[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:10] 08:30 A.M. AND I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ABILENE CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. I HAVE SOME VERY, VERY SPECIAL GUESTS I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE HERE IN A MOMENT. BUT FIRST I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCILMAN MCALLISTER TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION. LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND DO THE THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TASKED US TO DO AS FAR AS WORKING IN AND RUNNING AND MANAGING THIS GREAT CITY THAT WE CALL HOME. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE FOLKS THAT WORK HERE THAT THAT WORK SO HARD. THIS MORNING. GOD, WE WE PRAY A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR THE WINDHAM FAMILY. AND THE PASSING OF BECKY, WHO SPENT SO MANY YEARS IN DEDICATION TO THIS. TO TO THE CITY THAT SHE LOVED. WE PRAY FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, FOR THE FOLKS THAT WORK OUT EVERY DAY AND ARE IN ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT THAT THAT MAYBE GO UNNOTICED, BUT WHOSE JOBS ARE SO VITALLY IMPORTANT. WE PRAY FOR GUIDANCE AS WE, AS WE MAKE DECISIONS TODAY. WE WE, AS ALWAYS, PRAY THAT YOU'LL BRING US SOME RAIN. AND WE HOPE THAT WE GET SOME SOON. HELP US TO ALWAYS REMEMBER WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE ASKED TO DO IN CHRIST. AND WE PRAY. AMEN. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. I HAVE SOME SPECIAL GUESTS, AND I'VE GOT SOME REALLY, REALLY GOOD NAMES TODAY. SO, MEMPHIS AND KINGSLEY, WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR HANDS? AND THEIR DAD, JEREMY'S HERE, AND I HAVE HESS AND LUKE AND AMANDA. THEIR PARENTS ARE HERE, AND I HAD SCOTLAND. AND. IS IT KELLY? HERE HE IS. AND THEIR PRINCIPAL, CHRISTY YOUNG EGAN. CHRISTY AND I GO WAY BACK. SO THEY'RE GOING TO LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGES TODAY. THEY ARE ALL FROM AL CORDA ELEMENTARY, AND WE'RE SO EXCITED AND BLESSED TO HAVE THEM TODAY. SO I'LL TURN IT AROUND RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE AT. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. UNDER THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE IN INDIVISIBLE. AND IT'S THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL. YEAH, MAN. YEAH, YOU CAN COME UP HERE. I DIDN'T HEAR THEM. THIS WAS A VERY ENTHUSIASTIC BUNCH. I'M SO PROUD OF Y'ALL. COME UP HERE. IF ANY OF Y'ALL WANT TO COME UP HERE, YOU. AIN'T HOW WE LOOK RIGHT HERE. Y'ALL GET ON UP HERE. GOT TO HIT ZUMA'S WATCH. YEAH. LOOK AT THAT. HOLD ON. PRINCIPAL. RYAN. YEAH. THANK YOU. SIR. I HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU. HAPPY FIRST DAY OF SUMMER. YEAH. YOU COME ON. THIS WAY. OKAY. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. TRAVIS HAS FALLEN MANY TIMES. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MCALLISTER. [PRESENTATIONS, RECOGNITIONS, PROCLAMATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS] DID MENTION ABOUT THE LOSS OF OUR WONDERFUL CITY EMPLOYEE. AND IF Y'ALL WOULD JUST BEAR WITH ME, I'M GOING TO READ A PREPARED STATEMENT. BECKY SERVED A CITY ACCOUNTANT AND DEDICATED AN INCREDIBLE 53 YEARS AND TEN MONTHS OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. HER COMMITMENT, PROFESSIONALISM AND UNWAVERING DEDICATION LEFT A LASTING IMPACT ON ALL WHO HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ALONGSIDE HER. BECKY COMES FROM A FAMILY OF CITY SERVANTS. HER HUSBAND, AL, IS A CITY RETIREE AND HER SON ERIC IS A CURRENT WATER EMPLOYEE. SHE WAS MORE THAN A COLLEAGUE. SHE WAS A FRIEND, A MENTOR, AND A CORNERSTONE OF OUR ORGANIZATION. SHE WILL BE DEEPLY MISSED BY EVERYONE WHO KNEW HER, AND HER LEGACY WILL CONTINUE TO INSPIRE US. THIS LEAVES A VERY LARGE VOID IN OUR CITY. SHE LOVED THIS CITY. AND AND SHE LOVED DEEPLY EVERYONE THAT SHE WORKED WITH. AND SHE WILL BE MISSED. [00:05:10] WE WILL NOW MOVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH NINE. [CONSENT AGENDA AND PUBLIC COMMENTS] THESE ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED WITH ONE MOTION, AND THERE'LL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION UNLESS THE COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS SEPARATE DISCUSSION. DOES ANYONE ON COUNCIL WISH TO CONSIDER ANY ITEM INDIVIDUALLY? NUMBER FOUR. AND NUMBER NINE, PLEASE. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THERE WILL BE NO VOTES OR ANY FORMAL ACTIONS TAKEN ON SUBJECTS PRESENTED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL ONLY ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PRESENT IDEAS AND INFORMATION TO CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND THE CITY YOU RESIDE IN. FOR THE RECORD, THERE WILL BE A THREE MINUTE LIMIT. WE HAVE ONE CARD. MR.. CARTER. OKAY. PETE COSTA, JUNIOR. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS PETE STOKES ACOSTA, JR. BORN AND RAISED IN ABILENE, TEXAS. MY ISSUE IS THE CEMETERY. SINCE I'VE BEEN BORN HERE, WE HAVE NEVER LOOKED AT THE CEMETERY THE WAY WE SHOULD. IT'S NEGLECTED AND IT'S ABUSED. WE HAVE PICTURES TO SHOW THAT FOR SOME REASON, THEY'RE ATTACKING OUR FAMILY. I HATE TO SAY THAT. THAT AIN'T WHAT I COME HERE FOR. BUT IF I DON'T SPEAK OUT, IT'S GOING TO BE DONE OVER AND OVER. 1976, MY GRANDPA DIED. WE HAVE A HOUSE THERE. IF I GO THERE, YOU'LL SEE A HOUSE THERE, RIGHT ACROSS SAINT FRANCIS. OKAY? MY GRANDPA BUILT THAT HOUSE. I USED TO GO THERE AND PUT MY LAWN MOWER, MY WEED EATER AND ALL THAT TO CLEAN UP OUR AREA. OKAY. WE KEPT OUR AREA CLEAN, SO EVER SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAD TROUBLE. THE CITY HAS TOLD US NOT TO DO THIS, NOT TO DO THAT. BUT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING IT. AND ALL WE WANT TO KNOW IS WHY ARE WE BEING PICKED ON? WHY ARE WE LOOKED AT AND WE HAVE PROOF OF IT? IT'S NOT A HEARSAY AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS CEMETERY LOOK BETTER, AND IT'S SOMEONE LIKE THEY'RE ATTACKING US TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. YOU KNOW, THEY TOLD ME TEN YEARS AGO WE WERE GOING TO DO THE ROADS. THE ROADS ARE TERRIBLE. WE SHOULD BE MORE OR LESS ASHAMED OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE. YOU KNOW, AS A CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVER BEEN THERE, IF I HAVE FAMILY THERE. BUT IT'S UGLY. THE ROADS ARE TERRIBLE, YOU KNOW. NOW THE VETERANS ARE BEING LEFT BEHIND. ALSO, IF YOU GO OVER THERE AND LOOK AT THE VETERANS, THEY ARE UGLY. YOU GO TO THE NEW ONE. EVERYBODY LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. NOW, WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE NEW CEMETERY FOR THE MILITARY. WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS ONE? WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH GRASS. THEY COME AND CUT THE GRASS, BUT THEY WON'T EVEN CUT IT. YOU GO ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. IT LOOKS TERRIBLE. THIS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE. WE'RE LEADERS. RIGHT? THIS IS WHAT WE VOTED FOR, Y'ALL. LET'S DO SOMETHING. LET'S NOT NEGLECT IT. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1961. NOTHING'S BEEN DONE. NOT ONE MAYOR OR NOT. ONE CITY COUNCIL HAS JUMPED ON IT. LET'S DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. WE'RE NOT HERE TO COMPLAIN AS MUCH. AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF US. IT'S GOING TO BE BURIED OUT THERE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. MY SISTER HAS PICTURES. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SHOW IT TO Y'ALL TO PROVE WHAT'S GOING ON. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL EVER WALK OUT THERE. IF Y'ALL GO TO THE CEMETERY OUT THERE. BUT Y'ALL NEED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, PEOPLE. Y'ALL NEED TO GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT WHAT THE NEGLECT IS AND THE ABUSE NOW. SO MUCH THAT WE CAN WE CAN SAY MORE ABOUT ABILENE. THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON THE STREETS AND ALL THAT. BUT NO ONE'S LOOKING AT THE CEMETERY AND WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHY. I DON'T KNOW IF EACH ONE OF Y'ALL HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THERE, AND IF Y'ALL DO, Y'ALL KNOW WHAT WE GO THROUGH. EVERY DAY WE GO THROUGH THIS. YOU KNOW, MY SISTER CRIES AT NIGHT BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DID. THEY THREW EVERYTHING OF OUR STUFF. EVERYTHING. FLOWERS. EVERYTHING. MY MY, MY BROTHERS, THEIR CARS. THEY THREW IT AWAY. WHY DIDN'T YOU THROW NEXT DOOR? THAT'S WHERE WE WENT TO ASK FOR. WHY DIDN'T YOU THROW THESE PEOPLE AWAY? AND STILL TO THIS DAY, IT'S STILL THERE. THEY SAID AGAIN. SEVEN DAYS JOB. THE GUY THAT WORKED THERE. NEXT THURSDAY, WE'RE GOING TO TEAR IT UP. STILL THERE. SO WHY Y'ALL DON'T KNOW? BECAUSE Y'ALL DON'T GO OUT THERE. BUT YOUR PEOPLE THAT WORK. THEY GOT TO BE RESPONSIBLE. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE'VE GONE THROUGH EVERY PROCESS THEY TELL US TO. WE JUST THROW IT AWAY. THIS IS 1976, SO LET'S DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I'M A CITIZEN HERE. LET'S WORK TOGETHER. BECAUSE IF NOT, WHAT FOR? ARE WE UNITED? WE'RE NOT UNITED. WE'RE JUST SEPARATED. SO I SEE MY TAXES SHOULD GO OUT. BUT PLEASE, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS PERSONAL. YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL WANT, WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND WALK OUT THERE, AND WE WILL SHOW Y'ALL. YOU KNOW, THAT WAY, Y'ALL KNOW IT'S NOT HEARSAY. YOU KNOW THESE ARE FACTS. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THEY'RE FACTS, BUT NO ONE'S LOOKING AT THEM. NOW, NOW THAT CITY LEADERS, I THINK Y'ALL SHOULD LOOK AT IT MORE DEEPLY THAN WE AS CITIZENS SHOULD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE BEING NEGLECTED. THANK YOU SIR. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO EMAIL THOSE PICTURES TO US. [00:10:03] OKAY. SHE'S GOT THEM RIGHT THERE. JUST FOR YOU. JUST TO EMAIL. OKAY. TO US. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. BUT THANK YOU COUNCIL@ABILENE.GOV. THAT'LL GO TO ALL OF US. THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO AN INTERVIEW. JUST COUNCIL AT ABILENE TX.GOV. OKAY. THAT'LL COME TO ALL OF US. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE TAKE THIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. STILL IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? NO. OKAY. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT Y'ALL WILL. I THINK. OH, GOSH, I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN. THE. YEAH, THE LITTLE DID I WRITE IT DOWN? THE LITTLE SHORES NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE LITTLE ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD IS GETTING THERE. THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD REPAVED, AND WE'VE GOT A CONTRACT OUT FOR THAT. FOR ONE POINT I CAN'T FIND IT AT $1.9 MILLION. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S ONE OF LIKE 6 OR 7 PROJECTS THAT Y'ALL DO. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THE STREET MAINTENANCE FEES ARE GOING TOWARDS THAT. AND ALSO, I NOTICED THE STREET MAINTENANCE ADVISORY BOARD MEETING WAS CANCELED FOR JUNE. AND SO IT'S SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE GOTTEN THEIR BOARD EMAILS WORKED OUT TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY EMAIL THEM, BUT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN EMAIL THEM AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT STREETS THEY WANT TACKLED. I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT ON THE SCHEDULING, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IF AFTER THE MEETING HAPPENED, IT WOULDN'T SAY CANCELED. IT WOULD JUST SAY COMPLETED OR FINISHED, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS STARTING THIS OUT, I WOULD SEE IT WAS CANCELED AND I THOUGHT I'D JUST THE THE MEETING WAS CANCELED. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT AFTER A MEETING IS COMPLETED, LIKE TODAY, IT'LL SAY CITY COUNCIL MEETING CANCELED, WHICH IS NOT TRUE BECAUSE IT'S JUST BEEN COMPLETED. SO IT WOULD JUST MAKE THINGS A LITTLE EASIER FOR CITIZENS TO PAY ATTENTION TO. AND I THINK THAT'S IT FOR TODAY. WHICH IS GREAT. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT THERE'S NOT A LOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE WORK ON JUST MAKING IT STREAMLINED FOR CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT AS A CITIZENS, I'VE WORKED DOING THIS FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET INVOLVED. AND IT'S REALLY LIKE IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A CLUB THAT'S HARD TO GET INTO. AND SO I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE THAT SO THAT IT MAKES PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND BE A PART OF IT, LIKE CITIZENS WHO ARE HERE TODAY SO THAT, YOU KNOW I HAVE TO REACH OUT AND INITIATE EVERY CONVERSATION, EVEN THOUGH I'VE SHOWN THAT I'M HERE FOR THE LONG HAUL AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I KNOW, NO, NOT EVERYBODY WILL. AND SO I KNOW KATE ALVAREZ IS THE DOWNTOWN COORDINATOR, AND I LIKE TO THINK OF MYSELF AS THE REST OF THE ABILENE COORDINATOR, BECAUSE I KNOW THE DOWNTOWN GETS ATTENTION. BUT WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION SAID THAT SHE WAS SO GRATEFUL FOR WHAT KATE HAD DONE TO HELP HER UNDERSTAND ALL THE COMPLICATED PARTS OF WHAT HAPPENS AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. BECAUSE THE DOWNTOWN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TIME TO LEARN THESE THINGS. I REALIZE NOBODY HAS TIME TO LEARN THESE THINGS, SO WE NEED MORE COMMUNICATION TO THE CITIZENS. AND IF THE DOWNTOWN PEOPLE CAN GET IT, THEN I THINK THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY CAN DO IT. AND UNTIL Y'ALL PROVIDE THAT PERSON, I'M HAPPY TO FILL THOSE SHOES. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STILL, IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SEEING NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ITEMS TWO THROUGH NINE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FOUR AND NINE. SO MOVED. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCALLISTER SECOND. SORRY. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD BRIAN. SECOND. YOU CAN'T TOUCH IT. THERE'S NO VOTING YET. NOT GOING TO WORK. OKAY. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN YATES, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'RE READY TO VOTE. COUNCILMEMBER MCALLISTER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER CRAVER. YES. MAYOR PRO TEM YATES. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. REAGAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. PRICE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BEARD. YES. AND MAYOR. HURT. YES. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION CARRIES. NOW WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NINE. AND COUNCILMAN MCALLISTER, YOU PULLED THIS OUT. EXCUSE ME. THAT'S OKAY. [4. Resolution: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Take Action on Accepting the Plum the Peacock, Turtles, and Giving Tree Sculptures as part of the City of Abilene Sculpture Collection (Lesli Andrews)] NO, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND, LESLIE, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP, THAT'S FINE. IF NOT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SUCH A GREAT THING FOR OUR CITY, WHICH IS COMING UP. AND I JUST WANTED JUST JUST TO GIVE THE THE THE VIEWERS AND THE FOLKS JUST AN IDEA OF WHAT'S COMING UP AND TO SHOW OUR NEW SCULPTURES. FOR FOR THE CALF FESTIVAL. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LESLIE ANDREWS, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. YES. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST SCULPTURES THAT ARE BEING INSTALLED IN WHAT HAS BEEN CALLED STORYBOOK TWO OR CLEAR FORK BANK AND STORYBOOK GARDENS. AND IT WILL BE TURTLES THAT WILL BE ALONG A FOUNTAIN, WHICH WILL ALSO BE NEW TO THAT LOCATION. PLUM. THE PEACOCK WILL BE LOCATED IN THAT AREA, AS WELL AS WHAT IS CALLED THE GIVING TREE. WE WEREN'T 100% SURE IT WOULD BE READY IN TIME FOR CALF FESTIVAL, BUT WE DID GET WORD THIS WEEK THAT IT WILL BE AND IS ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF BEING INSTALLED. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BRING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THE CITIZENS OF ABILENE AND EXPAND OUR SCULPTURES. [00:15:02] THAT WAS IT. I MEAN, THIS CAF IS SUCH A GREAT THING. I JUST WANTED, I GUESS I COULD FLIP. YEAH. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST ITEM FOUR. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION IN A SECOND. SO MOVED. HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCALLISTER. SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CRAVER. FURTHER DISCUSSION. WE'RE READY TO VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER MCALLISTER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CRAVER. YES. MAYOR PRO TEM. YATES. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. REGAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. PRICE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BEARD. YES. AND. MAYOR. HART. YES. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION CARRIES. WE NOW MOVE TO ITEM NINE. [9. Resolution: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion, and Take Action to Approve Amendment 1 to the Terminal Expansion and Improvements Design Task Order with Parkhill (Don Green)] AND, COUNCILMAN YATES, YOU HAD ASKED THIS ITEM TO BE PULLED? YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST HAD A FEW QUESTIONS. REVIEWING THE THE DOCUMENTS THAT WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE PHASE TWO FEE PROPOSALS. THE EXPLANATION FOR SOME OF THE INCREASES WERE UNCLEAR TO ME, AND I JUST THOUGHT THERE'S PROBABLY REASONS OR MISLABELING OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH A DISCUSSION TO CLARIFY THAT. YES, SIR. DON GREEN, DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO, YES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IT LOOKS IN THE COMMENTS SECTION. PARTICULARLY FOR THE TOPOGRAPHY AND THE LIDAR SCANNING. THERE'S SOME NOTES THAT REMAINED FROM THE PREVIOUS FROM THE ORIGINAL TASK ORDER IN THAT WE HAD THE LIDAR SCAN, WHICH IS A BASICALLY IT SCANS THE ENTIRE BUILDING INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND GIVES ALL OF THE ANGLES AND EVERYTHING THAT ARCHITECTS USE. AND COLIN WITH PARK HILL IS HERE, AND HE CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT TECHNICALLY THAN I CAN, BUT WE HAD THAT FROM A PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET FOR FROM OUR PREVIOUS ARCHITECT TO PARK HILL, SO THAT CUT THAT OUT. BUT BECAUSE OF THE THE EXPANDED SCOPE OF WORK FROM THE ORIGINAL TASK ORDER WHEN, WHEN WE GOT INTO THE CHARETTE AND STARTED WORKING ON WHAT THE CONCEPT ACTUALLY EVOLVED TO BE, THEN THERE WE HAD A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROJECT, ALMOST STILL ACCOMPLISHING THE SAME THINGS, BUT LIKE WE HAD NOT CONTEMPLATED IN THE ORIGINAL TASK ORDER ABOUT EXPANDING THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING ON THE LOWER LEVEL. SO DOING THAT AND REARRANGING HOW THINGS WERE GOING TO BE DONE THAT CAUSED MORE TOPOGRAPHY WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY A SUB CONSULTANT NAMED CENTURION. SO THAT WAS THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT APPROXIMATELY $29,000 INCREASE IN THAT ITEM IS LINE ITEM IS FOR THE COMMENTS. DO NOT CAPTURE THAT. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THEY DON'T. YES. AND IT IS CONFUSING AND I, I LOOKED AT THAT WHEN EARLIER THIS MORNING I SAID YEP. THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S THE CARRYOVER. THOSE NOTES ARE CARRYOVER FROM PREVIOUS VERSION. OKAY. THE OTHER ONE THAT KIND OF STUCK OUT TO ME WAS THE FURTHER DOWN IN THE UNDER CONSULTANTS, THERE'S A SUPPLEMENTAL SERVICES WHERE THERE'S RENDERING SERVICES. THE ORIGINAL COST WAS 40 WITH THE AMENDMENT ONE, IT'D BE 60. AND THE NOTES SAY REDUCED COST AND LIMIT OF SIX RENDERS. AND I AM AN AGGIE, BUT 60 SEEMS LIKE THAT'S NOT A REDUCTION IN COST, BUT. LET ME FIND THAT PAGE HERE. IF I'M WILLING TO ACCEPT IF IF WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THE NOTES AT SOME POINT AND THIS WAS JUST A, WE ABSOLUTELY CAN BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME, SOME OTHER THINGS IN THERE THAT THE DIAGRAMS THEMSELVES WITHIN THAT ARE INCORRECT TOO. SO I NOTICED THOSE. AND SO YES, WE WILL ULTIMATELY THE PRICE IS CORRECT. AND BUT WE CAN CHANGE THOSE NOTES SO THAT THEY ARE ACCURATE BECAUSE THESE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THEM THAT THAT WERE NOT. SO IS IT WAS UNFORTUNATELY SOMETHING THAT I MISSED THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT VERSIONS THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH OF THIS AND OUR NEGOTIATION WITH PARK HILL. OKAY, THAT WAS IT. I WAS JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY SINCE YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE DO READ THESE VERY AND WELL, IF WE'RE PRESENTING THESE AS PART OF THE PACKET FOR THE PUBLIC, I FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE PROJECT IS RESPONSIBLY RUN. THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES. THERE'S EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING IS RIGHT ABOUT THIS. AND THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A CLERICAL ERROR WITH CARRY OVER SOME FOR SOME MINUTES. I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ALL THE VERSIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH, AND IT'S JUST A GREAT CALL. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. [00:20:03] THANKS, DON. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR DON COUNCILMAN? WE'RE ACTUALLY STILL WORKING ON GETTING DON'S TECHNOLOGY OUT TO THE AIRPORT. AND SO HE'S WORKING, I THINK, MOSTLY OFF HIS PHONE, SO NOT MAKE AN EXCUSE. JUST. I EVEN BROUGHT OLD SCHOOL STUFF HERE BECAUSE I COULDN'T PRINT ANYTHING. WELL, IT WAS JUST TO SHOW THAT WHAT WHAT TASK? ORDER ONE. WHAT? THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TASK ORDER ONE AND OUR CURRENT CONCEPT IS. AND IT'S JUST THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE SCOPE OF WORK. SO, COUNCILMAN REAGAN, YOU HAD TWO QUESTIONS. YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. WELL, AND IT REALLY REGARDS TO THE SCOPE OF WORK HERE. SO IF KIND OF WHAT YOU SAID IS WE'RE EXPANDING, WE'RE COMING HERE FOR THIS ADDITIONAL 1.4 MILLION FOR THE DESIGN, BECAUSE THERE WERE CERTAIN ASPECTS THAT WE DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR OR DESIGN AT THE BEGINNING DUE TO THIS. AND WE'RE EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF WORK. THE BOND THIS IS INCLUDING THE BOND. 20 MILLION PLUS WHAT, 50 MILLION, HOPEFULLY WORTH OF FAA FUNDS. IF WE'RE EXPANDING THE SCOPE, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE THE COST? ARE WE STILL GOING TO TO BE ABLE TO STAY AT BUDGET OF WHAT WAS PROJECTED, OR IS THAT ALSO INCREASING BY CLOSE TO DOUBLE? NO, SIR. THE THE BUDGET THE PROJECTED THE $70 MILLION BUDGET IS BASED ON WHAT THIS TASK ORDER AMENDMENT IS DESIGNING FOR. SO WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR ALL OF THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS OF THAT CONCEPT THAT THAT YOU HAVE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE THE BOND ELECTION PROCESS AND IT'S THE, THE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE HERE. I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. SO WE'VE WE'RE WE'RE JUST NOW THE BOND IS ALREADY PASSED RIGHT. FOR THE 20 MILLION AND THAT THAT PROPOSAL NOW WE'RE, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE 1.4 MILLION TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF WORK SO THAT THEY CAN DESIGN. BUT BUT IT WASN'T DESIGNED AT THE BEGINNING. SO HOW DID WE KNOW WHAT TO BUDGET FOR IN THAT BOND PROPOSAL? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. SO THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, THE CHARETTE THAT WE'VE HAD, THE PLANNING MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE ARCHITECTS AND WITH WITH STAFF AND OTHER CONSULTANTS, WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE NEW CONCEPT THAT THIS WHICH THE ORIGINAL TASK ORDER DID NOT CONTEMPLATE, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE COST. AND THEN PARK HILL ESTIMATED OR CAME UP WITH THE AMENDMENT TO ACTUALLY DO THE FULL DESIGN TO INCLUDE THE NEW CONCEPT. THERE IS DESIGN IN THE ORIGINAL TASK ORDER, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH. DESIGN WORK IN THE ORIGINAL TASK ORDER IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO COVER THE FULL CONCEPT. SO THAT IS WHY WE WERE ASKING FOR THIS AMENDMENT TODAY TO COVER THE FULL CONCEPT, PROVIDE THE FULL DESIGN FOR WHAT? WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN PREVIOUSLY. OKAY, SO STILL EXPECTED TO BE AT AROUND THE 70 MILLION MARK. YES, SIR. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, WITH THIS CHANGE, ARE WE EXPECTING A CHANGE IN THE LOOK OF THE AIRPORT? SO WE HAD THOSE MOCK UPS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THE VOTERS HAVE VOTED ON. AND SOME TIME TO, YOU KNOW, WE DO THE GRAND OPENING. IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THAT OR IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY BECAUSE OF THIS AMENDMENT, BECAUSE OF COST CUTTING, ETC., IT'S GOING TO LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. AND I YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND, I GO TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE REC CENTERS. AND I HAD AN ISSUE WITH THOSE. AND I UNDERSTAND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL DIDN'T. BUT THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN IS, IS WE WE PRESENT THIS PROPOSAL TO THE TO THE VOTERS. THEY APPROVE THE 20 MILLION. AND THEN THE END RESULT IS NOT WHAT THE VOTERS VOTED ON. SO IS THIS KEEPING WITH THAT ORIGINAL DESIGN THAT THE VOTERS VOTED ON? YES, SIR. THIS THIS TASK ORDER AMENDMENT IS ACTUALLY CATCHING UP TO THE DESIGN OF THAT CONCEPT. THE RENDERINGS THAT YOU HAVE SEEN THAT I PRESENTED AT THE COUNCIL RETREAT IN JANUARY, THIS DESIGN TASK ORDER AMENDMENT IS CATCHING UP TO THAT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO HERE. SO WE'RE STILL GOING WITH THE LOOK AND THE COST. ABSOLUTELY. PERFECT. OKAY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I JUST WANT TO SAY AND THIS ISN'T A LIKE A DIG IN ANY BY ANY MEANS. I DO WANT TO SAY THE REC CENTER TO YOUR POINT. I DON'T THINK VOTERS WERE ONLY VOTING FOR THE VISUAL CONCEPT OF THE REC. I THINK THEY WERE VOTING FOR THE FUNCTIONALITY AND WHAT IT BROUGHT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO JUST SAY THE VISUAL. I'LL CONCEDE THAT. I'M JUST SAYING FROM A VISUAL PERSPECTIVE IN THIS CONVERSATION, IF WE'RE PRESENTING ONE LOOK AND THEN IT'S 100% NOT THAT LOOK AT ALL. IT'S A BIT OF A, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT BEST AIRPORT IN THE WORLD. AND THEN IT'S SOMETHING ELSE. YOU GO, OH, LET'S, LET'S BE A LITTLE BIT MORE REALISTIC. [00:25:01] AND SO THAT WAS MY ISSUE WITH THE REC CENTERS, GLASS FACADES, YOU KNOW, THREE STORIES TALL AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND WE GO, WELL, WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE CAN GO DOWN THAT. AND SO I DON'T RECALL US SAYING THAT, BUT I HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING. FROM AN ESTHETIC PERSPECTIVE, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE VOTERS WHAT REALISTICALLY WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH AND NOT SET US UP FOR. HEY, YOU PROMISED THIS AND YOU ONLY DELIVERED THIS. NO, NO, NO. AND I AND I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH THE AIRPORT. AND SO WITH THIS, MY CONCERN IS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE WE WERE STAYING TRUE TO THE VISION OF WHAT WE PRESENTED. THE VOTERS. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE. SO I'M VERY ENCOURAGED. YEAH. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF DON? JUST A QUICK QUESTION. Y'ALL ARE GOING TO UPDATE THIS DOCUMENTATION. HOW WILL THAT BE AVAILABLE FOR CITIZENS THAT ARE CURIOUS ABOUT SEEING THIS? BECAUSE THEY'RE FOLLOWING ALONG AND WANT TO SEE THE UPDATED NUMBERS? WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT THAT. IF THAT'S A PREFERENCE, THEN WE CAN PUT THAT THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE WHAT THE CITY MANAGER WILL SIGN EVENTUALLY. AND THEN WE CAN PUT THAT ON OUR, OUR WEBSITE ON THE THE ABI NEXT GREAT SITE. THANK YOU DON. AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST? ITEM NINE. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. TAMMY FOGEL, RESIDENT OF ABILENE. THANK YOU, SHANE PRICE, FOR MAKING SURE CITIZENS HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW ALONG TO AND AND SOMETIMES WHEN YOU PRINT OUT THE DOCUMENTS, IT ACTUALLY IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE NAKED EYE TO READ IT. AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE IT ON A COMPUTER WHERE YOU CAN EXPAND IT. I WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO ADDRESS THIS IN MY PUBLIC COMMENTS BECAUSE, I THINK CITIZENS DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE AND MADE IN THE PACKET, AND WE CAN TRACK WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WITH A GOOD AMOUNT OF ACCURACY, I THINK. AND SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS JUST ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK DON GREEN FOR HIS WORK ON HIS MEMO, BECAUSE I READ ALL THE MEMOS AND I TRY AND TRACK AND SEE WHERE THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM. AND SOMETIMES THE FUNDING IS MISSING, BUT IT'S ON THE PRESENTATION, AND SOMETIMES IT TELLS US IF WE'RE BUDGETED AND AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING. AND SO I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THIS BECAUSE WHEN I SAW $2.3 MILLION OR HOWEVER MUCH THAT WAS $2.5 MILLION, I WAS LIKE, WOW, WHERE'S THAT MONEY COMING FROM? IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE IN THE BOND? WHAT'S GOING ON? AND BECAUSE HE INCLUDED WHEN THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION FOR THIS DESIGN CONCEPT, I WAS ABLE TO TRACK BACK TO THE RESOLUTION, FIND THE INFORMATION, SEE EXACTLY THE CONVERSATION AND THEN AND RECOGNIZE WHAT'S GOING ON. SO I JUST I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IF EVERY MEMO COULD BE LIKE HIS, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE AS MANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT GIVES A LOT OF BACK HISTORY. AND I THINK AS WE COME IN AND OUT OF THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE PRESENT FOR ALL OF IT. IT HELPS FOR US TO KNOW WHEN THESE CONVERSATIONS HAPPEN, BECAUSE ANYONE LISTENING TODAY TO THIS CONVERSATION PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, AND DON'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT AS AIRPORT MEETINGS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. SO THIS IS NOT A NEW A NEW PROCESS. AND IT WAS ENCOURAGING TO ME TO SEE THAT AGAIN. EVEN WITH THIS AMENDMENT, THE CITY IS ONLY GOING TO HAVE TO COVER 5% OF THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S A DETAIL THAT MATTERS, BECAUSE 95% OF THAT IS GOING TO BE COVERED BY A GRANT. AND SO LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT MATTER. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT SO THAT WE DON'T FREAK OUT BECAUSE WE LIKE TO FREAK OUT OVER BIG NUMBERS. AND WHEN WE REALIZE IT'S NOT AS BIG A NUMBER AS IT INITIALLY WAS AND JUST EVEN LIKE THE NOTES, HAVING THAT CLARIFIED IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THIS IS WHAT WE GO ON AND WE DON'T WANT TO COME UP AND MIS PRESENT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ACCURATELY TALKING ABOUT. AND THE LAST THING I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IS IT'S IT'S DISTURBING TO ME HOW OUR LEGAL SYSTEM ALLOWS FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO INVEST $9,000 IN PROMOTING THIS BOND. I DIDN'T EVEN SPEND THAT MUCH ON MY CAMPAIGN. AND I DON'T EVEN THINK TRAVIS SPENT OR MAYBE SPENT ABOUT THAT ON HIS CAMPAIGN. AND THIS, THIS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE CAN LOAN MONEY TO THE FRIENDS OF THE AIRPORT TO PROMOTE SOMETHING THAT NO ONE'S REALLY SHOWING UP TO, BECAUSE 5300 PEOPLE SHOWING UP TO VOTE IS PENANCE IN OUR CITY. IT'S A LOW TURNOUT. IT'S BEEN CONSISTENT WITH CONSISTENT WHEN HE WAS ELECTED LAST TIME IN NOVEMBER WHEN WE PASSED THE SANCTUARY CITY FOR THE UNBORN, I THINK WE HAD LIKE 16,000 SHOW UP. SO IT WAS MENTIONED THAT WE NEED ALL VOTERS TO VOTE ON THIS. WE'VE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING SURE VOTERS IN THIS CITY, NOT JUST BECAUSE EVERY CITY HAS THIS ISSUE, BUT VOTERS IN THE CITY KNOW WHEN THEY CAN BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION, AND THEY'RE NOT QUESTIONING WHEN ELECTIONS HAPPEN IN OUR CITY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PART IN IMPROVING THAT. STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NINE? I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION AND A SECOND. MOVE FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN YATES. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN PRICE. FURTHER DISCUSSION. WE'RE READY TO VOTE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM YATES. YES. I'M SORRY, MAYOR PRO TEM YATES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. REAGAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER PRICE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BEARD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MCALLISTER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CRAVER. YES. AND MAYOR. HURT. YES. MOTION CARRIES. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM TEN, [10. Resolution: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Awarding Bid #CB-2535 Great Lakes Dr. & Kinsolving Dr. Reconstruction Project to Bontke Brothers Construction Co., Inc. (Max Johnson)] AND I'LL ASK MAX JOHNSON, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, TO PRESENT THIS ITEM. GOOD MORNING, MR. [00:30:02] MAYOR. COUNCIL. UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS MORNING IS A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. EXCUSE ME. NOT AT GREAT LAKES. DRIVE OUT BY GREAT LAKES CHEESE. THIS IS A DCO FUNDED PROJECT. THIS IS THE LOCATION AND THE TWO STREETS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. THE PROJECT INCLUDES BASICALLY RECONSTRUCTING THE CURRENT ASPHALT ROAD INTO A CONCRETE SECTION. DUE TO THE TRAFFIC AND THE HEAVY TRUCKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE UTILIZING THIS AREA. ADVERTISE 23RD AND THE 30TH OF MARCH. THREE BIDS WERE RECEIVED, AND WHEN THE BIDS WERE OPEN ON THE 8TH OF APRIL STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE AWARD THIS PROJECT TO BOND BROTHERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1.7 MILLION. THIS WAS A PROJECT. IT WAS NOT THE LOWEST BID THAT WAS RECEIVED. WE DID A BEST VALUE THROUGH STAFF. AND THE RECOMMENDATION CAME UP WITH BUNKIE AT 1.7 MILLION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? MAX, CAN YOU GO BACK? ONE SLIDE. YES, SIR. HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS. PROJECT ALLOWANCE 200,000. YES. THAT'S THE CONTINGENCY ON THE PROJECT. OKAY. OKAY, OKAY. FOR ANY UNSEEN CONDITIONS OR ANYTHING THAT MAY COME UP. YES, SIR. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. THIS ONE. SO THIS IS ITEM I'M SORRY, ITEM TEN, AND I BELIEVE ON ITEM SEVEN, WE JUST APPROVED CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. I THINK IT WAS AROUND 1.9 FOR EPIC CONSTRUCTION. EPIC CONSTRUCTION HAD THE LOWEST BID ON THIS ONE BY, I BELIEVE, $100,000 LOWER. WHY IS THAT CONSTRUCTION COMPANY GOOD ENOUGH FOR THAT ONE AT THE 1.9 MILLION? AND I FORGET WHAT STREET THAT ONE WAS FOR. BUT THIS ONE IS 100,000 MORE. BUT WE'RE GOING WITH THE HIGHER BIDDER. YES, SIR. THE CONCERN CAME UP WITH WITH AWARDING BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS TO TO EPIC THE COMPANY. AND THE CONCERN WAS WITH THE QUALITY AND THE TIMELINESS THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO BOTH THOSE PROJECTS. SO WE DID THE, THE BEST VALUE AND DETERMINED TO GIVE ONE PROJECT TO EPIC AT THE LOW BID AND THE OTHER PROJECT TO THE BEST VALUE BID TO DO. WE ONLY TYPICALLY GIVE ONE CONTRACT PER COMPANY. NOT NOT IT IT JUST WE JUST LOOK AT THE OVERALL WORKLOAD AND THE TIMELINESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPLETING THE PROJECT, SIR. OKAY. SO DO WE DO THIS? CRITERIA. BEST VALUE DETERMINATION CRITERIA FOR FOR THE OTHER TWO BIDS. THE EPIC AND THE. I THINK IT WAS J J STRAIN. YES. WHATEVER. YES. ALL THREE. AND THAT'S THAT'S IN THE PACKET AS THE OKAY THE THE CRITERIA WAS IN THE PACKET I THINK FOR NUMBER TEN IT WASN'T IN FOR 7 OR 8 FOR THE I COULDN'T SEE WHAT THOSE COMPANIES SCORED ON THOSE. WOULD THEY HAVE SCORED THE SAME IN, DID EPIC SCORE THE SAME WAY IN SEVEN THAT IT DID IN TEN? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, SIR. I CAN GET THAT TO YOU THOUGH. I JUST I GUESS MY MY CONCERN IS OR MY POINT HERE IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE BEST VALUE FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND THEIR DOLLARS, AND THAT OFTEN COMES BY COMPETITION. AND SO AND IT MAY HAVE JUST BEEN KIND OF A FREAK DAY WHERE WE HAVE THREE PROJECTS ALL ABOUT 1.9 MILLION TO 3 DIFFERENT COMPANIES. AND IT HAS THE APPEARANCE OF, WELL, YOU EACH GET ONE RIGHT, WHETHER YOU HAVE THE LOWEST BIDDER OR NOT. WE'RE GOING TO NOT ROCK THE BOAT. YOU GET ONE, YOU GET ONE, YOU GET ONE. THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY THE BEST. I WON'T SAY USE, BUT IT DOESN'T FOSTER COMPETITION. AND SO THAT THAT WAS MY CONCERN, EVEN JUST FROM AN APPEARANCE SAKE AND JUST WITH THIS CRITERIA ONLY BE INCLUDED ON NUMBER TEN. THAT WAS A CONCERN. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE AS A CITY, WE'RE NOT GOING, HEY, LET'S NOT ROCK THE BOAT. THAT THIS WAS, IN FACT, THE BEST BID, EVEN THOUGH IT'S 100,000 MORE. AND THAT'S THAT'S MORE THAN WE'RE PAYING FOR THE DESIGN ON THE AIRPORT. SO THAT'S A HUGE AMOUNT. THAT WAS MY CONCERN. YEAH. AND ONE REASON IT WASN'T INCLUDED ON SEVEN WAS THE. SO IT WAS THE BEST VALUE AND THE LOWEST BID FOR EPIC. THAT'S WHY WE ARE RECOMMENDING EPIC FOR THAT PROJECT, WHERE THIS ONE CAME UP WITH THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD WITH BUNKIE GETTING THE BEST VALUE, NOT THE LOWEST PRICE. AND REALLY JUST JUST AS CURIOSITY FOR FUTURE REFERENCE FOR ME. SO IF IF BANK GETS THE LOWEST BID ON TWO IN THE FUTURE, IS THAT COMPANY BIG ENOUGH TO HANDLE TWO AT A TIME, WE'LL HAVE TO EVALUATE THAT WHEN IT COMES UP, SIR. OKAY. AND THE AND THE TIMELINE AND THE TIMELINES FOR THE PROJECT WILL BE EVALUATED AT THAT TIME. AND JUST FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE OR FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, DOES STAFF TALK TO EPIC AND BON QUANDO EPIC? [00:35:04] DO YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE THIS SECOND PROJECT OR IS THAT PURELY MADE ON OUR SIDE? IT'S PURELY ON OUR SIDE. SO BASED ON REPUTATION, BASED ON QUALITY, BASED ON MANY FACTORS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST. YEAH, INCLUDING HISTORY OF OF CURRENT PROJECTS OR PAST PROJECTS AND HOW THEY PERFORMED ON THAT. OKAY. AND EPIC COULD THOUGH BE SAYING, HEY, WE JUST FINISHED A PROJECT. WE'VE GOT A WHOLE CREW THAT'S SITTING THERE IDLE. THIS IS PERFECT FOR US. IF WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN THIS, THAT'S THAT'S POSSIBLE. WE DIDN'T TALK TO THIS CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU HANDLE THIS? THIS IS JUST BASED ON, ON ON OUR ASSESSMENT ON OUR SIDE. CORRECT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD WE SHOULD MAYBE IN THE FUTURE KIND OF LOOK AT AND GO REACH OUT TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU HANDLE A SECOND PROJECT? THEY SAY YES. THEN WE EVALUATE AND GO, WE'LL SHOW US THAT YOU CAN. I JUST DON'T LIKE US UNILATERALLY SAYING WE DO HAVE SIDEBAR. WE DO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT OTHER PROJECTS THEY HAVE PRIOR TO MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT WE PUT INTO THE OUR RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. THIS IS NOT REALLY A CRITIQUE ON YOU. IT'S. OR THE STAFF AND THE ASSESSMENT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GOOD JOB. THIS IS MORE FROM A THE INFORMATION THAT WE GET MAKING SURE THAT IT'S. OH, I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S THAT WAY. AND, AND $100,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO ADD TO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BEST VALUE. BEST VALUE DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN THE CHEAPEST. IT'S THE COMPLETED PROJECT. THAT'S THE VALUE FOR OUR CITIZENS. AND AND THE STAFF DOES LOOK AT PAST PROJECTS AND SCORING THESE PROJECTS. AND SO ULTIMATELY WE NEED THE BEST PROJECT FINISHED FOR THE FOR THE MONEY. SO SOMETIMES VALUE IS NOT JUST THE COST. SO I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING ON THAT. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES SIR I HAVE SOMETHING. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY ADHERENCE TO TIMELINES? LIKE I KNOW THERE'S SPECIFIC TIMELINES YOU'D LIKE IT TO BE ACCOMPLISHED IN. ABSOLUTELY, SIR. SO EVERY PROJECT THAT WE HAVE, WE GIVE AND THIS IS IN DISCUSSIONS WITH WITH THE CONTRACTOR AS WELL. THERE IS A SCHEDULE, A TIME, A TIME FRAME. NOW, THAT SCHEDULE CAN BE BUMPED. IF THERE'S WEATHER OR SOME THINGS THAT ARE OUT OF THE CONTRACTOR'S CONTROL, WE CAN ADD DAYS ON TO THE CONTRACT. BUT IF THE CONTRACTOR DOES GO OVER, WE CAN GO INTO LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. THAT CONTRACTOR IS PAYING US BACK FOR NOT GETTING IT DONE ON TIME. AND I APPRECIATE AND I KNOW THAT I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS AND IT WAS SOMETHING WE SIMILARLY ASKED DON. GOD BLESS YOU FOR WORKING OFF OF A PHONE. I'D PROBABLY BE CROSS SIDED BY NOW, BUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO COMMUNICATE AS BEST YOU CAN TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, HOW THEY'LL BE IMPACTED AS THIS PROJECT, AS IT AS IT GOES ALONG. WE DO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THE MEDIA TO UPDATE ON PROJECTS WHICH WE ARE TRYING MORE AND MORE TO GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO SHOW WHAT THE DOLLARS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING PUT IN FOR THE STREET MAINTENANCE FUND IS ACTUALLY GOING IN THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ARE BEING MADE. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS, SIR. AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST? ITEM TEN. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION IN A SECOND. SO MOVED. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BEARD. SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN PRICE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'RE READY TO VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER. REARDON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MCALLISTER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CRAVER. YES. MAYOR PRO TEM. YATES. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. REAGAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. PRICE. YES. AND MAYOR. HERBERT. YES. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION CARRIES. IT IS NOW 9:09 A.M., AND WE RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN [EXECUTIVE SESSION] MEETINGS ACT, SECTION 551071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY. SECTION 551.072 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT REAL PROPERTY. SECTION 551.073 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT GIFTS AND DONATIONS. SECTION 551.07 FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS. SECTION 551.076 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT SECURITY DEVICES. SECTION 551.087 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT BUSINESS PROSPECTS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IT IS NOW 9:41 A.M. AND WE RECONVENE FROM OPEN SESSION. [RECONVENE] NO VOTES OR ACTIONS WERE TAKEN DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM 12, WHICH IS THE APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT TO [12. Resolution: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Appointing Members to Various Boards and Commissions per the City Charter (Shawna Atkinson)] VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THAT WILL BE THE PARKS AND REC BOARD. JACK CURD REAPPOINTMENT. CAN ANYBODY VOUCH FOR HIM? AND RALSTON COLEMAN, A NEW APPOINTEE. AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? [00:40:02] IF NOT, I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO MOVED. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REAGAN. SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MCALLISTER. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? READY TO VOTE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. REAGAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER PRICE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BEARD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MCALLISTER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CRAVER. YES. AND MAYOR PRO TEM. YATES. YES. MAYOR. HURT. YES. MOTION CARRIES. MOTION CARRIES. IT IS NOW 9:42 A.M. IN THIS MEETING OF THE ABILENE CITY COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.