ALL RIGHT. IT IS 131. WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. [00:00:05] PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY FOR THE APPROVAL OF PLATS. HOWEVER, IT ACTS ONLY AS A RECOMMENDING BOARD TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE MATTERS OF ZONING. THE DECISIONS OF THE COMMISSION MAY BE APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE CITY SECRETARY, NO LATER THAN TEN DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS MEETING. ALL APPEALS MUST BE IN WRITING. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO SPEAK UNDER ANY ITEM UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AFTER RECEIVING RECOGNITION BY THE CHAIR. THOSE WISHING TO BE HEARD SHALL APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE THEIR NAME AND THEIR PURPOSE FOR APPEARING. EACH SPEAKER IS REQUESTED TO LIMIT THEIR PRESENTATION TO NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES, AND ADDITIONAL TIME MAY BE GRANTED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE PRAYER. MR. HALBERT, WOULD YOU LISTEN? FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, FOR ITS OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SERVE THIS CITY AND ITS CITIZENS. WE JUST PRAY FOR WISDOM AS WE MAKE DECISIONS TODAY ON THIS AGENDA. PRAY FOR EVERYONE WHO MAKES PRESENTATIONS TODAY THAT WE WOULD HEAR THEM CLEARLY AND FAIRLY, AND THAT ALL DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED. WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. REMEMBER, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I ALSO WANT TO JUST SAY A NOTE OF APPRECIATION TO OUR CITY STAFF WITH THE COMPUTER ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING OVER THE LAST MONTH, EVERYBODY FROM OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO OUR MAINTENANCE WASTE AND RETRIEVAL, PARKS AND REC, EVERYTHING, BUT ESPECIALLY THE PLANNING GROUP. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I KNOW IT HASN'T BEEN EASY, BUT WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL WORKING WITH US AND TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING MOVING FORWARD. SO THANK YOU, TIM, AND TO YOUR TEAM. [MINUTES] ALL RIGHT. THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM TODAY IS OUR MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS WAY BACK ON APRIL 1ST BECAUSE WE HAD TO MISS THE LAST ONE. COMMISSIONERS, HAVE YOU ALL HAD THE CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? OKAY. ANY COMMENT? YEAH, THERE'S A COUPLE THAT. I'M VOTING ON IT THAT I WAS NOT HERE FOR THAT MEETING, SO THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE CHANGED. OKAY. THAT'S PROBABLY ON THAT COMPUTER ISSUE, BUT. SO WE WILL REMOVE WE WILL REMOVE MR. SITES FROM ANY THAT ARE LISTED AS VOTING. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON LAST MEETING'S APRIL 1ST MINUTES? WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS MATTER. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ADDRESS THE MINUTES? SEE, NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES WITH THE EDITS NOTED BY ZACH SAY AYE. AYE AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER TWO, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2020 509. [ZONING] RECEIVE. REPORT. HOLD A DISCUSSION. PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE ACTION ON THE REQUEST OF AN OWNER TO APPLY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A FREIGHT CONTAINER WITHIN GENERAL RETAIL ZONING LOCATED AT 6410 BUFFALO GAP ROAD. CLARISSA. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CLARISSA IVY. I'M A PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE. BEFORE YOU HAVE CASE CUP 2020 509 REQUESTED BY THE BLUE BARREL BAR AND GRILL. A REPRESENTATIVE IS RAMON MORENO AND JUNIOR. THEIR REQUEST IS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A FREIGHT CONTAINER AT 6410 A BUFFALO GAP ROAD. THIS IS NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF ANTHONY ROAD AND BUFFALO GAP ROAD. IT'S CURRENTLY SOLD GENERAL RETAIL, AND ONLY HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING OF THE USES THAT THE ZONING ALLOWS. SEEING THAT FREIGHT CONTAINERS ARE ONLY ALLOWED WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THERE IS CURRENTLY THE FREIGHT CONTAINERS SITTING ON THE LOT, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS VISIBLE BETWEEN TWO OF THE BUILDINGS THAT EXIST ON SITE. THESE ARE A VIEW OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. IT'S MOSTLY VACANT LAND AND SOME LOTS THAT ARE YET TO BE DEVELOPED. THE APPLICATION IS TO KEEP THE CONTENTS WHERE IT CURRENTLY CURRENTLY SITS AND VIEW BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. LIKE IN THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT. WE SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY IN FAVOR AND OPPOSITION WITHIN THE TIME ALLOWED FOR THIS PRESENTATION. THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING. GENERALLY ACCEPTED PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE LDC. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE FREIGHT CONTAINER BEING RELOCATED COMPLETELY BEHIND THE BUILDING AND OUT OF VIEW FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND THE CONTAINER BEING A SOLID COLOR TO MATCH THE DOMINANT COLOR OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE. FREIGHT CONTAINERS. THE FREIGHT CONTAINER CAN ALSO NOT BE STACKED OR HAVE ANY ITEMS STACKED ON TOP. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. A QUICK QUESTION ON THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, [00:05:01] TYPICALLY ON THESE OR YOU CONSIDERING THAT EXISTING VEGETATION ADEQUATE SCREENING. LET ME GO BACK TO THE PHOTOGRAPHS. THE VEGETATION AROUND THEM IS PRETTY HIGH. THE VEGETATION AROUND IT IS PRETTY HIGH. THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF MOSQUITOES AND YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL FROM THAT PICTURE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM PICTURE ON YOUR SCREEN, IT KIND OF JUST DROPS OFF. SO THERE'S NOT REALLY ANOTHER PLACE TO PUT THE FREIGHT CONTAINER OTHER THAN THE PARKING LOT. TYPICALLY FOR FREIGHT CONTAINERS, WE ASK FOR THEM TO BE SCREENED EITHER BY VEGETATION OR BY FENCE. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. PUTTING A FENCE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT MIGHT CAUSE SOME VISIBILITY ISSUES WHEN MANEUVERING BACK THERE. BUT YES THE VEGETATION IN THE BACK KIND OF ACTS AS A BUFFER FROM THAT AREA IN US REQUESTING IT TO BE COMPLETELY BEHIND THE BUILDING. IT WOULD KIND OF CREATE A BARRIER. FROM THE FRONT, THERE'S FROM THE PUBLIC CONTAINER ON WHEELS THERE THAT YOU SEE IN THAT PICTURE TO THE LEFT. THAT'S A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN. DOES THAT QUALIFY UNDER THE SAME ORDINANCE? OH, NO, SIR, THAT IS A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE. OKAY. THAT ONE IS THEY HAVE A PERMIT ISSUE TO BE REMOVED. WITH. I THINK THEY'RE DOWN TO, LIKE, NINE MONTHS. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING IN YOUR CONDITIONS LIMITING MORE? I KNOW YOU CAN'T STACK ANY MORE ON TOP, BUT WOULD THIS PERMIT ALLOW ADDITIONAL FREIGHT CONTAINERS IN THE AREA, OR IS IT LIMITED JUST TO THIS ONE? JUST TO THE FOR THIS ADDRESS? THERE ARE SEVERAL ADDRESSES. SO I GUESS IF THE NEIGHBORING SUITES WANTED TO APPLY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, IT WOULD BE BEFORE YOU AGAIN. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CLARISSA? THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO? SEEING NO ONE ON CUP 2020 509, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS OR MOTIONS? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, WITH THE CONDITIONS STATED WITH THE CONDITIONS OF STATED CONDITION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MINCH. SECOND BY SHANTI WITH THE CONDITIONS. MR. BARNETT? YES. MR. HOUSE? YES. MISS COKER. YEAH. MR. HALLIBURTON. YES. MISS LEWIS? YES. MR. SEITZ? YES. AND MR. BENHAM? YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES. ITEM AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER THREE. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2025, DASH TEN, RECEIVE, REPORT, HOLD, DISCUSSION, PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION. REQUEST OF THE OWNER TO APPLY A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A SOCIAL ORGANIZATION WITHIN MEDIUM DENSITY ZONING. LOCATED AT 1726 SWENSON STREET. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KARA VALOIS. I'M A PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE. TODAY I'M REPRESENTING CASE CUP 2025 TEN, THE AGENTS OF SWINTON HOUSE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. THEY'RE REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A SOCIAL SOCIAL ORGANIZATION WITHIN MEDIUM DENSITY. LOCATED AT 1726 SWINTON STREET. HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL LOCATION MAP. THE ZONING MAP. THE USE IS PERMITTED WITHIN MEDIUM DENSITY ZONING. SOME PROPERTY VIEWS. HERE ARE SOME SOME SURROUNDING PROPERTY VIEWS. THIS IS THE PLAN OF OPERATION. JUST STATING THAT THE SWINTON HOUSE WILL BE THE FUNDRAISING FOR VENUES FOR WEDDINGS, SHOWERS, OTHER PRIVATE EVENTS THAT THEY WILL HAVE A THEY HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND WILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY IN GOODWILL. THE SWINTON HOUSE WILL UTILIZE THE EXISTING PROPERTY, GARDENS AND LAWNS WITHIN THE PARKING AREA OF LOT 726. THE HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE FROM 9 A.M. TO 10 P.M., AND THE PROPERTY WILL HOST SEVERAL MAJOR FUNDRAISING EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE SENT NOTIFICATIONS OUT IN A 200 FOOT BUFFER, ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION. THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING, AND GENERALLY ACCEPTED PLANNING PRINCIPLES. IN THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE LDC STACK. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE PROPOSED PLAN OF OPERATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR CARA. ALL RIGHT. [00:10:02] THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL OPEN UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE FOR PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS MATTER? I'M TAMMY CONWAY. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY FOR THIS YEAR. AND I JUST WANTED TO JUST PLEAD OUR CASE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW THIS WINSTON HOUSE KEEPS ITS KEEPS ITS LIGHTS ON, IS HOSTING THESE EVENTS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS. WE'VE ACTUALLY UPPED OUR COMMUNITY FREE EVENTS IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND WE'RE TRYING TO BRING AWARENESS TO THIS WONDERFUL HOUSE AND HOPE THAT THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS APPROVED SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE ELSE ON THIS MATTER? SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. ANY COMMENTS, DISCUSSION OR MOTIONS? I THINK IT'S GREAT. I DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO THE PROPOSED PLAN OF OPERATION. I SECOND THAT. OKAY. THE FIRST CRYSTAL. THE SECOND. IS THIS A IS THIS TECHNICALLY A CONDITION TO THE PLAN OF OPERATION, OR IS THE PLAN OF OPERATION JUST PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS? IT IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDED TO. SO WE WILL DO IT SUBJECT TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THE ON THE OPERATION PLAN. MR. BARNETT? YES, MISTER HOUSE. MISS COCKER? YES. MISTER HALLIBURTON. YES. MISS LEWIS? YES. MR. SYKES? YES. AND MR. BENHAM? YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2025 DASH 11. RECEIVE A REPORT. HOLD DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION ON REQUEST FROM THE OWNER. TO APPLY. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR AMBULANCE SERVICES WITHIN GENERAL RETAIL ZONING. LOCATED AT 3301 SOUTH 14TH STREET, SUITE 34. A CLARISSA. HELLO AGAIN. MY NAME IS CLARISSA AND WE'RE LOOKING AT KCP 20 2511. THE AGENT FOR THIS CASE IS KINETIC AND DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT. THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW AMBULANCE SERVICES WITHIN GENERAL RETAIL ZONING. THE LOCATION IS 3301 SOUTH 14TH STREET, SUITE 34. A THIS SUITE IS LOCATED WITH THEN A SHOPPING CENTER. THIS IS THE ZONING INDICATING THE PARCEL BEING ZONED GENERAL RETAIL. THE GENERAL RETAIL ZONING USE IS ALLOWED. HIGHLIGHTING THE AMBULANCE SERVICES WOULD REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE FROM THE PROPERTY REVIEWS ON THE SECOND ITEM SECOND PICTURE, IT SHOWS HOW THE SWEET IT'S GOING TO LOCATE IT TOWARDS THE BACK OF THIS MALL. THESE ARE VIEWS OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THEIR PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN WILL SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS WITHIN A 200 FOOT BUFFER OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY IN FAVOR OR IN THE POST OPPOSITION. THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING USES, AND ZONING GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES. AND THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE LDC STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE PROPOSED PLAN OF OPERATION? I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CLARISSA? THANK YOU. WE'LL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. ANYBODY I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS. SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS OR MOTIONS? ER, NO. I THINK IT'S LIKE A BASE HOME FOR THE AMBULANCE SERVICES. SO, LIKE OFFICES FOR THEM TO HAVE. AND WHEN THEY GET CALLED OUT, THEIR AMBULANCES ARE BEHIND FOR THEM TO RESPOND TO THINGS IN THAT AREA. I WAS INITIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE THAT OPERATING AN AMBULANCE NEAR THAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT IN THEIR PLAN OF OPERATION, WHICH THIS IS SUBJECT TO THEY DO DEPLOY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO THEY BASICALLY JUST GO THERE TO LEAVE THAT PLACE, AND THEN THEY'RE STAGED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO CAN WE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? YES, WE WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD. YES. THANK YOU. HI. MY NAME IS JAMES BRYANT. I'M THE EDUCATION MANAGER AT METRO CARE. WE CAME, IN CASE YOU DID HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT THE USE WOULD BE FOR IT. THIS IS GOING TO BE A SUBSTATION. HOUSING ONLY OUR EMPLOYEES. WE DO HAVE IN POLICY ALREADY WHEN AND WHERE THEY CAN START THEIR SIRENS AND THEIR LIGHTS TO DECREASE THE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTIAL AREA BEHIND THEM UNTIL THEY GET TO THE MAIN [00:15:04] ACCESS ROADS AND SOME OF THOSE. THIS IS BASICALLY GOING TO BE JUST A CREWS QUARTERS. WE PICKED THIS LOCATION BECAUSE IT IS CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR FASTER RESPONSE TIMES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. ON OUR AMBULANCE SERVICE. SO YOU'LL NEED ANY GARAGE OR ANY OR LIKE A IN THE BACK. THEY ARE LOOKING AT PUTTING A LEAN TO OFF THE BACK SIDE AND THAT BACK PARKING LOT. TO HOUSE THE AMBULANCES UNDER. BUT IT'S NOT A FULL STRUCTURE. IT WILL BE JUST A LEAN TO TO PULL THEM UNDER TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE WEATHER AND FROM THE ELEMENTS OUT THERE. SO. SO WOULD THEY. WOULD THEY? THEY WOULDN'T START UP THERE IN THE PARKING LOT. NO. THEY WILL. THEY WILL NOT START UP WITH LIGHTS, SIRENS OR ANY OF THAT UNTIL THEY HIT A MAJOR ACCESS ROAD. 14TH OR ONE OF THOSE? WE TRY AND RESPECT THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AROUND, AND WE'VE ALREADY SET POLICIES TO STATE WHEN AND WHERE THEY CAN START UP WITH LIGHTS AND SIRENS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO START UP IN THE BACK OF THE THAT WITH RESIDENTIAL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. WE WILL WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT MAJOR INTERSECTION, DEPENDING ON WHICH DIRECTION WE ARE GOING FOR THE CALLS OR THE RESPONSE LOCATIONS WHICH WILL LIMIT THE IMPACT. WE HAVE AMBULANCES STAGED THROUGHOUT THE CITY ALREADY. AND AGAIN, MOST OF THOSE ARE IN BUSINESS AREAS AND LOCATIONS. THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE OUR EXTENDED CREW QUARTERS. OUR 48 HOUR SHIFTS WHERE THEY HAVE A PLACE TO GO TO REST, TO SLEEP AND STUFF IN BETWEEN RESPONSES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR MOTION? A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE PROPOSED PLAN OF OPERATIONS. I SECOND. MR. BARNETT, MR. HOUSE. MISS COCKER? YES. MR. HALLIBURTON. YES. MISS LEWIS? YES. MR. SEITZ? YES. AND MR. BENHAM. YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO. CASE NUMBER FIVE. ZONING CASE 2025 DASH TEN RECEIVED REPORT. HOLD DISCUSSION. PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE ACTION ON THE REQUEST FROM THE OWNER TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 12.5 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL OPEN TO PATIO HOME LOCATED AT THE 3400 TO 3500 BLOCKS OF MAPLE STREET. ADAM. HELLO. MY NAME IS ADAM HOLLAND. I'M A PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE. THIS IS. THIS IS CRAZY. 2025 TEN REPRESENTED BY HEAT CLASSIC. THIS IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 12.47 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL OPEN TO PATIO HOMES. HERE'S AN AERIAL LOCATION MAP KIND OF SHOWING THE AREA TO BE REZONED. THIS IS 3500 BLOCK OF MAPLE STREET. HERE IS A CURRENT ZONING MAP OF THE PROPERTY. JUST TO THE NORTH. THERE'S MORE PATIO HOME ZONING. WELL, TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS ALLY ZONING. AND THEN ACROSS MAPLE TO THE EAST IS MORE LEE ZONING. HERE ARE SOME PROPERTY VIEWS OF THE PROPERTY. CURRENTLY, THE HOUSES THAT WERE ON THERE HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED. TO THE TO THE SOUTH IS SOME INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES. AND THEN ALSO ACROSS THE STREET. MORE INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE JUST NORTH OF THE PROPERTY. AS I'VE SHOWN. HERE ARE SOME THE NOTIFICATION AREA MAP. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED TO THIS REQUEST. STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THIS REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING. GENERALLY ACCEPTED PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL. AND THE LDC STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ADAM? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THIS MATTER? SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS OR MOTIONS? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE FIRST. I'LL SECOND. IT WAS A RACE. WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANT TO CALL MR. HORSE OR MR. SEITZ. I'LL GIVE IT TO MY SWEET MATE OVER HERE. OKAY. SO, MITCH, WITH THE FIRST MR. HOUSE. WITH THE SECOND. MR. BARNETT? YES, MR. HOUSE. MISS COCKER? YES. MR. HALLIBURTON? YES. MISS LEWIS? YES. MR. SEITZ? YES. AND MR. BENHAM. YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX. ZONING CASE 2025 DASH 11 RECEIVER REPORT. HOLD A DISCUSSION. PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM THE OWNER. TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 0.32 ACRES FROM MEDIUM DENSITY TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. LOCATED AT 1233 AND 1241 CHERRY STREET. LEGAL DESCRIPTION. LOT SEVEN AND EIGHT, BLOCK T ON THE JOHNSON SUBDIVISION. CLARISSA. HELLO, MY NAME IS CLARISSA. [00:20:01] WE'RE LOOKING TODAY AT Z 20 2511. THE AGENT FOR THIS PROJECT IS HAYDEN JOHNSON WITH PAUL JOHNSON ASSOCIATES. THE REQUEST IS TO RESUME FOR MEDIUM DENSITY TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE PARCELS, AS NOTED. 1233 AND 1241 CHERRY STREET. HERE IS THE LOCATION THERE, RIGHT ON THE NEAR THE SOUTH BROADWAY IN THE CORNER OF SOUTH 13TH AND CHERRY THE PROPERTY IS ZONED MEDIUM DENSITY. AND THERE IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ALONG TREADWAY WITH MEDIUM DENSITY ACROSS FROM THE CHERRY STREET. THESE ARE THE ALLOWED USES IN MEDIUM DENSITY, AND THIS WOULD BE YOUR ALLOWED USES IN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING. THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY IN SURROUNDING AREAS. WE SEND OUT NOTIFICATION. WE DIDN'T RECEIVED ANY WITHIN THE IN OUR FAVOR AND OPPOSITION WITHIN THE ALLOWED TIME FOR THIS MEETING. THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING. GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES AND THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE LDC STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TODAY. IT WOULD BE FOR APPROVAL. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CLARISSA? SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX. ANYONE HERE TO ADDRESS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX? SEE NO ONE. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS OR MOTION. HOUSES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THOSE ARE MEDIUM DENSITY. THERE ARE OTHER BLOCKS ALONG SOUTH 13TH THAT ARE LIKE THE FULL BLOCK. IS THAT LIKE THIS? THIS ZONING, LIKE JUST THE BLOCK JUST NORTH. IT IS THE WHOLE THING ON BOTH SIDES, EVEN FACING THE MEDIUM DISTANCE DENSITY. BUT THE LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL STORAGE WITH SOME INSTRUMENT, WITH SOME INDUSTRIAL MAINTENANCE. IT LOOKS LIKE TO SUPPORT THE PROPERTIES ALONG TREADWAY. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF FACING MORE TOWARDS THAT WAY OF STORAGE. OKAY. BUT THAT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THE MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MR.. WITH A SECOND. MR.. BARNETT? YES. MR.. HOUSE. MISS COCKER? YES. MR. HALLIBURTON? YES. MISS LEWIS? YES. MR. SEITZ? YES. AND MR. BENHAM. YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. ZONING CASE 20 2512 RECEIVER REPORT. HOLD A DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM THE OWNER. THE CHANGE TO THE ZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 0.31 ACRES FROM GENERAL RETAIL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL, LOCATED AT 1801 GRAPE STREET. WE. THOUGHT WE'D GONE BLIND THERE. JUST FOR A SECOND. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KARA. VOICE I'M REPRESENTING CASE. I'M A PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE REPRESENTING CASE Z 20 512. THE AGENT IS MR. RAMZAN. RAMZAN? ONLY SORRY IF I SAID THAT. WRONG CHANGE. THE REQUEST HAS CHANGED THE ZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 2.31 ACRES FROM GENERAL RETAIL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL, LOCATED AT 1801 GRAPE STREET. HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL LOCATION MAP. THE ZONING MAP THERE IS GENERAL RETAIL TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY. THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROPERTY VIEWS AND SURROUNDING PROPERTY VIEWS. NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT IN A 200 FOOT BUFFER TO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. THESE ARE THE PERMITTED USES IN GENERAL RETAIL ZONING. THE PERMITTED USES IN GENERAL. COMMERCIAL ZONING. THE REQUEST IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING. AND GENERALLY ACCEPTED PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE LDC. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WHY IS Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION A DENIAL WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES? IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL AROUND THE GENERAL RETAIL ZONING, THE PROPERTY, THE MINI MART THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE DENSER. WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE THEY LOOKING TO DO IN THE GENERAL TO ALLOW THE CAR SALES? CAR SALES? IS IT A IS THERE A CONDITIONAL USE OPTION RELATED TO GENERAL RETAIL? NO, SIR. IT CAN'T BE A LARGE CAR LOT. [00:25:02] IT'D BE A RELATIVELY SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD LOT. WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? YES. I THINK IT'S BEING OPERATED AS A USED CAR LOT RIGHT NOW. HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN? SEVEN YEARS. WELL, I MEAN, IT'S QUITE A FEW YEARS. I DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE. OKAY. WELL, I PASS BY THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY. IT STARTED OUT WITH, I THINK, THE CORNER STORE, AND THEN IT WAS OPERATIONAL THERE FOR A LONG TIME. AND THEN YOU STARTED SEEING A LOT OF CARS. AND THEN IT LOOKED LIKE PLANNING AND ZONING COMPLIANCE CAME THROUGH AND TOLD THEM THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PERMIT TO SELL VEHICLES THERE. SO ALTHOUGH THAT GRAPE STREET IS MIXED USE I GUESS THAT MY CONCERN IS WHAT THE CHELSEA ARE, THAT THE HOUSE IS BEHIND BUT BEHIND THERE. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S WHERE IT'S SURROUNDED. ALL HOUSES ALL AROUND IT. OKAY. THERE IS IF WE GO BACK UP TO THE ZONING MAP. UP ONE, BACK DOWN THIS ONE. I'M SORRY. DOWN TO TWO MORE. ONE MORE. NO OTHER WAY. YEAH. THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE SORRY. GO BACK UP. MAYBE THERE IS. THAT'S THE ONE. PROPERTY 63708 ON THE CORNER OF NORTH 19TH. AND. GREAT. RIGHT THERE. THAT IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONED RIGHT NOW. CORRECT. A WALMART. IT'S A IT'S AN INTERNET CAFE. SO THERE IS SOME GENERAL COMMERCIAL ON THIS THOROUGHFARE AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW. AND GRAPE WOULD BE MORE OF AN ARTERIAL THAN IS DEFINITELY ARTERIAL THAN, THAN OTHER ROADS. WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT ON POTENTIALLY. I KNOW WE DON'T ALWAYS LOVE THEM, BUT A LIKE A PPD TO. SO THERE COULD BE A REGULATION OF A LOT, NO MORE THAN 12 CARS OR ANY TYPE OF COMPROMISE OF TRYING TO KEEP THIS AS A, AS A SMALLER OPERATION. I MEAN, I THINK THE LITERAL SPACE IS GOING TO KEEP IT THAT WAY, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE SPOT ZONING CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE Y'ALL ARE EXPRESSING. THERE WAS NOT. BUT WE CAN WE ARE OPEN TO THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KYRA? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WOULD ANYONE ELSE? WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THIS MATTER? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THIS, SIR? YES, SIR. WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME? AND MY NAME IS SHERYL LEE. I'M THE OWNER OF PROPERTY OWNER AND THE CAR LOT. AND WE HAVE A MINI MART THERE. I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2000. 20. I'VE BEEN FOR THE I'M SORRY. SINCE 25 YEARS FOR THE MINI MART IN 2017. I CAME TO SYRIA BEFORE I MOVED FROM ANTON HERE FROM MY CAR LOT. THEY GAVE ME THIS PERMISSION LETTER WHERE IT SHOWS VERY CLEARLY I'M ALLOWED TO SELL AUTOMOBILE. OTHERWISE I WOULD NOT APPLY THE DEALER LICENSE. YOU KNOW, I HAVE IT SINCE 2017. I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2017 FOR CAR LOT. AND SINCE, YOU KNOW, I GOT THIS VIOLATION LETTER. I'VE BEEN TO THEIR OFFICE ABOUT SIX TIMES. NOT ONCE. THEY MAKE YOU REQUIRE SIGN WHAT YOU CAME FOR OR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. THEY TAKE YOUR DOCUMENTS AND YOU JUST GO. SO THEY SHOULD HAVE A PRODUCT CALLED THAT. WHY DID I COME, YOU KNOW, TO THE CITY HALL, YOU KNOW, PLANNING, ZONING, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, IT'S GIVEN TO ME BY THE CITY. YOU KNOW, IT SHOWS. WHEN YOU EVEN PRINTED THAT DAY IN 2017. YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT YELLOW HIGHLIGHT. YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO MAKE A COPY OF. STARTED DOWN THIS WAY, SIR. HOW MANY? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DETAIL. LIKE HOW MUCH? HOW MANY? CAROUSEL. HOW MANY ARE KEEPING LIGHT? IF YOU WANT, YOU KNOW. YES, SIR. AND THEN I'VE BEEN THERE EIGHT YEAR, AND I, YOU KNOW, I DO THE BY THE DEALER DMV. I HAVE A LICENSE SINCE 2017, AND DONUT SHOP, A&M, WHICH IS FOR HOUSE FROM MY STORE, WHICH IS JC AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S LIKE NOT EVEN 300FT. AND MY PROPERTY DOES NOT ATTACH TO ANY HOUSE. WE HAVE AN ALLEY IN THE BACK ACROSS FROM ME. I'M SORRY. ACROSS FROM ME. IT USED TO BE NOVA PROJECT. NOW IT'S HALF A HOUSE. THEY GET 60 INMATES THERE, WHICH THEY HAVE HIGH TRAFFIC FOR. [00:30:04] BLOCK FROM ME. WALMART. ONE BLOCK ON HICKORY IS A HENDRICK. AND THERE'S A ONE CAR LOT. WILLIAM AUTO GROUP GRIP ON GRAPE STREET ON THE CLOSE TO SOUTH FIRST. SO THAT STREET AND THERE'S THE CHURCHES, YOU KNOW, AND I HAVE A MINI MART THERE, WHICH I GET ABOUT 5000 TO 6000 CUSTOMER A DAY, WHICH I BROUGHT THE PROOF HERE, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, WE GET CLOSE TO 60,000 CUSTOMERS A YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND THEN I HAVE A VERY SMALL CAR LOT. I, YOU KNOW, SINCE AFTER MY HEALTH, YOU KNOW, I JUST SELL VERY LIKE SMALL CARS. LAST YEAR BY DMV RECORD, I SOLD ONLY NINE CARS. SOLD. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A BIG DEALER. I KEEP 5 TO 7 CARS, SOMETIMES TEN, BECAUSE THEY GET TIME REPOSSESSED. SO I GIVE THEM MORE. WE TAKE IT TO AUCTION. AND I REQUEST THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS RETAIL SHOULD BE CONVERTED TO JC SO I CAN LEGALLY SELL THE CAR THERE. AND I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE EIGHT YEARS. IT SHOULD FALL UNDER, YOU KNOW, GRANDFATHER CLAUSE OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, IT'S A REQUEST. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, ONE THING ON YOUR THIS THIS ITEM THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US AT THE CITY HIGHLIGHTED THE GENERAL RETAIL DOES ALLOW FOR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE FOR SMALL VEHICLES, DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SALE. YEAH, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE GAME EVEN ASKED FOR IT. I DID NOT ASK FOR. I'M NOT A MECHANIC. YOU KNOW, I MOVED FROM ANSAN FOOD MART TO ABILENE FOOD MART. YOU KNOW, AUTO MART, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY GAVE ME. AND THE GUY WAS NICE. HE SAID, YOU, YOU KNOW, HE EVEN MARKED THE PERMIT LEGAL, AND IT COST $3,000 A YEAR TO APPLY FOR ALL THIS LICENSE AND BOND INSURANCE. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THERE EIGHT YEARS, YOU KNOW. YEAH. I DEFINITELY SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU. ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY RESIDENTIAL COMPLAINTS OR ANYTHING? NO, SIR. NO. AND LIKE SHE SAID, WE WERE FAVORED. 3 OR 4 OF THEM. NOT NOBODY OBJECT TO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MAX AMOUNT OF CARS YOU COULD HAVE ON YOUR LOT? RIGHT NOW, TODAY I HAVE SIX CAR AND ONE CAMERA. SO SEVEN CARS. BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE MAX AMOUNT IF YOU WERE? USUALLY I KEEP NO MORE THAN TEN AT ALL. IF YOU ALLOW ME THAT, I KEEP LESS THAN THAT. YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF WE DID A PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH JUST FOR THE ALLOWANCE OF A SMALL CAR LOT UNDER 12 CARS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT OF OF TRYING TO KEEP IT. BECAUSE MY FEAR WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE IF YOU WERE TO LEAVE. AND THEN THEN THAT WHOLE LOT BECOMES GENERAL COMMERCIAL. AND THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT COMES IN THAT'S BIGGER OR DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE OPERATING. YES. AND SO BECAUSE I AGREE WITH KEVIN, YOU'VE BEEN THERE. YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR EIGHT YEARS. I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE FRUSTRATION OF FEELING LIKE THIS HAS BEEN A CHANGE WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE DOING EVERYTHING IN COMPLIANCE. THAT'S FINE. 1012 CAR. I'M HAPPY. YEAH. I LIKE THE IDEA. ARE YOU CONSIDERING A MOTION TO TABLE AND ALLOW THE CITY TO RESTRUCTURE AS A PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT? YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD LIST THAT AS A CONDITION. POTENTIALLY, LIKE BUT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE NEED TO GO ABOUT THAT. BUT THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. AFTER YOU MAKE COPY, I TAKE THAT ONE BACK. OH, YES. OH, YEAH. WE'LL MAKE COPIES OF THIS FOR THE RECORD. MAKE A COPY FOR OUR RECORD SINCE THE BOARD HAS SEEN IT. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. HOLD ON TO IT ALL. IS ANYONE ELSE HERE TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER? SEE, NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. TIM, CAN I ASK YOU ON ON OUR OWN MOTION? CAN WE PROPOSE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE WITH CONDITIONS? OR COULD IT BE A GC THAT'S CONDITIONED ONLY FOR THIS? LIKE WHAT? WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO COME UP WITH THAT? I THINK THE, THE BEST AND MOST EFFICIENT IS FOR THE APPLICANT TO PULL IT RIGHT NOW, AND THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK AT A LATER DATE FOR RECONSIDERATION AND NOT ACT ON IT AT ALL AT THIS MEETING. YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF PULLING IT AT THE MC, PULLING HIS REQUEST SO THAT STAFF WOULD HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS, AND THEN WE COULD BRING IT BACK AFTER NOTIFICATION AGAIN TO FOR CONSIDERATION AT A LATER DATE. OKAY. WITH THAT, REQUIRE HIM TO AN ADDITIONAL FEE IF IF IT GOES THE PD ROUTE, THEN THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL FEE. WE WOULD JUST CALCULATE THE DIFFERENCE AND SET IT UP. OKAY. DID YOU UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION? DISCUSSION AMONG OUR COMMISSIONERS. I DON'T WANT TO PROPOSE SOMETHING FOR HIM TO GO BACK AND DO SOMETHING OR SPEND MORE MONEY AND THEN COME BACK BEFORE US AND WE SAY NO, BUT JUST TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN OPERATING AND IS ON A MAJOR ROAD WHERE THERE IS OTHER GENERAL COMMERCIAL. I PERSONALLY DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH HOW IT'S BEING OPERATED TODAY. I DON'T EITHER. MY ISSUE IS MORE IN THE FUTURE OF IT BEING GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND SOMEBODY COMING IN AND WIPING IT AND DOING SOMETHING. YEAH, BUT EVEN THAT, [00:35:01] I'LL TELL YOU, I DON'T HAVE HUGE ISSUES. IT'S NOT A HUGE PLOT OF LAND. AS YOU MENTIONED, WALMART IS JUST DOWN THE STREET. THERE ARE OTHER GENERAL COMMERCIALS SCATTERED ALONG THAT HAS GOT LOTS OF COMMERCIALS. AND SO, I MEAN, I AM I AM RELATIVELY OKAY WITH WITH, WITH IT BEING GENERAL COMMERCIAL GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE LAND, BUT JUST TRYING TO FIND A COMPROMISE THAT ALSO OUR PLANNERS WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE ENDORSING IS MY ONLY REASON TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION, I AGREE. I WOULD I THINK I WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IT IF IT HAD BEEN PRESENTING A PROBLEM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT I AM CONCERNED AGAIN ABOUT KIND OF ZONING A GENERAL COMMERCIAL THAT ALLOWS USES THAT WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING TODAY. BUT AGAIN, YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT IS AN ARTERIAL ROAD. I THINK WE'VE GOT GC RIGHT THERE ON THE SAME CORNER. I THINK I'D BE COMFORTABLE ZONING THIS GENERAL COMMERCIAL. PERSONALLY, I AGREE WITH KEVIN. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER YOU APPROVE THE ZONING OR NOT. OKAY, SO THAT'S REALLY A POLICY DECISION. OKAY. I FELT LIKE YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. NO, NO I DIDN'T. UNLESS. UNLESS THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO PULL THE ITEM. WELL, LET ME ASK THAT. CAN WE? YES. WE'LL REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SIR, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP AGAIN? KEVIN. SO IT'S POSSIBLE THERE'D BE FAVORABLE TO JUST REZONE THIS GENERAL COMMERCIAL? YES, SIR. BUT THE REQUEST OR WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING IS GIVING YOU THE OPTION TO PULL THIS OFF OF THE AGENDA AND COME BACK WITH US WITH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT WOULD ALLOW YOUR SPECIFIC USES, WHICH I'D PERSONALLY BE A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH. BUT OR WE CAN JUST VOTE TODAY AND WE'LL SEE. OKAY. I THINK EITHER WAY, IF IT GETS TURNED DOWN, THEN HE CAN RE APPROACH FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M AN AGREEMENT TO. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SORRY. NO. YOU'RE GOOD. SORRY. I DIDN'T REALIZE WE HADN'T. YEAH. I THINK WITH THE THE STREET THAT IT IS BEING ARTERIAL, THAT THERE'S OTHER GENERAL COMMERCIAL THE SIZE OF THE LOT. I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT ANYWHERE DOWN THE ROAD. SOMETHING CHANGING AND HAVING A DRASTIC PROBLEM THERE. I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AS WELL. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OR SECOND A MOTION TO APPROVE? OKAY. SECOND. I'M PASTEUR. WE'RE GOING TO LET WE'RE GOING TO LET ZACH HAVE THIS ONE. KEVIN WITH THE MOTION. ZACH WITH THE SECOND TO APPROVE THE THE CHANGE. NO CONDITIONS, MR. BARNETT. YES, MR. HOUSE? YES, MISS COCKER? MR. HALLIBURTON? YES. MISS LEWIS? YES. MR. SEITZ? YES. AND MR. BYNUM. YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES. SO WE'LL SAY WE ARE JUST A RECOMMENDING BOARD TO CITY COUNCIL. THERE WILL BE TWO HEARINGS ON THIS AT CITY COUNCIL, WHERE THEY WILL READ IT. ONCE THE SECOND TIME THEY'LL VOTE ON IT. AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS THE CHANCE. THEY DISAGREE WITH US ALL THE TIME. BUT AT LEAST FROM OUR STANDPOINT TODAY, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH YOU MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A GOOD DAY, SIR. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. ZONING CASE 2025 DASH 13 RECEIVER REPORT. HOLD A DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM THE OWNERS TO AMEND THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. DISTRICT PD DASH 177 SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY USES WITH ALTERNATIVE LOT DIMENSIONS LOCATED ALONG JOLLY ROGERS ROAD. MADAM. GOOD AFTERNOON ONCE AGAIN. MY NAME IS ADAM HOLLAND, PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE. THIS IS THE ZONING CASE Z 20 2513. THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE TERMS OF PD 177 SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW A 4500 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOTS. HERE YOU CAN SEE AN AERIAL LOCATION MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY. IN QUESTION. THIS IS LOCATED ALONG JOLLY ROGERS ROAD AND CALDWELL ROAD. HERE IS A CURRENT ZONING MAP OF THE PROPERTY. THIS IS MOSTLY SURROUNDED ON THE EAST AND THE SOUTH SIDE BY AGRICULTURAL OPEN. WITH SOME MH ZONING TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY. AND THE PD IS JUST NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE REST OF THE PD 177. WE HERE ARE SOME VIEWS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT LAND. JUST TO THE NORTH OF IT. A PORTION OF IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AS WELL. WE DID RECEIVE ONE RECENTLY IN IN OPPOSITION TO THIS CASE. BUT IT WAS JUST OUT OF THE DEADLINE. TO PLACE IT ON THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION. IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO THE OBJECTION? IT WAS JUST A RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION. TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THE REQUEST IS. [00:40:04] THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE FROM THE MINIMUM 5000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS WITH A 50 FOOT MINIMUM WIDTH TO 4500 SQUARE FOOT LOTS WITH A MINIMUM WIDTH OF 40FT. SO STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THIS REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING, GENERALLY ACCEPTED PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE LDC. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ADAM? THANK YOU. ADAM. WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONING ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. ANYONE HERE TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM? GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M COREY DOOLAN WITH AMD ENGINEERING. I REPRESENT THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY. WE'RE DOING THE DEVELOPMENT, ENGINEERING, SURVEYING FOR THIS. THERE'S A POTENTIAL CUSTOMER THAT'S REQUESTED SMALLER LOTS. KIND OF FITS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE STATE'S ATTEMPTING TO DO WITH SENATE BILL 15. WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF DEMAND FROM BUILDERS THAT WANT TO BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE HOMES. AND ONE OF THE EASY WAYS TO DO THAT IS TO BUILD SMALLER HOMES ON SMALLER LOTS. AND SO THAT'S AN EFFORT TO MEET THAT NEED. WE HAVE A SPECIFIC CUSTOMER THAT HAS REQUESTED THIS PARTICULAR SIZE LOT. WE'RE GETTING THIS REQUEST IN A LOT OF CITIES RIGHT NOW AND ANTICIPATE MORE OF THIS IN THE FUTURE, BUT BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I APPRECIATE ADAM AND HIS HIS PRESENTATION. OTHER THAN THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR ME. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE ON THIS MATTER? GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M BRAD BARDEN. I LIVE AT FOUR, FIVE, SEVEN JOLLY ROGERS ROAD. I CAME UP ON FOUR AND 28 AND PUT UP, I GUESS, THREE OPPOSITIONS TO THIS AND TURNED THEM IN. BUT I THEN SHOWED UP TO THE MEETING AND IT HAD BEEN CANCELED, SO. OH. SO UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. BUT THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION. MY QUESTION IS, AND IT'S THE SAME AS IT HAS BEEN THE FIRST TIME THEY DID THIS. THIS NORTHERN SECTION, I THINK, WAS ALREADY ZONED FOR PATIO HOMES OR WHATEVER THE TITLE WAS, AND THIS WAS GOING TO BE LIKE AN SES SIX, I THINK ORIGINALLY. MY QUESTION IS, IS JUST HOW MANY MORE HOMES OR LOTS IS THIS GOING TO PRODUCE? AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, SAME ISSUE WITH THE DRAINAGE AND THE ROADS. I'VE LIVED OUT THERE SINCE 2000 AND, AND A LOT OF WATER COMES OFF OF THIS ROAD. AND I KNOW LAST TIME Y'ALL SAID, WELL, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH WITH THE ROADS OR WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH THIS, BUT BUT IT'S JUST THIS DOING THIS KIND OF ADDS TO THE TO THAT QUESTION THAT I HAVE. IT'S GOING TO BE MORE VOLUME, HOPEFULLY MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE. AND THEN ALSO I'M CURIOUS OF HOW MANY HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT STARTED ON ON THAT NORTHERN PART WITH THIS SMALLER SUBDIVISION. WITH THIS I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NOT AN RS6, BUT IT'D BE WHAT WOULD BE THE TITLE OF IT? RS EIGHT OR RS 12? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE. OKAY. I SEE, I DON'T SEE IT. IT'S JUST LISTED AS A PD. YEAH, IT DIDN'T SAY SO. THERE'S THAT SMALL. BUT LIKE I SAY, WE YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST MY $0.02 ON IT. WHAT ABOUT HIM? BACK UP. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR. THIS ONE HE'S TALKING ABOUT NORTHERN SECTION. YEAH. THESE ARE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS. THE WHOLE THING WAS A PD WITH WITH REDUCED WIDTHS BITS AND SETBACKS BASED ON THIS FROM THE BEGINNING. THIS IS JUST MAKING AN EVEN MORE REDUCED WIDTH. ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE NORTHERN PORTION. WE HAVE RECENTLY COMPLETED THE THE FIRST PHASE ON THE NORTH IT'S WATERCRESS ROAD HAS BEEN BUILT. THERE ARE, I BELIEVE 3 OR 4 HOMES FOR HOMES ARE FORMED UP AND STARTED PLUMBING ROUGH IN AND, AND SLAB WORK. IT'S IT'S CONTINUING. THOSE HOMES ARE STILL THE SAME. WE DO HAVE THE BUFFER THAT WE PUT IN. THAT WAS TOWNHOMES. NOW IT'S I THINK THEY WERE ACTUALLY FINALIZED AS DUPLEXES, BUT A, A BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE, THE MOBILE HOMES AROUND THE PERIMETER. AS FOR THE INCREASE IN NUMBERS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING FROM A 50 FOOT LOT TO A 40 TO 45 FOOT LOT. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A 20% INCREASE ROUGHLY. WE'VE ALREADY INCREASED THE POND THAT WE HAVE PLANNED AT THE CORNER OF CALDWELL AND JOLLY ROGERS. WE WILL CERTAINLY DO ALL OF OUR DRAINAGE ANALYZES BASED OFF OF THE RUNOFF. MAKE SURE THAT WE DO NOT FLOOD DOWNSTREAM. [00:45:01] I'VE NOTIFIED OUR CUSTOMER AND TOLD THEM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DIG A BIGGER POND TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS ADDITIONAL RUNOFF. AND SO THOSE THINGS WILL BE DONE, AND THOSE WILL GO THROUGH YOUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND THEY WILL BE HEAVILY SCRUTINIZED, I CAN ASSURE YOU. SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS HIS QUESTIONS. IT WILL BE MORE ROUGHLY 15, 20% MORE LOTS. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE TO ADDRESS THIS MATTER? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS OR ANY MOTIONS? CAN WE GO TO THE MOTION PAGE? THIS ONE WAS RECOMMENDED JUST AS APPROVAL. NO CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND. MR. BARNETT. YES. MR. HOUSE? YES, MISS. COKER. MR. HALLIBURTON. YES. MISS LEWIS? YES, MR. SEITZ? YES. AND MR. BENHAM. YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. ZONING CASE 20 2514. RECEIVE A REPORT. HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE ACTION ON THE REQUEST FROM THE OWNERS. TO AMEND THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. DISTRICT PD 104, SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW MULTIFAMILY BASED ZONING FOR TRACK FIVE. ADAM. GOOD AFTERNOON. ONCE AGAIN, ADAM HOLLAND, PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE. THIS IS ZONING CASE Z 20 2514. THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE TERMS OF PD 104 TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY USES. WITHIN THIS PD. THIS IS LOCATED AT THE 700 BLOCK OF EAST SOUTH 27TH STREET. HERE'S AN AERIAL LOCATION MAP SHOWING KIND OF THE AREA WHERE THIS THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE IS HERE IS A CURRENT ZONING MAP OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS NOT SHOWN, BUT THAT PROPERTY JUST TO THE EAST, TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS PART OF THIS PD. IT WAS ADDED INTO THIS PD IN 2023, I BELIEVE. JUST TO THE NORTH. THERE'S SOME AGRICULTURAL OPEN ZONING ALONG WITH ANOTHER PD TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY USES. AND THEN THERE'S SOME GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH AND A LITTLE BIT TO THE EAST WITH SOME HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST AS WELL. SORRY, ADAM, WE'RE ON THAT SLIDE. GO AHEAD. THE PROPERTY YOU'RE SAYING THAT IS 106962. THAT PROPERTY IS PART OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AS WELL. THANK YOU. HERE ARE SOME VIEWS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A GATE TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, AS WELL AS THE VACANT PROPERTY THAT EXISTS. AND YOU CAN SEE A PORTION OF THAT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT JUST TO THE THE EAST OF THE REQUEST AREA. HERE IS A MAP KIND OF SHOWING THE REQUEST AREA. THIS IS A PART OF TRACT FIVE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY USE IN. TRACT FIVE ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY. BUT NOT AT THE RESIDENTIAL. MULTIFAMILY DENSITY. IT ONLY ALLOWS 18 UNITS PER ACRE. AND THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO GET THE 24 UNITS PER ACRE MAXIMUM. I ACCIDENTALLY LEFT THAT OVER THERE, BUT THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT PLAN SHOWING ROUGHLY WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. WITH THE PROPOSED SO 282 UNITS AND PREVIOUSLY IT WAS 230 OR SOMETHING. CORRECT. AROUND THAT? YES. WE SENT OUT NOTIFICATIONS AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WITHIN THE TIME ALLOTTED FOR PLACING IT ON THIS PRESENTATION. STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THIS REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING. GENERALLY ACCEPTED PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE LDC. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR ME. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ADAM? THANK YOU SIR. WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. ANYONE HERE TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER? SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS OR A MOTION. I THINK THERE'S ALREADY MULTIFAMILY NEARBY. THIS IS NOT INCREASING IT TOO MUCH. I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT. I MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND. MR. BARNETT. YES. MR. HOUSE? YES. MISS. COCKER. YES. MR. HALLIBURTON. YES. MISS LEWIS? YES. MR. SEITZ? YES. AND MR. BENHAM. YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN. ZONING CASE 2025 DASH 15 RECEIVED A REPORT. [00:50:02] WHOLE DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE ACTION ON REQUEST FROM THE OWNERS. TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 11.25 ACRES OF AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACE. TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT, TO MULTI OR AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO MULTIFAMILY. LOCATED AT 1717 MUSGROVE BOULEVARD. KIERA. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KARA VALOIS. I'M A PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE. TODAY I'M REPRESENTING CASE Z 20 2515. THE AGENT IS JEFF HAGOOD. THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 11.25 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL, OPEN AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO MULTIFAMILY, LOCATED AT 1717 MUSGROVE BOULEVARD. HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL LOCATION MAP. THE ZONING MAP INTO THE SOUTH IS ALL HOTELS. HERE WE HAVE SOME PROPERTY VIEWS AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. PERMITTED USES AND THE AGRICULTURAL OPEN ZONING. PERMITTED USES IN MULTIFAMILY ZONING. NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT IN A 200 FOOT BUFFER. ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION. THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING. GENERALLY ACCEPTED PLANNING PRINCIPLES IN THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE LDC STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO THEY'RE LEAVING THAT BOTTOM CORNER PLAN DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT? CORRECT. WHAT'S THE BASE ZONING IN THAT PLAN? DEVELOPMENT? IT. I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP. IT'S OKAY. IT'S NOT TOO MATERIAL. I WAS JUST INTERESTED OF WHY IT WASN'T BEING INCLUDED IN THIS QUESTION. BUT IT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FOR KIRA? THANK YOU. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO DISCUSS? YES, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARK LEONE. I WORK FOR CROSS ARCHITECTS, LOCATED AT 879 JUNCTION DRIVE IN ALLEN, TEXAS. I'M THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD DESIGNING AND ASSISTING THE OWNER WITH THIS PROJECT. JUST TO KIND OF SPEAK ABOUT IT, I WILL ANSWER THAT FIRST QUESTION YOU ASKED A MOMENT AGO. THAT HARD CORNER DOWN IN THE RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF MUSGRAVE AND SCOTTISH. WE'RE LEAVING THAT ZONE THE WAY IT IS, AND I BELIEVE THE BASE ZONING IS COMMERCIAL. OKAY. SO WE REALLY WANT TO LEAVE THAT CORNER. SEEMED IDEAL FOR A COMMERCIAL WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT POSITIONED BEHIND IT WAS THE THOUGHT. SO JUST TO KIND OF SPEAK TO THE PROJECT FIRST, AND THEN I'LL GET INTO OUR EXPERIENCE WHAT WE KIND OF BRING TO THE TABLE. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. AND I DO HAVE A BUNCH OF PRETTY COLOR PACKETS, RENDERING SITE PLANS. WHAT THE BUILDING'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. HAPPY TO HAND THOSE OUT. IS IT OKAY IF I APPROACH AND HAND THOSE OUT? IF YOU WANT TO SEE. SURE. EXCELLENT. WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE A COPY SO IT GETS ADDED TO OUR MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. SO LET ME JUST KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. FIRST, I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR THAT WE ARE PROPOSING JUST CHANGING TO BASE MULTIFAMILY ZONING. WE'RE ASKING FOR NO VARIANCES, NO STIPULATIONS. WE WANT TO GO WITH EXACTLY YOUR BASE MULTIFAMILY, THE ZONING, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN TODAY, WITH NO EXCEPTIONS. WE'RE PROPOSING 240 APARTMENT UNITS. AND TO BE VERY CLEAR, THESE ARE MARKET RATE LUXURY APARTMENTS. THERE'S NO AFFORDABLE ASPECT TO IT, NO ASSISTED LIVING ASPECT TO IT. THESE ARE HIGH END LUXURY APARTMENTS. IS THE INTENT. LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE ARE 240 UNITS. THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE ONE AND TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS. WE PURPOSELY STAY AWAY FROM THREE BEDROOMS. IT JUST KIND OF PUTS A BIG TAX ON THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS IN THE AREAS. ALSO BRINGS LIKE KIND OF A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR. BIG FAMILIES END UP MOVING IN. SO THAT ONE AND TWO BEDROOM UNIT MIX IS KIND OF OUR, OUR BREAD AND BUTTER, 60% ONES, 40% TWOS IS THE RATIO WE'RE AIMING OUT RIGHT NOW. THERE GOING TO BE A TOTAL OR WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON IS A TOTAL OF EIGHT RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE THREE STORY BUILDINGS. AND THERE IS ONE LARGE BUILDING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN THAT A 1.0 SHEET, THAT BUILDING LABELED ONE A, THAT WILL HAVE OUR CLUBHOUSE INTEGRATED INTO THERE. AMENITIES IS ALWAYS THE BIGGEST THING THAT KIND OF SELL THESE APARTMENTS. YES, IT'S GREAT HAVING GRANITE AND STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES AND TILE BACK SPLASHES AND ALL THOSE GREAT THINGS AND NEW APARTMENTS. BUT REALLY, WE FOUND WHAT SELLS AND WHAT TENANTS ARE LOOKING FOR ARE HIGH END AMENITIES. SO THINGS LIKE A LUXURY FITNESS CENTER SO YOU CAN GO AND CANCEL YOUR GYM [00:55:01] MEMBERSHIP. HIGH END LUXURY POOL WITH A POOL, CABANA, SHADE STRUCTURES, BARBECUE GRILLS, CORNHOLE, PICKLEBALL ALL THOSE KIND OF MODERN AMENITIES THAT EVERYONE'S BEEN GETTING VERY EXCITED ABOUT. PICKLEBALL KIND OF BEING THE CRAZE RECENTLY. THEN KIND OF SPEAKING TO OUR EXPERIENCE THIS MONTH IS CROSS ARCHITECTS 22 YEAR ANNIVERSARY. WE SPECIALIZE IN ONLY APARTMENTS ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS. YEAH, I'LL HURRY THIS UP. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH, I'D SAY ABOUT 90% OF OUR WORK IS LOCATED HERE IN TEXAS. WE DO APARTMENTS ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS. THIS IS OUR BREAD AND BUTTER AND WHAT WE DO. OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GPD CONSTRUCTION. WHO'S THE DEVELOPER AND OWNER FOR THIS PROJECT? WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM SINCE 2019, AND IN THAT TIME WE HAVE BUILT NINE PROJECTS ACROSS TEXAS. HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THOSE NAMES AND ADDRESSES IF YOU WANT TO CHECK THEM OUT YOURSELVES. ONE OF THOSE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY AND THIS WILL BE OUR 10TH PROJECT TOGETHER. REPEATING THE SAME ENGINEERING TEAM MVP, STRUCTURAL CIVIL. WE'RE REPEAT OFFENDERS. WE HAVE A WELL-OILED MACHINE. WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, AND YEAH, WE HAVE A MARKET STUDY THAT KIND OF POINTED US TO THE CITY OF ABILENE. THAT THERE IS A DEMAND FOR THESE HIGH END LUXURY HOMES. JUST APARTMENTS. WE FOUND THAT WITH THE MARKET THE WAY IT IS, INTEREST RATES, A LOT OF FOLKS CAN'T NECESSARILY MOVE INTO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT THEY STILL WANT THOSE HIGH END NICE FINISHES AND AMENITIES YOU WOULD GET IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT IN AN AFFORDABLE PACKAGE LIKE AN APARTMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO HOPEFULLY DELIVER. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU. QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE BACKUP. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM? I THINK WE'VE NEEDED THIS FOR A LONG TIME. YEAH. SO NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS FOR A MOTION. MOTION? YEP. GO AHEAD. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. THE FIRST QUESTION WITH THE SECOND. GREAT MINDS QUESTION. YEAH. MR. BARNETT? YES. MR. HOUSE? YES. MISS COCKER? YES. MR. HALLIBURTON? YES. MISS LEWIS? YES. MR. SYKES? YES. AND MR. BYNUM. YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER 11. ZONING CASE 20 2516. RECEIVER REPORT TO DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM THE OWNER TO AMEND THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. SPECIFICALLY TO REDUCE THE INTERIOR SIDE YARD SETBACKS TO FIVE FEET. LOCATED AT 849 TO 970 MINDA STREET AND 933 TO 985 HALEY HAYLEY STREET. CLARISSA. HELLO. MY NAME IS CLARISSA. I'M A PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE. BEFORE YOU HAVE A CASE 20 2516. THE AGENT FOR THIS PROJECT IS JACOB MARTIN LLC. THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE TERMS OF A AND CONDITIONS OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT 188, SPECIFICALLY TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK TO FIVE FEET. THESE ARE THE LOCATIONS OF THE ADDRESSES DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY. IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD, AND THEY'RE JUST WANTING TO AMEND THE CONDITIONS. THE SETBACKS IS CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO THE WEST AND SOUTH AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH AND EAST. THIS OUR VIEWS OF THE PROPERTY, CURRENTLY VACANT LAND AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. YOU HAVE YOUR INDUSTRIAL USES AND ALSO YOUR RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH. WE SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS AND WE RECEIVE ZERO IN FAVOR AND SYRIAN OPPOSITION. THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING, GENERALLY ACCEPTED PLANNING PRINCIPLES, AND THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE LDC. A STAFF RECOMMENDATION TODAY WOULD BE APPROVAL. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CLARISSA? ISN'T IT ALREADY STUBBED OUT FOR THIS? YEAH. THERE IS SOME STUFF OUTSIDE ON THE PROPERTY, AND IT'S BASE IN THE PD IS PATIO HOME. RIGHT. SO IT ALREADY HAD RELATIVELY REDUCED SETBACKS. THIS IS JUST TO LAY IT OUT. YES. I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FOR CLARISSA? THANK YOU MA'AM. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ADDRESS IT? GOOD AFTERNOON. COMMISSION. CLAYTON, FARROW. JACOB AND MARTIN, AGENT FOR THE DEVELOPER. I BELIEVE IF I'M NOT WRONG, THE BASE ZONING IS ACTUALLY TOWNHOME AND I THINK THIS ACTUALLY THE AMENDMENT JUST MODIFIES WHAT IS AMOUNTS TO SOMETHING LIKE A TYPO. THE ZONING OF TOWNHOME ALLOWS FIVE FOOT SETBACKS. THE PD MODIFIED CERTAIN SETBACKS, INCLUDING THE SIDE TO SIX FOOT. ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO GO BACK TO FIVE FOOT AS ALLOWED BY TOWNHOME. OKAY. I THINK YOU PROBABLY COULD HAVE DONE IT. NOBODY WOULD HAVE NOTICED. BUT MAYBE. BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU. I LIKE BEING UP THERE. SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS MATTER? [01:00:01] YES, MA'AM. WOULD YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE? WE JUST CAN'T HEAR YOU. SORRY, I PROMISED MY BACK, BUT MY NAME IS AURORA ROYAL. AND ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY, THEY'VE ALREADY BUILT TWO HOUSES, LIKE, IN THERE, RIGHT UP AGAINST MY PROPERTY LINE. SO ABOUT FIVE FEET BECAUSE HE SAID. BUT IN THE BACK. THOSE SLOTS RUN DIAGONAL. MY PARENTS BOUGHT ALL THAT PROPERTY BEFORE THERE WAS ANY DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS WOOD AND I'VE GOT ALL THE PICTURES. I MEAN, THEY LIVED IN A LITTLE SHACK THAT WAS THERE, AND WHEN THEY CAME IN, I DID SEND IN THE OPPOSITION, HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY. YES, MA'AM. THEY RESCHEDULED AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO. I MEAN, IF THEY WANT TO DO THE FIVE FEET, I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE MY FENCE IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, BECAUSE THEY CAME IN AND IMMEDIATELY STARTED BUILDING AND THEY'VE COMPLETED TWO HOUSES. AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN THERE MY WHOLE LIFE. SO THIS SHOULD NOT IMPACT YOUR FENCE OR WHERE YOUR FENCE IS LOCATED ON YOUR PROPERTY. THIS IS I JUST DON'T WANT BECAUSE HE'S SAYING THEY'RE DEVELOPING, YOU KNOW, TO BEAUTIFY AND ALL THAT. I KEEP MY LOTS CLEAN. AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, THAT WE'VE ALL LIVED THERE FOREVER, YOU KNOW, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO MOVE IT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY, BUT I WILL AGREE TO THE FIVE FEET AND THAT'S FINE. BUT YES, I THINK THIS IS MORE IN CONTENTION TO THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. NOT IN CONTENTION. NOT TOUCHING YOUR LOT. YOUR LOT IS NOT PART OF THEIR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OKAY. THEY CAN'T THEY CAN'T CHANGE YOUR ZONING WITHOUT YOU BEING PART OF IT. OKAY. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THEY WERE IN THE DIAGONAL AND I'VE GOT THE BLUEPRINTS BEFORE ABILENE WAS EVEN, YOU KNOW. YES, MA'AM. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THEY CAN'T TOUCH IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ANYONE ELSE ON THIS MATTER? YES, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. I'M DOROTHY JONES, AND I LIVE AT 925 MINDA STREET. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS A PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING SHE SAID. BUT HOWEVER, THE FIVE FOOT, IS THAT GOING TO BE ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD OR OF THE STREET, OR IS IT GOING TO JUST BE FIVE BACK FOOT FOR JUST ONE PROPERTY. IT WILL BE THE FIVE FEET BETWEEN EACH OF THEIR HOUSES, EACH BETWEEN THE HOUSES. NOT THEY WILL HAVE THE NORMAL SETBACKS FROM THE STREET. OKAY. AS AS DEFINED BY THE TOWNHOMES DIVIDED UP. YES, MA'AM. IT'LL BE MORE THE SPACE BETWEEN EACH OF THE TOWNHOMES BUILT ON THOSE PROPERTIES. OKAY. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFICATION ON THAT I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE ON THIS MATTER? SEE, NO ONE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY DISCUSSION OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR MOTION. GLAD TO SEE MORE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'VE ALWAYS KEPT IT PRETTY IMMACULATE. YOU CAN TELL THERE'S A LOT OF PRIDE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO YES, I THINK IT'S A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD TO TO SEE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT IN. SO, KEVIN, IS THAT A MOTION? I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND AND SHANTI SECONDS. THANK YOU. MR. BARNETT. I DON'T THINK THERE WERE ANY CONDITIONS. CORRECT. YES, MA'AM. SORRY. CONTINUE, MR. HORSE. YES, MISS COCKER? YES, MR. HALLIBURTON. YES, MISS LEWIS. YES, MR. SEITZ? YES. AND MR. BENHAM? YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12. ZONING CASE 20 2517. RECEIVE A REPORT. HOLD A DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION ON A REQUEST FROM THE OWNER TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 2.06 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL. OPEN TO MULTIFAMILY. LOCATED AT 5233 OLD ANDY STREET. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KAREN LEWIS. I'M A PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE. TODAY I'M REPRESENTING CASE Z 2025 DASH 17. AGENT IS SAMUEL EDWARDS. REQUEST THE CHANGE. REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 2.06 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL OPEN TO MULTIFAMILY. LOCATED AT 5233 OLD ANDY. HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL LOCATION MAP. THE ZONING MAP. AND THERE IS MULTIFAMILY MULTI-FAMILY USES AROUND. HERE WE HAVE VIEWS FROM THE PROPERTY. NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT IN A 200 FOOT BUFFER. WE RECEIVED ZERO IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION. HERE'S THE PERMITTED USES IN AGRICULTURAL OPEN. PERMITTED USES IN MULTIFAMILY. THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING, AND GENERALLY ACCEPTED PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE LDC. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANYTHING FOR CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER. [01:05:02] ANYONE TO DISCUSS? YES, SIR. YES, I'M SAMUEL EDWARDS. I'M THE DEVELOPER ON THIS PROPERTY, AND BASICALLY, WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT RIGHT NOW, AND THE GOAL IS TO DEVELOP 14 DUPLEXES ON THIS PROPERTY. TWO STOREY. AND THERE WILL BE ALL TWO EITHER TUTUS AND THREE TWOS. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH. GOOD LUCK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE ON THIS MATTER? SEEING NONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS OR MOTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE. MEETING KEVIN. KEVIN. WITH THE FIRST, I THINK. KRISTEN. BE SHANTE FOR THE SECOND. MR. BARNETT? YES. MR. HOUSE. YES. MISS COKER. YES. MR. HALLIBURTON. YES. MISS LEWIS? YES. AND MR. SEITZ. YES. MR. BENHAM? YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. LAST ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 13. ZONING CASE 2025 DASH 18. RECEIVE A REPORT. HOLD A DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE ACTION ON THE REQUEST FROM THE OWNER. TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 12.96 ACRES FROM PATIO HOME. NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE. MEDIUM DENSITY, AND OFFICE TO NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL AND GENERAL RETAIL. LOCATED AT SIX 817 X HORSEHEAD CROSSING. CLARISSA. HELLO, MY NAME IS CLARISSA IVY. WE'RE LOOKING AT CWS 20 2518. THE AGENT FOR THIS CASE IS JACOB MARTIN LLC. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PATIO HOMES NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, MEDIUM DENSITY AND OFFICE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL IN GENERAL RETAIL. THE THE ADDRESS IS 1668 EIGHT 6817. IT'S HORSEHEAD CROSSING. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THIS IS NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF MCKINLEY AND HORSEHEAD CROSSING. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE DIFFERENT ZONING WITHIN THE PROPERTY. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH SEVERAL SLIDES OF THE CURRENT ALLOWED USES AND PATIO, HOME, NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, MEDIUM DENSITY AND OFFICE TO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL IN GENERAL RETAIL. THESE ARE SOME PROPERTY VIEWS SURROUNDING PROPERTY VIEWS. IT'S GETTING SLOWLY DEVELOPED OUT IN THAT AREA. THEY ARE PROPOSING THE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL ZONING TO BE TOWARDS THE NORTH AND THE GENERAL RETAIL TOWARDS THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY. WE'LL SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS. WE GOT ZERO IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION WITHIN THE TIME ALLOWED FOR THIS MEETING. THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES AND THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE LDC. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE APPROVAL. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CLARISSA? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. CLAYTON FARROW, AGENT FOR THE DEVELOPER JACOB MARTIN. AS CLARISSA MENTIONED, THIS IS A ZONING CASE TO SUPPORT. IT'S AN AMENDMENT OR IT'S A REZONE OF THE ORIGINAL ZONING. THE ORIGINAL ZONING WAS A HODGEPODGE OF USES. A LOT OF THEM. WE MET WITH THE PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER BEFORE THEY HAD DEVELOPED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAD DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK. PROVIDING USES THAT WERE IN LINE WITH ADJOINING A NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IN LINE WITH THAT, AS THE MARKET CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, 4 TO 5 YEARS. MY CLIENT IS SEEING MORE OF USES THAT WOULD BE IN LINE WITH RETAIL THAN PETIT HOME OR OFFICE THAN HE EXPECTED FOUR YEARS AGO. SO GIVEN ALL OF THAT SO YOU'RE GOOD. I'M SUPER DISTRACTED. HIS HIS REQUEST IS, IS TO GO BACK WITH WITH GR THAT WOULD FACE MCKINLEY AND HORSEHEAD, WHICH THOSE ARE BOTH COLLECTORS. COLLECTOR ROADS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL WOULD. WOULD BE AS BEING INTACT. THERE WE GO. AS A BUFFER TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE NORTH. OBVIOUSLY NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL PROVIDES HOURS OF OPERATION AND LIGHTING AND SCREENING THAT ARE BUILT INTO THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS TO HELP SOME MORE OF THE HIGH TRAFFIC RETAIL ON MCKINLEY. THAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL ON THE BACKSIDE TO BUFFER THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE BACK. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE TO ADDRESS THIS MATTER? THANK YOU. GUYS, I'M JASON GAZELLE. I REPRESENT SOUTHRIDGE, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH HERE. [01:10:01] SOUTHRIDGE HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2014. IS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED AS A A MORE HIGH END PRIVATE GATED COMMUNITY. IT'S GOT 105 RESIDENTIAL LOTS. AND WE OWN WHEN I SAY WE. FUNERAL DIRECTORS, LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY AND DIRECTORS INVESTMENT GROUP OWN 34 REMAINING LOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE REST OF THE OWNERS OF THE 105 ARE EITHER HOME OWNERS WHO HAVE BUILT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HOMEOWNERS WHO PLAN TO BUILD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR HOUSE HOME BUILDERS. WHO ARE WHO ARE ABIDING BY THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. NOW, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL OF THIS LAND, THERE'S, THERE'S CURRENTLY OF THE OWNER OF THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL WELL, THERE'S 153 ACRES TOTAL SOUTH OF ALL OF THIS, SOUTH AND WEST. THAT IS OWNED BY THAT COMPANY RIGHT NOW. AND WE HAVE A WE ALSO HAVE A COMMUNICATION CHANNEL THAT WE USE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UNFORTUNATELY, I'M THE HOA PRESIDENT OF SOUTH RIDGE. BUT IT'S IT'S THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS, IS THERE ARE THERE ARE FEARS THAT CHANGING THIS TO RETAIL, EVEN NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. IT IT IT GIVES WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL ANYMORE OVER WHAT EXISTS NOW. THE ONLY CONTROL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS WHAT IT'S ZONED AT RIGHT NOW. AND SO IF IT GOES TO RETAIL, THEN OBVIOUSLY LIGHT POLLUTION, NOISE POLLUTION, TRAFFIC POLLUTION, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO POTENTIALLY DEAL WITH WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE PLAN IS IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTEND WITH WHICH A COULD, YOU KNOW, AFFECT THE MARKETABILITY OF, OF EXISTING LOTS THAT ARE FOR SALE HOMES THAT ARE FOR SALE EITHER THAT HAVE BEEN PURCHASED OR ARE PUT ON THE MARKET BY EXISTING OWNERS AND THAT KIND OF THING. ADDITIONALLY, AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THIS BECAUSE I DON'T OWN THE LAND, BUT THERE'S 150 MORE ACRES OR 140 MORE ACRES ROUGHLY SOUTH OF THIS WHERE THIS COULD GO AND, AND HOPEFULLY BE JUST AS EFFECTIVE FOR THE CURRENT OWNER. SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. ANY QUESTIONS? JUST EAST OF THIS. ISN'T THERE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL RIGHT THERE? THERE IS. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT, BUT ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD, THERE ARE. THERE ARE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. YES. ALL THE COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW, FOR THE MOST PART, IS UP ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD 83 AND ALSO GOES UP DENALI TO THAT CORNER. YES. WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE? YEAH. OFFICE. IS IT WHAT IT IS? OFFICE. I THINK IT'S THE BLUES OR NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE. YEAH, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AGAIN. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT HOURS OF OPERATION. YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A TOWARDS THE, THE EAST SIDE, WE'VE GOT A TITLE COMPANY THERE, A FINANCE, NOT A FINANCE COMPANY, BUT A FINANCIAL RESOURCES COMPANY UP THERE WHO OBVIOUSLY ARE CLOSED ON THE WEEKENDS. IT'S NOT BEEN A PROBLEM. IN THE RETAIL IS WHAT THE CONCERN IS HERE. SO THE OFFICE PART DOESN'T BOTHER YOU? IT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. IT'S THE RETAIL. YEAH. THESE, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME SOME CONTEXT, THESE HOMES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE 600,000 TO $1 MILLION HOUSES. EVERYONE PAYS HOA DUES ANNUALLY. EVERYONE KEEPS THEIR, THEIR PROPERTIES UP. AND AND THERE IS A FENCE THAT RUNS FROM WEST TO, TO EAST AS WELL. JUST A LITTLE PRIVACY FENCE KIND OF DEAL. THE PART THAT'S ZONED MULTIFAMILY, IF THEY WERE TO PUT IN A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE, WOULD POTENTIALLY CREATE THE SAME CONCERNS YOU WOULD HAVE ABOUT NO DOUBT. SO THERE'S ALREADY SOME ISSUES RELATED PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE TO SOME OF THE ZONING THAT'S ALREADY CURRENTLY SITTING THERE. SURE I UNDERSTAND. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? CLAYTON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP? YEAH. YOU HIT ON ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP. WAS THAT THE THE EXISTING BROWN HATCH THERE, I BELIEVE IS MULTIFAMILY ALREADY? WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, I BELIEVE IS A IS A LESSER USE. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS. JASON, I TOTALLY KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. ALSO, ALL OF THE ALL THE LOTS THAT FRONT MEMORIAL ARE TODAY ARE GENERAL RETAIL TODAY. IS THAT NOT RIGHT? SO THERE'S GENERAL RETAIL THAT WOULD BE ABUTTING. WHAT IS PROPOSED IS GENERAL RETAIL. AND WITH THE ANTICIPATION OF KNOWING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE CONCERN OF FROM THE [01:15:02] NEIGHBORHOOD AND A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THAT. I KNOW THE DEVELOPER IS SENSITIVE TO THAT AND WANTS TO HAVE USES THAT ARE THAT ARE PLAY NICELY WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. I CAN'T SHARE WHAT THE USES ARE, BUT I, I WOULD GO OUT ON A LIMB AND SAY, I THINK IT WOULD BE A NICE FIT. SO Y'ALL ARE Y'ALL ARE REQUESTING THE PART THAT'S IN THE YELLOW BORDER? CORRECT. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE. YEAH. THIS THAT BORDER IS NOT ACCURATE. YEAH, I GOT CONFUSED. THAT'S ACCURATE. SO EVERYTHING WEST OF THOSE TWO PINK AND RED BOXES BETWEEN THEIR MEMORIAL IS GENERAL RETAIL. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND EVEN FURTHER SOUTH OF MCKINLEY IS GENERAL RETAIL OF SOUTH OF MCKINLEY AS WELL. I'LL WE'RE ASKING FOR THOSE TWO RED AND PINK BOXES AND PUTTING PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL AT THE BACK TO TRY TO BUFFER SOME WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S ACCURATE. YES, SIR. I'M JUST GOING TO BE BETTER THAN THE MULTIFAMILY. FAMILY POTENTIALLY. YEAH. I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT I MEAN. IF I LIVED THERE, THAT THAT WOULD END. AND I BELIEVE IF I'M, I DON'T HAVE THE MAP, BUT I THINK IN FRONT OF CLARK, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT FRONT AND CLARK. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP THAT WE WERE JUST ON WITH THE PINK AND RED OR PINK AND RED? THE THE FRONTAGE WHERE IT'S EMPTY RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S WHERE TAPIOCA IS. AND THERE'S SEVERAL BUILDINGS ALONG THE FRONT EDGE OF CLARK RIGHT NOW, THE NORTH SIDE WHERE H H IS, I BELIEVE THAT'S ALSO NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. WE DID A WHOLE STRIP BUFFERING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AS MUCH NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL AS WE COULD. AND THAT WAS THE INTENT WITH THIS REZONING AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER? SEE, NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS. OUR MOTION. I. I UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY OWNERS CONCERNS. I WOULD PROBABLY TEND TO AGREE WITH CLAYTON THAT IN SOME WAYS, THIS ALMOST FEELS LIKE A DOWN ZONING WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL THAN WHAT COULD GO IN IN MULTIFAMILY OR PATIO HOME ABUTTING LARGE LOTS. AND SO THE DEVELOPERS, HONESTLY, BECAUSE OF WHAT HE'S WHAT I'VE SEEN HIM DEVELOP IN THE PAST, IS, IS SENSITIVE TO THIS KEEPING ITS VALUE. YEAH. BUT SIMILAR TO THE OTHER ONE, LIKE MY FEAR ALWAYS WITH ZONING IS I MIGHT TRUST THIS DEVELOPER, BUT NOT THE PERSON WHO GETS THE LOT NEXT. SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE ENSURING AND MAKING SURE GOOD DECISIONS RELATED TO IT? I WOULD I WOULD GENERALLY BE IN FAVOR OF THIS THIS CHANGE. I YOU WENT TO SHELTER. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. FIRST WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE. AND THERE WERE NO CONDITIONS. MR. BARNETT? YES. MR. HOUSE? YES, MISS. MR. HALLIBURTON? YES. MISS LEWIS? YES. MR. SEITZ? YES. AND MR. BENHAM. YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES. I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. WE ARE RECOMMENDING BOARD TO CITY COUNCIL. THERE WILL BE TWO HEARINGS RELATED TO THIS. IF WE WOULD HAVE DECIDED. EITHER WAY, BOTH. IT CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD IN ANY WAY. SO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN. THANK YOU TO THE PLANNING STAFF FOR MAKING ALL THIS HAPPEN, EVEN WITHOUT COMPUTERS OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO WAS PATIENT WITH THE LAST MEETING NEEDING TO BE CANCELED BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT ISSUE. WE APPRECIATE IT. AND WE GOT THROUGH IN GOOD TIME. 13 AGENDA ITEMS AND AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES. PRETTY GOOD. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU ALL. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.