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[00:00:04]

OKAY, LET'S GET THIS STARTED.

GO AHEAD. TERRY.

THIS IS THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL.

[CALL TO ORDER]

WE WOULD LIKE TO INFORM EVERYONE PRESENT THAT THIS COUNCIL MEETS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT, AND THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE COUNCIL IS TO SET IS SET FORTH BY THE CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 40 6-2003 AND PASSED ON THE 25TH DAY OF NOVEMBER 2003. THIS IS A RECOMMENDING COUNCIL.

ALL FINAL DECISIONS ARE MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL OR OTHER BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS AS SET FORTH BY CITY ORDINANCE.

OUR OVERALL PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT TO THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IN CARRYING ON THE ONS OBJECTIVES AND RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STRATEGY OF THE ACE TASK FORCE REPORT.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO.

I'M LETICIA REEVES WITH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

ALONG WITH ME IS MY STAFF, REGINA FISCH, CHRISTIE POLVINO AND JAMES MCFADDEN.

[1. Presentation and Dieussiom Receive a Report and Hold a Discussion on and make Recommendation on Community Development Block Grant CDBG Funding Applications.]

WE'LL BE GOING OVER THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE TURNED IN FOR CDBG AND HOME.

AND SO WE'VE KIND OF DID, YOU KNOW, DID A LITTLE DIFFERENT THIS YEAR.

AND WE CAN GO OVER EACH ONE.

SO WE'LL START OFF WITH OF COURSE OUR FUNDING GUIDELINES AND WHAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW BY HUD.

OF COURSE WE HAVE TO AT LEAST MEET ONE NATIONAL OBJECTIVE, WHICH ALL THESE APPLICANTS DID.

WE HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, AND WE HAVE TO ASSIST A MAJORITY OF 70% IN THE MODERATE TO LOW INCOME AREA.

AND THEN WITH ANY OF THE NONPROFITS ANY TYPE OF ASSISTANCE THAT WE FUND HAS TO BE ONLY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

SO WITH THAT SAID, WE'LL START WITH THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS THE CDBG REQUEST.

WE HAVE THREE.

WE HAVE SALVATION ARMY THAT HAS REQUESTED 136,093 AND $0.28.

AND YOU HAVE YOUR PACKETS THAT YOU REVIEWED ON THOSE.

WE ALSO HAVE CONDEMNATION DEMOLITION PROGRAM, WHICH I CALL THAT, AN IN-HOUSE PROGRAM THAT WE OFFER THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT WHERE WE DEMOLISH PROPERTIES COULD EITHER BE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, AS LONG AS THEY QUALIFY IN A LOW DEMAND AREA AND NO FLOOD.

AND THEN OUR OFFICE, IN-HOUSE PROGRAMS OF CRITICAL REPAIR AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION NOW CRITICAL REPAIR, OF COURSE, AS MANY AS YOU KNOW, WE ASSIST HOMEOWNERS WITH ANY KIND OF CRITICAL REPAIRS TO THEIR HOUSE.

THAT IS A SAFETY TO THE FAMILY OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION IS JUST PRETTY MUCH A SIDING AND PAINT PROGRAM.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE REQUESTS TOTALING 736,093 AND $0.28.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ALL THREE.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE ONE FOR THE SALVATION ARMY.

YES. THE CHILDREN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE, WHAT DO THEY DO WITH THE OLD CHILDREN? JOSH MCCAIN IS HERE WITH SALVATION ARMY AND I'LL HAVE HIM JUST CURIOUS COME UP.

YEAH. I MEAN, USUALLY WHEN WE HAVE HVAC REPAIRS, IT'S UP TO THE TECHNICIANS TO DISPOSE OF THAT.

AND SO WE DON'T DISPOSE OF THAT LOCALLY, BUT.

IT WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'D EVER HAVE TO HAVE THIS CHILI REPLACED.

AND SO, BILLY, TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.

OTHER THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE HAD.

TO REPLACE SMALLER UNITS IN OTHER.

BECAUSE THE MATERIAL THAT THE CHILLER IS MADE OF IS WORTH SOME MONEY AND SALVAGE.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET YOUR TRAILER AND LOAD IT UP AND TAKE IT TO PINE STREET.

YEAH, YEAH. ARE YOU ASKING FOR IT, BILLY? YES, YES, I NEED IT.

LET ME ASK REAL QUICK, I DON'T KNOW, IS THIS MEETING BEING.

IS THIS ONE BEING RECORDED? OKAY, SO IF SOMEONE IS SPEAKING, JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE MICROPHONE AND WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE COME UP TO THE PODIUM TO SPEAK, AND THAT'LL BE, THAT'LL RECORD IT MORE CLEARLY. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY, I HAD ONE QUESTION.

OF COURSE. IT'S A QUESTION I KNOW THE ANSWER TO, I THINK, IS THAT YOU ONLY HAVE ONE BID.

THAT I SAW THREE BIDS.

YES, WE IN WORKING WITH ACCURATE AIR SOLUTIONS, WE GOT WE GOT ONE BID PER SE, BUT FROM THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNITS BETWEEN TRAIN CARRIER AND ONE OTHER THAT WE WERE NOT QUITE FAMILIAR WITH.

SO WE WENT WITH THE MID RANGE, WHICH WAS THE TRAIN.

OKAY. IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? I DIDN'T I DIDN'T HAVE TIME.

AND AND SO I HAD A BID FROM OH, BADGER.

BUT IT WAS OUTDATED.

IT WAS ABOUT FROM A YEAR AGO.

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NO, I MEAN A REASON WHY YOU SELECTED THAT.

THE MIDDLE ONE AS OPPOSED TO THE ONE OF THE OTHER TWO.

I THINK IT WAS JUST TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE, AND ONE OF THE OTHER ONES IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE.

ONE HAD THE SHORTEST TIME FRAME, BUT I WASN'T NECESSARILY FAMILIAR WITH THAT NAME.

AND SO TRAIN WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT, THAT, THAT I WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE FAMILIAR WITH.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, NO OTHER JUSTIFICATION FOR WHY I WENT WITH THAT, RATHER THAN GOING WITH THE LOWEST AND GOING WITH THE HIGHEST, JUST MEETING IN THE MIDDLE.

I HAVE A QUESTION AS WELL. ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS YOUR CAPACITY, CURRENT STAFF AND ACCESS TO SKILLED INDIVIDUALS.

I SAW AN ORG CHART AND THEN THERE WAS ONE RESUME FROM BRITTANY J.

BUT I DON'T SEE THAT PERSON IN THE ORG CHART.

SO CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT CONNECTION? SURE. BRITTANY J IS OUR DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.

AND AND SO SHE'S BEEN IN THAT CAPACITY FOR THE PAST YEAR.

AND SO SHE IS THE ONE THAT HELPS WRITE GRANTS.

GOT IT. THANK YOU.

WELL, SHE DID A GOOD JOB ON WHOEVER DID THE APPLICATION.

THAT DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

THANK YOU. BILLY. I'LL LET HIM.

LET HIM KNOW. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WELL, IS THIS WHEN WE SAY NOT YET? YEA OR NAY? WE DO THAT AT THE END, RIGHT? NOT YET. WE STILL HAVE THE CONDEMNATION AND CRITICAL NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

OKAY. I WILL SPEAK ON CRITICAL REPAIR.

WE'VE EXHAUSTED ALL THOSE FUNDS FOR THIS YEAR.

THEY'VE COMPLETELY BEEN DONE.

AND WE ASSISTED 27 HOUSEHOLDS.

WHICH ONE WAS THIS CRITICAL REPAIR? OKAY, YEAH. AND NOW THAT CAN IT COVERS, YOU KNOW, WATER HEATERS, ROOFING, BATHROOM REPAIRS, WATER LEAKS, ANYTHING THAT'S A CRITICAL OR HAZARDOUS HEALTH TO THE FAMILY.

SO WE'VE RAN OUT OF MONEY PRETTY QUICK ON THAT PROGRAM.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE THIS YEAR.

DOES THE HOMEOWNER, DO THEY PITCH IN ANYTHING TOWARD THE COST OF THIS OR.

NO THEY DON'T. IT'S ALL COVERED BY THE GRANT COMPLETELY.

YEAH. THEY THEY DO HAVE TO MAINTAIN IN THEIR RESIDENCE FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS TO SATISFY THAT.

IF THEY DECIDE TO SELL THE PROPERTY, THEN THEY WOULD OWE US A PORTION BACK OF THAT MONEY.

NO. OKAY. DO THEY HAVE TO DO THEY HAVE TO CARRY INSURANCE? NO THEY DON'T.

WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT, BUT WE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FEASIBLE AS FAR AS THEIR INCOME GOING.

AND SOME OF THESE FALL INTO THE INCOME BRACKET OF 0 TO 30 INCOME LIMIT, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR ELDERLY.

BUT YES, ALL THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY EXHAUSTED AND WE'VE HAD TO REFER CLIENTS TO OTHER AGENCIES TO HELP THEM BECAUSE WE CAN'T.

SO WHAT WAS THE NUMBER LAST YEAR? THE YEAR BEFORE WE DID 49, BUT WE HAD DOUBLE THE MONEY.

SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO INCREASE.

WHAT WAS THE HOW MUCH DID YOU HAVE THIS YEAR? THIS YEAR WE ONLY HAD 266,000.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

YES. YEAH. WE HAD PRETTY MUCH READ MORE.

YES WE DO. WE COULD WE COULD PROBABLY SPEND MORE EVEN THAN THIS REQUEST.

SO YOU SAID LAST YEAR Y'ALL HAD DOUBLE THE MONEY AND THEN Y'ALL HELPED 49 HOMES.

AND SO THIS ONE THIS IS THIS WILL GET US MORE CLOSER.

CLOSER TO THAT NUMBER.

YES I BELIEVE SO.

YEAH I KNOW YOU CAN'T SAY FOR SURE, BUT WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST.

YEAH. WE ARE CRITERIA IS WE LOOK AT PRIORITY ONE, TWO AND THREE.

BEING OF COURSE PRIORITY ONE IS GOING TO COME BEFORE ALL OF THEM.

OR IF THERE'S A GAS LEAK THERE, THERE MOVED UP TO THE TOP OF THE LIST.

WE ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ELDERLY OR THE EXTREMELY LOW INCOME AND OUR TARGET NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO GOOD.

OKAY. HOW MANY VENDORS DO WE HAVE THAT DO THE REPAIRS? OUR CONTRACTORS, WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, THREE, FOUR.

WE HAVE FOUR CONTRACTORS.

HAVE THEY BEEN WITH US FOR A WHILE? THREE OF THEM, YES. WE RECENTLY HAVE A NEW ONE AND HE'S DONE PRETTY WELL THIS FIRST YEAR.

SO. SO WE ACCEPT APPLICATIONS FOR VENDORS IF THEY WANT TO.

YES. WE'RE ALWAYS TAKEN OKAY.

WE'RE ALWAYS TAKEN. SO THERE IS A PACKET.

THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME PICK UP.

AND WE'LL GO OVER THE PROCESS AND GIVE IT A TRIAL AND SEE HOW IT GOES OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY, WELL, CAN I JUST ASK, OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT DID Y'ALL DO THE MOST? THIS YEAR AS FAR AS REPAIRS? YEAH, AS FAR AS WHAT? OKAY, 88 BATHROOMS, YOU SAY? 88 BATHROOMS. YEAH, THAT IS A DIRE NEED.

I MEAN, THE WHOLE TUB THING GETS A LITTLE DIFFICULT.

SO, YEAH, WE USUALLY REMOVE THAT, DO A STEP AND SHOWER WITH GRAB BARS.

AND I BELIEVE THE SHOWER HEAD MOVES UP AND DOWN FOR THEM, SO.

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GREAT PROGRAM. YES IT IS.

YES. JUST LIKE CURIOSITY.

WHO DO YOU WHO DO YOU UTILIZE AS FAR AS THE RESOURCES THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU'RE USING WITHIN THE HOMES? YOU HAVE A A COMPANY THAT PROVIDES, LIKE THE STRUCTURE FOR THE STEP IN SHOWERS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

WE LEAVE THAT ALL TO OUR CONTRACTORS.

I'LL LET JAMES SPEAK ON THAT ONE.

HE'S OUR INSPECTOR, AND SO HE'S THE ONE THAT WRITES UP THE BID JOBS.

YEAH. USUALLY WE HAVE FOUR SUB SUBCONTRACTORS THAT PROVIDE ALL THE WORK AND THEN IT'S REALLY UP TO THEM.

THEY CAN GO THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THEY EITHER GO TO BUTTERY OR TO LOWE'S.

OKAY. YEAH.

SO YOU SAID BIDS.

DO Y'ALL BID IT OUT BETWEEN THE FOUR CONTRACTORS OR YOU'RE WE'RE DOWN TO ROTATIONAL LOG OKAY.

SO WE GO 12341234.

YEAH. AT ONE TIME WE DID DO A BID BETWEEN THE FOUR.

BUT WE HAVE ONE CONTRACTOR THAT UNDER BIDS EVERYBODY.

AND TO MAKE IT FAIR TO GIVE ALL FOUR OF THEM WORK WE SWITCHED TO A ROTATIONAL LOT.

WELL IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD REALLY SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN IF YOU WERE BIDDING OUT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

YEAH, YEAH. WHENEVER WE BID IT OUT, WE'D HAVE A 30 DAY WINDOW FOR THEM TO RETURN THE BID.

BUT WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE ROTATIONAL LOG, I GIVE THEM SEVEN DAYS.

YEAH, BUT YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT NEED STUFF.

NOT 30 DAYS FROM NOW, RIGHT? YEAH. AND TO ADD TO THAT, CHRISTIE'S OUR HOUSING COUNSELOR.

AS SOON AS THEY COME IN, SHE TRIES TO GET THEM IN.

IF THEY HAVE A MOMENT TO WAIT FOR THE PAPERWORK.

SHE'LL RUN THAT PROCESS.

AND IF NOT, WE GET THEM IN THE NEXT DAY.

LETITIA, WHEN WE DO THESE REPAIRS, DO WE CONCENTRATE ON SPREADING THEM OUT THROUGH THE LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS, OR DO WE CONCENTRATE ON ONE NEIGHBORHOOD? NO. WE TAKE THEM AS FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE.

AND SO AT THIS POINT, ANYONE THAT COMES IN, WE'RE ABLE TO ASSIST.

BUT IF WE HAVE A SURGE OF APPLICANTS, THEN YES, WE KICK OFF WITH OUR PRIORITIES.

WHAT IS THE NEED? YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THEIR REQUEST.

THEN WE LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEMOGRAPHIC AND THEN THE TARGET NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO BUT FIRST OF ALL, WE LOOK IF IT'S A NEED, IF ARE THEY WITHOUT WATER, ARE THEY WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONING IN SUMMERTIME THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE GO BASED ON.

BUT THE WAY IT'S GOING, WE'RE ABLE TO GET THEM RIGHT IN AND GET THESE GOING SO WELL.

AND THERE ARE 15 LMI NEIGHBORHOODS.

YES. SO OF THOSE 15, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY YOU DID CRITICAL REPAIRS IN? JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY.

I CAN'T REALLY SAY AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD, TERRY, BUT SHE DOES TRACK THAT, SO OKAY.

I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SEND THAT TO YOU.

BUT YES, SHE KEEPS A TRACK OF HOW MANY WE ASSIST AND WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND EVEN DOWN TO THE REPAIR.

SO HOW MANY WE DID WITH ROOFING, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, ETC..

I KNOW YOU'VE SAID BEFORE, BUT CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS MAKING THE RESIDENTS OF THESE PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOODS AWARE OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND SERVICES? WE DO.

OF COURSE WE GO THROUGH UNITED WAY.

WE DO.

OUTREACH AS FAR AS CHRISTIE WILL GO AND SIT AT THE REC CENTERS A LITTLE PRIOR TO THEIR LUNCH AND JUST HAVE INFORMATION.

WE'VE DONE IT AT CESAR CHAVEZ, G.V.

DANIELS COBB PARK RECREATION AND JUST KIND OF GET TO KNOW THE CITIZENS THAT ARE THERE AND INFORM THEM OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

RECENTLY WE SPOKE WITH THE LADIES THAT DO THE WORKOUTS AT ONE OF THE REC CENTERS.

AND SO OUR BEST THING HAS BEEN WORD OF MOUTH, BUT IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING LATELY.

IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING.

BUT THE ONLY PROBLEM IS WE RAN OUT OF MONEY.

SO. SURE.

YEAH. AT WHAT POINT DID YOU RUN OUT? WHEN DID YOU HAVE TO START SAYING NO? DECEMBER. AND WE WERE FUNDED IN OCTOBER.

YEAH, YEAH.

WOW. YEAH. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE STRUGGLE.

HENCE YOU COULD ASK FOR MORE AND PROBABLY STILL RUN OUT.

YEAH. YES.

I MEAN, MORE THAN YOU DID ASK.

LIKE YOU'RE RIGHT.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT GOES INTO 211 TEXAS AT ALL? DO Y'ALL PUT ANY WHEN SOMEBODY GETS ASSISTANCE AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

OH INTO THEIR YEAH.

SO IF SOMEBODY GETS ASSISTANCE FOR THEIR HOME, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GOING TO FOOD PANTRIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I KNOW THAT IT IT'S LOGGED IN THERE.

NO WE DON'T OKAY.

WE TRY TO KEEP ALL THEIR INFORMATION IN OUR OFFICE AND CONFIDENTIAL, SO WE DON'T SHARE ANY OF THAT WITH THEM.

[00:15:09]

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

[2. Presentation and Discussion: Receive a Report and Hold a Discussion and make Recommendation on HOME Investment Partnership HOME Funding Applications]

MOVING TO OUR HOME PROGRAM.

OUR HOME PROGRAM.

WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY REHABILITATION.

AND THE HOME BUYER PROGRAM REQUESTED 320,000.

AND THEN OUR HABITAT FOR HUMANITY IS OUR ONLY CHOTTO, WHICH THEY AUTOMATICALLY GET 15% OF OUR ENTITLEMENT.

SO ALL IN TOTAL 392,000.

WHAT'S THE TOTAL NUMBER? JUST THE CHOTO PART OF THAT.

THE 15% OR.

YEAH THAT'S OKAY.

OUR ALLOCATION IS NOT AVAILABLE YET.

SO WE'RE BASING THIS JUST AN ESTIMATE.

SO ONCE WE GET THAT WE'LL KNOW FOR SURE.

BUT USUALLY IT'S IN THE BASIS OF ABOUT 70 TO 74,000.

AND SO WITH THAT WE'LL ALLOW 2 TO 3 HOMES TO BE USED TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION FOR ANY LOW LOW INCOME FAMILY THAT'S IN A NON FLOOD TARGET NEIGHBORHOOD. REGINA.

THE OUR SCREENS HERE SAY IT WAS REQUESTED 392,000.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE OUR PACKETS SAY 320.

AM I MISSING THAT? THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

AND THEN, LIKE SHE SAID, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

OH, I SEE, I JUST MISSED THAT WHOLE FIRST LINE.

I'M SORRY. OKAY.

YES, BECAUSE IT'S BROKEN DOWN.

SINGLE FAMILY.

I MEAN, SINGLE FAMILY REHABILITATION GETS 290 AND THEN THE OTHER 30,000 GOES TOWARDS HOMEBUYER.

NOW WITH THESE FUNDS WE CAN ACTUALLY SHARE.

SO WE RAN OUT OF HOME BUYER MONEY.

WE CAN BORROW FROM THE REHAB.

AND THIS IS THE ONLY PROGRAM WE CAN DO THAT WITH.

SO WE RUN SHORT AND WE'VE GOT EXTRA HOME BUYERS AND WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE WE CAN TAKE FROM THE REHAB PROGRAM AND VICE VERSA.

DID. DID WE DO A LOT OF THE FIRST FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS? UNFORTUNATELY WE DID.

LET'S SEE, LAST YEAR WE HAD ONE AND THIS YEAR WE ACTUALLY HAVE ALREADY DONE ONE.

AND SO WHY IS IT THAT IT'S THE DEMAND IS SO LOW? THE HOUSES ARE NOT WHAT OUR CLIENTS CAN AFFORD IN THEIR BUDGET.

I MEAN, WE'VE GOT CLIENTS THAT ARE ONLY ELIGIBLE FOR MAYBE 90,000.

AND TO FIND A HOUSE THAT WILL PASS INSPECTION, A HUD INSPECTION, IT'S JUST NOT IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, UNFORTUNATELY.

AND WE'RE WORKING WITH LENDERS.

THEY DO CONTACT US.

WE SEND THEM OUR APPLICATION.

BUT IT'S IT'S THE MARKET THAT'S OUT THERE THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THEM, ESPECIALLY THIS MARKET.

NO, IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE ONE.

BUT ALONG WITH THE HOME BUYER PROGRAM, WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY TOWARDS THEIR CLOSING COSTS AND DOWN PAYMENT.

OH OKAY. YEAH. AND ALL THE HABITAT FAMILIES APPLY AND YES.

GET IT. SO WE'RE HOPING TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE LENDERS AND REALTORS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE. BUT FINDING THE CLIENTS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE AND CAN FIND A PROPERTY THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM IS ANOTHER THING.

FOR THE REHABILITATION STUFF.

HOW DO Y'ALL DO? Y'ALL BID THAT OUT, I ASSUME.

OR WHAT IS THAT PROCESS? THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PROCESS.

IT'S MORE UNTIL, OF COURSE, THE REHAB IS A FULL REHAB OF THE ENTIRE HOUSE.

SO IT'S COMPLETELY GUTTED.

BUT WHAT WE DO IS WE DO HAVE TO SEND THAT AND FOLLOW CITY POLICY ON SENDING IT OUT FOR BID.

AND THAT GOES, I BELIEVE, IN THE NEWSPAPER AND THAT IS ALL HANDLED THROUGH THE ACCOUNTING PROCESS.

THEY GET THE BIDS TURNED IN THERE AND THEN WE OPEN THEM HERE AT ONE TIME.

AND SO THE ON THAT ONE, WHOEVER HAS THE LOWEST BID WILL BE AWARDED THE JOB.

ONLY BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT.

WHEN DID WE STOP? THE CLEAR THE HOUSE AND BUILD A NEW ONE.

THE RECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM THAT WAS RECENTLY.

YEAH. THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT LAST YEAR WE STOPPED THAT.

RIGHT. THE AMOUNT THAT IS GOING INTO A RECONSTRUCTION, WE COULD DO 2 TO 3 HOUSES UNDER REHAB.

SO IT'S IT REALLY DIDN'T WORK OUT.

YOU KNOW, WE FIGURED THIS WAS THE BEST ROUTE THAT WE CAN HELP THREE FAMILIES VERSUS JUST ONE.

AND IT'S NOT SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF AFFORDABILITY, BECAUSE WITH RECONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THEIR TAXES ARE GOING TO GO UP AND WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. NOT ONLY THAT, THE INSURANCE WILL BE OUTRAGEOUS FOR THEM.

SO ARE WE REALLY HELPING THEM OR JUST PUTTING THEM IN A FINANCIAL BIND? SO AT LEAST WITH REHAB, THEIR TAXES, TAXES WON'T CHANGE VERY MUCH, THEIR INSURANCE WON'T BE AS BAD AND THEY CAN STAY AND MAINTAIN IN THEIR HOME.

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THAT IS COMPLETELY BROUGHT UP TO CODE.

YEAH, BUT THEY DO.

THEY STILL THEY STILL HAVE TO MOVE OUT.

CORRECT. FOR SIX MONTHS.

IS IT STILL THE SIX MONTH WE SAY WITH THE REHAB ABOUT 4 TO 6 MONTHS.

IT JUST DEPENDING ON OF COURSE MATERIALS AND WEATHER.

SO DO WE HELP HIM WITH THE MOVE OUT OR DO THEY JUST WE DO NOT PAY FOR RELOCATION FEES AND WE USUALLY WALK THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS SO THEY CAN START THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO LIVE DURING THE, YOU KNOW, THE REHAB OF THEIR HOME.

AND USUALLY THEY CAN WORK THINGS OUT WITH FAMILY.

SO WE KIND OF WALK THEM BECAUSE IT IS A LENGTHY PROCESS.

WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ON THE INSPECTION OF IT, JAMES HAS TO GO OUT, INSPECT THE PROPERTY, LEAD, TEST IT, MAKE SURE THAT IT PASSES ALL THAT BEFORE, AND THEN IF IT'S OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO PRESENT IT TO CITY COUNCIL, SO IT JUST TAKES EVEN LONGER.

SO IN ALL THAT TIME WE JUST KIND OF GUIDE THEM.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PARK MINI POD IN YOUR YARD TO PUT ALL YOUR STUFF.

WE'VE HAD CLIENTS DO THAT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO MOVE THEM TOO FAR.

WE ALSO RECOMMEND IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR SPRING CLEANING.

GET RID OF WHAT YOU DON'T NEED.

BUT WHAT'S THE AVERAGE COST OF A REHAB? FOR REHAB, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ANYWHERE FROM 60 TO 80,000.

AND THAT'S THAT. WE DO EVERYTHING PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, HVAC, NEW WINDOWS, NEW ROOF, OF COURSE, ANY BATHROOM, REHAB, REPAIR THAT WE DO DURING ANY REHABS, WE MAKE THEM HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.

AND THEY HAVE TO KEEP IT INSURED.

YES, FOR THE PERIOD OF AFFORDABILITY, IT CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15 YEARS.

AND AS WE TELL THEM, THAT IS JUST FOR YOUR PROTECTION.

IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS, YOU CAN REPLACE OR YOU CAN BUY ANOTHER HOME.

BECAUSE USUALLY WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE EITHER IT'S NOT INSURABLE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF ITS CONDITION.

SO HOW MANY DID WE DO THIS PAST YEAR? THIS PAST YEAR WE DID OUR LAST RECONSTRUCTION THAT WE FINISHED AND ONE REHAB.

THE HOPE IS THIS YEAR. LIKE FOR MAYBE WE'RE HOPING IF WE CAN GET THE APPLICANTS.

WE HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW THAT'S IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH OUR HOUSING COUNSELOR ON THE PROCESS.

AND THEN ONCE SHE QUALIFIES INCOME WISE, THEN THE FILE WOULD BE PASSED OVER INTO OUR INSPECTOR AND HE WILL MAKE SURE IT PASSES THROUGH, YOU KNOW, LEAD THE LEAD TESTING, FOUNDATION STRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT WOULD KEEP SOMEONE FROM APPLYING? I GUESS THE RELOCATION.

JUST THE RELOCATION.

WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE REALLY ANYWHERE TO GO.

WHAT'S THE TYPICAL AGE OF A HOME WE'RE REHABBING? THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RECENTLY.

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE LONG'S BEEN HERE? 50S AND THE 50S.

YEAH. CAN THEY UTILIZE ANY OF THE FUNDS FOR THE REHAB TO HELP WITH EVEN LIKE RELOCATION OF THEIR OF THEIR OF THEIR HOME, OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE MINI PODS OR A STORAGE UNIT OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. NO, NO.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL OUT OF POCKET FOR THEM.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT MAY BE ANOTHER BARRIER AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST, AND THAT'S WHAT WE TELL THEM.

IF THIS ISN'T FOR YOU NOW, MAYBE YOU CAN APPLY NEXT YEAR AND JUST START PREPARING, OKAY.

BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S LOOKING, WE'RE NOT HAVING MANY APPLICANTS.

AND THE GOOD THING WITH THIS PROGRAM IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT BOTH WAYS HOME BUYER OR REHAB.

SO IF EITHER ONE PICKS UP, IT'D BE GREAT.

YEAH. I WONDER IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT MIGHT BE WILLING TO TO SUPPLY OR GIVE A DISCOUNT IF THOSE ARE SOME OF THE IDENTIFIED BARRIERS, IF THERE IF THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED.

I BET WE COULD.

WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT.

ENTITY I KNOW.

A COUPLE IN THE PAST WORKED OUT A DEAL WITH ONE OF THE LONG STAY MOTELS, JUST LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY WERE HAVING THEIR HOUSE RECONSTRUCTED, BUT THAT THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE CITY PROGRAM. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY WERE HAVING THIS MAGNIFICENT HOUSE BUILT THAT.

IT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE LOW INCOME AND THEY QUALIFIED.

SO THEY DID THEY DID GIVE THEM A DEAL.

SO, I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T HURT FOR US TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF THOSE HOTELS AND MAYBE SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

WHAT ARE YOU ABLE TO DO FOR OUR CLIENTS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN? SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

MAYBE SOME STORAGE UNITS TO.

YES, EXACTLY.

OKAY? YES.

GOOD. WELL. THANK YOU.

AND AREN'T THEY TRYING TO FLIP THE ROYAL IN INTO.

MORE LIKE HOUSING UNITS.

[00:25:01]

I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.

THAT WAS IN THE PAPER.

OH, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

THEY THEY WANT IT TO QUALIFY FOR YOU KNOW, HOUSING SECTION EIGHT.

ET CETERA. ET CETERA. OKAY.

OH, WOW. SO. AND THEY'RE DOING IT.

I THINK WHEN I DRIVE BY THERE, THERE'S ALWAYS PICKUPS.

WOW. RIGHT.

I CAN SEE THAT TRANSPORTATION OF SCHOOL AGE KIDS TO SCHOOL COULD ALSO BE AN ISSUE OR A BARRIER IF YOU'RE HAVING TO MOVE OUT OF YOUR HOME ZONE.

YEAH, IT IS LETICIA.

WHAT DOES FLOOD ZONING DO TO TO THESE APPLICANTS? THAT'S ANOTHER BARRIER.

IF THEY ARE LOCATED ANYWHERE IN THE 100 YEAR OR FLOOD WAY, WE CANNOT ASSIST THEM.

WE CANNOT INVEST FEDERAL FUNDS INTO THOSE PROPERTIES.

SO. SO THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE JUST.

YEAH. THEY'RE CANNOT GET ASSISTANCE AND THAT'S FAIR.

AND I'VE BROUGHT THAT UP. WE'VE HAD A HUD REP DOING A TOUR OF TEXAS I BELIEVE, TWO YEARS AGO.

AND I DID EXPLAIN THAT THAT'S WHERE OUR STRUGGLE IS IN ABILENE, IS A LOT OF THESE HOUSES THAT ARE IN DIRE NEED OF THESE REPAIRS.

WE CANNOT ASSIST BECAUSE THEY ARE SITTING IN A 100 YEAR OR IN A FLOODWAY.

BUT DOES THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS DO THEY DO THAT STUDY? I'M SORRY, THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, FEMA IS ALL THEY TOLD ME.

FEMA HANDLES ALL THAT.

SO AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THEY DID CHANGE THE FEMA MAP IN 2012, SOME OF OUR CLIENTS THAT WEREN'T IN A FLOOD ZONE ARE NOW IN A FLOOD ZONE.

SO THAT TOOK THEM OFF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.

THOSE ARE IT. WOW.

WHAT DID WE TALK ABOUT? TEARING DOWN THINGS.

THE CONDEMNATION PROGRAM.

WE CAN WE GET WE FUND CODE ENFORCEMENT, 150,000.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

I THINK THIS PAST YEAR, THEY INCREASED IT.

THAT WAS PER ADMINISTRATION, AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY SUCCESSFULLY COM EXHAUSTED ALL THEIR FUNDS AS WELL.

THEY'RE DONE WITH OUR CDBG FUNDS.

SO THEY WERE TOTALED.

THEY DID 11.

SOME OF THOSE WERE COMMERCIALS.

SOME WERE REAL ESTATE.

SO THEY CLEARED OFF THE LOTS.

NOW THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME CRITERIA LOW DEMAND AREA AND CANNOT BE IN THE FLOOD ZONE.

RIGHT. WELL, GEOLOGISTS LIKE HIGHER MIDDLE SCHOOL BOYS TO GO DO THAT.

THEY HAVE THEIR CONTRACTORS AS WELL, AND THEY DO TURN IN THEIR BIDS AND PROCESS.

SO. ABOUT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL BOYS WOULD BE CHEAPER THOUGH.

YEAH, RIGHT. TRY THAT.

YES. GIVE IT A SHOT.

BE MORE FUN TO WATCH. IT WOULD BE FUN.

I'VE GOT ONE. I'LL SEND.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE FOUR? I THINK IT'S BEEN A GREATLY PRESENTED.

I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT THE CITY HAS PUT INTO IT.

AS YOU'VE BEEN PUTTING THESE PACKETS TOGETHER, I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR ALL OF THEM.

A SECOND. WAY TO GO, RACHEL.

ALL IN FAVOR? I. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU ALL.

YEAH. THANK YOU. Y'ALL. YOU KNOW THIS WELL, PLUS THERE'S JUST FOUR.

YEAH. SO LIKE SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE GONE WITH THE WIND TO READ THROUGH THESE.

BUT TODAY IT WAS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, A HARLEQUIN ROMANCE.

SO THAT WAS THAT WAS GREAT.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

LETICIA, WHERE DO WE COLLECT OUR CHECK? OH I WILL DIRECT YOU TO ADMIN FOR MR..

SOMEONE CAME OUTSIDE. YEAH.

BILLY. SORRY. THAT FUND IS EXHAUSTED AS WELL.

I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK TO SEE WHERE WE WERE MEETING, SO I APOLOGIZE.

WE'RE GOING TO. NEXT YEAR, BUT THE TWO MEETINGS ARE AHEAD OF TIME.

OKAY? YEAH.

IT WAS MY FAULT. YEAH. I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE FOR BEING LATE.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN HERE.

SO I WALKED DOWNSTAIRS AND I LOOKED AROUND, AND THEN I WAS LIKE, I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.

SO, YES, I APOLOGIZE AS WELL.

I WAS AT ANOTHER MEETING. REGINA WILL TAKE YOUR YES.

OKAY. YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF IT IF YOU WANT IT.

YEAH. THAT'S FINE.

YES. OKAY.

CAN WE USE. WHAT DO YOU WANT?

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ALL THIS? THAT WAS SHORT AND SWEET.

YEAH. VERY MUCH. TAKE CARE.

YES. I'M GOING TO CORRECT IT FOR YOU.

OKAY. PLEASE DO THIS ONE.

YEAH, IF YOU EVER NEED TO. NICE TO SEE YOU.

YOU JUST WANT ME? YES.

IS IT CORRECT? ALL RIGHT.

IS YOUR EMAIL ON HERE? YEAH.

I'LL JUST EMAIL YOU IT. DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT OR JUST WRITE IT ON HERE? OKAY. NO, WAIT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BOTHER. YEAH.

AND WE'RE GOING TO SEND OUT AN AGENDA EARLY NEXT YEAR.

SO THERE'S MORE CALENDAR.

YEAH. WILL YOU SEND IT?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.