[00:00:02] OKAY. IT'S 530. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE STREET MAINTENANCE ADVISORY APPEALS BOARD TO ORDER. [CALL TO ORDER] FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR NEWEST MEMBER, MR. JAMES BAILEY, DOWN HERE. THANK YOU. WELCOME. SHELLY, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? I SURE WILL. MR. BAILEY. MISS MARTINEZ, MR. HURT HERE. MR. ISBELL HERE. MR. POLARIS HERE. MR. TODD HERE. OKAY. OUR FIRST ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. THERE WILL BE NO VOTES OR ANY FORMAL ACTIONS TAKEN [PUBLIC COMMENTS] ON SUBJECTS THAT ARE DISCUSSED DURING THIS PERIOD. AND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE ONLY FOR MEMBERS TO PRESENT IDEAS AND INFORMATION TO CITY OFFICIALS AND CITY STAFF. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES UNLESS YOU RECOGNIZE TO SPEAK LONGER. AND SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM. EXCUSE ME. MY NAME IS MONTY CONRAD. I'M THE VOICE FOR CINDY AND WILLIAM JONES. THEY LIVE AT 742 NORTH 21ST STREET. WHO HAS ASPHALT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE? WELL, THESE ARE THE ONLY FOLKS I KNOW IN ABILENE THAT DON'T HAVE ASPHALT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS IS WE'VE HAD TEXAS NEWS COME OUT AND DO A STORY. THEY WERE THERE ON DECEMBER 6TH OF 24, AND THEY DID A STORY ON THE ON THE STREET NOT BEING PAVED. AND THEN ON THE THE THE ISSUE IS, IS IT'S A ROCK ROAD. AND THE THERE'S FIVE HOMES ON THE STREET AND FOUR OF THEM BELONG TO HANDICAPPED FOLKS. ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE I THINK THE SECRETARY HERE AT THE AT THE STREET DEPARTMENT, HER MOM LIVES ON THAT STREET. AND YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN ANYTHING, BUT I DO HAVE SOME PICTURES OF THE ROAD THAT I TOOK TODAY, IF Y'ALL WISH TO SEE THEM. I DIDN'T MAKE COPIES OF ALL OF THEM. MR. CONRAD, WHAT ARE THE LIMITS OF WHAT STREETS ON EITHER END OF THIS SECTION AT NORTH 21ST? THIS IS BETWEEN HARDY AND TREADWAY. OKAY IT'S JUST A LITTLE SHORT BLOCK. IT'S ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK. I'D LIKE TO BRING ONE OTHER. ONE OTHER. THE THE THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPHS I SHOWED YOU ARE THE ONES WHERE THE THE THE ROAD WAS GRADED THREE WEEKS AGO. FLATTENED COMPLETELY OUT. MORE MATERIAL BROUGHT IN AND PUT DOWN. THAT'S FROM THREE WEEKS AGO. WHAT HAPPENS IS THIS ROAD CATCHES ALL OF THE RUNOFF FROM HENDRIX HOSPITAL. ALL HENDRIX HOSPITALS RUNOFF COMES RIGHT DOWN 20 SOUTH, NORTH 21ST HITS. HARDEE GOES AROUND THE CORNER AND RUNS RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THAT STREET. IT STARTS EATING OUT AT THAT PICTURE. THAT'S THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE. THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF IT. WHEN YOU GOT IT, WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO IN AND ADD MORE MATERIAL. THE, THE, THE LAST PICTURE I SHOWED YOU, THE ONE OF THE BARRICADES THAT'S NORTH 21ST STREET, THAT'S WHERE THE WATER IS SUPPOSED TO GO, BUT THAT ROAD THERE IS IS CLOSED OFF AND NO MAINTENANCE IS DONE ON IT EVER. SO THE WATER COMES DOWN, THE ROAD, HITS NORTH, NORTH 20TH, GOES OVER THE NORTH 21ST AND WASHES OUT NORTH 21ST. THE RESIDENTS AREN'T REQUESTING SIDEWALKS OR CURBS OR ANYTHING. ALL THEY'RE REQUESTING IS SOME BLACKTOP BE PUT DOWN ON THE ROAD. THAT'S IT. I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN AT LEAST DO THAT FOR THEM. YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY Y'ALL ARE. OH. CURRENTLY WE GIVE YOU A FEW MORE MINUTES. OKAY. CURRENTLY, WE'RE REPAVING THE THE OVERFLOW PARKING LOT AT THE COLISEUM. THAT'S BEEN A GRAVEL A GRAVEL PARKING FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. AND THE ONLY TIME THAT'S USED IS MAYBE TWO TIMES A YEAR. BUT WE THE COUNTY WENT AHEAD AND PAVED IT ALL, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THAT'S ANOTHER LITTLE SLAP IN THE FACE THERE. OTHER THAN NOT HAVING ANY PAVEMENT THERE, THEY'RE OUT THERE REPAVING THE WHOLE THE WHOLE COLISEUM RIGHT NOW. [00:05:03] PARKING LOTS. BUT WE CAN'T PUT ANY PAVEMENT DOWN ON NORTH 21ST STREET. SO IF Y'ALL COULD SEE FIT TO TO JUST TAKE A LOOK AT IT. YOU KNOW, I RAN SOME SIMPLE NUMBERS ON IT. I'M MORE OF A NUMBERS GUY. I GOTTA LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. THIS IS SOME OF THE HUMOR INVOLVED IN IT. WHEN I FIRST CALLED UP THERE IN IN NOVEMBER OF 24 AT THE OFFICE, THE GUY SAID THE GUY SAID, WELL, THAT'S THE DEVELOPER'S PROBLEM. I SAID, SIR, THAT THAT ROAD WAS THE THE FIRST KNOWN FACTOR. THAT ROAD WAS PUT DOWN IN 1940. I'M SURE THE DEVELOPERS LONG AND LONG GONE FROM. FROM HOW SO? I JUST RAN SOME SIMPLE NUMBERS FROM 1940 TO 1980. BUT 40 YEARS. I FIGURED Y'ALL DID IT TWO TIMES A YEAR. I'M BEING VERY LENIENT ON THIS. ONE DUMP TRUCK, ONE FRONT FRONT END LOADER, ONE GRATER, ONE SUPERVISOR, AND TWO SHOVEL JOCKEYS. $400 A TRIP. SO FOR 40, 40 YEARS, TIMES TWO, THAT'S 32,000. SO AT THE END, THE RENT FROM 80 TO 25. I BUMPED IT UP TO $1,000 A TRIP. NOW WE'RE GOING OUT THERE. WE GO OUT THERE A LOT MORE TIMES. SO I FIGURE FIVE TIMES A YEAR FOR THE NEXT 45 YEARS, WE SPENT $225,000 ON IT. AND THAT'S BEING VERY LENIENT. YOU KNOW, HERE WE, YOU KNOW, THE THE TOTAL IS 257. I FIGURE THE COST OF JUST PUTTING YOU ALREADY HAVE THE BASE DOWN. THE BASE IS ALREADY THERE AT 40, YOU KNOW, 85 YEARS OF BASE IS DOWN ON THIS GROUND. YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN JUST PUT SOME ASPHALT DOWN, I FIGURE IT COSTS 30 GRAND TO GRAND ASPHALT. SO THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT IT. I HOPE Y'ALL CAN SEE FIT SQUEAK IT IN SOMEWHERE. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE ARE HANDICAPPED, SO. AND IF YOU DO, JUST LOOK UP, I THINK THE I THINK IT RAN ON KAY. TEXAS ON DECEMBER THE 9TH OF 24 IS WHEN IT RAN. AND YOU CAN ARCHIVE THAT AND LOOK AT, LOOK AT THEIR REPORT. IT WAS A GOOD REPORT. SO LET'S ALL SHARE. THANK YOU OKAY. THANK YOU I DID I DID LOOK AT THAT STREET LAST WEEK OKAY OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS MY NAME IS JOSH ENSOR. I LIVE AT 1849 WALDROP DRIVE. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WALDROP, DRIVE, IF YOU'RE GOING SOUTH OUT 83, 84 AND GET ON THE ACCESS ROAD, THEY'VE BUILT A GREAT BIG NEW U-HAUL. AND THEN THERE'S A VET CLINIC, AND IT'S THE LITTLE COUNTRY ROAD RIGHT BY THE VET CLINIC. AND IT GOES TOWARDS RILEY SCHOOL AND HARDWICK INTERSECTS HARDWICK. IT'S IT'S PROBABLY A MILE LONG. AND SO MY WIFE AND I MOVED OUT THERE COMING UP ON 25 YEARS. IT WAS A LITTLE PEACEFUL COUNTRY ROAD BACK THEN. WE USED TO WALK AND EXERCISE AND RIDE BIKES AND THE DYNAMIC HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. AND SO TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, MY THE US POSTAL SERVICE HAS GIVEN ME A WAIVER ON HAVING A MAILBOX, EVEN THOUGH MY HOUSE IS A QUARTER OF A MILE OFF THE ROAD BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T LAST TWO WEEKS TO TWO MONTHS, SOMEBODY WOULD WIPE IT OUT. AND SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS JUST TO WIDEN IT A LITTLE BIT. I STEPPED IT OFF, AND IT'S EITHER 18FT ACROSS IN SOME PARTS, 20FT IN SOME PARTS. AND SO YOU LITERALLY THE SCHOOL BUSSES COME EVERY DAY, MULTIPLE SCHOOL BUSSES, YOU HAVE TO PULL OFF IN THE DITCH TO LET A TRUCK, A DELIVERY TRUCK. AND IT'S BECOME A MAJOR, MAJOR THOROUGHFARE BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL NEW DEVELOPMENTS NOW PAST HARDWICK, THAT IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S GOT CURBS, IT'S WIDE, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. SO I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN HARDWICK AND 83. 84 ACCESS ROAD. ANOTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENING. AND I BEG THESE PEOPLE, DON'T WALK. DON'T RIDE YOUR BIKES ON WALDROP, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET NAILED. IT'S EAST AND WEST STREET, SO SOME OF THE TIMES OF THE YEAR, THE SUNRISE BLINDS YOU GOING THIS WAY AND THE SUNSET BLINDS YOU GOING THE OTHER WAY. BUT THERE'S SO LIMITED PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO EXERCISE AND WALK. I JUST I JUST HAVE THIS FEAR. I'M NOT ANGRY. I'M NOT MAD. I JUST I WANT TO SELFISHLY CLEAR MY CONSCIENCE. BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY GETS KILLED ON WALDROP DRIVE UP BY A CAR AND THEY WERE JOGGING, WALKING, AND I KNEW IT WAS DANGEROUS AND I DIDN'T MAKE THE RIGHT PEOPLE AWARE OF IT. THEN I THINK I WOULD JUST BEAT MYSELF UP OVER IT. SO MY CONSCIENCE IS NOW CLEAR. Y'ALL DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. [00:10:01] WHY DIDN'T IT? DON'T WIN IT. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'LL DO, BECAUSE THIS LOOKS LIKE A LOW PAYING, HORRIBLE JOB TO ME THAT YOU'RE DOING. AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. JOSH. MY NAME IS JAMES HANKS, AND I LIVE AT 2301 WALDROP DRIVE. I'M NOT GOING TO BE AS NICE AS MY NEIGHBOR. THIS ROAD IS HORRIBLE. DOES ANYBODY GO TO WILEY? BECAUSE IF YOU EVER GO TO WILEY SCHOOLS, YOU'VE DROVE ON WALDRON. IT IS INSANE. I HAVE DAMAGE TO MY PERSONAL VEHICLES. I'VE BEEN RAN OFF THE ROAD ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. I'VE CONTACTED CODE COMPLIANCE BECAUSE THE TREES OVERHANG THE ROADWAY AND THEY HIT YOUR CAR WHEN YOU PASS JUST A STANDARD VEHICLE. THEY TOLD ME THAT CODE COMPLIANCE DOESN'T REACH OUT THAT FAR. IT'S ACTUALLY SOME STEAMBOAT WATERWAY COMPLIANCE CENTER THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN OFFICE. SO BASICALLY YOU CAN'T CALL THEM. SO I CALLED TAYLOR ELECTRIC BECAUSE THEY OWN THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE. TAYLOR ELECTRIC DIDN'T SEND ANYBODY OUT THERE, SO I PERSONALLY FUNDED THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES AND CUT BACK ALL THE TREES OFF OF WALDROP MYSELF, EVEN THOUGH THEY BELONGED TO SOMEBODY ELSE, SO THAT I COULD DRIVE TO MY HOUSE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MAJOR ROADWAY FOR TRAFFIC DURING WILEY'S SCHOOL DISTRICT TIMES. MR. ANSWER EMAILED THE CITY MANAGER, AND I STOLE HIS EMAIL BECAUSE IT SAYS SOMETHING IN HERE. IT SAYS CITY STAFF AND STREET MAINTENANCE ADVISORY AND APPEAL BOARD HAVE REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED THE CONDITION AND STATUS OF WALDROP DRIVE IN THE PAST. DUE TO THE NATURE AND AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THIS ROADWAY. IT DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE TOP OF THE LIST FOR SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT OR WIDENING. IF YOU GO PUT A TALLY OUT THERE AND YOU COUNT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE DURING A SCHOOL YEAR, IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN DURING THE SUMMER AND IN HOLIDAY TIMES. IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF IT. BUT IT'S A DANGER TO MY TO MY FAMILY. IT'S A DANGER TO MY KIDS. IT'S A DANGER TO MYSELF, AND IT'S A DANGER TO THE STAFF MEMBERS THAT COME TO MY HOUSE TO GET, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH TO GET CHECKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE GET NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS REPORTS FROM PEOPLE SAYING LIKE, DUDE, HOW DO YOU DRIVE DOWN THIS ROAD? IT NEEDS TO BE WIDENED AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED CORRECTLY. THEY COME OUT THERE AND THEY POUR SOME ASPHALT DOWN THERE ON THE EDGES, AND IT BREAKS AWAY IN 2 OR 3 DAYS. I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, LITERALLY JUST BREAKS AWAY AND GOES INTO THE DITCH. WHENEVER I BUILT MY SHOP BEHIND MY HOUSE, I HAD TO PULL A SECOND PERMIT FOR A YEAR. IN DOING THAT, I HAD TO DO A REPLANT OF MY PROPERTY WHEN I REPLANTED MY PROPERTY, I HAD TO GIVE THE CITY OF ABILENE EIGHT FEET ON THE FRONT SECTION OF MY PROPERTY LINE FOR A FUTURE WIDENING OF THE ROAD. SO I Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY GOT MY LAND. HE OWNS THE REST OF WALDROP LIKE WE WILL BE. I MEAN, LET. WE NEED A BETTER ROAD. WE NEED A BETTER ROAD. THE KIDS NEED A BETTER ROAD. GOD FORBID. A BUS AND A CAR. GETTING TO A HEAD ON COLLISION, GOING 45, 50 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THAT LITTLE, LITTLE ROAD AND KILL A BUNCH OF PEOPLE. SO I'M HERE FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT HE IS. IT'S DANGEROUS. GUYS, IT IS DANGEROUS. I YOU KNOW, I THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT I'VE, I'VE GOT. I JUST IT REALLY IS. YEAH. NO, WE SURPRISED EACH OTHER OUT HERE IN THE PARK. I MEAN, IT IS A BAD ROAD, GUYS. OKAY. AND IT'S A DANGER. IT'S A DANGER TO A BUNCH OF KIDS. THANK YOU, MR. HANKS. SORRY. I SAID THANK YOU. OH, YOU'RE. TAMI FOGEL, RESIDENT OF ABILENE. I TRIED TO EMAIL ALL OF YOU, AND AMAZINGLY, ALL OF THEM BOUNCED BACK TO ME, SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET AHOLD OF YOU ALL. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT HANDY LINK IS OR WHERE IT IS ON THE WEBSITE, BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ADDING ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO GIVE CITIZENS A CHANCE TO TALK AFTER SOME DISCUSSION HAS BEEN HAD. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO COME AND SAY THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S IT'S HARD NAVIGATING THROUGH A MEETING. YOU NEVER KNOW WHO'S GOING TO SHOW UP. BUT I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I JUST WANTED TO LIKE I SAID, I TRIED TO EMAIL YOU ALL AND I'M NOT SURE HOW TO DO THAT. SO A NICE QUICK LINK ON THE WEBSITE OR SOMETHING SO THAT IF PEOPLE WANT CAN'T COME TO THE MEETING, THEY CAN EMAIL YOU GUYS. I KNOW LAST TIME WE MET THEY WEREN'T ALL SET UP, SO I HOPE THEY'VE BEEN SET UP SINCE THEN. AND AND IT'S A GOOD WAY TO HELP COMMUNICATE. REQUEST FOR WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THE STREETS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AMY. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE. OH. EXCUSE ME. MY NAME IS LAURA YOUNG. I LIVE AT 2141 SOUTH EIGHTH. I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A PUBLIC MEETING BEFORE, AND I. I DON'T HAVE PICTURES. I DON'T HAVE ROADWAYS TO SPEAK ABOUT IN PARTICULAR. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LACK OF STRAPPING ON OUR ROADS I HAVE AT OUR CHURCH. [00:15:05] WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT WHEN WE HAVE MEETINGS, A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE, AND NOT EVEN ELDERLY. JUST A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAIN THERE ARE NO STRAPS ON OUR ROADS. YOU CAN'T TELL WHERE ONE LANE IS. LIKE FROM SALES FROM FIRST TO SOUTHWEST DRIVE, THERE'S NOT A STRAP ANYWHERE. IT'S JUST LIKE ONE BIG LANE ON ONE SIDE OF THE BOULEVARD AND ONE BIG LANE ON THE OTHER. AND A LOT OF OUR STREETS ARE THAT WAY. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR STREET STRAPPED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT, BUT IT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. THANK YOU. HEY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING, AND WE'LL NOW GO TO THE MINUTES. [MINUTES] I THINK YOU'VE GOT THOSE ALL POSTED IN YOUR PACKET THERE. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR SUBTRACTIONS TO THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE? MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES. OKAY. BRANSON HAS MADE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. TONY HAS MADE A SECOND. SHELLY. MR. BAILEY. MISS MARTINEZ, MR.. HURT. YES, MR. ISBELL. YES, MR.. POLARIS. MR.. TODD. YES. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM IS A PROGRAM UPDATE. [2. Program Update: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion on 2025 Street Projects Street Maintenance Program.] MAX IS GOING TO HANDLE THAT, AND IT'S FROM THE PROJECTS THAT WE PICKED ABOUT THIS TIME OF YEAR AGO, SEPTEMBER 5TH OF LAST YEAR. IT'S BEEN ALMOST A YEAR SINCE WE'VE MET A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THAT. WE'LL GO KIND OF GO OVER A LITTLE LATER, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE A UPDATE AS TO THE WHERE WE. OH, DIDN'T SHOW UP IN THERE. SO LET ME JUST TALK THROUGH THE THE PROGRAM FROM FOR 2025. SO WE HAVE FIVE PROJECTS THAT WE APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL LAST YEAR. THREE OF THE FIVE OF THOSE ARE ONGOING OR ABOUT TO BE ONGOING. AND TWO OF THEM HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THE CYBER INCIDENT THAT WE HAD WITHIN THE CITY. SO REBECCA LANE, IF ANYBODY'S DRIVEN OUT SOUTH OF TOWN THAT ONE IS ONGOING. WE'VE GOT ABOUT THREE MONTHS LEFT OF THAT. ONE CONTRACTOR HAS THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE ROAD EATEN UP RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE PUTTING GEO GRID AND BASE COURSE INTO THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD. SHOULD BE PAVING SHORTLY. THEN WE'LL SWITCH TRAFFIC OVER TO THE NEW PAVEMENT AND DO THE REST OF THE ROAD LOOKING MID MID NOVEMBER AT THE LATEST TO BE COMPLETED WITH THAT PROJECT. WORK ZONE S7. THIS IS LITTLE ESTATES KIND OF ON THE MIDDLE PART OF TOWN. THEY, THE CONTRACTOR IS CURRENTLY WORKING THE CONCRETE PORTION OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDES THE VALLEY GUTTERS, SOME COVERAGE THAT WAS THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE CEMENT STABILIZING THE BASE COURSE OF THAT OF THOSE ROADS. THAT SHOULD START LATE SEPTEMBER AND WILL BE A GREAT PROJECT ONCE IT'S COMPLETE. AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN. THAT HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED IN IN MANY, MANY YEARS. THAT'S S7 SOUTH 14TH STREET. THIS IS BETWEEN WILLIS AND SALES. IS A PROJECT THAT WE JUST BID THIS WEEK. IT WILL BE GOING TO COUNCIL ON THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. FOR. AND ONCE THAT, THEN WE WILL AWARD THE CONTRACT, GET THE CONTRACTOR OUT AND GET STARTED ON SOUTH 14TH. THE LAST TWO ARE. OH, WE HAVE IT UP. SNB NUMBER FOUR UP THERE. THIS IS A FOLLOW ON TO S10 A, WHICH IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND ROSE PARK. IT'S THE SECOND PHASE OF THE THIS AREA WITH THE CYBER ATTACK. OUR WATER UTILITIES FOLKS LOST A LOT OF THE PLANS THAT THEY HAD. SO THEY ARE CURRENTLY MAKING THE DESIGNS FOR THE UTILITIES UNDER THE ROADS. ONCE THEY GET COMPLETE WITH THEIR PROJECT, THEN WE WILL COME IN AND DO OUR PROJECT LOOKING PROBABLY SOMETIME NEXT YEAR. TO DO THAT, IT'S BEEN DELAYED, DELAYED A YEAR. AND THEN THE LAST ONE ON THERE, THE FIFTH ONE IS THE CONTINGENCY PROJECT THAT WE ADDED ON IN CASE WE WERE MAGICAL, AND WE CAME IN ALL UNDER BUDGET AND HAD EXTRA MONEY. THAT ONE AGAIN IS GOING TO BE POSTPONED DUE TO THE CYBERATTACK. WE'RE STILL IN THE DESIGN PHASES OF THAT ONE, SO WE LOST A LOT OF INFORMATION WITH THAT. [00:20:05] SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM OR ANYTHING I CAN ANSWER? OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MAX. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT? MOTION. OKAY. JENNIFER MADE A MOTION TO. I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. BROCK IS SECOND. MR. BAILEY. MISS MARTINEZ? YES. MR. HURT? YES. MR. ISBELL? YES. MR. POLARIS. YES. MR. TODD. YES. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM IS. THE FUN PART OF THIS JOB IS THE 2026 PROJECTS. [3. 2026 Street Projects: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Take Action on 2026 proposed Street Projects for Street Maintenance Program.] JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE HAVE RIGHT AT $110 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS ON OUR LIST RIGHT HERE, AND WE'VE GOT $7 MILLION TO SPEND. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS JOB FUN. YOU KNOW, 10 MILLION LAST TIME, DID WE? WELL, WE HAD MORE THAN. WE HAD MORE THAN SEVEN. WE HAD MORE THAN SEVEN. SO YEAH. AND WE WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS PART OF THE AGENDA. AND, MAX, ARE YOU GOING TO. YEAH, I'LL DRIVE A LITTLE BIT, SIR. THIS FIRST SLIDE JUST SHOWS SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS THAT WE'LL GET INTO ON THE LIST THAT WE HAVE THAT WILL WE'LL BE SHOWING IN A MINUTE. FULL DEPTH REHABILITATION. THIS IS A ROADWAY, OLD ROADWAY. WE DON'T KNOW. OR THE CONDITIONS OF THE SUBGRADE WE KNOW HAVE FAILED. SO THIS IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION WHERE WE HAVE TO GO DOWN SIX, EIGHT, 12IN AND REPLACE ALL THE BASE BEFORE WE PUT THE ROAD BACK ON. NUMBER TWO, THERE'S A PARTIAL DEPTH. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS. WE TAKE THE TOP ASPHALT OFF, AND WE DO SPOT REPAIRS WHERE THERE'S SOME SOFT SPOTS IN THE IN THE SUBBASE. AND THEN WE PUT THE THE ASPHALT BACK ON TOP. THAT'S THE MID-RANGE COST OF THE PROJECTS. AND THEN THE THIRD ONE THERE IS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. THIS ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT ROADS THAT ARE FIVE TO 8 TO 10 YEARS OLD AND DO SOME SEAL COATS OR SOME MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUES THAT WE CAN EXTEND A ROAD FROM A FIFTH NEEDED TO REPLACE IT AT 15 YEARS TO NEEDING TO REPLACE IT MAYBE 20 OR 25 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. DOING PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE IS LIKE CHANGING THE OIL IN YOUR CAR. THE MORE YOU DO IT, THE LESS YOU HAVE TO PAY. WHEN THE WHEN THE CAR BREAKS DOWN. SO WE HAVE WE HAVE ADDED A SECTION THIS YEAR THAT DOES SOME OF THOSE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE THERE PROJECTS THAT ARE A LITTLE LESS COSTLY. THAT WE MAY YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER ADDING A COUPLE OF THOSE INTO THE PROGRAM FOR THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE FOR THE FUTURE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE DEFINITIONS? THIS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE LIST IS GOING TO GROW EVERY YEAR. THIS IS WHAT I LIKE TO CALL WHEN YOU WHEN YOU PAINT YOUR HOUSE. YOU CAN PAINT IT WITHOUT DOING MUCH PREP WORK. AND THAT'S WHAT I CALL PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. BUT WHAT THAT DOES IS HOPEFULLY PREVENT THESE STREETS GETTING INTO THE FIRST OR SECOND CATEGORY. AND SO THERE ARE, IN FACT, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME STREETS THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS APPROVED GETTING PAVED. THEY'LL START SHOWING UP ON THIS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE LIST IN THE IN THE FUTURE. BUT THAT LIST IS GOING TO GROW EVERY YEAR. YES, SIR. SO THIS THIS LIST THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS WHAT WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN LAST YEAR. THE FULL DEPTH REHABILITATION HAS A FEW MORE ON IT BECAUSE THOSE THAT WERE IN THE PARTIAL BECAUSE WE DID NOT GO AFTER THOSE STREETS. THEY'VE NOW GONE TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND NEED THE FULL DEPTH IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AT THIS POINT. SO I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN GO THROUGH. THE SLIDES THAT WE HAVE THIS SLIDE SHOWS KIND OF ON A MAP. ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE PREVIOUS SPREADSHEET, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF BREAK IT DOWN. THIS IS THE FULL DEPTH REHABILITATION. THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS THE MORE COSTLY GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE SUB BASE. AND KIND OF LISTED UP THERE ARE THE DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS AND THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE. WE'VE ALSO PUT THE YEARS THAT THAT THESE PROJECTS WERE INTRODUCED TO THE STREET MAINTENANCE BOARD. [00:25:08] IN A COLUMN FOR YOUR REFERENCE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? YEAH, I DO, I DO HAVE ONE. YES, SIR. THE SO WITH THE, WITH THE FULL DEPTH PARTIAL PREVENTATIVE LISTING THERE. ARE THESE IN ANY SPECIFIC RANK ORDER? THEY ARE NOT. SO OF ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, THEY ARE JUST LISTED. THERE IS NO PRIORITY RECOMMENDATION FROM CITY STAFF. TO YOU GUYS, THE LINEAR STREETS IT WAS IS THE OTHER LIST THERE. THAT ONE IS PRIORITIZED FROM 1 TO 20. AND THAT IS JUST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. AND TAKE THAT. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, JAMES WILL MOSTLY STRESS THOSE FIRST THREE AREAS ARE WHAT YOU WOULD CALL RESIDENTIAL STREETS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THESE LINEAR STREETS ARE MORE THE COLLECTOR AND ARTERIAL STREETS THAT GET PEOPLE AROUND TOWN. SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. SORT OF DEDUCED THAT. AND IS IT ALSO SUFFICE TO SAY THAT THE LINEAR PROJECTS WOULD INCLUDE WHITE WHITENING EFFORTS, SIDEWALK EFFORTS, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WHERE YOU WOULDN'T NORMALLY DO THAT TO A FULL DEPTH REHAB PARCEL OR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE WHERE IT'S ALREADY EXISTING. SO YEAH, YOU WOULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T NORMALLY DO THAT TYPE OF WORK IN THOSE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT IF I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN TO SOME OF THEM, THEY'RE PRETTY BAD. OKAY. AND THEN FINAL COMMENT ON THIS. THE THREE CATEGORIES OF LISTINGS HERE I APOLOGIZE BEING THE NEW GUY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. BEARINGS HERE THOUGH. IS THERE ANY ANALYSIS TO WHAT THE CYCLE IS FROM WHEN SOMETHING IF YOU DO A FULL DEPTH REHABILITATION. WHEN WHEN IS IT LIKELY TO. WE'LL SEE THIS AGAIN CREEPING UP TO BE A PREVENTATIVE OR PARTIAL OR WHAT'S THE LIFE EXPECTANCY ON ON THE HOW MANY HAVE MICHAEL MILLER, OUR ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN. COME UP AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT. GOOD EVENING. SO A FULL DEPTH REHABILITATION WILL TYPICALLY LAST BETWEEN 15 AND 25 YEARS WITH PROPER MAINTENANCE. TYPICALLY WHENEVER YOU DO A FULL DEPTH, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT YOUR PCI ON A STREET TO BE FAIRLY LOW, BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY SHOWN THAT THE STREET HAS FAILED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SUBGRADE. WE TAKE THOSE NUMBERS VIA THE VIA THE PCI THAT WERE DRIVEN BACK IN 2022, I BELIEVE 21, AS WELL AS ACTUAL FIELD OBSERVATIONS FROM CITY STAFF. FOR REHABILITATIONS, YOU WANT THAT NUMBER TO BE MORE OF A MID RANGE BETWEEN MAYBE 45 TO 60. AT THAT POINT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME FAILURES, BUT IT'S EASY ENOUGH TO FIX SPOT REPAIRS AND THEN JUST OVERLAY THE PROJECT TO KIND OF FURTHER YOUR DOLLAR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. YOU USUALLY WANT IT TO BE IN THE 10 TO 15, MAYBE 20%, DOWN FROM THE FULL 100 PCI, BECAUSE A SEAL COAT OR EMULSION WILL ACTUALLY BUMP YOUR PCI BY ABOUT TEN TO 10 TO 15 POINTS. YEAH. AND AND THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, THE PCI, WHERE THE TWO TIMES IN 2018 WE DID A STUDY WHERE WE KIND OF LOOKED AT ALL THE STREETS IN, IN ABILENE, AND THEN WE FOLLOWED THAT UP IN SORRY. IT WAS EARLIER IN THAT, WASN'T IT? THE FIRST ONE? 17, I BELIEVE. AND THEN AND THEN 20. 21. YEAH. 21. SO WE WERE ABLE TO COMPARE THOSE TWO NUMBERS TO SEE THE PIECES DROPPING, WHICH THAT'S, THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THOSE PIECES LEVEL AT BEST AND TRY TO IMPROVE INTO THE FUTURE THROUGH OUR PROGRAM. YES. THANK YOU SIR. JAMES, LIKE IF YOU DID ONE OF THESE FULL DEATH REHABILITATION PROJECTS SOMEWHERE IN THAT 5 TO 10 YEAR PERIOD, AFTER THAT THING IS COMPLETED, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW ALL THAT WORKS. SO KIND OF THE RULE. FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE CITY OF ABILENE USED TO DO THIS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT WAS STOPPED YEARS AGO. AND YOU CAN SEE THE THE OUTCOME OF WHAT'S HAPPENED BY STOPPING THAT PROGRAM. THANK YOU. OKAY. I GUESS AT THE TIME WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE 20, 20, [00:30:06] 26 PAVING PROJECTS. AND AS BEFORE YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. AND LIKE ANY INFORMATION TO BE NEW INFORMATION ABOUT THESE PROJECTS. SO ANYWAY, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC HEARING. JAMES HANKS I LIVE ON 2301 WALTER. HOW DO WE GET LIKE. SO THIS IS ALL NEW TO US. WE'RE SITTING OVER HERE, WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE LISTENING. WE UNDERSTAND. HOW DO WE GET ON THIS LIST? AND HOW DID COME BACK ON A ROAD THAT LITERALLY THE CITY OF ABILENE TELLS US WHEN WE CALL HIM, HE, HIS WIFE GOT A FLAT TIRE ON IT. I'VE GOT DAMAGE DOWN MY TRUCK FROM IT. WE CALL THE CITY OF ABILENE. THE CITY OF ABILENE SAYS, LOOK, THIS ROAD IS TOO FAR GONE. WE CAN GO BACK THERE AND PUT A LITTLE BIT OF ASPHALT AROUND THE EDGES. BUT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO. WE CAN'T. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THIS ADVISORY BOARD. AND WE'RE SITTING OVER HERE LOOKING AT A LIST OF THAT WE'RE NOT ON. YEAH, WE IF AT THIS POINT WE CAN ADVISE THE STAFF TO, TO LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE JUST CAN'T ARBITRARILY PICK THAT TO BE IN THESE PROJECTS. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. SO IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WHAT ACTIONS DO DO WE HAVE AS RESIDENTS ON THAT STREET TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AT LEAST MAKE THE 2027 STREET MAINTENANCE PLAN? WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF, WE DIRECT THE STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT. YOU CAN LOBBY YOUR CITY COUNCIL. SIT RIGHT BACK HERE. I UNDERSTAND I SEE YOU BACK THERE. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO GET THAT, YOU KNOW? AND AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU BECAME A DEVELOPER WHEN YOU REPLANTED YOUR PROPERTY, AS YOU FOUND OUT. OH, YEAH. I MEAN, IN ORDER TO PULL PERMITS IN THE CITY OF ABILENE, YOU PULL TWO PERMITS IN A CALENDAR YEAR, YOU HAVE TO DO A REPLANT. YEAH, WELL, I SPENT I SPENT 50 YEARS REPRESENTING PEOPLE DOING THAT, SO. YEAH, I MEAN AND SO, I MEAN, I DIDN'T HAVE I DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE. BUT. SO Y'ALL WILL REVIEW THIS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND IT ON THE WEBSITE. AND THEN IF WE DON'T MAKE THE 2020 SIXTH STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, WHAT WAYS DO WE GO ABOUT? WELL, THERE THERE ARE. IF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN THEY DID HARDWICK ROAD, THEY WIDENED THAT THAT YEARS AGO BECAUSE IT WAS BECOMING A HAZARD OF THE OF THE SAME THING. THE BUS TRUCK DIED. SCHOOL TRAFFIC DOWN THERE. THAT ROAD WAS WIDENED AND IN, IN THE SECTION, PAVEMENT SECTION WAS THICKENED JUST TO HANDLE ALL THAT TRAFFIC GOING DOWN THROUGH THERE. IF THAT IS A BUS ROUTE, WHICH I KNOW IT IS AND THERE IS SAFETY CONCERNS AND STAFF WILL LOOK AT THAT AND, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE PUT ON THESE PROJECTS. IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO PUT SOME MONEY ON THERE UNDER GENERAL. WHAT THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS THAT THEY DO EVERY YEAR. THEY CAN PUT THAT PROJECT UNDER THAT. SO THERE'S THERE'S VARIOUS WAYS THAT COULD BE DONE. SO PERSISTENCE. IS THAT WHAT I'M. YEAH. OH, YEAH. YEAH. THANK Y'ALL. STEP ONE IS DONE. WE CAME VERY MUCH. MARY MCMAHON, CROSSROADS DRIVE. I WANT TO SUPPORT THE BARROW PROJECT. I DRIVE BARROW A LOT, AND IT ACTUALLY COULD USE IT FROM SOUTH 27TH, AND WE KNOW ALL THE WAY ACROSS. BUT TAKING IT FROM SOUTH 20TH TO SOUTH 11TH, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO TAKE IT TO SOUTH SEVENTH IF YOU CAN. IT'S ROSE PARK, THE SENIORS COMING IN AND OUT JUST BEFORE THAT INTERSECTION THAT IT'S IN THE CURVE. IT GETS EATEN UP ALL THE TIME. IT'S IT'S A VERY BUMPY, HAZARDOUS SECTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MARY. YES. AND SO THAT THAT ROAD IS BROKEN UP INTO THREE PHASES. THEY'RE ALL. THEY'RE ALL REPRESENTED IN THE IN THE LIST. SORRY. TAMMY FOGLE RESIDENT. SO I'VE BEEN A REGULAR ATTENDER OF THIS MEETING. AND I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO IMPROVE THE SYSTEM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I HEAR IS PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT WE'RE NOT FIXING STREETS FAST ENOUGH. AND I'VE BEEN TO THESE MEETINGS, AND I KNOW IT, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, $110 MILLION. I MEAN, HOW CAN ANYONE REALLY ACCOMPLISH A LOT WITH $7.5 MILLION? WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS IN PRESENTATION OR, YOU KNOW IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHICH IS PRIORITY BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT THE LINEAR STREETS. I WAS FEELING VERY PROUD OF MYSELF, JUST TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH AND SEE HOW TO SOLVE SOME OF THIS PROBLEM, BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS AT THE MEETING WHEN Y'ALL PICKED FAIRWAY AND I HEARD ALL THE GRUMBLINGS OF Y'ALL ARE PICKING FAIRWAY. YOU'RE JUST PICKING FAVORITES, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO GET THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN HERE OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT LIKE I NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, [00:35:05] ON THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ONE IT HAD THE LAST YEAR IT WAS PAVED OR DRESSED, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE ON THE OTHER TWO THAT WHEN THE LAST YEAR WAS BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BRING CLARITY TO WHICH ONE'S THE OLDER ONE, AND MAYBE SOME OF ARE IN WORSE SHAPE. BUT IT FEELS LIKE YOU ALL HAVE BEEN GIVEN A MISSION IMPOSSIBLE HERE TONIGHT. AND I DIDN'T LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE LINEAR, BUT IT'S LIKE, HOW DO YOU PICK LIKE, HOW DO YOU PICK THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO THAT NEED IT THE MOST? AND I FEEL LIKE THE NORTH SIDE IS GOT A LOT OF BAD STREETS ON IT. I MEAN, MY NEIGHBORHOOD DROVE OVER HERE TONIGHT. MINE'S NOT ON THE LIST EITHER, BUT IT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, SO WHERE DO WE DO? AND AND IF Y'ALL COULD EVEN COME UP WITH A RATIO SO THAT WE COULD UNDERSTAND THAT Y'ALL PICK. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST BY COST, BUT IT'S BY, LIKE, WE PICK SO MANY PREVENTATIVE AND SO MANY PROPOSED FULL DEPTH AND SO MANY PARTIAL DEPTH AND SO MANY LINEAR. YOU KNOW, THAT'S FOUR CATEGORIES. GOOD LUCK. AND I'M HERE ROOTING YOU ON IN THE CROWD. BUT MAN, I'M GLAD I'M NOT IN YOUR SEAT TONIGHT. BUT REALLY, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I FEEL LIKE Y'ALL HAVE A HIGH TECH. AND ALSO IT'S HELPFUL IF CITIZENS KNOW WHICH ONES ARE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED PROJECTS. I KNOW THIS YEAR THERE'S NO ONE HERE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE LAST YEAR WITH LITTLE ESTATES, SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ALREADY SOME DESIGN OR SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE KIND OF PUT TO THE TOP OF THE LIST. IT'S HARD FOR US AS CITIZENS TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, BUT I KNOW YOU ALL ARE TRYING YOUR BEST AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH TONIGHT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE'S ONE OTHER ISSUE THAT'S BESIDES WHAT I BROUGHT UP EARLY. I WAS WANTING TO KNOW WHAT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND IS. I MEAN, WE HAVE WE HAVE THE PEOPLE WORKING. I GUESS THEY'RE PUTTING THE FIBER OPTICS EVERYWHERE. AND WHAT IS THE CHAIN OF COMMAND ON WHO OVERSEES THOSE FOLKS ONCE THEY DO THE REPAIRS TO THE STREET? WE DO THAT ON. I LIVE ON SOUTH EIGHTH STREET. THEY DID MY STREET A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. CAME IN. CAME THROUGH THAT, THROUGH THAT AREA AND DID ALL THE STREETS AND STUFF. WELL, SINCE THEN THE FIBER OPTIC PEOPLE TOOK OVER AND HAVE CUT INTO THE STREET. THE PATCHES THAT THEY PUT ON THE STREETS ARE HORRIBLE. AND AND I AND I, YOU KNOW, YOU CALL DOWN THE CITY, YOU ASK SOMEBODY AND THEY, THEY, THEY PUSH YOU TO THE NEXT PERSON AND THEY PUSH YOU TO THE NEXT PERSON. THERE'S NO ONE THERE TO THERE'S NO ONE THERE THAT OVERSEES THAT PROJECT. FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE THAT ARE DOING THE PATCHES IN THE STREETS. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON WHAT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND IS ON THAT, WHO OVERSEES THOSE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS COMING IN AND CUTTING INTO OUR PUBLIC STREETS? AND DO THEY HAVE TO FALL UNDER ANY SET OF GUIDELINES OTHER THAN JUST SLAPPING SOME SOME ASPHALT DOWN AND GOING ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS? I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU AFTER. OR I CAN I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION NOW. WHICHEVER YOU DECIDE, SIR. I MEAN, BASICALLY, THEY'LL GO AHEAD AND IF YOU CAN GIVE HIM A QUICK ANSWER. OKAY. SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR FIBER OPTICS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS IS GUIDED BY THE PUC IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THEY HAVE A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO USE THE MUNICIPAL EASEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE PUTTING THEIR, THEIR FIBER IN SAFELY AND NOT INTERFERING WITH THE OTHER UTILITIES THAT ARE IN THE GROUND. THAT'S FINE AND DANDY, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ASPHALT HERE. THE THE ASPHALT LAYING OF THE ASPHALT AFTER THEY LEAVE. FROM DOING WHAT? I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT ON SALES IN SOUTH 20TH. WHAT KIND OF WORK THEY ACTUALLY DO. SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT UTILITY COMPANY. THAT'S ATMOS AND THAT'S GAS. AND THEY ALL OF THOSE UTILITY COMPANIES HAVE THE STANDARDS AND ARE REQUIRED TO REPAIR TO THE STANDARDS WHEN THEY FINISH THEIR PROJECTS. WHAT STANDARD IS THAT? IT'S THE ENGINEERING STANDARD THAT EVERY CONTRACTOR THAT THAT GETS A ROAD REPAIR PROJECT OR THAT DOES ANY REPAIRS ON THE STREETS, HE'S IN CHARGE OF THE HE'S IN CHARGE OF THEM. OUR ENGINEERING STANDARDS. I AM I'M THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, SO I'M I'M THE PERSON YOU CAN TALK TO IF YOU HAVE ISSUES AND LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF WORK THEY'RE DOING, WHO LOOKS AT THE WORK THEY'RE DOING OTHER THAN THEM STAMPING OFF ON IT. OUR ENGINEERING INSPECTORS DO. WE HAVE FIVE ENGINEERING INSPECTORS IN THE CITY THAT GO AROUND. I NEED TO POINT YOU OUT, BUDDY. I JUST I JUST I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE WHATEVER'S HAPPENING OUT THERE IS IN THE PATCHES THEY'RE GETTING AWAY WITH. DOING IS NOT THE TYPE OF ROAD WORK WE GOT DONE ON OUR, ON OUR STREETS, IN, IN OUR AREA. I MEAN THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE HORRENDOUS. THIS. [00:40:01] I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S I MEAN, THERE'S THEY'RE TERRIBLE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND THEN AND THEN BACK ON THERE, THEY, THEY RAN MINE THROUGH THE ALLEY. THE THEY DID ALL THEIR WORK THROUGH THE ALLEY. AND, AND I WASN'T SATISFIED WITH WHAT THEY DID IN THE ALLEY. SO I CALLED THE PEOPLE THAT DID THE ALLEY MAINTENANCE AND WHAT THEY DO, THEY PASSED THE BUCK ON TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND SAID, YOU NEED TO CALL HERE. YOU NEED TO CALL HERE. YOU NEED TO CALL HERE. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY LEFT A HUGE PILE OF CONCRETE BEHIND MY HOUSE IN THE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. BUT THERE'S NO ONE TO CALL TO TO HAVE THEM REMOVE THE CONTRACTOR BECAUSE THEY'RE OFF MESSING UP ANOTHER PART. I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU MY CARD AFTERWARDS, SIR. OKAY, YOU CALL ME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BOARD. YOU. ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST STARTED THIS JOB, I, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MY CRITERIA WAS, LET'S GET THE OLDEST ONES OFF THE LIST. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LIST IS GROWING. AND SO YOU BASICALLY YOU GOT TO DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, TACKLE THESE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS OR SOME OF THESE LINEAR PROJECTS WHERE MORE PEOPLE USE THEM. SO, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE, THE BALL AND THE HIGH. WE JUST IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PRIORITY GOING TO BE? SO ANYWAY. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION THOUGH. GO AHEAD. SO SEEING WE GAVE A REPORT ON THE 2025 STATUS OF THOSE ARE THOSE PROJECTS. SO THAT WAS BASICALLY FOUR PROJECTS IN ONE CONTINGENCY. IF THERE WAS FUNDS AVAILABLE AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU COULD DO THAT. SO IN GENERAL TERMS, WHAT IS THE WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT CAN BE REALISTICALLY DONE IN A GIVEN YEAR. GIVEN THE CONTRACTOR BASE HERE IN ABILENE AND THE STAFF, IN ORDER TO DO THE APPROPRIATE DESIGN AND PLANNING TO DO THAT. SO IS THAT FIVE? IS THAT FOR RIGHT NOW OR SCOPE? THIS YEAR WE'VE GOT ABOUT $7.5 MILLION TO SPEND. SURE. AND I THINK YOUR QUESTION, SIR, IS THE CAPACITY OF OUR CAPACITY CONTRACTORS, CAPACITY OF LOCAL CONTRACTORS, OR WHO WE TYPICALLY WOULD, WOULD BID OUT TO TO ACCEPT THE WORK. SO FAR, WE'VE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH THE PROJECTS THAT COMES OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE WITH OUR LOCAL CONTRACTOR. MUCH OUR MONEY. OUR MONEY RUNS OUT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I GET THAT. I'M NOT DISPUTING ANY OF THAT. I'M JUST SAYING WHEN I WHEN I SEE A LIST OF, I THINK 25 PROJECTS HERE, AND I KNOW WE HAVE FINITE NUMBER OF FUNDS. I'M JUST CURIOUS. IS IT? ARE WE FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE CAPACITY FOR OUR $7.5 MILLION? I MEAN, WE CAN NICKEL AND DIME AND GET TEN PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF ON THE LIST FOR $7.5 MILLION. BUT IF THERE'S NOT A THE THE WORKFORCE TO DO THOSE TEN PROJECTS, NOR THE STAFF TO DO THE APPROPRIATE PLANNING AND LEVEL OF PLANNING AND ANALYSIS TO GET IT OFF THE GROUND. IT JUST SORT OF SHAPES IN MY MIND WHAT WE NEED. YOU KNOW WHICH ONES WE NEED TO ATTACK. SO ARE YOU SAYING FOCUS ON THE MAIN CONCERN LIKE BARREL AND LIKE THE MAIN RIGHT UNDER 4 OR 5 MILLION MAIN CONTRACTING CUT THAT HAD THE BUDGET ALREADY $3 MILLION PROJECTS IN TOTAL. LIKE, IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, BARRELS STRAIGHT. YOU KNOW THAT BARRELS I MEAN THE WORST ATB AREA. YOU GET THAT TRAFFIC SO BAD IN THAT AREA TOO. AND AND YOU KNOW THAT'S. I'M NOT I'M WITH YOU TOO. I'M TRYING TO EAT AN ELEPHANT WITH A SPOON. YEAH, I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY MIND WRAPPED AROUND. YEAH, WE RECOMMEND TEN, BUT. BUT FULLY KNOWING. OKAY, I'M NOT SURE IF THE STAFF IS ABLE TO GET THAT TEN TARGETS OFF THE GROUND, AND WE HAVE ENOUGH LOCAL CONTRACTORS TO DO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. IF THE STAFF IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF CANNOT. YOU KNOW, THE TIME COMMITMENTS OR WHATEVER ELSE, THEY WILL GO TO A CONSULTING CONTRACT TO ONE OF THE SEVERAL ENGINEERING FIRMS IN TOWN TO TO DO THE DESIGN FOR THESE PROJECTS. OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, MR. BAILEY, I'M MICHAEL ROSSI, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. WHEN THE STREET MAINTENANCE FACILITY PROGRAM ACTUALLY BEGAN MANY YEARS AGO. AT THAT TIME, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND MYSELF MET WITH ALL THE PAVING CONTRACTORS BECAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR CAPACITY THAT WE WERE GOING TO OVERLOAD THEM. THEY LAUGHED AT US. THEY SAID, YOU CAN'T PUT ENOUGH WORK OUT THERE THAT WE CAN'T GET IT DONE AND REALIZE THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST WORKING FOR US, [00:45:04] BUT THEY'RE WORKING FOR ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES IN TOWN, WHETHER IT BE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, PRIVATE INDUSTRY DEVELOPERS, AND THEY GET ALL THE WORK DONE. AND SO I WOULD NOT BE CONCERNED ABOUT US PUTTING TOO MUCH OUT ON THE STREET, THAT THERE WAS NOT CAPACITY FOR THAT TO GET DONE WITHIN ONE YEAR. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. YES, SIR. I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. WE TALKED ABOUT IT. WE HAD A SEPARATE BUDGET WHERE SOMEBODY ORGANIZATION WAS GOING TO DO BARREL STREET. REMEMBER? WE TALKED ABOUT IT. WAS IT? MAYBE I'M A MAYBE I'M WRONG. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE COA. THEY ACTUALLY SET ASIDE ALL THE EXTRA. YEAH. THEIR THEIR MONEY IS SPECIFICALLY EARMARKED FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE TIED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY YES OR NO ONE WHERE THAT MONEY IS SPENT. WE HAVE AN EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH THEM TODAY, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY CHOSEN THE STREETS THAT THEY WANT DONE THAT SPECIFICALLY BENEFITS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF ABILENE. OKAY. OKAY. AROUND BUSINESSES. THEY HAVE TWO PROJECTS CURRENTLY GOING ON. ONES. GREAT. LAKE CHEESE. OKAY. ONE IS OUT IN THE FIVE POINTS. OKAY. FOR SURE. YES. I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND TRYING TO REMEMBER. OKAY. SO MAYBE NEXT YEAR WILL BE DIFFERENT. MORE MONEY. INTERESTING. THERE ARE NO WRONG ANSWERS HERE. I APPRECIATE IT, SIR. REMEMBER MAKE AN INPUT AS WELL. I, I KIND OF TOOK AND DID A LITTLE SEARCHING THROUGH EMAILS, AND I CAME UP WITH SOME A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT I'VE SPOKE TO STAFF ABOUT. AND WE ALL KIND OF DETERMINED THESE THESE WERE ROADS THAT WERE COMMENTED ON OR COMPLAINED ABOUT. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT THOSE OUT. SOME OF THEM ARE ON OUR LIST, SOME OF THEM ARE NOT. SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND ME GOING THROUGH THEM, I'D BE HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT LIST. CHIMNEY ROCK ROAD IS ONE BUFFALO GAP TO CYPRESS POINT. THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY ON THE LIST. MEADOW DRIVE WAS ANOTHER ONE. WE WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL COMMENTS, SIGNIFICANT COMMENTS ON THOSE. THAT'S IN THE LIST FOR A FULL DEPTH REPAIR. SOUTH 14TH IN THE IN IN VARIOUS PHASES. AND WE HAVE A FEW MORE PHASES IN THE LISTS. AND THEN ANTHONY ROAD FROM BUFFALO GAP TO THE CITY LIMITS. WAS COMMENTED SEVERAL TIMES BY STAFF, BY CITIZENS AND FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. NOT ON THE LIST. I WANTED TO JUST POINT A COUPLE OUT AS WELL. WE RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS ON MARIGOLD, WHICH IS NORTH 10TH BETWEEN WAL AND ARNOLD. THIS IS UP NORTH OF TOWN BY FIVE POINTS, WHERE IT COMES AND MEETS INTO NORTH 10TH. THERE ARE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE AND WETLAND ISSUES FLOODWAY ISSUES ON THAT STREET. BUT I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT IT WAS A ONE WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT COMMENTS. BEN RITCHIE DRIVE IS ANOTHER ONE. THAT CAME FROM STAFF AND CITIZENS. NORTH 21ST. THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE ON THAT ONE IS ON MY LIST. MAGEE DRIVE. THAT IS A ROADWAY DOWN SOUTH OFF OF TREADWAY. THAT'S MAINLY USED FOR BUSINESS AND HEAVY TRUCKS. IT IS A GRAVEL ROAD, AND IT DOES GET BEATEN UP. WE DO MAINTAIN IT QUITE OFTEN. CITIZENS AND THE BUSINESSES HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT ONE. WE DO HAVE A LIST OF FORT FARNHAM ROADS THAT I WANTED JUST TO ASK THE QUESTION AND GET THE ADVICE FROM THE BOARD ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD INCLUDE FUTURE PROJECTS IN FORT PHANTOM ROADS. ONTO THIS LIST, OR ADD ANOTHER LIST FOR THOSE ROADWAYS UP THERE. JUST A QUESTION TO CONSIDER. WALDROP DRIVE AND THE. A COUPLE FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT WALDROP DRIVE FROM CITIZENS AND THE THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. SO AGAIN, SIR, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME GO THROUGH THAT LIST. JUST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. THESE LISTS ARE YOURS. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE THERE, YOU WANT US TO TAKE OFF. WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM OFF. WE'RE HAPPY TO ADD OTHER ONES. WE CAN DO EVALUATIONS ON ANY STREETS THAT WE WANT TO PUT ON THERE. FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION ON WHERE THEY GO. BUT IF YOU WANT US TO BUMP SOME UP OR BUMP SOME DOWN, [00:50:01] WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT 21ST STREET. I JUST THINK HAVING RESIDENTS ON A GRAVEL STREET IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN IS KIND OF A TRAVESTY. SO I THINK WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT, I THINK. WELL, DRIVE. I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HOW DANGEROUS THAT'S GETTING. MAYBE WE LOOK AT THAT AND PUT SOME TYPE OF ANALYSIS ON THAT. THOSE PEOPLE AT FORT PHANTOM HILL ARE PAYING THE FEE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IS. LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THOSE IN THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY GOT ANY RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO SPEND 7.5 MILLION? DOLLARS ON THE NORTH SIDE. STREETS ARE VERY, VERY BAD. WE CAN FOCUS ON. WE KNOW I APPRECIATED PICKING NORTH 18TH LAST YEAR, AND MAYBE WE CAN START PICKING, LIKE I SAY, 1.91 CUT SO MUCH OF A NORTH 10TH BE HELPING ALSO THIS COMING YEAR. SO THEY'LL START PICKING LIKE NORTH 10TH AND NORTH 12TH, YOU KNOW, SECTIONS OF EACH TIME, YOU KNOW OF NORTH SIDE AND STUFF. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT AREAS ARE GETTING VERY, VERY BAD ON NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY OF ABILENE. AND I APPRECIATE THE NORTH 10TH. THERE'S LIKE 1.981 CUT. SO MUCH OF LIKE ON COLLEGE HEIGHTS IN ABILENE. IT WAS INTRODUCED IN 2022. THE ESTIMATED COST IS 2.4 MILLION. IS IT'S THAT THE SAME COST AS IT WAS WHEN IT WAS INTRODUCED IN 2022, OR ARE THESE COSTS BEING GENERATED AND GOING UP EVERY YEAR? YEAH, I BELIEVE WE UPDATE THEM WHENEVER THE THE LISTS COME OUT EACH YEAR THE LIST COMES. OKAY. YES, SIR. EVERY YEAR THE PROJECTS ARE UPDATED DEPENDING ON NUMBER ONE, WHAT TREATMENT WE FEEL IS NECESSARY FOR THE PROJECT. IF IT'S GOING TO BE A PARTIAL DEP THAT IS GOING TO BE CHEAPER ONCE IT MOVES INTO THE FULL DEPTH CATEGORY. IT DOES GET MORE EXPENSIVE, AND IT ALSO INCREASES EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THE COST OF MATERIALS DOES GO UP. YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON HOW MUCH IT DOES INCREASE EVERY YEAR. IT VARIES. I THINK THIS YEAR, AFTER RUNNING ALL MY CALCULATIONS, IT CAME UP TO ABOUT A THREE AND A HALF TO 4% INCREASE PER YEAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S ONE REASON YOU'LL SEE THE NEIGHBORHOODS PHASED OUT. BECAUSE COMING TO THE BOARD, WE WE CAN'T DO A $8 MILLION PROJECT THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE PROJECT FOR THE, THE ENTIRE YEAR. SO WE'VE BROKEN THEM DOWN INTO, INTO PHASES. MESQUITE FOREST, YOU'LL SEE THEIR SECTION A, B AND C THOSE ARE, ARE BROKEN DOWN INTO SMALLER CHUNKS STILL ONE 1 TO $3 MILLION CHUNKS. BUT ALLOWING TO GET A COUPLE PROJECTS AT DIFFERENT PLACES IN TOWN. LIKE THE AREA. MOCKINGBIRD TO SALES. SOUTH FIRST TO SOUTH SEVENTH S3A. WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, IT'S GOING TO BE ALMOST TO THE POINT OF, I GUESS, PRICING ITSELF OUT FROM BEING PRESENTED TO US EITHER THAT ARE BEING BROKEN DOWN INTO MULTIPLE SECTIONS. YES, FURTHER BROKEN DOWN INTO PHASE PROJECTS. CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY? I MEAN, HOW GIVE US AN ESTIMATION OF HOW MANY OF THESE WERE PARTIAL DEPTH THAT GRADUATED TO THE FULL DEPTH? JUST THIS, IN THE PAST YEAR, THERE WERE FOUR, FOUR PROJECTS THAT WENT UP. I'M SORRY, I JUST GOT A HAND SIGN FROM FROM MY ENGINEERS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF MY WAY OF THINKING IS PROPER OR NOT, BUT IF I'M LOOKING AT THESE PARTIAL DEPTH REHABILITATIONS FROM 2022 THEY WERE PRESENTED OR INTRODUCED, WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE SMART TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THOSE SO THAT THEY DON'T GRADUATE INTO THE FULL DEPTH? CATEGORY? YEAH. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO WRONG ANSWERS HERE. [00:55:05] I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE DOES IS KEEP THEM FROM GETTING UP TO THOSE TOP TWO LISTS. IT MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF THOUGHT PROCESS IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GIVE A LITTLE BIT THAT MAKES A VERY GOOD POINT TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR EARLIER POINT TO THE PREVENTATIVE MEASURE. SO THAT'S WHERE MY BRAIN IS. MY HOUSE IS ON FIRE. I MEAN BARROW SOUTH SECOND TO SOUTH 11TH. THAT IS A VERY, VERY TRAVELED SECTION. THERE IS YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN INLET AND OUTLET TO ROSE PARK, THE ROSE PARK SENIOR CENTER, A VERY, VERY, VERY HIGHLY TRAFFICKED AREA. AREA. TO ME, THAT THAT SHOULD BE ON THE LIST PERSONALLY, THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE STREET LINEAR PROJECTS. WHICH ONE IS THAT? I BELIEVE THAT IS BARROW PHASE ONE. PROJECT RANK EIGHT. OKAY. SO. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. THAT'S VERY TRAFFIC. THAT'S H-E-B. PEOPLE. RIGHT. SOUTHAMPTON BUREAU. WE'VE LOOKED AT THE COLLEGE HEIGHTS AND ABILENE AREA FOR THREE YEARS. THAT COST WILL ONLY CONTINUE TO GO UP. THAT'S ONE OF THE OLDEST ONES ON THE LIST. YES, SIR. IT'S GOING TO BE NUMBER TWO. THE VERY TOP ONE. SOON IN. I'VE GOT IT. YEAH, I'VE GOT THAT ONE HIGHLIGHTED ALREADY. WITH ME AND I HAVE. WHAT ABOUT 1,000,000.5 MILLION? THREE. YEAH. THREE. PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. THE SODA DISTRICT DOWNTOWN IS A VERY POPULAR PLACE. [01:00:05] IT'S A $1.1 MILLION PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE FEE. ON NORTH 12TH AND MOCKINGBIRD. AND GRABLE WAS AT THAT LITTLE BRIDGE THEY JUST FIXED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. WAS ONE NORTH WILTON. NORTH 12TH? YES. NORTH 12TH. YES. OKAY. AND THAT WAS ON TV. THAT WAS REPAIRS ON THE DECK AND THE BRIDGE AND STUFF. THEY WERE COMPLAINING. YEAH. ANY ANY ROAD? REPAIRS THAT WE WOULD DO WOULD NOT INCLUDE THE WOULD PRECLUDE THE BRIDGE. OKAY. THERE. YEAH. SO WE'LL GO OVER THOSE THREE LETTERS. ABOUT HALF A HALF MILLION. EXCUSE ME. HALF MILLION LEFT. AND MAYBE DO ONE OF THOSE HALF MILLION PREVENTATIVE PROJECTS. THAT ARE THE ROSS TO BUFFALO GAP SOUTH 25TH ONE ON THE LINEAR PROJECT. WHICH ONE BELIEVE THAT IS PROJECT RANKED NUMBER FOUR. 25TH ROSS TO BUFFALO GAP. BUT I KNOW YOU LIKE ROUND NUMBERS, SO YEAH, ONE OF THE HALF MILLION ONE'S A BIT BETTER. WELL, THE THESE ARE JUST BEST GUESSES. YES, SIR. THEIR ESTIMATES. YES, SIR. ANYBODY GOT ANY COMMENTS ON WHAT'S BEEN SUGGESTED? WHERE? WHAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED. OKAY. WE GOT OKAY. WE GOT COLLEGE HEIGHTS, WHICH IS UP IN THE FULL DEPTH. REHAB IS IT'S 2.4 OR 2.5 IF YOU ROUND IT UP. YEAH. OKAY. WE'VE GOT THE SODA DISTRICT AND THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS 1.1351.125. WE'VE GOT 25TH STREET FROM ROSS TO BUFFALO GAP, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. AND THEN WE'VE GOT BARROW STREET FROM SOUTH SECOND TO SOUTH 11TH AT 3.7. 10.6, 7.6. DID BED OVER DO I. SO THAT'S JUST A TAD BIT OVER. WELL, SIR, I MIGHT RECOMMEND DOING ONE MORE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE JUST FOR OUR CONTINGENCY. OKAY. SO IN CASE THE THE COST DUE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, SIGNIFICANTLY COME IN LESS THAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO CONVENE THE BOARD AGAIN TO COME UP WITH A OPTIONAL NOT SAYING THAT WE'LL WE'LL DO IT. WE'LL DO IT IF WE SAVE THE MONEY, TOO. HOW ABOUT THE LONE STAR. LONE STAR? YEAH. EVERYBODY OKAY WITH LONE STAR AND. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. NEED A MOTION FOR THE PROJECTS OF BEING WORK ZONE IN NINE, WHICH IS COLLEGE HEIGHTS AT 2.4. THE SODA DISTRICT FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE WORK ZONE S4 FOR 1.1 MILLION. 25TH STREET FROM ROSS TO BUFFALO GAP IN THE LINEAR PROJECT OF 330,000, IN BARREL STREET FROM SOUTH SECOND TO SOUTH 11TH 3.7 MILLION. AND THEN A CONTINGENCY PROJECT WOULD BE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND LONE STAR. SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT. MOTION. OKAY. BROCK MADE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. BRANSON. WAIT A SECOND. SHELLY. MR. BAILEY? YES. MRS. MARTINEZ. YES. MR. HURT. YES. MR. ISBELL? YES. MR. POLARIS. YES. MR. TODD. YES. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. LAST ITEM IS TO RECEIVE REPORT. [4. Future Meeting: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion, and Take Action on Future Street Maintenance Advisory and Appeals Board Meeting dates.] HOLD. DISCUSSION. TAKE ACTION ON THE NEXT MEETING. AND I THINK MAX HAS GOT SOME DATES FOR US. WE DO, SIR. SO WE TYPICALLY HAVE TWO, TWO OF THESE A YEAR. [01:05:01] UNFORTUNATELY, THIS YEAR, DUE TO THE CYBER ATTACK, WE HAD TO DELAY THIS ONE TO THE END OF AUGUST, OR, I'M SORRY, THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS SO THAT WE HAVE A SECOND ONE DURING THE CALENDAR YEAR 2025. WE'RE LOOKING AT EITHER OCTOBER 30TH, THE DAY BEFORE HALLOWEEN OR THE 13TH OF NOVEMBER BEFORE THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAYS. THIS WAY WE CAN COME BACK TOGETHER. WE'LL KIND OF MARRY UP EVERYTHING THAT WE SAID IN THIS MEETING AND THEN PRESENT AND TALK ANYTHING THAT MAY COME UP BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. ANYBODY GOT ANY? THIS IS ALL PRETTY SCARY. I LIKE OCTOBER. OCTOBER 30TH IS FINALLY. MAY. OCTOBER. OCTOBER 30TH. 30TH. OCTOBER 30TH. OKAY, WE GOT A MOTION FOR OCTOBER 30TH FROM BRANSON. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? MR. BAILEY? SECOND, MR. BAILEY? YES. MISS MARTINEZ? YES. MR.. HURT? YES. MR. ISBELL. YES. MR.. POLARIS. MR.. TODD. YES. MOTION PASSES. WE ARE ADJOURNED. JUST A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR. SO THANK YOU FOR. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.