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AND THAT'S A QUORUM, RIGHT? OKAY. OKAY.WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
THIS IS THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION.
THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY FOR APPROVAL ON CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATIONS IN HISTORIC PROJECT TAX REDUCTION CASES. HOWEVER, IT ACTS ONLY AS A RECOMMENDING BOARD TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS OF HISTORIC OVERLAY. ZONING DECISIONS REGARDING CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS MAY BE APPEALED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BY WRITTEN REQUESTS TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, OR NO LATER THAN 15 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS MEETING.
NO LATER THAN TEN DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS MEETING.
OUR OVERALL PURPOSE IS TO ADMINISTER THE PROVISIONS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 2344, FOR THE PROTECTION AND PRESERVATION OF LOCAL HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
THOSE WISHING TO BE HEARD SHALL APPROACH THE PODIUM.
STATE YOUR NAME AND PURPOSE FOR APPEARING.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO HAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA, YOU
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
CAN COME UP NOW OR YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL THAT ITEM COMES UP.DO WE NEED TO DO MINUTES? I'VE GOT. I'M GOING.
[1. Minutes: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Minutes from the Regular Meeting Held on July 23, 2024.]
DID EVERYONE GET TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES? DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT AS WRITTEN.DO I HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES SAY AYE? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING HELD ON JULY 23RD HAVE PASSED.
OKAY. ON THE AGENDA ITEMS, WE HAVE C A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS 2020 404.
[2. CA-2024-04: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request for Certificate of Appropriateness for multiple improvements located at 1025 Santos Street, Abilene, Texas.]
RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MULTIPLE IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED AT 1025 SANTOS STREET, ABILENE, TEXAS.HELLO. MY NAME IS KYRA VALOIS.
THE REQUEST IS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE FOLLOWING IMPROVEMENTS.
ADD A GARAGE DOOR TO ACCESSORY STRUCTURE LIKE FOR LIKE REPLACEMENT OF WINDOWS AND REAR FRENCH DOORS.
REPLACE THE STUCCO, INCLUDING THE EAVE AND TRIM AND REPAINTING AND ADD EXTERIOR LIGHTING FIXTURES.
THE ROOF IMPROVEMENTS ARE NO LONGER REQUESTED.
HERE ARE THE PROPOSED MATERIALS AND COLOR PALETTE THE EXISTING FRONT DOOR OF.
PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
SOME MORE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
HISTORIC PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
HERE'S THE PROPOSED PAINT SAMPLE AND STUCCO REPLACEMENT.
THE PROPOSED GARAGE DOOR AND AN INSPIRATION PHOTO.
AND THEN ANOTHER PHOTO OF HOME INSPIRATION.
THE FINDINGS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY.
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PURSUANT TO THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR THE REHABILITATION OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS.STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL IF THE ITEM IS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION.
LDC 20.30.40.4 REQUIRES THAT ONE THE WORK BE APPROVED.
THE APPLICANT MAY REQUEST AN EXTENSION TO THIS EXPIRATION DEADLINE PROVIDED A COMPLETE APPLICATION FOR A REQUEST FOR EXTENSION IS SUBMITTED AT LEAST 30 DAYS BEFORE THE APPROVED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS EXPIRES.
QUESTIONS. NOW THERE WERE TWO PAINT COLORS.
TWO DIFFERENT ONES WAS ONE FOR TRIM.
ONE IS FOR THE THE DOOR AND THE OTHER ONE IS FOR THE STUCCO.
OKAY, SO ON THAT ULTRA WHITE FOR THE STUCCO AND THEN THE THE TRICORN BLACK FINISHES FOR THE DOOR.
THE GUY GAVE HER A USED PAMPHLET SO IT WOULD CIRCLE FOR SOMEONE ELSE.
SO THAT ONE IS IS HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK THERE.
OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE STAFF MEETING AND THE STAFF STATEMENT.
AND NOW, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR ADDRESS.
MAYBE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN YOUR MOM'S AND HER.
MY ADDRESS IS 3560 HUNTERS GLEN ROAD.
AND THIS IS KELLY JOHNSON AND STEVE JOHNSON.
ACTUALLY, THEY ARE THEY ARE RESIDE IN DENVER, BUT THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE AT ONE, 250 SANTOS.
OKAY. WELL, NOW I THINK YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY.
I CAN SHE HEAR ME? WE I CAN HEAR HER.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO KEEP THE FRONT DOOR THE SAME AND IT HAS ALL THE BEAUTIFUL HARDWARE.
ORIGINAL. SO I JUST WANT TO CLEAN THAT UP AND SHINE IT UP.
IT DIDN'T HAVE A GARAGE DOOR INITIALLY AT ALL.
THAT THE BACK GARAGE WAS JUST RIGHT NOW.
THE PREVIOUS OWNER JUST BOARDED IT UP AND IT WAS MORE KIND OF LIKE A SHED.
SO WE OBVIOUSLY, FOR SECURITY, WOULD BE ABLE TO STORE THINGS.
WE'D LOVE TO HAVE A GARAGE DOOR.
I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE PUT A WOOD DOOR ON IT, BUT THE IT'S VERY COST PROHIBITIVE.
SO I TRIED TO CHOOSE SOMETHING THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WOOD.
THAT'S WHY IT HAS, LIKE, THE BEAUTIFUL, LIKE, PANELING, IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE.
AND AND THE, IN HISTORICAL SETTINGS, THEY OFTEN USE, LIKE, A DARK WALNUT COLOR. AND AGAIN, COST PROHIBITIVE.
IT WAS TO IT WAS LIKE DOUBLE THE PRICE TO DO IT IN A DARK WALNUT COLOR.
THAT'S WHY I CHOSE THE BLACK TO TRY TO BE AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL AND THE WHITE. I LOVE THE WHITE.
I MEAN, THAT THAT IS VERY HISTORICAL.
AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE STUCCO GENTLEMAN WHO'S DOING ALL THE REPAIRS THERE.
THE STUCCO IS IS VERY, VERY DAMAGED.
AND THE PAINT THAT THEY PAINTED IT THE LAST PREVIOUS OWNER, IT'S PEELING AND CRACKED.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST COMING OFF IN SHEETS.
SO HE SUGGESTED THAT WE USE THE PAINT COLOR IN THE ACTUAL STUCCO, AND WE'RE GOING TO RE STUCCO THE ENTIRE HOME SO THAT IT WILL LAST FOR MUCH, MUCH LONGER THAN A PAINT JOB WOULD.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE WINDOWS WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS LIKE FOR, LIKE THOSE ARCH WINDOWS ARE BEAUTIFUL.
WE WANT THEM TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THEY ARE NOW.
SO IT'S VERY MUCH A SAFETY ISSUE FOR ME.
SO THE WINDOWS ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE REPLACED.
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IT IS DEFINITELY A SAFETY ISSUE.ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I HAVE ONE.
ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP THE WROUGHT IRON THAT'S ON THE WINDOWS? YES. I LOVE THE WROUGHT IRON.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT SANDBLASTED SO THAT IT COMES BACK TO.
IT'S ORIGINAL. I DON'T WANT TO PAINT OVER IT.
IT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN PAINTED MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES.
AND I WANT TO GET IT SANDBLASTED.
SO IT'S BACK TO IT'S ORIGINAL WROUGHT IRON.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IT SEEMS THE CURRENT PAINT COLOR IS A LITTLE BIT PINKY WITH PEACH, AND YOU'RE GOING CLOSER TO PEACH.
IT'S KIND OF AN ORANGEY COLOR.
THE CURRENT COLOR GET CLOSER TO THE HISTORIC WHITE WITH THE BROWNS AND BLACKS.
I BELIEVE HISTORICALLY IT WAS PROBABLY WHITE.
YES, THEY HAVE A COOL HISTORIC PHOTO.
OKAY. IT WASN'T OBVIOUSLY FROM 1925 WHEN IT WAS BUILT, BUT IT'S PRETTY THOUGH.
YEAH, YEAH, IT WAS IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
IT'S IN VERY BAD DISREPAIR NOW, UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT WE WANT TO BRING THE OLD GIRL BACK.
OKAY. THIS IS JUST A FUNNY WORD OF WARNING, THOUGH.
THE VERY FIRST DIRT STORM WE HAVE.
AFTER YOU PAINT IT WHITE, IT WILL NOT BE THAT WHITE ANYMORE.
I KNOW THE THE STUCCO GENTLEMAN DID WARN ME ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY.
AND THERE IS THE SADLY, THE THE LANDSCAPING IS NOT GREAT AROUND THERE.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH A LOT OF DIRT NOW, UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT WE PLAN TO PUT LANDSCAPING YOU KNOW, THAT BLACK PLASTIC DOWN QUICKLY, RIGHT AFTER IT'S STUCCOED.
WELL, THE DIRT WON'T EXACTLY ALWAYS COME FROM YOUR OWN YARD.
YEAH. I HAVE NOTICED THAT ABOUT ABILENE, TEXAS.
EVERY ABOUT ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR WE GET BIG DUST STORMS AND DIRT BLOWS IN FROM LUBBOCK.
SO ANYWAY, IT REALLY, IT REALLY WILL NOT STAY THAT WHITE.
SO JUST IT WON'T STAY THAT WAY.
IT JUST. DO YOU SUGGEST, LIKE DOING IT A LITTLE BIT OF A DARKER COLOR THAN THE WHITE.
NO, IT IT IT WILL BE BEAUTIFUL.
YEAH. IT'LL AGE, IT'LL, IT'LL GET A LITTLE BIT OF A ABILENE PATINA ON IT.
OKAY. WELL, RIGHT NEXT DOOR IS ALSO A HOME THAT IS HISTORICAL AND I'VE NOTICED IT'S MORE OF A, I'D SAY, ALMOST LIKE A REALLY LIGHT TAUPE.
IT'S GORGEOUS. AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR STUCCO AS WELL.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
YOU'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE WROUGHT IRON AND HAVE IT SANDBLASTED REMOTELY.
YES. THAT'S THE PLAN TO HAVE IT REMOVED AND THEN SANDBLASTED IF WE CAN.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO.
YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER SANDBLASTING IT ALL DOWN TO THE ORIGINAL WROUGHT IRON.
AND THEN MAYBE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO DO.
MAYBE PUT A COAT OF OIL BASED.
WELL, AND IF YOU'RE GOING WITH A BLACK AND WHITE THEME, WHICH IS VERY OH, WE LOST HER.
SHE'S GOING TO BE SO MAD AT ME.
DO YOU WANT TO BORROW A PHONE? OH, YES. I HAVE HER PHONE NUMBER IN MY BRAIN.
YEAH. ARE YOU SURE, SWEETHEART? I'M SO SORRY. WHO'S THIS? YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS CONVERSATION.
THANK YOU. HERE. YOU GOT YOURS.
YEAH. WE HAVE TO DO ALL THE METAL WINDOWS.
WE HAVE TO REMOVE THEM BECAUSE THE SANDBLASTING WILL RUIN THE BRICK.
IT'LL. IT'LL BREAK THAT STUCCO RIGHT DOWN.
HI. THIS IS MISS PEBBLES LEE'S PHONE BECAUSE MINE JUST DIED, I CAN'T.
ANYWAY, LET ME LET ME HOLD ON.
THIS IS GOING TO GO DOWN IN THE RECORDS, ISN'T IT? IT'S GREAT HERE.
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ARE YOU ARE YOU THERE? OKAY. SORRY.LET'S SEE. WE WERE SAYING ABOUT THE RED IRON.
BUT THAT'S ALL A VERY GOOD PLAN.
OKAY, I LIKE THAT THERE ARE POWDER.
THEY CAN DO THAT. BAKED ON POWDER COAT ALSO POWDER COATING.
OKAY I'M GOING TO WRITE THAT DOWN.
THAT'S THAT'S USUALLY DONE BY METAL WORKING SHOPS.
THEY CAN THEY CAN DO THAT? YEAH, I'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ASK THEM? I THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
WE ARE. AND WE'RE FIVE MINUTES FROM OUR GRANDBABY, SO THAT MAKES US VERY, VERY HAPPY.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE Y'ALL WANT TO SAY? DID DID WE DISCUSS THE COACH LIGHTS AT ALL? NO. LET'S SEE.
CAN YOU CAN Y'ALL GO BACK TO THE LIGHTING? THAT LIGHTING PICTURE? OH, YEAH. THE LIGHTING. OKAY, THERE IT IS.
I CHOSE THOSE, THE ONES THAT ARE ON THERE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE KEPT THEM.
THEY'RE KIND OF. THEY'RE FALLING OFF, ACTUALLY, AND ONE OF THEM IS DAMAGED AND DOESN'T WORK AT ALL.
AND THE GLASS IS BROKEN OUT OF ONE OF THEM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF HIDDEN WITH THAT COVERED PORCH AREA.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE AT THE GARAGE.
AND I CHOSE THESE BECAUSE IT WAS THE CLOSEST THING I COULD FIND THAT ALSO HAD THAT CHAMPAGNE LIKE COLORED GLASS TO MIRROR WHAT WAS ALREADY THERE.
THAT'S ALREADY THERE BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE IT'S KIND OF LIKE A GOLDY GLASS.
AND, AND IT'S ALSO A SPANISH STYLE, OBVIOUSLY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. LET ME SAY IT WAS IN THE APPLICATION THAT THEY WROTE OUT, BUT STAFF SO NUMBER SEVEN ON THEIR ON ON THEIR APPLICATION THAT THEY HAND WROTE OUT THEY ACTUALLY MENTIONED LIGHT FIXTURES.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS ON THE LIST THAT STAFF WROTE OUT.
OKAY. I THINK MASON MIGHT HAVE TAKEN THEM OFF.
SHE WASN'T SURE IF WE NEEDED TO HAVE APPROVAL, BUT I THINK I'D LIKE TO HAVE APPROVAL.
IF, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME TO LIKE AS MUCH AS AS MANY CHANGES AS WE HAVE, OR DO I WANT TO GET APPROVAL ON THEM? THE THE FRONT FACADE ON HISTORIC OVERLAY IS ALWAYS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT.
BUT ALSO, I MEAN, OVERALL THE LOOK OF THE WHOLE HOUSE, ESPECIALLY FROM THE STREET VIEW.
BUT THE FRONT FACADE IS IMPORTANT.
EVEN LIKE IF SOMEONE WAS WALKING UP TO THE PORCH OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOW IN YOUR APPLICATION, THE HANDWRITTEN APPLICATION, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE CHANGING OUT THE DOORS, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU ESPECIALLY COULD KEEP THE BACK OF THE HOME HAS TWO FRENCH DOORS AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME.
OKAY. BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE DAMAGED, FULLY DAMAGED, THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT SAFE.
OKAY. IT'S AN ENTRY FROM THE BACKYARD.
I. THAT FRONT DOOR IS BEAUTIFUL.
VERY MUCH IS PART OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THAT HOME.
AND IT HAS THERE'S ALSO AN OLD FASHIONED LIKE DOOR BELL ON IT THAT IS SO COOL.
I MEAN, I JUST LOVE THE WHOLE THING.
IS THE DOOR IS THE DOORBELL ACTUALLY ON THE DOOR OR NEXT TO IT.
IT'S KIND OF NEXT TO IT AND IT'S MECHANICAL.
IT'S LIKE JUST A CUTE LITTLE PULLSTRING WITH A BELL SO YOU CAN'T HEAR IT INSIDE THE HOUSE.
WE CAN SEE NOW THEY JUST PUT IT UP.
OH, IT IS REALLY CUTE DOOR KNOCKER ON THE DOOR AS WELL.
IT'S PRETTY. IT'S PRETTY COOL.
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THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL FRONT DOOR.THE BRASS PLATE IS NOT HISTORIC.
OH, THE BRASS PLATE ON THE BOTTOM.
IF YOU REMOVE THAT, IT'LL BE OKAY.
OKAY, OKAY, I WILL TAKE THAT OFF.
I WILL TAKE THAT OFF BECAUSE THAT THAT IS VERY PROBABLY 1980S.
WELL, THAT WHOLE TREND, THAT WHOLE TREND STARTED IN THE 1980S.
SO MUCH TO DO THAT, THAT I HAVEN'T EVEN NOTICED THE BRASS PLATE.
YEAH. THE IT'LL BE PRETTIER WITHOUT RESERVATIONS.
OKAY. THEY JOKE THAT FOR SURE.
IN THE 80S, THERE WAS THE BRASS IFICATION OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN AMERICA, WHICH IS FUNNY.
SO THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT HISTORIC.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOPE. WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO.
YOUR NEIGHBORS WILL APPRECIATE IT TOO.
YES. YOUR NEIGHBORS WILL BE VERY EXCITED.
WE'VE ALREADY MET OUR NEIGHBORS AND THEY'VE BEEN SO KIND AND WELCOMING, SO WE'RE GRATEFUL.
OKAY. IF NOW WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO KEEP HER ON FACETIME JUST SO THAT IF SHE CAN HEAR US, WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT.
OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS, WELL, THE WINDOWS BEING PAINTED SHUT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY CAN'T BE UNSTUCK AND MADE THEM MEAN THEY'RE 100 YEARS OLD.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT THE REPLACEMENT WERE.
IT JUST SAYS REPLACEMENT, WHETHER IT'S VINYL OR ALUMINUM OR THAT.
IS THERE, LIKE MARVIN WOOD WINDOWS OR WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S IF IT'S YOU KNOW, VINYL WINDOW THAT'S GOING TO GO IN THERE, THAT MAY BE A LITTLE SCARY.
CAN WE SEE THERE WERE THERE WERE SPECIFICATIONS OF THE VINYL WILL OF THE WINDOWS.
I'M SAYING VINYL, BUT CAN WE GO TO THE PICTURE, THE PHOTOS OF THE PROPOSED WINDOWS THAT'S TRUE. WE SHOULD HAVE.
WE MAY ASK THE APPLICANT IF YOU CAN COME BACK UP.
WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE WINDOWS, STEVE.
STEVE ASKED. WE WONDERED WHAT KIND OF WINDOWS IF THERE ARE VINYL WINDOWS OR ALUMINUM WINDOWS, OR IF THEY MIGHT BE MARVIN OR PELLA, YOU KNOW, HIGH END WINDOW TO REPLACE THOSE ARE THEY ARE A VINYL WINDOW.
THE ARCH ARE GOING TO BE JUST PURE GLASS.
BUT THE OTHER WINDOWS, LIKE, ON THE SIDE OF THE HOMES, WILL BE VINYL.
WE LOOKED INTO WOOD WINDOWS, AND WE ALSO LOOKED INTO LIKE A SYNTHETIC WOOD.
AND THAT IS NOT WHAT WE COULD AFFORD.
SO HAVE YOU TRIED THAT? WE WE FOUND THEY.
THEY'RE THE GENTLEMAN THAT IS DOING THEM I FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT ABOUT.
SO, LIKE, THE SASHES THAT ARE THERE WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME.
HE'S HE'S ORDERED THE LOOK OF THE HOME TO BE EXACTLY THE SAME.
AND THE WHAT IS IT CALLED? THE EDGES OF THEM WOULD BE WHITE.
BUT IF WE DO DO A WHAT'S IT CALLED, A CREAMIER COLOR? THEY CAN DO A SANDSTONE COLOR AROUND THE EDGES OF THE SO THAT IT WOULD MATCH BETTER IF WE CHOSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WHITE.
BUT BUT FOR NOW, IT WOULD BE LIKE A WHITE EDGING, BUT NOT AROUND THE THE ARCH WINDOWS.
THE ARCH WINDOWS WILL BE JUST PLAIN.
WHAT IS THE CONDITION OF THE WOODEN WINDOWS RIGHT NOW BESIDES BEING PAINTED SHUT? ARE THEY SOUND? EVERY SINGLE WINDOW IN THE HOME IS PAINTED SHUT LIKE YOU CANNOT OPEN THEM.
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MUCH OF THE WOOD IS ROTTEN, UNFORTUNATELY.CARPENTER ANTS AND TERMITE DAMAGE WE FOUND.
I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU THE AMOUNT OF TERMITE DAMAGE IN THIS HOME.
IT'S MORE THAN I'VE EVER SEEN.
YEAH. SO THEY'RE NOT IN GREAT SHAPE AT ALL.
OKAY. I'M NOT SURE WHY ANYONE WOULD PAINT A WINDOW SHUT.
THAT WAS VERY CONFUSING TO ME.
BUT YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR THEM? NO, I DON'T THINK SO OKAY.
MOST OF THE PRESERVATION GUIDELINES ARE AROUND.
THE SIGHT LINES ARE THE MULLIONS, 1.25IN OR 1.5IN, YOU KNOW.
IS THE SILL PLATE TWO INCHES OR IS IT TWO AND A HALF? AND IF YOU'RE CLOSE TO THOSE SIGHT LINES, PARTICULARLY IF YOU WERE GOING FOR A LARGER GRANT AT THE STATE OR FEDERAL LEVEL, YOU'D HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE.
EXACTLY. BUT IF YOUR WINDOW PROVIDER IS ABLE TO GET WITHIN A QUARTER INCH OF THAT, THOSE MEASUREMENTS, THEN YOU'D FULFILL THOSE THE GUIDELINES SET FORTH. SO BASICALLY WE NEED YOU ON THE BID, ON THE BID THAT THE COPY OF THE BID, WHAT THE THAT ETCHING IS WHAT HE SAYS.
MOST OF THE WINDOW MANUFACTURERS TRY TO GET CLOSE TO IT ANYWAY, SO IT GIVES YOU THE SAME LOOK THAT YOU HAD BEFORE THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST GIVING YOU A GENERIC WINDOW, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THERE. YEAH.
OKAY. YEAH. THEY'RE ALL CUSTOM.
YES, YES. WE JUST NEED YOU TO MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY AS CLOSE TO THE SAME LOOK AS POSSIBLE.
YES. AND WE ABSOLUTELY WANT THAT, TOO.
OKAY. AND IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE WOULD WANT ACTUALLY REPRODUCTION.
WE WOULD WANT THOSE WINDOWS RESTORED OR MADE OUT OF NEW WOODEN WINDOWS.
YES. BUT I KNOW MOST OF US UNDERSTAND IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT.
AND IT WAS JUST WAY OUT OF OUR OUR BUDGET.
I MEAN, WE WANTED TO EVEN DO THE ROOF.
WE WANTED TO DO THE ROOF AS WELL, BUT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THE ROOF.
THE, THE, THE MOST AFFORDABLE BIT ON THE ROOF WAS $36,000.
AND SO INSTEAD WE'VE JUST HAD IT REPAIRED FOR NOW.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD WE CAN DO THE ROOF, BUT NOT NOT NOW.
THERE'S SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT NEEDED REPAIRING IN THE HOME.
THE FACT THAT THE BID HAD EVERY SINGLE WINDOW IS OF A DIFFERENT, UNIQUE SIZE GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF FEELING THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO TRY TO SLAM THE SAME WINDOW IN AND CAULK THE DIFFERENCE THAT THESE ARE MADE TO FIT FOR YOUR HOUSE.
NO, I WAS LOOKING AT THE SIZES.
OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN.
I AM COMFORTED THAT THEY ARE KEEPING THE FRONT DOOR BECAUSE IN THE ORIGINAL KIND OF HANDWRITTEN APPLICATION, IT SAID THAT THEY MIGHT THEY WERE CONSIDERING POSSIBLY REPLACING THE SIDE AND FRONT DOOR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP THAT ONE.
THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL FRONT DOOR.
WHITE AND BLACK TO ME THAT THERE ARE MANY HISTORIC HOUSES OF THIS STYLE THAT HAVE ARE WHITE AND BLACK.
IT'S I'M NOT SURE IT'S COMPLETELY, REALLY, REALLY WHITE, BUT IT IS A VERY PRETTY CREAM.
SO. FROM THE STREET IT LOOKS WHITE WE'LL HAVE A MOTION FOR CA 2020 404.
SO ANYONE ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? SO MOVED. WE HAVE A SECOND.
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YEAH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.AND THE MOTION TO APPROVE CARRIES.
AND NOW WE HAVE A QUICK STAFF STATEMENT, AND THEN WE WILL ADJOURN.
WE NEED YOU ALL TO CONFIRM IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE OR NOT.
SO WE CAN, IF WE NEED TO SCHEDULE ALTERNATES TO BE UP HERE IN YOUR PLACE, WE CAN GET THEM LINED UP.
OR IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FULL BOARD, THEN WE TELL THEM THEY CAN GO PLAY GAMES, BUT WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE HERE SO THAT WE CAN GET THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND THIS COMMISSION DONE.
SO IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE US A HAND, I THINK IT'LL MAKE ALL OF OUR JOBS A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
AND JUST A REPLY, BUT DO NOT REPLY ALL.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.