Aug 20, 2024 Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO)

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1231. I'LL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE POLICY BOARD OF THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION TO ORDER AND MAKE A NOTE

[1. Call to Order.]

SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE, JUST GET MY ATTENTION.

THIS THE MEETING ITSELF IS FAIRLY QUICK, AND THEN WE'LL BE FOLLOWED WITH A WORKSHOP THAT WILL BE TECHNICALLY PART OF THE MEETING, BUT THAT'S THE BULK OF OUR TIME TODAY. WE DO HAVE FOOD PREPARED THAT'S IN THE BACK.

AS SOON AS WE'RE THROUGH WITH THE THE POLICY BOARD SECTION OF THE MEETING, WE'LL TAKE A BREAK TO GET FOOD BEFORE THE WORKSHOP BEGINS, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE WORKSHOP. SO THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER ONE, ITEM NUMBER TWO CONSIDERATION.

[2. Consideration and Take Action on the minutes of the April 16, 2024 meeting.]

WE HAVE A COPY OF THE MINUTES IN OUR PACKET.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

DISCUSSION AND REVIEW OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

[3. Discussion and review of transportation projects.]

WHO'S DOING THE TECH STOCK PRESENTATION FOR US? THE CITY'S FIRST. AND WE'LL COME UP.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO CITY PROJECTS.

SURE. I WILL TAKE THAT ON, SIR.

OKAY, THANKS. WE HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN SUMMERTIME.

AND SO WE'VE GOT MANY, MANY PROJECTS THAT WE'RE JUST BUTTONING UP AND SEVERAL OTHERS THAT WE ARE GETTING READY TO GET STARTED.

SO THE HONEYBEE ALIGNMENT, THE FIRST ONE THERE, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH AND HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THESE.

IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ON ANY I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.

HONEYBEE REALIGNMENT THAT WAS UP NEAR FORT PHANTOM.

AND WE ARE JUST BUTTONING THAT ONE UP.

WE'RE WAITING TO DO THE SEEDING TO WHERE IT'S NOT SO HOT, SO THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME SUCCESS WITH THAT SEEDING.

BUT EVERYTHING ELSE ON THAT PROJECT IS PRETTY MUCH COMPLETE.

MAPLE FROM CHERRY HILLS TO LUKE 322.

WE ARE CONTINUING THE PAVING ON THAT.

THE FINAL SURFACE IS GOING DOWN BETWEEN CHERRY HILLS UP TO HARDISON, WHERE IT CHANGES OVER TO CONCRETE.

WE STILL HAVE ABOUT A MONTH TO TWO MONTHS OF THAT CONCRETE WORK BETWEEN ARTISAN UP TO DULUTH.

SO THOSE ARE PROGRESSING.

FIVE POINTS ROADWAY THAT'S OUT IN THE FIVE.

THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

WE'RE FINISHING THAT ONE UP.

SHOULD BE NEXT WEEK.

THE FINAL PAVING GOING DOWN THERE.

14TH STREET. WALKABILITY.

THAT'S A TXDOT SPONSORED PROJECT.

WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH ONE OF THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES THAT WE ARE OVERCOMING AND SHOULD BE WORK CONTINUING ON PROGRESS ON THAT PROJECT.

27 SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS FROM TREADWAY TO TREADWAY TO CATCLAW.

THIS IS IMPROVING SOME OF THE SIGNALS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.

BETWEEN THOSE TWO LIMITS.

WE'RE LOOKING WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ORDERING ALL OF THE MATERIALS SHOULD BE OCTOBER.

NOVEMBER FOR GETTING STARTED ON THAT PROJECT.

SIMILAR TO THE ANTHONY AND MEMORIAL TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WE ARE PUTTING A FOUR WAY TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT INTERSECTION TO IMPROVE SAFETY IN THE AREA, AS WELL AS CREATING A CORRIDOR ALONG ANTHONY FROM FAIRWAY OAKS ALL THE WAY TO 8384.

THAT WILL ALL BE THE SIGNALS WILL BE TIMED TO CREATE A CORRIDOR AT THAT LOCATION.

WORK ZONE 23. THAT'S FAIRWAY OAKS HAS COMPLETED.

WE'RE JUST BUTTONING UP SOME OF THE CLEANUPS ON IT.

AND THE OTHER WORK ZONE.

PASADENA HEIGHTS IN 60 WE ARE PROGRESSING THROUGH.

THAT SHOULD BE DONE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS ON THAT ONE.

SO THOSE ARE OUR ACTIVE PROJECTS.

SOME IN THE WORKS THAT ARE COMING.

THE WORK ZONE, F-10A AND CORSICANA, I BELIEVE BOTH BIDS WERE RECEIVED TODAY ON THOSE TWO.

AND THEN THE NORTH 18TH AND SOUTH SEVENTH.

WE HAVE PRE BIDS TODAY FOR THOSE TWO PROJECTS.

FUTURE PROJECTS.

ANY QUESTIONS SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAX.

SO YEAH.

SO YEAH I CAN GO OVER.

I'LL, I'LL FILL IN FOR BRYCE AND GO OVER TEXTILES PROJECTS.

THEY WANT TO KNOW ON OUR ON THE.

I'M TRYING TO SEE WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN.

YEAH. SO ON THE SCREEN AND THE THE PROJECTS HIGHLIGHTED IN IN RED AND THE RED HIGHLIGHTS ARE PROJECTS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

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THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE MPO FUNDS ON THEM OR PLANNED FOR THEM.

SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT JUST FOR THE GROUP TO KNOW WHERE SOME OF THE SOME OF THE FUNDS FROM THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO START UP ON THE MAP OF THE RED HIGHLIGHTED NUMBER NUMBER NINE, RIGHT UP AT THE NORTH NORTH PART OF THE OF THE OF THE MAP.

AND THAT'S PROJECTS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S THE FORT PHANTOM DAM UP THERE.

MOVING ALONG WITH THAT QUITE A BIT.

THEY'VE PRETTY MUCH GOT THE DECK OR THE DECK POURED ON THE BRIDGE.

REALLY? THAT PROJECT IS MOVING ALONG REALLY WELL.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE COMPLETE.

IT'S AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, AND WE'RE MOVING ON THAT.

IF YOU COME DOWN OFF OF THAT, THAT PROJECT AND HOW THAT RED LINE KEEPS GOING DOWN ON 1082.

THAT'S A PROJECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO OVERLAY THAT ROAD AND THEN ALSO REBUILD THE SPILLWAY.

AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO START ON THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

THEY'RE GOING TO START TEARING OUT THE CONCRETE PAVING WHERE THE OLD SPILLWAY IS AND AND PUT THAT PUT THAT BACK.

SO I'LL KEEP GOING A LITTLE BIT SOUTH FROM THERE.

I'LL LOOK AT REALLY KIND OF THAT CLUSTER OF PROJECTS, PROJECT SEVEN AND, AND EIGHT.

RIGHT IN THERE. THAT'S THAT'S THE LANDFILL ROAD OVERPASS PROJECT.

IT DID JUST RECENTLY LET.

AND SO THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD, GOOD PROJECT FOR US.

I'M FILLING IN FOR YOU, BRYCE.

I'M SORRY.

SO BUT BUT THAT THAT WAS A GOOD DID DID CAME IN RIGHT, RIGHT WHERE WE HAD ESTIMATED.

SO WE WERE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

AND THEY'RE PROJECTING TO START AROUND DECEMBER.

AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PROJECT FOR US.

A COUPLE OTHER PROJECTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THAT JUST SPEAK TO IS PROJECT NUMBER FOUR, AND I'LL LET BRYCE HERE TAKE OVER.

BUT THAT'S BUFFALO GAP ROAD AND THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.

IT'S GOT THE STAR. IT'S GOT MPO FUNDS IN IT AS WELL.

AND SO BRYCE I'LL LET YOU TAKE OVER AND GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT PROJECT.

ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, APOLOGIES TO THE BOARD AND MEMBERS OF THE PTAC BEING LATE.

RECORD. BRYCE TURRENTINE, ABILENE AREA ENGINEER.

MY PRIVILEGE TO TRY TO CARRY ON WITH THE REPORT FOR TEX DOT.

AND I SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALREADY COVERED.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH WHAT I HAD.

AND IF YOU WE TALKED ABOUT THE 1082 AND THE LANDFILL ROAD PROJECT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS COVERED.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THOSE IN THE KNOW, THERE'S SOME THAT DROPPED OFF THE LIST.

PROUD TO SAY WE GOT THOSE TO A COMPLETION POINT.

SOME OF THOSE ARE THE I-20 RESURFACE THAT WAS HERE IN TOWN.

US 277 SOUTH OF VIEW.

AND THE EAST SOUTH SEVENTH BRIDGE AT CEDAR CREEK.

THAT ONE IS NOW COMPLETE AND OPEN TO THE TRAFFIC.

AND ALSO THE CHEVRON PROJECTS THAT ARE ON NORTH 10TH STREET AND REBECCA LANE.

THOSE ALL DROPPED OFF THE LIST THERE AT VARIOUS STAGES OF CLOSING OUT THOSE PROJECTS.

THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION THAT I WAS GOING TO GO OVER CITES TWO, SIX AND 11.

THOSE ARE OUR MEDIUM BARRIER PROJECTS.

OUR SIZE MOSTLY BEEN WORKING NORTH OF TOWN NOW, GETTING CLOSE TO TOWN AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SIGNS GO UP.

THEY'RE GOING TO START WORKING ON THE CONCRETE BARRIERS ON LOOP 322 NORTH OF LYTLE CREEK, UP TO 320 UP TO I-20, AND THEN ALSO ON WINTERS FREEWAY NORTH OF AMBLER.

SITE THREE IS OUR OTHER I-20 MILL AND OVERLAY PROJECT OUT PAST TY TO THE WEST.

THERE ARE ABOUT TWO THIRDS DONE.

THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETING THAT PROJECT IN A FEW MONTHS.

SITE FOUR.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALREADY TALKED ABOUT BUFFALO GAP ROAD.

IT HAS MPO MONEY ON IT.

THEY'RE ABOUT 80% DONE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLOSING CHIMNEY ROCK WEST OF BUFFALO GAP ROAD NEXT WEEK.

THAT'LL BE SO THEY CAN INSTALL STORM SEWER ACROSS THE ROAD AND GET THE CONCRETE PAVING FOR THAT INTERSECTION COMPLETED UP.

THAT'LL PROBABLY TAKE THEM 3 TO 4 WEEKS TO GET THAT WORK DONE.

SO CHIMNEY ROCK WILL HAVE A DETOUR THROUGH WEST CHESTER, WHICH WEST CHESTER IS CLOSED RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WILL BE OPEN UP BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEK.

SO THEN SITE NINE SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALREADY TALKED ABOUT FM 1082 HAS GOT MPO MONEY ON IT.

WE POURED THE SLAB RECENTLY, STILL WORKING ON ALL THE EXCAVATIONS.

THAT JOB IS GOING PRETTY WELL.

AND THEN SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE JOBS THAT ALREADY LED.

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LUKE 322 THE IT'S PROJECT HAS NOW LET IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE A FEW MONTHS BEFORE WE START THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO ORDER ALL THE MATERIALS AND THOSE ARE LONG LEAD ITEMS. AND THEN SIZE SEVEN AND EIGHT THE NEW OVERPASS AND INTERCHANGE WITH LANDFILL ROAD, THAT'S ALSO GOT MPO MONEY ON IT.

THAT'S MY CONSTRUCTION UPDATE FOR THE PLANNED PROJECTS.

SOME OF THOSE DROPPED OFF AND MOVED INTO CURRENT CONSTRUCTION.

MOST OF THE REST OF THEM ARE CARRYOVER FROM WHAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.

I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE NEW ONES.

SITE THREE IS SOME PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE ON 14TH STREET FROM PIONEER TO BARROW.

THAT ONE IS NEW TO THE MAP.

SITE SEVEN IS ALSO BIKE AND PED IMPROVEMENTS ON FM 3438 BY THE AIR BASE.

THAT'S NEW TO THE MAP.

AND THEN SITE TEN, WHICH IS ON ODENTON ROAD.

THAT'S A NEW SIDEWALK PROJECT THAT'S NEW TO THE MAP.

SO THOSE ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED AND ARE IN THE WORKS FOR GETTING PROJECTS PUT TOGETHER.

SEE, SITE 11 CONTINUES TO GET THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DONE ON IT.

IT'S GOT MPO MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE JUDGE ELY BOULEVARD OVERPASS PROJECT.

THAT ONE KEEPS TURNING TOWARDS COMPLETION OF THE DESIGN SO WE CAN LET IT.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

AGAIN, APOLOGIES FOR BEING LATE.

ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU BRYCE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THEN AN UPDATE ON CITY LINKS.

ALL RIGHT. THE GRANT THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE MULTI-MODAL FEASIBILITY STUDY IS WRAPPING UP AT THE END OF AUGUST, SO AUGUST 31ST.

GRANT DOES. AND THEN WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A DRAFT CONCEPT OF THE OUTLAY OF THE FOOTPRINT THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT IN THE AREA.

IT'S STILL A ROUGH ROUGH DRAFT ON THAT.

YEAH. FACILITY REPAIRS WHERE I BELIEVE THEY HAVE GONE IN AND AWARDED THIS TO ALL STAR PLUMBING.

IT IS BASICALLY REPAIRS TO THE BATHROOMS FOR THE EMPLOYEES, THE WOMEN'S AND MEN'S.

THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME REPAIRS.

SOME PLUMBING ISSUES HAD TO BE REDONE.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO.

ROUGHLY NOT COMPLETELY REMODEL A LITTLE BIT OF THE BATHROOM.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE HOPING THAT WILL GET STARTED IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

THE PARKING LOT PROJECT THERE ON SOUTH THIRD AND ELM, THERE'S THAT LOT.

THERE'S TWO DUPLEX.

I THINK THEY'RE JUST SMALL HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT BEHIND THAT.

BUT THERE'S A LOT THERE THAT IT'S GRASSED OVER RIGHT NOW.

WE FINALLY HAVE EVERYTHING READY.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BIDS FOR THE PROJECT TO BE ABLE.

WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN APPROVED BY THE CITY, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT INTO A PARKING LOT FOR OUR VANS, NOT THE BIG BUSSES.

THE BUSSES WILL STAY WHERE THEY'RE AT.

THAT'S DIRECTLY BEHIND THE SHOP, BUT IT'LL BE FENCED IN WITH THE LIGHTING AND EVERYTHING TO THE TO THE SPECS THAT WERE AGREED UPON WITH THE CITY.

SO WE WERE HOPING MAYBE WE COULD GET THAT ALL BIDDED OUT AND HAVE IT READY TO GO FOR SEPTEMBER.

BUT TIME IS NOT PLAYING ON OUR SIDE, SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

THE EXHAUST FAN PROJECT HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR A WHILE.

WE HAD IT ALL BID INFLATION PRICES WENT UP.

IT WENT OUTSIDE THE ALLOTTED AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAD FOR THE GRANT, SO WE HAD TO SCRAP IT AND START ALL OVER AGAIN.

SO WE DO HAVE THREE BIDS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT.

SO THAT'S GOING TO PUT THE EXHAUST FANS IN THE SHOP IS CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY SYSTEM IN PLACE.

IT'S YOU OPEN THE DOORS AND THE WIND TAKES EVERYTHING WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE IT.

YOU CAN'T CLOSE IT UP BECAUSE IT JUST GETS UNBEARABLE IN THERE AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

GREAT. THANKS, LAURA.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.

[4. Discussion and review of reports:  Financial Status  Operation Report  Tasks  Training Sessions  Meetings  Director’s Report  Work Tasks  MPO Staffing  MPO Planning Area Boundary Update  Regional Safety Plan Update  MTP FYs 2025-2050 Timeline Review  FYs 2025-2028 Transportation Improvement Program (TIP)  Year-end Report – FY 2023 Annual Listing of Obligated Projects (ALOP)]

ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS A FINANCIAL STATUS.

SO WE ARE THROUGH JUNE.

I'M SHOWING ON THE BILLINGS AND WE HAVE EXPENDED WE HAVE ALL WE HAVE AUTHORIZED.

WHAT? YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT IN APRIL WE GOT OUR OTHER ALSO.

AUTHORIZATION FOR 220 802 33.

SO THAT BRINGS OUR TOTAL AUTHORIZATION UP TO 293 9393.

OUR EXPENDITURE TO DATE IS 161 FIVE 6715.

THE REMAINING BALANCE IS 128, 826, 78.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR CARRYOVER.

WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT.

AND A SMALL AMOUNT OF THE PL DOLLARS ARE STILL OUT THERE.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET ANOTHER WORK ORDER SOON.

OKAY. THE OPERATION REPORT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

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THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON.

THE BOUNDARY.

THE INFIELD BOUNDARY STUFF.

I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT LATER, BUT IT IS AT A HEAD START RIGHT NOW WAITING TO GO ON TO THE GOVERNOR.

WE'VE DONE QUITE A FEW MAPS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH RESOURCE DATA INC.

TO GET ON BOARD.

THEY'RE STILL NOT ON BOARD, BUT WE HOPE HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE WEEK WE'LL HAVE THEM ON BOARD WHERE THEY'LL HELP US WITH SOME OF THE GIS WORK.

WE DID THE BUDGET INFORMATION, ALL THAT WAS SUBMITTED, AND THEN WE HAD SOME GREAT COLLABORATION WITH DOING A RIDE TO WORK AND A BIKE TO WORK AND A RIDE OF SILENCE.

SO THOSE ARE THE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE OPERATIONS.

THE FULL REPORT IS ABOUT THREE PAGES IN YOUR DOCUMENT, SO I WON'T GO OVER ALL THAT.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL OR THE OPERATION REPORT.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

STAFFING. WE'RE STILL DOWN A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER.

THE BOUNDARY UPDATE, AS I SAID, IS WAITING.

IT'S AT TECH STOCKS OFFICES, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT IT GETS TO THE GOVERNOR SO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT FOR OUR LONG RANGE PLANNING EFFORTS.

BUT WE'RE WE'RE IN A WAITING PATTERN RIGHT NOW.

THE REGIONAL SAFETY PLAN UPDATE.

SO WE WE ARE STILL SORT OF WAITING ON THAT TO WE WERE GOING TO SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.

THE END OF AUGUST.

AND THEN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TILL THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AT SEPTEMBER AT THE TEXTILE PLANNING CONFERENCE BECAUSE MOST OF THE NPOS WILL BE THERE, AND SO IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO DO IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

THE MTP UPDATE, JUST THE TIMELINE.

WE HAVE BILL FRAWLEY HERE WITH HUBERT ZOLLARS, AND HE'S GOING TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO COVER THAT.

THE TIP WE HAD TO DO SOME ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENTS TO IT.

WE GOT ALL THAT UPLOADED.

THIS IS FOR THE 2025 2028 TIP.

SO IT'S BEEN ENTERED INTO THE ESTEP.

EVERYTHING'S READY TO GO AND WE SHOULD BE GETTING APPROVAL ON THAT HOPEFULLY VERY SOON.

THE ANNUAL LISTING OF OBLIGATED PROJECTS.

WE ARE STILL WAITING ON THE 2023 INFORMATION.

THEY SENT SOME INFORMATION OUT ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR 2022, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY DONE.

SO WE SUBMITTED OUR FEDERAL HIGHWAY APPROVAL LETTER TO THEM.

AND SO WE SHOULD BE GOOD ON THAT.

WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE THE CURRENT YEAR.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA.

OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO MAKE COMMENTS ON NPO ISSUES.

IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON NPO ISSUES, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE.

SEEING NO ONE GETTING UP, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.

OPPORTUNITY FOR BOARD MEMBERS, TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS OR NPO STAFF TO RECOMMEND TOPICS FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION OR ACTION.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ON AN AGENDA AT A FUTURE MEETING? ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE WORKSHOP, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF RECESS SO THAT WE CAN GET FOOD OUT OF THE KITCHEN.

ALISA, DO YOU HAVE ANY DIRECTION FOR US ON LIKE ORDER TO GO? YES. SO WE HAVE TEA OUT HERE ON THE TABLE OUTSIDE.

SO THERE'S TEA AND WATER.

THERE'S WATER IN THE COOLER BY THE DOOR.

RIGHT THERE BY THE KITCHEN.

YOU'LL GRAB YOUR PLATE AND THEN JUST GO AROUND IN A CIRCLE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GO OPEN EVERYTHING UP FOR EVERYONE BUT THE TEA AND EVERYTHING IS ON THE OUTSIDE.

GREAT. OKAY. AND WE HAVE DESSERTS.

WE'LL TAKE A BRIEF RECESS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO RESUME THE MEETING SO WE CAN START THE WORKSHOP.

[7. Workshop of the Transportation Policy Board and Technical Advisory Committee ‾ Introductions and Workshop Overview ‾ Travel Demand Model (Presentation by Tammye Fontenot and Geena Maskey – TxDOT) ‾ TxDOT Project Management (Presentation by Michael Haithcock – TxDOT) ‾ FYs 2025-2050 Metropolitan Transportation Plan (MTP) and Project Discussion (Presentation by Bill Frawley – Huitt-Zollars, Inc.) ‾ Workshop Wrap-up]

ENJOY YOUR FOOD, BUT WE'LL GET INTO THE PRESENTATIONS AS OUR WORKSHOP BEGINS.

LISA. OKAY, SO THE FIRST STEP IS JUST INTRODUCTIONS AND WORKSHOP OVERVIEW.

INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HERE AND I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY, IF I MAY, TO INTRODUCE SOME OF THEM.

BUT WE HAVE FEDERAL HIGHWAYS HERE CRYSTAL WESTRUP.

AND I'M GOING TO MESS IT UP.

BABATUNDE, YOUR LAST NAME, BOBO TO BOBO IS HERE.

AND THEN WE HAVE JEANNIE.

SHE IS WITH TUSCOLA.

SO THEY'RE ONE OF THEM THAT OUR PARTNERS COMING IN.

AND I THINK COUNCILWOMAN IS IN THE BACK.

THERE SHE IS FROM THE CITY OF LORNE.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JEANNIE AND GINA.

THANK YOU. AND TAMMY.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION ON THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.

AND THEN BILL FRAWLEY IS HERE AND SHANNON IS HERE WITH TED STOTT.

SHE IS OUR TED STOTT REPRESENTATIVE.

AND MR. RICE, EVERYBODY KNOWS HIM.

AND HOPEFULLY I DIDN'T MISS ANYBODY.

OH, BRIAN. SORRY.

BRIAN IS HERE ALSO.

AND HE IS FROM ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SORRY. MERKEL.

YES, FROM MERKEL.

AND SO HE WILL ALSO BE JOINING OUR TAC AS SOON AS WE GET THAT DESIGNATION.

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AND Y'ALL ARE FIRST UP.

AND Y'ALL HAVE THE SLIDE CONTROL HERE.

GREAT. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

HI. THANK YOU. HELLO. MY NAME IS TAMMY FONTANELLA AND I AM THE TPP PROGRAM MANAGER FOR TXDOT.

AND I'M HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE EVA MASKEY.

AND WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF TRAVEL DEMAND MODELING, AND ALSO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT THE ABILENE 2050.

FORECAST MODEL THAT WAS DELIVERED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE PLAN ON COVERING.

I'M GOING TO PROVIDE THE OVERVIEW.

I'M GOING TO BE TASKED WITH PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW.

THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO GINA.

AND SHE WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE OF THE OUTPUTS AND THE MODEL APPLICATION.

MODEL APPLICATION OUTPUTS.

WHAT IS A TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL? A TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL IS A MATHEMATICAL TOOL THAT USES DATA TO PREDICT, TO PREDICT HOW TRAVEL WILL OCCUR IN THE FUTURE.

TEAMS USE TRAVEL BEHAVIOR, TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS, AND SOCIO ECONOMIC DATA TO HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE WHERE WILL PEOPLE TRAVEL? WHEN WILL PEOPLE TRAVEL? HOW WILL PEOPLE TRAVEL AND WHICH ROUTE THEY WILL TAKE? TRAVEL DEMAND MODELING TAKES.

WE DEVELOPED MODELS IN 3 TO 4 STEPS.

THE FIRST STEP IS TRIP GENERATION, WHERE WE TAKE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ZONES AND DETERMINE WHAT TRIPS, HOW TRIPS ARE GENERATED AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING. THAT WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHO'S TRAVELING IN THIS STEP? TRIP DISTRIBUTION IS WHEN WE ESTIMATE TRIPS BETWEEN THE ZONES.

SO WHICH OH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CLICK THAT.

CAN I GO BACK? YEAH, JUST ROLL IT.

IT SHOULD GO BACK. OKAY.

THANK YOU. TRIP DISTRIBUTION IS HOW TRIPS OCCUR BETWEEN THE ZONES.

SO WHERE ARE THE TRIPS GOING TO? MORE CHOICE MEANS IT ALLOWS US TO DETERMINE WHAT ROUTE I MEAN BY WHAT MEANS THE TRIPS ARE TAKEN.

JUST NOTE THAT MOST TIMES URBAN AREAS, LARGER URBAN AREAS ONLY USE THIS STEP, AND THEY HAVE A MORE ROBUST TRANSIT SYSTEM WHERE THEY HAVE ON BOARD SURVEYS. SO MOST GENERALLY, AND AS IT OCCURS WITH ABILENE, THERE ARE ONLY THREE STEPS IN THIS IN THIS MODEL AND WHERE WE ONLY ESTIMATE AUTO AND TRIP, I MEAN AUTO AND TRUCK TRIPS.

THE LAST THE LAST STEP IS TRIP ASSIGNMENT AND THEN ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS HOW? BY WHICH LINK OR BY WHICH ROUTE ARE THE TRIPS TAKEN BETWEEN THE ZONES? THIS IS THE ULTIMATE STEP, AND EACH LINK IN A NETWORK WILL BE ASSIGNED AN ESTIMATE OF TRIPS THAT IS TRAVELED ALONG THAT LINK.

THE IMPORTANCE OF A TDM.

A TDM IS AN INVALUABLE TRANSPORTATION TOOL THAT IS USED TO ESTIMATE AND FORECAST TRAFFIC FLOWS NEEDED TO EVALUATE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS, PROJECTS AND POLICIES.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT EVERY MPO IN TEXAS HAS A TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.

THE BAD NEWS IS, IS THAT ONLY ABOUT A HALF OF THEM FULLY TAKE THE FULL BENEFIT OF HAVING THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.

SOME OF THE BENEFITS INCLUDES WE SUPPORT MTP DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SO NOW.

I BELIEVE YOUR ENTITY IS DUE IN DECEMBER.

SO THIS IS A GREAT TOOL THAT ALLOW YOU TO EVALUATE YOUR PROJECTS AND THEN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.

AS IN, THE NEXT BENEFIT LISTED IS TO EVALUATE YOUR SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS.

YOU WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT YOUR NETWORK AND SEE WHERE YOUR CONGESTION CURRENTLY IS AND WHERE YOUR CONGESTION CONGESTION WILL BE IN FUTURE FORECAST YEARS, AND IT WILL ALLOW YOU TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT YOUR PROJECTS AND WITHOUT BIAS.

IT ALSO ALLOWS YOU TO LOOK AT YOUR IDENTIFY YOUR SYSTEM DEFICIENCIES AND YOUR YOUR SYSTEM DEFICIENCIES AND WHERE YOUR IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD LIE.

ANOTHER GREAT BENEFIT IS THE FACT THAT YOU CAN CONDUCT ALTERNATIVE AND SCENARIO ANALYSIS.

SO IF YOU HAVE COMPETING PROJECTS, YOU CAN CODE THESE PROJECTS INTO YOUR NETWORK AND THEN LOOK AT THE OUTPUTS, SEE WHICH ONE HAS THE BEST EFFECT ON YOUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, SO THAT YOU CAN DETERMINE WHICH PROJECT I GUESS WILL GIVE YOU THE MOST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY YOU WANT TO IMPROVE YOUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.

AND BY PERFORMING THESE ANALYSIS, YOU'LL HAVE THAT ABILITY.

AND THEN YOU ALSO MORE PREVALENT TO DISTRICTS.

IT GIVES YOU THE THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP DESIGN LEVEL OR OPERATIONAL LEVEL ANALYSIS.

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THE FIRST IS A FORECAST ONLY, WHICH IS WHAT WE DEVELOPED FOR ABILENE FOR THE 2050 MODEL.

AND THAT WAS DUE TO THE FACT THAT 20 2020 COUNTS WERE NOT GOOD DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.

SO IT WAS A DECISION WAS MADE THAT WE WOULD ONLY ADD A 2050 FORECAST TO YOUR EXISTING 2015 2045 MODEL.

SO YOU YOUR EXISTING APPROVED MODEL WILL REMAIN THE SAME.

AND THE ONLY STEP THAT WE DID WAS ADD A 2050 FORECAST MODEL, WHICH WILL ALLOW YOU TO EVALUATE PROJECTS FOR YOUR 2050 MTP.

THE NEXT MODEL TYPE IS A MODEL REFRESH.

THIS IS A MODEL WHERE WE WILL DEVELOP A NEW BASE YEAR SO THAT WE CAN VALIDATE IT AGAINST CURRENT COUNTS, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE FOR THE FORECAST MODEL HERE IN ABILENE. AND IT WILL ALSO DEVELOP A NEW FORECAST YEAR MODEL AS WELL.

THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS MODEL IS AGAIN THAT YOU HAVE COUNTS TO VALIDATE A NEW BASE.

YOU'RE ON THE FINAL MODEL TYPE AND IT'S MORE THE MOST COMPLEX MODEL TYPE IS THE MODEL CALIBRATION.

AND THIS IS WHEN WE DEVELOP NEW TRIPLETS.

SO DID ALL OF YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE 2021 SURVEYS TRANSPORTATION SURVEY THAT WAS COLLECTED? THAT DATA IS VERY IMPORTANT RIGHT.

THAT'S HOW WE USE WE USE THAT DATA TO DEVELOP TRIP RATES AND THAT WILL HELP US, I MEAN, CALIBRATE A MODEL BASED ON THE TRIP RATES THAT WERE DETERMINED OR CALCULATED BASED ON YOUR SURVEYS.

SO THIS IS THE LAST TYPE OF MODEL.

AND THIS IS OUR NEXT MODEL THAT WE WILL BE DEVELOPING FOR ABILENE.

BECAUSE WE DO HAVE NEW SURVEY DATA WE CAN GENERATE NEW TRIP RATES.

AND SO YOUR NEXT 2055 MODEL WILL ACTUALLY BE A MODEL CALIBRATION.

ROLES AND POSSIBILITIES.

PGP TEXT DOT.

WE TAKE PRIDE IN OFFERING THIS AS A SERVICE TO THE NPOS, RIGHT? WE. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BENEFIT FOR US.

THE PRIMARY BENEFACTOR ARE THE NPOS.

WE AND THEREFORE WE WE WOULD LIKE TO WE ENJOY A COLLABORATIVE COOPERATIVE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE NPO.

ALISA IS VERY HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY ATTENTIVE TO YOUR HELP FOR SURE.

RIGHT. AND SHE DOES NEED SOME HELP FOR SURE.

BUT WE WE WORK WITH HER CLOSELY TO HELP DEVELOP THE MODELS BECAUSE IT IS NOT A TEXTILE MODEL.

IT IS A ABILENE MPO MODEL.

SO THE FIRST RESPONSIBILITY IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS IN THE NETWORK.

AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT'S A VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE MODEL.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD DEMOGRAPHICS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GREAT NETWORK CODING, THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A GOOD MODEL.

WE CAN ONLY WORK WITH THE INFORMATION THAT THE MPO HELPS TO HELPS TO DEVELOP AND DEFINITELY APPROVE.

RIGHT. IT'S TYPICALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE MPO TO DEVELOP THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND THE NETWORK.

AND THEN WE TAKE WE WILL WE WILL HELP THEM IN LIKE REVIEWING IT TO MAKE SURE IT'S LOGICAL.

WE PROVIDE THE CONTROL TOTAL MEMO, WHICH COMES FROM THE FROM THE STATE DEMOGRAPHER'S OFFICE AT UTSA.

AND THEN WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN AGREEANCE THAT IT MAKES SENSE.

BUT WE RELY ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THE MPO, TO REALLY LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE REPRESENTATIVE OF YOUR LOCAL AREA, YOUR LOCAL, BASED ON YOUR LOCAL KNOWLEDGE. SO WE TAKE THAT DEMOGRAPHICS AND WE TAKE THAT NETWORK TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE ROADS ARE REPRESENTED ACCURATELY.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER PART THAT THE MPO IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR.

BUT TPP PROVIDES 100% SUPPORT ON DEVELOPING DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE ASPECTS OF THE MODEL.

AND THEN WE BUILD IT BASED ON WE BUILD THE MODEL BASED ON THOSE INPUTS FROM THE MPO AND THE DISTRICT.

WE ALSO REQUEST SUPPORT FROM THE DISTRICT BECAUSE AS YOU AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, THE DISTRICT IS MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT YOUR PROJECTS AND WE NEED TO KNOW IN ORDER FOR THE NETWORK TO REPRESENT ACCURATELY REPRESENT YOUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, THEN WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW EXISTING CONDITIONS ON YOUR ROADS AND PROPOSE AND PROJECTS AND HAVE THE SPECIFICS OF PROJECTS.

AND THEN ONCE YOU HAVE THE MPO AND ONCE YOU HAVE, EXCUSE ME, ONCE YOU HAVE THE MODEL, THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE ABILITY TO ANALYZE YOUR DATA AND TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF A MODEL. I'M GOING TO TURN THE MIC OVER TO GINA, AND SHE'S GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAILS ABOUT THESE DEMOGRAPHICS AND THE NETWORKS, AND THEN THE OUTPUTS OF YOUR 2050 MODEL.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST HOLD THEM AND WE'LL BE SURE TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU TAMMY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

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I'M THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR STATEWIDE ANALYSIS MODEL, THE STATEWIDE MODEL.

BUT HERE I'M IN LIKE I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M THE MODEL AREA MANAGER FOR ABILENE AND I WORK FOR TXDOT, TXDOT.

SO TAMMY TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT MODELING STEPS IN DIFFERENT LIKE TRIP GENERATION DISTRIBUTION.

AND SO THERE ARE LIKE MANY INPUT LIKE ANY OTHER MODEL, TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL ALSO REQUIRES DIFFERENT INPUT DATA.

AND THEN THE THREE CRITICAL MAIN MAJOR DATA IS THE DEMOGRAPHICS THE NETWORK AND THEN THE TRAVEL SURVEY DATA.

SO DEMOGRAPHIC DATA INCLUDES LIKE HOUSEHOLDS, HOUSEHOLD INCOME SOCIOECONOMIC DATA LIKE EMPLOYMENT HOUSEHOLD SIZE AND THOSE THINGS. AND THEN THE ROADWAY DATA INCLUDES LIKE ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION, NUMBER OF LANES, THE TYPE OF THE ROAD AND THE SURVEY DATA IS THE THE THE TRAVEL SURVEY DATA THAT WE COLLECT EVERY FIVE YEARS.

SO, SO.

SO ALL THIS INPUT DATA IS ENTERED INTO THE TRAVEL LIKE THE COMPUTER MODEL TO GET THE OUTPUT.

AND IN THIS CASE THE OUTPUT IS THE IS THE MODEL TRAFFIC ESTIMATES.

SO MODEL TRAFFIC TRAFFIC ESTIMATES WILL BE WE HAVE LIKE WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MODEL AND DIFFERENT YEARS OF MODEL.

SO BASE YEAR MODEL IS CALIBRATED WITH THE OBSERVED COUNTS LIKE TXDOT COLLECTS COUNT FOR EVERY COLLECTS THE ANNUAL COUNTS SATURATION COUNT AND OTHER CLASSIFICATION COUNTS.

AS WE TALKED IN OUR PREVIOUS SLIDES, WE WE TAKE LOTS OF EFFORT, AND IT TAKES LOTS OF EFFORT TO CREATE A GOOD DEMOGRAPHIC DATA.

AND TAMMY ALSO MENTIONED LIKE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU CREATE A REALLY GOOD INPUT DATA TO GET A GOOD OUTPUT.

LIKE, AS THEY SAID, LIKE GARBAGE IN AND GARBAGE OUT.

SO IT'S VERY CRUCIAL PART.

AND THE UTSA DEVELOPS THE UTSA, THE DEMOGRAPHER'S OFFICE DEVELOPS THE CONTROL TOTAL MEMO, AND THEN MPOS INPUT HELPS TO CREATE THE LOCAL WITH THE LOCAL LOCAL KNOWLEDGE IS WE ARE ABLE TO DISAGGREGATE THAT CONTROL TOTAL TO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ZONES.

SO IT IS IMPORTANT THE HOUSEHOLDS ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE TRIP RATES AS IT'S A FUNCTION.

TRIP RATES ARE IS THE THE HOUSEHOLD SIZE AND INCOME IS IS THE PARAMETERS FOR THE FOR THE IS THE FUNCTION FUNCTION FOR THE TRIP RATES.

SO. AS TAMMY MENTIONED IN OUR PREVIOUS SLIDES, THAT THERE IS A TRIP GENERATION SPACE IN THE MODEL, WHICH IS WHICH IS THE DEMAND THE POPULATION HOUSEHOLD CREATES WHEREAS THE EMPLOYMENT IS THE ONE THAT ATTRACTS THE THOSE TRIPS.

FOR ABILENE MPO DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BASE YEAR.

THE DATA EXCEL DATA WAS USED AS A STARTING POINT TO DISAGGREGATE THIS EMPLOYMENT DATA AND THEN WITH THE LOCAL KNOWLEDGE OF MPO WITH ALL THE INPUT, WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DIFFERENT THAT DISAGGREGATED TO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ZONES.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TYPES OF TRIPS.

TRIPS ARE. TRIPS ARE.

TRIP RATES ARE DEPENDENT ON THE TYPE OF THE EMPLOYMENT.

LIKE IS IT A SHOPPING TRIP? IS IT A WORK TRIP OR IS IT A SCHOOL TRIP LIKE SO THOSE, THOSE ALL THOSE INFORMATIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR A TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.

AND IN THIS NEXT SLIDE YOU CAN SEE THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ZONES.

SO TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ZONES ARE, ARE ARE WHERE ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF THE SOCIO ECONOMIC DATA LIKE POPULATION EMPLOYMENT, HOUSEHOLD SIZES, INCOME, ALL OF THOSE ARE RECORDED.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE AREA LIKE RIGHT HERE.

THE AREA THAT YOU MIGHT KNOW.

YOU ALL KNOW IT'S THE FIRST STREET AND THEN TWO, SEVEN, SEVEN.

SO YOU CAN SEE LIKE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ZONES ARE KIND OF DRAWN IN BASED ON, BASED ON THE ATTRIBUTES LIKE IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T CROSS LIKE ROADWAY LIKE PHYSICAL BARRIERS, LIKE RIVERS OR ROADWAY AND, AND AND ALSO IT KIND OF IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE. SO IT'S KIND OF YOU CAN SEE IT OVER THERE.

RIGHT THERE. ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL IS THE ROADWAY NETWORKS.

THE THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION WILL HAVE THE ATTRIBUTES OF ROADWAYS, LIKE ROADWAYS CLASSIFICATION.

HOW WHAT'S THE POSTED SPEED? WHAT WHAT'S THE FUNCTIONAL TYPE? WHAT WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE AREA TYPE.

AND DIFFERENT INFORMATION LIKE THAT.

AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO CODE THIS NETWORK CORRECTLY TO GET THE WE HAVE A BETTER MODEL ACCURACY.

WITH THE WITH ALL THESE INPUTS.

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SO MODEL IS CONSIDERED VALIDATED WHEN WHEN THE OBSERVED THE ONE THAT IS THE KNOWN DATA IS MATCHES AROUND THREE 3% WITHIN THE 3% OF THE MODEL VOLUME.

SO I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT DESKTOP DOES COLLECT ANNUAL COUNTS, SATURATION COUNTS AND CLASSIFICATION COUNTS.

AND IN THIS SLIDE THIS IS THE VALIDATION RESULTS OF ABILENE'S BAYESIAN MODEL.

SO YOU CAN SEE LIKE IT'S CLASSIFIED BY THE AREA TYPE AND THE FUNCTIONAL CLASS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT HOW CLOSE THAT ALL THESE THE THE COUNTED VOLUMES COUNTED VOLUME IS MATCHING WITH THE MODEL VOLUME OR THE COUNTED VMT IS MATCHING WITH THE WITH THE OBSERVED VMT.

WITH THE MODEL BMT.

IN THIS ONE. THIS SLIDE, I WANTED TO SHOW HOW THE POPULATION GROWTH OCCURRED IN ABILENE FROM 2015 TO.

POPULATION GROWTH IS FORECASTED AT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ZONE FOR ABILENE IN LIKE THE LEFT SIDE SLIDE AND THEN THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGE IN EMPLOYMENT BY SECTOR.

AND THIS ONE IN THIS SLIDE WE CAN SEE LIKE WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE CHANGES THAT'S CODED IN THE NETWORK BETWEEN 2015 AND 20 2015 AND 2015. YOU CAN SEE LIKE THE HOW MUCH HOW MUCH.

THE CENTER LINE MILES AND THE LANE MILES CHANGED IN THIS ONE.

THE RED HIGHLIGHTS ARE THE ONE WHERE THE CAPACITY INCREASE IN CAPACITY WERE INCLUDED.

AND THIS ONE. THIS ONE HERE.

HERE IT SHOWS THE EXTERNAL TRIPS.

EXTERNAL TRIPS ARE EXTERNAL TRIPS ARE ARE THE TRIPS TRIPS THAT'S GENERATED FROM OUTSIDE THE MODEL AREA BOUNDARY.

AND, AND YOU CAN SEE, LIKE WE THE TABLE HAS THE LOCAL THROUGH TRAFFIC.

LOCAL TRAFFIC ARE THE ONES EXTERNAL LOCAL ARE THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES OUTSIDE OF THE MODEL AREA BOUNDARY, INSIDE THE MODEL AREA MPO REGION, AND THEN THROUGH TRAFFIC THAT GOES THROUGH THE THROUGH THE MPO BUT DOESN'T BUT GOES THROUGH IT BUT NOT INSIDE.

SO PASSING.

SO WE CAN SEE THAT THE TOTAL TOTAL EXTERNAL TRIPS INCREASED BY 52%.

AND THEN AND THEN THE INTERNAL TRIPS INCREASED BY 22%.

THIS ONE IS THE SLIDE WHERE I WANTED TO SHOW THE ONE OF THE RESULTS OF THE MODEL OUTPUT, AND THIS ONE IS SHOWING THE VOLUME CAPACITY RATIO FOR DIFFERENT ROAD NETWORK.

YOU CAN SEE LIKE THE RED, THE RED ONES ARE WHERE THERE IS LIKE THE HIGHER VOLUME CAPACITY, WHICH MEANS IT'S CONGESTED.

AND THE GREENER GREEN ONES ARE THE FREE FLOW.

SO GREEN IS GOOD AND LIKE RED IS OKAY.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE.

AND IN THIS ONE.

THIS ONE IS ONE OF THE OTHER LIKE OUTPUTS OF THE MODEL.

IN THIS YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF TRIPS INCREASE FROM 2015 AND IS FORECASTED TO INCREASE TO ABOUT LIKE 36%.

AND WHILE THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED VMT ALSO INCREASES AROUND THE SAME AMOUNT.

AND YOU CAN SEE ALSO THE HOW MUCH HOW MANY ROADWAY LINE LINE MILES WE ADDED AND HOW MANY CENTER MILES CENTER LINE MILES WE ADDED.

AND WE CAN ALSO HERE YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE POPULATION CHANGE THAT WAS FORECASTED, THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLD INCREASE THAT WAS FORECASTED AND SO FORTH.

THIS IS LIKE THE LAST SLIDE THAT I WANTED TO SHOW.

THIS ONE IS HOW THE MODEL INTERFACE LOOKS RIGHT NOW FOR THE ABILENE ABILENE MPO.

AND IN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU CAN SEE LIKE ALL THE MODEL OUTPUTS WITH FAIRLY RECENTLY WE ADDED THE HTML REPORT OUTPUT AS WELL SO THAT YOU DON'T NEED LIKE A TRAIN CAD SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE DATA BECAUSE LIKE THE MODEL IS BUILT IN A IN A TRAVEL DEMAND MODELING SOFTWARE.

BUT JUST, JUST IF YOU WANTED TO SEE IT, OH, IT DIDN'T TAKE IT.

YEAH. I DIDN'T CONNECT IT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE PREVIEW THAT IT'S EASY TO YOU.

YOU DON'T NEED TO RUN THE MODEL OR NEED LIKE A FANCY SOFTWARE TO LOOK AT THESE SUMMARIES SO YOU COULD GET LIKE A NETWORK SUMMARIES.

THAT WOULD BE THAT SOME OF THE TABLES THAT WE HAVE SEEN, YOU CAN JUST ACCESS FROM HERE.

ALL YOU NEED IS THIS HTML FILE.

THAT'S AND ALSO SIMILARLY TO THE DEMOGRAPHIC YOU CAN LOOK AT THE HOUSEHOLD DATAS.

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AND YOU CAN ALSO GET THE SUMMARY OTHER SUMMARY STATISTICS.

AND ALSO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE TRIP GENERATION HOW HOW HOW WELL WE ARE MATCHING WITH OUR KNOWN KNOWN DATA.

AND ALSO LIKE OTHER SUMMARIES.

AND WE CAN ALSO ACCESS LIKE THE TRAFFIC VALIDATION REPORT.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE VERY USER FRIENDLY.

AND YOU CAN HAVE LIKE A PERFORMANCE INDICATORS FOR PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND THEN ALSO LIKE MAPS IN THE CONGESTIONS AND OTHER.

SO THAT'S ALL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SHOW. BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO AND I'LL.

IF THERE'S A QUESTION I'LL BE HERE.

MR. PRESENTATION IN OUR PACKET I BELIEVE THROUGH IT.

I DIDN'T SEE IT. IT'S NOT.

WE HAVE THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.

OKAY. SO LISA CAN SEND THAT OUT.

WE'D HAVE THAT FOR REFERENCE.

YEAH. AND THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL THAT YOU REFERENCED THERE.

IS THAT A LINK ON THE MPOS WEBSITE TO LOOK AT OR A TXDOT WEBSITE OR.

IT'S A IT'S A MODEL SOFTWARE.

IT'S LIKE STANDALONE.

IT'S LIKE A LICENSE SOFTWARE.

SO IT'S WITH THE MPO AS WELL.

MPO HAS YOU HAVE COPIES OF THAT AND THEN YOU CAN RUN AN MPO.

BUT THE REPORT YOU CAN ALSO LOOK FROM THE HTML WHICH ELISA CAN SEND.

IF YOU NEED TO HAVE A LOOK ON THAT HTML, I CAN SEND THAT OUT.

THAT'S A LINK TO IT. YEAH.

THANK YOU. AND THEN WE ALSO GENERATED AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY WHICH SUMMARIZES A LOT OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN FIND IN THAT REPORT.

AND THAT IS IN THE PACKET.

YEAH. AND ALSO THE POWERPOINT IS LIKE A SUMMARY OF THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ITSELF.

SO THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY WILL HAVE MORE THAN PRESENTATION ITSELF.

AND I'LL HAND YOU OUR LAST SLIDE.

JUST TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS.

RIGHT. HOW THE NEXT STEPS.

AND THAT WILL BE FOR THE MPO TO ACTUALLY USE THE MODEL.

AND WE ARE OFFERING WE HAVE OFFERED TRAINING AND WILL CONTINUE TO OFFER TRAINING AND HAVE TECHNICAL SUPPORT FOR THE USE OF THE MODEL AND FOR THE DISTRICT.

WE ARE HAVING SPECIFIC COURSES COMING UP, TRAINING AVAILABLE FOR THE DISTRICT STAFF TO ALSO TO GIVE THEM MORE USE TO USING USING THE MODEL.

A LOT OF TIMES YOU HIRE CONSULTANTS TO DO A LOT OF WORK THAT CAN BE DONE.

IT'S NOT, IT'S IT'S CHALLENGING, BUT ONCE YOU LEARN IT, IT'S SIMPLE ENOUGH, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY IF YOU JUST WANT TO DO SOMETHING SIMPLE AND NOT SIMPLE.

I WON'T SAY THEY'RE SIMPLE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS AND SCENARIO PLANNING, BUT WE DO HAVE THE TRAINING AVAILABLE, RIGHT? AND THAT'S MY VOTE FOR AT LEAST GETTING HER TRANSPORTATION PLANNER ON BOARD.

THAT WILL HELP, AND IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY IN THE LONG RUN, SPENDING MONEY ON THE CONSULTANTS THAT YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN DO IN-HOUSE, SO OUR NEXT STEP WILL BE FOR YOU TO APPLY USING THE MODEL TO HELP YOU IN YOUR MVP DEVELOPMENT OR ANY OTHER OR YOUR OR YOUR DEVELOPMENT. WE ALSO REQUEST THAT THE MPO KEEP A NOTE OF YOUR PROJECTS AS THEY'RE OPEN TO TRAFFIC.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE NETWORK IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CRITICAL INPUTS.

AND IF IT'S NOT CODED CORRECTLY, THEN YOUR MODEL IS NOT GOING TO ESTIMATE TRIPS CORRECTLY.

SO IF WE KNOW WHEN THOSE PROJECTS ARE BEING OPENED TO TRAFFIC, WE COULD ADD THAT TO THE MODELS THAT ARE GOING BACK TRYING TO FIND IT OUT.

ONCE WE START KICKING OFF THE MODEL DEVELOPMENT, IF THAT DOCUMENTATION IS KEPT ALONG THE WAY, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE A MORE ACCURATE NETWORK.

SO WE ASK THAT ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE OPEN TO TRAFFIC IS DOCUMENTED WHEN THEY'RE LIKE THE MONTH AND THE YEAR THAT THEY'RE OPEN TO TRAFFIC, AND THEN ALSO WHENEVER NEW PROJECTS ARE FUNDED AND THAT AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE ADD TO OUR FORECASTING NETWORKS.

THEN ANOTHER STEP WOULD BE TO DEVELOP YOUR NEXT TIMELINE.

AS I DISCUSSED EARLIER, WE ARE GOING TO DEVELOP A CALIBRATED MODEL FOR THE MPO.

AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE LONGER.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE SHOWN YOU SOME OF JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG OF THE AMOUNT OF DATA AND WORK THAT GOES INTO DEVELOPING THE MODEL.

THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO SHOW YOU THOSE SCREENSHOTS OF THE DATABASES.

AND EACH LINK IS CODED.

EACH LINK IN YOUR ENTIRE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK IS CODED WITH ALL OF THAT DATA.

EACH ZONE HAS POPULATION DEMOGRAPHICS, EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ZONE AND EVERY ZONE.

HOW MANY ZONES? THEY HAVE LIKE 200 AND SOMETHING, 400, 400 ZONES.

SO JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THESE ZONES.

I MEAN, TO THESE TO THESE MODELS.

SO WE'RE PLANNING OUR NEXT MODEL.

WE WANT TO GET IT TO YOU IN TIME, SO YOU AT LEAST HAVE A YEAR PRIOR TO YOUR NEXT MTP DATE, WHICH IS IN 2029.

WE WANT TO GET IT TO YOU IN 2028.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START PLANNING THOSE KICKING THOSE STEPS OFF EARLY, THOSE TRIP GENERATION DISTRIBUTION ASSIGNMENT TRIPS OFF EARLY SO THAT WE CAN GET YOU YOUR MODEL IN TIME. SO WE WILL REQUEST THE MPO SUPPORT AS WE AS WE PLAN AND THEN ACTUALLY EXECUTE THOSE STEPS.

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WE ARE WE HAVE SOME GREAT TRAINING RESOURCES TO TRAIN THE STAFF AND THE DISTRICT ON THE USE OF THE MODEL.

AND WE ARE RECEPTIVE TO ANY REQUESTS THAT ARE MADE.

CAN YOU SEND US A STAFF PERSON? PLEASE? I WISH I COULD WRITE ON THE MODEL DATA.

I DIDN'T SEE LEVEL OF SERVICE BEING INCORPORATED, BUT AT WHAT POINT DO YOU TAKE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE INTO YOUR CONGESTION MODEL? SO WE DO JUST THE DC CVC RATIO, WHICH IS THE COGNITIVE CAPACITY.

BUT WE DON'T WE DON'T DO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE BECAUSE LIKE NCHRP HAS LIKE BASICALLY THE AREA TYPE RULE OR IS IT, IS IT A INTERSTATE? IS IT IT'S DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT CLASS.

IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE DIFFERENT FACILITY.

WE HAVE A TWO LANE.

IT TAKES 12,000 DAILY TRIPS, BUT OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE IS 10,000.

THAT'S NOT CALCULATED INTO THE CONGESTION LEVEL.

YOU CAN GENERATE THE DATA.

THE DATA IS THERE FOR YOU TO DEVELOP A LEVEL OF SERVICE MAP.

BUT WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS THAT OURS IS FOR ALL OF THE FACILITY TYPES, AND LEVEL OF SERVICE IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE FACILITY TYPES.

SO YOU'RE NOT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A VCU RATIO OF 0.5 MIGHT BE GOOD FOR A CERTAIN TYPE OF ROAD BUT NOT GOOD FOR OTHERS AND VICE VERSA.

AND ALSO LIKE IS IT RURAL? IS IT THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

SO YOU CAN CREATE LIKE A CROSS TABLE.

BUT BUT THIS CAN BE LIKE A STARTING POINT IS THIS? OKAY, SO THIS IS LIKE A BIG DUDE BECAUSE WE'RE A CALCULATION WONDER AND YOU'RE SHOWING LIKE 154 IN YOUR MODEL.

SO, YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT DO WE NOT SCRUB OFF AND VALIDATE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THIS WAS BASED ON YOUR 2015 MODEL.

REMEMBER WE DIDN'T CHANGE YOUR BASE YEAR.

SO WE ONLY ADDED A 2050.

SO THIS WAS BASED ON ESTIMATES FROM 2015.

AND WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT IN OUR MVP.

AND WE'RE OFF BY 40,000 POPULATION.

THAT'S QUITE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

BUT YOU'RE USING THE 2050 ESTIMATES NOT THE 2015.

YOUR 2015 WAS LIKE 150 FOR MODIFICATION OKAY.

WELL AGAIN THE DEMOGRAPHICS COME.

WE DON'T DEVELOP THOSE.

IT COMES FROM THE CONTROL TOTAL NUMBER THAT'S DEVELOPED BY THE THE THE STATE DEMOGRAPHER'S OFFICE.

AND THEN WE WORK WITH THE MPO TO GET THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

WE DON'T DEVELOP ANYTHING WE HAVE.

WE RELY ON THE MPO FOR THAT DATA.

OKAY. AND I WILL AND I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE NOT AT 200,000 POPULATION YET BECAUSE WE WOULD BE A TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT AREA AT THAT TIME, AND THAT WOULD NOT BE PRETTY.

SO WE ARE STILL UNDER THAT IN POPULATION SIZE? NO WE DON'T.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE 200,000 UNLESS I GET ABOUT FOUR MORE STAFF MEMBERS COMING.

AND THEN FROM OUR SIDE, THE INSTALLATION IS GROWING WHICH WILL INCREASE THAT TRAFFIC DEMAND MODEL FOR 2050.

RIGHT. SO AND THAT'S WHY WE THAT'S WHY WE DEVELOPED ALMOST EVERY FIVE YEARS.

BECAUSE THINGS DO CHANGE. RIGHT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT THE 2050 TO UPDATE YOUR MODEL.

WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO IN FIVE YEARS YOU'LL HAVE A NEW MODEL WHICH WILL REFLECT MORE CURRENT ESTIMATES AND DATA.

AND THAT'S WHEN WE'LL COME TO YOU AND ASK FOR YOUR INPUT.

WE'LL NEED THAT TO MAKE THE MODEL MORE ACCURATE.

WHEN DID YOU SET THE DATE FOR THAT? THAT WOULD BE THE THE UPDATE.

THE UPDATE ON THE MODEL.

YEAH. OH.

SO I'M I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THIS NEW BOUNDARY IS GOING TO LINE UP WITH THE MODEL AND WHEN RIGHT WHEN ALL THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE.

SO WE'VE BEEN KEEPING THEM INFORMED ABOUT OUR BOUNDARY EXPANSION.

AND SO PART OF OUR TDM OUR TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL ALREADY GOES INTO BUFFALO GAP.

SO THAT PIECE HAS ALREADY BEEN THAT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, BECAUSE WE KNEW THE EXPANSION WAS THERE.

AND THEN THE REST OF IT WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE NEW MODEL AS WE PROGRESS.

BUT AS FAR AS THIS MODEL, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT OUTSIDE OTHER THAN THE BUFFALO GAP AREA, RIGHT.

SO 2029.

WELL, A NEW DATE.

WE'LL START WORKING ON YOUR MODEL PROBABLY IN 2020, LATE 2025, 2026.

SO I WOULD HOPE THAT'S GIVE YOU TWO YEARS TO GET YOUR BOUNDARY APPROVED.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU'RE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T DEVELOP THAT MODEL AREA BOUNDARY WITHOUT APPROVAL OF THE IT BEING CHANGED OFFICIALLY.

SO BUT AS ALI SAID, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT A REASONABLE BECAUSE WE GOT OUR FRIEND FROM MERKEL BACK HERE THAT'S BEEN CLEARED SINCE IF HE'S A, YOU KNOW, IN THE DEAL.

SO ANYWAYS, I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH, WE HAVE A GOOD YEAR OR TWO BEFORE WE START A NEW MODEL.

SO WHATEVER BOUNDARY IS AT THAT TIME AND THEN WE CAN CONSIDER EXPANDING THE MODEL AREA.

BOUNDARY IS DIFFERENT. CAN BE DIFFERENT THAN YOUR THAN YOUR PLANNING AREA BOUNDARY WITH THE APPROVAL FROM FHWA OF COURSE.

SO IF THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE YOU KNOW IT'S IMMINENT AND THAT WE COULD GET APPROVAL FROM FHWA TO EXTEND YOUR MODEL AREA BOUNDARY, THEN THAT COULD BE A PROCESS AS WELL.

AND SOMETHING THAT TAMMY HAD BROUGHT UP.

THERE'S SO MANY PROCESSES THROUGH HERE.

SO THEY THEY DO ALL OF THEIR TRAVEL SURVEYS AND THEIR TRAFFIC COUNTS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

SO THOSE CAN BE INCORPORATED IN AS WE GO ALONG.

AND THEN WHEN WE GET THE EXPANDED BOUNDARY, THAT'S WHEN WE CAN SAY, OKAY, IT'S OFFICIAL NOW AND THEN WE CAN WE CAN CAPTURE THAT.

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SO AND THEY'RE WELL OUTSIDE OF YOUR BOUNDARY.

AND SO AND THE SURVEY IS USUALLY TAKEN WELL OUTSIDE OF YOUR BOUNDARY AS WELL.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ROADS TO PUT IT INTO THE TDM MODEL, TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.

ARE YOU LOOKING AT LIKE, CITY ROADS AND COUNTY ROADS OR IS IT JUST TXDOT ROADS COLLECTORS ARTERIALS.

OKAY. AND AND, YOU KNOW, ARTERIALS.

AND WHAT ABOUT OUT IN THE COUNTY OUTSIDE OF INCORPORATED AREAS WHERE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, EITHER JUST COUNTY ROADS, NOT NOT STATE HIGHWAYS.

AS LONG AS THEY'RE DESIGNATED AS THEY'RE THE FACILITY TYPE IS WHAT WE DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S A NETWORK.

AND THEN WE WORK WITH THE MPO TO ENSURE THAT EVERY ROAD THAT YOU FEEL IS CONTRIBUTES, BECAUSE THIS IS A REGIONAL MODEL, RIGHT? IT'S NOT A CITY OF ABILENE MODEL.

IT'S NOT JUST A COUNTY MODEL. IT'S A REGIONAL MODEL MODEL.

SO WE ASSIGN ROADS TO THE NETWORK THAT HAVE A REGIONAL EFFECT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A DIRT ROAD THAT CONNECTS THE SCHOOL TO WHATEVER.

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING THE INFORMATION.

WHENEVER NEW ROADS HAVE BEEN PLANNED OR IT'S BEING EXPANDED WITH ADDITIONAL LANES.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT IT WAS JUST TXDOT SENDING THE INFORMATION OF ALL THE CITIES.

AND THE COUNTIES ARE ALSO SENDING THAT INFORMATION.

SO SO THAT'S INFORMATION THAT WE NORMALLY PROVIDE AT THE MPO.

AND SO NORMALLY IF I HAVE A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, THEY'RE KEEPING UP WITH WHAT THE CITY IS DOING WITH THE COUNTY.

AND NOW WITH OUR EXPANSION, THEY WOULD BE KEEPING UP WITH THAT TOO.

AND ANY OF THOSE ROADS THAT ARE COLLECTORS OR ARTERIALS, THEN THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE REPORTING.

AND A LOT OF THOSE ROADS ARE ALREADY IN THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.

AND IT MAY BE AS SIMPLE AS SAYING, OKAY, IT WAS A ONE WAY STREET OR IT'S A TWO WAY STREET.

NOW IT'S A ONE WAY OR THOSE ALL THOSE TYPE OF THINGS FEED INTO THE MODEL.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT MY TRANSPORTATION PLANNER WOULD NORMALLY DO IS KEEP UP WITH THAT FROM THE SURROUNDING AREAS, BECAUSE THE CITY MAINTAINS THEIR OWN.

SO WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

THE COUNTY HAS THEIR OWN DATABASE.

AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO ACCESS THOSE.

AND SO WE THE PURPOSE OF A TRAVEL DEMAND IS TRY TO KEEP IT UP THROUGH THE WHOLE YEAR.

BUT WE'RE BEHIND ALREADY ON STARTING ON THE NEW MODEL ALREADY BECAUSE OF WE NEED THAT INFORMATION.

SO WE'LL START GATHERING IT AS SOON AS WE CAN.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS, LIKE FOR MERKEL, FOR EXAMPLE.

YES. IS THAT SOMETHING THEY'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE TO DO AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR TASK LISTS FOR THEIR PUBLIC WORKS AREA? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT.

YEAH. SO WE WOULD BE ASKING LIKE WE HAVE LAWN HERE, WE HAVE TUSCOLA AND WE HAVE MERKEL.

AND SO WE WOULD BE ASKING THEM, OKAY.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES TO Y'ALL'S ROADWAYS.

DID Y'ALL DO ANY, YOU KNOW, UPDATES TO WHATEVER.

ARE THERE SIDEWALKS ALONG THERE? THOSE TYPE OF THINGS ALL GO INTO OUR SYSTEM AND THEN WE FEED THAT INFORMATION, WHATEVER THEY NEED TO THEM TO BE ABLE TO TO MAINTAIN THOSE ROADS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ROADS ARE FUNCTIONING LIKE THEY SHOULD BE FUNCTIONING IN THE FUTURE AND TRYING TO PREDICT OUT TO 2050.

I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT BOTH OF THESE LADIES.

THEY HAVE BEEN ABOVE AND BEYOND IN HELPING US.

TEX-DOT PROVIDED THIS MODEL TO US WITHOUT US HAVING TO GO OUT FOR A CONSULTANT.

SO WE'RE REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL Y'ALL DO.

AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL TAKING MY PHONE CALLS, EVEN WHEN IT'S CRAZY CALLS.

SO THANK Y'ALL.

SO IN ADDITION TO YOUR ELISA'S RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, AS WE'RE GETTING READY TO DEVELOP THIS CALIBRATION MODEL, THIS IS OUR BIG MODEL, RIGHT? THIS IS THE MOST COMPLEX.

THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR NETWORK.

IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR NETWORK AND YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A ROAD THAT HAS REGIONAL SIGNIFICANCE THAT IS NOT REPRESENTED, THEN THIS IS THE TIME TO ADD IT.

AND THE TDM IS THAT LIMITED TO MPO AREAS OR IS IT STATEWIDE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE IN AN MPO OR NOT.

SO WE HAVE THE URBAN MODELS FOR URBAN AREAS MPOS.

AND THEN I AM THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE STATEWIDE MODEL, WHICH COVERS THE ENTIRE STATE.

OKAY. SO IN HER MODEL, THE STATEWIDE MODEL INCLUDES ALL OF THE URBAN MODELS AND THEN ALL OF THE RURAL AREAS AS WELL, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE IN AN MPO.

YES. GREAT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH THAT ON.

AND IS ANYBODY PLANNING ON COMING TO THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING CONFERENCE IN DALLAS? WE WE HAVE WORKSHOPS THE DAY BEFORE THE CONFERENCE.

AND WE WILL HAVE A TDM 101.

WE'RE GOING TO GO EVERYTHING FROM FUNDING TDM ALL THE WAY THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION AND USE OF TMS. AND THEN ALSO WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A SAM MODEL WORKSHOP TO TELL YOU HOW TO USE THE SAM MODEL IN THE BEST WAYS TO USE IT.

AND THAT'S THE ON THE TUESDAY THE DAY BEFORE THE CONFERENCE STARTS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'LL MOVE TO MICHAEL.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

I'LL JUST ROLL IT. MICHAEL.

YEAH, JUST ROLL IT.

OH. I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT.

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I'VE BEEN IN I'VE BEEN IN THIS ROLE FOR FOR NINE YEARS.

IT'S BEEN VERY ENJOYABLE.

I REALLY LIKE THE MPO.

I REALLY LIKE THE MPO PROCESS AND NOT MANY PEOPLE WILL SAY THAT, BUT BUT I DO THINK THE SYSTEM WORKS AND I THINK IT WORKS WELL. SO THE PLANNERS TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC VOLUMES AND LISA'S TALKED ABOUT EXPANDING OUR BOUNDARIES.

SO, SO ONCE THE TAC COMMITTEE PICKS A PROJECT AND THEN THE POLICY BOARDS APPROVE IT, APPROVES IT, THE NEXT BIG QUESTION THAT DALE SPURGEON HAS IS WHAT TAKES SO LONG? OKAY. WHAT TAKES SO LONG TO DO WHAT? IF YOU LIVE LONG ENOUGH. IF YOU LIVE LONG ENOUGH.

MY PREVIOUS LIFE, I DID A LOT OF WORK WITH MPOS AT ANOTHER STATE, AND AND I COULD GIVE THIS PRESENTATION AT ANY MPO IN TEXAS, PROBABLY ANY MPO NPO IN THE NATION BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME SET OF RULES.

WE'RE USING FEDERAL FUNDING.

WE'RE USING FEDERAL LAW.

AND AND NPO PROJECTS TYPICALLY ARE ALL ABOUT SAFETY, CONGESTION AND CONNECTIVITY.

BUT FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT, THAT MEANS WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPLEX ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND COMPLEX ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS.

IT MEANS TYPICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND UTILITY RELOCATION.

AND ALL THIS IS VERY MUCH UNDER FEDERAL ACTS, FEDERAL LAWS, FEDERAL REGULATIONS, FEDERAL POLICIES.

AND WE HAVE FHWA OVERSIGHT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

SO WE SELECT A PROJECT WE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR WE HAVE OUR BOUNDARIES AND WE HAVE OUR VOLUMES.

WE SELECT A PROJECT THAT'S DAY ONE OKAY.

AND WELL LET'S, LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT AT AT AT THE PROCESS FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT ON NPO PROJECTS.

SO ONCE A PROJECT IS SUGGESTED, WE DO RESEARCH.

WE LOOK AT MANY FACTORS.

YOU KNOW, WE VISIT JOB SITE, WE SCOPE THE PROJECT, WE PROVE THINGS TO THE COMMISSION.

WE WE CREATE THIS PROJECT.

BUT THE MAIN THING WE LOOK AT IS WHAT'S CALLED A NEED AND PURPOSE STATEMENT.

THE PROJECT HAS TO FIT A NEED AND PURPOSE AND AND WE GOT TO THE PUBLIC AND WE TALKED TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE START DESIGNING.

AND THE BEST EXAMPLE I CAN THINK OF THIS IS US 8384 REMINGTON CLARK ROAD.

WE HAD SIX PUBLIC MEETINGS BEFORE WE EVER BEFORE WE EVER WENT TO DESIGN.

WE HAD THREE MEETINGS DURING THE DAY WITH STAKEHOLDERS.

WE HAD THREE MEETINGS AT NIGHT WITH CITIZENS.

WE HAD OVER 350 PEOPLE SHOW UP.

THAT WAS BEFORE WE STARTED DESIGNING THE PROJECT.

SO SO WE STARTED, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST MEETING WAS WAS JUST TELL US WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE.

SECOND MEETING WAS.

THESE ARE OUR OPTIONS AND FORTH.

AND THE THIRD MEETING WAS, WAS THIS IS OUR OUR PREFERRED DESIGN.

AND WE TRIED TO BUILD CONSENSUS.

SO ONCE AGAIN WE DON'T JUST ONCE WE PICKED A PROJECT, WE JUST DON'T DON'T START DESIGNING IT.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR NEEDS AND NOTIFICATIONS.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT PLANNING TRAFFIC VOLUMES, FUNDING AND AND AND THAT TAKES SOME TIME.

THEN WE HAVE TO HIRE A CONSULTANT AND A CONSULTANT SELECTION.

TEXDOT SPENDS AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY IN CONSULTANT SELECTIONS.

BUT THEN ONCE WE SELECT A CONSULTANT, WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THAT CONSULTANT.

THEN WE HAVE TO PROCESS A CONTRACT, WE HAVE TO KICK OFF THAT CONTRACT.

AND TYPICALLY THAT'S SIX MONTHS AT LEAST, SOMETIMES 12.

BUT WE'VE BEEN BETTER THAN THAT.

BUT WE HAVE TO SCOPE THE PROJECT WITH THE CONSULTANT.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE THE PROJECT.

WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT STATE QUALIFICATIONS.

THE BROOKS ACT IS FEDERAL LAW.

WE MUST SELECT THE MOST QUALIFIED CONSULTANT REGARDLESS OF PRICE.

VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

THEN WE NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT AND THAT CONSULTANT HAS SUB CONSULTANTS AND SECOND TIER SUB CONSULTANTS.

THEY HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEIR WITH THEIR WITH THEIR SUB CONSULTANTS.

THEN WE HAVE TO TO TO PROCESS THINGS FOR SIGNATURES.

IT'S AT LEAST A SIX MONTH PROJECT, A SIX MONTH PROCESS ON A MAJOR PROJECT.

THEN WE GET TO WHAT I CALL THE CONCEPT STAGE.

AND THE BEST, BEST EXAMPLE I CAN THINK OF THIS IS LANDFILL ROAD.

WE LOOKED AT ABOUT A HALF A DOZEN DIFFERENT CONCEPTS BEFORE WE FINALLY PICKED ONE, AND WHEN WE PICKED THAT CONCEPT AT THE TIME, IT WAS $13.5 MILLION AND WE THOUGHT, OH MY GOSH, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $13.5 MILLION ON LANDFILL ROAD.

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BUT BUT WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS BEFORE WE DECIDED ON THE DESIGN ONCE AGAIN.

THEN WE HAD TO SHOW IT TO THE PUBLIC.

ALL PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS.

WE HAD TO GET THEIR COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, WE EVEN MADE SOME ALTERATIONS TO THE PROJECT BASED ON SOME OF THEIR INPUT.

BUT BUT CONCEPT CAN TAKE A WHILE BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING LOTS OF MONEY.

AND THEN THAT $13.5 MILLION PROJECT ENDED UP BEING $40 MILLION SIX YEARS LATER.

BUT STILL, WE WE LOOKED AT MULTIPLE OPTIONS BEFORE WE STARTED BEFORE WE STARTED, STARTED DOING THE DESIGN.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS, 18 TO 24 MONTHS ON A MAJOR PROJECT.

THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT HOW LONG IT TOOK ON LANDFILL ROAD.

WE WENT TO THE PUBLIC A COUPLE OF TIMES.

WE HAD TO LOOK FOR ENDANGERED SPECIES.

WE HAD TO LOOK AT HISTORY.

HISTORY HAS THE STRONGEST LAWS AND SOMETIMES THE HISTORY PEOPLE AND THE ARCHEOLOGY PEOPLE, THEY DON'T AGREE WITH EACH OTHER.

THE WETLANDS PEOPLE DON'T REALLY AGREE WITH THE HISTORY PEOPLE.

THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, AT PUBLIC USE, THE USE OF PUBLIC LAND.

ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

IT'S A LONG PROCESS THAT TYPICALLY TAKES AT LEAST 24 MONTHS BY THE TIME THAT WE GET APPROVAL FROM FROM AUSTIN.

SO WE'LL SUBMIT IT TO AUSTIN AND THEN ENV IN AUSTIN HAS TO APPROVE IT.

ALL THIS TIME WE'RE DOING PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

SO NUMBER FOUR AND NUMBER FIVE IS BEING DONE CONCURRENTLY.

WE'RE DESIGNING OUR PROJECT.

WE'RE DOING QUANTITIES BID ITEMS. WE'RE TRYING TO STAY INSIDE THAT $13.5 MILLION ESTIMATE.

IT DIDN'T WORK SO WELL ON LANDFILL ROAD.

BUT WE'RE COORDINATING WITH OUR UTILITIES, OUR RAILROAD.

WE MEET WITH FHWA WHEN NECESSARY.

WE HOLD A PRELIMINARY PLAN REVIEW WHERE WE LOOK AT THE PROJECT PRICE.

WHO'S ACTUALLY GOT TO BUILD THE PROJECT? WE DID THAT MULTIPLE TIMES ON LANDFILL ROAD.

WE HAD WE HAD MEETINGS JUST FOR THE TRAFFIC CONTROL.

WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

HAD HAD AT LEAST HALF A DOZEN PLAN REVIEWS THE RIGHT OF WAY PLANS HAVE TO BE CREATED.

TYPICALLY THAT'S 3 TO 6 MONTHS BECAUSE.

BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, WHEN WE GO OUT AND WE PURCHASE PEOPLE'S RIGHT OF WAY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS GETTING VERY LEGAL, VERY FEDERALLY MANDATED PROCESS.

I KNOW TEXAS PEOPLE DON'T JUST GIVE YOU THEIR LAND.

THEY AND THEY'RE PRETTY HARD NEGOTIATORS WHEN IT COMES TO, WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR LAND.

AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR THAT.

SO WE HAVE TO CREATE THE RIGHT OF WAY PLANS.

WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

EVEN ON A SIMPLE PROJECT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A YEAR FOR, FOR FOR ACQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY FOR A DOZEN PARCELS.

BUT BUT SOMETIMES IT CAN TAKE TWO YEARS IF IF WE GET INTO EMINENT DOMAIN AND, AND WE GET INTO ISSUES WITH THAT, THAT LANDOWNER, WE DO A FINAL BUILD PLAN REVIEW.

WE ALL WE LOOK AT WE LOOK AT THE FINAL SET OF PLANS.

WE LOOK AT OUR COST ESTIMATE.

WE THEN THE UTILITIES HAVE TO RELOCATED ON LANDFILL ROAD.

THERE ARE ABOUT 20 UTILITIES THAT HAD TO BE RELOCATED AND THEY COULDN'T ALL RELOCATE AT THE SAME TIME.

THERE HAD TO BE A PROCESS THERE THAT WE HAD TO COORDINATE.

AND THEN FINALLY WE LET THE PROJECT TO CONSTRUCTION AND THEN CONSTRUCTION.

THEN WE TURN IT OVER TO BRYCE, AND TYPICALLY HE DOES IT IN 18 TO 36 MONTHS.

AND SO IF WE START ADDING IT UP YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT A MINIMUM OF 60, BUT TYPICALLY 110 OR 120 MONTHS FOR, FOR A MAJOR PROJECT.

AND THAT'S KIND OF THE NORM.

SOMETIMES WE CAN WORK CONCURRENTLY.

BUT BUT THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S A LOT OF RISK IN THESE PROJECTS THAT THERE ARE INTERNAL RISKS, SUCH AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL RISK, RIGHT OF WAY UTILITY RELOCATION, UNFORESEEN OBSTACLES.

SOMETIMES PRIORITIES CHANGE.

FUNDING CHANGE, POLITICS CHANGE.

ALSO JUST, JUST THERE CAN BE A LOT OF UNFORESEEN THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE MPO PROJECT.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS, LIKE I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, THAT I BELIEVE IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE THE BEST PROCESSES, THE BEST PROJECTS ARE USUALLY CHOSEN AND EVENTUALLY BUILT FOR THE MPO.

PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, TRANSPARENCY DOCUMENTATION ARE CLEAR AND EVIDENT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

THAT'S ONE REASON I REALLY LIKE NEPA.

I REALLY LIKE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS.

IT'S EXTREMELY TRANSPARENT.

THE PROCESS, THE FEDERAL PROCESS IS SLOW, BUT IT'S VERY FAIR.

LANDOWNERS ARE TREATED FAIRLY.

THEY HAVE DUE PROCESS.

THEY HAVE LEGAL RIGHTS.

ONCE THE PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED, THE PUBLIC IS USUALLY HIGHLY COMPLIMENTARY OF THE FINAL PRODUCT.

ONCE COMPLETED, THE PROJECTS USUALLY STAND THE TEST OF TIME FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

SO HERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

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THIS WAS THE NUMBER ONE WHEN I TOOK THIS JOB IN DECEMBER OF OF 2014.

THIS WAS THE NUMBER ONE PROJECT FOR THE MPO AND HAD BEEN FOR OVER TEN YEARS.

AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EXCELLENT PROJECT ONCE IT'S ONCE IT'S FINISHED.

$24 MILLION.

IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THAT IF WE LET IT NOW BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY GOOD PROJECT ONCE IT'S DONE.

CONCRETE PAVEMENT, WE WON'T HAVE TO DO MAINTENANCE ON IT.

WE HAVE WE HAVE WE HAVE GREAT SIDEWALKS AND CROSSINGS.

WE HAVE SOUND WALLS.

ONCE AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THAT AREA AND CHANGE.

CHANGE. FM 89, THE OTHER ONE, ANOTHER PROJECT THAT IS GOING EXTREMELY WELL IS FM 1082.

GREAT COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY ON THAT THAT WE USE A MIXTURE OF FUNDING ON THAT PROJECT.

WE GOT A A LARGE FINANCIAL DONATION BY THE CITY.

PLUS WE USED SOME SOME MPO MONEY AND WE USED SOME OF OUR OWN MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND IT ENDED UP BEING ABOUT EIGHT, $8.5 MILLION.

AND ONCE IT'S DONE, IT'S IT'S GOING EXTREMELY WELL.

ONCE IT'S DONE, I THINK, I THINK THE PUBLIC WILL BE VERY, VERY FAVORABLE.

ANOTHER ONE. ONCE AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT 8083 AND FM 1034.

THAT $13.5 MILLION PROJECT ENDED UP AT $40 MILLION, AND WE WERE GLAD IT ENDED UP AT 40 MILLION AND NOT 60.

AND ONCE AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, WE THINK IT WILL BE A TREMENDOUS PROJECT FOR THE AREA.

WE THINK IT WILL VERY MUCH STAND THE TEST OF TIME.

AND ONCE AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD PROJECT.

SO, SO RECENTLY, WITH THE HELP OF THE TAC COMMITTEE, WHICH I WANT TO GIVE LOTS OF CREDIT TO, WE HAVE A GREAT TAC COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY.

WE WE JUST PASSED ABOUT EIGHT PROJECTS FOR OUR MTP AND THAT ARE AT OUR CAT TWO FUNDING.

SOME OF THOSE ARE I-20 PROJECTS.

ALSO WE'RE LOOKING AT AT THE LOOP AND 36.

WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOME INTERMEDIATE WORK THERE TO, TO HELP THAT AREA.

FM 7707.

WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS ON BOTH SIDES OF, OF 8384.

THE THE WEST PROJECT IS WILL BE IN RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION SOON.

THE EAST PROJECT IS CURRENTLY WE'RE WORKING ON ENVIRONMENTAL SCHEMATIC ON THAT.

AND I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT IT ALSO.

WE HAVE DIRECT CONNECTS RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S IN YEAR 2034.

WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING DIRECT CONNECTORS FROM THE LOOP ONTO ONTO I-20.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS, BECAUSE OF, OF INFLATION, BECAUSE OF OF OF THE UNPREDICTABILITY OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MOVE MONEY AROUND.

YOU KNOW, OUR CAT TWO MONEY.

IF RIGHT NOW THE JUDGE ELY PROJECT, WE WE EXPECTED IT TO BE $110 MILLION.

OUR CONSULTANT ESTIMATED IT AT $140 MILLION.

WE DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCURATE, BUT BUT BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE MIGHT LOOK TO MOVE SOME SOME CAT TWO MONEY TO TO TO JUDGE ELY.

IF WE HAVE TO. BUT WE'RE EARLY IN DEVELOPMENT ON THAT SO SO WE WILL THERE WILL BE TIMES WE HAVE TO SHIFT MONEY AROUND FROM PROJECT TO PROJECT.

THE MAPLE STREET PROJECT RIGHT NOW IS CAT FOUR FOR YOU? WE MIGHT LOOK TO PUTTING SOME CAT TWO MONEY ON THAT, BUT THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU MICHAEL. ANY QUESTIONS? NOT EASY. THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE MVP FOR 2025 TO 2050.

AND BILL IS DOING THIS ONE.

ALL RIGHT. I'M BILL FRAWLEY I'M WITH HEWITT JEWELERS INCORPORATED CONSULTING FIRM.

WE ARE WORKING WITH THE MPO STAFF ON THE CURRENT METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

THAT'S THE 25 YEAR OUTLOOK FOR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING TOOLS, STRATEGIES, PROJECTS.

JUST A BIT OF BACKGROUND, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL FROM YEARS PAST, SOME I MET AT THE DELPHI GROUP THAT WE HAD RECENTLY, AND SOME ARE NEW FACES, BUT I SPENT 30 YEARS WORKING AT TEXAS A&M TRANSPORTATION INSTITUTE DOING A VARIETY OF TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, RESEARCH, AND IMPLEMENTATION THINGS.

PART OF THAT TIME ALSO SPENT DELIVERING DOZENS OF CLASSES FOR NATIONAL HIGHWAY INSTITUTE, NATIONAL TRANSIT INSTITUTE AROUND THE COUNTRY.

AND I GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE FROM OTHER STATES THROUGH THAT AS WELL.

ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION THIS IS UNSOLICITED.

UNSCRIPTED. THE PRESENTATION YOU HAD ABOUT THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL AND THE FACT THAT I HOPE THEY'RE STILL HERE, BUT TEXDOT PROVIDES THAT.

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AND SOME SMALLER MPOS GO WITHOUT A TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.

AND SO WHEN THE MPO STAFF COMES ALONG AND SAYS, HEY, WE NEED SOME MONEY TO LIKE, DO DEMOGRAPHIC DATA, THAT IS A SMALL PRICE INVESTMENT FOR THE RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT. SO JUST PLEASE REALIZE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TXDOT DOES THAT MOST STATES DOTS DON'T DO.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE MTP PROCESS WHERE WE ARE ON CERTAIN THINGS WHERE WE'RE GOING.

AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG THE WAY TO MAKE IT A TRUE WORKSHOP STYLE BILL.

I WILL SAY JUST WE DO HAVE OUR NEIGHBORING GROUPS HERE.

AND SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE TOOK THE THE INFORMATION FOR THE PROJECTS THAT WE GOT FROM THEM.

AND BILL IS GOING TO SHOW THAT SLIDE.

WE ALSO PUT THE ONES THAT WE GOT IN FROM THE CITY AND ALL THE OTHERS.

BUT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, I HOPE IT'S AN OPEN DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT PROJECTS AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE'RE LACKING.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU.

GOOD LITTLE SNEAK PEEK AT WHAT COMES LATER.

ALRIGHT, SO SOME OF Y'ALL ARE NEW TO THE MPO PROCESS.

SOME HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR A WHILE, SOME ARE IN BETWEEN.

BUT THE MPO IS THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND PROGRAMING AGENCY THAT WORKS WITH MULTIPLE ENTITIES TXDOT, CITIES, COUNTIES, AND SO ON, AS WELL AS TRANSIT PROVIDERS, STAKEHOLDERS, ALL PARTS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

ON THIS MAP YOU WILL SEE I'M COLORBLIND TO A CERTAIN DEGREE OR CHROMATICALLY CHALLENGED.

THERE'S A SOLID LINE WITHIN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT COLOR IT IS.

IT'S BLACK IS OUR BOUNDARY.

THANK YOU. THE RED IS THE EXPANDING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Y'ALL SHOULD ENJOY RIDING WITH ME.

NO, DON'T RIDE WITH HIM, PLEASE.

MY TURNING RED.

I'M RED GREEN COLORBLIND.

ANYWAY, I'LL TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THAT IF THERE'S TIME.

THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE A CHALLENGE.

HEY, I STOP ON ORANGE AND GO ON WHITE.

OKAY, SO I HAVE A SYSTEM, AT LEAST IN THIS COUNTRY.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS YOUR CURRENT MPO BOUNDARY, AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED TODAY AND AT PREVIOUS TIMES.

THERE'S A REQUEST PUT IN THAT HOPEFULLY THE GOVERNOR SIGNS FAIRLY SOON TO EXPAND THE MPO BOUNDARY TO THIS RED.

I BELIEVE YOU SAID DASHED LINE.

THAT TAKES IN WHAT MIGHT APPEAR TO BE A LOT OF AREA.

BUT THOSE ARE AREAS, INCLUDING SOME CITIES AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMMUTING INTO AND OUT OF ABILENE, COMING IN FREQUENTLY TO ABILENE FOR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY NEED, EVEN IF IT'S NOT JOB RELATED.

THIS IS NOT AN UNUSUAL REQUEST.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NPOS RECENTLY GOING THROUGH THESE REQUESTS, AND OUR BOUNDARY HAS NOT CHANGED IN MANY YEARS.

SO THAT'S IT'S NOT AN EXPANSION WHEN YOU DON'T DO IT ON A MORE NORMAL BASIS.

I'VE WORKED WITH YOU OFF AND ON FOR 20 YEARS OR MORE AND YOUR PREDECESSORS, AND IT HASN'T CHANGED, I DON'T BELIEVE, SINCE THEN.

SO THE MTP HAS TO BE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS BECAUSE YOU ARE IN ATTAINMENT OF AIR QUALITY STANDARDS.

THE AREAS THAT DON'T FALL IN THE AIR QUALITY ATTAINMENT, THEY HAVE TO DO IT EVERY FOUR YEARS.

SO IT'S EASIER EVERY FIVE YEARS.

AND IT LOOKS OUT AT A 25 YEAR OR SO OUTLOOK.

HERE'S OUR PROCESS FOR DOING THIS 2050.

AND THAT'S THE TARGET YEAR 2050 MTP UPDATE WE STARTED BACK IN MAY.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S STILL ONGOING.

WE'RE ABOUT WRAPPING UP ON SOME OF THIS DOCUMENTING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

FINDINGS. ANALYZING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WE HAD PUBLIC MEETING NUMBER ONE, ALONG WITH THE DELPHI GROUP THAT A LOT OF Y'ALL PARTICIPATED IN.

AND AGAIN, EXPERIENCE OF DOING THIS KIND OF STUFF FOR 30 TO 33 YEARS, THAT DELPHI GROUP THAT Y'ALL CONVENED AND GAVE INPUT, THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST ONES OF THOSE I'VE EVER SEEN ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.

THERE WERE ABOUT 40 PEOPLE FROM ALL THE CITIES, THE COUNTIES, MULTIPLE PARTS OF TXDOT, THE PUBLIC STAKEHOLDERS, PRIVATE SECTOR COMPANIES.

THAT WAS IDEAL.

WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD INPUT ON THAT.

SO THEN WE START LOOKING AT THE PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS, THE SOLICITATION OF PROJECTS THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN SENDING IN.

AND WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT LATER.

AND THEN WE STARTED WORKING ON THE DRAFT PLAN, CERTAIN SECTIONS, CHAPTERS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM.

THE PREVIOUS ONE HAD ABOUT EIGHT OR SO.

WE'LL PROBABLY FOLLOW SOMEWHAT OF THAT SAME FORMAT, BUT SOME CHAPTERS WE MAY EXPAND TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.

SOME MAY SHRINK A LITTLE AND SOME WILL BE ABOUT THE SAME.

BUT WE'RE REALLY WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT ENOUGH OF THE RIGHT INFORMATION GETS IN THERE.

AND THEN THE FINAL THE PUBLIC MEETING NUMBER TWO, THAT WILL OCCUR ON OCTOBER 10TH FROM 4 P.M.

TO 7 P.M.. THAT'LL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC AND ANY OF Y'ALL, OF COURSE, TO SHOW UP AND GIVE SOME INPUT, GET SOME FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS ON WHAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED

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AND THEN WE'LL BE REVISING THAT FINAL PLAN AND ALL OF THIS.

WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE MPO STAFF, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ELISA AND RITA DO AT ONE POINT, FIVE FTES THAT ARE DOING LIKE FOUR FTES WORTH OF WORK.

AND I'M NOT EXAGGERATING.

I'LL PAY YOU LATER FOR THAT.

NO PROBLEM. ANOTHER UNSOLICITED, BUT I GET EXTRA COBBLER, RIGHT? SO. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE FINAL PLAN PRESENTATION AND ADOPTION IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR TO MEET THAT FIVE YEAR DEADLINE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

OOPS. OKAY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS, WE HAVE A FEW MAPS HERE TO SHOW YOU.

AGAIN, STOP IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

BUT BASICALLY LOOKING AT EXISTING PAVEMENT CONDITIONS THE DATA FROM THE SOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE SHOWS THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME DECREASE IN THE PAVEMENT QUALITY SINCE 2017.

THAT'S PROBABLY A FACTOR OF INFLATION AND OTHER THINGS.

AND JUST DOLLARS DON'T GO AS FAR AS THEY USED TO, REGARDLESS IF IT'S TXDOT, CITIES, COUNTIES OR SO ON, IT'S TOUGH TO KEEP UP.

AND SOMETIMES WEATHER EVENTS WILL MAGNIFY THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AS WELL.

WE ARE FINDING THE LOWEST QUALITY OF PAVEMENT INSIDE WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE ABILENE URBAN CORE, AND THAT IS THIS AREA INSIDE OF INTERSTATE 20, LOOP 322, AND THEN THE US 8384.

SO THIS KIND OF MORE DENSELY POPULATED, OLDER PART OF ABILENE OVERALL.

AND WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT TERMINOLOGY A LITTLE BIT LATER ON.

BRIDGE CONDITIONS.

LOOKING AT OVERALL ALL THE DIFFERENT CONDITIONS, THERE'S ONLY ONE BRIDGE THAT WE SAW WHERE THERE'S, QUOTE, A POOR QUALITY OR D RATING ON IT IN THE MTP STUDY AREA. ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE WHEN THERE'S PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR THE BRIDGE QUALITY, IT'S LOOKING AT DECK AREA ON NATIONAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM BRIDGES AND INTERSTATE, WHICH INCLUDES THE INTERSTATES.

SO THERE COULD BE 1 OR 2 LARGER BRIDGES THAT ARE EITHER BRAND NEW OR THEY'RE OLDER, AND THEY CAN SOMETIMES SKEW THE DATA BECAUSE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE NUMBER OF BRIDGES, BUT THE DECK AREA THAT THEY'RE COVERING.

HERE'S ONE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS CONCERNED OR CURIOUS ABOUT IS FATAL AND SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES.

THIS IS FIVE YEARS WORTH OF DATA.

AND ONE THING THAT SHOWS UP HERE, AND THIS IS PRETTY SIMILAR TO OTHER AREAS OF SIMILAR SIZE, THE FATAL AND SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES ARE SPREAD SOMEWHAT THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

WE. IF YOU WENT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ZOOMED IN BEFORE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT ALONG SOUTH FIRST STREET THERE'S A HIGHER CONCENTRATION.

THERE'S A HIGHER CONCENTRATION DOWN HERE ON TREADAWAY, CLOSER TO THE 8384 INTERCHANGE AT THE SOUTH END OF WHAT WE CALL THE URBAN CORE.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A FEW OTHER PLACES, BUT THERE'S VERY FEW OBVIOUS.

THIS IS AN INTERSECTION.

THIS IS A PLACE THAT HAS TO BE FIXED.

THE BIG CHALLENGE IS SOME OF YOU ALL MAY BE AWARE WITH FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES.

A LOT OF IT'S BEHAVIORAL.

IT'S KIND OF RARE IN THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PLAN OR DESIGN YOUR WAY OUT OF A FATAL OR SERIOUS INJURY PROBLEM.

A LOT OF IT IS DISTRACTED DRIVING, NOT COLORBLIND, BUT RUNNING RED LIGHTS, MAYBE DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SOMETHING.

SO A LOT OF THINGS THAT ACTUALLY THE BEHAVIOR CAN BE PREVENTED.

SO IT'S A CHALLENGE TO BE ABLE TO FIX THAT IN SOME CASES.

SIMILAR HERE WITH BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN CRASHES.

WE'VE OBSERVED WITH THE DATA, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY TALKED WITH ELISA THAT THE SOUTH FIRST STREET IS AN ISSUE.

THERE'S SOME TRANSIENT POPULATION.

THERE'S MOTELS BY THE DAY, THE WEEK, WHATEVER.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC GOING ALONG, AND THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS AS CAREFUL AS THEY SHOULD BE, WHICH MAKES IT CHALLENGING FOR THE DRIVERS ALSO. AND SO THAT'S ONE PLACE, ONE CORRIDOR WHERE WE'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, IF YOU WILL, CONCENTRATION AGAIN THOUGH.

OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD 52 BICYCLE CRASHES IN THE WHOLE STUDY AREA AND THEN 133 PEDESTRIAN CRASHES.

ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE, TOO, THIS WILL MAKE THE NEWS.

SOMETIMES WHEN A PEDESTRIAN GETS HIT BY A TRAIN ON THE SOMEONE'S WALKING ALONG OR CROSSING THE RAILROAD TRACK, THAT OFTEN DOESN'T GET REPORTED, I DON'T BELIEVE TO TEX-DOT OR TO THE NATIONAL PEDESTRIAN BECAUSE THAT'S ON THE RAILROAD'S RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S INTERESTING SOMETIMES.

ALL RIGHT. EXISTING CONDITIONS.

SO WE TOOK THE 2015 CITY OF ABILENE BICYCLE PLAN, WHICH AGAIN COVERS MOST OF THE URBAN CORE, AND THEN GOING OUTSIDE OF IT.

AND THEN THE MPO GAVE US SOME INFORMATION TO SHOW SOME OF THE FACILITIES THAT WERE COMPLETED OR EXPANDED OR UPDATED AS OF 2022.

BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF NEED OUT THERE.

ONE OF THE REASONS THIS IS SO IMPORTANT, AND I'LL TIE THIS BACK TOGETHER WHEN I TALK ABOUT TITLE SIX, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AND STUFF.

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IT'S NOT JUST AN OPTION.

IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO WALK THE DOG, SO TO SPEAK, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MOMENTS.

TRANSIT. THEY HAVE THE FIXED ROUTES.

AND THEN LIKE MOST AGAIN, MOST AREAS OF THIS SIZE, THERE'S SEVERAL ANYWHERE FROM IN PLACES 5 TO 7 FIXED ROUTES, USUALLY A HUB AND SPOKE TYPE THING WITH CIRCULAR ROUTES HOUR OR 45 MINUTE HEADWAYS.

ONE THING THAT'S INTERESTING HERE THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN IN AS MANY OF THE PLACES OF THIS SIMILAR SIZE ARE THE ZIP ZONES AND THE ON CALL ADDITIONAL ON DEMAND SERVICES WHICH CAN SUPPLEMENT AND HELP GET PEOPLE TO THE TRANSIT SYSTEM OR TO DESTINATIONS AS WELL.

ONE THING THAT'S HAPPENED HERE, AND I'VE SEEN IT IN ODESSA AND MIDLAND, ESPECIALLY SOMEWHAT IN SAN ANGELO, THERE'S A BIG COMPETITION FOR CDL COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSE HOLDERS TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE THE BUSSES THAT ARE NECESSARY, EVEN THE SMALLER CITY BUSSES, BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET OVER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PASSENGERS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CDL AND BUS DRIVERS WILL GET THAT CDL AND THEN BOOM, THEY CAN DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THEIR MONEY BY GOING TO WORK FOR FREIGHT HAULER, PETROLEUM INDUSTRY, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, CONSTRUCTION DRIVERS AND SO ON.

AND I KNOW THAT'S HAD A BIG IMPACT.

LAUREN, I'VE READ THE ARTICLES AND THE NEWS STORIES ON CHANNEL 12 AND SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S HAD.

AND THAT'S A CHALLENGE. I WANT YOU ALL TO REALIZE WHAT WE FOUND OUT TALKING TO THE TRANSIT SYSTEM AND THE MPO AND THEN ALSO OTHER PLACES, THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN.

IT'S NOT A TRANSIT.

IT'S NOT A CITY LINK ISSUE.

IT'S A REGIONAL AND THINGS OUT OF THEIR CONTROL.

CONGESTION. THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO LOOK AT CONGESTION.

THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL IS A VALUABLE TOOL.

IT'S ONE OF THE IMPORTANT TOOLS IN THE PROJECT SELECTION REVIEW ANALYSIS PROCESS.

TXDOT HAS STARTED USING WHAT'S NEW TO ME.

I'VE BEEN READING UP ON IT SOME.

THEY CALL IT THE CAR SPACE METHOD TO HELP VERIFY OR TO DOCUMENT CONGESTION.

THEY'LL LOOK AT SATELLITE IMAGERY OF HOW FAR APART CARS ARE.

VEHICLES ARE ON ROADWAYS.

ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE AND EASY TO COMMUNICATE WAYS OF LOOKING AT CONGESTION IN RECENT YEARS IS WHAT'S CALLED A TRAVEL TIME INDEX, AND THAT HAS COME ABOUT IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

TEX-DOT WORKED WITH TEXAS A&M TRANSPORTATION INSTITUTE TO DEVELOP A TOOL CALLED COMPACT.

IT'S THE CONGESTION MANAGEMENT PROCESS APPLICATION TOOL.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COMPACT STANDS FOR.

I LOOKED IT UP LAST NIGHT TO REMIND MYSELF.

AND SO BUT ANYWAY, WHAT THAT COMES UP WITH AND IT'S EVOLVED OVER TIME ON SHORTER SEGMENTS OR LONGER SEGMENTS, YOU CAN BASICALLY SAY, OH, THE TRAVEL TIME INDEX IS 1.3 ON A ROAD, WHICH THAT WOULD MEAN, LET'S JUST SAY TO GET FROM DOWNTOWN TO DYESS AIR FORCE BASE, JUST TO PICK RANDOMLY TWO PLACES IF IT TAKES TEN MINUTES DURING OFF PEAK NON-RUSH HOUR.

OKAY. MIDDLE OF THE MORNING.

MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON. IF IT TAKES TEN MINUTES TO GET THERE IN THE AFTERNOON PEAK OR MORNING PEAK, IT COULD TAKE 13 MINUTES, 30% LONGER.

THAT'S WHAT THAT 1.3 MEANS.

SO IT'S A REAL GOOD WAY TO DOCUMENT AND THEN BE ABLE TO SAY TO PEOPLE, HERE'S HOW MUCH LONGER YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND IN TRAFFIC AT PEAK PERIOD TIME COMPARED TO OFF PEAK PERIOD TIME. PEOPLE CAN RELATE TO THAT BECAUSE, AGAIN, PROBABLY IN THIS AREA I LIVE IN THE METROPLEX, BUT HEY, HOW FAR ARE YOU FROM THERE? 45 MINUTES.

I DON'T ANSWER THEM. MILES.

YOU PROBABLY DON'T ANSWER MILES.

IT'S HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET SOMEWHERE? THAT'S HOW FAR SOMETHING IS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THAT ALSO TO HELP IDENTIFY THE OR FIND THE BEST WAYS TO IDENTIFY WHERE ARE THE CONGESTED ROADS AND WHERE IS THE CONGESTION CONGESTION EXPECTED TO INCREASE.

REMEMBER CONGESTION IS RELATIVE.

OKAY. I TALKED WITH MAJOR HOFHEINZ IN SAN ANGELO, THE MPO DIRECTOR THERE.

A MAJOR IS HIS NAME, NOT A RANK, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN SAN ANGELO.

CONGESTION OCCURS FROM 5:00 PM TO 5:05 P.M.

OFF THE LOOP AT SHERWOOD WAY, WHERE YOU HAVE TO SIT THROUGH 2 OR 3 CYCLES OF THE RED LIGHT ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD IN ARLINGTON IF I'M, YOU KNOW, COMING IN TO A NIGHT AT 5:00, WHICH I WON'T BE ON I-30, I'M GOING TO SPEND AN EXTRA 30 MINUTES BETWEEN DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH AND ARLINGTON JUST TO GET 15 MILES.

ABILENE. DIFFERENT PLACES WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THAT, AND IT'S EVEN RELATIVE WITHIN THE METROPOLITAN AREA.

BUT JUST REMEMBER, YOUR CONGESTION IS WHAT YOUR CONGESTION IS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP ADDRESS THROUGH THE MTP.

FREIGHT IS A BIG THING.

HOW MANY OF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN TRUCKS MOVING THROUGH? GO AHEAD AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THIS IS THE INTERACTIVE PART OF THE WORKSHOP.

YEAH. WHAT KIND OF TRUCKS HAVE Y'ALL SEEN MOVING INTO, OUT OF OR THROUGH ABILENE?

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THE WINDMILL BLADES.

I HAVE A PICTURE.

IT'S NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT I WAS ONE MORNING YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS OUT HERE HELPING WITH SOMETHING, THEY WERE MOVING A WINDMILL BLADE OUT ON THE NORTHEAST AREA, AND THE PILOT TRUCK WAS TRYING TO KEEP TRAFFIC.

THE ONE VEHICLE PLUS MINE BEHIND IT, AND I WAS OFF TO THE SIDE WATCHING, AND THIS PICKUP TRUCK DRIVER SAID, NOPE, I'M GOING TO GET THROUGH THERE AND KIND OF TRIED TO PASS ON THE RIGHT AND SURE ENOUGH, HE GOT CLIPPED.

AND THOSE 80 FOOT WINDMILL BLADES NEED A LOT OF SPACE.

THEY FIND HOPEFULLY THE BEST ROADS TO DO THAT.

BUT THE SMALLER THINGS, THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS THAT SHOULD BE TAKING CERTAIN ROUTES AND REALLY THROUGH TRUCK TRAFFIC, WHETHER IT'S JUST A BOX TRUCK OF TVS OR A TANKER TRUCK OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, KEEPING THEM ON TWO ROADS AND HAVING THOSE ROADS THAT THEY NEED TO AND WANT TO USE READY FOR THAT TRAFFIC, WHETHER IT'S VERTICAL CLEARANCES, BECAUSE WE'VE ALL HEARD ABOUT BRIDGE STRIKES, PROBABLY OVERHEIGHT VEHICLES, OR SOMETIMES THE DUMP TRUCK DOESN'T GO DOWN.

THAT'S HAPPENED HERE.

IT'S HAPPENED IN ODESSA.

IT'S CRAZY.

ONE THING THAT WE DID NOT FIND HERE IS I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN A TRUCK ROUTE ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF ABILENE OR ANY OF THE OTHER ENTITIES.

THAT CAN BE HELPFUL.

THEY ARE ENFORCEABLE.

IT'S HELPED MIDLAND AND ODESSA, AND I'VE USED THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE NEARBY AND THEY'RE SIMILAR SIZED CITIES.

THAT'S HELPED KEEP A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC TO THEIR LOOP ROADS AND OTHER MAJOR ROUTES IN AND OUT OF THE CORE CITY IF THEY'RE NOT THERE FOR DELIVERIES AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

BUT BASICALLY INVOLVING THE FREIGHT COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THE ROADS ARE READY.

GEOMETRICALLY TURNING RADIUS.

AGAIN, VERTICAL CLEARANCE AND SO ON.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

EXISTING CONDITIONS, POPULATION VERY CLOSE TO WHAT YOU SAW IN THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.

CURRENT ESTIMATES AND FORECASTS AND SUCH POPULATION IS A TRICKY THING TO GET SOMETIMES BECAUSE THE CENSUS BUREAU PROVIDES IT, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DON'T BREAK IT DOWN MORE THAN A CENSUS TRACT OR A CENSUS BLOCK GROUP, WHICH ARE BIG GEOGRAPHIC AREAS.

IT REALLY COMES INTO PLAY IN A FEW MOMENTS WHEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES.

BUT ONE THING THAT WE HAVE SEEN LOOKING AROUND IN THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE DID A LITTLE DRIVING DOWN SOUTH ESPECIALLY.

THE NEW DEVELOPMENT DOWN SOUTH.

I WOULD HAVE REALLY EXPECTED LARGER LOTS, EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE LITTLE 1 TO 5 ACRE RANCH YET.

BUT DOWN IN I BELIEVE IT WAS BUFFALO GAP.

MAYBE TUSCOLA.

VERY SMALL, ALMOST ZERO LOT LINES, HIGH DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND OF COURSE, THE HIGHER DENSITY, THE MORE TRAFFIC YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE COMING OUT OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, MORE TRAFFIC ON THE ROADWAYS TO COLLECTORS AND ARTERIALS, WHICH THEY TALK ABOUT FOR THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.

BUT THE HIGHEST GROWTH AREAS WE'VE SEEN THROUGH THE DATA AND THEN GOING OUT VISUALLY INSPECTING SOME THINGS.

OF COURSE THIS ISN'T NEWS TO YOU ALL I'M SURE, BUT DOWN SOUTH WYLIE AND SOUTH OF THAT, INCLUDING TUSCOLA, BUFFALO GAP OUT TO POTOSI AREA.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THE NORTHEAST AREA AROUND ABILENE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY, ACU, WHICH COULD BE, YOU KNOW, INFILL REDEVELOPMENT, REPLACEMENT WITH HIGHER DENSITY AND SO ON, SINGLE FAMILY AND APARTMENTS.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE DEMAND IS GOING TO BE FOR TRANSIT, BICYCLE, PEDESTRIAN AND THE ROADWAYS.

BECAUSE REMEMBER THIS MTP, IT'S FOR ALL MODES.

THIS IS NOT JUST A STREET HIGHWAY THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

IT'S LOOKING AT THE NEEDS FOR EVERY MODE OF MOVING PEOPLE AND GOODS.

ALL RIGHT. I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SOMEWHAT THE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS.

I ACTUALLY SENT A QUESTION TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE I KNOW AT FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION RECENTLY, BECAUSE TITLE SIX REFERS TO THE TITLE.

TITLE SIX OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964.

TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE TREATED FAIRLY, EQUAL, EQUITABLY GIVEN EQUAL ACCESS TO PARTICIPATE IN, TO HAVE ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS AND ANYTHING FEDERALLY FUNDED.

ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE CAME ALONG LATER AS ONE OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE UNDER A PRESIDENT.

BUT THAT'S ESPECIALLY A REINFORCING THE ETHNIC GROUP, MINORITIES AND LOW INCOME POVERTY LEVEL AND SO ON.

BUT BASICALLY, WHAT THESE THINGS ARE SAYING, THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT ARE CHALLENGED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLANNING AND PROGRAMING PROCESS.

MAYBE IT'S THE LANGUAGE THEY SPEAK, MAYBE THEY'RE LIMITED ENGLISH PROFICIENCY.

MAYBE IT'S TOUGH TO GET OUT AND GET SOMEWHERE.

MAYBE THEY HAVE NO OR ONLY ONE VEHICLE AT THEIR HOUSEHOLD.

OKAY. WE NEED NOT BECAUSE IT'S A REQUIREMENT.

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NEPA ASSIST, THAT'S FROM THE EPA ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS STEVE, THAT'S FROM FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT STP STANDS FOR, BUT BASICALLY IT HELPS TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE AREA AND FIND OUT WHERE, IDENTIFY, HONE IN, IF YOU WILL, TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.

MINORITY POPULATIONS, LOW INCOME POPULATIONS THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WE FOUND THROUGH USING THESE AND SOME OTHER SOFTWARE, SOME DISTINGUISHED AREAS, IF YOU WILL.

SO I'M CALLING THIS ONE AREA ONE THIS BIGGER AREA, NORTH PART OF ABILENE SOUTH OF I-20.

THIS IS AREA 234, FIVE AND THEN SIX AND SEVEN.

SO AND I'VE GOT IF Y'ALL HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER THOSE.

I'VE GOT SOME BACKUP DOCUMENTATION HERE IF I NEED TO LOOK AT IT.

BASICALLY, WE SAW SOME OF THE HIGHEST MINORITY POPULATIONS IN THESE CONCENTRATIONS IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, AS WELL AS THE LIMITED ENGLISH PROFICIENCY AND THE LOW OR NO AUTOMOBILE OWNERSHIP.

WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? WELL, SOME OF THOSE ARE PLACES WE NEED TO MAKE EXTRA EFFORTS TO REACH OUT TO COMMUNITY LEADERS, TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT OTHERWISE BE HESITANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLANNING AND PROGRAMING PROCESS, OR NOT HAVE AN EASY TIME ACCESSING IT.

MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE AN AUTOMOBILE IN THE HOUSEHOLD.

THERE'S ABOUT 5 TO 7% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN THE ABILENE AREA, MOST OF THEM CONCENTRATED IN THE URBAN CORE.

THEY DON'T HAVE A SINGLE VEHICLE.

AND THEN THERE'S A LOT THAT HAVE ONLY ONE VEHICLE FOR MULTIPLE PEOPLE.

SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT.

WE NEED TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S GOOD SIDEWALK FACILITIES, NOT JUST THE PRESENCE OF SIDEWALKS, BUT ARE THEY BUCKLING? CAN PEOPLE REALLY WALK THROUGH? CAN PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS MAKE IT THROUGH THERE AND TIE INTO THE TRANSIT SYSTEM, OR GET TO A DESTINATION, A SCHOOL OR SHOPPING OR WHATEVER ELSE IT MIGHT BE? I RECENTLY SPENT SEVERAL MONTHS AS THE MPO DIRECTOR FOR LAKE CHARLES, LOUISIANA, AS KIND OF A PART TIME THING TRANSITIONING THE LAST YEAR.

ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND OUT THERE BY TALKING TO SOME PEOPLE IN THESE CHALLENGED NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DEPEND ON WHAT THIS RESIDENT CALLED THE DOLLAR STORES, DOLLAR GENERAL FAMILY TREE.

THEY MAY NOT BE EVERYTHING'S A DOLLAR, BUT THEY'LL CALL THEM THE DOLLAR STORES BECAUSE THE DOLLAR IS IN THERE.

THEY ARE WALKING AND BICYCLING TO THESE PLACES TO GET THE BASIC STAPLES THAT THEY NEED, AND THEN CARRYING THOSE BACK AS A PEDESTRIAN OR ON A BICYCLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE, OR THE ONE VEHICLE IS BEING USED BY SOMEONE ELSE IN THE HOUSEHOLD.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE WAYS TO GET WHERE THEY NEED TO GO BACK AND FORTH.

IS THERE ANY? I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THAT BECAUSE WE SPEND A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME DOCUMENTING THIS, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF STATISTICS.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS OR ANYTHING I'VE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR? SO YES, SIR, FOR THIS, YOU'VE GOT THE CITY OF ABILENE.

ARE THERE SIMILAR POPULATION CONCERNS WITHIN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND THE MPO BOUNDARIES? GOOD POINT. GOOD QUESTION.

AND THE THE CONCERNS ARE NOT THERE AS MUCH.

I'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT MERKLE, HOLLY, CLYDE, AND WE'VE HONED IN ON KIND OF THAT WILEY AREA, INCLUDING SOME SOUTH, THE CITY OF ABILENE, THE POTOSI AREA, THOSE OUTER AREAS, THESE SMALLER TOWNS DON'T HAVE THE CONCENTRATIONS OF THE MINORITY AND LOW AUTOMOBILE OWNERSHIP AND LIMITED ENGLISH PROFICIENCY THAT THESE URBAN. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

LOOK AT THOSE. YES, SIR.

WE ARE. WE HAVE ALREADY.

AND SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE I SHOULD HAVE SAID IT FIRST.

THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? THOUGHTS, THINGS THAT CAN MAKE UP.

I'M SORRY. I'M JUST KIDDING.

DON'T DO THAT. YES, SIR.

BILL, I THINK ANOTHER GOOD SOURCE OF INFORMATION ON THESE ON THESE FOLKS ARE FOOD PANTRIES, QUICK PANTRIES, FOOD.

OH, FOOD PANTRIES. YES, SIR.

AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE MPO STAFF IS IN THE PROCESS.

THEY'VE HELPED US IDENTIFY SOME CONTACTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN TAKE THE NEXT STEP.

AND WHETHER IT'S THE FOOD PANTRY, IT MIGHT BE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS, SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THEM.

BUT THERE'S AN INTERNATIONAL AN AGENCY THAT HELPS INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTS ACCLIMATE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I CAN AND SOME OTHERS.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

GOOD POINT. ANYTHING ELSE? WHEN I WHEN MY KIDS WERE YOUNGER, I HAD EYES IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD, BUT THEY'VE GROWN CLOSE.

I'M GONNA MAKE SURE NO ONE'S RAISING A HAND BACK THERE.

THROW SOMETHING AT ME IF YOU NEED TO.

MAYBE COBBLER.

I'LL CATCH IT. ALRIGHT.

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THAT BLEW ME AWAY AND THAT WAS SO VALUABLE.

AND TWO HOURS OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WE HAD, WE GOT SO MUCH INPUT FROM SUCH A VARIETY OF ENTITIES AND PARTICIPANTS, SOME OF THE EMPHASIS AREAS WE GAINED OUT OF THAT.

AND THERE'S ABOUT THREE SLIDES ON THIS.

ONE OF IT IS SAFETY.

AND AGAIN, A LOT OF IT BICYCLE, PEDESTRIAN AND A LOT OF THAT DOWN IN THE SOUTHERN AREAS WHERE ROADS ARE EVOLVING FROM RURAL NATURE TO URBAN NATURE, CARRYING LARGER AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC AT HIGHER SPEEDS.

AND YET THERE'S NOT A BIG ALL OF A SUDDEN, WIDE, SAFER BIKE PED PATH OR WHATEVER.

AND PEOPLE USE THOSE ROADS OUT THERE EITHER FOR RECREATION, EXERCISE, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

WE FOUND OUT THAT SOMETIMES THE RAILROADS BLOCK AND MERKEL, AND IN THAI ESPECIALLY, THOSE ARE TWO OF THE ONES THAT MENTIONED IT A LOT.

THOSE TWO SMALLER TOWNS CAN HAVE THEIR ENTIRE TOWN BLOCKED BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE TRAINS THAT COME THROUGH.

EXCUSE ME. I GET CHOKED UP TALKING ABOUT TRAINS.

THE FLASHBACK OR.

I'M SORRY, IS THAT JUST A FLASHBACK? YES. I GOT STOPPED BY THE RAILROAD POLICE IN ODESSA ONE TIME.

WELL, WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE CODY ELLIS.

CODY ELLIS IS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF TY.

AND SO WE GOT TY BACK ON THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE NOW.

AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THEY'VE BEEN A MEMBER AND WE'VE HAD SOME LAPSE THERE OF HAVING SOMEBODY.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOU ATTENDING.

THANK YOU. I HEARD THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW MARATHON RACE AND RUNNING RACE IS TO BE CALLED TY GOES TO THE RUNNERS.

IS THAT TRUE OR NOT? I'M JUST KIDDING. ALL RIGHT.

NO, BUT YOU HEARD THAT ONE.

OKAY. A NEW ONE.

GOOD. THAT'S A NEW ONE ON ME.

ALRIGHT, WELL, FEEL FREE TO USE THAT.

NO. I ENJOY MODEL TRAINS, ACTUALLY.

AND THEN I DID GET KIND OF STOPPED BY THE RAILROAD POLICE IN ODESSA.

I WAS TAKING PICTURES OF A NEW RAILROAD SPUR, AND I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO RAILROAD JAIL.

I'M SERIOUS. THAT GUY WAS LIKE, MEAN.

I WAS LIKE, SORRY.

ANYWAY, SO I THINK I'LL BE OKAY FOR THE REST OF THIS.

WE'LL SEE. BUT A LOT OF THE FREIGHT TRAINS NOW ARE A MILE LONG.

THAT'S JUST THE STANDARD LENGTH WHERE THERE'S A UNIT TRAIN OF HOPPER CARS, COAL CARS, TANKER CARS, WHATEVER.

AND NOW THROUGH THE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, THEY'RE RUNNING SOMETIMES DOUBLE LENGTH TRAINS TWO MILES LONG.

BUT IMAGINE A TRAIN STARTS MOVING VERY SLOWLY OR GETS STOPPED, AND IT BLOCKS ALL OF THE CROSSINGS AND TY OR ALL OF THE CROSSINGS IN MERKEL.

I THINK. TY, Y'ALL MENTIONED YOU HAVE A FIRE STATION ON EITHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD.

NOW, BECAUSE OF THAT TYPE OF THING, TO AT LEAST GET ONE PIECE OF APPARATUS TO RESPOND.

SO THAT'S AN ISSUE.

AND THERE'S PROBABLY 25, 30 TRAINS A DAY GO THROUGH THE ABILENE AREA ON THE UP MAIN LINE.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF A LOT OF ISSUE GROWTH.

THEY CONFIRMED THEY THE DELPHI GROUP, Y'ALL WHO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AS WELL, THAT THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH A LOT IS GOING SOUTH AND TO THE NORTHEAST.

AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF REASONS FOR THAT ONE, A CHANGE OF LOCATION, ONE TO CHANGE A SCHOOL DISTRICT, ONE TO BE CLOSER TO THE UNIVERSITY, WANT MORE LAND, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

THAT'S WHERE IT'S HAPPENING.

WE'VE SEEN THE INDUSTRIAL GROWTH GOING UP TO THE NORTHWEST.

THE BIG LANSING PROJECT IS GOING TO DRAW SOME THINGS OUT THAT WAY.

AND AGAIN, RURAL ROADS ARE CARRYING INCREASING VOLUMES OF URBAN TYPE TRAFFIC.

AND SO IN TXDOT HAS ALREADY SHOWN SOME OF THE PROJECTS THEY HAVE WHERE THEY'RE WIDENING AND THEY'RE IN THE MTP AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE GOING FROM TWO LANES TO THREE LANES OR FIVE LANES.

SO THEY HAVE A CENTER TURN LANE OR IN SOME CASES, SOME RIGHT TURN LANES.

AND THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN ON THESE, THAT WHAT WE'LL CALL A SPEED DIFFERENTIAL, SOMEONE'S SLOWING DOWN OR STOPS TO MAKE A TURN, AND YOU'RE COMING IN AT 55 OR 65 MILES AN HOUR.

YEAH. AND 80.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR I MEAN, SOME OF US HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT.

NO, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION OR YOU DON'T START SLOWING DOWN ENOUGH, THAT SPEED DIFFERENTIAL ENDS UP IN A COLLISION OR A SERIOUS CRASH.

SO THOSE TURNING LANES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO HELP SEPARATE THAT.

WE HAD THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DYESS AIR FORCE BASE THAT SAID THEY HAVE AIRMEN, STUDENTS, TRAINEES, WHATEVER IT IS, BUT PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE AIR FORCE BASE, SOME OF THEM TEMPORARILY, SOME OF THEM MAYBE LONGER.

THESE TWO RIGHT HERE. OH, THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU. YES. THAT'S RIGHT.

I THOUGHT YOU LOOKED FAMILIAR.

AIRPLANES WILL BE THE NEXT THING THAT CHOKE ME UP.

BUT BUT BUT TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH. TALKING ABOUT THOUGH THERE'S A SMALL BUT A TIGHT KNIT POPULATION GROUP THAT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO GET FROM THAT AIR FORCE BASE INTO TOWN SHOPPING, RECREATION, WHATEVER IT IS, BECAUSE THEY COME WITHOUT A VEHICLE.

OH MY GOSH. I DID NOT.

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THERE WE GO. LET MY DOG STAY.

ALL RIGHT. BUT THERE'S A BIG NEED FOR THAT.

AND SO HOW DO WE FIND OUT WAYS TO PROPOSE PLAN FOR IMPROVE BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN TRAIL SYSTEMS THAT WOULD INCLUDE DYESS AND THE OTHER DESTINATIONS THEY NEED TO GO TO, AS WELL AS TYING IN WITH TRANSIT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT AND THE IT CAN HAPPEN, RIGHT.

TOURISM. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT NOT AUTOMATICALLY THINK OF IF YOU'RE FROM OR GOING TO ABILENE.

IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REQUIRED OF THE PLANNING PROCESS NOW BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CONSIDER AND TO COORDINATE WITH TOURISM TYPE THINGS.

BUT REMEMBER, TOURISM IS RELATIVE.

OKAY. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO ABILENE MORE THAN YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT FOR RECREATIONAL, FOR SPORTS.

YOUTH SPORTS TOURNAMENTS, THE NUMBER OF HIGH SCHOOL PLAYOFF GAMES THAT ARE PLAYED AT SHOTWELL AND AT THE NEWER ACU STADIUM.

IT'S A VERY CENTRAL LOCATION FOR PLACES IN WEST TEXAS COMPARED TO THE METROPLEX.

NORTH AND SOUTH. SMALL, LARGE, MEDIUM SCHOOLS.

THAT'S A BIG THING.

AND THEN MEDICAL.

A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO THIS MEDICAL HUB 100 MILES AWAY OR MORE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN GET TO THE SPECIALIST.

AND IN SOME CASES THAT'S WHERE THEY GET TO THE DOCTOR.

I LIVED IN FORT STOCKTON FOR A WHILE AS A KID.

WE DROVE 90 MILES TO ODESSA TO GET TO THE ORTHODONTIST, AND THEN WHEN THE TOWN ARSONISTS BURNED THE MOVIE THEATER DOWN, NO KIDDING.

WE WOULD GO TO ODESSA TO SEE A MOVIE AS WELL.

WE'D GET A TWOFER OUT OF THAT TRIP.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE COME INTO ABILENE, INCLUDING FOR SHOPPING, GOING TO THE BIG BOX STORES, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE OR THE THE BIGGER CITY COMPARED TO WHERE THEY COME FROM, WHETHER IT'S THE CONGESTION, THE DIFFERENT SPEEDS ON THE ROADWAYS AND SO ON.

SO PLANNING FOR THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL.

I'M GOING TO TOSS THIS WORD OUT THERE AND GET INTERACTIVE.

AGAIN. IF I SAY THE WORD RESILIENCE RELATED TO THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, WHAT COMES TO YOUR MIND? NOTHING. WE DON'T NEED IT.

WE AIN'T GOT IT. WELL, BASICALLY, IT'S BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM OR ROADWAY RECOVER FROM AN INCIDENT THAT MIGHT BLOCK IT FOR QUITE A WHILE, AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

TANKER TRUCK FLIPS OVER AND BLOCKS BOTH LANES OF I-20 IN EITHER DIRECTION OR THE LOOP OR SOMETHING.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR A WHILE.

AND HOW CAN YOU GET INFORMATION TO THE MOTORING PUBLIC AND GET THE TRAFFIC REROUTED AROUND? WHAT ARE THE VIABLE ALTERNATE ROUTES? SOME PARTS OF ABILENE METROPOLITAN AREA HAVE VIABLE ALTERNATE ROUTES, PARALLEL FACILITIES.

SOME DON'T. SOME HAVE THINGS PREPARED FOR.

BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO AT LEAST LOOK AT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'VE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR.

I'LL JUMP IN ON THAT.

YES, SIR. PARTICULAR EXAMPLE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP BECAUSE AND WE HAVE THIS RURAL RURAL TRANSPORTATION GROUP CRANKING UP AND WITH THE ROUTING GPS, YOU KNOW, THE SOFTWARE THAT'S ON PHONES AND GIVING YOU MESSAGES AND DESCRIBING, YOU KNOW, A ROUTE THAT GOES, WE SEE A LOT OF THINGS CHANGING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING THOSE DIRECTIONS MAY NOT ALWAYS BE ACCURATE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPACTING THE WAY PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING AND GOING TO FORT WORTH. AND WE'VE GOT THAT MESSAGE THAT THE THERE WAS A WRECK ON I-20 AND IT GAVE DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO GET AROUND THAT OR AN ALTERNATE ROUTE.

WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP THAT GETS THAT SOFTWARE WORKING AND UP TO DATE? DO YOU KNOW? IT'S BASICALLY CELL PHONE PINGS, BLUETOOTH, ANYTHING THAT TRACKS THE MOVEMENT OF A VEHICLE.

SO SOME PRIVATE OR CORPORATE VEHICLES HAVE A GPS TRANSPONDER.

SO LIKE WAZE OR GOOGLE MAPS, THEY GET ALL THESE DATA POINTS INSTANTANEOUSLY.

AND IT'S TRACKING TRAFFIC AND IT'S SHOWING IN REAL TIME AS TRAFFIC IS SLOWING DOWN.

THEN OH, THERE'S A PROBLEM.

AND IF IT STOPS, THERE'S A BIG PROBLEM.

AND THEN IT'LL START SAYING REROUTING AND IT'LL TELL YOU TO GO I-30 INSTEAD OF I-20 OR ROSEDALE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THROUGH FORT WORTH.

AND HERE IT MIGHT SAY, OKAY, YOU'RE COMING IN LIKE I WAS THIS MORNING.

THERE WASN'T A PROBLEM IF I WAS COMING IN FROM ARLINGTON I-20, LET'S SAY THERE WAS A PROBLEM ON I-20 WESTBOUND AT 351.

IT MIGHT TELL ME.

WELL, EXIT HERE, SOMETIMES IT JUST TELLS YOU TO GO ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

THEN THAT BACKS UP ENOUGH AND THAT'S NO LONGER VIABLE.

THEN IT SAYS, OH, REROUTING AGAIN.

THOSE ARE GOOD TO A CERTAIN DEGREE BECAUSE THEY CAN KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING.

THE PROBLEM OR CHALLENGE THOUGH, IS THAT SOMETIMES IT'LL FIND ANY PART OF THE ALGORITHM TO SAY THIS WILL SAVE YOU 30S FOR A MINUTE.

NOW TAKE THAT.

AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH RESIDENTIAL AREAS, INDUSTRIAL AREAS.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SAY.

IT'S INAPPROPRIATE ROUTE FOR THEM TO BE ROUTING ALL THIS TRAFFIC THROUGH.

SO HOW HOW DO YOU MAKE THOSE SYSTEMS WORK TOGETHER.

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THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS I PRE IDENTIFY SOME PARALLEL ROADS AND PUT UP EITHER A MESSAGE, DYNAMIC MESSAGE BOARDS, ELECTRIC MESSAGES AND TELL TRAFFIC PLENTY AHEAD OF TIME. WHEN IT'S TIME TO MAKE A DECISION CONSIDER OR TAKE US 80 OR BUSINESS 20 INSTEAD OF I 20.

AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WOULD REALIZE OR UNDERSTAND THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE RELIABLE THAN THE WAYS THAT'LL REROUTE ME AND START TAKING ME THROUGH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, OR TWISTS AND TURNS THROUGH COLLECTORS.

AND BUT IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE.

YEAH, BECAUSE IN A RURAL AREA WE'VE GOT SOME ROUTING GOING ON SOME ROADS THAT ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THEY'RE TAKING ON BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING DIRECTED THAT WAY BY THESE PROGRAMS. AND SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO IMPROVE THAT, BECAUSE IT'S CREATING PROBLEMS. IT IS. I WORKED ON A RESILIENCE PLAN FOR THE PERMIAN BASIN IN POA A YEAR OR TWO AGO.

I DID NOT DO THAT.

AND WE LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY REROUTING, ESPECIALLY TRUCK TRAFFIC, BUT THROUGH TRAFFIC WAY AROUND THE AREA WHEN THE TOW TRUCK COMPANIES, WHO ARE THE BEST ESTIMATORS OF HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO CLEAR AN INCIDENT FOR VARIOUS REASONS, IF THEY SAY IT'S GOING TO TAKE 4 OR 6 HOURS AT LEAST, BOOM, START SENDING THEM OUT AT BIG SPRING UP THROUGH ANDREWS AND BACK AROUND AT KERMIT OR PYOTE.

IT'S A IT'S AN HOUR LONGER OR 45 MINUTES LONGER THAN USUAL TIME, BUT THAT'S GOING TO SAVE THEM INSTEAD OF SITTING IN TRAFFIC OR START GOING THROUGH WALL STREET AND MIDLAND OR JBS PARKWAY AND ODESSA AND SIMILAR TYPE THING HERE, IF THOSE CAN BE IDENTIFIED, THAT'S A WHOLE PLANNING EFFORT IN AND AMONG ITSELF.

VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.

AND THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SO FAR? OKAY, SO WE DID HAVE OUR PUBLIC MEETING NUMBER ONE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

IT WAS A SMALL TURNOUT, BUT THE FOLKS THAT WERE THERE GAVE US SOME VERY VALUABLE INPUT.

WHAT'S INTERESTING, IT KIND OF REINFORCED A LOT OF WHAT THE DELPHI GROUP TOLD US, AND A LOT OF WHAT OUR OBSERVATIONS ARE SAFETY, A LOT OF IT BICYCLE, PEDESTRIAN, ESPECIALLY DOWN SOUTH, ESPECIALLY IN NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE GOT TRUCK TRAFFIC SHARING FACILITIES WITH PEDESTRIANS OR BICYCLISTS.

AND THEN LAUREN GAVE US A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION ON TRANSIT ISSUES.

WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOME IDEAS AND TALK AT SOME POINT SOON.

SAME, BUT THAT WAS A BIG PART OF IT IS SAFETY, WHICH IS GOOD.

IT'S GOOD THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THAT AND GOOD THAT PEOPLE WANT TO IMPROVE THAT THING.

WE ALSO SENT OUT SOME SURVEYS AND MADE SOME SURVEYS AVAILABLE WITH THE QR CODE, AND WE DID OUR BEST.

AND THE MPO HELPED OUT A LOT TO TRY TO GET THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEYS.

IT WAS DISAPPOINTING.

WE ONLY GOT 33 RESPONSES.

YEAH, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT SEEMS TO ALMOST BE A TREND.

IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, PEOPLE HAVE GONE AWAY FROM WANTING TO GO THROUGH IF IT'S MORE THAN FIVE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S YOUR MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME? NO, WE DIDN'T ASK THAT. BUT BUT IT'S TOUGH TO GET PEOPLE TO STAY FOCUSED AND PAY ATTENTION FOR LONGER.

AND FIVE QUESTIONS.

WE REALLY CAN'T GET ENOUGH INFORMATION.

I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE HAVE 1520 QUESTIONS, BUT USEFUL QUESTIONS.

BUT WE DID COME UP WITH SOME INFORMATION OUT OF THIS.

AND BASICALLY OVERALL, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO GET AROUND IN THE ABILENE METROPOLITAN AREA.

THERE'S SOME CERTAIN CHALLENGES.

AND AGAIN, THE NEGATIVES COME BACK TO THE BICYCLE, PEDESTRIAN TYPE THINGS, A LOT OF IT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.

PEOPLE WERE EQUALLY SPLIT KIND OF ON THINGS LIKE TRANSIT AND OTHER TYPES OF THINGS.

AS FAR AS. DO YOU LIKE IT OR ARE YOU SATISFIED? ARE YOU NOT? YOU GOT TO REALIZE WITH TRANSIT IN AN AREA LIKE THIS AND LAUREN, YOU CORRECT ME OR HELP ME OUT.

WHAT IF YOU NEED TO? BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WHAT THE TRANSIT INDUSTRY CALLS CHOICE RIDERS.

THERE'S NOT. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS PEOPLE THAT MAKE A CHOICE.

WHEN I FIRST STARTED HEARING ABOUT CHOICE RIDERS AND TRANSIT TEACHING ONE OF THE CLASSES, I THOUGHT, OH, I'M A CHOICE RIDER.

I BEHAVE AND I DON'T SPIT ON THE FLOOR.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE MY FARE PAID.

NO, BUT A CHOICE RIDER MEANS SOMEONE WHO HAS A CHOICE.

I'M GOING TO EITHER USE MY AUTOMOBILE OR WALK OR TAKE TRANSIT.

THE PEOPLE IN AN AREA LIKE THIS IN SAN ANGELO AND ODESSA AND MIDLAND AND LUBBOCK AND SO ON, MAYBE LUBBOCK, NOT QUITE AS MUCH WITH THE UNIVERSITY, BUT AMARILLO.

HEY, IF THEY'RE ON TRANSIT, MOST LIKELY THEY HAVE TO, BECAUSE IT TAKES A WHILE.

AND THAT'S NOT A CUT DOWN.

THAT'S JUST A SITUATION.

SO AND AGAIN, THE PEOPLE THAT USE IT ARE OVERALL PRETTY WELL SATISFIED.

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THE BOTTOM BAR ON THIS ONE, PEOPLE ARE DRIVING PERSONAL VEHICLES ALONE OR WITH A MEMBER OF THE HOUSEHOLD.

FAR AND AWAY MORE THAN ANY OTHER WAY OF GETTING AROUND.

SOME ARE WALKING, YOU KNOW, HERE AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF IN THE SUN BELT, IF YOU WILL.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH SOME MONTHS RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK OR RIDE A BIKE SOMEWHERE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO IN THE HEAT OF THE DAY.

IT GETS COLD SOMETIMES IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RIDE A BIKE OR WALK AND SO ON.

IF IT'S RAINING HARD LIKE WE HAD SIX WEEKS AGO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WALK OR RIDE A BIKE.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO.

ALL RIGHT. SO, BILL, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I KNOW THAT THE TIP, THE TEN YEAR PLAN AND THE MTA ARE INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENTS.

SO WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THAT.

BUT IF WE CAN GO INTO THE PROJECT LISTINGS.

YES. PERFECT. WE'LL DO THAT.

JUST REAL QUICK THEN THE TIP FOUR YEAR PROGRAM OF PROJECTS, MONEY'S BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND SPECIFIC YEARS.

TEN YEAR PLAN HELPS MATCH UP WITH TXDOT'S UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM AND THE MTP AND THE MTP THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE.

SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE.

AND THIS IS IN THE PACKET.

CORRECT. YEAH. SO ALL OF THESE THE FUNDING LISTS ARE IN THE PACKET.

SO I WOULD SKIP THROUGH THAT.

AND LET'S GET TO IF WE CAN, TO THE ONES THAT CAME ABOUT, THE ONES THAT WERE ROLLING THROUGH.

WE'RE FUNDED IN THE CURRENT MTP.

THERE'S THE ILLUSTRATIVE LIST.

NOW HERE'S THE ONES THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED IDEAS FROM FROM TXDOT AND MEMBER CITIES.

AND ALISA, YOU TELL ME WHAT'S THE BEST WAY THAT WE WANT TO.

I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO READ THROUGH EVERY PROJECT, BUT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CALL SOMETHING OUT OR.

SO I THINK THE MAIN THING TO POINT OUT HERE IS THAT THESE ARE PROJECTS FROM TEXDOT MEMBER CITIES.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE PROJECTS THAT WERE SOLICITED WITH AN ONLINE MAPPING OF KEYWORDS, CAME UP WITH AN ONLINE INTERACTIVE MAP WHERE YOU COULD PUT PROJECTS DOWN. AND I WILL SAY THAT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE NOT BEEN EVALUATED YET.

SO OUR NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS IS TO TAKE THESE PROJECTS AND TAKE THEM BACK TO THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE PROJECT SELECTION PART OF THAT, AND ACTUALLY GO THROUGH AND RANK THESE AND LOOK AT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.

BUT I THINK, BILL, THE BEST WAY TO DO IT, I WOULDN'T COVER EVERY ONE OF THESE.

I WOULD SORT OF JUST SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, THE MAIN THINGS THAT THEY'RE WANTING IS SIGNAL UPGRADES.

SOME OF THEM ARE SIDEWALKS.

IF YOU COULD JUST POINT OUT THOSE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR.

SURE. NOT SPECIFIC ROADWAYS, BUT WORK WORK DESCRIPTIONS.

SURE. LIKE ELISE JUST MENTIONED, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC SIGNAL UPGRADES THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED, AND THOSE CAN SOLVE A LOT OF ISSUES, CHALLENGES, PROBLEMS, IF YOU WILL, WITH KEEPING TRAFFIC MOVING AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

HERE'S A LOT OF THE SIDEWALK ONES.

AND IT'S INTERESTING.

THIS HAS TO DO A LOT WITH FM 707.

TO SPARK A SPHINX ROAD.

I'M SORRY. ALONG THE I 20 SERVICE ROAD'S FRONTAGE ROADS, ACCESS ROADS, THAT TYPE OF THING.

PEOPLE WANTING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR WALKING.

AND THEN, MICHAEL, I THINK YOU ALL HAD SAID OR SOMEONE SAID AT THE DELPHI MEETING THAT THERE'S.

AND THE WHOLE I-20 REBUILD PLAN.

THERE'S SOME WINDING TUNNELS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.

YEAH, SO THAT'LL HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THIS, I WOULD ASSUME.

AND I THINK THIS IS AN OPEN, OPEN DISCUSSION, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, CHAIRMAN.

YOU KNOW, IF THE MEMBER CITIES ARE HERE AND Y'ALL SEE ONE OF YOUR PROJECTS UP HERE, AND Y'ALL WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT, PLEASE DO.

AT THAT TIME, IF YOU SEE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WE NEED TO ADD THESE PROJECTS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

OR REALLY, THIS IS THE INTERACTIVE PART OF THE WORKSHOP.

AT LEAST YOU PUT PAGE IN THE BOOK.

ARE THESE SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS, THIS ONE I JUST GOT THIS POWERPOINT IN.

SO IT'S NOT THE PACKETS HAD TO GO OUT EARLY.

SO THIS ISN'T BUT THE THE MTP AND THE TEN YEAR PLAN.

THE ONES ALREADY IN THERE ARE BUT NOT THESE.

BUT I WILL SEND THIS OUT AFTER THIS MEETING SO Y'ALL WILL HAVE IT.

BUT I'M READY TO TAKE SOME NOTES.

IF SOMEONE, EVEN IF IT HAPPENS TO BE A DUPLICATE.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GET THAT OUT IN THE WASH.

BUT IF THERE'S SPECIFIC IDEAS AND IF I NEED TO ROLL BACK TO A PREVIOUS SLIDE, HERE'S SOME MORE.

AND THIS PUBLIC INPUT THIS MAINLY THESE.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THESE BECAUSE THEY WERE THROUGH THE ONLINE MAPPING SYSTEM.

SO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT IS SOMEBODY TOOK THE LINK AND THEY JUST BASICALLY DREW A LINE AND SAID, YOU KNOW FROM HERE TO HERE WE NEED SIDEWALKS OR THERE NEEDS TO BE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION ON THIS.

SO THIS WOULD BE THE PROJECT SELECTION GROUP OF THE TAC WOULD GET TOGETHER, AND WE WOULD EVALUATE THESE AND SEE IF THEY NEED TO BE MOVED ON OR WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THOSE IN

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BUT IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A PROJECT THERE, BECAUSE THEY MIGHT ALIGN OR FEED INTO ONE OF THE MORE FINELY TUNED PROJECT IDEAS THAT COMES FROM AN ENTITY.

BUT HAVING THESE BACKUP IDEAS FROM THE PUBLIC GIVES EVEN SOME MORE VALIDITY TO THE OTHER ONES.

BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF IT ADDING SIDEWALKS.

THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT RAMPS ON I-20, BOTH BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS WELL AS SOME OF THE ENTITIES.

SO THE ONE.

SIR. WELL, IT WAS SOME OF THESE, THOUGH WE ALREADY HAVE PROJECTS FOR, SO I GUESS Y'ALL.

YEAH, WE WILL EVALUATE THOSE.

THESE ARE JUST WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU ALL THE PROJECTS THAT CAME IN.

YEAH. AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT BEFORE THE ATTACK AND WE'LL EVALUATE IT.

AND THEN THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE THE ONES THAT MAKE IT INTO THE MTP.

AND THEY'LL HAVE A PROJECT RANKING WITH THOSE.

AND WHAT'S NICE, MR. ALBRITTON, YOU JUST POINTED OUT WHEN SOME OF THE PUBLIC OR ENTITIES SUGGEST PROJECTS OR EVEN CONCEPTS AND YOU'RE SAYING, YEAH, WE'VE GOT ONE SET UP FOR THAT.

IT GIVES MORE VALIDITY.

IT'S LIKE, YES, Y'ALL ARE DOING THE RIGHT TYPE OF THINGS FOR SURE.

RIGHT? I JUST I JUST SEE A NUMBER OF THESE ART PROJECTS.

YEAH. WHICH IS GOOD.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW.

SO DO WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT MTP IS THE DIRECT CONNECTS FOR THE 22.

THAT'S IN THE CURRENT MTV.

AND I ALSO SAW ON HERE.

DO WE HAVE ADDING WINTERS FREEWAY FROM THE CURRENT SIX LANE MAYBE UP TO I-20 TO BE SIX? YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S IN THERE.

DO WE HAVE THE PROJECTS IN OR THE CURRENT MTV? YES, SIR. THE CURRENT PROJECTS ARE IN HERE IN YOUR PACKETS.

IT'S TOWARDS THE BACK.

IT'S IN UNDER SECTION SEVEN AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE.

THE FUNDED ONES.

START ON THE.

THE EASIEST ONE IS LOOKING AT THE PROJECT RANKING.

IT'S THE FIRST BIG PULL OUT SHEET BECAUSE THAT HAS EVERY SINGLE PROJECT ON IT, WHETHER IT'S ON CURRENT OR ILLUSTRATIVE.

THEY'RE ALL LISTED ON THERE.

AND SO THOSE ARE THE CURRENT PROJECT RANKINGS.

IT'S CALLED TABLE 24 IS THE ONE.

AND IT CONTINUES ON THE BACK SIDE OF THERE.

AND THE BACK SIDE IS SOME OF THE NEWER PROJECTS THAT WE JUST ADDED THIS PAST DECEMBER.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AT THIS MEETING IS REALLY IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY, ESPECIALLY THE BOARD AND ANY OF THE MEMBERS, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE MISSING.

AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE SORT OF SHOWING THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE ONLINE MAP AND THE PROJECTS WE GOT FROM TEX-DOT AND THE MEMBER CITIES ON THAT.

SO ARE THERE THINGS Y'ALL CAN THINK OF? MAY OR MAY NOT BE ALREADY IN A PROJECT LIST, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING BURNING ON YOUR MIND.

ESPECIALLY LET US KNOW.

NOW'S A GOOD TIME.

BUT YOU NEED TO LET ELISA.

SHE CAN GET AHOLD OF US.

NO, LATER. THAT'S FINE.

BUT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND DON'T BE CONCERNED THAT IT MIGHT ALREADY BE ON THE LIST.

THAT JUST HELPS REINFORCE IT.

WELL, I KNOW WE HAVE LORNE HERE.

COUNCILWOMAN. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IN LORNE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT MAYBE NOT REALLY.

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE IS GOING INTO THE WHY? YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF THE EXISTING PROJECTS THAT'S IN THERE.

SO THERE'S SOME BREAKS THERE.

OKAY. AND TUSCOLA, OF COURSE.

THAT SAME INTERSECTION THERE.

OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT WIDENING FROM THERE TO TUSCOLA.

I KNOW IT'S IN THE PROJECT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, INSIDE TUSCOLA, THE MAIN INTERSECTION THERE, WE UPGRADED IN THAT REGARD.

OKAY. AND WE DO I THINK WE HAVE THAT ONE ON THE I THINK THAT ONE'S IN OUR LIST.

YOU SAID THAT THIS LIST IS NOT COMPLETE.

YEAH. YEAH. NO.

IT'S ON. I'M SORRY. IT'S ON OUR POWERPOINT.

NOT ON. NOT IN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.

YES, MA'AM. FROM VOLIN.

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OH, RIGHT.

WE'RE WORKING WITH TEXT ON.

THAT. OKAY.

YEAH. I GOT HAPPINESS WITH THE SIDE ROADS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

OKAY. 604 RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THERE, AND THEY'RE HELPING US WITH OUR EASEMENT.

I HAD A COMMENT TO HIM JUST BEFORE I CAME HERE.

BRIAN BOUCHARD IS ON THERE.

THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF WORK GOING ON THERE, WHICH WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.

ONE THING THAT I FORGOT, AND THAT IS THE ROAD THAT RUNS THROUGH OUR TOWN AND OUT TO THE WEST SIDE THAT ALSO HAS SOME STORM DRAINAGE RUNOFF THAT WASN'T ABLE TO GO IN THERE.

I'LL HAVE TO GET YOU THAT ON THAT.

OKAY. YEAH. THANKS FOR ASKING THAT.

A LOT OF STORM RUNS COME WITH RAIN.

I WOULDN'T SAY FLOODS, BUT IT'S JUST RIGHT THERE BY JUNIOR HIGH.

COMMISSIONER ROSZEL. KELLY, I KNOW YOU'VE SENT SOME STUFF IN, BUT DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD UNDER ILLUSTRATIVE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT EARLIER.

I HAD EMAILED YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE UP HERE ON THE ON THE SLIDES.

THE CITY OF THAI REALLY CAN'T COMMIT TO ANY FUNDING FOR ANYTHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CITY COUNCIL.

AND SO WE CAN'T COMMIT TO ANY FUNDING FOR ANY OF THESE PROJECTS.

AND SO THESE ARE BASICALLY JUST SUGGESTIONS FOR US AT THIS POINT.

AND I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT US TO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.

SO THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE.

AND JUST FOR US TO BE THINKING ABOUT AT THIS POINT.

AND THE PROBLEM WITH THE SMALLER TOWNS, WE HAVE NO MONEY TO MATCH.

AND IT'S HARD FOR US TO GET ANYBODY TO AGREE ON ANYTHING.

ANY. AS FAR AS THE FLOODING ISSUES IN THE STATE NOW HAS A STATEWIDE FLOOD PLAN, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE STRATEGIES THAT'S AVAILABLE.

I THINK THAT COULD BE COORDINATED IN THE FUTURE TO IDENTIFY THOSE FLOODING AREAS AND WORK THROUGH THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR SOME FUNDING IN CONJUNCTION WITH TXDOT PROJECTS TO MAYBE ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT FLOODING CONCERNS.

AND ONE OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS IDENTIFIED AND STARTED MAKING SOME MAPS ON THE FLOODPLAINS AND SUCH FOR TAYLOR AND JONES COUNTY.

FOR SOME REASON, IT WAS TOUGHER TO GET FOR CALLAHAN.

SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST ROUTE FOR THAT.

BUT THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

JUDGE. YEAH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DATA AVAILABLE FOR SOME OF THESE RURAL AREAS FOR FLOOD ZONES AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT THERE'S A HUGE EMPHASIS FROM THE STATE TO START ADDRESSING THAT.

SO THERE IS A MECHANISM IN TARGETING RURAL AREAS.

SOME OF THAT FUNDING WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

THIS ISN'T A PROJECT, BUT JUST A REQUEST FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE LOCATION.

CAN WE PUT THE CITY IN PARENTHESES? YES. SO IF SOMEONE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE THIS TOWN IS AND IT'S ACTUALLY IN TUSCOLA VERSUS PARKVILLE OR ABILENE, YOU CAN TELL AT A GLANCE WHERE THE PROJECT IS. GOOD POINT.

MY OFFICE WOULD BE GOOD.

I'M SORRY. MAPS AND MAP SHOWING WHAT? WHERE IT ACTUALLY IS.

SURE. REALLY BENEFICIAL.

COULD YOU SHOW? THIS PROJECT EITHER IN THERE, IN, I DON'T KNOW, NUMBER 18.

I DON'T KNOW. IS THIS THE LIST THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

IS THIS THE TABLE OF 24 APRIL 24TH PROJECT RANKING.

SO THIS IS WHAT? YEAH.

SO THAT ONE INCLUDES BOTH THE FUNDED AND ILLUSTRATIVE.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ONES THAT WE JUST RECEIVED.

SO THIS IS FROM THE OLD MTP.

SO IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ONES THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW THAT ARE THE ONES FOR THE NEW ONE.

THIS IS STILL FROM THE OLD ONE.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMBINED LIST RIGHT.

YES, SIR. YEAH.

THIS IS THE THIRD ONE FROM THE BOTTOM.

IS THIS THE LOOP EXTENSION? IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? NOR. YES, SIR.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ONE FROM THE LOOP UP TO I-20 TO STATE HIGHWAY 351.

IT'S A CONTINUATION OF LOOP 322.

OKAY. THE NEW AIRPORT ACCESS ROAD THAT'S ON THE LIST THERE IS THAT FM 18 CROSSING OVER 36.

AND THEN. YES, SIR.

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AIR. AIR. AIRPORT.

ROAD. SO IS THAT A TECH STOCK PROJECT OR WON'T THAT BE A CITY OF BABYLON PROJECT? BECAUSE THAT'S ON THE AIRPORT.

RIGHT. SO WHAT THIS ONE IS, IT'S THE ACCESS ROAD IS THE PRIVATE.

SO I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE CITY OF ABILENE CROSSOVER.

YEAH. SO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT WOULD BE ON THE STATE HIGHWAY 36.

AND SO THAT COULD BE USING MPO FUNDING BECAUSE IT'S ON A STATE ROAD.

BUT THE CONTINUATION OF THAT IT WOULD JUST BE THAT INTERSECTION, NOT THE THIS IS SORT OF MISLEADING BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE AIRPORT ROAD.

IT'S JUST THAT CONNECTION TO THOSE OTHERS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON HERE OR NOT BECAUSE I'M HAVING A HARD TIME, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US AND MAYBE WITH OUR BOUNDARY EXTENSION.

BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US LOOK AT, AT ELIMINATING THE CROSSOVERS AND HAVE SOME ENTRANCE AND EXIT RAMPS FROM WHEN WE'RE BUILDING THE OVERPASS AT THE LANDFILL ROAD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO NORTH FURTHER, MAYBE TO HOLLY.

WITH MORE OF A FREEWAY TYPE SET UP AND ELIMINATE THE CROSSOVER TO THOSE BUSINESSES NORTH OF TOWN.

CROSSOVERS ARE. HARD FOR THOSE TRUCKS TO GET THROUGH.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BATTLING RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S NOT IN THERE.

I CAN TELL YOU. NOT IN THE CURRENT ONE.

EXCUSE ME. IT'D BE A GREAT OVERALL SAFETY CONCEPT TO ELIMINATE THOSE AT GRADE CROSSOVERS AND GET THEM EVENTUALLY REPLACED WITH INTERCHANGES.

Y'ALL PUT A CABLE BARRIER.

THE MAJORITY OF THAT WAY, GOING THAT DIRECTION.

RIGHT. NOW? YEAH. YEAH.

I MEAN, WE'LL GET RID OF ONE CROSSOVER WITH THE LANDFILL ROAD, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THOSE TRUCKING BUSINESSES BACK UP NORTH THROUGH THERE THAT I'VE GOT A CURIOSITY QUESTION RELATED TO THAT.

IS THERE A SPACING? IN OTHER WORDS, COULD YOU POSSIBLY LOOK AT ELIMINATING SOME OF THOSE CROSSOVERS WITHOUT HAVING A FULL INTERCHANGE AT EACH ONE? BUT DO YOU ALL HAVE A SPACING FOR CROSSOVERS? IT JUST CAME TO MY MIND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR IS IT KIND OF JUST IT DEPENDS ON THE ROAD.

I THINK THERE'S SOME GENERAL GUIDANCE, BUT I DON'T THERE'S NOT ANY I DON'T THINK THERE'S A HARD AND FAST.

I'M JUST CURIOUS. OKAY.

IT'S A LOT GREATER DISTANCE THAN WHAT THOSE ARE OUT THERE.

GOTCHA OKAY.

MAKES SENSE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

PROBABLY ANOTHER IN THE AGAIN PUTTING IT ON THE MAP IS AN OVERPASS AT 605 AND 277 THERE SOUTH OF HOLLY WHERE THAT RISE IS.

AND WITH ELEVATION CHANGE AND DISTANCE AND SITE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED.

OKAY. THE WHOLE CORRIDOR COULD JUST BE A FREEWAY TOP, RIGHT.

SO JUST CONTINUE ALL THE WAY FROM ISLAND TO ISLAND.

THERE'S ONE IN THERE FOR SEVERAL FOR ABILENE FOR SIGNALS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

ONE OF THEM WAS TREDWAY AT NORTH AND SOUTH FIRST.

GOING NORTH TOWARDS I-20.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD JUST TO DO THAT WHOLE COMPLEX NORTH AND SOUTH FIRST EXPRESSWAY INTERSECTION AS A PROJECT IN ITS IN ITS OWN JUST TO BE UPDATED. YEAH.

OKAY. ANY OTHERS? THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE TOPICS.

IT'S BEEN SOME GOOD FEEDBACK.

I MET YOU APPRECIATE ABOUT IT.

SO I'LL PROBABLY GET IN TROUBLE, BUT.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED A NEW WARDROBE CHANGE SOMETIME.

NEW WHAT? A NEW WARDROBE CHANGE.

OH. SO 83, 84 AND LUKE 322.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST PRETTY BRUTAL.

SO THAT'D BE THE BIG PICTURE.

IN THE NEAR TERM, WE NEED AN OX LANE, BASICALLY FROM THE HEART OF THE INTERCHANGE UP TO THE BUFFALO GAP ROAD EXIT, WHICH IS GOING TO REQUIRE SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. SO NOTHING'S CHEAP OR EASY.

BUT WHAT WAS THAT LAST ONE YOU MENTIONED? I'M SORRY, BRYCE. SO IT'S IN THAT SAME AREA, BUT IT'S FROM WHERE THE LUKE 322 RAMP COMES ON TO NORTHBOUND WINTERS FREEWAY.

OKAY. LANE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE BUFFALO GAP EXIT RAMP.

AND. IT WAS ON YOUR CONGESTION MAP.

IT'S ONE OF THE ROAD SPOTS.

GOTCHA. IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS TO DO THAT.

ANY OTHERS. AND IF YOU'LL THINK OF ANY MORE, JUST EMAIL US AND WE'LL GET IT TO BILL SO THAT THEY CAN INCLUDE IT IN THE PLAN WE'RE

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SO YOU ALL HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WELL INTO DECEMBER, SO YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO APPROVE ON THE FINAL DOCUMENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE IT IN THERE. I'LL SPEAK UP.

SINCE CONRAD HAD TO LEAVE EARLY, ONE THING THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IS SOME BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FROM DIETS.

YES. YEAH.

THANK YOU. MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? SOMETHING TO THROW AT ME.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOUR PRESENTATION? THAT'S IT. I'M. I'M FINISHED.

SO. OKAY. IT SAYS THANK YOU BILL.

OKAY, SO LET'S WRAP UP.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, SIR.

THAT WAS IT. I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE AND WE'LL BE GETTING INFORMATION BACK TO YOU ALL.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT.

HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB FOR US.

THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY EXCITED TO SEE THAT FINAL REPORT AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU ALL.

VERY GOOD WORKSHOP. APPRECIATE IT SIR.

ONE UPDATE. JUST THAT I DID MENTION IN OUR IN OUR PROJECTS THAT WE DO THIS IS UP IN THE CITY OF ABILENE.

ALL HAVE A PRETTY MAJOR PROJECT COMING RIGHT THROUGH THE CENTER OF TOWN.

THEY HAVE STARTED THAT.

IT WILL INCLUDE THE REPLACING SOME OF THE RAIL CROSSINGS AND CLOSING SOME OF THE RAIL CROSSINGS AND THE INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO CLOSING PERMANENTLY OR CLOSING FOR THE CLOSING PERMANENTLY FOR UP TO ONE OF THEM PERMANENTLY.

YEAH. BUT THE NO.

TWO CONSECUTIVE RAIL CROSSINGS WILL BE CLOSED AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THEY'RE WORKING DOWN THE RAIL.

BUT NO, IF ONE IS CLOSED, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE AND GET OVER IT.

BUT FROM SALES GOING EAST, THAT THAT LITTLE INTERSECTION RIGHT BY THE FLORIST.

MY FAVORITE PLACE. THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE PERMANENTLY CLOSED.

YES, YES.

BECAUSE SALES WILL BE ABLE TO.

IS GOING TO BE A FULL INTERSECTION TO GET ACROSS RIGHT NOW.

YOU CAN'T TURN LEFT.

GOING EASTBOUND OVER THE TRACKS.

THAT INTERSECTION IS GOING TO CHANGE TO ALLOW THAT.

AND VICTORIA WILL CLOSE ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE.

PERFECT. MAX, ARE THEY DOING THE HEIGHT DISTANCE THERE AT SALES? BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF HARD TO SEE.

ARE THEY LOWERING OR RAISING OR ANYTHING ON THE SALES A DESIGN.

THERE IS SOME ADJUSTMENT TO THAT.

OKAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL STILL GET IT TO THE ULTIMATE THAT WE WANT, BUT THEY ARE MAKING.

I KNEW THERE WAS LIMITED RIGHT OF WAY THERE, BUT I JUST I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU COME UP, IF YOU'RE CLOSING THAT ONE, IT'S SORT OF HARD TO SEE WHEN YOU.

I BELIEVE THE GRADE IS BEING LOOKED AT AT ALL OF THE CROSSINGS, BUT I DON'T THINK THE GRADE OF THE RAIL IS CHANGING THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S HOW I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THE TRACKS.

I'M JUST TALKING. YEAH. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WERE RAISING SOME OF IT UP TO TRYING TO REDUCE SOME OF THE HUM.

YEAH. AND SO IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME GRADING ON NORTH AND SOUTH FIRST TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

BUT IT'S IF YOU'RE SITTING ACROSS TRYING TO SEE OVER THE TRACKS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE A LOT.

YEAH, I JUST KNOW THAT SOME OF THE TURN OFF OF ONE OF THE SIDES, EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH FIRST, IT'LL BE A LITTLE BETTER.

I JUST KNOW THAT SOME OF THE TRUCKS USE THAT ONE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CLOSING BECAUSE IT'S FLAT.

IT'S EASY TO EASY TO GET ACROSS.

THE OTHER ONE IS SORT OF THE DISTANCE IS A LITTLE.

SO THE WAY THEY GOT THE GRADING GOING ON FOR CELLS, THAT WILL BECOME A LOT MORE MANAGEABLE FOR ALL THE TRUCKS.

BUT IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO ELIMINATE IF YOU'RE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE SIGNAL LOOKING ACROSS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT NOW, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO LOWER AND LOWER THE GRADE OF THE RAIL.

SO. THAT THAT PROJECT IS VERY COMPLEX.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET COMMUNICATIONS OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN FOR WHAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE RAILROAD AND THE CITY AND TEXTILE ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

SO AS MUCH COMMUNICATION AS WE CAN, WE'RE GETTING OUT.

BUT JUST PLEASE BE PREPARED TO HAVE SOME CROSSINGS CLOSED AND INTERSECTION DELAYS.

THANK YOU SIR. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO EVERYONE THAT WAS HERE TODAY AND PARTICIPATED AND GAVE SOME GREAT FEEDBACK, AND LOOK FORWARD TO ADDING SOME NEW MEMBER CITIES TO THE BOUNDARY AS SOON AS THE GOVERNOR GIVES APPROVAL TO THAT.

WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS, IT IS.

259 AND THIS MEETING OF THE POLICY BOARD OF THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.