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RIGHT. DONTE SENT OUT THE MARCH 20TH MEETING MINUTES TO
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ALL OF US . CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES?>> LET ME CITY. -- C. >> ALL IN FAVOR ? AYE
[3. Airport Management Reports]
>> ALL OPPOSED? >> OKAY. WE WANT THE STATISTICAL REPORTS. MARCH 'S NUMBERS ? STEVE, SECOND?
>> SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE .
>> ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. WE WANT THE STATISTICAL REPORTS. THAT
WOULD BE GREAT. >> MARCH , MARCH'S NUMBERS LOOKED REALLY GOOD, AGAIN, CONTINUING THE TREND WE HAVE SEEN THIS YEAR. SO MARCH WAS UP 27%, UP 27% , THE REVENUE AND PAYMENTS ALL TOTAL. FOR THE MONTH. FOR THE YEAR, ALL TOTAL, WE ARE ABOUT 35% OVER 2023. VERY NICE NUMBERS. THAT IS A MONTH THAT IS TYPICALLY SLOW. THAT IS VERY POSITIVE GOING INTO THE SPRING WHEN THINGS START KICKING IN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER GEAR . ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY WATCH IS THE LOAD FACTOR. WE HAVE MORE SEATS IN OUR MARKET THAN WE HAVE EVER HAD. SO WE ARE FILLING THOSE UP, MARCH, AGAIN, BEING A LOWER ACTIVITY MONTH WAS AT 67%. WE HAVE BEEN SEEING 74 TO 77% SINCE WE HAVE HAD THE FIVE DEPARTURES A DAY ON THE INAUDIBLE ] . THE 67% IS NOT BAD, CONSIDERING THE TIME PERIOD. I AM STILL OPTIMISTIC AND I AM PLEASED WITH THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THOSE SEATS SOLD, BUT THAT IS NOT BAD, AGAIN, FOR THAT TIME OF YEAR. WITH THAT, WE HAVE THE TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT. PARKING LOT REVENUES ARE UP ALMOST 33% FOR THE YEAR. THAT IS, AGAIN, WITH THE INCREASE INITIATED OCTOBER 1 IN THE PARKING RATES. BUT THE PARKING LOT IS PRETTY DOGGONE FULL MOST OF THE TIME. WE ARE UP ABOUT 53.4% FOR THE YEAR OVER LAST YEAR. REALLY GOOD REVENUE NUMBERS ON THE PARKING LOT. THE CAR RENTAL REVENUES, THEY LOOK EVEN BETTER NOW BECAUSE OF THE ADDITION OF HERTZ .
HOWEVER, THEY GOT STARTED LATE FEBRUARY , I THINK, THEY ARE STARTING TO GET THEIR FEET UNDER THEM WITH THE REVENUE ABOUT 11, ALMOST $12,000 FOR MARCH. BUT THEY SEEM TO BE DOING WELL. AGAIN, OUR NUMBERS TOTAL ARE UP 45.8% FOR THE YEAR. THAT 48 , HERE IS WHERE, OKAY, SO MARCH , AIRLINES , AIRLINE NUMBERS ARE REPORTING IN MARCH. CAR RENTAL NUMBERS ARE REPORTING FOR FEBRUARY BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO MONTHS BEHIND. THAT IS WHY, YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHY THAT LATE START IN FEBRUARY FOR HERTZ IS ONLY $12,000. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR ON THAT . MARCH, THE NEXT REPORT NEXT MONTH SHOULD BE BETTER FOR HERTZ, ESPECIALLY. LET'S SEE . LOOKING, REAL QUICKLY, AT THE PRICING REPORT, UM, WE STILL, WE THINK IT IS STILL HIGH . 14 DAYS OUT , 455 AVERAGE . YOU ARE LOOKING AT 30 DAYS OUT, THERE IS LESS
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SEPARATION BETWEEN US AND MIDLAND AT 465 AND 452, RESPECTIVELY. THAT IS STILL MUCH HIGHER THAN DFW. WE HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH AMERICAN RECENTLY, TRYING TO GET THEM TO LOOK AT ART FAIRS AND WE ARE JUST NOT SEEING THINGS BEING DONE ON THAT RECENTLY. WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT. REGULATORY AND LEGISLATIVE ISSUES, WE HAVE, REALLY, THE ONLY THING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW IS FAA REAUTHORIZATION. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS FULLY FUNDED THROUGH THE END OF FY24. ALL OF THE RESOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED FOR THE REST OF THE FISCAL YEAR FUNDED. NOW, THE ONLY ACTION WE ARE REALLY WAITING ON IS FAA REAUTHORIZATION, THE MECHANISM THAT RE-AUTHORIZES THE OPERATIONS . IT DOES NOT HAVE A DRAMATIC AFFECT ON US , LIKE THE BUDGET DID , BUT, FAA PASS TO, IN THE TIME IT HAS FROM NOW AND MAY 10TH, I THINK IS THE END OF THAT AUTHORIZATION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET OUT THE REMAINDER OF THEIR FY24 PROGRAM GRANTS IN ORDER FOR THOSE TO BE CAUGHT UP IN THE NEXT REAUTHORIZATION OR THE CONTINUATION , OR IF, FOR SOME REASON WE DID NOT GET AUTHORIZE. I DO NOT ANTICIPATE THAT HEARING FROM CAPITOL HILL IS THAT THE REAUTHORIZATION LANGUAGE IS JUST ABOUT AGREED TO. WE THINK IT WILL PASS BY MAY 10TH. AS EVERYTHING ELSE DOES, IT WILL COME DOWN TO THE WIRE. THAT WEEK OF THE 10TH WE WILL SEE ACTION BY THE SENATE.EITHER PASS WITH THE HOUSE HAS SENT THEM OR KIND OF MODIFY THE LANGUAGE. CURRENT PROJECTS, WE WILL TALK ABOUT TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS, ABOUT THE PREVIOUS TERMINAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WE DID, WE FINALIZED THAT RIGHT OVER THANKSGIVING OF LAST YEAR. WE GET GOOD COMMENTS ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THAT. THE RESTROOMS, STILL REAL PROUD OF THE RESTROOMS .
>> YES. >> WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE PLUMBING AND THAT HAS BEEN , THE TWO ISSUES WE HAVE HAD SO FAR HAVE BEEN HANDLED QUICKLY BY THE CONTRACTOR SO WE APPRECIATE THEM JUMPING ON THAT. WE ARE TRYING, HOPEFULLY, WE WILL NEVER KNOW. NOW THE AIRCRAFT PROJECT, , WE ARE AT 60% DESIGN. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE MET SINCE . OUR ENGINEERS , CITY MANAGER, GENERAL MANAGER, FEL AND MYSELF WILL GO TO COLOR -- CALIFORNIA TO LOOK AT THE TINKER BASE AT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WITH THE COOPERATION OF THE U. S. FOREST SERVICE. IT IS A LARGE BASE. THEY CAN HANDLE, I THINK THEY HAVE SEVEN PITS TO RESUPPLY THOSE AIRCRAFT. IT IS A LARGE BASE. IT IS DESIGNED FOR LARGER AIRCRAFT. THAT IS PROBABLY THE ONE THAT THE TEXAS FOREST SERVICE GUYS WANT US TO SEE HOW IT OPERATES. WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD ADVICE OUT OF THAT.
THINGS WE SHOULD DO, THINGS WE SHOULD NOT DO. WE ASKED BOTH THOSE QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF THERE. THAT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING FOR US. FUEL FARM LOCATION, WE WILL ADDRESS THAT IN THE NUMBER 5 ISSUE BEFORE YOU LATER. I WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AND WE PUT THIS ONE ON HOLD FOR THE CAR RENTAL QUICK TURN FACILITY . WE DO HAVE THEM IN THE AIRPORT NOW PROBABLY EARLY THIS SUMMER WE WILL START WORKING ON THAT AGAIN AND PICK UP THAT PROCESS. GET A PRODUCT DESIGN THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYONE AND LOOKS AT THE FUTURE NEEDS, THE FUTURE NEEDS BEING WE WOULD HAVE TO DESIGN FOR ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS, ELECTRIC VEHICLES, EVS. THAT HAS EVEN CHANGED OVER THE LAST YEAR.
HERTZ WAS ALL IN ON ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THAT TIME THEY
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HAVE REVERSED COURSE . I THINK THEY ARE STILL IN NEED FOR SOME CHARGING AT THE SERVICE CENTER, PROBABLY AS WELL FOR ALL THREE COMPANIES. WE WENT TO INCLUDE THE CAPABILITY IN THE SERVICE CENTER, FOR SURE. WE ARE DOING WELL ON THE OUTSTANDING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS. AT THE AIRPORT, I THINK EVERYTHING IS PRETTY MUCH UP TO DATE. OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE INSIDE ESCALATORS WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOUCH. IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON THE TRAJECTORY OF THIS AIRPORT, THE TERMINAL PROJECT AND THE TIMING THAT WE SEE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. WHEN AND IF WE WILL DO THE PROJECT , AS TO WHETHER WE GO IN AND REBUILD INSIDE ESCALATORS. WE ARE GOING THROUGH, FAA PART 139 ANNUAL INSPECTION IS RIGHT NOW THAT STARTED YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. I WAS OUT ON THE FIELD WITH THEM YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND LAST NIGHT. EVEN EARLIER TODAY. SO WERE DOING WELL. WILL HAVE OUR OUTBREAK TOMORROW MORNING. WE WILL SEE ULTIMATELY HOW WE DID. STAFF HAS DONE A GOOD JOB GETTING PREPARED. WE KIND OF TAKE THE PHILOSOPHY THAT THE AIRPORT IS ALWAYS READY FOR ANY INSPECTION. THE FAA CAN SHOW UP ANY TIME. I DON'T WANT MY STAFF BREAKING THEIR BACKS TWO WEEKS BEFORE, THE WEEK BEFORE AN FAA INSPECTOR GETS HERE. WE SHOULD BE MAINTAINING THE AIRPORT AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PERFECT WHEN THEY GET HERE. IT IS ALWAYS A WORK IN PROGRESS. YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE LIGHTS LIT, IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE. WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF LIGHTS. DON'T SWEAT THAT AT ALL. I'VE TRIED TO TEACH MY STAFF THAT, IT COMES AFTER BEING A DIRECTOR ALMOST 28 YEARS. WE LEARN THOSE THINGS.YOU WANT YOUR STAFF TO STRIVE TO HAVE AN EXCELLENT AIRFIELD EVERY DAY. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. OPERATIONS EVENTS, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DIVERSIONS, NO REAL DIVERSIONS OF THE LAST MONTH. THE DYESS COLLABORATION, THAT IS THE SHADOWING PROGRAM WITH THE DYESS AIRFIELD MANAGEMENT GROUP . THEY GO ON INSPECTIONS WITH THE AIRPORT STAFF . IT GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE A CIVILIAN AIRPORT AND WHAT WE DO DIFFERENTLY IN THE SAME AS WHAT THEY DO. WE WILL START THAT, I THINK THAT STARTS BACK UP NEXT TUESDAY . WE WILL HAVE SOMEBODY COME OUT AND SPEND THE DAY. WE WILL HAVE ONE PER WEEK DURING THE MONTH OF MAY. RESTAURANT AND VENDING SERVICES, THINGS HAVE BEEN QUIET WITH THE RESTAURANT. WE WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH THAT AND TALK TO THEM AND SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT. I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. THE VERA DAWN WALKER EXHIBIT , THAT EVEN HIS MARCH 15TH. JASON PUT IT TOGETHER. I THINK IT WAS WILL RECEIVED. IT LOOKS GOOD OUT THERE. THE PICTURES ALL OF THE AIRPORT NOW ARE ARCHIVAL PICTURES OF VERA DAWN WALKER, A MILLIONAIRE POOL -- AMELIA EARHART AND CHARLES LINDBERGH WHEN HE CAME TO TRAVELING, AS WELL AS MR. BARRY WHO WAS THE FIRST AIRPORT MANAGER HERE IN ABILENE . THERE ARE OTHER OLD PHOTOGRAPHS. GIVES A NICE LOOK TO THE HISTORY WHICH I ALWAYS LIKE TO DO IN THE TERMINAL. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE FAMILY OF VERA DAWN WALKER TO HAVE HER ARTIFACTS ON DISPLAY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. IT COULD GO LONGER THAN THAT, TOO. IT WILL BE UP TO THEM IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT. I WENT TO RECOGNIZE, ALSO, A CPA IN TOWN, SHE STEPPED UP AND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT EXHIBIT. I MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE HER WILLINGNESS TO DO THAT. I WENT TO RECOGNIZE HER . THAT IS FOR THE THINGS WE HAVE IN
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THE TERMINAL AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA AND THINGS THAT HAVE GONE OUT. A SHOUT OUT TO HER. SHE IS VERY GENEROUS AND WANTED TO SEE THIS PROJECT. I APPRECIATE HER ON THAT. REALLY NOT A LOT ON THEIR SERVICE AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT UPDATES. YOU KNOW, WE DID HIRE SOMEBODY . WE CONNECTED AND DID INTERVIEWS THE WEEK BEFORE LAST. WE HAVE SOMEONE STARTING APRIL 30TH, NEXT TUESDAY. IT IS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN ABILENE FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS OR SO. THEY WILL BE THE NEW MARKETING/DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. >> HOW DO YOU SPELL HER NAME?
>> IT IS SMYSER. I HAVE TALKED WITH HER EVERY DAY OVER THE PAST WEEK AND A HALF, SHE IS VERY ENTHUSIASTIC AND READY TO GET STARTED LEARNING THINGS ON THE JOB. I THINK SHE IS GOING TO BE VERY GOOD AND BRING SOME GREAT ENERGY TO THE POSITION.
NOT A WHOLE LOT ON THE AIR SERVICE ISSUES FRONT. THAT HAS BEEN QUIET. I HAVE TALKED WITH OUR AIR SERVICE CONSULTANT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. LET'S SET UP ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE REGIONAL PARTNER TO SEE IF WE CAN KICKSTART SOMETHING AHEAD OF THE CONFERENCE NEXT FALL. WE HAVE THEM IN THE MIND. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THEM IN THE PAST. I WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW THAT DEVELOPS. ON THE ROAD , EXCESS ROAD, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE GRANT FROM DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, THE MONEY IS SECURED. IT IS IN THE BUDGET, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT ON THAT UNTIL WE GET THE PAPERWORK TO AWARD AND TO ACCEPT THE GRANTS. ONCE WE DO THAT, WE CAN KICK OFF THE DESIGN.
ADDITIONALLY, I HAD A MEETING WITH THE BOUYS GROUP FOLKS.
AND THE CITY'S PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOLKS JUST TO BRING THEM TOGETHER. THEY HAD NEVER HAD TO DEAL WITH THE CITY BEFORE. THEY BUILT THEIR PREVIOUS TWO FACILITIES SO THIS WAS A NEW THING FOR THEM SO I GOT THEM IN TOUCH AND WE JUST ALL SAT DOWN AND LAID OUT WHAT THOSE STEPS NEED TO BE
[5. Discussion and Action to Approve a Recommendation to City Council for a Rates and Charges Study and Land Lease Valuation Task Order with Kutchins & Groh.]
AND THE TIME OF THAT. THERE IS STILL TIME FOR THINGS TO GET DONE AND FOR US TO SEE A GROUNDBREAKING MIDSUMMER. SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. THAT IS ALL OF THE REPORTS.>> OKAY. THE COMMITTEE REPORTS? I DON'T KNOW IF WE
HAVE HAD ANY. >> WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY COMMITTEE THIS MONTH . THIS PAST MONTH.
>> SO, ITEM 5, DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A RATES AND CHARGES STUDY AND LAND LEASE VALUATION TASK KUTCHINS & GROH DID OUR FIRST RECENT STUDY IN 2018 AND 2019. THAT IS A LOOK AT OUR EXPENSES AND TRYING TO MATCH REVENUES TO THOSE EXPENSES. WE MADE STRIDES , I MEAN, WE MADE SOME BIG STRIDES IN THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IN, NEW REVENUE WITH THE RATES AND CHARGES STUDY DONE AT THAT TIME . THAT WAS PRE-COVID. THE SAME MODEL, IF WE WERE TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND LOOK AT THE SAME THING AND SAY, LET'S JUST APPLY THIS TO STEP UP THOSE, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT AND NOT VERY ACCURATE TO DO BECAUSE OF THE EXCESSIVE INFLATION WE HAVE HAD OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. SO I ASKED MR.
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KUTCHINS, WHO IS JOINING US THIS AFTERNOON FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, I ASKED HIM TO PUT TOGETHER AN UPDATE TO THIS. IT IS NOT JUST A SIMPLE UPDATE BECAUSE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL NUMBERS , EXPENSES . WE WEREN'T CAPTURING THOSE IN THE PREVIOUS STUDY BUT WE WILL CAPTURE THOSE IN THIS STUDY.ALSO, JUST TRYING TO MAKE SOME SENSE OF WHERE INFLATION HAS LED US AND WHERE WE ARE GOING OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO WE CAN SET THOSE RATES AND LAND LEASES. THAT WILL ALSO HELP US WITH THE LAND LEASE RATES. SO THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT FOR THEM TO DO APPRAISALS , PARTICULAR FOR THE AERONAUTICAL USE LAND , AS WE GET THIS ROAD BUILT AND WE GO OUT AND START TALKING TO PROSPECTS WITH D.C. AWAY ABOUT BRINGING BUSINESSES TO THE AIRPORT, PARTICULARLY THOSE AEROSPACE TYPE COMPANIES, AEROSPACE PROPERTY, AERONAUTICAL TYPE USE PROPERTY IS VALUED DIFFERENTLY THAN JUST COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE IN THE CITY. WE WILL HAVE, THROUGH THIS AGREEMENT, WE WILL HAVE KUTCHINS & GROH, BASICALLY ON-CALL TO USE FOR THOSE SERVICES. IF IT IS JUST A STANDARD COMMERCIAL LEASE OR SOMETHING , YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE IN TOWN . WE MIGHT USE A LOCAL BUSINESS, A LOCAL APPRAISER FOR THAT. I NEED SOMEBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS AIRPORTS, PARTICULARLY WITH THE AEROSPACE AND AERONAUTICAL USE LEASES . THIS AGREEMENT IS A NOT TO EXCEED $50,000 FOR THE RATES AND CHARGES STUDY. I PLUGGED IN 20,000 JUST AS AN OFF-THE-CUFF NUMBER FOR THE ON-CALL APPRAISAL SERVICES.
THE AGREEMENT IS A TASK ORDER UNDER THE MASTER CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH KUTCHINS & GROH. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND COMPETE THIS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE HAD ALREADY DONE THAT FOR THE MASTER CONTRACT BUT THE TASK ORDER, IT WILL BE
SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS. >> WELL, WE HAVE WORKED WITH KUTCHINS & GROH FOR A LONG TIME. I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE NAME AND THE SERVICE THAT WE GET. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT WE RECEIVED . SO, ANY QUESTIONS, SINCE BRAD IS HERE? WELL, LET'S APPROVE KUTCHINS & GROH FOR THE RATES AND CHARGES STUDY. CAN I GET A MOTION?
>> AYE. >> ALL THE POST? METEOROLOGIST NONE. IT PASSES. THIS WILL BE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL TOMORROW.
APPRECIATE THAT. AGAIN, I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE, I DON'T LIKE DOING THAT TO Y'ALL. I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO PASS SOMETHING. I EXPLAINED TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT IF IT DID NOT PASS, I WOULD PULL THAT FROM THE AGENDA. JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME WITH TRIPS AND STUFF COMING UP IN THE NEAR
[7. Discussion and Action to Approve a Recommendation to City Council for Amendment 5 of the Ground Lease with Abilene Aero.]
FUTURE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF TODAY SOTHANK YOU FOR THAT. >> OUR BUSINESS IS UNIQUE PICAYUNE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THAT IS
KUTCHINS & GROH. >> WE FEEL VERY FORTUNATE.
>> ITEM 6, DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR TERMINAL EXPANSION AND
IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS. >> I WANT TO REQUEST WE MOVE ITEM 7 . ONCE WE GET DONE WITH THAT, WE CAN JUST CONCENTRATE
ON NUMBER 6. >> ALL RIGHT. NUMBER 7, DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR AMENDMENT 5 OF THE GROUND LEASE WITH ABILENE
AERO. >> IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, I BROUGHT THIS TO YOU. IT IS TO, IT ENCOMPASSES ALL OF THE GROUND, THE ANCHORS AND THE OTHER HANGERS AND THEN THE FUEL FARM . RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE AN UNDERGROUND FUEL FARM. THEY JUST COMPLETED THE UNDERGROUND FUEL FARM AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ALL VOTED FOR LAST TIME. REALLY, THIS IS JUST AFFIRMING WHAT THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE. I WILL BRING THIS BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL MADE -- MAY 9. WHAT HAPPENED IS, ABILENE AERO , ONCE THE NEW FARM IS IN SERVICE AND CERTIFIED AND RUNNING AND WE KNOW IT IS RELIABLE , HOPEFULLY IN ABOUT A
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MONTH, AND IT SHOULD GO INTO SERVICE WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS . THEY ARE REALLY, REALLY CLOSE. ONCE THEY ARE CONFIDENT IT IS WORKING PROPERLY, THEY WILL ABANDON THE UNDERGROUND FACILITY AND REMOVE THOSE TANKS. THIS AMENDMENT WILL ESSENTIALLY ADD THE NEW AREA BUT TAKE OUT THE OLD AREA IN THE LEASE . IT IS ACTUALLY A NET GAIN TO US, AS FAR AS THE SIZE OF THE LEASED AREA AND SOME REVENUE, BUT NOT BY MUCH.I THINK LETS THEM 1500 PER YEAR. WAS NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS DOES. SINCE IT HAD BEEN SO LONG, I WANTED TO APPROACH YOU GUYS AGAIN WITH THIS. IT REALLY HASN'T CHANGED . I THOUGHT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY OF CHANGING WHEN I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA LAST WEEK, BUT AFTER TALKING WITH THE OWNER OF ABILENE AERO, HE SAID, NO, I AM NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT. WE WILL STAY WITH THIS AS THE SAME BASICALLY AS THE CONCEPT AS A YEAR AGO , JUST OVER A YEAR
AGO. SO THAT IS IT. >> SO THEY HAVE BUILT A NEW,
ABOVEGROUND FUEL FARM? >> YES.
>> AND THEY WILL ABANDON THEIR UNDERGROUND FUEL FARM. THAT LAND, WHERE THAT IS, THAT WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY?
>> YES. >> DO WE KNOW IF THERE IS ANY
ENVIRONMENTAL? >> WHEN THEY REMOVE, THERE IS, SO THAT SITE IS MONITORED RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE PROCEDURES , TESTING PROCEDURES TO MONITOR THEM FOR LEAKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THAN WHEN THEY REMOVE THE TANKS THEY WILL BE TESTING. WE WILL KNOW IF THERE IS ANY KIND OF CONTAMINATION AND WILL IT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF AT THAT TIME.
>> VERY GOOD. >> IS IT ENOUGH PROPERTY TO DO
ANYTHING WITH? >> IN ITSELF, THERE IS REALLY
[6. Discussion and Action to Approve a Recommendation to City Council for Terminal Expansion and Improvements Project.]
NOT A LOT OF PROPERTY. THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN INTERESTED IN PUTTING A SMALL HANGER ON THAT THAT I HAVE TALKED TO BUT WE WILL SEE IF THAT MATERIALIZES.>> OKAY. QUESTIONS? CAN I GET A NOMINATION TO APPROVE THE GROUND LEASE WITH ABILENE AERO?
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. NOW, LET'S GO BACK TO NUMBER 6, THE TERMINAL EXPANSION AM -- AND IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. I ASKED BRAD TO BE HERE FOR THAT. HE HAS, AS PART OF HIS CONTRACT THE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS . HE HELPS US WITH THE CONSULTING SIDE . HE IS HELPING US WITH THE FUNDING SIDE AND JUST KIND OF HELPING KEEP EVERYTHING TOGETHER . THERE ARE A LOT OF BALLS TO JUGGLE WITH THIS PROJECT, IN PARTICULAR. THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON. AND THEN THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN CONTRACT IS WITH PARK HILL.
WE'VE GOT COLLINS ELECTRIC HERE, HE IS THE LEAD ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT. HE HAS BEEN VERY GOOD TO WORK WITH. I THINK WE HAVE REALLY STRETCHED THE CREATIVITY OF HIM AND HIS CREW SO SHOUT OUT TO THEM. THEY HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO GET US TO THIS POINT . THERE IS MORE TO COME. BUT WE ARE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE NEED TO TALK CONCEPT. AS I EXPLAINED IN THE MEMO, WE HAVE, WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST MONTH SO YOU HAVE SEEN THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE NEED TO, WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO JUST GO AHEAD AND COMMIT EITHER NOW OR AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. ULTIMATELY, THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S DECISION, THE TIMING OF IT AND EVEN THE F, BUT THE TIMING AS WELL. THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT , THERE COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY TO DO THIS. BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS.
IT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ORIGINALLY.
IT WAS DIFFERENT FROM THE SCOPE OF WORK, THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY GIVEN THE DESIGN FEE FOR. SO
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WE JUST NEED TO MASSAGE THIS, BUT YOU LOOK AT IT, SEE IF WE ARE ON THE RIGHT COURSE AT THIS POINT. AND HAVE SOMEDISCUSSION, BASICALLY. >> SO CONCEPT 2 IS WHAT WE ARE
>> WE RULED OUT CONCEPT 3, OF GETTING RID OF EVERYTHING IS
STARTING FOR THE BEGINNING. >> YET, BUT THE COST AT $102 MILLION IS PROHIBITIVE . WE ARE TALKING TENS AND TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT THE CITY ALONE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE
IT. >> IT IS , THERE IS NO CHEAP
CONSTRUCTION ANYMORE. >> RIGHT.
>> YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS IS, YOU GET INTO A BUILDING THAT IS 56 YEARS OLD, THE SAME AGE AS ME, YOU KNOW, YOU RUN INTO A LOT OF THINGS. THERE ARE SOME CONTINGENCIES IN HERE THAT ARE BUILT INTO THIS BUT THIS IS TO DO IT RIGHT. WE LOOKED AT THIS, THE $55 MILLION IS TO REALLY, IS TO DO THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS, BUT ALSO ANOTHER PHASE OR TWO IN THE FUTURE WITH THE MASTER PLAN ENVISIONED AND DO THAT AT A REASONABLE LEVEL. IF WE DID THE PHASE THAT WE ORIGINALLY SCOPED AND CAME BACK AND DID THE SECOND PHASE AND THEN THE THIRD PHASE AND THE FOURTH PHASE, WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT $10 MILLION MORE TO DO THOSE, AS WELL AS THE YEARS OF DRAGGED OUT CONSTRUCTION. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING CONCEPT 2 AT $55 MILLION. THAT COMBINES SEVERAL PHASES . IT GETS THE MOST CRITICAL PHASES AND IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO COME BACK AND EXPAND IN THE FUTURE, IF WE NEED TO. I THINK IT REALLY TAKES CARE OF OUR NEEDS FOR THE
NEXT 20 PLUS YEARS. >> SO HOW MANY PHASES ARE
ASSOCIATED WITH CONCEPT 2? >> SO, WE WOULD DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME . THE INTENT IS TO ISSUE THE CONTRACT FOR EVERYTHING. THAT IS TO INCREASE THE BOARDING AREA, THE SIZE OF THE BOARDING AREA, TO RELOCATE INTO THE TERMINAL THE SCREENING CHECKPOINT , RECONFIGURE THE AIRLINE TICKET COUNTER AREAS, BLOW OUT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND OVER THE UPPER LEVEL DRIVEWAY AND ENCLOSE THE UPPER LEVEL DRIVEWAY. WE WOULD CLOSE THAT AND ENCLOSE IT. THEN WE WOULD CREATE ANOTHER DRIVE-THROUGH LANE ON THE LOWER LEVEL. THAT WOULD BE A COVERED LANE SO THAT WAY WE HAVE COVERED PICKUP AND DROP OFF. THEN DOWNSTAIRS, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO MUCH TO BAGGAGE CLAIM . WE ARE GOING TO REPLACE THE EQUIPMENT IN THERE.
IT IS PROBABLY 25 OR SO YEARS OLD. WE WILL RECONFIGURE IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING DOWNSTAIRS .
THE RENTAL CAR COMPANIES ARE GOING TO ALSO TURN TO FACE THE OUTCOME OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. THAT IS, I THINK THAT IS MORE WELCOMING THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. AND THEN IT ALSO LEAVES SPACE ON THE WEST SIDE DOWNSTAIRS , WHERE YOU SEE PUBLIC AMENITY. THAT IS OPEN SPACE RIGHT NOW BUT WE CAN HAVE THAT FOR SOME KIND OF FUTURE USE, JUST NOT IDENTIFIED AT THIS POINT. THAT'S ON THE FIRST FLOOR. WHEN WE BUILD OUT THE BOARDING AREA, LET ME SEE IF THIS -- WE MIGHT, WORKING WITH GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION, WHICH HOLDS THE LEASE FOR THE TSA OFFICE AND THE BREAK ROOM DOWNSTAIRS, WORK WITH THEM TO CREATE A NEW SPACE THAT THEY WOULD PAY FOR TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR OFFICE AND BREAK ROOM SPACES.
IT IS ADEQUATE FOR WHAT THEY NEED RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS TIGHT. IT IS CLOSED IN ABASEMENT, BASICALLY. IT IS WINDOWLESS. WE WOULD LIKE BETTER ACCESS IN AND OUT OF
THERE. >> DON'T YOU HAVE SOME TEMPORARY WALLS AND, IN ESSENCE, INTERNAL PHASING AND
CONSTRUCTION PHASING? >> YES. WE WILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THE ENTIRE TIME. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, COLIN AND HIS FOLKS WILL HAVE TO WORK ON IN THE
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NEXT PHASE OF DESIGN. HOW WE DO THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT, YOU>> WE HAVEN'T STARTED THAT DETAIL YET.
>> IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO DO THAT LEVEL OF CHANGE WITHOUT
AFFECTING CURRENT BUSINESS. >> YES.
>> WITHOUT A BUNCH OF PHASING AND TEMPORARY WALLS TO KEEP IT
ALL RUNNING. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE WENT THROUGH THAT IN A VERY MINOR WAY PAINTING THE TERMINAL. WE DEFINITELY WENT THROUGH THAT IN TERMINAL PHASE 4 IN 2007-2008. WE HAD TO CREATE, THE PLAN WAS TO CREATE A COVERED WALKWAY DOWNSTAIRS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO PROTECT PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE ESCALATORS AND THE COVERAGE STUFF. ANYWAY, YES. WE WILL HAVE TO DO ALL OF THAT. WE WILL ALSO HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH TSA BECAUSE IT REQUIRES MOVING THEIR EQUIPMENT, MOVING THEIR WHOLE OPERATION. THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAILS WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO YET BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
THIS, TODAY AND THE COUNCIL'S REVIEW IN WHATEVER THEY DECIDE WILL DETERMINE WHAT AND WHEN WE DO.
>> WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE ON WITH CONCEPT 2. QUESTIONS
FOR DON TODAY? >> YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL RELATIVELY NEW TO ME. I AM SURE I AM GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED. LET'S SAY , WHILE WE HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE, THIS IS TAKING PLACE. WE GO OUT TO THE AIRPORT, WHAT WILL, AS A POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, TRAVELER, WHAT WOULD WE FIND TO BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT WAS THIS MORNING?
>> IF IT WERE DONE TODAY? >> YES. OKAY.
>> SO, YOUR ENTRANCE INTO THE TERMINAL IS GOING TO BE ON THE LOWER LEVEL . YOU WILL TAKE AN ELEVATOR TO THE UPPER LEVEL TO THE TICKET COUNTER. THE TICKET COUNTER, INSTEAD OF FACING, WELL, IT WILL STILL FACE THE FRONT. IT WILL BE AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BUT FURTHER OUT. IT WILL BE FACING THE DOORS. RIGHT NOW, IT IS AMAZING TO ME, BUT IT IS , KNOWING NOW THE PSYCHOLOGY OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY WALK INTO A TERMINAL AND, REALLY, ANY FACILITY THEY'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, AS SMALL AS THE AIRPORT TERMINAL IS, THEY STILL WILL STAND THERE. YOU CAN JUST SEE IT. THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY NEED TO GO NEXT. THE DECISION FROM WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE DOOR OF THE TERMINAL IS, THERE IS NO TIME TO REDESIGN AS THE TICKET COUNTER IS RIGHT TO YOUR LEFT. YOU HAVE ALREADY PASSED THE TICKET COUNTER IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SIGNS. IT IS NOT A BIG PROBLEM. THAT IS NOT THE PROBLEM WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE. IT WOULD BE, NOW, WHERE THE TICKET COUNTERS FACE THAT DOOR, YOU JUST LOOK OVER LEFT AND IT IS OBVIOUS RIGHT THERE. IT IS NOT AROUND A CORNER LIKE IT IS NOW THE SCREENING CHECKPOINT, WHEN YOU LEAVE, IF YOU ARE SOMEBODY WHO IS CHECKING A BAG AT THE TICKET COUNTER, THE SCREEN CHECKPOINT WILL BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. YOU WILL ENTER THAT LINE AND GO THROUGH THE SCREEN CHECK. THERE WILL BE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THREE SCREENING LANES . DO WE NEED THREE SCREENING LANES RIGHT NOW? OBSOLETE NOT. DO WE NEED TWO SCREENING LANES? WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE TWO RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF RECHECK. THEY ARE SQUEEZED TOGETHER. YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE REALLY CRAMMED IN. IT IS MUCH MORE NOTICEABLE NOW THAN IT WAS BEFORE AND THEN ON THE DAYS WHEN WE HAVE A CHARTER GOING OUT, SOMETIMES AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE A SCHEDULED FLIGHT GOING OUT. THAT LINE BACKS UP, SOMETIMES TO THE FRONT DOOR. I'VE SEEN THREE LANES WOULD BE VERY GREAT BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN 12, 14 PEOPLE DEEP IN THE NORMAL LINE.
>> EVERY DAY. EVERY FLIGHT. >> YOU MAY HAVE SOMEBODY IN PRECHECK IN THERE ARE STILL 14 PEOPLE DEEP PEDDLING YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN THROUGH PRECHECK AND YOU ARE STILL 14 AND GROWING. TO HAVE THREE LANES, TWO NORMAL, THAT WOULD
BE OF A BIG HELP, EVEN TODAY. >> SO, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? OKAY. WE WANT TO FUTURE PROOF AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE 10 YEARS FROM NOW NOT EVEN 20 YEARS FROM NOW WE
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ALREADY ARE TAKING A TWENTY-YEAR LOOK AT AIRPORT TECHNOLOGY. WHAT DO WE NEED HERE TO SUPPORT THAT? SOME OF THAT IS JUST EXTRA CONDUIT THAT WE DON'T HAVE. OUR CONDUIT IS STUFFED FULL RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING ELSE THROUGH IT IN MOST PLACES. HAVING THAT SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER THE FUTURE BRINGS FOR SCREENING, WHATEVER THE FUTURE BRINGS FOR AIRLINE TICKET COUNTERS. WHO KNOWS? IF YOU'RE EVEN GET A HAVE TO TALK TO AN AGENT, TO CHECK YOUR BAG, I THINK THE NEXT FEW YEARS THAT COULD GO AWAY. WE WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY. THAT IS WHAT THAT SPACE GIVES US. YOU WILL NOTICE, ALSO, NO ESCALATORS. I THINK WE MADE THAT COMMITMENT AS A GROUP.>> LET ME ASK THIS. IF WE JUST HAVE ELEVATORS, OF COURSE,
STAIRS, TOO, POSSIBLY. >> YES.
>> YOU KNOW, ELEVATORS ARE KIND OF SLOW. ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE KIND OF TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, AN HOUR BEFORE TO HAVE THAT ELEVATOR GOING UP AND DOWN?
>> YES. THEY WILL BE LARGER ELEVATORS AND WHAT WE HAVE OF THE TERMINAL. THE WENT OUT HERE HAVE COME A LONG WAY, TOO.
THEY WILL BE LARGER SO YOU CAN FIT MORE PEOPLE INTO THEM.
>> THE INTENT WOULD BE THEY ARE NOT LUGGING THEIR BIG LUGGAGE UP AND DOWN THE ELEVATOR. THEY WILL HAVE
DROPPED THAT OFF . >> YEAH, FOR THE COUNTER, RIGHT, EXACTLY. WHEN YOU ARE AN ARRIVING PASSENGER, YOUR CHECKED BAG IS DOWNSTAIRS. SO, BUT, WE ARE JUST GETTING RID OF THE ESCALATOR. I DON'T THINK WE CAN CHARGE OUR TENANTS ENOUGH TO PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF THESE
ESCALATORS. >> NOR SHOULD WAY.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. THERE OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO DO AROUND
HERE. >> HOW MANY ELEVATORS WILL
THERE BE? >> COLLIN, I THINK TWO OUT HERE
IN THE CENTRE? >> WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT TO THE POINT WE CAN DO AN ELEVATOR ANALYSIS .
INAUDIBLE ] >> YOU WILL COME IN ON THE LOWER LEVEL, COME UP TO GO TO THE TICKET COUNTER, CHECK YOUR
BAGS AND GET YOUR TICKET. >> YES.
>> THIS WHOLE YELLOW AREA, IS THAT TSA?
>> IT IS. >> THE THREE LANES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HER INSIDE THAT YELLOW AREA?
>> YES, ALMOST LIKE A SQUARE. THAT IS WHERE IT IS. IT ALSO INCLUDES THE EXIT LANE. THAT IS OF BRAND , BASICALLY A GLASS TUNNEL. YOU HAVE PROBABLY BEEN THROUGH ONE. YOU WALK THROUGH , A GLASS TUNNEL BASICALLY SEPARATES YOU FROM EVERYBODY TO LEAVE THE STERILE AREA . THAT WAY, ONLY THOSE SCREED PASSENGERS ARE BACK ON THE BOARDING SIDE BUT IT IS FULLY AUTOMATED WITH A SERIES OF DOORS THAT SAY NO REENTRY.
>> SO YOU GO IN THE YELLOW AREA, YOU GO THROUGH SCREENING AND YOU WILL HAVE AN EXIT TO THE BOARDING AREA?
>> CORRECT. >> WILL THE BOARDING AREA BE SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW?
>> YES. ABOUT 4400 SQUARE FEET LARGER.
THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT. >> OKAY.
>> SO IT WOULD BE DESIGNED TO SEAT 200 PEOPLE.
>> CURRENTLY, WE SEEK 60. >> REALLY?
>> YES. WE HAVE SEATS FOR 60. REALISTICALLY, I THINK WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, PEOPLE, IF THEY DON'T KNOW YOU AND YOU DON'T KNOW THEM, YOU DON'T SIT SHOULDER TO SHOULDER. YOU'VE GOT CHAIRS THAT YOU ARE WASTING SEATS, BASICALLY. PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT GOING TO DO THAT. WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE THAT JUST STAND. IT IS NOT AN UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATION
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IN THERE RIGHT NOW WE COULD HAVE, WHEN WE WERE BUYING FURNITURE TWO YEARS AGO FOR THE TERMINAL, WE DID THAT TERMINAL, THE FURNITURE REFRESH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ROOM IN THERETO PUT MORE FURNITURE. >> DIDN'T WE INCREASE IT?
>> WE DID. WE ADDED ADDITIONAL SEATING TO THE BEST OF OUR
ABILITY. >> THEY SEAT HOW MANY NOW? 76?
>> IF YOU HAVE A FLIGHT CANCELED AND YOU HAVE 76 PEOPLE SITTING THERE AND 76 MORE COME IN, IT'S A PROBLEM.
>> YEAH. OR IN THE SITUATION WHEN YOU HAVE A CHARTER GOING OUT AT THE SAME TIME AS A COMMERCIAL FLIGHT. THAT WAS THE 200 MARK. THAT IS WHY WE DECIDED TO AIM FOR 200. I LIKE
IT. >> FINAL QUESTIONS? OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE SO WE CAN MOVE ON --
>> LET ME, JUST REAL QUICK, REALLY, THE BIG QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR THIS? RIGHT? THAT IS, REALLY, THE MANAGER AND I HAVE DISCUSSED IT AND THE COUNCIL WILL CERTAINLY DISCUSS IT IN DETAIL. WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PLAN AT THIS POINT. I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE BREAKDOWN OF HOW WE ANTICIPATE FUNDING THIS. THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US RIGHT NOW AND THEN THE FUNDS THAT WE WILL BE GOING AFTER. I MISSPELLED RECOMMENDATION. ON THE FINANCING PAGE, THAT IS THE $1.1 MILLION WE GET EVERY YEAR FROM THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. ON THE QUALITY GUARANTEE, IN THE WORLD OF FUNDS, THAT IS AS CLOSE AS YOU WILL GET. $1.1 MILLION WE CAN COUNT ON THAT. THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, ALL OF THE ENTITLEMENTS THROUGH 2028, INCLUDING LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, $5.5 MILLION. AIG GRANT, THAT IS A GRANT THAT IS A FIVE-YEAR GRANT THAT WAS PART OF COVID . AIRPORT IMPROVING GRANT IS WHAT IT IS CALLED. AGAIN, ABOUT $1.1 MILLION. WE HAVE THREE YEARS BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THROUGH FY24. WE HAVE FY 25 AND FY 26 FOR THAT. AGAIN, ANOTHER $5.5 MILLION. PFC 4 WAS APPROVED BY YOU AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE FAA LAST YEAR. IT IS IN EFFECT . IT BECAME IN EFFECT JULY 1 LAST YEAR. THROUGH THAT, WE WILL COLLECT $1.1 MILLION THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE TERMINAL PROJECT. THEN THERE IS THE PROGRAM CALLED AIRPORT TERMINAL PROGRAM. IT IS A GRANT PROGRAM, WE HAVE TWO MORE YEARS LEFT IN THAT. AGAIN, THAT IS ANOTHER COVID ERA CREATION. WE PLAN TO APPLY FOR $5 MILLION. THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO KNOW SOON IF THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. YOU CAN NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY IN AUGUST THIS YEAR. WE WANT TO BE IN LINE FOR THAT. WE HAVE ALREADY BRIEFED FAA STAFF ON IT. THEY THINK IT IS A GOOD PROJECT. IT COULD BE COMPETITIVE. IT IS A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE GRANT . IF WE DON'T GET IT IN 2025, WE COULD TRY FOR IT IN FY 26. OR, IF WE WANT TO, WE CAN APPLY FOR ANOTHER $5 BILLION IN FY 26. I AM JUST GOING TO SAY THE $5 MILLION. THERE IS ALSO AN AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM ON THE DISCRETIONARY SIDE. WE HAVE GOTTEN DISCRETIONARY GRANTS BEFORE. WE HAVE USED THOSE ON THE AIRFIELD FOR FUNDING THE RUNWAY , TAXIWAY, RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. THERE IS ALSO A TERMINAL PROGRAM FOR SMALLER AIRPORTS, LIKE US.
THAT HAS A MAX OF $20 MILLION. WE WILL APPLY FOR $20 MILLION.
THAT WOULD MEAN A TOTAL OF 37.1 IN GRANT FUNDING , ALONG WITH OUR PASSENGER FACILITY START. 37.1 AND THAT IS ABOUT
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75% OF THE ESTIMATED COST OF $55 MILLION. WE THINK THAT 75% IS A GOOD ESTIMATE FOR ELIGIBLE COSTS. THE ADMIN OFFICE, THE TICKET COUNTER OFFICE, PRIVATE SPACES AND THE TERMINAL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TOUCH IN THIS PROJECT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE GRANT FUNDS. WE WILL HAVE TO USE OUR OWN MONEY FOR THE CITY'S MONEY , TO FUND THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT. SO THAT LEAVES $18 MILLION. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH LOCALLY. THERE ARE A VARIETY, COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE CITY COULD DO THAT. ONE IS CASH ON HAND . THERE IS NO $18 MILLION IN CASH ON HAND THAT THE AIRPORT COULD HAVE ACCESS TO. REALLY, THE CITY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO AT THIS POINT. WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT BORROWING THAT MONEY, EITHER THROUGH A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION OR A BOND ISSUE THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS. THAT IS WHAT THE COUNCIL WILL BE CONSIDERING . IF YOU GUYS VOTE TO MOVE THAT TO COUNSEL THIS TIME, WE WILL BRING THAT TO THE COUNCIL AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. THAT WILL TAKE SOME COORDINATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND MYSELF ON WHEN TO BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL. I THINK THEY ARE AWARE THIS IS COMING, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN. HAVING A CONVERSATION OF HOW WE FUND THAT. ANYQUESTIONS? >> AGAIN, I AM NEW TO THIS.
YOU KNOW, APPLIANCE -- APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND SO FORTH, HAVING WORKED, YOU KNOW, KNOWING HOW THE POLITICAL STUFF CAN CHANGE, HOW COMFORTABLE ARE YOU WITH APPLYING FOR THESE THINGS AND HAVE IT STILL EXIST?
>> SO, OTHER THAN THE ENTITLEMENT GRANTS, LIKE I SAY, THEY ARE GUARANTEED. WE ARE ENTITLED TO THOSE, BASED ARE -- ON OUR EMPLOYMENTS. THE OTHERS ARE COMPETITIVE GRANTS.
WE HAVE OUR GOAL OF WHAT WE WANT TO GET BUT WE MIGHT NOT GET THOSE. WE MIGHT NOT GET ONE OF THOSE GRANTS. THAT WOULD CHANGE THAT WHOLE POPULACE AND ME MORE MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH LOCALLY. THIS IS OUR PLAN WITH AT THIS TIME.
>> BY THE SAME TOKEN, YOU CAN APPLY FOR THE AIRPORT TERMINAL PROGRAM IN 2026 AND GET $5 MILLION AGAIN .
>> YEAH. THERE IS A BUFFER ALREADY BUILT IN HERE. THAT IS TRUE. HAVING THAT ABILITY TO GO BACK IN FY 26, IF WE APPLIED FOR THE $20 MILLION IN THE DISCRETIONARY AFP GRANT AND WE ONLY GOT $10 MILLION, WE GOT OUR ATP GRANT THIS YEAR AT $5 BILLION. WE ARE $10 MILLION SHORT, WE CAN GO BACK IN FY 26 AND APPLY FOR THAT $10 MILLION.
>> LOOKING FORWARD, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A COUPLE PROJECTS GOING ON AND WHEN THEY STARTED, THEY WOULD SAY $50 MILLION AND NOW THEY ARE $100 MILLION. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO, YOU KNOW, BRACE THIS AGAINST THAT KIND
OF INFLATIONARY? >> NOBODY HAS A CRYSTAL BALL.
HARD TO PREDICT. >> YOU HAVE TO PUT A GUESS OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IN HAND, YOU'VE GOT TO PLAN FOR WHAT YOU CAN GET AND WHAT YOU THINK YOU CAN GET AN BE REASONABLE WITH IT. WE ARE BEING CONSERVATIVE, I THINK. WE COULD GO AND ASK FOR MORE. WE THINK BY ASKING FOR FIVE, AN AIRPORT ARE SIZE, WE ARE COMPETING WITH ALL OF THE OTHER AIRPORTS OUT THERE, BASICALLY. EVERYBODY IS IN THIS MODE OF DOING STUFF FOR THEIR TERMINALS. ALL THIS MONEY IS OUT THERE. WE ARE BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE. WE COULD ASK FOR MORE MONEY IN THE ATP. THERE IS NO MAXIMUM IN THAT. BUT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THE FAA REALIZE WE ARE BEING REASONABLE ABOUT IT.
>> NOTHING VENTURED, NOTHING GAINED.
>> RIGHT. YES. YES. SO THAT IS A STRATEGIC DECISION WE MADE.
BRAD HAS BEEN PART OF THAT. EVEN FAA STAFF HAS BEEN PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE
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NUMBERS. THE 55 MILLION, THAT IS A BIG NUMBER. THIS IS A BIG PROJECT. THERE ARE SOME CONTINGENCIES BUILT INTO THAT , YOU KNOW? YES, OF COURSE, WE HOPE IT WILL COME IN LESS THAN THAT. UNFORTUNATELY, BY HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING, THOSE NUMBERS GET OUT THERE. WENT I CAR SHOPPING, I DON'T TELL THE SALESMAN I'VE GOT $50,000 TO SPEND, LET'S GO TALK. THAT IS KIND OF A POSITION THAT BEING A PUBLIC AGENCY PUT YOU IN, THERE IS SOME CHANCE, SOME CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT NUMBER OUT THERE. I DON'T LIKE THAT, THAT IS A DISADVANTAGE TO US NEGOTIATING. THIS SLIDE I ALSO CREATED TALKS ABOUT METHOD, THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK HELPS WITH SOME OF THAT , ACTUALLY. WE CAN GET A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD EARLY IN THE DESIGN PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, GET THEIR INPUT ON THE CONSTRUCTIBILITY OF THIS, THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT AND THE AIRPORT STAFF AND THEY KNOW, AGAIN, WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND ACHIEVE. THEY WILL SAY, YOU DON'T WANT THAT MATERIAL, THAT IS WAY MORE EXPENSIVE . THERE ARE THESE PROS AND CONS.WHERE THIS METHOD. THEY MAY SAY, COLLIN, WE HAD A PROJECT LIKE THIS AND IT DIDN'T WORK OUT THAT WAY. WE CAN SAVE YOU MONEY BY DOING IT THIS WAY. THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF THAT AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT AS A WAY TO DELIVER THIS PROJECT . WORKING, YOU GET THEM INVOLVED, THEY AREN'T NECESSARILY THE ONE WHO WILL BUILD THE PROJECT, BUT YOU HAVE A CONTRACTOR, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES THEY END UP BEING THE ONE WHO'S BUILT IT. YOU GET SOME INSIGHT INTO HOW A CONTRACTOR THINGS WHILE YOU ARE DESIGNING IT.
>> IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR OUR APPROVAL TO TAKE THE CONCEPT
TO COUNSEL TODAY? >> WRECKED. AT THIS POINT, YES.
>> EXPLAINED TO ME THE FUNDING TIMELINE AND HOW THAT WORKS WITH THE GRANTS AND HOW WHEN DO YOU SEE THE FINAL GMP AND HOW MUCH IT WILL REALLY BE IF YOU'VE GOT GRANTS OUT 32 OR SOMETHING I SAW IN THERE, HOW DO YOU GO AND KNOW FOR SURE WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE GRANTS AND HOW MUCH MONEY FOR SURE YOU
HAVE TO SPEND? >> SO, THE ENTITLEMENT GRANTS, WITH FAA REAUTHORIZATION, WHEN THAT IS DONE, WE KNOW WHAT 28 WILL LOOK LIKE. IT IS NOT THE BUDGET AUTHORIZED AND APPROVED, THE FAA'S ABILITY TO COMMIT TO THOSE GRANTS IS THERE. WE WOULD BE VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT $1.1 MILLION THROUGH 2028. AFTER THAT, LET'S SAY MAY 10TH THIS YEAR.
THE AIG GRANT IS ALREADY APPROPRIATED AND THE MONEY IS THERE. WE KNOW $5.5 MILLION IS HOURS. PFC 4, $1.1 MILLION, THAT IS HOURS. IT WILL TAKE THROUGH 2032 TO COLLECT. THE ATP GRANT, WE WILL KNOW IN FEBRUARY OF 2025 IF WE WERE AWARDED THAT $5 MILLION. THE AIP DISCRETIONARY GRANT, WE WOULD APPLY FOR THAT FOR THE FY 25, IS THAT RIGHT? FY 25.
WE WOULD KNOW THAT -- >> YOUR INTENT OF KNOWING ALL THIS IS WHEN HE FINISHES DESIGN .
>> YES. YES. YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY, WE WOULD HAVE, WE SHOULD HAVE ALL OF OUR MONEY, AT LEAST ON THE FEDERAL SIDE, THE GRANT SIDE IN PLACE BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR. WE WOULD AT LEAST BE AWARDED. AND THEN, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO DO, WHETHER IT IS A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION OR IF IT'S A BOND ISSUE, IF IT'S A BOND ISSUE, IT HAS TO GO BEFORE A BOND ELECTION. THAT HAS TO BE COORDINATED. PROBABLY MAYBE EVEN NOVEMBER BUT MAYBE NEXT MAY.
>> THE NEXT STEP IS TO MOVE TO FINAL DESIGN IF COUNSEL APPEARS
THAT? >> IF THE COUNCIL APPEARS THAT, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU. THERE WILL BE A SCOPE CHANGE TO ENCOMPASS THIS NEW SCOPE AND THE FEE, COLLIN HAS GIVEN ME A
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FEE PROPOSAL FOR THAT. WE WILL HAVE TO GET AN INDEPENDENT FEE ESTIMATE FOR IT AND RENEGOTIATE THAT FEE, POSSIBLY WITH PARK HILL AND THEN WE WILL COME TO YOU WITH THAT REVISED FEE AND TAKE THAT. THAT WOULD ALREADY BE FUNDED. THAT WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH OUR AIG FY24 FUNDS. WE'VE GOT THAT.>> AT THIS POINT, DOES HE FULFILL HIS CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS OR DOES HE HAVE DESIGN?
>> I THINK THEY HAVE ULTIMATELY FULFILLED IT AT THIS POINT. THE REMAINING SCOPING FEE WOULD BE TO FINISH THIS DESIGN.
>> ON THE COMPETITIVE GRANTS, DO YOU DO THOSE? HOW DO YOU GO
OUT AND DO THOSE ? >> SO, BRAD WILL ASSIST WITH THAT. BRAD, ALEX AND I, ALL THREE OF US WILL BE WORKING ON
THAT. >> THAT IS ALLOTTING YOU HAVE YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES. IT IS TAKING A LOT AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO IT YOURSELF.
>> SO ON OUR ENTITLEMENT GRANTS, ALEX HANDLES THOSE.
THEY ARE PRETTY ROUTINE FOR US. THESE, SINCE THERE WILL BE MORE GOING INTO THESE, THAT IS WHY I ASKED BRAD TO HELP WITH
>> WE'VE GOT ALL OF OUR PIECES IN PLACE, EXCEPT FOR THE MONEY.
ALL THE PLAYERS ARE HERE AND WILLING, I THINK.
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON FINANCING?
>> I DON'T THINK SO. >> CONFIDENCE LEVEL IN THE $20 MILLION DISCRETIONARY GRANT IS HIGH.
>> I HAVE NEVER GONE AFTER THAT. EVERYTHING IS COMPETITIVE. THAT IN THE ATP ARE HIGHLY COMPETITIVE. I WOULD SAY BETTER THAN 50 -50 AS FAR AS MY CONFIDENCE LEVEL.
POSITION TO PUT YOURSELF IN AT THIS POINT IN TIME. YOU ARE HITTING A PRETTY SWEET SPOT WITH RESPECT TO A REAUTHORIZATION. THE AAG -- AIG MONEY THAT IS UP THERE, THIS IS FOR THE ATP SIDE OF IT. IT'S THE KIND OF PROJECT THAT THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION IN THE FOLKS IN WASHINGTON ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD PROJECT.
I WILL KEEP MY FINGERS CROSSED THAT WE HAVE A CONTINUED GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GENTLEMAN WHO IS NOW IN CHARGE NATIONWIDE OF THE ATP PROGRAM.
>> THERE IS A RELATIONSHIP THERE ALREADY. OBVIOUSLY, HE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING OR COMMIT TO ANYTHING BUT HE IS AWARE THE PROJECT AND IT IS A GOOD PROJECT. THE DISCRETIONARY GRANT, IT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, DISCRETIONARY. I HAVE ALREADY STARTED THE DIALOGUE FROM THE LOW WAS POINT OF THE FOLKS WE DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS AND THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR GETTING THE HELP OF THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION AND YOU FOLKS AND EVERYONE ELSE TO BE IN A POSITION TO GET THAT
DONE. >> I AM SORRY. I COULD HAVE GOTTEN UP OFF MY BEHIND AND COME UP HERE AND LET THE OLD MAN STRETCHED OUT. IT IS VERY COMPETITIVE. WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE AND SUCCEEDED WELL COMING OFF THE HEELS OF WORKING WITH THE FOLKS IN LAFAYETTE, LOUISIANA FOR THEIR NEW TERMINAL. ALL IN, THAT WAS ABOUT $160 MILLION PROJECT. IT WAS THE WHIRLWIND TO TEAR DOWN THE OLD BUILDING AND BUILD A NEW ONE. BUT I BELIEVE THEY ENDED UP SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDER OF $60-$80 MILLION OF FEDERAL MONEY AND GRANTS AND PFC AND OTHER RELATED GRANTS. WE WILL LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED TRYING TO FIND THE MONEY AND HOPEFULLY PUT TOGETHER A PACKAGE THAT KEEPS THE FOLKS IN FORT WORTH HAPPY AND WANTING TO HELP FIGHT FOR THAT DISCRETIONARY MONEY. I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD SHOT AT GETTING THERE, BUT IT LIKELY WON'T COME IN ONE BIG CHUNK. BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT A PROGRAM SET WITH COLLIN AND HIS TEAMS AND I THINK THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER THE PACKAGES AND MATCHUP WITH
THE AVAILABLE FUNDING. >> I AM READY. OKAY. I NEED A
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MOTION TO TAKE EXPANSION AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECT CONCEPT 2>> ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, IT PASSES. OKAY. I WILL LET Y'ALL KNOW WHEN WE DO TAKE THIS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
>> OKAY. >> 7:30 IN THE MORNING, 8:30? OKAY. I MAY NOT BE THERE. I WILL COME BUT I MAY NOT BE
THERE AT FIRST. >> DO WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION
NOW? >> I THOUGHT WE MIGHT BUT THAT ISSUE ISN'T SO MUCH OF AN ISSUE TODAY. I WOULD SAY NO.
>> MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 9.
>> MAY 8 IS THE NEXT BOARD MEETING . WE WILL HAVE OUR AIRPORT FULL-SCALE EXERCISE THAT MORNING. THAT IS FROM 9:00 TO ABOUT 12:00. WE WILL RE-CREATE A SIMULATED ACCIDENT ON THE AIRPORT. IT WILL BE A BUSY DAY.
>> I CAN'T WAIT. >> YOU CAN COME OUT AND WATCH
THAT. >> WHAT I'M? DID HE 9:00?
>> 9:00 A.M. >> DOES THAT AFFECT PASSENGER
TRAVEL? >> NO. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE TWO RUNNING SO WE CAN PRACTICE ON ONE OF THE RUNWAYS.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOU
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