Feb 08, 2023 Airport Development Board Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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OKAY, FEBRUARY THE 8TH, 2023. I WANT TO INTRODUCE A COUPLE OF FOLKS APPROPRIATE FOR YOU MR. BLACK TO TALK ABOUT YOURSELF. HOW YOU'VE COME BY THIS POSITION TO ALL OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HERE. SO, IT'S YOU'RE FLOOR.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO BE PUT ON

THE SPOT HERE. >> WELL, IT SAYS SO, RIGHT

HERE. >> I'M DARRIN BLACK, I'M A RETIRED OWNER OF BLACK PLUMBING AND PRESENTLY STILL WORKING AT A PROPERTY COMPANY THAT WE OWN AND RUNNING THAT. AND, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE PUT ON THE BOARD SEVERAL YEARS AGO. AS PART OF THE CHAMBER POSITION THAT OPENED UP AND ALLOWED ME THIS OPPORTUNITY. I STARTED ON EIGHT OTHER BOARDS, ONE STATE BORED AND CONTINUED TO ENJOY SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. I'M GLAD

TO BE HERE. THERE YOU GO. >> THANK YOU FOR THE NOMINATION AND THE SELECTION OF COURSE OF THE VVICE CHAIR POSITION.

>> I'M A PRIVATE PILOT, AND I'VE FLOWN 1100 HOUR'S WORTH.

NOT QUITE AS MANY AS WOODY, DOWN THERE HAS, BUT, INTIMATELY AWARE OF EVERY TAXWAY, RUNWAY, OF EVERY ABILENE REGIONAL AIRPORT.

I'VE BEEN IN EVERY HANGERS, THAT WAS THE ONE RESTORED FROM THE EAA HANGER FROM THE DILAPIDATED FALLING DOWN. SO, I'VE BEEN AROUND THE AIRPORT A LOT, AVIATION A LOT. VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE MILITARY AFFAIRS WITH THE ABILENE CHAMBER, AND I LOVE AVIATION. IT'S A FITTING ROLE FOR ME, TO SERVE WITH, SEVERAL OF Y'ALL ON OTHER BOARDS AS WELL. AND, UM, A JOINT LAND USE STUDY BOARD AS WELL. SO, THAT'S ME. THANK YOUFUL TO BE IN THIS POSITION, DIDN'T KNOW THAT I WAS GOING TO BE IN THIS POSITION AS I WAS ELECTED LAST GO-AROUND, BUT, HAPPY TO BE HERE.

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>> OKAY. MINUTES. CONSIDER THE ACTIONS OF APPROVING THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 11TH, 2022. MINUTES ARE IN YOUR PACKET. DO

I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

>> I'LL SECOND. >> CHAIR BRIDWELL: THANK

Y'ALL. >> AND WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT

TOO. >> CHAIR BRIDWELL: AND A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR? (CHORUS OF AYES). >> CHAIR BRIDWELL: ALL

[3. Airport Management Reports]

REPORTS. ARE WE READY? >> YEAH, I THINK WE ARE READY.

SO, WE HAVE OUR TYPICAL REPORT FORMAT THAT REPRESENTS THE MONTH OF JANUARY. SO, YOU SEE ON THE WE STARTED THE YEAR OFF OKAY, WE'RE UP AT 2%. THE CALENDAR YEAR, AGAIN, THAT'S 2% ALL TOTAL. WELL, 1%, FOR ENVOY REVENUE. THE NON-REVENUE PASSENGERS ARE THOSE WHO ARE NOT PAYING FOR THEIR FAIRS, SO, THEY DON'T PAY ANY OF THE FEES. IT IS, TYPICALLY, ENVOY OR AIRLINE EMPLOYEES WHO TRAVEL THAT WAY. SOMETIMES, WE SEE MORE THAN WHAT YOU TYPICALLY WOULD FOR OUR SIZE AIRPORT BECAUSE OF THE EAGLE AVIATION FACILITY HERE, SO, THAT KIND OF BOOSTS UP OUR NON-REV STUFF. BUT, OUR REAL METRIC IS THE REVENUE PASSENGERS, THOSE ARE THE ONES FROM THE COMMUNITY AND CHOOSING TO FLY AVI. SO, WE WERE UP 1% FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY. AND THEREFORE, THE CALENDAR YEAR. A LOAD FACTOR OF 56% AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT IS WITH THE E 175, THE 76 AIRCRAFT, WE NEED TO

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REMEMBER, THEY REPORT TWO MONTHS BEHIND. SO, THAT IS ACTUALLY,

THE DECEMBER COUNTS. >> LOOKING AT

>> WAS IT DECEMBER THAT WE HAD THE REDUCED FLIGHT SCHEDULE?

>> WE DID, WE SAW A REDUCED SCHEDULE AND IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE TALKED ABOUT AMERICAN REDUCING THEIR SCHEDULE OVERALL BY 18% IN DECEMBER ANTICIPATING THEY WOULD NOT HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO OVERCOME ANY KIND OF SETBACKS WHICH WE SAW WITH THE VERY COLD WEATHER AND THE STORM IN THE NORTHEAST AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME, AMERICAN, FAIRED OKAY. PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE OTHER MAJOR CARRIERS DID, IN MY OPINION, JUST BASED ON WHAT I SAW IN THE NEWS AND SUCH. SO, I THINK THEY WERE SMART IN DOING THAT. WE DIDN'T LIKE IT ON OUR END, WE DIDN'T LIKE SEEING THAT REDUCED FREQUENCY AT THE AIRPORT FOR DECEMBER, BUT, I THINK OVERALL IT WAS PROBABLY A GOOD MOVE BY

THEM. >> IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK ACCOUNTS FOR THE LOWER CAR RENTAL?

>> IT VERY WELL COULD, YEAH. IT VERY WELL COULD. WE DID SEE A DROP IN DECEMBER, THINKING BACK TO THE DECEMBER REPORT THAT WE GAVE YOU LAST MONTH IN ENPLANEMENTS, WE ATTRIBUTE THAT DROP IN THE DROP IN THE FREQUENCY THAT WE HAD. BECAUSE IT WAS ALMOST A PERCENTAGE OF SEATS DROPPED AND A PERCENTAGE OF LOWER-LEVEL PASSENGERS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR AIRFARES REPORT, BUT, GOING INTO THE REGULATORY AND LEGISLATIVE ISSUES UPDATE, SO, WE'RE WATCHING A FEW THINGS, THERE IS A SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WATCHING FOR AWHILE, WE BRIEFED THE BOARD ON IT MAY BE A YEAR AGO THAT WE ACTUALLY BRIEFED YOU GUYS ON THIS. IT WAS THE PFAS ISSUE. THE PFAS IS A CHEMICAL THAT'S IN THE FOAM THAT WE USE, THE FIRE-FIGHTING FOAM THAT WE USE, AIRCRAFT FIRE FIGHTING FOAM. BUT, ONE OF THE CHEMICAL COMPONENTS OF THAT IS POTENTIALLY CANCEROUS, SO, THE EPA HAS BEEN PUSHING THE FAA TO CHANGE THE TYPE OF CHEMICAL THAT WE USE FOR THIS. WE'VE HAD NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER. WE HAVE TO USE WHAT FAA APPROVES, AND THAT PFAS CONTAINING FOAM IS THE ONLY THING APPROVED FOR AIRCRAFT FIRE FIGHTING. HOWEVER, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS BEEN LEADING THE WAY IN RESEARCHING NEW TYPES OF FOAM, AND, LAST MONTH, THEY DID APPROVE A NEW FORMULA, AND SO, WE'RE WAITING ON WHEN THEY WILL BECOME COMME COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE FOR US TO PURCHASE. FAA STILL HAS TO SIGN OFF ON IT, BUT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WILL TAKE THAT LONG OF A PERIOD FOR THEM TO SIGN OFF ON IT. IT'S A FLUID SITUATION. IT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE THOUGHT, BECAUSE, WE HAD PROGRAMMED THIS FIZZICAL YEAR TO PURCHASE A NEW AIRCRAFT RESCUE FIRE-FIGHTING TRUCK TO REPLACE ONE PURCHASE IN 2002 OR 2003. SO, WAS NOT TOO KEEN ON PURCHASING A TRUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF TRANSITION IN MAJOR COMPONENT

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THROUGH. >> DON, ISN'T IT RIGHT THAT IF YOU WERE TO PUT THE PFAS IN THE NEW TRUCK, IT'S, IT'S DEEMED A HAZARD AND YOU CAN'T, IT'S CERTIFIED THEN T OR, CAN'T USE THE NEW STUFF BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY CONTAMINATED WITH THE OLD STUFF IN THE NEW TRUCK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

>> WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE CLEANING OF THE PLUMBING, BASICALLY, OF THAT NEW TRUCK IN ORDER TO GET IT TO WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE PUTTING ANY CONTAMINANTS BACK INTO, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE WATER. THE WATER CONTAMINATION, THE GROUND WATER CONTAMINATION. THE PFAS MATERIAL WILL MIGRATE DOWN AND HAS A VERY, VERY, LONG LIFE. AND SO, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE PUT OUT THERE HAS NOT BEEN CONTAMINATED BY A PREVIOUS CHEMICAL. SO, YOU PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO GO IN AND THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT GO IN AND CLEAN THAT STUFF, OR YOU JUST REPLACE ALL THE PLUMBING, ALL TOGETHER. SO, YES, IF WE WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW TRUCK TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW MATERIAL, WE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. WE WILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT WITH OUR EXISTING TRUCK THAT WE WILL KEEP.

>> GOT IT. >> ANY IDEA ON THE COST OF THE PRODUCT COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING?

>> I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. I SURE HAVEN'T.

>> WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO GET HIT WITH AN INCREASE.

>> I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE, AND IT'S HARD TO FIND A BENCHMARK NOW, BECAUSE, EVEN BUYING WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW, THE PRICE ARE JUST GOING UP ON EVERYTHING SO IT'S HARD TO SAY, HERE'S THE BENCHMARK AND THEY COME IN AT PRICES HIGHER OR

LOWER, WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET. >>

(INDISCERNIBLE) >> REPLACEMENT OF THE

(INDISCERNIBLE) (INAUDIBLE) >> SO, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO ACTUALLY REPLACING THE PLUMBING ON THE TRUCK THAT WE'LL KEEP WHICH IS A 2013 MODEL, I BELIEVE, IT IS, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT REPLACING THAT, BUT, WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT CLEANED AND WE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING COSTS ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

>> OKAY. >> SO, YOU DO A COMPARISON COST VERSUS CLEANING, VERSUS REPLACING THE VEHICLE.

>> I WOULD HOPE IT COULD BE CLEANED. I WOULD HATE TO LOSE THE TRUCK FOR AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT, THAT IS AN OPTION TO TAKE. SO, THERE'S ANOTHER REGULATORY ISSUE THAT WE'RE WATCHING, TSA ISSUED A REQUEST FOR COMMENTS FROM AIRPORTS REGARDING REQUIRING AIRPORTS TO STAFF DOORS THAT LEAD OUT TO THE SECURED AREAS OF THE AIRPORT AND REQUIRE AIRPORT STAFF TO BE THERE AND CHECK IDS, AND BELONGINGS OF THOSE EMPLOYEES GOING THROUGH THE DOORS. USING THEIR BADGE. AND THIS IS ALL WITH THE INSIDER THREAT. AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF PUSH BACK FROM AIRPORTS AND US AS WELL. THAT'S NOT OUR JOB. IT IS TSAS JOB TO SCREEN PEOPLE ENTERING INTO THE STERILE AND SECURE AREA. AND THEY'RE TRYING TO PUSH THAT RESPONSIBILITY ONTO US AS AIRPORTS AND IT'S JUST WRONG. SO, WE WILL BE PUSHING BACK ON THAT. AGAIN, THEY ARE

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>> AND THE CURRENT PROJECTS, SO, THE TERTERMINAL IMPROIMPROV PROJECT WE HAD OR PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING LAST FRIDAY, AND THEY'RE GETTING STARTED NEXT WEEK. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, THEY WILL START WITH PAINTING IN THE GATE AREA AND THEN ALSO KICKING OFF WITH THE LOWER-LEVEL REST ROOM DEMOLITION THAT STARTS RIGHT AWAY. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, I THINK WE'LL HAVE A REALLY GOOD PROJECT, LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH TINARD, WE HAVEN'T WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE. WE'LL SEE WHAT COMES OF THAT. I THINK IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE A FAIRLY FAST MOVING PROJECT. IT'S A 180-DAY PROJECT BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MOVING PARTS WITH IT. SO, IF WE COULD KEEP OUR SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES UNDER CONTROL, WHICH, I THINK TINARD HAS GOTTEN AHEAD OF THAT A BIT, BASED ON THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING LAST WEEK, IT WILL MOVE SMOOTHLY.

THE PROBLEMS WILL ALWAYS BE THERE, PARTICULARLY AS YOU WORK AROUND SPACES THAT THE PUBLIC WILL OCCUPY. ALL THE PAINTS WILL BE DONE AT NIGHT. AND, THAT IS NOT SO MUCH BECAUSE OF NOT BEING ABLE TO GET INTO SOME SPACES, BUT, IT REALLY IS ABOUT THE FUMES OF THE PAINT AND SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST REALLY SENSITIVE TO THAT. SO, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AS MANY OF THOSE TEAMS OUT OF THE BUILDING BEFORE WE HAVE PASSENGERS AND

EMPLOYEES BACK IN THE BUILDING. >> AIRCRAFT CHARGING STATION, STILL DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, I MEANT TO CHECK WITH THEM LAST WEEK AND DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO THAT. OUR CIP, AGAIN, NO CHANGES TO THAT, IT'S STILL ALL ABOUT THE TERMINAL EXPANSION COMING UP. THE FOUR-SERVICE RAMP PROJECT. SO, UM, WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME INFORMATION THAT THE CITY MANAGER SENT OUT ALONG WITH THE MAYOR'S SIGNATURE ON A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR OR IT'S ADDRESSED TO STAN LAMBERT, BUT, TO FORMALIZE THE REQUEST FOR THE FUNDING TO BUILD THAT RAMP. SO, WE THINK THE BALL IS ROLLING IN AUSTIN, NOW THAT THE LEGISLATOR IS GETTING UP TO SPEED. AND, I THINK, REALLY A WHOLE LOT DIDN'T HAPPEN LAST WEEK BECAUSE OF THE ICE STORM, THE COMMITTEE HEARING SHOULD HAVE STARTED LAST WEEK, BUT, THEY WERE DELAYED. SO, IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT. FUEL FARM RELOCATION, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A BIT IN ITEM NUMBER 7. AS THAT RELATES TO ABILENE WANTING TO TAKE THEIR UNDERGROUND FUEL FARM BUILD IT IN A NEW LOCATION AS AN ABOVE-GROUPED FUEL FARM.

WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU ON THAT. CAR RENTAL QUICK TURN FACILITY, WE'RE PROBABLY AT 60% ON THE DESIGN OF THAT AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF HOLDING RIGHT NOW. WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. WE WANT TO GET THE, UM, NEW CAR RENTAL AGREEMENTS IN PLACE, WE, WE SHOULD BE BRINGING TO YOU, I WOULD SAY BY MAY. THE NEW LEASES AND OPERATING AGREEMENTS WITH AVIS, AND ENTERPRISE, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO A BID FOR THE OTHER OPEN COUNTER THAT HERTZ USED TO OCCUPY AND SEE WHAT WE GET ON THAT. SO, I THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE THREE RENTAL CAR COMPANIES AGAIN, AT THAT POINT. OUTSTANDING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, I'VE LEFT THAT ON THERE, AND I'LL CONTINUE TO LEAVE THAT ON THERE, SINCE WE'VE HAD SO MANY PROBLEM WITH OUR MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, Y'ALL NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT THIS WAY, YOU CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS,

THOSE ESCALATORS? >> THAT WORKS TOO, NOW, AND THE FRONT DOOR, I JUST PASSED THROUGH THERE TODAY AND I WAS

LIKE, WHAT IS GOING ON. >> WELL, THE EAST REVOLVING DOOR HAS BEEN OUT OF SERVICE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. THE MANUFACTURER'S TECHNICIANS ARE WORKING ON IT. THEY GOT HER YESTERDAY TO WORK ON IT. WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON PARTS. THEY'RE

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HOPEFULLY, I CAN CHECK THAT OFF THE LIST BY THE END OF THIS WEEK. BUT, WE STILL HAVE THE INTERROR ESCALATORS ARE NOT WORKING. THE DOWN ESCALATOR WE REPLACED THE HANDLE ON THAT.

AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS THE PROBLEM, AND IT WAS GOOD TO GO, AND IT TURNED OFF ON IT'S OWN AFTER OPERATING FOR LESS THAN TWO DAYS. IT TURNS OUT, THERE'S ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND THAT IS ON ORDER, AND THEN THE UP ESCALATOR HAS A PROBLEM, THAT'S THROWING OUT A CODE AND IT'S STOPPING.

THE COMPANY THAT'S WORKING ON THOSE WILL BE HERE ON FRIDAY TO REPLACE THE CHAIN AS THE COMB COMPONENT IN THE DOWN CHAIN.

HOPEFULLY, THE UP ESCALATOR WILL GET TO BE WORKING AT THAT POINT AS WELL. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO GET RID OF ESCALATORS. AND, THAT IS, SOMETHING THAT THE, WE'LL TALK TALK ABOUT IT IN ITEM FIVE. BUT, I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE IS WORKING. THERE IS A BAG CONVEYER BEHIND THE TICKET COUNTERS THAT'S BEEN OUT FOR SOME TIME, WE GOT WORD THAT THE PART IS OUT AND THE TECHNICIANS HOPEFULLY WILL BE HERE WHENEVER THAT PART GETS IN, TO INSTALL THAT. WEATHER EVENTS, WELL, WE WANT TO LEAVE THAT IN HERE AT LEAST UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THE WEEKEND. LAST WEEK, WE WERE OPEN, THE ENTIRE TIME THAT AMERICAN WANTED TO FLY. SO, WE GOT THE TWO DEPARTURES OUT ON TUESDAY MORNING AND THEN, DFW SHUT DOWN, AND WE WERE FINE.

YOU REMEMBER, WE DIDN'T GET ANYMORE PRECIPITATION, REALLY, THE REST OF TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY, SO, WE WERE OPEN THE WHOLE TIME THAT DFW WAS SHUT DOWN. IT'S A SHAME, WE HAVE A

NICE RUNWAY HERE. >> AND YOU WORKED ON IT HARD TO

KEEP IT NICE. >> YEAH, SO, OUR CREW DID A GREAT JOB AND GOT TO CLEARED. QUICKLY, TUESDAY MORNING WE HAD TWO TIMES WHERE WE HAD TO SHUT IS DOWN. BEFORE THE FIRST DEPARTURE AND THEN BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND DEPARTURE. WE GOT THE RUNWAY BACK. WE PURCHASED A DE-ICING LIQUID TRAILER TO SPRAY THIS MATERIAL, WE PURCHASED IT AND THEN GOT IT IN OCTOBER. AND IT HAS A 50-FOOT BOONE THAT SPRAYS DOWN A HEAVY SPRAY PATTERN, THIS LIQUID DE-ICER, AND IT WAS WORTH IT'S WEIGHT IN GOLD. WE FIGURED IT WAS GOING TO BE A GAME-CHANGER FOR US, BUT, I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW MUCH OF A GAME-CHANGER IT WAS. BECAUSE, BEFORE WE WERE USING, JUST, KIND OF HOMEMADE AGRICULTURAL TANK WITH A SPRAYER ON THE BACK OF A TRACTOR, AND NOW WE HAVE THE SPRAY RIG AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET UP AND DOWN THE RUNWAY, THREE TIMES, 150-FEET WIDE RUNWAY WITH A 50-FOOT BOOM, DO THAT THREE TIMES AND THAT CHEMICAL WHEN PUT DOWN IN THAT QUANTITY, WORKED REALLY FAST AND WORKED REALLY

WELL. >> HOW LONG DOES IS LAST? IS

>> IT DEPENDS ON THE RATE OF THE SLEET OR SNOW THAT'S

FALLING. >> WE HAVE TO BE SURE NOT TO PUT IT ON WHEN IT'S RAINING, OR WHEN IT'S GOING TO RAIN SO THAT IT DOESN'T WASH OFF. AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE FROZE PRECIPITATION.

IT WILL STAY. WE CAN USE SAND IF WE NEEDED TO, BUT, IT'S NOT AS EASY OR AS CHEAP AS WHAT TXDOT OR THE CITY USES FOR OUR

STREETS AND HIGHWAYS. >> WHAT ABOUT ENVOY'S DE-ICE

CAPABILITY? >> THEY HAVE A TRUCK NOW WITH A BOOM ON IT ABLE TO GO AROUND THE AIRCRAFT AND IT'S A WHOLE LOT

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I DON'T KNOW OF ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT OVER THIS LAST WINTER EVENT. EVERYTHING SEEMED TO WORK AS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO. AND WHEN I SAY, TYPE 1 AND TYPE TWO. THE TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO, THEY'RE DIFFERENT TYPES, ONE'S A DE-ICER AND ONE IS AN ANTI-ICE.

SO, IF THE AIRCRAFT IS SITING THERE GATHERING ICE, YOU WANT TO SPRAY IT WITH THE DE-ICER AND THEN YOU MIGHT WANT TO SPRAY IT WITH THE ANTI-ICE SO THAT WAY IT HAS A CARRYOVER TO GET THEM TO AN ALTITUDE WHERE IT'S WARMER OR THERE ISN'T AS MUCH MOISTURE IN THE AIR. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT, BECAUSE, SOMETIMES ENVOY'S DEICING EQUIPMENT DOESN'T WORK. OKAY. AIR SERVICE AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT UPDATE.

>> YEAH, WE, THANKS. WE ARE MOVING ALONG ON OUR PRICING REPORT, IT CERTAINLY GAVE MOST OF US IN THE OFFICE A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM WHEN WE HAD SORT OF UNDERSTOOD AND SEEN AND HEARD IS HAPPENING AND THAT THE FARES ARE HIGH BUT COMPARABLE TO DFW 124 DAYS OUT. 30 DAYS OUT IS SLIGHTLY SKEWED AND IT BY FAR THE MOST EXPENSIVE DAYS TO TRAVEL TO TEXAS IN MARCH BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE BEGINNING DAYS OF SPRING BREAK FOR MOST OF TEXAS.

I IMAGINE IT'S SLIGHTLY INFLATED AS AMERICAN AIRLINES WILL DO THAT. HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE MORE FARES LIKE WE'RE SEEING IN THE FIRST TWO WOKS OUT. THAT'S A LITTLE MORE PALLETABLE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO GO TO NEW YORK, IN FACT, WE ALL WENT DIGGING TO SAY, HEY, WE COULD MAKE A TRIP OUT OF THIS. SO.

PALATABLE. ON THAT LOAD FACTOR THAT WE SAW IN OUR PREVIOUS MONTH AT A LOWER LEVEL, I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT THOSE HIGH FARES PROBABLY ALSO PLAYED A PART THERE. WE WERE REALLY SEEING SOME PRETTY BIG ONES. AND SO, WE KNOW HOW THAT GOES WITH PEOPLE'S ECONOMICS. SO, WE ARE DOING SORT OF OUR USUAL, MARKETING AND UM, COMMUNICATIONS OUT THERE. AND THEN, WITH THE RENOVATIONS, COMES ANOTHER PROJECT OF MINE WHICH SORT OF COINCIDES WITH ALL THINGS MARKETING IN TERMINAL ADVERTISING, THE LIGHT BOXES, THEY'RE ALL COMING OFF THE WALLS BECAUSE WE NEED TO PAINT AND WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THEM. AND SO, WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE, I SAY THAT, SO, AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE MANY OF THE ADVERTISERS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, AND PRORATE AND GET BILLING BACK UP TO SNUFF WHEN WE'RE BACK UP AND RUNNING. AND WE HOPE THAT THAT BRINGS DIGITAL OPPORTUNITIES, JUST, MORE, MARKETING OPPORTUNITIES, WE USE OUR TERMINAL ADVERTISE, OBVIOUSLY, AS A LITTLE PIECE OF REVENUE, BUT, IT'S ALSO A REALLY GREAT MARKETING PARTNER FOR OUR VIP REWARDS PROGRAM. SO, LIKE I SAID, IT TIES INTO MANY OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR MARKETING. AND SO, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO. AS HE SPOKE OF OUR SCHEDULE, WE ARE STICKING WITH THIS THREE LEAVING AND THREE COMING IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE WAY THROUGH MARCH. PRETTY SIMILAR IN THE TIMES THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING THAT HASN'T ADJUSTED. HAVE THEY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ADDING FLIGHTS BACK? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S A NUMBER'S GAME. BUT, I WAS JUST SAY, STICKING IN DFW FOR SIX HOURS FOR YOUR NEXT FLIGHT IS PROBABLY NOT THE MOST HEALTHY THING TO DO.

>> IT'S NOT, AND WE REQUESTED A MEETING WITH THE NETWORK PLANNING FOLKS AND THEY SAID THEY'RE NOT AT THE POINT TO MEET RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE DEALING WITH MULTIPLE ISSUES. WE UNDERSTAND THAT, IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR US, OF COURSE. WE UNDERSTAND IT, BECAUSE, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT SWITCH OVER WHERE MESA

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RENTAL CARS. WHEN YOU SEE A >> ARE ALL OF THE CAR RENTAL COMPANIES, DID THEY DO ONE-WAY RENTALS, BECAUSE, HERTZ, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT HERTZ WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DID THAT.

>> AND OUR COMPANIES NOW DO NOT DO ONE-WAYS. I WAS ASKING ABOUT

THAT JUST LAST WEEK. >> I WONDER IF THERE MIGHT BE SOME SORT OF GRACE PERIOD THAT THEY WOULD GIVE ON THE CAR RENTAL SIDE IF THEY SAW THAT GOING UP WITH THE FLIGHTS MAINTAINING AT THREE A DAY. I MEAN, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF TALKING POINT THAT IS WE WOULD HAVE WITH THEM ON THAT BECAUSE, I COULD SEE SOMEBODY GOING, I JUST GOT HERE AND I'VE GOT TO WAIT 6 HOURS, I'M NOT WAITING, I'LL JUST GO HOME. BECAUSE, THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS GO GET A HOTEL ROOM AND

YOU'RE STILL IN DFW. >> WELL, IT'S A TOUGH SITUATION, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES IN IT. THE REAL ANSWER IS BRING BACK AT LEAST ONE MORE DEPARTURE A DAY. BUT, AMERICAN IS NOT WILLING TO TALK WITH US RIGHT NOW ON IT. IT'S A HARD SITUATION AND WE THINK IT'S IMPACTING OUR PASSENGERS.

>> I'VE SEEN MORE PEOPLE DRIVE TO DALLAS.

>> I'VE SEEN MORE PEOPLE DRIVE TO GO DALLAS. I KNOW I AM. THE ENVOY STAFF AT THE COUNTER IS TOO.

>> IT BECOME AS SELF FULFILLING PROPHECY. WE'RE AT THREE DEPARTURES A DAY, WELL, YOU PUT US IN THAT SITUATION.

>> IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT YOU SEE ON THE OUTBOUND FRIGHTS GOING OUT, EVERYBODY'S RUNNING TO GET THAT FIRST FLIGHT. AND TRUST ME, IF YOU DON'T HAVE STATUS ON SOME OF THOSE, YOU COULD BE ON STAND-BY, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'LL BE WAITING ANOTHER FOUR HOURS FOR THE NEXT FLIGHT JUST LEAVING OUT OF ABILENE AND THAT WILL PUT YOUR WHOLE SCHEDULE BEHIND A WHOLE DAY. BECAUSE, NOW, YOUR TWELVE-14 HOURS ON A TRAVEL DAY.

AND THE MAJORITY OF THAT TIME IS JUST WAITING. I KNOW WHAT KIRK'S SAYING, I HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, I'LL JUST DRIVE TO DALLAS. IF AMERICAN WOULD COME TO THE TABLE A LITTLE BIT.

>> I NEVER USED TO DO THAT, AND NOW, I HAVE TO. JUST TO MAKE IT

WORK. >> IT'S JUST THE TIMING.

>> ABSOLUTELY, YOU CAN'T GIVE UP A DAY LIKE THAT.

>> THE ONLY, THE SPLIT ON THAT IS, YOU LEAVE A DAY EARLY. YOU LEAVE ON A SUNDAY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, AFTER CHURCH OR WHATEVER, AND, YOU GO, YEAH, I'VE GOT TO LEAVE ON SUNDAY, NOW, ON THE LATE FLIGHT OUT JUST TO EITHER GET TO DALLAS OR TO GET

SOMEPLACE BY MIDNIGHT. >> YES.

>> BUT, IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION. I MEAN, AND I THINK THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF THAT 56%. IT'S SELF-INFLICTING. SO, I WONDER IF THERE'LL BE, WELL, THEY WILL LET US KNOW WHEN THEY

WANT TO TALK, I GUESS. >> AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK AGAIN IN THE NEXT 45-60 DAYS, WE WILL, BUT, THAT'S WORKING THROUGH OUR AIR SERVICE CONSULTANT WHO IS SEEING A LOT OF THIS.

>> AND THE ONE THICK THAT YOU MAY DO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT FLY AMERICAN EXCLUSIVELY, I DO. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO, FROM THAT LEVEL OF MAY BE WRITING A LETTER, MAY BE, COMING UP WITH A CAN LETTER THAT WE COULD ALL JUST PUT IN YOUR

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>> IS PART OF THEIR RESPONSE LIKE, HEY, YOU HAVE THESE BIGGER PLANES SO YOUR CAPACITIES ARE MAY BE THE SAME BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE SEATING BUT LESS NUMBER OF PLANES, I MEAN, IS THAT THEIR

POSITION, SORT OF? >> YEAH. AND THAT WAS WHAT WE SAW IN DECEMBER, TO SOME EXTENT, THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

REMEMBER, WE ALWAYS SAID, AS SOON AS WE GET THE LARGER AIRCRAFT, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE A DROP IN FREQUENCY, WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THIS KIND OF A DROP. BECAUSE WHERE WE ARE NOW AND GOING INTO MARCH, THREE DEPARTURES A DAY SEPTEMBER FOR SATURDAY AND WEDNESDAY, WE'RE AT TWO DEPARTURES A DAY. WE DID NOT EXPECT THAT. A LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGN, WE COULD DO THAT, PROBABLY THROUGH THE VIP PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE IN THAT, AND IF WE COULD GET A COUPLE OF HUNDRED OUT OF THAT TO WRITE LETTERS. HERE'S THE DEAL, THOUGH, YOU, LIKE, 95% OF PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY FLIES AMERICAN EXCLUSIVELY, SO, AMERICAN'S SAYING, IF YOU'RE GOING TO FLY TO DFW, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ON AN AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT TO GET ON DFW.

>> IF YOU SAID, I'M GOING TO GET ON DELTA OR UNITED, THAT MAY

BE A DIFFERENT TAKE FOR THEM. >> YEAH, BUT, THEY'RE STILL LOSING THAT SEAT GOING. AND THAT'S A REVENUE STREAM THAT THEY'RE OFFERING AND THAT REVENUE STREAM HAS GOT TO BE MADE UP BY SOMETHING, EITHER, NOBODY, OR, A FEW MORE PEOPLE IF IT, IF THEY WOULD ADD THAT EXTRA FLIGHT AND WE'RE JUST TALKING ONE EXTRA FLIGHT WOULD BE A GAME-CHANGER, ON FREQUENT FLIERS, WITH WE. AND THE MOST DIFFICULT PART IS WHENEVER YOU CAN'T CONTROL THE SITUATION WHENEVER YOU ARE LEAVING AND YOU GET IN HERE AND YOU MISS THAT FLIGHT AND THEN YOU'RE ON THE 6-HOUR, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THE ADMIRAL CLUB HOP. YOU GO FROM ONE TO THE OTHER AND SEE ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS, OKAY, BUT, THAT'S A LONG, THAT MAKES FOR A LONG DAY. AND IT'S MOSTLY ON THE INCOMING FLIGHTS THAT YOU SEE THAT ON. AND, UM, IT'S, I'VE BEEN THERE, I WAS THERE RECENTLY. I DID NOT LIKE IT.

>> SEE, JAMES, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A REVENUE STREAM IT REALLY IS BECAUSE AMERICAN, THEY LEASE IT OUT TO ENVOY. SO, IT'S INCREMENTLE DOLLARS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THEM TO BUDGE TOO

MUCH. >> AS FAR AS THE LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGN, IF WE BOOK ENDING THAT, I THINK A LETTER MAY BE BETTER THAN NO LETTER AT ALL. YOU KNOW, AT LEAST, YOU'VE GOT THE VIPS, WHO TRAVEL WHO ARE EXECUTIVE PLATS, OR PLATINUMS OR WHATEVER, THEY'RE THE ONES SITTING DOWN AND WRITING A LETTER, I MEAN, I DO GET A RESPONSE.

>> CHAIR BRIDWELL: I THINK THAT'S A WORTH WHILE EFFORT, IT AT LEAST SHOWS THE INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. >> ALL RIGHT. AIR SERVICE

ISSUES, ANY OTHERS? >> THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

>> FINDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT AND REVISE

ROADWAY. >> OKAY. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT Y'ALL PROBABLY EVERY MEETING RECENTLY ABOUT APPLYING FOR A GRANT THROUGH THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION CALLED A RAISE GRANT TO FUND THE ROAD THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF AREA B IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT AREA. TRY TO GET THAT TO COVER MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE COST FOR THAT ROAD. WE HAD ASKED OUR ENGINEERING FIRM TO HELP WITH THAT APPLICATION AND THEY HAVE CONNECTIONS, WELL, THEY HAVE A CONSULTANT WHO ARE

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AND I WOULD SAY, FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, IT'S WORTH A SHOT, HOWEVER, THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS GOING TO BE REQUIRING A FULL BUSINESS COST ANALYSIS. A VCA TO GO WITH IT, THAT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER 30-$35,000 TO DO THAT. AND THEY CAN DO THAT. BUT, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE WORTH WHILE, WE HAVE A VERY LOW PERCENTAGE CHANCE OF BEING SUCCESSFUL. SO, I WAS IN DC MONDAY AND MAKING THE ROUNDS ON CAPITAL HILL TALKING TO CONGRESSMAN EARINGTON'S STAFFER, WHO HANDLES TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. AND WE MET WITH CONGRESSMAN ROGER WILLIAM'S STAFF AND IT WAS OUR FIRST TIME TO MEET WITH HIS STAFF AND ALSO SENATORS CRUZ STAFF AND TALKED THIS ISSUE WITH ALL OF THEM. AND, THEY AGREED, YEAH, THIS PROBABLY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A GOOD SHOT AND WHAT HAS CHANGEED IS, THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO SEE CHURN CERTAIN THINGS ACHIEVED WITH THE RAISED GRANTS THIS YEAR THAT FOLLOW THEIR AGENDA AND IT'S CERTAINLY THEIR PREROGATIVE TO A DO THAT. WE CAN CHECK ALMOST ALL THE BOXES FOR THE NEED OF THE PROJECT THROUGH THE RAISE GRANT APPLICATION AND DEMONSTRATE THERE IS A NEED AND THERE IS A BENEFIT TO THIS COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT DOT AND THE ADMINISTRATION WILL BE WEIGHING MORE SO THAN PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CHECK THEM.

OR, WE CAN CHECK IT BUT IT'S A LIGHT CHECK. SO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VERY WEIGHTY APPLICATION TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS THIS YEAR. SO, WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AND AGAIN, THE FOLKS IN DC THAT I TALKED WITH PRETTY MUCH AGREED WITH THAT ASSESSMENT. SO, WE PUT THE BUG IN THEIR EAR, HELPED US FIND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FOR THIS, AND, THEY HAVE AGREED TO DO THAT, WORKING WITH JAMES CHRISTOPHRESON, AND HE'S OUR LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WORKING HIM. MY FIRST TIME DOING THE ROUNDS WITH HIM. HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB AND HE KNOW AS TON OF PEOPLE OUT THERE. SO, HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK THOSE ISSUES FOR US FOLLOWING UP. AN HE ALREADY STARTED THE FOLLOWUP THIS MORNING. SO, OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS I'LL PROBABLY GO UP THERE IN MARCH TO FOLLOWUP AGAIN WITH STAFF AND FEEING OUT WHAT, HOPEFULLY, GET SOME OTHER IDEAS IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. THE RAISE GRANT, NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY EXPIRED, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN APPLICATION IN BY FEBRUARY 28TH, SO, WE WILL FOREGO IT THIS TIME. BUT, I THINK, IF WE COULD FIND ANOTHER SOURCE, AND, UM, LEVERAGE THE POWER OF THE TEXAS DELEGATION, AND THE TEXAS 19TH, AND 25TH DISTRICT DELEGATION, SEE WHAT WE

COULD COME UP WITH. >> THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH, UM, YOU I DON'T KNOW TO SAY THIS, FEDERAL DOLLARS. THERE'S, IS THERE EVER ANY STATE DOLLARS AVAILABLE FOR THIS KIND OF

PROJECT? >> YEAH, WE DID MEET WITH STATE FOLKS TOO, AND THEY'RE LOOKING INTO IT AS WELL. SO, WE SAID, HEY, THE COUNTY'S PROBABLY GOT MONEY FROM ARPA.

>> YEAH, $1.95? >> CHIP SEAL. CHIP SEAL YOUR

ROAD. >> BUT, YES, WE'RE LOOKING INTO

THE STATE OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. >> OKAY.

[4. Committee Reports and Appoint Chairs]

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>> >> OKAY. COMMITTEE REPORTS, FACILITIES AND PLANNING DIDN'T MEET AND MARKETING DEVELOPING

SUBCOMMITTEE DIDN'T MEET EITHER. >> THEY DIDN'T MEET, WE WERE

ICED IN. >> OKAY. DISCUSSION ACTION --

>> HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO, BECAUSE I'VE GOT THIS AND APPOINT CHAIRS. BECAUSE, RIGHT NOW, OUR COMMITTEES DON'T HAVE CHAIRS. IS ANYONE INTERESTED IN BEING THE CHAIR OF THE FACILITIES AND PLANS COMMITTEE AND THE MARKETING AAND

DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE. >> OKAY. AWESOME. GREAT.

THIS DOESN'T REQUIRE A VOTE, BUT, I FIGURED IF WE HAVE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, WE MINE AS WELL.

>> CINDY FOR MARKETING? >> MARKETING.

>> FACILITY AND PLANNING? IT MEETS QUARTERLY. I CAN BARELY

MAKE IT TO THIS. >> JANUARY MARCH.

>> I'LL DO IT IF NOBODY ELSE WILL.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> PERFECT. OKAY, NOW, ONTO DISCUSSION ACTION TO APPROVE

[5. Discussion and Action to Approve a Recommendation to City Council for a Terminal Expansion Design Task Order with Corgan.]

TASK ORDER WITH CORGAN. >> SO, WE DO HAVE A MASTER CONTRACT WITH CORGAN FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES, MOSTLY IN THE TERMINAL. SO, THIS PROJECT IS THE WOULD BE THE AIRPORT MODERNIZATION PHASE TWO, TERMINAL EXPANSION. AND AGAIN, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT BEFORE, BUT, THAT'S TO BUILD OUT THE GATE AREA. THE MAJOR PARTS OF IT. EXPAND THE GATE AREA SO THAT WE COULD SEAT 600 PEOPLE IN THERE. GETTING PASSED THE 3 DEPARTURES A DAY, ONE DAY, SUNNY SKIES WILL BE COMING.

>> I WOULD HATE TO BE HERE WHEN THERE'S 599 PEOPLE IN THAT PLACE, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE.

>> WE HAVE DONE 600 PEOPLE IN THE TERMINAL BEFORE, FOR A

CONVERSION. >> 60.

>> WE HAVE SEATING FOR 60. 10%.

>> IN THE GATE AREA. >> YEP.

>> 60 TO 600. >> WOW. WE NEED THE SPACE FOR

200. >> OH, 200.

>> THAT'S MORE PALATABLE THAN 600.

>> NOW, THE 600 WEREN'T ALL IN THE GATE AREA, WE OPENED THE

WHOLE TERMINAL UP. >> THAT WAS THE WHOLE TERMINAL.

>> YES. >> NO. NO, NO, I THINK WE WOULD NOT DO THAT TO ALL OF THOSE PASSENGERS.

>> THAT'S A LOT OF EXPANSION, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET OUT TO THE RUNWAY PART TWO TO EXPAND THAT.

>> HANG THEM FROM THE CEILINGS. >> THAT'S TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE 2175S, OR A 175, AND, UM, A CHARTER OF A 737800, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT HAPPEN AND SOMETIMES THEY COINCIDE. SOMETIMES WE GET PASSENGERS MIXED. SO, WE FIGURE, 200 IS A GOOD NUMBER. SO, JUST, SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS OF WHAT THIS DESIGN, AND THIS IS DESIGN ONLY.

SO, HIGH POINTS OF WHAT THIS DESIGN WOULD DO IS IN ADDITION TO ADDING SPACE FOR THE GATE AREA, BUT, ALSO FOR THE SCREEN CHECKPOINT. YOU MAY RECALL AND HOW I WISH THAT WE WERE STILL ABLE TO MEET OUT AT THE AIRPORT SO THAT I COULD SHOW YOU THIS.

BUT, THE SCREEN CHECKPOINT IS A VERY SMALL AREA AND EVEN WITH THE PASSENGER LOADS THAT WE HAVE NOW, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE MORE SPACE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SPACE TO EVENTUALLY BE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT CHECKPOINT TO TWO-LANE. OUR MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BACK TWO YEARS AGO HAD THAT IN THE PLAN TO EXPAND THAT AND BASICALLY PUT IT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE TERMINAL, THAT YOU COULD CALL IT A SKY BRIDGE, WHATEVER, WHERE THE BRIDGE IS NOW ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT AND FLIP IT 90-DEGREES. IT GIVES US

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BUT, IT DOESN'T POWER EVERYTHING, IT POWERS MOST OF THE LIGHTS, AND I THINK, ONE BRIDGE. IT DOES NOT POWER OUR HVAC SYSTEM, SO, TWO WINTERS AGO WHEN WE LOST POWER, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO HEAT THE TERMINAL. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE THE TERMINAL HEATED DURING THAT TIME AND ANY OTHER TIME THAT WE HAVE A POWER OUTAGE. BUT, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ENTIRE TERMINAL WITH THE GENERATOR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A FIRE SPRINKLE SYSTEM, THIS EXPANSION WILL TRIGGER THAT IN THE BUILDING CODES SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

>> DOES THE CITY ALREADY OBLIGATE ALL OF IT'S ARPA FUNDS? THIS SOUNDS TO ME LIKE SOMETHING THAT --

>> I BELIEVE IT HAS. >> -- COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY

FALLEN IN THAT. >> I BELIEVE THAT IT HAS.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE)

>> WORKING WITH THE FAA PROGRAM MANAGER WE CAME UP WITH A BUDGET OF $24 MILLION BACK IN OCTOBER. AFTER GOING THROUGH WHAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE VERY SIMPLE PROJECT OF THE PAINTING AND THE REST ROOM RENOVATIONS AND THAT COME IN AT $2.7 MILLION WHEN WE WERE REALLY EXPECTING LIKE, 1.2 AT THE MOST. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO REVISIT THAT. AND COME UP WITH A HIGHER BUDGET. SO, PROBABLY, $30 MILLION OR $34 MILLION.

>> AND THE DESIGN FEE? >> SO, THE DESIGN FEE IS AND THAT IS WHAT IS BEING CONSIDERED TODAY, 1 MILLION, $508,254.

THAT'S NOT TO BE EXCEEDED FEE, BECAUSE THIS IS FAA-FUNDED WE HAVE TO HAVE IT INDEPENDENTLY REVIEWED BY ANOTHER FIRM TO ENSURE THAT IS A MARKET FEE. BUT, I WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOU, BECAUSE, THIS $1,508,254 IS OUR WORST CASE SCENARIO. IT'S AN INDEPENDENT FEE ESTIMATE. IF THE IFE SAYS, OH, WE ESTIMATED AT $1.7 MILLION, WE'RE GOING TO STAY AT $1,508,254. I HOPE THAT HAVE THAT IPE BACK. BUT, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS ON THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA TO GET THIS STARTED. THE REASON IS WE WANT THIS VERY FAR ALONG IN THE DESIGN PROCESS WHEN THE NEXT AIRPORT TERMINAL PROGRAM GRANT OPPORTUNITY COMES OPEN IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SAY THE PROJECT IS DESIGNED AND READY TO BID WHEN WE APPLY FOR THAT GRANT. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SAY THAT, BUT, WE COULD SAY IT'S 80% DESIGNED AND SHOULD BE READY TO BID BY THE TIME GRANT AWARDS ARE MADE NEXT FALL.

SO, THAT REALLY, IF YOU COULD TELL FAA THAT IN THE APPLICATION, YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD SHOT AT GETTING THE FUNDING. AND, WE'VE ALREADY, THIS IS ALREADY KIND OF BEEN VETTED THROUGH THE FAA, AIRPORT'S DISTRICT OFFICE.

WITH, THUMB'S UP. BUT, NO GUARANTY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE GRANT BUT THAT THE STAFF SUPPORTS IT. SO, WE WANT TO GET THIS UNDER DESIGN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO, THAT IS THE ASK

FOR TODAY. >> WHAT IS THE SECONDARY FIRM FEE? DO THEY HAVE A FEE TO REVIEW IT?

>> IT'S $3,000 TO $5,000. WE'RE USING A FIRM THAT HAVE DONE THIS FOR US BEFORE AND THEY'RE DOING OTHER FINANCIAL CONSULTING AS WELL AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A TASK ORDER COME TO THE BOARD PROBABLY IN MARCH WITH SOME ADDITIONAL WORK.

>> THAT CONTRACT JUST GETS US THROUGH DESIGN?

>> IT'S DESIGN AND BIDDING SERVICES.

>> AND BIDDING? >> BUT NO CONSTRUCTION FEE

SERVICES? >> NO.

>> THEY ORIGINALLY HAD CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES IN THE SCOPE AND FEE, YOU PULLED IT OUT SO THEY REDUCED THAT FEE.

SO, IF IT'S A $30 MILLION PROJECT, 1.5 IS 5%, IS THAT

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>> SO, 10% IS THE MAX THAT FAA SAYS, THEY LET GO WITHOUT ANY SCRUTINY. ANYTHING OVER 10, BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAW THIS I HAD STICKER SHOCK. BECAUSE, WE'VE NEVER DONE A DESIGN FEE THAT HIGH BEFORE, BUT, THERE'S A LOT TO IT.

>> OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A $1.508254 NOT TO EXCEED FER DESIGN TASK ORDER WITH CORGAN.

>> I MOVE THE MOTION. >> NANCY?

>> I'LL SECOND THAT? >> ALL IN FAVOR?

>> (CHORUS OF AYES)

[6. Discussion and Action to Approve a Recommendation to City Council for Resident Project Representative contract with Jacob Martin.]

>> HOW AM I DOING? >> GOOD. OKAY. GO.

>> OKAY. DISCUSSION, ACTION TO APPROVE AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A RESIDENT PROJECT REPRESENTATIVE CONTRACT

WITH JACOBS AND MARTIN. >> SO, THIS IS FOR THE CURRENT PROJECT THAT'S ABOUT TO GET STARTED. THIS IS FOR THE RPR SERVICES OR INSPECTION SERVICES TO HAVE AN INSPECTOR OUT THERE DURING CRITICAL INSTRUCTION PHASES.

>> IT'S A 180-DAY PROJECT? >> $1 AN HOUR, THAT INCLUDES

TRAVEL, VEHICLE, AND MILEAGE. >> OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE,

JACOBS AND MARTIN, RPR SERVICES. >> CINDY?

>> SECOND. >> RANDY.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? >>

(CHORUS OF AYES) >> MOTION APPROVED. THANK YOU.

[7. Discussion and Action to Approve a Recommendation to City Council to amend the ground lease with Abilene Aero]

>> OKAY. APPROVE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND GROUND LEASE WITH AILENE AERO, IS THAT THE FUEL

TANK? >> YES.

>> SO, SINCE I WAS OUT OF TOWN, I DID NOT GET THIS MADE UP FOR EVERYBODY FOR DIGITAL PRESENTATION, WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE THINGS A WHOLE LOT EASIER. SO, WHAT ABILENE AERO WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SWAP THE LAND OUT, SO, THEY WOULD ABANDON THE EXISTING FUEL FARM AREA IN THE LEASE AND WE WOULD AMEND THE LEASE TO ABANDON THAT AREA AND ADD IN THE NEW WHY ARE FOR THE NEW FUEL TANKS. THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING UP THE UM EXISTING AREA, TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NO RESIDUAL CHEMICALS IN THE GROUND, FUEL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN, UMMIOUS RENT OUT, THEY WOULD RENT THE NEW AREA TO BUILD ON.

>> SO, MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE? >> IT IS A LARGER AREA, YES.

THE SELF-FUEL FACILITY THAT BUILT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO,

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AND THAT'S AT THE CURRENT LEASE RATE WHICH THAT DOES ADJUST WITH

CPI. >> MOTION FOR A GROUND LEASE

ADJUSTMENT. >> SECOND.

>> I'LL SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR?

>> (CHORUS OF AYES)

>> MOTION PASSES. >> CHAIR BRIDWELL: OKAY.

[8. Discussion and Action to Approve a Recommendation to City Council for an Airport Use Agreement with Turo.]

>> CHAIR BRIDWELL: 8: DON SAYS IT'S BEEN PULLED.

>> YEAH, I WANT TO WAIT ON THAT, TURO IS A PEER TO PEER CAR RENTAL COMPANY, IT'S LIKE AIRBNB FOR CARS, AND WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN WITH THE TEXAS COMMERCIAL AIRPORT'S ASSOCIATION, I'M ON THEIR BOARD AND WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM LARGER AIRPORTS THIS IS THE MENACE TO THEM, BECAUSE, TURO IS ABLE TO OPERATE OUT OF THEIR PARKING LOTS, AND NOT, HAVE ANY KIND OF STRUCTURE FROM THE AIRPORT AND DOESN'T, THE AIRPORT DOESN'T MAKE ANY MONEY OFF OF IT, THEY'RE SIPHONING MONEY FROM THE CAR RENTAL COMPANIES, PAYING TO BE IN THE AIRPORT. SO, WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THAT AND HAVEN'T SEEN THEM ON THE AIRPORT, I'VE HAD THE APP FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW, WATCHING TO SEE IF IT SHOWS UP AT THE AIRPORT. BUT, WE'RE APPROACHED BY A TURO HOST AND WE MET WITH HIM AND HE'S WANTING TO OPERATE OUT OF THE AIRPORT. SO, I APPRECIATED HIM COMING AND TALKING WITH US BECAUSE THIS COMPANY HAS A REPUTATION OF NOT DOING THAT AT OTHER AIRPORTS. SO, WE WANTED TO DEVELOP THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. AND, UM, I THINK WE WILL HAVE, I'VE TALKED WITH THE TURO PEOPLE ACTUALLY, IN MY LAST CONVERSATION WITH THEM WAS LAST WEDNESDAY ON THE PHONE, SO, WE HAVE KIND OF AN AGREEMENT. WE KNOW THE TERMS, BUT, I'M GOING TO A TCAA MEETING NEXT WEEK, I NOTICED THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA AFTER I HAD ALREADY MADE UP THIS AGENDA. SO, I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE TAKE IT FOR THE

>> DID THAT BEGIN WITH THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF.

[INDISCERNIBLE]? TO MAKE THIS STARTED JUST BEFORE COVID.

>> I THINK THE QUESTION WAS DUE TO COVID.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> AND IT WOULD GAIN TRACTION FOR SURE.

>> I HAVE HAD GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS I HAVE TALKED TO THEIR THEY KNOW THEY HAVE MADE A BAD IMPRESSION AND I AM HAPPY TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE I ADVISE THEM TO. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO UBER OR LIFT?

>> YOU ARE RENTING THIS CAR. YOU ARE DRIVING IT BUT SOMEBODY HAS A. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> IT'S NOT BEING USED SO >>.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> INTERESTING.

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>> IT'S BECAUSE OF THE LIABILITY ISSUES WITH DAMAGES TO THE VEHICLES WHEN THEY COME BACK IN THEIR DAMAGED BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIVATELY OWNED AND THEY ARE BASICALLY IF I CAME TO THE AIRPORT LAST WEEK OR 10 DAYS AGO I DROPPED MY VEHICLE OFF THEY WOULD GO UP PICK IT UP OR IT WOULD BE THERE FOR SOMEONE TO RANCH WHILE I WAS GONE AND THEY WOULD PAY A FEE FOR THAT BUT THE DAMAGES THAT ARE COMING BACK ARE SMOKED IN TRASH STUFF LIKE THAT AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE HEARD AND THAT WAS THE BIG ROBE ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

>> DID THEY COLLECT ALL TAXES?

>> THEY SAID THEY DID. THEY SAID THEY DID.

>> THEY SAID THEY DID. SO ONE THING THAT THEY PUSH BACK ON WE CHARGE A CUSTOMER FACILITY CHARGE ? DOLLARS PER DAY FOR EVERY CAR THAT IS RENTED AND WE ARE NOT USING ANY OF YOUR FACILITIES AND IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THEY WILL BE OPERATING OUT OF OUR PARKING LOT SO IF A CORE ? CAR OWNER PARKS A CAR AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS IN THE PARKING LOT PRIOR TO THE PERSON ARRIVING THE PERSON WHO HAS RENTED THAT CAR WILL PAY THE PARKING LOT FEE AS THEY GO OUT.

SOMETHING RENTAL CAR CUSTOMERS DON'T HAVE TO DO.

THEY WILL BE UNDER THE AGREEMENT WILL PROBABLY ALLOW THEM TO DO A TRANSACTION WHERE WE DO THAT ON THE CURBSIDE SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A PARKING LOT FEE OR IF THEY PARK IN LESS THAN 30 MINUTES BEFORE THAT PASSENGER ARRIVES IT WOULD NOT BE A PARKING LOT FEE BUT I AM NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CFC THAT MUCH BUT I DID BRING IT UP WITH THEM.

THAT IS SOMETHING I PLAN ON HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH THE TCA MEETING TO SEE IF THERE INCLUDING THAT IN THEIR AGREEMENT. BUT WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU IN MARCH.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

>> OKAY. READY FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551 ? 072 551071 551087 551076.

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