTING TRAFFIC COUNTS, WHICH TXDOT HELPED US COUNT.
LATER ON, THE ADDITIONAL TRIPS BASED OFF OF THESE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS AND LAYER THOSE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
THE SUM OF THE TOTAL AND THAT'S HOW WE DETERMINE THE TOTAL FUTURE TRIPS FOR DAILY VOLUMES AND AM AND PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS.
SO GOING INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS.
WE EVALUATED 2027 TRIP GENERATION, AS WELL AS 2032.
IN AREA A, WE ADDED PHASE I AS PART OF AREA A FOR THE ABILENE
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AIRPORT EXPANSION. AND WE ALSO ADDED AREA B. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TRIPS WAS 20,000 ADDITIONAL DAILY ONE-WAY TRIPS THAT WERE GENERATED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT IN 2027.AND GOING INTO 2032, WE ADDED IN THE REMAINDER OF AREA A, AS WELL AS AREA C. THIS GENERATED A TOTAL OF 30,000 TOTAL TRIPS.
SO 10,000 ADDITIONAL TRIPS AS COMPARED TO THE 2027 CONDITION.
SO THESE ARE THE VOLUMES WE USE TO GENERATE THE REST OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. THIS IS THE BASIS OF OUR REPORT. SO GOING INTO SOME OF THE OPTIONS. SO THERE ARE FOUR TOTAL OPTIONS. YOU SEE THEM ON THE RIGHT, ON THESE POSTER BOARDS, AS WELL AS THE HANDOUTS.
WE HAVE HANDOUTS UPFRONT IF YOU DIDN'T GET ONE.
THERE ARE FOUR TOTAL OPTIONS, BUT THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS THAT REALLY STOOD OUT THAT THE POLICY BOARD AND MPL WANTED US TO LOOK FURTHER. SO THOSE ARE OPTIONS 2 AND 3.
THOSE ARE THE ONES WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES. TOWARDS THE END, I'LL TALK ABOUT ALL OPTIONS AND GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ON THE PROS AND CONS OF ALL OF THEM.SO THIS IS A MAP, KIND OF A LINE DIAGRAM, I WOULD CALL IT OF THE PROPOSED AREA.
SO YOU SEE THE MULTIPLE COLORED RECTANGLES THERE ARE ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS, KEY FINDINGS THAT WE SAW OUT OF OUR RESULTS IS THAT NUMBER 1, AREA A, A LOT OF THE TRIPS WOULD BE COMING OUT UNTO STATE LOOP 322, MAKING A RIGHT ONTO FRONTAGE ROAD AND COMINGUP TO THE INTERSECTION THERE AT 322 AND 36. AND MAKING A LEFT TURN THROUGH THE FIRST SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN. AND THEN, MAKING ANOTHER LEFT TURN AT THE SECOND INTERSECTION , AT THE SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD. SO THERE WOULD BE SO MUCH ADDITIONAL TRIPS GENERATED FROM AREA A THAT IT WOULD REALLY CONTRAST THOSE TWO SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS.
SO THAT RED SQUARE THEY ARE ON THE NORTHBOUND APPROACH, THAT IS ONE OF THE KEY FINDINGS TO DO A U-TURN, A DEDICATED U-TURN TO PASS ANY OF THE TRIPS THAT WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THOSE TWO SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE CONGESTION AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS. AND SO, ALONG WITH THAT COMES ON THE SOUTHBOUND SIDE. YOU NEED TO REMOVE THE NORTHBOUND -- THE NORTHBOUND LANES FROM EXPO DRIVE UP TO 36 IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT U-TURN MANEUVER.
SO THOSE TWO THINGS, THE NORTHBOUND LEFT TURN AND REMOVAL OF THE NORTHBOUND LANES FROM EXPO TO 36 GO TANDEM.
AND THEN, ANOTHER KEY FINDING THAT WE FOUND WAS THE SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN AT 36, AT 322.
WE RECOMMEND ADDING A DEDICATED LEFT TURN BAY THERE.
WE BEEN OUT TO THE SITE PROBABLY THREE TIMES OVER THE SUMMER TO DRIVE AND OBSERVE. WE ACTUALLY CAME DURING ONE OF THE EVENTS TO THE RODEO. EACH ONE OF THOSE TIMES WE NOTICED THAT THIS LEFT TURN BAY CUES ON TWO 322, THE MAIN LANES. OBVIOUSLY, A SAFETY CONCERN.
THERE'S QUITE A FEW TRACTOR-TRAILERS, 53 FOOT LONG TRACTOR-TRAILERS THAT EXTENUATING THE CONCERN IN THE PROBLEM. SO ADDING IN THIS LEFT TURN BAY ADDS MORE CAPACITY AND IT ALLOWS FOR BETTER PROGRESSION AND LESS Q'S BILL BACK. ALSO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, REMOVING THE NORTHBOUND LANES. ANY OF THE TIME THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE NORTHBOUND LANES CAN BE USED FOR THE SOUTHBOUND MANEUVER THERE. AND THEN, THE LAST THING A SIGNAL IS ASIAN OF THESE DESK OF THE THREE INTERSECTIONS HERE ON 1750. NOW IN A TALK LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMMONALITIES BETWEEN THE FOUR OPTIONS.
SO A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS HERE TO CAVEAT THIS DISCUSSION IS NUMBER 1, THESE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED DUE TO THIS PROJECT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS AREA. AND THEN, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THESE TYPES OF EXHIBITS THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THIS PRESENTATION. SO NORTH IS TO THE LEFT.
AND SO, THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN IS THE EAST SIDE.
SO IF I SAY EAST OF STATE LOOP 322, THAT'S CLOSE TO WHERE THE LIFT CENTER IS. AND THEN, THE WEST SIDE OR THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN, IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LIPS ARE IN THE EXPO CENTER STOP AND THEN, THE RIGHT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF PROPOSED PAVEMENT.
THE BLUE IS EXISTING PAVEMENT. AND THEN, THE GREEN AREAS THEREBY LITTLE CREEK OUR BRIDGES, PROPOSED BRIDGES.
SO I'M GOING TO ZOOM INTO A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE ABOUT THE
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COMMONALITIES BETWEEN THE W BETWEEN OPTIONS ONE THROUGH FOUR. THE FIRST IS THE SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE THAT I MENTIONED THERE ON THE RIGHT OF YOUR SCREEN. SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN TO AVOID Q'S BILL BACK ONTO THE MAIN LANES.ALSO, NORTHBOUND U-TURN GOES TANDEM WITH REMOVING THE NORTHBOUND LANES FROM EXPO THROUGH 36 WILL STOP LIKE I JUST SAID, THIS IS EXPO DRIVE. THE REMOVAL OF THE NORTHBOUND LANES FROM HERE UP TO 36. WE ARE CALLING THIS THE JUG HANDLE APPROACH. THIS IS VEHICLES COMING NORTHBOUND ON LITTLE TRAIL WOULD MAKE A LEFT TURN AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE GOING ON EXPO DRIVE, RATHER THAN GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH NORTH. AND THEN A COUPLE OTHER COMMONALITIES IS UP HERE. THIS EAST SIDE OF 322.
WE HAVE A CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD FROM 1750 ALL THE WAY TO 36. SO THAT IS COMMON ACROSS THE BOARD. AND THEN, THE SOUTHBOUND ONLY TRAFFIC FROM 36 TO EXPO IS ALSO COMMON.
ALL RIGHT. SO NOW I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT OPTION 2. SO WE ARE CALLING OPTION TO THE PREFERRED OPTION.
OPTION 3, WE ARE CALLING THAT THE INTERIM ALTERNATIVE.
OPTION 2, I'LL ZOOM IN HERE TO THE WEST SIDE.
SOMEONE OPTION 2, THIS IS THE SEPARATE CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD. SO BASICALLY, WE WOULD HAVE A SEPARATE FRONTAGE ROAD ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING LYTLE TRAIL.
THAT SEPARATE FRONTAGE ROAD WOULD ALLOW EASY ACCESS ONTO THE ON RAMP TO 322. AND LYTLE TRAIL WOULD FUNCTION AS IT IS TODAY.HE ONLY CAVEAT WOULD BE THAT YOU HAVE THAT JUG HANDLE AT EXPO TO TUR , LEFT TURN INTO EXPO.
SO SOME OF THE BENEFITS HERE IS THAT YOU DO GET A CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD FROM 36 ALL THE WAY ACROSS LYTLE CREEK INTO 1750. YOU GET CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD ON BOTH EAST AND WEST SIDES.
IT ALSO REDUCES CONFLICT POINTS.
SO IF YOU KNOW THE AREA, CURRENTLY, IF YOU ARE GOING SOUTHBOUND PAST EXPO, YOU HAVE TO WEAVE OVER IF YOU WANT TO GET ONTO THE HIGHWAY. YOU HAVE TO WEAVE OVER AND YOU HAVE ONCOMING NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING HEAD-ON.
SO DURING LOW LIGHT SITUATIONS OR RAIN EVENTS, THAT CAN OBVIOUSLY BE A SAFETY CONCERN. THIS OPTION ELIMINATES, OPTION 2B ELIMINATES THE CONCERN OF THE CONFLICT POINTS.
SO THIS EXHIBIT SHOWS EXISTING 2022 EVENT DATE TRAFFIC.
WE ACTUALLY VISITED THE SITE ON SEPTEMBER 15, WHICH WAS THE EXPO CENTER RODEO. WE VIEWED THE ENTIRE AREA 7:00, DURING THE HEAVIEST PEAK WHEN THE RODEO WAS ACTIVE.
ON THE LEFT SIDE SHOWS HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS GOING FROM SOUTH 27TH STREET, 100 PERCENT OF THE TRIPS ARE GOING ON SOUTH 27TH STREET. 48 PERCENT OF IT TURNS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS THERE. AND THEN, 17 PERCENT TURNS INTO EXPO DRIVE. IN THE REST OF IT CONTINUES NORTHBOUND STOP 15 PERCENT, 14 PERCENT TURNS LEFT.
FINALLY, SIX PERCENT MAKES IT ALL THE WAY UP TO 36.
SO ON THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT THERE, WE ARE SHOWING THE DIFFERENCE IF YOU TAKE OUT THE NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD FROM EXPO TO 36, WHAT HAPPENS. SO 100 PERCENT STILL COMES THROUGH. 48 PERCENT IS STILL ABLE TO ACCESS THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS THERE.
AND THEN, THERE IS ADDITIONAL DEMAND WHERE 34 PERCENT WITH TURN LEFT ONTO EXPO DRIVE. SINCE THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO CONTINUE GOING NORTHBOUND. AND THEN, SOME OF THE RED ARROWS AT THE TOP, SEVEN AND 11 PERCENT SHOWS THE TRIPS THAT WOULD REDISTRIBUTE COMING INTO THAT EXPO AREA.
SO THE KEY POINT I WANT TO MAKE HERE IS THAT THAT 48 PERCENT IS STILL ABLE TO ACCESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANY OF THE INGRESS OR EGRESS INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THEY ARE STILL ABLETO ACCESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A LITTLE ADDITIONAL DEMAND AT EXPO DRIVE MAKING THAT LEFT , BUT THE OPERATION STAYS THE SAME. AND TALKING ABOUT OPTION 3, THIS IS THE INTERIM ALTERNATIVE.
SO I'LL GO INTO THIS ONE WILL STOP WHAT YOU WILL NOTICE HERE IS THAT WE ARE CALLING THIS NO CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD WEST OF 322. THERE IS NO FRONTAGE ROAD GOING ACROSS LYTLE CREEK. THAT'S THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION 2 AND OPTION 3. YOU STILL GET THIS DRUG HANDLE APPROACH AND THE OPERATIONS WHICH WE ARE IN A TALK HERE IN
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A MOMENT ARE RELATIVELY SIMILAR BETWEEN OPTIONS TWO AND THREE.THIS IS A MORE COST-EFFECTIVE APPROACH.
BUT AN INTERIM APPROACH. OKAY.
SO NOW I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT WE EVALUATED. NOT A CURRENT SIGNAL BUT WARRANTED FOR THE FUTURE. SO THERE WERE FOUR SIGNALS THAT ARE WARRANTED FOR THE FUTURE. AND SO, THE FIRST ONE WAS FM 18 EXTENSION AT 36. SO THIS IS THE FUTURE AIRPORT ENTRY POINT THAT'S GOING TO MOVE FROM WHERE IT IS TODAY FURTHER SOUTH OF THE CENTER SECTION UP HERE.
SO WITH ALL THAT ADDITIONAL DEMAND A SIGNAL IS NEEDED.
IN THESE THREE INTERSECTIONS ALONG 1750.
SO THIS IS A SUMMARY OF WHEN WE EXPECT THOSE TO BE WARRANTED.
SO THE TWO AT 1750 AT 322 WOULD BE IN 2027.
FM 18 AT 36 WOULD ALSO BE 2027. IT WOULD REALLY BE TIED TO WHEN THE AIRPORT, THAT AREA GETS DEVELOPED.
SO THOSE ARE TIED TOGETHER. AND FINALLY, 1750 AT 27TH STREET WOULD WARRANT IN 2025, A LITTLE EARLIER THAN THE OTHERS.
AND SO AT 1750 AT 27TH STREET, I'LL MENTION WHEN WE WERE DRIVING THE CORRIDOR, WE NOTICED THE WESTBOUND APPROACH MAKING A LEFT TURN. WHEN YOU WERE SITTING AT THE INTERSECTION, THERE'S A BIG BRICK WALL THAT'S ADJACENT TO THAT AREA. AND IT REALLY LIMITS THE SIGHT DISTANCE. SO WHENEVER VEHICLES ARE COMING NORTHBOUND ON 1750 AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED, IT'S HARD TO FIND A GAP OR TO SEE THEM TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT LEFT TURN.
SO THE SIGNAL WOULD HELP FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, AS WELL AS IMPROVE THE OPERATIONS. BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE YOUR OWN PHASE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN OR THROUGH OR WHATEVER THE CASES. SO THAT'S ALSO A SAFETY BENEFIT. ALL RIGHT.
SO NOW I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC OPERATIONS ANALYSIS.
SO I'M GOING TO GO INTO A LITTLE OF THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING JARGON HERE.UST TO PREP YOU HERE.
THIS IS AN IMAGE OF WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE IS.
JUST LIKE IN GRADE SCHOOL, RIGHT? GO FROM LEVEL OF SERVICE A ALL THE WAY DOWN TO F. A IS GOOD, F IS BAD. WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO SEE LOS IN THE C OR D RANGE.ECAUSE YOU CAN'T BUILD EVERY HIGHWAY TO BE LOS A, OTHERWISE HE WOULD END UP WITH A 30 LANE HIGHWAY EVERYWHERE, RIGHT? SO LOS C OR D IS WHERE WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO MITIGATE TO AND LIKE TO SEE.
THE TABLE ON THE RIGHT IS SHOWING LOS D AT A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION. 35 TO 55 SECONDS OF DELAY.
SO HALF A MINUTE TO A MINUTE WORTH OF DELIGHT.
IMAGINE YOU ARE STOPPING AT AN INTERSECTION.
YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS TO A MINUTE WITH THE DELAY IS WHAT THAT IS SHOWING. AND LOS F IS SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN THAT. WHICH WE WOULD NOT ACCEPT.
THAT'S CONSIDERED UNACCEPTABLE. OKAY, SO GOING INTO THIS CHART HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT TRAFFIC OPERATIONS FOR THE INTERSECTIONS. SO GOING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, WE HAVE THE INTERSECTION ON THE LEFT.
THE APPROACH, 2022 EXISTING TRAFFIC HOW IT'S PERFORMING TODAY. THEN WE GO INTO 2027 AND 2032.
NO MEDICATIONS, WHICH IS THE DO-NOTHING ALTERNATIVE SO TO SPEAK.SO IF EVERYTHING GOT BUILT OUT AND YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING, THAT'S IS HOW IT WOULD PERFORM.
THEN, 2027 YOU HAVE OPTIONS TWO AND THREE.
AND 2232 OPTIONS 2 AND 3. ON THEIR BREAK THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I MERELY CAN FOCUS ON 2023, THE NO MITIGATION SCENARIO. IN 2023, IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING, OBVIOUSLY YOU SEE A LOT OF F'S AND E'S AND IT'S NOT PERFORMING AS WELL AS WE WOULD EXPECT.
BUT IN 2023, FOR OPTION 2 AND 3, IF WE DO HAVE MITIGATIONS, THEN IT PERFORMS SUBSTANTIALLY BETTER AT LOS C AND B. THE SAME THING FOR THE PM PEAK HOUR. AGAIN IN 2023, IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING, IT PERFORMS POORLY. SOME F'S.
AND 2032, IT PERFORMS MUCH BETTER AT A LOW SEE B. ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION HERE IS THAT OPTIONS 2 AND 3 ACTUALLY PERFORM VERY SIMILARLY. YOU SEE A LOT OF THE DELAYS ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL. FROM AN OPERATIONS PERSPECTIVE, BOTH OPERATIONS PERFORM VERY WELL.
IT'S MAINLY, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THAT CONTINUE WHICH FRONTAGE ROAD I WAS TALKING ABOUT, GOING ACROSS LYTLE CREEK. SO YOU DON'T GET THE CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD WITH OPTION NUMBER 3, BUT THE OPERATIONAL BENEFITS ARE THERE. AND THEN GOING INTO THE WEST SIDE OF STATE LOOP 322. ON THIS ONE, SO WE WOULD EXPECT
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THERE TO BE ADDITIONAL DELAYS DUE TO TRAFFIC HAVING TO REROUTE SINCE THEY CAN GO NORTHBOUND ON 322 ANYMORE.BUT THE INCREASE IN DELAY IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL I WOULD SAY.
IN 2023, OR 2032, 15 SECONDS WORTH OF DELAY IS THE WORST APPROACH. AND THEN, IF YOU GO OVER TO OPTION 2 AND 3, YOU HAVE SECOND STOMACH 16 SECONDS WORTH OF DELAY, WHICH IS THE WORST APPROACH.
(INDISCERNIBLE). IT'S EXPECTED TO HAVE A LITTLE ADDITIONAL DELAY, BUT IT'S ONE SECOND THERE.
1750 AT 27 STREET, THIS IS THE INTERSECTION I WAS SAYING HAD THE SIGHT DISTANCE ISSUES. IF YOU SIGNALIZED IT, WHICH IS THE ONLY MITIGATION WE ARE DOING HERE, IT GOES FROM LOS F TO A. IN THE PM PEAK HOUR, THE SIMILAR POINT HERE WHERE IN THESE RED BOXES, (INDISCERNIBLE) SECONDS OF DELAY IS THE WORST APPROACH. AND THEN IT GOES UP TO 26 SECONDS. FIVE ADDITIONAL SECONDS WORTH OF DELAY. SAME CONCEPT HERE AT 1750.
AFTER YOU SIGNALIZED THIS INTERSECTION, IT PERFORMS MUCH BETTER. OKAY.
SO NOW I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT FM 18 AT 36.
SO THIS IS THE NEW AIRPORT ENTRY POINT THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. AND SO, SIMILAR CONCEPTS HERE.
AS LONG AS WE SIGNALIZED THIS INTERSECTION, IT'S ABLE TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL DEMAND PRETTY WELL.
YOU CAN SEE LOS B AND C AT THE A.M. AND PEAK HOURS.
IT WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE DEMAND WELL.
AND WE ALSO DID AN OPERATIONAL LINK ANALYSIS.
THIS IS BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE FM 18 EXTENSION TO SEE HOW MANY LANES DO WE NEED ALONG THIS SEGMENT.
SO WE LOOKED AT FOUR LANE CONFIGURATIONS AND A THREE LANE CONFIGURATION. THREE LANE CONFIGURATION MEANS ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION PLUS A TURN LANE IN THE MIDDLE.
BOTH OPTIONS PERFORM ADEQUATELY.
BUT I WOULD SAY THE THREE LANE SEGMENT PERFORMS AT A LOS D IN THE PEAK HOUR AS THE FOUR-LANE PERFORMS AT A A OR B IN THE PEAK HOUR. SO WE RECOMMENDED THE FOUR-LANE SEGMENT TO HANDLE ADDITIONAL DEMAND PAST 2032 AS WELL.
KIND OF TRY TO BUILD IT ONCE AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY FROM THE BEGINNING. AND THEN, THIS IS A GRAPHIC OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO 36 IS TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT OF THAT SCREEN. LEFT TURN BAY, RIGHT TURN BAY, PLUS THE FOUR-WAY SEGMENT AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. OKAY.
SO NOW, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ROLE PLOT EXHIBITS THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED HERE AT THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROOM.
SOME JUST GONNA TALK ABOUT EACH ONE OF THESE OPTIONS, SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH. SO OPTION ONE.
SO THIS ONE IS CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT. LET'S ZOOM IN HERE TO THE EAST SIDE OF THIS FACILITY. SO THAT'S THE CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD FROM 1750 ALL THE WAY TO 36.
THIS IS, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THE SAME OR COMMON BETWEEN ALL THE OPTIONS. BUT THIS IS MAINLY TO SERVE THE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA TO PROVIDE GOOD ACCESS TO THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. SO VEHICLES ARE ABLE TO ACCESS ONE WAY FRONTAGE ROAD, RATHER THAN NOT HAVING A SINGLE POINT OF ACCESS. SO THIS WOULD ALLOW MULTIPLE POINTS OF ACCESS. AND THEN, ON THE WEST SIDE, WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE IS THIS IS AN EXISTING ON-RAMP THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSING TO MOVE FROM THIS LOCATION UP STREAM TO THIS LOCATION UP HERE. THE MAIN REASON FOR THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. YOU HAVE SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC AND NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC THAT ARE COMING -- THAT ARE MERGING TOGETHER. AND HE DOES HAVE A SAFETY CONCERN BETWEEN THOSE TWO. SO MOVING THIS IN A LOCATION WHERE THERE IS NO HEAD ON NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC COMING AT YOU IS A SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.RE, ROADWAY AT SHORELINE DRIVE, MAKING THAT LESS OF A SWEEPING CURVE AND MAKING THAT INTO A T INTERSECTION. THIS IS THE SAME THING.
YOU ARE AVOIDING NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND AND COMPETING TRAFFIC WHEN YOU PUT IT AT A STOP CONTROL INTERSECTION, YOU HAVE LESS CONFLICTS THERE. SO THIS IS REALLY THE SAFETY ALTERNATIVE. THE DISADVANTAGE ON THIS ONE
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WOULD BE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, YOU HAVE ONE-WAY TRAFFIC. IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR SCREEN, YOU HAVE TWO WAY TRAFFIC. AND THEN, IT GOES BACK TO ONE-WAY TRAFFIC ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.SO IT KIND OF GOES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THOSE.
SO THE BENEFITS, LIKE I SAID, IS MAINLY TO IMPROVE SAFETY.
OKAY. SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT OPTION , WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT PRIOR. BUT A VERY QUICK BRIEF ON THAT IS ON THE WEST SIDE AGAIN. YOU HAVE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING LYTLE TRAIL.
IN THE BENEFITS OF THIS ONE IS YOU HAVE A CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD GOING FROM 36 ALL THE WAY TO 1750.
THAT GREEN THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS A BRIDGE THAT IS CROSSING OVER THE LYTLE CREEK.
SO IT CHECKS ONE OF THE MPL'S PRIORITIES OF HAVING CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE SEGMENT.
OPTION 2B REDUCES THE CONFLICT POINTS OF SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC COMPETING WITH NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC.
AND OPTION 3 IS CALLED THE NO CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD WEST OF STATE LOOP 322. SO AGAIN ON THIS ONE, NO CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD (INDISCERNIBLE) BRIDGE THAT IS CROSSING OVER LYTLE CREEK. SO THIS REMOVES QUITE A BIT OF THE COST OF PAVEMENT AND BRIDGES.
SO THIS IS MORE OF A COST-EFFECTIVE APPROACH WILL STOP AND SO, IT ALSO MAINTAINS THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD EXACTLY AS IT IS TODAY. AND THEN, JUST ZOOMING IN ON THIS ONE. YOU HAVE THE JUG HANDLE APPROACH THEY ARE TO THE LEFT. BUT LIKE I SAID, IT MAINTAINS THE EXCESS TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY COMMUNITIES THERE AS IT IS TODAY. SO THE BENEFITS OF THIS IS NO CONSTRUCTION ALONG THE LYTLE TRAIL.
NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN TRAFFIC PATTERNS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OBVIOUSLY REDUCED CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
>> QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. I'M CURIOUS WHY YOU DIDN'T CHANGE THE LOCATION OF THE ENTRANCE RAMP (INDISCERNIBLE)
SO WE WANTED TO SHOW DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES.
SO IT CAN BE MOVED IF NEEDED. BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE GOOD ACCESS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS STATE LOOP 322. THESE OPTIONS CAN BE, YOU KNOW, PIECEMEAL. YOU CAN TAKE PIECES OUT OF OPTION ONE AND MOVE IT HERE IF SO DESIRED.
BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW AS MANY OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE.
>> I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.
BECAUSE I SAW THE SAME THING. IN OPTION ONE, YOU HAD A NEW ACCESS RAMP NORTH OF EXPO DRIVE.
>> YES. >> BUT UNDER OPTION 3, IF YOU ARE COMING OFF OF EXPO DRIVE, YOU STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET ON LOOP 322 UNDER THE SCENARIO.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. WE ARE MAINTAINING THE EXISTING ACCESS AND PROVIDING GOOD ACCESS FOR THE COMMUNITY IN
THAT AREA. >> SO THE OPTION, OR (INDISCERNIBLE) SAFETY FACTOR FOR THE NUMBER OF CONFLICT POINTS AT THAT INTERSECTION. BECAUSE YOU ARE ALLOWING THAT ACCESS ROAD TRAFFIC TO GO THROUGH THAT JUG HANDLE, I THINK IS YOUR TERMINOLOGY, BEFORE EXITING TO LOOP 322.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA ON HOW MUCH THAT TRAFFIC PATTERN WOULD CHANGE UNDER MOVING THAT ACCESS RAMP FURTHER NORTH?
ALL THE TRIPS THAT WOULD BE TAKEN, THAT ON-RAMP WOULD GET MOVED FURTHER UPSTREAM. YEAH, THEY WOULD NOT BE GOING THROUGH THAT JUG HANDLE. THEY WOULD BE ACCESSING STATE LOOP 322 FROM THE UPSTREAM INTERSECTION.
RIGHT. >> (INDISCERNIBLE) HAVE TO GO TO 36? FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD? TO END UP BACK ON THERE? IF THE ON-RAMP WAS MOVED FURTHER NORTH, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO 36 TO GET TO THE (INDISCERNIBLE)
>> ARE THEY GONNA TRAVEL SOUTH ON THAT LYTLE WAY UNTIL THEY CAN WORK THEIR WAY BACK TO GO SOUTH ON LOOP 322?
OR ON OPTION 2, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THE CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD ACROSS LYTLE CREEK AND DO A U-TURN, POTENTIALLY, IF THEY WANTED TO GET ONTO NORTHBOUND 322.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS, BUT NOT DIRECT ACCESS. YES.OKAY? THEN, THIS ISOPTION 4. SO WE ARE CALLING THIS THE CONTINUOUS ONE WAY FRONTAGE ROAD . SO ZOOMING IN HERE TO THE WEST SIDE. THIS IS ONE WAY FRONTAGE ROAD FROM 36 ALL THE WAY TO 1750. AND THEN, YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE A T INTERSECTION ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN TAKING OUT THE SWEEPING CURVE AND MAKING IT INTO A STOP CONTROLLED INTERSECTION.HE BENEFITS OF THIS IS THAT YOU GET THE
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CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD AND IT'S A VERY TRADITIONAL TEXAS FRONTAGE ROAD. THE DISADVANTAGES OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY, IS YOU DON'T HAVE NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC.OU ARE LIMITING THE NORTHBOUND FLOWS THAT PEOPLE ARE USED TO, RIGHT? SO YEAH. SO PROS AND CONS TO ALL OF THESE. NOW WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OPINION OF PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.SO AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, OPTION 2 IS MOST EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT HAS MOST PAVEMENT. BUT I'LL START OFF HERE AT THE TOP. THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EAST SIDE AT 322.THIS IS WHAT I SAID WOULD BECOME ACROSS-THE-BOARD. THAT'S $10 MILLION FOR ALL THE OPTIONS. THEN IMPROVEMENTS WEST OF 322.
THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE VARIABILITY.
SO OPTION 2 HAS THE HIGHEST PRICE TAG OF $15 MILLION DUE TO ALL THE PAVEMENT AND THE BRIDGEWORK.
AND, OPTION 3 IS THE LEAST COSTLY AT $500,000, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT DOING THE BRIDGE AND YOU ARE NOT DOING ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL PAVEMENT WORK. SO, OPTION 2 IS 27 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND OPTION 3 IS $13 MILLION.
ALTERNATE A, WHICH IS THE INTERSECTION THERE AT FM 18 AND 36. THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED WITH ANY OF THESE OPTIONS 1 THROUGH 4, JUST BASED OFF WHEN THE AIRPORT WANTS TO DO THAT WORK. THAT'S A $1.5 MILLION.
>> WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? >> FM 18 AT 36?
>> THE 1.5 MILLION --? >> THAT IS FOR THE LEFT TURN BAY GOING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, THE RIGHT TURN BAY, AND THEN
THE SIGNAL. >> AND THE CROSSING WHERE THE
(INDISCERNIBLE) IS RIGHT NOW? >> CORRECT.
>> WAS NOT GOING INTO --. >> NO, NOT GOING INTO THE PARKWAY BOULEVARD. THAT'S JUST THE INTERSECTION ITSELF. GOOD CLARIFICATION.
SO YEAH, I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE.
OUR TEAM, ALONG WITH THE NPO AND POLICY BOARD, IS REALLY RECOMMENDING OPTION TO AS THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
WE THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD BALANCE BETWEEN ADDRESSING THE SAFETYCONCERNS , HAVING THE CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD ALONG THIS WHOLE SEGMENT ON BOTH EAST AND WEST SIDES.
AND SO, FROM AN OPERATIONS PERSPECTIVE, YOU NEED A SOLUTION THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL DEMAND. AND THIS OPTION DOES DELIVER THAT. WE RECOMMEND OPTION 3 AS AN INTERIM ALTERNATIVE. IF THERE'S BUDGET SHORTFALLS OR FUNDING CHALLENGES, THEN OPTION 3 WOULD BE A VERY GOOD INTERIM OR TEMPORARY OPTION TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL DEMAND THAT IS COMING ON THE EAST SIDE.
BUT STILL NOT SACRIFICING THE OPERATIONS.
AS YOU SAW FROM THE EXHIBITS, OPERATIONS WOULD STILL PERFORM WELL. YOU JUST DON'T GET THE CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROAD ACROSS LYTLE IN OPTION 3. BUT WE STILL THINK IT'S A REASONABLE SOLUTION TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL DEMAND OF TRAFFIC.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
OR FURTHER EXPANSION. >> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD WAS ON AN EARLY SLIDE, AND I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER -- THE ONE WHERE YOU HAVE THE TRAFFIC COUNTS.
IT WAS LIKE THE SECOND OR THIRD SLIDE (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> OKAY. THE ONE WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS?
>> WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS. YOU HAD TRAFFIC COUNTS (INDISCERNIBLE) 2027 WITH GREAT LAKES CHEESE.
YES. AND AND PEAK HOURS, YOU HAD 208. AND THERE CAN HAVE 500 EMPLOYEES AND THEY ARE ON SHIPS.
SO I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD HAVE MOST OF THAT TRAFFIC COMING AT A PEAK TIME, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SHOWING UP FOR A SHIFT AT THE SAME TIME. AND THE PM PEAK HOURS IS JUST 89 AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING OFF OR LEAVING AT THE SAME TIME.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW 500 EMPLOYEES WOULD ONLY BE 89
WE USE THE (INDISCERNIBLE) HANDBOOK FOR TRIPS THAT ARE GENERATED BY THIS TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL -- GENERAL INDUSTRIAL LAND USE. SO THOSE ARE THE VALUES THAT
WE'VE USED. >> BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE OR
ACTUAL EMPLOYMENT? >> IT'S BASED ON ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE. SO IT'S 300,000 SQUARE FEET.
YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD --
THE TARGET EMPLOYMENT. >> RIGHT.
>> THEY ARE READY HAVE 200. SO I THINK 89 IS ALREADY SHORT
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(INDISCERNIBLE) PEAK HOURS. THEIR TARGET FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, WHEN THEY ARE FULLY OPERATIONAL, IS 500.>> YEAH, I THINK PART OF THE WAY THE IT CODE LOOKS AT THIS IS THEY LOOK AT SHIFTS AND STAGGERING SHIFTS -- MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM ARE COMING EXACTLY AT THE A.M. PEAK HOUR OR P.M.
PEAK HOUR. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED TO REFLECT THE 200, THE ACTUAL DEMAND THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. I THINK IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IT'S PROBABLY NEGLIGIBLE WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL DAILY, THE 20,000 TRIPS.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE 1100 TOTAL TRIPS.
AND SO, WE HAVE USED A GROWTH FACTOR, A TWO PERCENT GROWTH FACTOR TO ACCOUNT FOR EBBS AND FLOWS AND EXACTLY WHAT THE
TOTAL TRIPS WOULD BE. >> OKAY.
I JUST -- AS A LAYPERSON, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW 500 -- CAME UP WITH 89. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS? >> SO I SEEM TO RECALL DURING THE ORIGINAL PART OF OUR STUDY AND WE WERE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, AND WE WERE GOING TO MAYBE LOOK AT SOME SHORT-TERM, LONG-RANGE AND MIDRANGE OPTIONS? I'VE HEARD SOME OPTIONS BUT HEARD (INDISCERNIBLE) TAKE YEARS TO BUILD. YOU KNOW (INDISCERNIBLE) IF WE IMPLEMENTED IT NOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY YEARS BEFORE (INDISCERNIBLE) CONSTRUCTED.
HAVE YOU EVER LOOKED AT ANY SHORT-TERM OPTIONS TO FIX ANY OF OUR ISSUES THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT IN THE NEAR TERM?
>> YES, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
SO I WILL GO TO THIS SLIDE ON THE RIGHT HERE.
RIGHT HERE.SO THIS -- THE SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN THAT WE MENTION? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE TAKEN OUT OF THE REST OF THE PROJECT AND BE DONE.T'S A LEFT TURN BAY CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT WOULD BE A SHORT-TERM IMPROVEMENT. AND SO, IT WOULD ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE OPERATIONS TO THAT INTERSECTION REGARDLESS OF THE (INDISCERNIBLE) U-TURN. WHICH IS A BIGGER PROJECT.
ALSO, OPTION 3 IS WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER KIND OF A SHORT TERM, LIKE A 2027 IMPROVEMENT THAT COULD BE DONE.
ESPECIALLY THAT JUG HANDLE WOULDN'T BE A SUBSTANTIAL PROJECT. SO THOSE ARE THE -- THE INTERIM SOLUTION, THIS IS WHAT I'M CALLING A SHORT-TERM IMPROVEMENT TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL DEMAND.
>> SO OUTSIDE OF FOUR OR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THE SHORT TERM IS TO BUILD A LEFT TURN LANE COMING OFF A 322?
>> YEAH, DOING THAT. AND ALSO, THE SIGNAL AT 1750 AT 27TH STREET. THAT'S ALSO A SHORT-TERM IMPROVEMENT THAT WOULD IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION QUITE A BIT.
>> HAVE A QUESTION. I THINK IT'S EXHIBIT NUMBER 9 IN THIS, WHERE YOU SHOW THE TRAFFIC PERCENTAGES ON THE NORTHBOUND WEST SIDE. IF YOU CHANGE THAT NORTH OF EXPO DRIVE IS JUST SOUTHBOUND? BASICALLY, ANY NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC WOULD TURN NORTH ONTO EXPO DRIVE?
>> CORRECT. >> ANY SPECULATION ON HOW MUCH THAT WOULD PEEL OFF AND GO ON LYTLE WAY OR CONTINUE DOWN EXP DRIVE ? ANY IMPACT ON (INDISCERNIBLE) TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT SOME POINT, WHERE IS STATE HIGHWAY 36 AND
EXPO DRIVE? >> GREAT QUESTION.
THAT SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT INTERNALLY.
IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT.
BUT I DO THINK THAT YOU ARE GOING TO INCREASE THE DEMAND AT THAT INTERSECTION. AND SO, THAT, FROM A SPACING PERSPECTIVE, WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO SAY 1200 FEET FROM SIGNAL TO SIGNAL. SO THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD CANDIDATE, I WOULD SAY, FOR A PEAK HOUR SIGNAL WARRANT TO BE
EVALUATED. >> BUT THAT WOULD GIVE THE RESIDENTS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD A NORTHBOUND OUTLET -- EXPO DRIVE. INSTEAD OF CONTINUING NORTH DOWN LOOP 322 ACCESS ROAD AT THAT POINT?
>> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE AN EXPECTED RELIEVER ROUTE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.
>> AND YOU REFERENCED THE STAFF AND THE MPO POLICY BOARD.
WERE YOU INTENDING TO SAY THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE?
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ALL RIGHT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD? AND WE HAVE ONE CARD? WILL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS.WE WILL START WITH THE CARD THAT WAS TURNED IN.ND ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
>> I HAVE RICHARD AND TRACY KENNEDY.
>> OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO COME UP.
WE ARE FOLLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL THREE MINUTE TIME.
YOU EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES. (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> I'M RICHARD KENNEDY. I'M A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S IMPACTED BY THIS.
AND HAVE BEEN CONCERNED FOR SOME TIME.
I GUESS I MADE THE POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE ENTRANCE RAMP. IF WE MOVED IT NORTH, HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF EXPO, WHICH IS IMMENSE WHEN THEY HAVE AN EVENT? AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO 322, THEY END UP WITH THEIR HORSE TRAILERS AND BIG TRUCKS ON OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET.
THERE IS A MAJOR CONCERN ABOUT MOVING THAT ENTRANCE RAMP ANY FURTHER NORTH. BECAUSE THEN IT FORCES THEM INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD SURFACE STREETS.
TO GET OUT TO THERE. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WORK INVOLVED IN THIS, APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME VERY MUCH AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO ON IT. BUT WE DO WANT TO CONSIDER THAT'S A QUIET, OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD WITH VERY LIMITED STREETS TO IT THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED GREATLY IF WE MAKE ACTIONS THAT END UP -- WHEN YOU TAKE PEAK PERIODS, FOOTBALL SEASON (INDISCERNIBLE) IN THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S THERE AND PEOPLE JUST LOOKING FOR A WAY OUT -- THEN IT CAN MAKE A BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE AROUND THERE.
Y'ALL SEEM TO HAVE DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK.
I KNOW THERE IS NO EASY SOLUTION FOR THIS.
BUT THAT'S ONE THING I REALLY NOTICED IN MOVING THAT ENTRANCE POINT FURTHER NORTH, TO AVOID THE TWO WAY TRAFFIC, YOU MAY BE CUTTING OFF THE EXIT OF YOUR RV AND TRUCK PARKING THERE, LEAVING THE EXPO CENTER. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> HI, MY NAME IS TRACY KENNEDY. MY CONCERNS ARE ABOUT LIKE RICHARDS. ONLY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF REQS WE HAD AT THAT TWO WAY INTERSECTION NOW? BECAUSE I'VE LIVED THERE FOR NINE YEARS.
I'VE NOT SEEN ONE. SO DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON THAT? AND ALSO, THERE'S TWO EXITS. YOU CAN GET OFF AT SH 36 AND COME DOWN OFF THE ACCESS ROAD. AND THERE'S ONE OVER THE BRIDGE. THAT WAY WE GET TO MISS ALL THE HORSE TRAILERS AND TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING.
HAVE WE LOOKED AT THAT? OR ARE WE GOING TO DO AWAY WITH THAT? BECAUSE IF NOT, WE HAVE TO SIT BEHIND EVERY HORSE TRAILER. AND THEY HAVE EVENTS EVERY WEEKEND AT THE TAYLOR TELECOM CENTER.
EVERY WEEKEND, IT IS BUSY. AND I SEE PEOPLE TAKING NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND TRIPS UP THERE.
THAT'S WHAT I GO TO WORK. I GO UP SOUTH, WAIT FOR THE TRAFFIC GOES, AND GO. HOW MANY FATAL REQS HAVE WE HAD THERE? BECAUSE YOU ARE RUNNING ALL THE TRAFFIC UP THROUGH THE EXPO, WHERE IS WHERE ALL THE FOOTBALL GAMES ARE AT. THEY HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING OUT OF THERE NOW. IN AND OUT.
ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO -- I'D HATE TO SEE US LOSE THAT LITTLE ACCESS ROAD AFTER THE BRIDGE, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE STUCK TRYING TO GET OFF WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
>> (INDISCERNIBLE), IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, THAT
WOULD BE GREAT. >> THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS
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ARE. ON THE FIRST COMMENT ABOUT MOVING THE ACCESS POINT FURTHER UP NORTH? I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT. THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO SHOW ALL FOUR OPTIONS THAT PIECE MEALS ALL THOSE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL POSSIBILITIES.SO AGREED WITH THE CONCERN AND OPTION 2 DOES NOT HAVE THAT. WE STILL MAINTAIN THE EXISTING ACCESS POINT AS IT IS. SO I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY HELP ALLEVIATE THAT CONCERN. AND THEN, GOING BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE CRASHES. YEAH, SO TXDOT MAINTAINS A DATABASE THAT SHOWS ALL THE CRASHES ALONG THE ENTIRE STATE.AND SO, WE CAN PULL ALL THE CRASH DATA TO LOOK AT THIS EXISTING AREA. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE TEXAS INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION HAS DONE EXTENSIVE STUDIES ON TWO WAY FRONTAGE ROADS, AND IT SHOWS TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT TWO WAY FRONTAGE ROADS DO HAVE A SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER AMOUNT OF CRASHES THAN TYPICAL ONE WAY FRONTAGE ROAD. DUE TO JUST THE NATURE OF HAD ON VEHICLES AND HAVING TO WEAVE IN AND OUT OF TRAFFIC.
SO THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED THROUGH LITERATURE AND RESEARCH THAT THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION INSTITUTE HAS PERFORMED.SO THAT'S THE MAIN REASON FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO ALLEVIATE
THOSE SAFETY CONCERNS. >> MR. FERNANDO, WOULDN'T YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, THOUGH, THE FACT THAT WHAT MAY BE ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE HAVING THAT IS BECAUSE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DIVERSION -- NOT DIVERSION IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR -- ITS DIFFERENCES IN HOW WE HANDLE THOSE ACCESS ROADS.
BUT THEY WERE ALL ONE WAY AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY ARE ALL ONE WAY ACCESS ROADS, THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE COLLISION POINTS WITH THE TRAFFIC IS COMING TOGETHER.
SO I THINK AS WE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IS TRYING TO GET ALL OF THOSE ACCESS ROADS CONVERTED ONE WAY. THIS PARTICULAR AREA, THOUGH, HAS A LONG HISTORY OF THIS. I CAN REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST TOOK OFFICE IN THE SCHEMA. MY CONCERN WAS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE STREETS DON'T HAVE CURBS.
IT'S A VERY RURAL SORT OF SETTING.
IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY. ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO KEEP THAT TRAFFIC OUT OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A VERY REAL CONCERN.
AND SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS ON THE SLIDES THEY SHOWED AT THE TIME -- THERE'S NO WAY A TRAILERS GOING TO GET IN THE STOMACH THOSE STREETS GET PAST THE VEHICLES THAT ARE IN THERE.
SO AS I LOOK THROUGH THESE DESK OF THE SCHEMATIC THINGS THIS MORNING OR THIS AFTERNOON -- I BEEN LOOKING AND WATCHING VERY CAREFULLY ABOUT WHAT'S IS GOING TO DO IN TERMS OF THIS TRAFFIC? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I MIGHT FEEL ANY BETTER ABOUT IT THAT WE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE SHORTCUTS TO GET FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER AND ARE GONNA GO THROUGH THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. I THOUGHT OF THE POSSIBILITY TO POST SIGNS SAY NO TRUCKS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
NO TRUCKS OR TRAILERS. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO. SO I THINK, LIKE ALL OF US COME OVER TRY TO FIND THE SAFEST WAY TO GET THIS DONE IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO GET THIS DONE. SO --.
>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
IN REFERENCING TO THE RAMPS THAT ARE NORTHBOUND -- EXCUSE ME, SOUTHBOUND ON LOOP 322 THAT ONE TO EXIT THE WEST FRONTAGE ROAD. ARE YOU CHANGING ANY OF THOSE RAMPS CONFIGURATIONS BEFORE THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY 36 OR
AFTER HIGHWAY 36? >> NO, WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE OFF RAMPS NORTH OF EXPO. NO.
>> OKAY. PSO THOSE ARE GOING TO STAY IN
THIS PROPOSAL AT THIS TIME? >> CORRECT.
THE MAIN REASON THAT WOULD STAY IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE NORTHBOUND CONFLICTING TRAFFIC, THAT RAMP IS JUST A TRADITIONAL OFFRAMP, RIGHT? SO THERE IS NO REASON TO REMOVE THAT AND REMOVE ACCESS FOR THE TAYLOR EXPO CENTER.
>> OF THE SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC ON LOOP 322, IF THEY WANT TO GO OVER HIGHWAY 36, THEY CAN EXIT SOUTH OF THERE AND GET ONTO THE
>> CAN YOU GET US BACK TO THE OPTION TO SLIDE QUIT ON EQUITY WHICH MAY BE A LITTLE CLEARER? SO THIS IS OPTION 2. THIS IS, AGAIN, THE WEST SIDE. IS THAT DARK AREA THERE AN EXISTING RAMP THAT YOU ARE GOING TO REMOVE?
>> THE DARK AREA? THAT IS CORRECT.
YES. THE CROSS-HATCHED AREA IN THE CENTER OF THE SCREEN, THAT IS A RAMP THAT WOULD BE REMOVED AND
RELOCATED FURTHER TO THE SOUTH. >> AND THEN, IT APPEARS TO ME IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, YOU HAVE ANOTHER -- IT LOOKS LIKE A RED RAMP BETWEEN THE TWO WAY EXISTING FRONTAGE ROAD, WHICH IS LYTLE WAY. YOU HAVE ANOTHER EXIT RAMP OFF
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>> EXITING ONTO THIS ONE WAY FRONTAGE ROAD.
WHICH WOULD THEN, WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXIT ON LOOP
THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO THE TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF EXPO DRIVE, WHICH WOULD COME OUT OF EITHER THE FOOTBALL GAME OR THE EXPO CENTER, IT WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXIT RIGHT, TRAVEL DOWN LIGHT AWAY, WHICH WOULD BE A TWO WAY FRONTAGE ROAD, EXIT OFF OF THAT ONTO THE ONE-WAY FRONTAGE ROAD,
AND THEN EXIT ONTO LOOP 322? >> THAT'S RIGHT.
THEY WOULD HAVE TWO MANEUVERS TO GET ONTO 322.
AND OPTION 2B THERE, IT'S LITTLE HARD TO SEE BUT THAT IS ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TO MAKE THAT INTERSECTION A STOP CONTROLLED INTERSECTION. SO THAT WAY, YOU AVOID THE CONCERNS OF THE SOUTHBOUND AND NORTHBOUND CONFLICTING TRAFFIC.
SO THAT WAS ONE WAY WE WERE TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT CONCERN. YOU STOP THE INTERSECTION, MAKE A LEFT TURN, AND YOU WERE ABLE TO GET ONTO THE FRONTAGE ROAD
AND GET BACK ON TWO 322. >> OKAY.
SO SOUTH OF THAT LOCATION WHERE YOU ARE EXITING ON THE LOOP 322, YOU CAN HAVE A ONE-WAY FRONTAGE ROAD AND YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD A BRIDGE OVER LYTLE CREEK. GUESS I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO USE THAT. THAT SMALL PORTION.
AND IT'S REALLY A LOW VOLUME THAT WOULD BE USING THAT EXTENSION. THE MAIN IDEA BEHIND THAT WAS WE WANTED TO HAVE CONTINUOUS FRONTAGE ROADS ALONG THIS ENTIRE SEGMENT FOR CONTINUITY SAKE.
>> IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT. >> IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT AND IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS VEHICLES.
IF THERE IS A WRECK ON 322, YOU WOULD HAVE A BETTER OUTFLOW, RIGHT? PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO EXIT AND CONTINUE ON FORWARD, RATHER THAN BEING STUCK ON THE HIGHWAY. SO CONTINUITY, SAFETY.
BUT AGREED, I THINK IT WOULDN'T BE A HEAVILY UTILIZED SEGMENT.
IT WOULD MAINLY BE PEOPLE WHO WERE TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT ONTO
AND THEN, OVER ON THE EAST SIDE.
I KNOW WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE WEST SIDE.
IN YEARS PAST, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT FRONTAGE ROADS OVER ON THE EAST SIDE. AND MAYBE THE CITY CAN -- BECAUSE THAT WAS AIRPORT PROPERTY, A LOT OF IT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ANY DEVELOPMENT.
BUT I'M HEARING TODAY THAT MAYBE THE AIRPORT MAY BE OPENING THE DOOR TO SOME DEVELOPMENT.
SO ARE WE ANTICIPATING WE ARE GOING TO SEE SOME DEVELOPMENT
ON THE EAST SIDE? >> (INDISCERNIBLE) CAN ANSWER
>> THERE'S THE PICTURE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DON GREEN DIRECTOR TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.
THE THREE AREAS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THROUGH OUR LAND USE PLAN, AREA B IS OUR MOST LIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE SOONEST AMOUNT OF TIME. IN FACT, WE EXPECT TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY, WE ARE A CONVENIENCE STORE WILL BE OPENING UP WHERE THAT ROAD IS CREATED.
SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE THINK THAT WILL BE THE CATALYST TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. AND WE'RE WORKING ON GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO CONSTRUCT THE REST OF THAT ROAD DOWN TO AIRPORT BOULEVARD. THAT IS, I HOPE, I THINK -- IS IMMINENT. THAT'S WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE INSIDE STORE BUILT.
AND HOPEFULLY, FURTHER DEVELOPMENT FOLLOWS THAT.
>> ARE YOU PLANNING ON MOVING THE AIRPORT ENTRANCE UP TO AN INTERSECTION THAT WOULD BE AN EXTENSION OF FM 18?
>> MY EXPECTATION IS THAT WOULD BE THE PREFERRED ENTRANCE FOR PEOPLE. BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE THAT
INTERSECTION TO BE SIGNALIZED. >> MM-HMM.
>> SO I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
I'M NOT PLANNING ON THE CURRENT AIRPORT BOULEVARD TO BE TAKEN OUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY 36.
IT'S JUST THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE, PROBABLY, FOR OUR USERS, EMPLOYEES AND PASSENGERS TO USE THE NEW ROAD.
>> WELCOME. >> WE ARE STILL THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS TOPIC? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. LISA, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD ON WHICH OF THE FOUR OPTIONS (INDISCERNIBLE) IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING?
>> IFTHE BOARD WOULD CARE TO DO THAT?
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REALLY, JUST ACCEPTANCE OF THIS REPORT -- .THE PROJECTS WILL FOLLOW INTO AN ACTUAL PROJECT SELECTION PROCESS WHEN WE GET FURTHER INTO IT.
BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I KNOW THERE IS NOT FUNDING CURRENTLY AVAILABLE FOR THESE PROJECTS.
AND SO, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT ACCEPTANCE OF THE REPORT.
>> SO THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE TAC AND (INDISCERNIBLE) FUTURE
>> OKAY. >> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE CORRECTION YOU FOUND WITH LIGHT AWAY AND LYTLE TRAIL (INDISCERNIBLE) WILL GET THAT CORRECTED.
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
AND IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT AS PRESENTED.
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>> SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> I'LL SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE.
>> ANY POST? THE REPORT IS ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED WITH THE CORRECTION THAT WASMENTIONED.
WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 6 DISCUSS AND REVIEW OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.IRST UP, WE HAVE TXDOT PROJECTS.
(INDISCERNIBLE) . >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
AND BRYCE (NAME) WITH THE ABILENE AREA OFFICE OF TXDOT.
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT OUR CURRENT AND PLANNED PROJECTS FOR TXDOT. RON IS A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW! I DON'T HAVE ANY SLIDES OR ANYTHING! [LAUGHTER] IF IT'S OKAY WITH Y'ALL, I'M IN A START IN REVERSE ORDER. ON THE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE RECENTLY COMPLETED AND WORK MY WAY BACK TO THE PLAN PROJECT.
OUR LIST OF CURRENT CONSTRUCTION IS MUCH SHORTER THAN LAST TIME WE ARE HERE. BECAUSE WE RECENTLY COMPLETED (INDISCERNIBLE) SIDEWALK (INDISCERNIBLE).
WE ALSO COMPLETED THE FM (INDISCERNIBLE) SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. AND SO, MOVING INTO OUR CURRENT CONSTRUCTION. WE DO HAVE THE ILLUMINATION PROJECT ON SOUTH FIRST. THAT PROJECT IS STILL IN THE CONTRACT THE DELAY START FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE TRAFFIC MATERIALS. I THINK THAT TIME EXPIRES IN JANUARY. WE ARE TRYING TO GET AN UPDATE FROM THE CONTRACTOR TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ON TRACK TO BE ABLE TO START LATE JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY.HE NET PROJECT IS BUFFALO GAP ROAD, BOTH OF THOSE CS TRAYS ARE RELATED TO THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION NEAR (INDISCERNIBLE) MALL OF ABILENE.
WE ARE ABOUT 25 PERCENT COMPLETE WITH A PROJECT.
I THINK YOU SEEN WE START DOING THE CONCRETE PAVEMENT.
WE STILL GOT A LOT OF DRAINAGE WORK GOING ON.
THE THINGS ARE MOVING PRETTY WELL.
THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE EYE 20 OVERLY THAT PROJECT IS ABOUT 25, 30 PERCENT COMPLETE. WE BEEN DOING THE OVERLAYS, THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ON THE GUARDRAIL.
AND WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER BRIDGE RELATED ITEMS THAT WE ARE STARTING (INDISCERNIBLE). ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY CURRENT CONSTRUCTION? HEARING NONE, OUR PLANNED PROJECTS. SO WE WILL START AT THE TOP.
STOP ME OR INTERRUPT ME IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ONE IN PARTICULAR. THE TWO AT THE TOP, THEY'RE THE SAME PROJECT. THEY ARE THE LANDFILL ROAD PROJECT. OUR SCHEMATICS ON THAT ONE ARE ABOUT 90 PERCENT COMPLETE. WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED THE (INDISCERNIBLE) PROCESS.E ARE ABOUT HALFWAY'S, 60 PERCENT ON THAT. THE FINAL DESIGN FOR THAT PROJECT. THE NEXT ONE, SITE NUMBER 3, FM 1082. WE HAD THE DCC -- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DCC FOR THAT PROJECT THIS MONTH.
THAT'S THE DAMN ROAD PROJECT. SO WE ARE MOVING.
ANY QUESTIONS? FOLLOW-UP? WERE GOOD? HEARING NONE, THE NEXT ONE IS US 277 PAVEMENT REHAB PROJECT (INDISCERNIBLE) TO THE SOUTH.
THAT PROJECT, THE PLANS ARE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
IT'S SAFETY REHAB LOGIC.T'S GOT SAFETY TREATMENTS ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THE NEXT PROJECT, FM 707.
WE HAD OUR FIRST PUBLIC MEETING, I THINK THAT WAS LAST WEEK? IT'S ALL A BLUR NOW.
THAT PROJECT IS MOVING ALONG. THE NEXT ONE IS ALSO ON FM 1082. THAT'S A SAFETY PROJECT.
THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STRETCH OVER FROM THE DAM.
FM 605, SITE SEVEN. THE PROJECT IS JUST GETTING STARTED. IT'S A RESURFACING PROJECT AND
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RESTORING THE ROAD. STATE HIGHWAY 36, THAT'S THE SIDEWALKS AND RAMPS ON SOUTH 11.THAT PROJECT. THE PSN DEED JUST HAS GOTTEN UNDERWAY AND IT'S GOING PRETTY GOOD.
WE ARE GETTING ASSISTANCE FROM AUSTIN DESIGN DIVISION ON THOSE PLANS.SITE NUMBER 9 IS THE EAST SOUTH SEVENTH STREET BRIDGE REPLACEMENT. THAT DESIGN IS GOING PRETTY WELL. WE ARE ABOUT 75 PERCENT COMPLETE. (INDISCERNIBLE) PROJECT IS ON TRACK. SITE 10, FM 3034.
THAT'S THE OTHER SECTION OF THE LANDFILL ROAD PROJECT, EAST OF THE OVERPASS. SITE 11, THAT'S THE BREAKUP PROJECT FOR THE SIX LANE WIDENING OF I 20.
THAT IS THE STRETCH AROUND GEORGINA BOULEVARD (INDISCERNIBLE). RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE ARE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS WITH THE PS AND E.
GETTING A CONSULTANT ON BOARD. SITE 12 IS THE NEXT OVERLY PROJECT ON I 20, TO THE WEST THAT IS ONGOING RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN, 13, 14, 15, 16 AND 17? THEIR KIND ABOUT THE SAME THING.
THESE ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT WE GOT AS PART OF A SAFETY PROJECT CALL THAT AUSTIN DID. WE GOT 21 MILLION OUT OF ABOUT 50 MILLION STATEWIDE TO DO THESE MEDIUM BARRIER PROJECTS.
SITES 13, 14 AND 16, THEY WILL ALL (INDISCERNIBLE) TOGETHER.
AND THEN, 15 AND 17 WILL FOLLOW AFTER THOSE.
THAT'LL GIVE MEDIAN BARRIERS EITHER CABLE OR CONCRETE THROUGH ALL OF OUR CORE DOORS THAT ARE DIVIDED HIGHWAYS.
AND FINALLY, FM 1750. THAT'S THE SCHEMATIC SOUTH OF INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD. THAT PROJECT IS JUST GETTING ROLLING.THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS?
>> ANY QUESTIONS OF BRYCE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THINK Y'ALL. >> SIMILARLY, I'LL GO THROUGH THE PROJECTS THAT ARE BASICALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WE HAVE NORTH SIX AT CYPRESS STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE DOWNTOWN HOTEL THAT IS COMING IN. WE'VE GOT THAT PROJECT TO APPOINT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO COORDINATE WITH THE HOTEL TO (INDISCERNIBLE) THEIR SAFETY ZONE.
(INDISCERNIBLE). BUT WE'RE GOING HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW WITH THEM AND PROCEED WITH THAT PROJECT.
THE EAST-NORTH 10TH IMPROVEMENTS FROM (INDISCERNIBLE) TO JUDGE HEALY, IT'S PRETTY WELL 100 PERCENT COMPLETE. WE STILL HAVE SOME STRIPING TO DO AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME BRIDGE MAINTENANCE.
BUT ALL THE PAVEMENT IS DONE. THE WORK AROUND THE RAILROAD IS COMPLETE. IT RIDES REALLY SMOOTH COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. SO WE ARE PROUD OF THAT.
THE TWO PROJECTS WE BID JUST RECENTLY AND WE HAD AWARDED IS THE HONEY HONEYBEE PROJECT AND THE FIVE POINTS ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. (INDISCERNIBLE).
(AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). THAT ALSO INCLUDED AN ALTERNATE TO IMPROVE MARIGOLD BACK TO (NAME) BOULEVARD.
WHICH WILL MAKE THAT A COMPLETE CONCRETE SECTION STREET FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER. I HAD MAPLE STREET FROM CARRIAGE HILLS TO THE LOOP. WE DID RECEIVE BIDS.
I THINK I ANTICIPATED HAVING THAT THE COUNCIL BY NOW.
BUT THAT WILL BE GOING TO COUNCIL IN JANUARY.
SO PROVIDED THAT'S APPROVED, THAT WILL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.
EPIC CONSTRUCTION WAS THE LOW BIDDER ON THAT ONE.
THEN UNDER DESIGN.S YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 36 MILLION,CLOSE TO $37 MILLION WITH A PROJECT TO DESIGN .
WE HAVE OUR WORKS ON PROJECTS THAT WE WILL START ROLLING OUT IN JANUARY FOR SPRING PAVING. WE DID GO TO OUR STREET ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WE ADDED TWO WORKS OWNS TO OUR WORKLOAD FOR THIS YEAR. WORKS ZONE S5 AND WORKS OWN S 13. WE WILL BE DESIGNING THOSE TO BID OUT IN JUNE, JUNE TO JULY, SO THERE WILL BE MORE OF A FALL PAVING AFTER WE GET DONE WITH OUR FIRST ROUND OF PAVING.
EAST NORTH 10TH, JUDGE ELY TO LOOP 322 IS ALMOST 100 PERCENT
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DESIGN. WILL BE DOING THE FINAL DESIGN REVIEW THIS WEEK. AND, WE WILL BE READY TO ADVERTISE THAT ONE 8 JANUARY. MAPLE STREET -- ALSO THE (INDISCERNIBLE) TWO-WAY CONVERSION.(INDISCERNIBLE) BY ADDING THE QUARTER WERE TO TWO WAY.
THE OTHER SIGNALS WILL BE REMOVED AND A TWO WAY STOP WILL BE SET UP FOR THOSE. THAT PROJECT IS 100 PERCENT DESIGN. WE ARE PREPARING A CONTRACT NOW TO GET READY TO ADVERTISE THE PROJECT AS WELL.
WE ARE HOPING THAT WILL BE COMPLETED ALONG WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE HOTEL PROJECT AS WELL.
AND ALSO, THE STREET ADVISORY COMMITTEE ALSO SELECTED A GROUP OF INTERSECTIONS TO LOOK AT FOR CONCRETE.SOUTH WILLIS AT SEVEN, PINE AT 10TH, 18TH AT KIRKWOOD, 14TH AT WESTWOOD.
SO WE WILL BE DESIGNING ALL OF THOSE FOR CONCRETE IMPROVEMENTS, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
AND IF IT'S A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION, WE WILL ALSO LOOK AT IMPROVING AND UPGRADING THE SIGNAL AS NEEDED.
WE ALSO HAVE THE SOUTH 14TH WALK ABILITY PROJECT, SIDEWALK PROJECT. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN DESIGN ON THAT. THAT WILL BE PLANNED TO BID IN MAY 2023. AND ALSO, THE SOUTH 27TH FROM BARROW TO DANVILLE PROJECT. WE WILL BE DESIGNING THAT TO BE BID OUT IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
I KIND OF HOPPED AROUND.I GUESS OUR BIGGEST PROJECT ON THE LIST THAT I DIDN'T MENTION IS MAPLE STREET, FROM LOOP 322 TO E SOUTH 11. CONSIDERING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF MAPLE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY DOING -- GOING UP E SOUTH 11TH AND WORKING OUR WAY BACK TO SOUTH 11,000 INTERIM PHASE.
JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE ALL PARTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE LOOP UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME. BUT BASICALLY, THAT FULL QUARTER WERE FROM THE LOOP TO E SOUTH 11TH WILL BE DESIGNED, WILL BE PHASING (INDISCERNIBLE).
THAT WILL ALSO CHOP IT UP A LITTLE BIT FOR THE SIZE OF BIDS FOR CONTRACTORS TO BID ON DURING THAT TIME AS WELL.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU, SCOTT.
ANY QUESTIONS? APPRECIATE THAT.
AND LAUREN IS PRESENTING (INDISCERNIBLE) FOR CITYLINK.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, LAUREN STEVENS WITH CITYLINK.
WE HAVE THREE THINGS TO REPORT THE SESSION.
CITYLINK HAS PARTNERED WITH FIRST TRANSIT AND (NAME) TO IMPLEMENT THE MICRO PILOT PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE IN THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE CITY.
IT WILL REPLACE THE ROUTE 10, WHICH IS OUR LEAST PERFORMING ROUTE THAT WE HAVE. IT'S GOING TO OFFER MORE TRANSIT TO PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY AREN'T ABLE TO GET TO SOME OF THE PLACES DUE TO THE RESTRICTION OF THE ROUTES.
THE SERVICE WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE ON-CALL PROJECT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING. WE BEEN RUNNING IT FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS IN THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF ABILENE.
THE PROJECT WILL ALSO INTRODUCE RIGHT HEEL TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL ALLOW THE PASSENGERS TO GO ON AND DO THEIR OWN RIDE SCHEDULING. SO THIS (INDISCERNIBLE) IS SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 2023. THAT'S THE ORIGINAL DATE.
IT COULD BE PUSHED OUT SLIGHTLY, DEPENDING ON SOME OF THE PRIORITIES OF DOING PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE SECOND ONE, WE HAD RECEIVED NOTICE THAT TWO LARGE BUSES THAT WERE SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR HAS BEEN PUSHED OUT TO APRIL. THIS IS DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES. (INDISCERNIBLE) IS (INDISCERNIBLE) COMPLETE THE PROJECT ON THE VEHICLES.
THE LAST ONE, WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED AND FIT INTO OUR FIXED ROUTE VEHICLES, OUR AUTOMATED VOICE ANNOUNCEMENT, ABA SYSTEM. THERE ARE SOME REFINEMENTS TO DO, BUT IT IS FULLY OPERATIONAL.OME OF THE PASSENGERS SAY IT'S A LITTLE ANNOYING -- [LAUGHTER] -- BUT A LOT OF THEM REALLY
ENJOY IT! >> WHAT IS IT, ANNOUNCE THE
COMING STOPS? >> IT SAYS, "YOUR NEXT STOP IS
GOING TO BE --" AND LEAVING. >> GREAT.
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THANK YOU, LAUREN. ANY QUESTIONS? APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. THAT CONCLUDES ITEM NUMBER 6.WE MOVED TO ITEM NUMBER 7 DISCUSS AND REVIEW (INDISCERNIBLE) FINANCIAL STATUS.
>> INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET THE FISCAL YEAR END FOR 2022.
IT ALSO INCLUDES BILLING NUMBER 11 AND 12 WHICH CLOSES OUT THE 2022 YEAR. THAT IS FOR THE AUGUST ONE WAS 32 EIGHT 3802. IN THE SEPTEMBER ONE WAS 12,906 AND $0.83. THAT BRINGS THE AUTHORIZATION AMOUNT OF 496 TO 7294. THE EXPENDITURE TO -- --.
AND THE REMAINING BALANCE, WHICH WILL BE THE CARRYOVER FUNDS OF 256 607 AND $0.99. IF YOU LOOK OVER THERE IN FISCAL YEAR 2023, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED OUR FIRST WORK ORDER YET, WHICH WE NORMALLY RECEIVED BACK IN OCTOBER.
CURRENTLY TXDOT IS REVAMPING HOW THEY ARE WITH DISTRIBUTING THAT. THEY ARE GIVING A CHARGE ORDER TO EACH MPO AND THAT'S TAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
THEY SAID WHEN I WENT TO THE (INDISCERNIBLE) MEETING LAST WEEK, THEY ARE HOPING TO HAVE THAT TO US BY THE END OF THIS WEEK OR THE FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK.
SO WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR THAT INFORMATION COMING.
IN THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS COMING OUT.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FINANCIAL.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.EXT IS OPERATIONS
REPORT. >> INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS A FULL OPERATIONAL REPORT. THIS RUNS FROM OCTOBER 12 THROUGH (INDISCERNIBLE). REALLY TRYING TO GET RAMPED UP WITH THE OFFICE POSITIONS. AND THEN, JUST REALLY DOING SOME TRAINING, GETTING YEAR END REPORTS DONE.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS REALLY THE YEAR END REPORTS. WE DID SOME TRAININGS AND SOME OTHER MEETINGS THAT WE ATTENDED.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY OPERATIONS REPORT.
>> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON OPERATIONS?
I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MS. RITA RYAN.HE STARTED WITH US IN OCTOBER WE ARE SO VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT! WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNER POSITION, BUT WE ARE VERY HAPPY THAT (NAME) HAS JOINED US AS OUR OFFICE ASSISTANT.
WE ARE WAITING ON TXDOT FOR THE ANNUAL LISTING FOR THE OBLIGATED PROJECTS. THEY ALSO SAID LAST WEEK THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT TO US SOMETIME PROBABLY IN JANUARY.
SO WE HAVE A BIT OF A DELAY ON THAT.
BUT THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AND EXPENDITURE REPORT IS DUE THIS THURSDAY AND YOUR MPO STAFF IS WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY ON MAKING SURE WE MEET THOSE DEADLINES.
I BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
>> ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DIRECTORS REPORT? OKAY.ILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 8, OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO MAKE COMMENTS ON NPO ISSUES.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT MPO ISSUES? SEEING NO ONE, I'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 9, OPPORTUNITY FOR BOARD NUMBERS, TECHNICAL ADVISORY MEMBERS OR MPO STAFF TO RECOMMEND TOPICS FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION OR ACTION. IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER FOR FUTURE MEETINGS? SEEING NOTHING, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 10, WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT.
OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 21, 2023.
HOPE EVERYONE HAS A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR
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