4. Resolution: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Take Action on Approving the Abilene Cultural Affairs Council FY 2024 Budget (Mike Rains)

[4. Resolution: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Take Action on Approving the Abilene Cultural Affairs Council FY 2024 Budget (Mike Rains)]

>> YES, MAYOR HANNA. >> YES. >> I PULL THIS AS AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITIZEN WHO WANTED TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS COUNCIL BUDGET THAT GETS

APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. >> DO YOU NEED A PRESENTATION? >> WE HAVE LYNNE BARNETT FROM

CULTURAL AFFAIRS COUNCIL TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> ASK THEN ANSWER.

>> PRESENTATION? >> DO YOU WANT ONE? >> SORRY LYNN, YOU ARE UP.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL AND CITY. CITY MANAGER FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND TALK FEW MINUTES ABOUT ABI ABILENE AFFAIRS COUNCIL BUDGET. I WILL NOTE A FEW THINGS THAT MAYBE THERE ARE MORE, THE BOOK THE MONEY IS IN THOSE CATEGORIES.

IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS YOU CAN ASK ME, TAMI. I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE ENHANCEMENTS TO THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. ENHANCEMENTS STARTED IN 2017, OUR STATE ARTS AGENCY, TEXAS COMMISSION ON THE ARTS HAD FUNDING TO ALLOCATE TO CULTURAL DISTRICTS. THAT WAS A WONDERFUL IMPACTFUL MOMENT FOR US, WE WERE ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY APPLY FOR MONEY. STARTING, YOU'LL SEE WE THE DIFFERENT GRANT REVENUE CULTURAL ENHANCEMENT 2021. 2022 ON DOWN. FIRST YEAR WE WERE FORTUNATE TO GET $90,000. THAT HELPED US RAISE MONEY FOR HISTORIC GARDEN.

ALL OF THESE HAVE TO BE MATCHED. THEY ARE ALL MATCHED MORE THAN 1-1.

EXPENSES ARE MORE THAN YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE HALF OF THAT. NEXT YEAR, WE PUT LIGHTING IN ARBORS OF THE TREES. IN 202, IN-CLOUD LIGHT SCULPTURE AT THE CIVIC CENTER AND TUNNEL LIGHTING AND SECURITY CAMERAS. NEXT YEAR, THE PROJECT WAS "BE OUR GUEST." THESE WERE THE FOUR PILLARS AS WELL AS RELIEF BY -- LIGHTING THOSE CONTEMPORARY SCULPTURES.

THAT WILL BE COLORFUL LIGHTING. WE WANTED THAT TO PROVIDE A BEAUTIFUL ENTRY WAY INTO OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT. THIS NEXT YEAR WE JUST GOT APPROVED $54,000.

WE ARE GOING TO CREATE A GAME APP, LEADS VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ONE SCULPTURE TO ANOTHER. GOAL OF ENCOURAGING READING AND YOU KNOW, FAMILIES BEING TOGETHER. THOSE GRANTS HAVE BEEN HUGELY IMPACTFUL.

THAT IS THE BULK OF OUR FUNDING. THING THAT IS STAND OUT OTHER THAN CHILDREN'S ART AND LITERACY

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FESTIVAL. I THINK Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT FESTIVAL.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS BARNETT BEFORE I OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MISS BARNETT CAN YOU GO INTO THE SOURCE FOR FUNDING? >> YES, FUNDED ABOUT HALF OF OUR BUDGET FROM HOTEL-MOTEL TAX. OTHER HALF WE RAISE THROUGH SUBSCRIPTION SALES, GENEROUS

DONATIONS AND ALL THAT. >> THANK YOU, LYNN. ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK?

>> TAMI FOGLE, CITIZEN OF ABILENE. I FEEL LIKE IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT BUDGETS. ONLY QUESTION SHE DIDN'T ANSWER, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ANY AGEMENT, ASSUME FISCAL YEARS. WHO IS THE EMPLOYEES? I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF DIRECTORS, ARE THEY ALL VOLUNTEER OR ARE THOSE POSITIONS PART OF THE SALARIED EMPLOYEES?

JUST CURIOUS. >> YES. PEOPLE ON THE STAFF MAKE THAT

HAPPEN. >> THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE ON THE WEBSITE ARE ALL THE STAFF

PEOPLE? >> UM, I BELIEVE SO. >> ALL RIGHT.

JUST CURIOUS. I DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS ON STAFF. I APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU.

JUST WANTED TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS. >> JUST TO CLARIFY MORE, TAMI, IF I REMEMBER HER WEBSITE LIST OF BOARD OF MEMBERS. ALL ARE VOLUNTEERS.

PAID STAFF MEMBERS, SEPARATE SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT TEAM MEMBERS.

THOSE ARE SALARIED INDIVIDUALS. PEOPLE ON THE BOARD ALL VOLUNTEERS.

>> RIGHT. THAT WASN'T CLEAR. APPRECIATE IT.

>> STILL IN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 4? SEEING NO ONE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. ACCEPT MOTION AND SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER YATES. >> SECOND MAYOR PRO TEMPORE PRICE.

FURTHER DISCUSSION. >> COUNCILMEMBER YATES YES. COUNCILMEMBER CRAVER YES.

COUNCILMEMBER REGAN YES. >> MAYOR? YES.

[8. Ordinance (Final Reading): Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Amending Chapter 18, "Motor Vehicles and Traffic," Article VII., "Stop, Yield Intersections," Article X, "Stopping, Standing, and Parking," and Article XIII, "Schedules," of the Abilene Municipal Code, By Amending Certain Sections As Set Out Below, Providing A Severability Clause; And Declaring A Penalty (Max Johnson)]

>> I WILL ASK MAX JOHNSON TO PRESENT THIS ITEM. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR COUNCIL. FINAL READING FOR CHAPTER 18 MOTOR VEHICLES IN TRAFFIC.

THIS MODIFICATION IS DUE TO THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF ABILENE THROUGH THE YEARS IT HAS BECOME A LITTLE OUT OF DATE. WE ARE BASICALLY BRINGING THIS CODE UP TO THE STANDARD FOR OTHER CITIES OUR SIZE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TAKING OUT DETAILS THAT AREN'T REQUIRED OR

NEEDED IN THE ORDINANCE, ANY QUESTIONS? >> ONE ABOUT THE HOW THINGS ARE HANDLED UNWARRANTED STOP. IN THE PAST WE APPROVED STOP SIGNS AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL.

IS THAT STILL GO THROUGH A WHOLE ORDINANCE PROCESS? JOOG IT WILL.

>> EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT IN THE ORDINANCE? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> ONES UNWARRANTED, I DIDN'T SEE ANY THAT WEREN'T STRUCK OUT. >> WOULD STILL BE COVERED UNDER

THE ORDINANCE, SIR. >> THEY ARE NOT LISTED. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. >> ALL BASED ON THE TMUCD FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS.

>> FURTHER QUESTIONS OF MAX? >> SO MAX, YOU KEEP A LIST OF THOSE TYPES OF INTERSECTIONS?

>> THAT IS WHAT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS. REASON WITH THE GROWTH WE HAVE NEW SUBDIVISIONS COMING. ORDINANCE CHANGED PRETTY MUCH EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

>> WE PREVIOUSLY LISTED EVERY INTERSECTION. >> EVERY STOP SIGN, YES, SIR.

>> IN THE CASE WE MIGHT SAY HEY, PUT A STOP SIGN HERE, EVEN THOUGH THE TRAFFIC STUDIES DON'T

WARRANT THAT? >> THOSE WILL BE COVERED BY THE RESOLUTION.

>> YOU KEEP A SEPARATE LIST? >> RESOLUTION IS A DOCUMENT HELD BY THE CITY SECRETARY.

WE DO HAVE A COPY. >> WE HAVEOSE. >> THANK YOU.

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>> THANK YOU. >> GENTLEMAN? >> PUBLIC COMMENT, ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 8. SEEING NO ONE, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. FURTHER DISCUSSION. ACCEPT MOTION AND SECOND.

>> MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEMPORE LYNN BEARD. SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER

MCALISTER. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER REGAN YES.

COUNCILMEMBER YATES YATES YES. MCALISTER YES. CRAVER YES.

[9. Ordinance (Final Reading) CUP-2023-05: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on A Request From Alan Wartes, Represented By Jovon Christophe, To Apply A Conditional Use Permit To Approximately 0.17 Acres To Allow For A Daycare Within Residential Single Family (RS-6) Zoning For Up To 12 Children. Located At 3236 Ambler Avenue. (Tim Littlejohn)]

>> MAYOR? >> YES. >> PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT

SERVICES TO PRESENT. >> THANK YOU, CONDITIONAL USE 2023-05.

OWNER ALAN WARTES. DAY CARE UP TO 12 CHILDREN. LOCATION MAP.

CURRENT ZONING MAPS. ZONED RS 6. VIEWS OF THE SUBJECT PROJECT.

NOTIFICATION. WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY IN RETURN. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN USES AND ZONING. , PNZ.

COPE I OF ALL LICENSE SHALL BE PROVIDED BEFORE ISSUANCE OF OCCUPANCY S.

>> QUESTIONS FOR TIM? >> ON EXHIBIT 1. TALKS ABOUT PARKING, TWO

VEHICLES AT A TIME. HOW DO WE MANAGE THAT? >> WE WOULDN'T.

APPLICANT STATED THEY HAVE DIFFERENT DROP-OFF TIMES WITH CURRENT CUSTOMERS NOW.

THEY DO HAVE ENOUGH SPACE THERE FOR OFF SIDE. THEY INTEND TO USE THE DRIVEWAY TO THE WEST. AND ALLOW THE CUSTOMERS TO USE THE MAIN DRIVE.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL OF THE REQUESTS FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE

AGREED TO BY THE OWNER? >> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU TTIM.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR

AGAINST ITEM 9 COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] KRISTOFF, I AM THE DAY CARE PROVIDER. I HAVE BEEN DOING DAY CARE FOR 14 YEARS, ALMOST 9 YEARS AT THIS LOCATION. I HAVE 12, REGISTERED FOR 12 THROUGH THE STATE. I AM TRYING TO EXPAND MY BUSINESS DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY GOING THROUGH THE CITY. I PRETTY MUCH ALREADY HAVE 12 KIDS.

IF I HAVE SIX IN THE DAY AND SIX IN THE EVENING, I HAVE 12. IN THE SUMMER I HAVE 12 ALL DAY.

I AM JUST TRYING TO BECOME A LICENSED HOME. JUST DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> WE APPRECIATE THAT.

CHILD CARE IS VERY IMPORTANT. >> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM PLEASE COME FORWARD? SEEING NO ONE, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL ACCEPT MOTION AND SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CRAVER.

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER REGAN.

FURTHER DISCUSSION, READY TO VOTE. CRAVER YES, PRICE? YES. BEARD? YES.

COUNCILMEMBER REGAN YES. COUNCILMEMBER MCALISTER YES. MAYOR?

[10. Ordinance (Final Reading) Z-2023-24: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on A Request From Amazing Grace True Grit, LLC, Represented By Sara Trammel, To Change The Zoning Of Approximately 0.68 Acres From Residential Single Family (RS-12) To A Planned Development District (PDD-183) To Allow For A Medical Spa. Located At 642 Sayles Boulevard. (Tim Littlejohn)]

>> YES. >> ITEM NO. 10, LITTLEJOHN TO PRESENT.

Z-2023-24. REQUEST TO CONSIDER REZONING RS 12 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT 183 AND MAINTAINING HISTORIC OVERLAY, 642 SAYLES BOULEVARD. LOCATION MAP.

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CURRENT ZONING. VIEWS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. HERE IS THE CURRENT PERMITTED USES WITHIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. NOTIFICATION.

WE DID RECEIVE ONE IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED. 12.04% OPPOSITION FOR THIS REQUEST. P &Z DID HEAR THIS CASE. THEY ARE RECOMMENDING TO YOU THIS MORNING APPROVAL. SHALL BE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION, BASE ZONING PD WITH A MEDICAL SPA SUBJECT TO ATTACHED PLAN OF OPERATION. SIGNATURE OF OCCUPANCY DIVISION PRIOR TO COMMENCING BUSINESS. PROPERTY MAY CONTINUE TO BE USED AS ITS CURRENT USE UNTIL CO ISSUED TO ALLOW THE PROPOSED MEDICAL SPA. USE OF PROPERTY AS A BED AND

BREAKFAST OR EVENT CENTER SHALL BE PROHIBITED. >> TIM, WHERE YOU KNOW OF THE CONCERNS IS THE PARKING. IS THE PARKING ON THE -- PICTURE IS THAT PARKING COMING OFF OF SAYLES, IS THAT PARKING TO THE RIGHT? HOLD ON.

>> FOR YOU LOOK AT AERIAL, TIM. >> OKAY. ON THE NORTH, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY. THERE IS BROWN AREA UNDER THOSE

TREES, IS THAT A PARKING LOT? >> YES. CURRENT PARKING THERE.

>> ON THE SITE? >> YES. ON SITE.

>> SHOULD BE NO OFF SITE. ALL ON SITE. >> THANK YOU.

>> TIM ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS IS TRASH AND NOISE. IS THAT ALLEVIATED WITH THE NEW

PERMIT? >> YES. THIS WILL BE MUCH LESS INTENSIVE USE THAN BED AND BREAKFAST. TAKING PLACE INTERIOR WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES PROVIDED

FROM MEDICAL STAFF. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR

TIM? THANK YOU, TIM. >> THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ITEM NO. 10 GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

ACCEPT MOTION AND SECOND. >> SO MOVED. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER

BEARD. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER

YATES. FURTHER DISCUSSION. >> BEARD?

>> YES. REGAN YES. COUNCILMEMBER YATES YES.

COUNCILMEMBER MCALISTER YES. CRAVER YES. PRO TEMPORE PRICE YES.

[11. Ordinance (Final Reading) Z-2023-26: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on A Request From KKP Investments, LLC, Represented By Jacob & Martin, To Amend The Terms Of Planned Development District 172 To Allow Single-Family Residential Uses With No Through Connection To East Stamford Street. Located At 2668 Garfield Avenue. (Tim Littlejohn)]

MAYOR? >> YES. >> WE'LL MOVE TO NO. 11 ASK TIM LITTLEJOHN TO PRESENT. 2023-26. REQUEST TO AMEND PD 172 CONDITION SPECIFYING NO THROUGH CONNECTION TO EAST STANFORD STREET.

2668 GARFIELD AVENUE. HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP. CURRENT ZONING MAP.

EXISTING CONCEPT PLAN SHOWING MEDIUM DENSITY TO THE NORTH WITH RS 6 IN THE FRONT ON THE SOUTH.

HERE IS PROPOSED ZONING CONCEPT PLAN. TURNING MEDIUM DENSITY TO RS 6 DISTRICT. PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN. HERE IS USES AND CURRENT CONDITIONS OF THE MEDIUM DENSITY. HERE IS RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. VIEWS OF SUBJECT PROPERTY. NOTIFICATION.

FOUR IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED RESULTING IN 00.02% OPPOSITION. THAT SHOULD SHOW P&Z

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RECOMMENDING TO APPROVAL THIS MORNING. HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS? I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS?

>> YES. >> IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN UNDER THIS?

>> YES. NO THROUGH STREETS TO STANFORD. AGENT WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. DONE A THOROUGH JOB OF ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERNS.

I BELIEVE THIS WILL STILL MAINTAIN THEIR CONCERNS. >> SO ACCESS TO THE NEW

DEVELOPMENT FROM GARFIELD? >> YES, SIR. >> TWO METHODS OF INGRESS AND

EGRESS SO NO FIRE SERVICE CONCERNS? >> NO, SIR.

>> FIRST READING REQUEST MADE TO ADD TO THE LANGUAGE AND THAT WAS DONE YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> BASICALLY SAID THE SAME THING. LITTLE MORE CLEARLY

UNDERSTANDABLE WITH THE WORDS. >> SPECIFY BOTH CAMPUS COURT. >> YES, SIR.

>> TIM COULD YOU SPEAK LITTLE BIT ON THE ORDINANCE, LANGUAGE VS. DESCRIPTION STRIKE THROUGHS, RED PAGE 253. PEOPLE E-MAIL ME WITH QUESTIONS ON THAT.

PAGE 253 AT THE BOTTOM AND THEY WERE REFERRING TO THE LANGUAGE IN RED STRIKE MODIFICATION 1A REPLACE WISDOM NO ROAD GARFIELD AND EAST STANFORD STREET. VERSES I BELIEVE ADDITIONAL PECS TRA KIND OF HALF SENTENCE IN THE EARLIER DOCUMENT ON AND THERE WILL BE NO STREET CONNECTION CAMPUS COURT AND EAST STANFORD EXHIBIT A. THAT IS ON PAGE 247.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE DIFFERENCE THERE? IF THE CHANGES NEEDED IN LEGAL

DESCRIPTION STRIKE THROUGHS. >> MAIN DIFFERENCE PROPERTY BEFORE HAD ACCESS POINT TO THE MEDIUM DENSITY FROM THE NORTH. NOW THAT IT IS TURNING INTO RS 6, THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE EASEMENT AS AN EASEMENT NOT EVER DEVELOP AS A STREET. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO USE THE EXISTING STREETS THAT ARE IN PLACE TODAY. THAT IS PROTECTION TO KEEP

THROUGH TRAFFIC TO DECREASE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC CAUSED. >> WITH EXHIBIT AN ON PAGE 246 -- 247, THREE LINES. NO STREET CONNECTION BETWEEN CAMPUS COURT AND EAST STANFORD.

I THINK IN REGARDS WHY IT WAS INCLUDED IN LEGAL DESCRIPTION. LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION THERE.

>> RIGHT. I THINK THE AGENT WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO BETTER EXPLAIN THAT THAN I CAN. I DON'T HAVE THAT EXHIBIT IN FRONT OF ME.

>> TAKING THE EXISTING ONE THEN SHOWING MODIFICATION IT WAS TAKEN TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

THE CHANGE THAT IS ON PAGE 253. WHAT IS ON PAGE 247 REFLECTS CHANGE MADE AFTER THE FIRST READING. THAT IS THE DISCREPANCY THERE. WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING TODAY IS

ON 247, THAT IS THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE LANGUAGE. >> RIGHT, SO MY QUESTION TO TIM, THAT LANGUAGE DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION, QUESTION MARK.

>> APPEARS THE AGENT COMBINED LEGAL DESCRIPTION MADE IT CONFUSING.

FINAL DOCUMENT HAS THAT IN THE BODY OF THE PD. IT IS CONFUSING THE WAY THAT THE PARTICULAR SLIDE HAS THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND PD CHANGES TOGETHER.

>> ORDINANCE DOCUMENTS GOVERNING. >> CORRECT.

>> I WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE CITIZEN WHAT WILL BE BINDING. >> YES, SIR.

>> ONE OTHER QUESTION CAMPUS COURT NORTH OF GARFIELD AND CITY DEEDING IT OVER.

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THAT WILL BE A SEPARATE PROCESS PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE TO INITIATE WITH REGARD TO RIGHT-OF-WAY ABANDONMENT. THAT IS NOT PART OF WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT TODAY?

>> RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT. >> THIS THERE WILL BE NO STREET CONNECTION. THAT IS ONLY TIED TO THIS? HERE IS MY CONCERN.

I DON'T WANT US TO INCUMBER FUTURE COUNCILS 20-30 YEARS FROM NOW WHO KNOWS.

IF THEY EVER CHANGE THAT ZONING. I KNOW IT IS LIKELY, HOMES WILL BE THERE.

IF THEY EVER CHANGED THAT ZONING, DOES THIS GO AWAY? THIS NO CONNECTION ONLY APPLY TO THIS PARTICULAR PD REQUEST IF THAT CHANGES, WOULD THAT BE READDRESSED?

>> IT WOULD FOLLOW BOUNDARIES OF THIS PROPERTY. ANY ALTERATIONS WOULD COME BACK

TO THE COUNCIL. >> TIM IS RIGHT. I THINK IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A BULLET PROOF WAY TO MAKE SURE GARFIELD AND CAMPUS COURT GO TO EAST STANFORD.

CITY TO ABANDON RIGHT-OF-WAY WE CAN DO. THAT IS NOT AS PROBLEM.

WE WILL DO. THIS HAS BEEN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND IN THE EIGHT YEARINGS I WORKED FOR THE CITY.

CONSISTENTLY COUNCIL EXPRESSED DESIRE TO NOT HAVE CONNECTION BETWEEN EAST STANFORD TO GARFIELD OR CAMPUS COURT. WE WILL, WE WILL ACT ACCORDINGLY TO PERFECT THAT OUTCOME.

>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU TIM. >> I'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM. GIVE YOUR NAME.

>> ONE CARD, CARMEN PRICE. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? CARMEN WANTED.

>> GOOD MORNING. AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER. WHEN MY CLIENT PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY A YEAR OR SO AGO, WE CAME TO THIS CITY TO ASK FOR A PD AMENDMENT.

TIM OUTLINED IT IN THE PE BEGINNING, TO HAVE RS 6 MULTIFAMILY CONNECTED TO THE NORTHEAST STANFORD: IT WAS MY CLIENT'S CONCEPT TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.

SINCE THAT TIME THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF THINGS THAT HAD TO HAPPEN.

UNFORTUNATELY THOSE THINGS DID NOT WORK OUT. WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY. THAT IS OUR REQUEST RS 6 SINGLE FAMILY CONNECTED BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. JUST AN EXTENSION OF THIS EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.

ONE VERY IMPORTANT POINT WE WANTED TO KEEP IN THE PD NO CONNECTION AT ALL BACK TO EAST STANFORD OR I-20. EVEN THOUGH MY CLIENT HAS ONLY HAD THE PROPERTY SHORT TIME, THERE IS HISTORY WITH REGARDS TO ZONING. WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRIOR TO SUBMITTING ANY REQUEST. WE DID.

WE HAD A MEETING ONE SATURDAY MORNING WITH AS MANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE COULD GATHER.

FELT LIKE THE MEETING WENT REALLY WELL. CONVEYED OUR INTENT, REQUEST WOULD BE TO THE CITY. PROVIDED OUR LAYOUT. SLIGHTLY MODIFIED FROM MEET INNING MAY. STILL SAME INTENT. MEE MEETING WENT WELL. I FELT LIKE THE THEY WERE COMFORTABLE WITH OUR APPROACH.

WITH RESPECT TO MAKING SURE THERE IS NO CONNECTIVITY BACK TO I-20, COUPLE THINGS, 1.

WE ARE TIED TO OUR CONCEPT PLAN. THIS CONCEPT PLAN IS CONNECTED TO THE PD.

WE CAN'T DEVIATE. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN.

A PORTION OF THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY. IF I CAME TO THE CITY AND SAID I WANT TOP BUILD A ROAD.

I WANTS TO EXTEND CAMPUS COURT. I CAN'T DO IT. THERE IS NOT ENOUGH RIGHT-OF-WAY. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEDICATED. WE CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT ANY

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CONNECTIVITY BACK TO EAST STANFORD. WE ARE WILLING TO MODIFY ANY OF THE LANGUAGE WE NEED TO IN THE PD TO GET EVERYONE COMFORTABLE. WE WILL BE PURSUING ABANDONMENT LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSING HOW EXACTLY WE NEED TO GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED.

THAT IS PART OF THE NEXT STEP FOR US. HAVING SAID THAT P&Z AND STAFF, WE BELIEVE OUR REQUEST IS APPROPRIATE LAND USE AND WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

>> THANK YOU, JOE. >> THANKS, JOE. >> STILL IN PUBLIC COMMENT

PERIOD. PUBLIC HEARING. >> HI, I AM CARMEN PRICE.

I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND TALK TO Y'ALL TODAY.

IT HAS BEEN 10 YEARS. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG HARD PROCESS AND WE DID MEET IN MAY WITH TOW AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A GOOD FIT FOR IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I SPOKE AT THE FIRST READING WHEN THIS WAS ON CONCEPT AND REQUESTED THE CHANGE AND THE WORDING IN PART 7. AFTER CONFIRMING AND GET THING SUPPORT OF THE PROPONENT, STAFF UPDATE TODAY PACKET TO WHAT YOU ARE SEEING TODAY.

I WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO TOW AND JACOB AND MARTIN FOR REACHING OUT TO INCLUDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS. WE WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE AND THANKFUL THEY WERE LISTENING AND HEARING OUR VOICE. AS A COMMUNITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I ALSO WANT TO APPRECIATE THE STAFF AND THEIR SUPPORT IN THE PROCESS. IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME. MAKING SURE THE WORDING IS RIGHT AND EVERYBODY IS IS COMFORTABLE. EVERYONE THAT ATTENDED THE MEETING IN MAY WITH TOW INDICATED SUPPORT. THAT WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF US COMING ALTOGETHER AND HAVING ONE VOICE AND NO DISSENSION. PERSONALLY I AM EXCITED FOR THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT AND EXTENSION OF THE HOMES AND IT IS A GOOD ATIGS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY. I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> CARMEN, PIP WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND DEDICATION TO THIS.

TEN YEARS, I KNOW THAT. EVEN BEFORE I WAS ON HERE H. VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE PUT INTO THIS. I THINK YOU SPEAK AS A GREAT SPOKESMAN FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY. PIP WANT TO SEND A TREMENDOUS THANK YOU.

>> THANK Y'ALL. >> ANY QUESTIONS. >> STILL IN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.

SEEING NO ONE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. FURTHER QUESTIONS ACCEPT MOTION

AND SECOND. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER

PRICE. SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER BEARD. >> PRICE?

>> YES. BEARD? >> YES.

REGAN YES. YATES YATES YES. >> MCALISTER YES.

CRAVER YES. MAYOR HURT? YES.

[12. Ordinance (Final Reading) Z-2023-28: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a request from Darin Albergucci, represented by e-HT, to change the zoning of approximately 4.80 acres from Light Industrial (LI) to General Commercial (GC). Located at 910 Bandera Park. (Tim Littlejohn)]

>> YEE HAU. TIM LITTLEJOHN PRESENTING. >> THANK YOU, 2023-28.

DARRIN ALBERGUCCI. LOCATED 910 BANDERA PARK DRIVE. LOCATION MAP.

CURRENT ZONING MAP. PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

PERMITTED USES WITHIN GENERAL COMMERCIAL. VIEWS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

NOTIFICATIONS, TWO IN FAVOR TWO OPPOSED. FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATION, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND USES, P &G RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

THIS REQUIRES SUPER MAJORITY VOTE FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER THIS MORNING.

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I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> QUESTIONS OF TIM?

>> TIM, OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION ZONE, BUT ONE LOT OVER FROM PROPOSED BASEBALL TRAINING FACILITY ADULT ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENT, ANY CONCERNS FROM ZONING PERSPECTIVE REGARDING

THAT? >> WE CAN'T STOP PEOPLE FROM BUILD WHERING THEY WANT TO BUILD EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD MAKE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT OUT OF COMPLIANCE. THEY WERE THERE FIRST.

AS THIS AREA TRANSITIONS IT WILL FIX ITSELF IN THE FUTURE. THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A BIT OF INTEREST DOWN 80 HERE LATELY. STAFF FEELS IT WILL BE TRANSITIONING IN THE OTHER AREAS

WILL CLEAN THEMSELVES UP. PER SE. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

[LAUGHTER]. >> THANK YOU, TIM. >> THANKS, TIM.

>> AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST

ITEM 12, COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> BJ PRICHARD.

AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT. THEIR INTENTION IS TO BUILD A SMALL TRAINING FACILITY.

OUTDOOR TRAINING FIELD BEHIND IT. TRYING TO MAKE BEST USE OF FLOOD ISSUES. INTENTION BEING THEY COULD REPURPOSE THIS IDEA IF THE BASEBALL OPPORTUNITY DIDN'T WORK OUT. THEY COULD GO BACK TO INDUSTRIAL

OR COMMERCIALLY-RELATED FACILITY WITHOUT MUCH CHANGE. >> SIMILAR TO D-BAT?

>> YES. >> LITTLE INDOOR FACILITY AND OUTDOOR WHEN WEATHER PERMITS.

>> ALL AGES OR TARGETING? >> I AM NOT 100% SURE S. I WOULD ASSUME MOST AGES.

>> I HAVE TEE BALL FOR YA. >> GOSH. >> FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR BJ? STILL IN PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PLEASE COME

FORWARD. >> MY NAME IS PAUL JOHNSON. I OWN THE PROPERTY.

ALMOST SURROUNDING THE CITY OWNS SOME OF IT, TOO. I OWN 62 ACRES.

BWJ METAL WORKS. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPING THE LAND.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT STAY INDUSTRIAL. WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL FOR A REASON.

THAT REASON I AM DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY AND PROPERTY AROUND IT IS THAT IT WOULD STAY INDUSTRIAL. NOW CHANGING IT TO GENERAL. THAT IS FOUR ACRES USED FOR BASEBALL FACILITY. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT GOES AWAY? IF YOU'LL LOOK AT YOUR LIST OF WHAT IT IS, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A DEVELOPMENT THERE.

I HAVE JACOB AND MARTIN DOING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENGINEERING DESIGN ON THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY ALSO OWN BEHIND IT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I AM GOING TO DEVELOP THAT IF WE DON'T KEEP IT INDUSTRIAL. THAT IS THREE PLANTS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THINK ABOUT THAT AS YOU GO ALONG YOUR DECISIONS HAVE IMPACT ON EMPLOYEES, AND FUTURE

DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. >> WE ARE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM SEE ISSING NO ONE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. FURTHER DISCUSSION IF NOT ACCEPT MOTION AND SECOND.

>> SO MOVED. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MCALISTER.

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER YATES.

FURTHER DISCUSSION READY TO VOTE. >> MCALISTER YES.

CRAVER YES. PRICE YES. BEARD YES.

REGAN YES. YATES YES. HURT?

[13. Ordinance (Final Reading) Z-2023-29: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a request from Moore Abilene Holdings, LP, represented by Alex Moore, to change the zoning of approximately 0.64 acres from Heavy Industrial (HI) to Heavy Commercial (HC).Located at 2222, 2234, 2250 Butternut Street. (Tim Littlejohn)]

YES. MOTION CARRIES. >> MOTION CARRIES.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM 13. TIM LITTLEJOHN TO PRESENT. >> THANK YOU, Z-2023-29, OWNER MOORE ABILENE HOLDINGS. AGENT ALEX MOORE. FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL. 222, 2223, 2250 BUTTERNUT STREET.

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LOCATION MAP. HERE SR. CURRENT ZONING MAP S. HERE ARE THE EXISTING USES IN HI. HERE ARE THE PROPOSED USES WITHIN THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

VIEWS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. NOTIFICATIONS SENT OUT. WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION. CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING, P&Z DID HEAR THIS CASE AND RECOMMENDING TO YOU APPROVAL THIS MORNING. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF TIM? THANK YOU. >> YOU ALREADY SAID THANK YOU.

CAN I GO BACK. >> ANY IDEA WHAT THEY ARE DOING? >> MAKES STRIP CENTER LITTLE MORE MARKETABLE AND OPENS UP USES. BUTTERNUT TRANSITIONED FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL OR GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, TIM.

AT THIS TIME OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 13 PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

SEEING NO ONE I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ACCEPT AS MOTION AND SECOND. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER REGAN. SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER PRICE.

FURTHER DISCUSSION. >> COUNCILMEMBER REGAN YES. YATES YES.

MCALISTER YES. CRAVER YES. PRICE YES.

[14. Discussion: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing on the Impact of Water Supply Contracts on Rural Development in Abilene's ETJ (Rodney Taylor)]

BEARD YES? >> HURT YES. >> MOTION CARRIES.

>> NOW MOVE TO ITEM 13 S. RODNEY TAYLOR TO PRESENT THIS ITEM. >> RODNEY BEFORE YOU START YOUR PRESENTATION, THIS ITEM, THIS HAS SIPPING CANT POLICY IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND REGION. WE ARE BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE THE MODEL WE HAVE WORKED UNDER IN THE PAST IS DATED AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. I DO NOT ANTICIPATE COUNCIL PROVIDING DIRECTION TODAY. YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO. CERTAINLY YOUR RIGHT.

INTENT IS TO START THIS POLICY DISCUSSION. IT CAN TAKE AS LONG AS IT NEEDS TO. IMPORTANT WE GET THIS RIGHT WATER FOR OUR REGION AND CITIZENS. I THINK RODNEY AND TEAM HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB PUTTING TOGETHER COMPLICATED FUNCTION. WE'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT AND ASK NUMBER OF POLICY QUESTIONS TO START THE DISCUSSION. THIS CAN GOBBING WHERE COUNCIL CHOOSES.

>> RODNEY TAYLOR. HAPPY TO LEAD DISCUSSION ABILENE'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. I WILL BE COVERING FOLLOWING TOPICS, ENCOURAGE YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY AND TAKE CONVERSATION WHICHEVER WAY FEELS APPROPRIATE.

OTHERWISE I'LL WORK THROUGH OUR MATERIAL. ABILENE IS THE REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY PROVIDER FOR THIS AREA. THIS IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. DEMONSTRATED IN THE MAB BEFORE YOU TODAY ABILENE BEING THE CENTER IN TAYLOR COUNTY. ABILENE PROVIDED WATER THROUGHOUT TAYLOR COUNTY INTO SIX ADJACENT COUNTIES IN THIS AREA.

THOSE WATER PROVIDERS ARE OUR WHOLESALE PURCHASERS. MANY EXCLUSIVELY ACQUIRE WATER FROM CITY OF ABILENE. KEEP IN MIND WHOLESALE WATER PROVIDERS UNIQUE ENTITIES UNDER STATE OF TEXAS. THEY HAVE SERVICE AREAS THAT ARE PROTECTED BY A CITY LIMITS MUNICIPAL-TYPE ENVIRONMENT OR THROUGH A CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY.

SO THOSE ARE PROTECTED SERVICE AREAS. ONCE THOSE ARE ESTABLISHED, CITY NOR OTHER PROVIDERS CAN STEP IN AND TAKE OVER SERVICING THOSE AREAS.

ABILENE A REGIONAL PROVIDER. FIRST CONTRACT 1954. SINCE THAT INITIAL PROCESS STARTED. THERE ARE 17 CONTRACTS. ONE IS A TREATMENT CONTRACT.

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ALL THE OTHERS ARE WATER TREATMENT PROVISION CONTRACTS. EACH CONTRACT REKNEWED IN 2004.

THERE WAS AN ESTIMATED QUANTITY THAT EACH ENTITY PROVIDED TO THE CITY OF ABILENE SET BASE RATE FOR THAT CONTRACT. WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THOSE CONTRACTS, BASE RATE WOULD APPEAR TO BE WHAT IS THE VALUE ENTITY HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE. KEEP IN MIND AUTOMATIC RATCHET CLAUSE. AS THEIR DEMANDS GROW OVER TIME, CONTRACT ALLOWS FOR THAT GROWTH WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF APPROVAL PROCESS THROUGH THE CITY. IT IS WHAT THE CONTRACT VALUE IS FOR THAT YEAR. BOTTOM LINE ORIGINAL CONTRACT VALUES SHOWN ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. ACTUAL CONSUMPTION. BLUE NUMBERS ALL OF THE ENTITIES THAT EXCEED GREATLY EXCEED. THIS IS A TOOL TO SEE THESE ENTITIES ARE CONTINUING TO GROPE AND TAKE ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLY FROM THE CITY OF ABILENE. GRAPH 2 WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION CUSTOMERS AND GROWTH AND CONNECTIONS. TYPICALLY WE DON'T MONITOR NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS. IT IS IMPORTANT IN THAT NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS THEY HAVE ARE USED BY THE TCQ TO CALCULATE THE SUPPLY REQUIRED FOR THEIR SYSTEM.

THAT SUPPLY REQUIRED IS THROUGH THE CONTRACT VALUES WE PROVIDE FOR EACH TAKE POINT FROM OUR SYSTEM INTO THEIR SYSTEM. AS THEIR CONNECTIONS GROW, THEIR NEED GROWS.

THEIR NEED TO COME BACK TO THE CITY TO INCREASE TAKE POINT RATE ISES WHAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. GRAPH 3 SIMILAR GRAPH. ANNUAL GROWTH AND WATER USED BY EACH OF THESE ENTITIES FROM 2005 AND 4. YOU CAN SEE TWO OF THE ENTITIES STAND OUT AS A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER ANNUAL CONSUMPTION. THEIR GROWTH TENDS TO BE HIGHER.

IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEGEND, THAT VALUE REPRESENTS THE GROWTH IN MILLION GALLONS PER YEAR AVERAGE OVER THIS PERIOD OF THE GRAPH. YOU CAN SEE STEAM BOAT MOUNTAIN GROWN BY 7 MILLION GALLONS OVER THAT PERIOD. SOME HAVE GROWN LESSER THEN THAT.

THESE ARE MUNICIPAL CUSTOMERS. YOU CAN SEE FOR THE MOST PART THERE HAS NOT BEEN SIGNIFICANT GROWTH ON THE CITY. THERE ARE SOME ERRATIC CURVES. ASSOCIATE WISDOM THE FACT COLLIDE CAN PRODUCE ITS OWN WATER DURING THIS PERIOD A LOT OF TIMES VERY DEPENDENT ON ABILENE FOR WATER. IT IS OFTEN ASKED HOW DOES OUR WATER USAGE COMPARE THIS GRAPHICALLY DISPLAYS THAT. THE WHOLESALE DEMAND MAKES UP 17% OF OUR TOTAL BUILD CONSUMPTION IN A GIVEN YEAR. THE GROWTH THAT WE SEE WITHIN THE CITY IS JUST A LITTLE LESS THAN 1% OF QUANTITY CONSUMED A YEAR OR BUILD PER YEAR. FOR RETAIL.

AND WHOLESALE DEMANDS BIGGER THEN THAT. I THINK ABOUT 1% ON THE AVERAGE IS CONSISTENT FOR BOTH OUR WHOLESALE DEMAND AND RETAIL DEMAND.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE SEEN IS A LOT OF GROWTH. JUST REPRESENT THIS H. WE HAVE

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DONE A CUMULATIVE COUNT OF THE GROWTH OF PLATTED LOTS WITHIN THE SERVICE AREAS OF OUR WHOLESALE PROVIDERS. THIS IS REALLY KIND OF BRINGS TO THE ATTENTION THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH AND SUBDIVISIONS THAT WE ARE SEEING OUTSIDE THE ABILENE CITY LIMITS BUT WITHIN OUR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. DOES NOT INCLUDE LITTLE FARMER SUBDIVISIONS WHERE A FAMILY IS DIVIDING ONE LOT OFF FOR A FAMILY MEMBER. THIS IS ALL PLOTTED SUBDIVISIONS WITH THE INTENT OF SELLING THE LOTS OFF FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. SOME OF THE ISSUES STAFF IS BRINGING TO YOUR ATTENTION TO CONSIDER IS, THE FACT IS SINCE 2000, THE CITY HAS IDENTIFIED OVER 2500 SUBDIVISION LOTS WITHIN ABILENE'S ETJ. THAT ARE PART OF OUR WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS SERVICE AREAS. THESE ARE CLOSE OR ADJACENT RURAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

IN ESSENCE BLOCKING ABILENE'S OPPORTUNITY TO FUTURE GROWTH OUTWARDS FROM OUR EXISTING CITY LIMITS. THAT IS A CONCERN. THINK ABOUT.

WHERE CAN ABILENE EXPAND BORDERS AND GROW IF WE HAVE ALREADY GOT DEVELOPMENT ENCROACHED ON OUR LIMITS. NEW HOMES THAT ARE BUILT OUT IN OUR RURAL AREAS RIGHT NOW IN ESSENCE LOST OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE. WE WOULD LOVE FOR THAT HOME TO HAVE BEEN BUILT WITHIN THE CITY OF ABILENE. IT IS ASSUMED THAT, THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TYPE OF GROWTH WE ARE SEEING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW IS AT LEAST PARTLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE FACT THAT ABILENE IS PROVIDING WATER THAT OTHERWISE THOSE QUANTITIES PROBABLY NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. OTHER THING THIS WILL LEAD TO AS YOU GET DENSE RESIDENTIAL POPULATIONS, YOU WILL SEE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT FOLLOW THAT. THAT WILL OCCUR OUTSIDE OF ABILENE CITY LIMITS.

WHAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROBLEM? ONE IS FACT THAT ABILENE HAS HISTORICALLY PROVIDED ALL THE WATER THAT ARE THE WATER SUPPLY CORPORATIONS HAVE NEEDED TO PROVIDE WATER TO ALL OF THEIR REQUESTS. PROBLEM WE HAVE NOW SINCE 2019, TEXAS LEGISLATURE IN THEIR WISDOM DECIDED CITIES DIDN'T NEED ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO GROW ON THEIR OWN CONTROL. VERY DIFFICULT TO GO OUT AND ANNEX AREAS, YOU HAVE TO PROVE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY. APPROVAL THROUGH REFERENCE DUMB FOR APPROVED VOTERS.

THOSE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE OF ANNEXATION. WE SEE THAT IS NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN. IT IS NOT, ABILENE'S RURAL GROWTH NOT ALL NEGATIVE.

THOSE RURAL COMMUNITIES HAVE IDENTITY AS PART OF ABILENE. ABILENE HAS A THRIVING BUSINESS ECONOMY. WE HAVE A LOT OF NEED FOR JOBS. ABILENE IS VERY DEPENDENT ON REGIONAL WORKFORCE. IS THAT AREA IS PART OF OUR REGIONAL WORKFORCE.

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THAT POPULATION OUT IN THIS RURAL AREA GETTING TO BE RELATIVELY DENSE.

THEY ARE DEPENDENT ON ABILENE. THEY ARE PRODUCING SALES TAX IN ABILENE EVENTUALLY ENDS UP IN GENERAL FUND COFFERS WHICH IS A GOOD THING. WHOLESALE RATES TYPICALLY HIGHER THAN THE TYPICAL RATE WE CHARGEED TO OUR RETAIL CUSTOMERS.

SO PREMIUM THEY PAY GOES INTO OUR REVENUE STREAM USED FOR MAINTENANCE OF WATER UTILITY.

THOSE FUNCTIONS ALSO INCLUDE PLANNING AND DEVELOPING FOR FUTURE WATER SUPPLIES FOR BOTH OUR AND THEIR NEEDS. WATER SUPPLY CONTRACT 2004, THEY WERE UPDATED.

CONTRACT LANGUAGE SPECIFIC TO THAT RELATED TO OUR CONVERSATION TODAY.

I'LL READ IT TO NOT INTENDED TO ENCOURAGE OR PERMIT NEW OR ADDITIONAL LARGE DEVELOPMENT OR SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY. THAT LANGUAGE CREATED BACK IN 1963 CITY NEGOTIATED THE CONTRACT. IF YOU LOOK IN THE FILES OF THE CONVERSATIONS, GREAT CONCERN WITH THE CITY: DO WE START DOWN THIS ROAD? BECAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR DISTRICTS ENCROACHING ON ABILENE CITY LIMITS AND THIS VERY THING WE ARE SEEING TODAY HAPPENING. WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF ROOM TO GROW.

INTENT OF THIS LANGUAGE. CONTRACT GOES ON TO SAY THEREFORE CORPORATION AGREES NOT TO FURNISH ANY CUSTOMER WATER CONNECTION EXCEEDING METER SIZE ONE AND A HALF.

THAT WAS SOMETHING IMPLEMENTED AS A CONTROL MECHANISM. SO IN GENERAL CONTRACT LANGUAGE INTENDED TO LIMIT RURAL SUBDIVISION GROWTH. REALLY THE CITY HAS NOT UP TO THIS POINT EVER ACTED ON A WAY TO ENFORCE THAT. RURAL SUBDIVISION GROWTH CONTINUED UNCHECKED SINCE 1963. IT IS HAPPEN PG BEFORE OUR EYES. IT IS NOT A SECRET.

SO REALLY THE QUESTION IS: IS THAT MAXIMUM METER SIZE REALLY EFFECTIVE MEANS OF CONTROLLING COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OUT IN ETJ.

DATA BEFORE YOU SAYS IT IS NOT. I AM GOING TO SKIP NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES IF IT IS OKAY.

DEALING WITH PLATTING REQUIREMENTS INSIDE THE CONTRACT.

GOOD INFORMATION FOR YOU TO HAVE IN YOUR PACKET. I DON'T KNOW IT IS THAT IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS TODAY. WE CAN IF YOU WANT TO. THIS TAKES TO THE POINT WE HAVE INFORMATION BEFORE US. I ENCOURAGE DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT THERE ARE THINGS THAT, QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THE PATH FORWARD WE CAN'T MOVE BACK. WE CAN'T GO AND UNDO THE THINGS UP TO THIS POINT.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO CHANGE OUR PATH IN THE FORWARD TO ADDRESS CONCERNS WE MIGHT HAVE IF WE HAVE CONCERNS? SO THE QUESTION IS, DOES THE COUNCIL REALLY DESIRE TO ATTEMPT TO RESTRICT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY'S ETJ? PRETTY SIMPLE QUESTION.

WHEN WE GET INTO THAT, THEN THE SUBQUESTIONS ARE, IS THIS COMING COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CONCERN? AT WHAT POINT IS IT A CONCERN? IS A GAS STATION A DOLLAR GENERAL OR HEB? AT WHAT POINT WOUR A CONCERN TO THE COUNCIL.

ALSO ON A SUBDIVISION, SEVERAL HUNDRED HOME SUBDIVISION IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, IS IT 10 HOME SUBDIVISION OKAY OR ALL OKAY? THOSE ARE QUESTIONS I PUT BEFORE THE COUNCIL, THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT. HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT A POLICY MIGHT LOOK LIKE MOVING INTO THE FUTURE. RIGHT NOW THERE IS AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM WE HAVE TOUCHED ON ON THAT IS A VIOLATION FOR AN ENTITY TO

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PROVIDE LARGE DEVELOPMENT. VIOLATION OF THE CONTRACT AND WHEN WE ASK ABOUT LARGE, WE BELIEVE THAT LARGE IS RELATED TO IF IT IS GREATER THAN INAND A HALF METER OR NOT.

STARTING TO SHOW. UP TO THIS POINT IT HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE.

AS WE SEE MORE OPPORTUNITIES GROW, ARE WE PREPARED TO TAKE A POSITION ON THAT AND INITIATE ENFORCEMENT? HARD TO GO BACK IN TIME AND FIX THINGS, WE CAN FIX THINGS MOVING FORWARD. THOSE ARE QUESTIONS TO PONDER AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION.

NO COMMENT, I AM GOING TO MOVE TO THE NEXT POINT. DOES THAT CITY DESIRE FOR ITS OWN RETAIL USE? IN DOING SO, AT SOME POINT IN TIME CITY WOULD SAY WE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL CONTRACT INCREASES. FROM MY POSITION TODAY, I HAVE NO RECOMMENDATION OR INTENT TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO NOT PROVIDE WATER AT THE VOLUMES WE PROVIDE NOW. THIS WOULD LOOK AT INCREASES INTO THE FUTURE AT SOME POINT IN TIME. THIS WOULD BE A VERY HARSH POSITION TO TAKE FOR THE CITY ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THINGS LIKE THE EXISTING CONTRACT IMPLIES THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO FIND THOSE SOURCES AVAILABLE. SO FAR WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE CHARGED WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS TO AT LEAST TO DUE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS SUSTAINABILITY IN WHAT FUTURE GROWTH THEY MAY HAVE PLANNED FFRP. THAT GROWTH IS PART OF THE WATER PLANNING PROCESS THAT IS A COMPONENT OF THE STATE WATER PLAN.

THOSE PLANNING PROCESSES ARE NECESSARY TO OCCUR BEFORE ANY OF OUR MAJOR PROJECTS CAN BE FUNDED THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. THEY HAVE TO BE IN THAT PLAN.

ALL OF THESE ARE PIECES OF A BIG PUZZLE. WHEN WE START MANIPULATING THE PIECES, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES THAT MAKING THOSE CHANGES CAN HAVE ON NOT ONLY THEIR FUTURE, BUT ON ABILENE'S FUTURE AS WELL AS FAR AS WATER PLANNING GOES.

IT IS NOT ALL JUST EASY. Y'ALL GET TO MAKE A LOT OF EASY DECISIONS.

THIS ONE MIGHT BE LITTLE TOUGHER. ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE WHOLESALE PURCHASERS REGULATED THROUGH TCEQ AND PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION.

WHEN YOU START TAKING ACTIONS TO EFFECT THEIR ABILITY TO MEET HEALTH AND SAFETY NEEDS THAT WOULD BE A TIME WHEN TCQ COULD COME IN AND SAY YOU HAVE EXCESS WATER AVAILABLE.

THEY HAVE A HEALTH AND SAFETY NEED. YOU NEED TO PROVIDE THEM WITH WATER UNTIL THERE IS A SOLUTION. IF THERE IS NO SOLUTION YOU ARE STUCK WITH THAT OBLY KWAGS.

IT IS NOT EASY TO SAY WE ARE THROTTLING THE TAP. ANOTHER APPROACH IS WHAT I AM GOING TO CALL MANAGE QUALITY CONTRACT APPROACH. WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER WE ARE GOING TO MAKE AVAILABLE TO WHOLESALERS INFORMATION -- IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY ARE DEVELOPING NOW. IF THEY NEED TO GROW FASTER NAN WHAT WE ARE PROR VIEDING WATER FOR. THEY CAN DO THAT. THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT ON THE WATER THEY GET. OR THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK FOR OTHER SOURCES OF WATER.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE HARD TO COME BY NOWADAYS FOR SMALLER SYSTEMS. WE WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP A FORMULA, A SCHEME. IT WILL TAKE WORK TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. IT IS A DOABLE THING. EITHER COME UP WITH WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AND PUT IT INTO THE STATE WATER PLAN OR ALLOW STATE WATER PLAN TO HELP US IN DEVELOPING WHAT THAT ALLOCATION MIGHT LOOK LIKE. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE

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WOULD BE DRIVING THE TRAIN. WE WOULD BE DICTATING HOW MUCH WE WOULD MAKE AVAILABLE AND THAT WOULD BE THE INPUT INTO THE PLAN. ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT APPROACH. THIS WOULD BE MORE OF NOT NECESSARILY LIMITING WHAT THEY CAN TAKE. IT WOULD BE MANAGED TAKE. IT WOULD BE A TAKE OR PAY.

IF YOU WANT MORE WATER, YOU ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT WATER. ON A TAKE OR PAY BASIS.

WHATEVER THAT CONTRACT VALUE IS, YOU ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THE FULL CONTRACT VALUE.

IF YOU NEED SO MUCH WATER IN 10 YEARS, YOU ARE GOING TO PAY 10TH YEAR FROM THE FIRST YEAR FULL VALUE. RIGHT NOW ONLY PAYING WHAT IS BILLED TO YOU.

AS I MENTIONED TAKE RATES. TAKE RATES TEND TO BE CONTROL MEM MECHANISM.

YOU WILL PAY SOME VALUE TO RESERVE THAT RATE IN ABILENE SYSTEM.

LAST CONTRACT WITH HOLY WATER SUPPLY INCORPORATED THIS PARTICULAR STEP.

WE REQUIRED HALL A TO PURCHASE, RESERVE, TAKE POINT CAPACITY. THAT MAKES SENSE FOR ABILENE MOVING FORWARD. WE CAN CONSIDER THAT AS WE CONSIDER OUR POLICIES.

>> JUST REAL QUICK, TAKE OR PAY PRICING, THAT IS OUR CONTRACT WITH PK CURRENTLY?

WE HAVE A TAKE OR PAY? >> WE DO. WE ARE NOT TAKING A DROP OF WATER FROM POSSUM KINGDOM. SAME APPROACH HERE. THEY TAKE 100 MILLION CURRENTLY, WANT 10 MORE. IMPLEMENT TAKE OR PAY PRICING. FROM THAT POINT THEY WOULD PAY

FULL PRICE EACH YEAR FOR THAT FULL CONTRACT QUANTITY. >> I HAVE COMMENTS AND I WILL

WAIT UNTIL RODNEY IS FINISHED. >> REALISTICALLY, WE ARE ABOUT TO THAT WRAP UP POINT.

THIS HAS BEEN PRETTY SIMPLE. Y'ALL HAVE BEEN A QUIET GROUP TODAY.

MOST WHOLESALE PROVIDERS, THIS CAME FROM AUSTIN THAT DEALS WITH WATER PROBLEMS ON DAILY BASIS.

HIS COMMENT, STATE WATER PLAN PROVIDERS TYPICALLY CONTINUE TO ADDRESS REGIONAL WATER NEEDS IN THEIR PLANNING PROCESS. THAT IS THE STANDARD ACROSS THE STATE.

TAKING A POSITION WE ARE GOING TO THROW RESPONSIBILITY BACK ON WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS IS WHAT HE WOULD CALL UNPRECEDENTED RIGHTS NOW. WE HAVE TAKEN ACTION TO MEET ABILENE'S FUTURE WATER NEEDS. THERE ARE PUBLIC RELATIONS CONCERNS.

WHEN YOU START TAKING ACTIONS THAT MAY IMPACT OUR WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS, WHOLESALE POPULATION, PUBLIC RELATIONS CONCERNS. WE NEED TO JUST RECOGNIZE IT. YOUR PHONE WILL RING AS IT TYPICALLY DOES WHEN THESE TYPES OF ISSUES DO WHEN THERE IS CONTROVERSY.

WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE THINGS. THE PROCESS WE ARE REALLY IN A POSITION RIGHT NOW ON CEDAR RIDGE. WE HAVE A PERMIT APPLICATION FOR THE STATE FOR WATER RIGHTS ASEWS YATES WISDOM CEDAR RIDGE. THAT IS IN THE WORKS AS WE SPEAK. WE HAVE AN APPLICATION TO THE CORE OF ENGINEERS FOR THING RIGHT TO CONSTRUCT THAT RESERVOIR ON THE CLEAR FORK AT BRAZOS RIVER.

THAT IS APPLICATION ALREADY SUBMITTED. REMEMBER THAT WE, WE'LL HAVE TO SHOW THE CORE, DEMONSTRATE TO THE CORE PURPOSE AND NEED FOR DOING THIS MAJOR PROJECT ON A

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RIVER. PART OF THAT IS SHOWING YOUR DEMAND. WE HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE, NEED IS BASED PARTLY ON OUR POSITION OF A REGIONAL WATER SUPPLIER.

WE ALSO NEED TO THINK ABOUT ANOTHER IMPLICATION OF WHAT THAT COULD MEAN IF WE CHANGE COURSE ON HOW WE PROVIDE WATER TO THE REGION. ALSO, PRACTICALLY ALL OF OUR WHOLESALE PURCHASERS ARE FUNDED IN SOME WAY BY THE USDA RURAL YOU TILL TILL SERVICE FUNDS.

THEY HAVE A VESTED SERVICE FOR WHICH THEY FUND. AS WE WERE TO TAKE ACTIONS THEY COULD POSSIBLY IMPACT ABILITY TO OPERATE IN A WAY TO BE FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE TO THE DEBT THEY OWE. LIKELY TRIGGER ADDITIONAL INVOLVEMENT FROM THEM LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR OWN ASSETS. THEY ARE DEPENDENT ON A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER TO PAY THEIR BILLS. WHEN THAT WATER SUPPLY IS LIMITED, IT IMPACTS THEIR FUTURE PROSPECT FOR FINANCIALS. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF A DEVELOPING A POLICY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

IT IS UNUSUAL TO USE -- IT IS JUST CREATE AS BURDEN WHEN IT COMES TO PLANNING AND DEVELOPING WATER SUPPLIES. YOU DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW YOUR QUANTITIES AND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE. YOU HAVE HISTORICAL DATA. PEOPLE DON'T HAVE BLOCKS OF CAPACITY. WE ARE RELYING ON HISTORIC DATA. IF THE HISTORICAL PATTERNS WERE CONSISTENT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WAY OF DOING IT. WHAT WE ARE OBSERVING, THEY ARE CHANGING. AS DEVELOPABLE LOTS IN ABILENE BECOME MORE SCARCE AND AFFORDABLE LOTS DEVELOPED UPON, BUILDERS ARE RIGHTLY BASED ON MARKET CONDITIONS LOOKING OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS FOR CHEAPER LOTS. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE TO LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY. THAT IS A PERSONAL CHOICE THEY MAKE.

WE SEE THAT TAKING PLACE. DEVELOP PATTERN ETJ INCREASED. THE MODEL WE USE IS NO LONGER WORKING. I WOULD RECOMMEND WE LOOK AT COUPLE OF THINGS, 1.

WE SHOULD REMAIN REGIONAL WATER PROVIDER. I DON'T WANT TO FACE TCEQ AND HAVE THEM DICTATE TO US. SINCE 1954 ABILENE STEPPED OUT AND SAID WE WILL BE A WATER PROVIDER. THERE WOULD BE A HAILSTORM IF WE DECIDED TO BACKTRACK FROM THAT.

SECOND THING IS, WE SHOULD SHIFT TO QUANTITY RESERVATIONS IN TAKE OR PAY MODEL.

THAT WILL ALLOW COMMUNITIES WE SERVE, WHOLESALE WATER CUSTOMER PS WE SERVE TO PLAN FOR FUTURE WATER NEEDS. ALLOW CITY OF ABILENE TO BETTER PLAN FOR FUTURE WATER NEEDS.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO INTENT -- INTELLIGENTLY SAY WE -- WE ARE NOT OVEREXTENDING OR OVEROBLIGATING OUR KNOWN WATER SUPPLY QUANTITIES. 2.

WITH OUR WHOLESALE CUSTOMER PERCENTS AND CURRENT IN-CITY CUSTOMERS, FUNDING FULL COST OF WATER SUPPLY DEVELOPMENT AND PREFUNDING. BEGINNING TO PREFUND COSTS AS WELL. CEDAR RIDGE IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF COMPREHENSIVE WATER SUPPLY STRATEGY. WE KNOW THERE IS A BILL FOR THAT FRMENTS THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T BEGIN TO PREP FUND FOR THAT FUTURE EXPENDITURE. WE KNOW IT IS COMING.

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MAT R OF TIME. WE SHOULD BE STARTING TO PRECOLLECT AND PUT THE MONEY ASIDE SO THE DEBT IS NOT 400 MILLION DOLLAR, 500 MILLION DOLLAR CONSTRUCTION PRICE.

WE'LL ALREADY HAVE MONEY IN THE COFFERS TO BUY DOWN THE DEBT SERVICE.

IT IS A GOOD USE OF DEBT. IT IS A WATER SUPPLY. IT WILL BE THERE A LONG TIME.

COUNCIL STATED DESIRE TO CASH FINANCE PROJECTS TO THE EXTENT WE CAN.

THERE ARE PLANNING COSTS THAT STILL NEED TO BE PAID FOR. THERE ARE DESIGN COSTS.

THOSE COSTS WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL. NOT INCLUDED IN THE CONSTRUCTION PRICE OF THAT RESERVOIR.

NO REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T AND CAN'T BEGIN TO COLLECT AS WE CONTINUE FOR PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE WATER SUPPLY. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THOSE THINGS.

>> WE ARE THE REGIONAL WHOLESALE PROVIDER. WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.

WE KNOW ESTIMATED GROWTH OF OUR POPULATION WE ARE GOING TO GROW 17%.

I THINK WE NEED A MORE CLEAR PROCESS. I DON'T THINK WE CAN TURN THE TAP OFF. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AND HAVE QUESTIONS.

ULTIMATELY COST OF GETTING AND TREATING WATER COMES DOWN TO CITY OF ABILENE.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FUTURE NEEDS, CEDAR RIDGE OR OTHER SUPPLIERS. GETTING A WATER CHEST WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. THAT NEEDS TO BE SHARED EVEN WITH THE WHOLESALERS.

WE DO NEED A MORE CLEAR PROCESS. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER. SOMETHING I AM REALLY READY TO

WORK ON. >> QUESTIONS. >> RODNEY, DAIS AIR FORCE BASE,

ARE THEY CONSIDERED RETAIL CUSTOMER? >> JUST TO CLARIFY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DISTRIBUTION FACILITY. DAIS AIR FORCE BASE FULLY DEPENDENT ON CITY OF ABILENE FOR TREATED WATER. THEY TAKE THAT IN AND OPERATE PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM VERY SIMILAR TO ALL OF THE OTHER WATER SYSTEMS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

WE TYPICALLY IN OUR DISCUSSION PERCENTS AND PLANNING DON'T CONSIDER DAIS AS A WHOLESALE CUSTOMER. THEIR SYSTEM IS LOCATED WITHIN OUR ABILENE CITY LIMITS.

WE TREAT THEM MORE AS INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMER RATHER THAN WHOLESALE CUSTOMER.

>> YOU MENTIONED ONE AND A HALF INCH LIMIT AS AN ATTEMPT TO DISCOURAGE COMMERCIAL GROWTH WITHIN WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS. JUST FOR CLARITY, DOES THAT LIMIT APPLY TO THE CITY

CUSTOMERS, IS IT ONLY WATER SERVICE CORPORATIONS? >> I BELIEVE THAT CLAUSE IS ONLY IN OUR WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION CONTRACTS. RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT IMPOSE A

LICHLT ON THESE CUSTOMER MUNICIPALITIES. >> HAVE WE SEEN THAT VIOLATED

WITH REGARD TO GOING ABOVE ONE AND A HALF INCH CONNECTION? >> I WILL SAY WE ARE SEEING IT TESTED RIGHT NOW. QUITE A BIT OF CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW AS IT HAS BECOME MORE OF AN APPARENT ISSUE THAT WE ARE SEEING RV PARKS AND THINGS BEING DEVELOPED TYPICALLY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS WOULD REQUIRE MORE WATER THAN INCH AND A HALF METER.

I CAN'T TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY WHAT SIZE OF A METER ANY EXISTING CUSTOMER HAS OUT IN OUR

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ETJ. I CAN SAY SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE, THEY ARE BEING REQUESTED TO PROVIDE EITHER A METER LIMITED TO INCH AND A HALF PARALLELED WITH SOME OTHER METER INESSENCE VIOLATE THAT INTENT. METER.HAT ARE REQUESTING LARGER- SO WE ARE IN A HOLDING PATTERN, WE ARE ADVICING OUR WHOLESALERS TO NOT PROVIDE THAT.

THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE WATER SAME AS CITY OF ABILENE WHEN WE HAVE APPLICANT FOR WATER WE CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHO WE SERVE. WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WATER UP TO INCH AND A HALF. CAN'T PROVIDE MORE THEN THAT. REALISTICALLY TO UNDERSTAND FULLY, WE WOULD NEED TO PERFORM AND AUDIT EACH ONE OF THE WHOLESALERS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT. AND HOW WE MIGHT ADDRESS THAT GOING FORWARD.

>> DO THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE US WITH A LIST OF CONNECTIONS THEY ARE IMPLEMENTING?

I GUESS THEY DON'T SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING AN AUDIT. >> TYPICALLY THEY DON'T INFORM

US OF A NEW CUSTOMER. >> OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS WE ADDED 50 METERS.

>> TYPICALLY WE HAVE NOT REARED A REPORTING, TCEQ MONITORS THAT. WE CAN LOOK AT TCEQ'S REPORT DATA ON HOW MANY CONNECTIONS THEY HAVE GROWN FROM YEAR TO YEAR AS THEY REPORT THAT TO TCQ.

>> HOW UP TO DATE IS THE INFORMATION FROM TCQ? >> ANNUAL.

AS IT HAPPENS NOT AS WAY? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> AWUDIT FROM TCEQ?

>> AUDIT DIRECTLY WITH CUSTOMERS. >> FOLLOWING UP ON THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS AND ROBERT'S COMMENTS AS WELL. WE ARE RELIANT UPON CONTRACTS WITH, K AND HUBBOARD AND IVY WE WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES BIG CITIES, SAN ANGLO, MIDLAND, AS FAR AS COLORADO RIVER MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, BRAZOS WATER AUTHORITY. IF WE WERE TO PULL BACK AND SAY WE ARE NOT AS MUCH OF A REGIONAL PARTNER, I THINK THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WOULD BE HARDER TO RENEW CONTRACTS WITH AND THE STATE IS LOOKING AT THE STATE. THEY EXPECT WATER TO THE REGION. TO EXPRESS A SIMILAR POSITION TO WHAT ROBERT SHARED, WE DON'T NEED TO STEP BACK AT ALL FROM BEING WATER PROVIDER TO OUR REGION. AND YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF SQUARE MILES CITY OF ABILENE. WE LIKE TO LOOK AT SISTER I DID A CHART WHERE WE ARE SQUARE MILES AND POPULATION DENSITY. WE HAVE THE LOWEST DENSITY, ONLY CITY THAT HAS MORE SQUARE MILES IS LUBBOCK. THAT IS TAKING OFF SURFACE AREA OF FPHANTOM, LIABLE AND CUR BY.

A LOT OF OTHERS HAVE SMALLER WATER FEATURES. WE ALREADY ARE BIG.

TALKING EXPANSION. IT IS NOT JUST WE BRING IN PROPERTY THAT IS WE GET PROPERTY TAX FROM. WE HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF PROVIDING FIRE SERVICE WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AND POLICE PROTECTION. RUNNING SEWER LINES AS WELL AS WATER LINES.

BEFORE 2019 CHANGE REMOVED OUR ABILITY TO VOLUNTEER ANNEX. FIRST YEAR ON THE COUNCIL THE CONTENTIOUS ISSUE, FEW MONTHS AFTER MY FIRST ELECTION, INVOLUNTARY ANNEXATION PROPERTY OWNERS OPPOSED TO. APPROVED 4-3. I VOTED NO.

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PEOPLE CHOOSE TO MOVE OUTSIDE THE CITY FOR A REASON SOMETIMES. IF THEY SAY THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE CITY, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY IN MY VIEW TO DO THAT THAT MEANS THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO SOME OF THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE IN THE CITY. THEY ALSO ARE PAYING TAXES, THEY ARE NOT VOTING ON CITY COUNCIL ELECTIONS, BONDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE IS A TRADE-OFF THEY MAKE IN THAT DECISION. WHEN WE LOOK AT COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL GROWTH OUTSIDE IN ETJ. THAT CONCERNS ME MORE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS AN IMPACT I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUES TO ADDRESS THROUGH THE METER LIMITATIONS AND OTHER DISCUSSIONS HOW WE CAN PROTECT THAT.

WE ARE THE ECONOMIC CENTER FOR THIS AREA. WE PROVIDE THE JOBS.

WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN THIS REGION. AND BE ABLE TO EARN A LIVING.

AND SO, THING PS WE HAVE BEEN DOING MORE RECENTLY WHERE WE ARE TACKLING THE STREETS, STREET MAINTENANCE FEE AND GOING AFTER AMENITIES AND WALKING TRAILS AND ADDRESS THOSE THINGS, I THINK ONE THING WE NEED TO CONTINUE FOCUSSING ON IS BEING ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE SO THEY WANT TO LIVE HERE AND CHOOSE TO LIVE HERE AND PURSUING INFILL DEVELOPMENT SO WE CAN TURN PROPERTIES THAT IS OLD ABANDONED HOME PERCENTS AND CLEAR LOTS AND ATTRACT PEOPLE INTO THE CITY LIMITS AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS HERE IN TOWN. THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF MY THOUGHTS.

>> YOU KNOW RODNEY, YOU MENTIONED WE HAVE THIS INCH AND A HALF METER REQUIREMENT, WHATEVER. YOU SAID DOES THE METER SIZE CHECK THE GROWTH, YOU SAID NO.

IF WE ARE NOT ENFORCING IT, WE DON'T KNOW IT WOULDN'T CHECK THE GROWTH OUT.

SO, THAT, I JUST THINK IF WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A TOOL WE HAVE ALREADY IN PLACE, AGAIN NOT GOING BACKWARDS. IF WE HAVE THAT MECHANISM IN PLACE TO CHECK OR DISCOURAGE FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. DISCOURAGE THAT GROWTH OUT.

IF WE HAVE THAT TOOL IN PLACE, IS THERE A REASON WHY WE ARE CHOOSING NOT TO ENFORCE IT.

MAY NOT BE AN ISSUE. IF WE ARE NOT ENFORCING IT, WI DON'T KNOW IT HAPZN'T BEEN AN

ISSUE. >> YES, I I HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION APPROACHING EIGHT YEARS. SO YA KNOW, IF WE HAVE BEEN BEEN ENFORCING IT, IT FALLS ON ME.

IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY. I ACCEPT THAT. PATTERN HAS BEEN SINCE 1963 WHEN THIS LANGUAGE FIRST INTRODUCED. I AM NOT AWARE ANY TIME THAT HAS BEEN QUESTIONED, CHALLENGED ENFORCED OVER TIME. IT IS A PATTERN THAT DEVELOPED. I THINK THE QUESTION NOW IS: DO YOU WANT ME TO START DOING WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS? NOT ONLY WILL MY PHONE RING, YOUR PHONE WILL RING. LET'S DECIDE AS A MUNICIPALITY WHAT IS OUR APPROACH? HOW DO I NEED TO RESPOND TO THAT TO DO MY JOB TO MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS?

>> RODNEY, INCH AND A HALF METER SIZE RESTRICTION IS A JOKE. IN THE METROPLEX AVERAGE 5/8 TO 3/4 INCH. 2 INCH MINIMUM METER SIZE TO RUN A SMALL COMMERCIAL FACILITY.

WE ARE NOT FAR FROM THAT WITH INCH AND A HALF. A LOT OF WATER THAT GOES THROUGH INCH AND A HALF. WHEN I CAME TO ABILENE, I WONDERED WHY, IT HAS BEEN OUR HISTORY. THAT HAS BEEN OUR CULL WHICH YOU WERE AND HISTORY.

INCH AND A HALF IS NOT A GOOD MECHANISM FOR CURTAILING OR CONTROLLING WATER QUANTITY.

>> RODNEY, I AM NOT COMING AT YOU. >> I DON'T TAKE IT THAT WAY.

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>> JUST KIND OF SEE, I AM SPEAKING MAYBE IF WE ENFORCE WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS WITH THE PROCESS I DON'T KNOW. MAYOR SAID WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS HERE. JUST BEGINNING THIS CONVERSATION.

>> LET ME SEE IF I CAN MAKE SURE JUST TO CREATE A SUMMARY WHERE THINGS STAND.

WE HAD THESE CONTRACTS IN PLACE A LONG, LONG TIME GOING BACK INTO THE 50S.

I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT YOURP RESPONSIBILITY FOR THINGS.

NO OFFENSE, 50S PREDATES YOU. RIGHT, MAYBE NOT SOME OTHERS IN THE ROOM.

WHOLE GENERATIONAL THING, RIGHT TRAVIS. WE HAVE CONTRACTS DUE TO THE LACK OF GROWTH OR SLOW GROWTH OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS PARTICULARLY ETJ UNTIL THE LAST 10-15 YEARS. IS THAT ACCURATE? EVEN IN THE LAST, IF YOU LOOK AT THESE GRAPHS. STEAM BOAT AND, POTOSY. DWOENT KNOW HOW MANY METERS ARE OUT THERE. IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU RIGHT, WE NEED TO AUDIT THAT TCEQ DATA.

WHEN DID THIS START HAPPENING? WHAT IS THE DEMAND AND PROJECTIONS FOR THE DEMAND ON THE SYSTEM. THEN WE CAN HAVE MORE ACCURATE INFORMATION TO DECIDE BASED ON THE SCOPE OF THE PROBLEM. SECOND THING IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF A TIME LINE? BY WHEN DO WE NEED TO HAVE A NEW POLICY IN PLACE? HOW LONG DO WE HAVE?

>> THIS IS NOT A SPRINT. THIS IS A MARATHON. IN ORDER TO DO IT PROPERLY, TO CHANGE OUR SERVICE PROVISIONS, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MEET WITH THE WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS.

OTHER THAN CHANGING LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT. THEIR DAY-TO-DAY LIFE ISN'T IMPACTED MUCH. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY TURN THE TAP OFF.

OPPOSITE, RIGHT. HOW DO WE BEST PLAN FOR WATER SUPPLY.

PLANNING APPROPRIATE FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY AND ETJ.

I THINK AN AUDIT HELPS START THAT UNDERSTANDING OF HOW FAR DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE ARE WE GOING HERE? TO SUM THAT UP, COUNCILMEMBER BEARD, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE IN 30 DAYS. IF IT TAKES THE REST OF THE YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, THAT IS FINE.

WE JUST NEED TO HAVE DELIBERATE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO RETOOL AND RESHAPE OUR ROLE AS A REGIONAL WATER SUPPLIER. DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN OUR REGION HAVE SHIFTED. WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT AN APPROPRIATELY ADJUST SO WE CAN

PLAN FOR REGION'S WATER SUPPLIES. >> MY INCLINATION IS TO SAY LET'S GET STARTED. IT IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER.

I SHARE SHANE'S CONCERN. WE HAVE TO WALK A LITTLE BIT OF A TIGHT ROPE.

WE DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT GROWTH TOO MUCH. WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE MOVING INTO THE CITY. ALSO IF PEOPLE WANT TO BUILD IN THE COUNTRY, LIVE IN THE COUNTRY. THIS IS TEXAS. YOU CAN DO THAT IF YOU CHOOSE.

NICK DEVELOPMENTS CONCERNS LITTLE MORE OF A TIGHT ROPE. WE DON'T WANT TOP INCENTIVIZE TO

TAKE JOBS OUTSIDE ABILENE. THE MARKET FORCES WILL -- >> HOW ARE OTHER PLACES HANDLING, LUBBOCK, WICHITA? HAVE THEY TAKEN A DIFFERENT APPROACH AND WE ARE THE OUTLIER?

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>> SOME UNIQUENESS IN ABILENE IN THAT THEY HAVE, THOSE CITIES HAVE NOT MADE THE EARLY DECISIONS TO BECOME REGIONAL SUPPLIERS WITH NO CONTROL. A LOT OF THOSE IF DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS UTILITIES ARE PROVIDED THAT IS A PLANNED EFFORT WITH INTENT WITH ANNEXATION ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THAT IS MORE TYPICAL FOR COMPARABLE CITIES. ABILENE BROKE AWAY FROM THAT PATTERN AND SET A POLICY BACK TO 1982 IF IT WASN'T REASONABLE FOR ADJACENT ANNEXATION. EXPLODING POPULATION, THE SERVICES EXPAND WITH ANNEXATION ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. HERE GROWTH IS HAPPENING WITH NO

ANNEXATION. >> GREAT WAY OF SAYING IT. OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB OF LIMITING GROWTH IN ETV INTENTIONALLY. ABILENE TOOK A PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH SAID ALL GROWTH IS GOOD. AND OPENED UP WATER TO ETJ DEVELOPMENT IN A WAY THAT WAS LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE WHICH PROFESSIONALLY, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. I INTEND TO ECHO COMMENTS, PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN THE COUNTY, LIVE IN THE COUNTY. THIS IS TEXAS.

MY BIG CONCERN SYSTEM WE HAVE NOW RESULTS IN MY OPINION A HICKLEDY PLANNING PROCESS SO WE

CAN PROPERLY PLAN AND COLLECT TO PAY FOR FUTURE WATER SUPPLY. >> I WOULD LIKE --

>> I AM GOING TO NEED A DEFINITION. >> MEANS DISORDERLY.

[LAUGHTER]. >> ALSO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR PEER CITIES, SOURCE IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. LUBBOCK IS ALL WELLS. I THINK THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT, TOO. THE WAY WE GET WATER IS VERY DIFFERENT, TOO.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> IT IS EASY TO START DISCUSSING DEVELOPMENT AND LIMITING RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS AND EVEN COMMERCIAL STUFF WITHIN THE ETJ.

WE HAVE GREATER RESTRICTIONS ON LAND USE THAT GOT AN MEET SUSTAIN ED AND EMOTIONAL REACTION FROM ALL THE PEOPLE EFFECTED IN THE ETJ. OUR ABILITY TO GO AND ENFORCE ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE FIVE MILE LIMIT OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS IS, IT IS NOT A SIMPLE THING. PLUS THE GREAT MAJORITY OF DEVELOPMENT IF YOU LOOK AT MAP OF PROVIDERS, RURAL DEVELOPMENT IS NOT WITHIN OUR FIVE MILES OF CITY LIMITS.

MOST OF THIS STUFF IS WELL OUTSIDE ETJ AND OUR ABILITY TO LIMIT GROWTH OR MANAGE IT OR SHAPE IT IN ANY WAY. THEY JUST DON'T CARE. THIS IS A WATER ISSUE.

>> YES, SIR. >> THIS IS NOT ANNEXATION OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE.

THOSE ARE CONNECTED BUT SEPARATE. I THINK IF WE FOCUS ON, WE NEED TO BE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR WATER DEVELOPMENT. ANSWER IS YES, WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE WATER. THERE IS NO OTHER MORAL ANSWER. WE CAN'T SAY NO.

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IT IS ON US TO PLAN FOR YES. I THINK THE WAY FORWARD IS MY OPINION IS CEDAR RIDGE.

I AM UNAWARE OF ANYTHING THAT REMAINS TO BE DEVELOPED. ADOPTING ORDERLY PLANNING TOOL SUCH AS RESERVED TAKE OR PAY WHICH WE HAVE WITH POSSUM KINGDOM.

OUR WATER CONTRACTS TRANSITIONING, OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE SOMETHING WHICH ALLOWS US TO PREDICT AND JUSTIFY DEVELOPMENT I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO.

THEN WE START A DISCUSSION OF HOW DOES THAT WORK? HOW DO WE SHARE COSTS? HOW DO WE PLAN THE TIMELINE FOR THIS? BUT WE HAVE GOT TO KEEP THIS BALL MOVING FORWARD. CORE OF ENGINEERS WILL RAPIDLY LOSE INTEREST IN CEDAR RIDGE IF WE DO NOT PUSH THIS. THEY WILL BUREAUCRATICALLY SIT ON IT UNTIL IT JUST GOES AWAY.

I SAY THAT ON SOMEONE THAT SERVED A LONG TIME IN A BUREAUCRATIC ORGANIZATION QUITE ADEPT AT DOING THAT. NOW IS THE TIME TO PLAN FOR FUTURE WATER USE.

IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTION PERCENTS AND HOW BIG OF A PIPE DO YOU NEED? I DON'T KNOW.

ANSWER IS GO GET MORE WATER. LET'S THEN PLAN WITHIN THOSE LIMITS SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN HAVE WHAT WE NEED FOR THE FUTURE. I THINK THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO GO IS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT NOT NECESSARILY LIMITING OR RATIONING WHAT WE HAVE GOT.

WE DID A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TO DEVELOP OUR FUTURE WATER NEEDS FOLLOWING THE DROUGHT OF RECORD RESET. WHAT WAS THAT? 2016, I THINK THEY RESET THAT.

BASICALLY ONCE THE NEW DROUGHT BECAME ON RECORD. WE WERE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE STARTED. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLY AND WATER SOURCES.

PREVIOUS ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON PREVIOUS CLIMATE RECORDS WERE NOW OUTDATED.

WE HAVE A PLAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOT. I THINK MOVING FORWARD ANYTHING THAT HELPS US JUSTIFY THE ECONOMIC IMPACT WITH THE NEED FOR WATER FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY WITH THE CORE OF ENGINEERS, THAT IS DEAFLY A -- DEFINITELY A PLUS.

THIS TAKE OR PAY APPROACH HAS TO BE NEGOTIATED. IF WE ARE PUTTING THIS AS A CONTRACTED PLAN. THIS IS FOR ALL OF US SO WE CAN SAY YES.

WE NEVER WANT TO BE IN THE POSITION TO SAY NO MORE WATT R FOR YOU.

WE ALWAYS WANT TO SAY YES. THAT IS IT IS DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO.

>> ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION. MAYBE FOR ROBERT AS WELL. HOW BIG OF A QUESTION IS THE CEDAR RIDGE? THIS DISCUSSION? DO WE NEED TO SAY YES OR NO OR DECIDE ON THAT FIRST? NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO CEDAR RIDGE THEN THAT IS GOING TO, WE NEED TO CRACK DOWN HARD ON WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. OKAY, LET'S MOVE FORWARD ON CEDAR RIDGE, THIS GOES TO THE BACK BURNER NOW. HOW BIG OF A PART IS THAT?

>> ASSUMING WE ARE ABLE TO AFFORD THE GROUND WATER AND IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING NOW, OUR WATER NEEDS ARE MET BASED ON WHAT WE UNDERSTAND GROWTH CURVES TO BE INTO THE 2070S.

>> 2060. SO REALLY THE QUESTION IS THAT IS NOT THAT FAR FROM NOW PLANNING FOR WATER NEEDS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO THOSE WHO LIVE IN ABILENE 50 YEARS FROM NOW, BE VERY UPSET IF WE SAID WE ARE NOT DOING CEDAR RIDGE PERIOD.

RIGHT. THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR WATER STRATEGY.

MY OWN ANALYSIS CHANGED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. IN LARGE PART BECAUSE WHAT

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COUNCILMEMBER YATES SUGGESTED, ALL THE GAINS WE MADE AND MONEY WE SPENT SECURING OTHER RESOURCES, THEY WERE ABSORBED BASE ON THE NEW DROUGHT ON RECORD.

IT IS NOT THAT WE ARE STARTING OVER, WE CLIMBED THE MOUNTAIN ONLY TO FIND THERE IS ANOTHER MOUNTAIN YOU HAVE TO CLIMB, TOO. WE NEED TO KEEP CEDAR RIDGE IN OUR PLANNING HORIZON.

WE ARE WORKING HARD TO SECURE WATER RIGHTS. STATE OF TEXAS.

THAT IS A LOGICAL STOPPING POINT. IN THE PAST IN THE DISCUSSIONS, I SUGGESTED WE STOP. I THINK GIVEN DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS WE ARE SEEING HONESTLY, CONCERNS I HAVE WSHG OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS AND APPROVAL OF CEDAR RIDGE.

I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP PLOWING. AND THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED. BEING ABLE TO PROVE OUR NEED.

GOING TO RESERVATION TAKE OR PAY, I THINK HELPS ARTICULATE THAT NEED IN A WAY EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WE KNOW WE HAVE THESE BLOCKS OF WATER ACCOUNTED FOR. I THINK WE CAN SHOW OUR NEED.

>> I WOULD SAY AND I APPRECIATE LYNN SHARING THIS EARLIER, DEFINITELY LEANING ON RESEARCH ANALYSIS PIECE. I WAS EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT AND IMPACT ASSESSMENT. I DO THINK AND EVERYONE SAID SAME THING, I WON'T BE LABOR IT.

FIGURING OUT WAYS IN WHICH POLICY IN PLACE GIVES US MORE SUSTAINABLE IMBALANCE GROWTH IN THE FUTURE AND ENABLES US TO BE MORE STABLE. MOVING FORWARD IS DEFINITELY WHAT I AGREE IN TERMS OF THE THINGS ECHOED. SO I AM ALL ABOUT FIGURING OUT WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN DIVERSIFY OUR WATER SUPPLY IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE.

>> TRAVIS IS A BIG FAN OF PICKLEBALL. >> WHOMP, WHOMP.

>> WHAT I WOULD ASK COUNCIL, IF STACH SPENT TIME WORKING TO CONDUCT AUDIT OF WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS TO THE -- TO UNDERSTAND EXTEND OF NON HISTORICAL CLIENT, NOT BLAMING FAULT HISTORICAL NON COMPLIANCE, TRY TO UNDERSTAND AND CREATE A STRUCTURE WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE QUANTITY RESERVATIONS OF WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS, ALSO ALLOWED FOR REASONABLE GROWTH RATES. TRENDING GROWTH RATES FOR THOSE WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS.

LOOK AT WHAT TAKE OR PAY MODELS MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR WATER SUPPLY.

BRING BACK A PROGRAM THAT WOULD SHOWS THIS IS WHAT A CONTRACT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

THIS IS A PHILOSOPHY WE WOULD OPERATE. HAVE COUNCIL BLESS THAT CONCEPT AND TAKE THAT TO OUR WHOLESALE WATER CUSTOMERS AND HAVE STAKEHOLDER CUSTOMERS IS THAT A

WAY FORWARD Y'ALL MIGHT SUPPORT? >> YES. >> YES, I WOULD ECHO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER BEARD SAID, IT IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER. WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF GROWTH

AND DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US. >> WE'LL DO SO.

>> THANK YOU. >> RODNEY? >> THANKS FOR BRINGING SUCH AN

EASY PROBLEM TO FIX. >> SURE. >> WE REALIZE THIS IS GOING TO TAKE CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT. WE APPRECIATE RODNEY, ALL YOUR EFFORTS WITH THIS PRESENTATION.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

ROBERT. WE APPRECIATE THE STAFF, EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE.

IT IS NOW 10:38 WE WILL RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY SECTION 551.071, 072. 073. 074 PERSONNEL MATTERS, SECTION

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551.076 DELIBERATIONS ON SECURITY DEVICES. AND SECTION

>> IT IS NOW 12:18 P.M. RECONVENE OPEN SESSION. NO VOTES ARE ACTIONS TAKEN.

[16. Oral Resolution: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Approving the Annual Evaluation of the City Manager]

ITEM 16 EVALUATION OF CITY MANAGER. ROBERT VERY PROUD OF YOUR PERFORMANCE. ANY SALARY ADJUSTMENTS ON FILE OCTOBER 1.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING CITY FURTHER. >> AT THIS TIME ANYONE THAT WANT TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FRORT.

I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER BEARD SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MCALISTER. FURTHER DISCUSSION, READY TO VOTE.

BEARD YES. REGAN YES. YAT YAT YES.

MCALISTER YES. CRAVER YES. PRICE YES.

[17. Oral Resolution: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Approving the Annual Evaluation of the City Attorney]

HURT YES. >> ITEM 17, WE HAVE THE EVALUATION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, STANLEY, VERY HAPPY WITH YOUR PERFORMANCE. ANY SALARY ADJUSTMENTS ON FILE OCTOBER 1ST. AT THIS TIME I OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM. COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NO ONE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

ENTERTAIN MOTION AND SECOND. >> SO MOVED. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CRAVER. SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER REGAN. FURTHER.

>> CRAVER YES. PRICE YES. BEARD YES.

REGAN YES. YAITS YATES YES. HURT YES.

>> NOW 12:19 P.M. THIS M

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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