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ABILENE LANDMARKS COMMISSION. WE WOULD LIKE TO INFORM EVERYONE THAT THIS COMMISSION MEETS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION SET FORTH BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND CODE. THIS IS A RECOMMENDING COMMISSION, ALL FINAL CUT -- DECISIONS MADE BY THE COUNCIL OR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE REQUEST , OR APPROVAL OR DENIAL BY COMMISSION. OUR OVERALL PURPOSE IS TO ADMINISTER THE PROVISIONS OF CITY CODE FOR THE PROTECTION AND PRESERVATION OF STRUCTURES AND LANDS DEEMED BY THE COMMUNITY TO BE OF UNIQUE HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURAL OR CULTURAL VALUE . THE FIRST THING WE ARE GOING TO DO AT THIS MEETING IS TO INTRODUCE ALL OF THE MEMBERS BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN APPOINTED TO THE COMMISSION IF WE CAN START ON
THIS END. >> MY NAME IS BRANDON YOUNG , I AM NEW. TODAY IS THE FIRST MEETING, I'M AN ARCHITECT AT A
PARK HERE IN ABILENE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, MY NAME IS JASON GARRETT. I'M ALSO NEW, IN THE GM FOR A HOME IMPROVEMENT MATERIALS INDUSTRY, THAT IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND, BEEN IN ABILENE FOR 2 1/2 YEARS, LOVE OUR
COMMUNITY. >> I'M A PROPERTY MANAGER FOR SELDEN COMMUNITIES, AND I'M NEW.
>> I AM PEBBLES LEE, I HAVE BEEN IN ABILENE ALMOST 30 YEARS, ONE OF MY PASSIONS IS PRESERVATION'S, I'VE DONE A LOT OF VOLUNTEER WORK THROUGH THE YEARS FOR PRESERVATION ORGANIZATIONS IN ABILENE. I HAVE WORKED 21 YEARS IN THE BIOLOGY DEPARTMENT AT ECU THOUGH, THAT IS MY PAID JOB.
>> STEVE BUTMAN, MY FAMILY PREDATES ABILENE . BACK TO YOU.
FOLLOW. >> MY NAME IS TAMMY KOESTER, I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE, BEEN IN ABILENE SIX YEARS, I LOVE ABILENE. I NEVER LEFT, I AM A REAL ESTATE BROKER. I HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PROPERTY HERE IN ABILENE.
>> I AM MEGAN BREAST, I AM A REALTOR . I'VE BEEN A REALTOR FOR 30 YEARS, I AM A MAMA OF THREE. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
>> I'M ALSO STAFF, I AM KELLEY MESSER IN THE CITY'S
ATTORNEYS OFFICE. >> THE FIRST THING WE ARE GOING TO DO IS TO OPEN THE PUBLIC -- FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IF THERE IS ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE MINUTES WE WILL PASS OR ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME SPEAK AT THIS MOMENT? YOU ALSO GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK LATER ON EACH ITEM. OKAY? SEEING THAT
[1. Minutes: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Minutes from the Regular Meeting Held on October 24, 2023]
THERE IS NO ONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE THE MINUTES , DID ANYONE GET TO LOOK AT THEMINUTES. STEVE, DID YOU? >> THERE'S NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE HERE. I HAVE READ THE MINUTES.
>> DID ANYONE SEE ANY FLAWS IN THE MINUTES CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A -- DO WE DO INDIVIDUALLY OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST SAY ALL OF
THOSE IN FAVOR? >> I WILL DO A VOICE VOTE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO APPROVE MINUTES? ANYONE OPPOSE? THE
[2. CA-2024-01: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request for Certificate of Appropriateness to Install One Wall Sign on the Front of the Chapman Building located at 826 North 3rd Street. (Mason Teegardin)]
MINUTES APPROVAL PASSES, THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS CA-2024-01 , RECEIVER REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR SECURITY AT OLYMPIC --[00:05:01]
CERTIFICATE TO INSTALL A WALL SIGN ON THE FRONT OF THE CHAPMAN BUILDING LOCATED AT 826 NORTH THIRD STREET, WE WILLHAVE A STAFF REPORT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS MASON TEEGARDIN. A PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE, I AM PRESENTING CA-2024-01. THE OWNER IS HVC AND REM LLC. THE OWNER IS JERRY MASH, THE REQUEST IS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO INSTALL ONE WALL SIGN ON THE FRONT OF THE CHAPMAN BUILDING AT 826 NORTH THIRD STREET. THE CHAPMAN BUILDING IS A ONE-STORY FOUR BAY GRAY COMMERCIAL BUILDING, EACH DIVIDED BY BUILT-IN COLONS, FEATURES A CAST STONE TOP WITH LIGHTER COLORED BRICKS FORMING A RECTANGLE TO PLACE THE NAME OF THE BUSINESSES. THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1921, THE EXISTING SIGNS HAVE LIGHT WITH INDIVIDUAL LETTERS. HERE WE HAVE THE LOCATION MAP. WE HAVE AN AERIAL MAP. ZONING MAP IS CV WHICH IS CENTRAL BUSINESS. HERE ARE A COUPLE OF PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. WE INCLUDED A PHOTO OF THE EXISTING SIGNAGE FOR THE CHAPMAN'S . THIS IS THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE OPTION, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED TWO BUT THIS WAS OPTION ONE. HERE IS OPTION TWO. STAFF REVIEWED THIS PURSUANT TO THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR'S STANDARDS FOR THE REHABILITATION OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS APPROVAL OF A CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS IS APPROVED, THE WORK SHALL COMMENCE AND SIX MONTHS OF APPROVAL OF THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION. IF THE WORK DOES NOT COMMENCE WITHIN SIX MONTHS, THE APPROVAL OF THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS SHALL EXPIRE, THE APPLICANT MAY REQUEST AN EXTENSION PROVIDING A COMPLETE APPLICATION FOR A REQUEST FOR THE EXTENSION IS COMMITTED -- SUBMITTED 30 DAYS BEFORE IT EXPIRES. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THEY MOUNT THAT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE MOUNTED IN THE BORDER ONLY, NOT TO DRIP -- DRILL IN THE BRICK?
>> I DO BELIEVE THEY ARE HERE, THEY CAN ANSWER THAT. ANY
QUESTIONS? >> WE HAVE A QUESTION. WE HAVE BEEN SHOWN TWO OPTIONS. I'M GUESSING I'M CURIOUS, IS THAT FOR US TO SELECT FROM OR AS THEY PREFERENCE FOR THE EVAN
CLOSKY >> THE APPLICANT PROPOSED OPTION ONE IS THE MAIN OPTION, AND A SECONDARY OPTION IN CASE Y'ALL WERE NOT OKAY WITH OPTION ONE.
I'M OVERSTATING THIS BUT FIRST OPTION PROPOSING THE BLACK LETTERS INSIDE THE RECTANGLE, THE SECOND ONE IS A GRAYISH COLOR THAT IS EXTENDING OVER THE RECTANGULAR BORDER. IS THAT RIGHT? SCALE AND EVERYTHING IS ACCURATE.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THE SCALE IS ACCURATE, WE CAN ASK. I WAS GOING TO SAY, ELIMINATING NOT A POSSIBILITY OF DOING SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TOUCH THE BRICK THAT CAN JUST BE ON THE CORNERS THERE THAT'S SEE-THROUGH TRANSPARENT LIKE THE LETTERS -- SO IT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING ON THE BUILDING BESIDES BESIDES MAYBE BEING BORDERED IN ON THE SIDES AS OPPOSED TO GOING ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF THAT BLOCK.
INDIVIDUALLY. >> I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
THE APPLICANTS HERE, WE CAN TALK WITH THEM IN JUST A MINUTE . COME TO THE PODIUM. IS THERE ANY OTHER GENERAL QUESTIONS FOR MASON ? SOME SPECIFIC THINGS WE MAY HAVE TO ASK THE APPLICANT. MASON WILL CLOSE THE STAFF REPORT AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, COMMENTS STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
OFFICE IS 2500 SOUTH WILLIS. THESE PROPOSALS WERE PREPARED BY A SIGN COMPANY, WE WILL HAVE IT PROFESSIONALLY
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INSTALLED SO IT WILL STAY UP. BECAUSE IT IS INDIVIDUAL LETTERS , EACH LETTER WOULD HAVE TO BE ATTACHED OR THEY WILL FALL OFF. THEY HAVE TO BE ATTACHED, I WANTED TO LOOK GOOD, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE SIGNS THAT WERE ON THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR. THIS PROPERTY BELONGS TO DAVID, HE'S HERE TOO, THIS IS THE BAY, WANTING TO PUT UP SIGNAGE TO TRY TO BE APPROPRIATE IN SIMILAR TO WHAT IS OVER THERE.BEST. WHATEVER WORKS FOR THE COMMISSION, I THINK THEY ARE VERY TASTEFUL AND THEY FILL WELL INTO THAT, THEY MAKE NO CHANGES OTHER THAN WHEN THEY ARE MOUNTED IN THE MORE TO THE
RIPPLE -- BUILDING ITSELF. >> CAN WE SEE THE NEXT OPTIONS?
LOOKING FOR A WAY -- >> TIM'S SIGN IS NEXT-DOOR SIMILAR TO THE LIGHT COLOR. THE WHITE SIGN. INDIVIDUAL LETTERS MOUNTED TO THE -- FROM THE BUILDING.
>> DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE THAT SHOWS THE FULL ENTIRETY OF THE BUILDING SO THAT WE CAN COMPARE?
>> THEY ONLY -- WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE THAT HAS THE EMPTY SPACE . THERE IS WHAT IS THERE, THERE'S KIND OF AN OLD -- FASHIONED FONT. IT IS LIKE COLORED.
>> THE NEXT DOOR TO US, THIS BUILDING IF YOU ARE FACING INTO THE RIGHT , THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE LEFT OF US , RON
VOCALS BUILDING. >> WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT, YES. THOSE ARE MORE MODERN. MORE MODERN SIGNAGE RIGHT
THERE. >> THAT'S NOT LIKE WHAT I WAS SAYING WITH WHAT WE GOT GOING ON, THEY ARE PULLED OUT A LITTLE BIT , THERE ARE LETTERS ON THEM, YOU TAKE THEM OFF WHEN NEW ONES COME IN , YOU ARE NOT DAMAGING BY TAKING THEM OFF AND PUTTING THEM BACK ON YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WAS --
>> THEY HAVE TO BE ATTACHED, THEY ARE INDIVIDUAL LETTERS WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR OR ALMOST IDENTICAL TO SIGNS -- WE WANTED TO KEEP THE SAME STYLE ACROSS THERE, THEY LOOK THE
SAME. >> I DON'T SEE THE ATTACHING EACH ONE -- WE CAN ALWAYS FIX THOSE OF SOMEBODY TAKES THEM DOWN TO CHANGE TENANTS OR SOMETHING.
>> YES, WHEN YOU APPLY SIGNAGE TO A HISTORIC BUILDING, WE DO
TRY TO PUT THEM IN THE -- >> OBVIOUSLY, IF WE TRY TO -- AS FAR AS INSTALLATION GOES, CONSTRUCTION, UNDERSTAND THAT WE TRY TO DRILL IN FOR IT, IT'S A LOT HARDER THAN DRILLING -- THEY ARE USING PROFESSIONAL COVERINGS, SHOULD
BE -- APPROPRIATE. >> WITH THE SIGNAGE BE THE SAME COLOR AS THE REST ON THE BUILDING, WOULD IT BE A
DIFFERENT FONT QUITE A >> THIS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS OUR TENANT 'S, THAT'S THEIR LOGO. THIS FONT IS HOW THEY ADVERTISE SO THEY WANTED TO BE THE SAME , HAVE THE SAME FONT, THE SAME LOOK AS THEY ARE ADVERTISING. THEY ARE AN ADVERTISING COMPANY THAT'S WHAT THEY DO, A SPECIALTY ADVERTISING COMPANY AND THEY WANT CONSISTENCY IN THEIR
IMAGE. >> MAKES SENSE. I AM JUST CURIOUS HOW THE OTHER SIGNS ARE MOUNTED, THIS ONE LOOKS LIKE THERE IS EVIDENCE OF PREVIOUS SIGNS BEING MOUNTED, WAS IT
SOME SORT OF -- >> FIXTURE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT
WAS -- >> TIM HAS A LONGER HISTORY
WITH THE BUILDING. >> I'M SURE THERE'S LOTS OF SIGNS. YOU CAN SEE EVIDENCE OF THAT ON THE FACE OF THE BRICK, I'M JUST CURIOUS MORE THAN ANYTHING.
>> WHICH SIGN ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
>> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS .
>> MY NAME IS TIM DELA VEGA, MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS A TWO THIRD -- 823 NORTH THIRD STREET. THE -- WHICH SIGN WERE YOU
REFERRING TO? >> THE ONES YOU ARE LOOKING AT, I'M SURE THE ONE HERE AT ONE TIME WAS MOUNTED IN A SIMILAR FASHION. AS LONG AS I HAVE OWNED THE BUILDING AND BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ASSIGNED . I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT, I CAN SPEAK TO THE ONES ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE CHAPMAN AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY AFFIXED WITH
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SILICONE. THEY ARE NOT IN THE BRICK AT ALL, OR THE MORTAR.THAT WILL PEEL OFF OVER TIME. I'M NOT SURE -- WE ALSO DO SIGNS , WE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT CREATED THAT SIGN, I CANNOT SPEAK TO OTHER PLANNING ON INSTALLING THAT, I'M SURE THEY CAN DO SOMETHING SIMILAR AND WE CANNOT LET THIS DIRECT
>> I THINK THAT IS POSSIBLE TOO. RON VOGELS , I KNEW THAT THEY WERE NOT AS CONCERNED -- THE BUILDING DOES NOT HAVE THE HISTORICAL INCLINATIONS, I DON'T THINK HE WAS CONCERNED
ABOUT -- >> HAVE YOU HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH YOUR SILICONE ADHERED LETTERS COMING UP?
>> NO. I BOUGHT THE BUSINESS 12 YEARS AGO AND PART OF IT HAD BEEN PUTTING THAT UP. I HOPE PUT UP THE ONE ON THE RIGHT THAT SAYS H.V. CHAPMAN & SONS. THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 12 YEARS, I KNOW IT WILL COME OFF . IT IS VERY SECURE.
>> I SUSPECT THAT IS HOW THEY HAD THE SIGN ON THE LEFT , THE SIGN IN QUESTION BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE ARE ALMOST
ADHESIVE DOTS . >> IF THE TENANT COULD USE THE SAME FONT, WE COULD DO THE SAME THING TIM DID. I DON'T
THINK ANYBODY WOULD CARE. >> I DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH
THE FONT CHANGING. >> PERSONALLY, I DON'T MIND EITHER ONE. I LIKE THE BLACK PHOTO A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE IT FITS WITHIN THE LITTLE RECTANGLE THERE BETTER.
>> WE CAN DO EITHER CUTTER -- COLOR AND TOLD THE TENANT TO FIT IT IN , THE SIZE INTO THE BRICK.
>> WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A WAY AS I SEE ON THIS ON THE BLACK, THE ABILITY DOES NOT SHOW UP VERY WELL. THE BRAND SHOWS UP GOOD SO, SO, JUST FROM THAT OKAY NOW, CAN WE SEE THE NEXT SLIDE OF THE, SEE THE GRAY SHOWS UP A LITTLE BIT BETTER, SO MY SUGGESTION MIGHT BE TO CONSIDER THE SMALLER LETTERING BUT IN THE GRAY COLOR, THAT SHOWS UP .
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE FUN WITH THE TENANT, THEY HAVE OPERATED THERE WITH THAT ANY SIGNS FOR A GOOD LONG TIME.
>> EITHER ONE. THEY CHANGE THEIR NAME, NOW THEY WANT A
SIGN. >> WE MAY LEAVE IT UP TO Y'ALL TO DECIDE, THAT IS PRETTY TELLING THAT IT IS JUST HARD TO SEE THE OTHER HALF OF THE BLACK AND IT IS --
>> THE BLACK IS WASHED OUT PERSONALLY, I LIKE THE GRAY BUT IN OPTION ONE. I THINK IT STAYS WITHIN THE THE BRICK . I ALSO THINK IT TIES INTO THE OTHER TWO SIGNS PERSONALLY. I THINK THAT LACK, YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE -- BLACK YOU WILL GET WASHED OUT FROM A DISTANCE. IT STARTS TO -- IT STARTS TO BLEND IN AND THEN GOD FOR BID THAT FADES WITH HEAT AND THE SUN.
>> IF YOU GUYS ARE MORE COMFORTABLE, WE WILL TELL THEM THEY CAN USE A LIGHTER COLOR TO SHRINK THE SIZE A LITTLE BIT SO THAT IT IS MORE INSIDE THE BORDER THERE. IF IT IS OKAY, WE WILL HAVE THEM MOUNTED WITH SILICONE .
>> WOULD THEY BE OPEN TO WHITE? WHITE WOULD READ BETTER IT WOULD FIT BETTER WITH THE OTHER SIGNS ON THE BUILDING
CURRENTLY. >> THEY ARE OPEN TO WHAT WE
TOLD HIM. >> LET'S SEE THE OTHER SLIDE OF THE ELLIPSE IS YEAH. IS THAT WHITE OR PURE WHITE, OR A
CREAM? >> MORBID GREEN COLOR, YOU NOTICE THAT CREAM COLOR IS NOT WHITE ON THE ACTUAL -- THE LETTERS ARE MORE WITH THAT COLOR THERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS AN ORIGINAL COACH, THAT'S BEEN -- I'M SURE I THINK I REMEMBER WHEN WE APPROVE THAT SIGN. IT'S BEEN
A WHILE BUT -- >> BETTER UNIFORMITY IF IT WAS ALL THE SAME COLOR, NOT SO MUCH THE FONT OR THINGS LIKE THAT, UNIFORMITY OF THE BUILDING TO KEEP THE PRESERVATION.
>> I THINK -- HERE'S THE LANDLORD, HE CAN PICK. OUR TENANT IS OPEN TO WHATEVER YOU GUYS APPROVE. THAT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING. >> SHE HAD TO BE OUT OF TOWN
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TODAY . >> I AM MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE LETTER IN THE FITS WITHIN THE RECTANGLE AND JUST FOR THE SAKE , SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THE SIGNAGE I THINK EITHER TO GO WITH THE GRAY OR CREAM WOULD BE FINE.
>> I THINK THAT GRAY, I THINK THAT'S THE GRAPHIC DESIGNERS RENDERING. THAT CAN BE SIZED WHATEVER, I AGREE IT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN THE -- IT WOULD LOOK BETTER. WE WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> CAN ASK YOU GUYS A QUESTION? AT SOME POINT --
>> NOT IF IT IS NOT RELATED TO THE ITEM. YOU MIGHT CATCH A
COMMISSIONER AFTER A MEETING. >> IF YOU HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION. STAY UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING.
>> ARE THERE ANY DETRIMENTAL THINGS ABOUT SIGNAGE --
>> I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK THAT IS SAFE.
>> THERE IS DISCOLORATION, THAT COULD HAPPEN OR -- YOU PUT A SIGN UP , YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME FADING A CONSISTENT, IT WILL BLOCK UV AND ALL OF THAT.
>> THERE IS A PAGE FOR DISCUSSION. IS THE REWARD -- IS ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WANTING TO SPEAK UP? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOW THE COMMISSION CAN DISCUSS ITEM.
WILL GET TO THE -- >> I THINK WITH THE SILICON , THERE MIGHT BE RESIDUE IF WE GO THERE AND SCRAPE IT OFF.
>> IT WILL BE VERY MINIMAL. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE BUILDING MAYBE THEN EVEN DRILLING IN THE BORDER. SOME BOREHOLES ARE PUNCTURING IN, THAT IS DAMAGING --
>> SILICONE WILL NOT DO ANY LONG-TERM DAMAGE, THERE MAY BE FADING BUT YOU CAN REMOVE THAT. IF WE CAN AVOID DRILLING INTO IT AT ALL COSTS, THAT IS PROBABLY -- THE WAY I WOULD GO.
>> THERE IS AT LEAST SOME UNIFORM TO IT , YOU ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE LETTERING, THE FONT BUT JUST TO HAVE HAD A QUICK GLANCE, IT IS NOT , NOT THAT IT DOESN'T STAND OUT. IT DOESN'T STAND OUT IN A NEGATIVE WAY.
>> OKAY, WE NEED A MOTION. MAYBE THE SIZE IN THE MOTION, WE NEED TO MENTION THE SIZE, THE COLOR, AND THE WAY IT IS ADHERED IF ANYONE IS VERY -- WANTS THAT DONE VERY SPECIFICALLY. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE SIGNAGE AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE FOLLOWING , THE SIZES WITHIN THE CREAM-COLORED CORRECT FRAME. THE COLOR MATCHES THE EXISTING SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING, THE ATTACHMENT IS A NONPERMANENT ATTACHMENT SUCH AS THE LOOK ON -- SILICONE.
>> DISSECTION -- SECOND THAT MOTION.
>> I SECOND THAT MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM, CONTINGENT UPON THE SIZE STAYING WITHIN THE FRAME, THE COLOR SHOULD MATCH THE OTHER SIGNS AND THE ATTACHMENT SHOULD THE SILICONE. MR. YOUNG ?
>> MR. BUTMAN? >> MS. KOESTER ?
>> MRS. BREAST? AND MRS. LEE ? MOTION CARRIES.
>> WE HAVE NO OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.