Jan 28, 2025 Landmarks Commission

[CALL TO ORDER]

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MOTION. >> OKAY, ARE WE READY? OKAY. WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS THE ABILENE LANDMARKS COMMISSION AND THE OVERALL PURPOSE IS TO ADMINISTER THE PROVISIONS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR THE PROTECTION AND PRESERVATION OF LOCAL HISTORIC PROPERTIES. THE COMMISSION ACTS ONLY AS A RECOMMENDING BOARD TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS OF HISTORIC OVERLAY ZONING. HOWEVER, THE COMMISSION IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY FOR APPROVAL ON CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, APPLICATIONS, AND HISTORIC PROJECT TAX REDUCTION CASES.

DECISIONS REGARDING CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS MAY BE APPEALED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BY WRITTEN REQUEST TO THE DIRECTOR OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE NO LATER THAN 15 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS MEETING. DECISIONS REGARDING THE PROJECT AND TAX REDUCTION MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CONSTITUENTS BY WRITTEN REQUEST TO THE SECRETARY NO LATER THAN 10 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS MEETING. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO SPEAK ON THE DISCUSSION BY THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION AFTER RECEIVING RECOGNITION BY THE CHAIR. THOSE WISHING TO BE HEARD SHALL APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME. ADDITIONAL TIME MAY

[1. Minutes: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Minutes from the Regular Scheduled Meeting Held on November 26, 2024]

MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? >> SO MOVED.

>> I SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF

APPROVING THE MINUTES? >> AYE.

>> ANYONE OPPOSED? THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. AGENDA ITEMS.

[2. CA-2025-01: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request for Certificate of Appropriateness (CA) to Demolish and Rebuild an Accessory Building Located at 2042 S. 8th Street. (Mason Teegardin)]

HOPEFULLY. >> HAVING A BIT OF A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.

DO YOU RECALL IT FROM MEMORY? >> I COULD GO PRINT US

SOMETHING. >> FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD THOUGH THAT IS RECORDING IT. I AM NOT SURE THIS HAS EVER HAPPENED --

EVER. IN OVER 30 YEARS. >> THAT IS THE TRUTH.

>> I WILL BRING MY LITTLE LAPTOP. DOES EVERYONE IN THE COMMISSION GET TO SEE THE PACKET? DID YOU ALL GET TO SEE AND LOOK AT THE PHOTOS? MASON, WE HAVE ALL SEEN THE PACKET AND

THE PHOTOS. >> COLLECTIVELY, WE COULD

DESCRIBE IT TO YOU. >> WE HAVE SEEN THEM, SO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE, SO -- THE DEMOLITION ITSELF IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THE MATERIALS SELECTED.

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>> WE ARE SORRY. GOODNESS. THIS HAS NEVER, EVER HAPPENED.

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>> OKAY, STAFF REPORT. >> OKAY. HERE WE GO. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MASON TEEGARDIN AND I AM A DIVISION MANAGER FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE. I WILL BE PRESENTING CASE CA-2025-01 . THE OWNER IS ERICA AND JOHN GALLAGHER AND THE REQUEST IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO DEMOLISH AND REBUILD AN ACCESSORY BUILDING LOCATED AT 2042 SOUTH 8TH STREET . THE MORRISON BARNHILL HOUSE BUILT IN 1932 IS A ONE-STORY LARGE BRICK RESIDENTS FEATURING A LARGE PORCH WITH BRICK COLUMNS. THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOME IS PRETTY GETTING TO THE -- THE LOT HAS A CONTRIBUTING ONE-STORY GARAGE ON THE REAR END OF THE PROPERTY IN AN ADDITIONAL GARAGES/CARRIAGE HOUSE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY FACING SOUTH EIGHTH. HERE WE HAVE THE LOCATION MAP. AND AN AERIAL MAP.

AND THE ZONING MAP. IT IS ZONED FINGAL -- SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT IS BEING DEMOLISHED AND REBUILT. HERE ARE THE PROPOSED PAINT SAMPLES AND AN ELEVATION SKETCH FOR THE NEW BUILDING AND THE PAINT SAMPLES TO THE LEFT.

THESE COLORS ARE THE PREVIOUS APPROVED COLORS THAT WERE FROM A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. I BELIEVE IN 2015, THESE WERE THE EXACT SAMPLES THAT WERE USED THAT THEY WILL MATCH. THE STAFF REVIEW THIS PURSUANT TO THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR THE REHABILITATION OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. IF ITEMS ARE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION, LAND DEVELOP IN SECTION 2.3.4.4 REQUIRES THAT THE WORK APPROVED IN THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS SHALL COMMENCE WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF THE APPROVAL OF THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION. IF WORK DOES NOT COMMENCE WITHIN SIX MONTHS, THE APPROVAL OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS SHALL EXPIRE.

THE APPLICANT MAY REQUEST AN EXTENSION TO THE EXPIRATION DEADLINE PROVIDED A COMPLETED EXTENSION REQUEST IS SUBMITTED AT LEAST 30 DAYS FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS EXPIRES. AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

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>> WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION?

>> THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> ALL THE DIMENSIONS ARE WITHIN THE SAME PARAMETERS?

>> WITHIN -- I BELIEVE THEY ARE ADDING A FOOT TO THE SIDE GOING TOWARDS THE HOUSE, SO THAT WOULD BE THE WEST SIDE, AND THEN I BELIEVE AN ADDITIONAL FOOT IN THE REAR.

>> THAT IS TO ACCOMMODATE A NEW STANDARD SIZED DOOR AND FIRE

CODE? >> CORRECT.

>> SEEING THE PICTURES, THIS IS IT. YOU WONDER HOW THEY WERE

STAYING IN THERE, THE BRICKS. >> HOPE. HOPE WAS HOLDING IT

TOGETHER. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MASON?

THANK YOU, MASON. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT. NOW WE WILL OPEN THE MEETING UP TO THE PUBLIC AND ANYONE CAN COME SPEAK AT THE PODIUM. IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME SPEAK, PLEASE STATE

YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> HELLO, ERICA, 2042 SOUTH 8TH STREET. I KNOW A COUPLE OF YOU . I DO NOT HAVE MUCH TO SAY OTHER THAN SOME OF YOU KNOW THAT I AM A LOCAL INTERIOR DESIGNER AND ALSO A REALTOR AND ARCHITECTURE IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND I HAVE SERVED WITH YOU ON THE BOARD BEFORE. THIS BUILDING IS NOW EMPTY IN ANTICIPATION OF IT FALLING DOWN ON ITS OWN. WE HAVE A MINI POT OUT IN THE FRONT. OUR CONTRACTOR IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN BY, YOU NOTICE THERE IS A NEW FENCE CONSTRUCTED. WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN IMPROVING AND MAINTAINING THE QUALITY OF THE PROPERTY. WITHIN HISTORIC PARAMETERS. IF THERE IS ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE BLUE AND ORANGE THING HAPPENING AT 11TH AND SAYLES, I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THAT LATER. THANKS TO THEM, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME SPEAK? OKAY.

WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

THE ONLY TIME I EVER RECALL -- IT HAS BEEN MAYBE 20 YEARS, BUT WE DID APPROVE ALMOST THE EXACT CASE 20 YEARS AGO ON BEACH STREET FOR THE SPENCER FAMILY. THEY HAD A BACK GARAGE AND IT WAS IN VERY BAD SHAPE AND THEY BUILT A REPLICA, SO THIS IS A VERY SIMILAR CASE. WAY BACK THEN, WE DID APPROVE IT. ANY DISCUSSION? DO I HAVE A MOTION?

>> SO MOVED. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

THIS APPROPRIATENESS. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> DOES THAT NEED TO STAY WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION? THE MCCANN WE GO BACK TO THAT? I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST -- I DID NOT THINK THESE WERE CONDITIONS. BUT AS THEY DID IT WAS -- THAT THE REQUIREMENT IS PART OF THE ORDINANCE. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. THIS IS JUST MAKING THE APPLICANT AWARE THAT THESE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE. THEY ARE NOT REALLY CONDITIONS THAT WOULD BE ATTACHED TO THE MOTION.

>> MAYBE MAKE A MOTION -- HAS STATED THAT THE PARAMETERS, AS BUILT, IF WE WANT TO. THEY HAVE SPELLED OUT WHAT THEY WILL

REBUILD. >> DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BECAUSE IT WILL FOLLOW THE PARAMETERS SET FORTH FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE

DEPARTMENT. >> I CANNOT HEAR EVERYTHING, EVEN OVER HERE. CAN YOU PULL YOUR MICROPHONE A BIT CLOSER SO

IT CAN BE RECORDED? >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THAT THE APPLICANT FOLLOW THE GUIDANCE OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF SAID BUILDING.

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WOULD THAT FOLLOW? >> THAT IS FINE. YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE IT FOR APPROPRIATENESS IN ADDITION TO

WHAT YOU JUST SAID? OKAY. >> WHAT SHE SAID.

>> I WILL STILL SECOND. >> YEAH.

>> MR. BLACK? >>

>> THE MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT MEANS WE CAN BUILD IT, RIGHT?

>> YES, AS LAID OUT IN THE PLAN.

[3. HPTR-2025-01: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request from Maria David to Apply for a Historic Project Tax Reduction in the Amount of $15,577.00. Located at 601 Sayles Blvd. Legal description being Lots 1-3, Block 2, of The Highland Addition, Abilene, Taylor County, Texas. (Mason Teegardin)]

>> GOT YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS HPTR-2025-01 . RECEIVE REPORT HOLDING THE DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM MARIA DAVID TO APPLY FOR A HISTORIC PROJECT TAX REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,577 LOCATED AT 601 SAYLES BOULEVARD . LEGAL DESCRIPTION BEING LOTS ONE THROUGH THREE, LOT 2 OF THE HIGHLAND ADDITION. THAT IS AN APPLING COUNTY -- IN APPLING

COUNTY. >> I AM GOING TO BE PRESENTING CASE HPTR-2025-01 . THE OWNER IS MARIA DAVID AND THE REQUEST IS A HISTORIC PROJECT TAX REDUCTION REQUESTING A REDUCTION IN THE CITY OF ABILENE PROPERTY TAXES FOR AN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,577 LOCATED AT 601 SAYLES BOULEVARD . HERE WE HAVE A LOCATION MAP. WE HAVE AN AERIAL MAP. AND A ZONING MAP.

ZONE, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH HISTORICAL RELAY. HERE, WE HAVE THE INVOICE ATTACHMENTS FROM THE PROJECT THAT WAS ON THE CERTIFICATE, FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS SEE A -- IT WAS APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2024. WE HAVE THOSE DETAILED INVOICES ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE. WE HAVE ALL THE FAÇADE REPAIRS, BRICKS, MORTAR, THINGS LIKE THAT AND ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, WE HAVE THE GUTTERS. HERE ARE SOME CURRENT PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. HERE ARE AFTER THE REPAIRS WERE MADE. AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS. IT WAS APPROVED TO DO GUTTERS ON THE REAR ACCESSORY BUILDING, SO THOSE PHOTOS ARE PROVIDED AS WELL. THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 30 E- 41 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED -- SORRY.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS HISTORICAL ZONING, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF 1996. THE TOTAL COST FOR THE PROJECT WAS $15,577 . THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WAS APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2024 AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE REPAIRS WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND PROTECT THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY OF THE HOME AND THE ENVIRONMENT. ALL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT WERE MADE TO THE EXTERIOR AND MEET THE REQUIRED ELIGIBLE PROJECT AND EXPENSE ITEMS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE THE STAFF REPORT AND OPEN COMMENTS UP TO THE PUBLIC. IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK, THEY CAN. STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS, PLEASE. >> I AM MARIE DAVID. I AM THE DAUGHTER. ANYWAY, WE HAVE ALL THE REPAIRS DONE. DO YOU HAVE

ANY QUESTIONS? >> IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.

>> IT LOOKS A LOT. AND I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, BUT THE WALL ON THE SIDE OF THE STEPS, THAT IS NOT FALLING OVER ANYMORE, SO THAT IS MUCH BETTER.

>> NO MORE WATER ISSUES? >> I DO NOT KNOW. I -- WE ARE REPLACING THE SEWER LINE AND THE BEAM. IT IS NOT IN THE CONCRETE.

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>> IT SURE IS PRETTY THOUGH. >> I KEEP FEELING LIKE WE ARE

GETTING CLOSER. >> THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE INSIDE. HAVE YOU ALL EVER BEEN INSIDE THAT HOUSE? IT IS

GORGEOUS. >> YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONTRACTORS AND WORKERS COME THROUGH AND THEY ARE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, THE WORKMANSHIP AND WHEN YOU GET UP IN THE ATTIC OR UNDER THE HOUSE, THE WAY IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, IT WAS CONSTRUCTED

REALLY WELL. >> ON THE PREVIOUS OWNER WORKED

REALLY HARD. >> I AM SURE THEY HAD.

>> THEY DID SOME AMAZING WORK ON THAT HOUSE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR

THE APPLICANT? >> I DID NOT SAY WE HAD ANY DETAILS FOR THE GROUT? WE DO NOT REALLY WORRY ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THE COLOR, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD GROUND JOB.

>> THE PROBLEM FOR HIM WAS IT WAS A DIFFERENT COLOR, EVEN ON THE SAME WALL, IT WAS A DIFFERENT COLOR. HE WORKED REALLY HARD TO MATCH IT. IT TOOK MUCH LONGER THAN HE THOUGHT.

>> WE APPRECIATE THAT. >> THE GUTTERS ARE REALLY

INCREDIBLE. >> THEY ARE REALLY PRETTY.

>> MY SON TOLD ME I PAID WAY TOO MUCH FOR THEM.

>> THEY ARE REALLY PRETTY. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE WHOLE IDEA OF MAKING SURE THE WATER GOES AWAY FROM THE

HOUSE, SO -- >> ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER, ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE 15,500 $77 -- $15,577 TAX CREDIT AS PRESENTED.

>> I SECOND THAT. >> MR. BLACK?

>> YES. >>

>> THE MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT. IT IS ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS. WE ARE THANKFUL FOR YOU. AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. ALL RIGHT.

>> YOU REALLY DID A NICE JOB.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.