Oct 08, 2025 Airport Development Board Meeting

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GET STARTED.

[CALL TO ORDER]

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MR. HIBBS, YOU CAN COME UP HERE.

THEY GOT YOU A SEAT. YEAH.

SO WE DO HAVE A FULL HOUSE TODAY.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A NEW MEMBER TO THE AIRPORT BOARD, AND IT IS CHRISTY ECKERT.

AND SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO START WITH ROB.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR EACH OF YOU TO JUST GO AROUND AND SAY YOUR NAME, WHAT YOU DO WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

CINDY HALEY, SEMI-RETIRED AND INVOLVED IN THE BRANDI WILLIAMS, TAYLOR COUNTY JUVENILE.

I DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE. YEAH, TAYLOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

WAIT A MINUTE. I'M JORDAN HIBBS WITH EIGHT ENGINEERING HERE IN TOWN.

I'M NANCY LYLES. I'M A RETIRED COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER.

SHE'S ALSO VICE CHAIR OF THE AIRPORT BOARD.

YEAH. STEVE. MY NAME IS STEVE KRATZER.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME.

MY KRATZER MARKETING IS MY COMPANY, AND I'M JAMES BOONE AND I'M JUST A COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER WORK HERE. SO MARK PERKINS IN THE INSURANCE BUSINESS HERE IN TOWN.

AND YOU WANT TO CHRISTY ECKART I'M GENERAL COUNSEL AT HENDRICK AND I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS. SO NEW TO THE COMMUNITY.

WELCOME. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED COPIES OF THE MINUTES.

[2. Consideration and Action Approving Minutes of the September 10, 2025 Meeting]

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER MEETING.

AND A SECOND. SO ALL IN FAVOR? ALSO, REAL QUICK, WE'RE GOING TO BECAUSE IT'S BEING TELEVISED AND NOT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR MIC ON. SO I WILL START CALLING FOR AN I AND A SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE NEW.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO START DOING THAT. SO IF MOTION AND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT, YOU MAY SAY I'M RAISE YOUR HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR. DORN. THANK YOU. CHAIR DODD.

[3. Airport Management Reports]

SEPTEMBER. SO WE ARE WE HAD A LOAD FACTOR CREEP BACK UP AGAIN FOR SEPTEMBER.

WE SAW IT DROP A LITTLE BIT IN IN AUGUST BUT 81% LOAD FACTOR.

AND AGAIN THAT IS THE NUMBER OF PASSENGER BOARDINGS THROUGHOUT THAT MONTH.

OUR ENPLANEMENTS WERE UP 5% FOR THE MONTH.

AND THEN WE'RE STILL UP ABOUT 13% FOR THE YEAR.

SO STILL A VERY GOOD MONTH AND A GOOD YEAR.

OUR AND ALWAYS SO CHRIS ALWAYS DRIFT UP DOWN AFTER THAT TO TALK ABOUT PARKING REVENUE, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US.

AND IT IS UP 14.36% FOR THE YEAR.

AND SO THAT CLOSES OUT OUR FISCAL YEAR.

OUR FISCAL YEAR IS OCTOBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SO CLOSE OUT OUR FISCAL YEAR.

AND WE WERE WELL OVER $1 MILLION FOR THE YEAR IN OUR PARKING LOT REVENUE.

ON THE RENTAL CAR REVENUES.

THEY WERE AGAIN THE MONTHLY.

YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE MONTHLY BEING A LITTLE VOLATILE.

IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THE YEAR FOR THE WHOLE YEAR UP 10.36%.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR STATISTICS, DON I SHOULD PROBABLY KNOW THIS, BUT ON THE RENTAL CAR REVENUE ON THAT LINE.

LET'S SEE LIKE YEAR TO DATE, 25.

THAT'S NOT OUR PORTION.

CORRECT. THAT 4,213,000.

THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S THE TOTAL REVENUES.

AND THEN WE GET ABOUT 10% OFF OF THAT, THAT OUR OUR GUARANTEE IS 10%.

THAT'S THE MINIMUM ANNUAL GUARANTEE.

THANK YOU. AND. IF YOU'D LIKE TO, WE CAN ALSO MOVE TO THE PRICING REPORT.

JUST LOOKING AT OUR AIRFARES OUTLOOK 14 DAYS OUT IS WE'RE WE'RE BACK

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WE'RE STILL ABOVE DFW, BUT WE IN 90% OF THE CASES, PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL BE.

AND THEN ADD AS YOU LOOK AT THE 30 DAYS OUT, WE ARE AT 460 ON AVERAGE AND MIDLAND IS AT 502. BUT STILL BOTH OF THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE DFW 237.

SO BUT THAT IS THAT'S QUITE AN IMPROVEMENT OVER ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO AND A MONTH PRIOR TO THAT, WHERE WE WERE REALLY SEEING SOME DISPARITIES THAT WERE CONCERNING TO US.

DID DID TRY TO GET THAT TO AMERICA'S ATTENTION.

THEY NEVER PROMISED ANYTHING. BUT SOMEHOW, SOME WAY, THEY THEY ALWAYS TEND TO WE SEE THEM TREND DOWN.

DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE WE SAY SOMETHING TO THEM, TRY TO BRING IT TO THEIR ATTENTION, BUT WE USUALLY SEE SOME KIND OF REACTION IN THE FAIRS AFTER WE DO THAT.

SO IT'S GOOD NEWS EITHER WAY THAT WE'VE SEEN SEEM TO COME BACK IN LINE WITH MIDLAND.

YES. SO AN OBSERVATION SO MANY OF THE 30 DAYS OUT ARE ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN THE 14 DAYS OUT.

IS THERE AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT? HOLIDAYS. OKAY, GOOD. WELL, YEAH.

THIS IS THIS IS LOOKING AGAIN.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT WELL YOU 11.

AND I'M SORRY. NOVEMBER 7TH.

SO, YEAH, I COULD BE GETTING INTO THE HOLIDAY PERIOD, BUT I. I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO PERSUADE YOU THAT I UNDERSTAND HOW AIRLINE PRICING WORKS.

INTERESTING. I DON'T. WORK ON A TUESDAY.

ON TUESDAY. THAT'S A LONG, LONG STANDING THING.

QUESTION. LOOKING AT THE LEGISLATIVE REGULATORY ISSUES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK IN, IN ITEM FOUR ABOUT A RECENT, RELATIVELY RECENT LEGISLATIVE OR REGULATORY CHANGE REGARDING AIR CARRIER INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. BUT, I MEAN, ALL EYES ARE ON DC FOR THE FEDERAL SHUTDOWN.

I HAVE NOT FOUND AN AGENCY THAT I WORK WITH WHERE THEY ARE NON-RESPONSIVE AND NOBODY'S WORKING. SO AT LEAST NOT YET.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT IMPACT OUR AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT IMPACT OUR TSA SCREENERS.

NOW THEY ARE WORKING TECHNICALLY FOR FREE RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF BACK AND FORTH AND POSTURING AND SUCH, BUT HISTORICALLY, THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN PAID.

BUT FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DID DURING A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.

BUT THEY ARE CONSIDERED ESSENTIAL SERVICES.

SO THEY STAY ON THE JOB AND WITH WITH THE INTENT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET PAID.

AND I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE THEM NOT.

SO BUT YOU KNOW, WORKING SIX DAY WEEKS, ARE THEY NOT AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS? I, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT HERE.

I HAVE NOT HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE AIR TRAFFIC MANAGER HERE.

OUR REPORT ON THAT. BUT BUT YEAH.

SO IF THAT GOES ON THEN WE MAY BEGIN TO SEE SOME PROBLEMS. YEAH. SO THE LONGER THIS GOES THEN, YOU KNOW THE MORE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON ON MORALE. AND THEN YOU START SEEING PEOPLE CALL IN SICK MORE.

BUT THE SIX DAY A WEEK, I BELIEVE THAT'S HAPPENING IN SOME OF THE LARGER HUB AIRPORTS. AND BUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THAT KIND OF TRICKLES DOWN TO AIRPORTS OUR SIZE TOO.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, CONGRESS HAS BEEN OUT.

THE HOUSE IS OUT ON RECESS RIGHT NOW, AND THE SENATE IS DEALING WITH THE BUDGET.

SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ANYTHING COME UP RECENTLY.

SO ON OUR CURRENT PROJECTS, WE DO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE DESIGN FOR THE TERMINAL IN AND EXPANSION AND IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT.

SEAN AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT WITH OTHER CITY STAFF AND OUR ARCHITECTS.

WE WILL HAVE TOMORROW'S A BIG DAY FOR US BECAUSE WE WILL RECEIVE PROPOSALS, FORMAL PROPOSALS FROM THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

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THAT WILL. AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO THE BOARD.

A SELECTION TO THE BOARD IN AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THAT IS GOING TO BE A NEW PROCESS FOR US.

FOR THE AIRPORT. THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER IT'S CALLED A CMR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.

THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER CMR CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY HAS DONE FOR VARIOUS OTHER PROJECTS, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE USED THAT AT THE AIRPORT.

AND I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF HAD IN THE BACK OF MY MIND THAT A TERMINAL PROJECT REALLY IS A GOOD PROJECT FOR THAT TYPE OF PURCHASE, PURCHASING METHOD AND CONTRACTING METHOD.

SO IT'S A GREAT WAY TO DO A PROJECT LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU GET YOU GET CLOSER TO REAL TIME COSTS. YES. YOU WALK THROUGH THAT PROCESS BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S A WISE THING TO DO.

YEAH. AND AND SO IT, THE INTENT IS TO GET A CONTRACTOR IN INVOLVED DURING THE, THE LAST HALF OF THE DESIGN STAGE.

SO THAT WAY THEY ARE ABLE TO GIVE THEIR IDEAS ABOUT, OKAY, THIS IS HOW THIS IS, THIS IS A BETTER CONSTRUCTION METHOD THAN WHAT THE ARCHITECT MAYBE PROPOSING THESE MATERIALS MIGHT BE, MIGHT YOU MIGHT HAVE TROUBLE GETTING THESE MATERIALS IN THE IN THE FUTURE. WHY DON'T YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE. IT'S JUST IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A REALLY GOOD WAY TO DO A PROJECT LIKE THIS WHERE YOU'RE BASICALLY YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF RENOVATION ALONG WITH THE EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING BUILDING.

SO I'M LOOKING. YES. THE QUESTION I'VE BEEN ASKED THE MOST IS, HOW ON EARTH ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP THE AIRPORT OPEN AND OPERATIONAL AND HAVE CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME? SO MY QUESTION IS, WILL SOMEBODY BE DESIGNATED TO WORK SOLELY ON HOW TO KEEP THINGS RUNNING AND NOT HAVE IT BE A HASSLE FOR EVERYBODY? OH YEAH, THAT'S THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE RELAYED IN THE, IN THE PRE-PROPOSAL MEETING TO FOR THE CMAA AND OUR ARCHITECT TO THEY WE ALL KNOW THE AIRPORT DOES NOT STOP.

IT'S GOT TO BE OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, PROBABLY ABOUT 21 HOURS A DAY OR 20 HOURS A DAY. SO THERE'S VERY LITTLE CHANCE OR VERY LITTLE TIME TO DO NIGHT WORK.

BUT WE DID SAY THERE IS NIGHT WORK INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TIMES WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY LOUD, JUST WITH THE, THE DEMOLITION IN PARTICULAR.

SO WE'LL TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE OVERNIGHT TIMES EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST A FEW HOURS, BUT AND THEN THE DEAD TIMES IN THE TERMINAL AS WELL.

BUT YES, YES, FOR SURE.

THAT IS A BIG PART OF THIS PROJECT, IS THE COORDINATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALWAYS OPERATIONAL. AND I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY.

IT'S GOING TO BE UGLY, DUSTY, LOUD FOR SURE.

NOT COMFORTABLE AT TIMES, BUT WE WILL BE OPEN EVERY DAY DURING CONSTRUCTION. GOOD. WHAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE? WISH FOR DATES. SO AGAIN, GETTING THE SEYMOUR ON BOARD IS A VERY KEY PART OF THIS PROJECT, SO WE HOPE TO HAVE THEM AGAIN, AN AWARD RECOMMENDATION TO YOU GUYS IN NOVEMBER AND THEN BRING THAT TO COUNCIL FOR A CONTRACT AWARD AT THE SOONEST MEETING AFTER THAT.

AND THEN LET THEM GET TO WORK ON LOOKING AT THE DESIGN ALONG WITH STAFF AND PARK HILL.

AND SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

WE START CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE BOARDING AREA EXPANSION BY MAY.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR.

GREAT. THE AIRCRAFT RAMP PROJECT, THAT'S THE AIR TANKER RAMP THAT IS STILL GOING VERY WELL.

SHAUN ANY ANY THING. I KNOW I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT, YEAH, IT'S. NO, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S GOING WELL.

I THINK THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON CONCRETE, BUT.

AS OF TODAY IS ALL. YEAH.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A COMPLETION DATE IN FEBRUARY OF 26.

SO THAT'LL IT'S ABOUT A 12 MONTH PROCESS PROJECT ALTOGETHER.

AND BUT WE'VE HAD GOOD WEATHER FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR CONSTRUCTING SOMETHING OUTSIDE LIKE THIS. AND SO VERY, VERY, VERY FEW ISSUES NOW THAT WE'VE ONCE WE GOT PAST THE UTILITY RELOCATION, THE GAS LINE AND THE FAA FIBER, THOSE WERE CHALLENGING.

IT WAS A HARD START FOR THAT PROJECT, BUT WE GOT THROUGH IT.

THAT WAS ALL COMPLETED BY THE END OF JUNE, AND THEY'VE BEEN BLOWING AND GOING EVER SINCE. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT COMPLETED ON TIME.

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WE REALLY HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE.

EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE RUNNING WELL RIGHT NOW.

I'M LOOKING FOR A PIECE OF WOOD TO KNOCK ON, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

WE ENDED THE FISCAL YEAR IN DECENT SHAPE.

AND THEN YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THINGS STILL RUNNING.

SO JUST THE MINOR STUFF THAT, THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF.

BUT OVERALL, ALL THE MAJOR SYSTEMS ARE STILL WORKING.

AIRSTRIP ATTACK. SO THAT IS COMING UP IN TWO WEEKS.

A WEEK AND A HALF ACTUALLY.

SO OCTOBER 18TH AND 19TH, A SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

AND THIS WILL BE YEAR FOUR THAT WE'VE HOSTED THIS EVENT.

WE'RE HOPING OF COURSE, THAT IT'S ANOTHER GOOD EVENT.

THE DRIVERS WHO COME TO ABILENE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS REALLY LOVE THE AIRPORT, THE RUNWAY IN PARTICULAR.

IT'S THE LONGEST THAT THEY GO ON, AND IT'S PROBABLY IN.

IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BETTER CONDITIONED RUNWAYS THAT THEY RUN ON.

SO THEY REALLY ENJOY COMING OUT HERE.

AND THEY, WE USUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEED RECORDS, WORLD SPEED RECORDS BROKEN WHEN THEY'RE HERE.

SO IT IS A, A VERY IT'S A FUN EVENT.

SO I ENJOY BEING OUT THERE WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE.

IT'S KIND OF AN ALL HANDS ON DECK FROM STAFF.

AND I ENJOY BEING OUT THERE A LONG DAYS, BUT IT'S KIND OF FUN SEEING THESE CARS AND TRUCKS AND MOTORCYCLES GO VERY, VERY, VERY FAST ALONG THE RUNWAY.

SO IT'S AN ENJOYABLE THING.

AIRPORT TENANT ISSUES AND PERFORMANCE.

NOTHING REALLY TO REPORT THERE.

THE AIRPORT ACCESS ROAD.

SO WE I'M HOPING WE CAN BE ON THE STREET AGAIN.

THIS IS IS DELAYED, BUT WE'VE HAD SOME DESIGN DELAYS IN THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO ADD A ANOTHER DESIGN FIRM TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL LIGHT.

AND ON HIGHWAY 36, WHERE THE ROAD WILL INTERSECT RIGHT AT HIGHWAY 36 AND FM 18.

SO THAT HAS KIND OF DELAYED THE DESIGN, BUT THAT'S WRAPPING UP AS WELL AS SOME AS DESIGN ON THE SIGNAGE THAT WILL BE ON THEIR PARK HILL HAS BEEN ENGAGED BY ET TO DO THAT WORK. SO WE ARE I THINK WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

THE BUDGET ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW IS WITHIN WHAT OUR FUNDING LEVEL IS.

SO YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN BE ON THE STREET BY EARLY NOVEMBER BIDDING THIS PROJECT AND THEN START CONSTRUCTION.

YOU KNOW, PROBABLY TWO MONTHS AFTER WE WITHIN TWO MONTHS OF ACCEPTING AWARDING A BID.

SO THAT WILL ALSO BE. GEEZ, WE'VE GOT SO MANY JUST REALLY BIG PROJECTS THAT ARE JUST CHANGING THE THE AIRPORT.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL LOOK OF THE AIRPORT AND FUNCTION OF THE AIRPORT.

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT GETTING KICKED OFF. AIR SERVICE AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT UPDATES.

I THINK EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT ELIZABETH ENDED HER POSITION ON SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SO THIS THIS REPORT WILL GET SIGNIFICANTLY LESS OVER TIME.

BUT WE DO STILL HAVE A YOU KNOW, A MEDIA PRESENCE OUT THERE THAT'LL THAT WILL PETER OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

OUR FUNDING FROM DCA FOR ADVERTISING ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SO THOSE THOSE ARE BEING THOSE CONTRACTS ARE BEING FULFILLED WITH ANY REMAINING TIME ON THOSE THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED.

SO AND THEN THE THE WEBSITE IS PRETTY MUCH UP TO DATE, SO WE HOPE THAT'LL LAST US WILL BE STABLE FOR A WHILE.

AND LAST, US AND ELIZABETH DID A VERY GOOD JOB GETTING US WELL POSITIONED BEFORE SHE LEFT. SO THAT WAS MUCH APPRECIATED.

LAND DEVELOPMENT. SO I HAVE HERE SEEK AN FAA LAND RELEASE.

SO WE HAVE TO DO WHAT'S CALLED A LAND RELEASE WITH FAA FOR LAND THAT IS FEDERALLY OBLIGATED, WHICH MEANS THAT IT WAS THERE WAS FEDERAL MONEY INVOLVED.

AIRPORT LAND THAT WAS THAT HAD FEDERAL MONEY INVOLVED IN IT.

WHEN WE WANT TO CHANGE THE USE OR WE WANT TO SELL PROPERTY, AIRPORT PROPERTY. SO I HAD BEEN TOLD FROM THE TIME I GOT HERE THAT THE CITY NEVER HAD NEVER

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AND THEN WE'VE WE STARTED A A VERY SIMPLE LAND RELEASE PROCESS WITH THE FAA EARLIER THIS YEAR AND TO, TO GET AREA B RELEASED.

SO THAT WAY WE COULD CHANGE OR CHANGE THE USE FOR SOME OF THOSE PARCELS TO THE, THE COMMERCIAL THE NON-AERONAUTICAL USES LIKE FOR THE CONVENIENCE STORE ON AN AREA.

BE FOUND OUT DURING THAT PROCESS THAT A GRANT FOR ABOUT $100,000 WAS TAKEN BY THE CITY IN 1973 TO REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR PURCHASE OF SOME OF THAT LAND. SO THAT STOPPED OUR SIMPLE PROCESS AND IS NOW GOING TO TRIGGER A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED PROCESS WITH THE FAA, AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET A CONSULTANT TO HELP OUT WITH THAT. SO IT'S SLOWED HAS SLOWED THE PROCESS DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY FOR US.

WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS CLEARED BY JANUARY OF EARLIER EARLIER THIS YEAR.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID FOR THE TSC LAND SALE BACK IN 2017.

SO IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE.

IT'S JUST, AGAIN, A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

AND WE'LL BE ENGAGING A CONSULTANT TO HELP OUT WITH THAT.

RIGHT. HAVE TO WRITE A SCOPE OF WORK FOR IT HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND GET THAT GET THAT OUT THERE. SO WE'LL BE UPDATING YOU IN NOVEMBER OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT, BUT IT'S JUST YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO FULLY UTILIZE THAT LAND.

ANY IF WE WERE TO HAVE A DEVELOPER SAID, HEY, I WANT WANT TO BUILD A, AN AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURING BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY, WE COULD DO THAT TOMORROW.

BUT IT'S THOSE NON AERONAUTICAL USES THAT WE WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR WITH BY HAVING THE LAND RELEASE DONE. SO THAT WAY WE CAN JUMP ON THOSE AS OPPORTUNITIES COME UP.

ARE THERE PROVISIONS WITHIN THOSE AGREEMENTS THAT ALLOW FOR A WAIVER OF THAT REQUIREMENT.

NO, NO. SINCE SINCE WE USED FEDERAL.

AGAIN. FEDERAL FUNDS THERE.

THE GRANT ASSURANCES SAY THAT THAT FEDERAL INTEREST LASTS A LIFETIME.

IT EXISTS FOREVER. SO IT WAS ONLY $100,000 IN 1973.

IT MEANS A LOT MORE THAN 100,000 MEANS TODAY.

BUT IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL FEDERALLY OBLIGATED.

SO WE HAVE TO DO THIS PROCESS NOW.

IN 2018, CONGRESS DID FOR AIRPORTS OUR SIZE.

THEY DID STILL FURTHER SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS.

SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WHAT WE HAD TO DO IN 2017 FOR THE TSC LAND SALE WILL BE ABBREVIATED SOMEWHAT FROM WHAT WE HAD THIS TIME, BUT THAT'S WE REALLY NEED TO DIG.

WE'LL HAVE A CONSULTANT DIG MORE INTO THAT AND HELP US OUT WITH THAT.

BUT AGAIN, MORE TO COME ON IT.

YES. SO IS IT POSSIBLE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO COME IN AND THEY SAID, WE WANT THIS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH, THAT THEY COULD AGREE TO PAY THE $100,000 BACK AS A REIMBURSEMENT.

WE STILL HAVE TO GET IT, GET THAT FEDERAL OBLIGATION RELEASED BY THE FAA OBLIGATION. SO IT'S NOT AND EVEN THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY FAA BACK FOR THE $100,000. AT WORST, IT'S GOING TO BE 90% OR WHATEVER THAT GRANT MATCH WAS AT THAT TIME.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WHAT IT WAS AT THAT TIME.

THAT WAS A VERY, VERY EARLY ON IN THE FAA GRANT LIFE.

SO IT, IT I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, IT WORKS.

IT'S GOING TO BE 100,000, BUT THERE PROBABLY WAS A MATCH COMPONENT THAT THE CITY HAD TO COME UP WITH.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE DEDUCTED FROM THAT AMOUNT.

SO IS THIS A PROACTIVE REASON OR IS THERE A REASON? NO, IT'S IT'S VERY MUCH PROACTIVE.

SO THAT WAY WE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME, BUT ALSO GENERATE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TOO.

SO BEFORE WE GO FURTHER IN TRYING TO GET A CONVENIENCE STORE, WE NEED TO HAVE THIS IN PLACE OR ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN AREA B, AND PROBABLY WE WANT TO DO IT FOR AREAS A AND C AS WELL JUST TO GET THAT DONE.

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YES BECAUSE IT IS. IT CAN BE.

IT COULD BE 120 DAYS. IT COULD BE YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A THREE MONTH.

IT COULD BE A SIX MONTH PROCESS.

BECAUSE OF WHAT? BECAUSE OF CONGRESS'S STREAMLINING OF THE PROCESS.

IT PROBABLY WOULD BE MORE LIKE A THREE MONTH PROCESS FOR US.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A DEVELOPER COME IN AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO PUT A NON-AERONAUTICAL DEVELOPMENT ON ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND SAY, OH, WELL, LET'S WE GOT TO GO DO THIS FIRST AND MISS OUT ON THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO. RIGHT. MAKES SENSE.

SO IS THIS I JUST GOT TO ASK SO WAS THIS NOT AN ISSUE WITH THE PREVIOUS CONVENIENCE STORE POSSIBILITY? AT THAT TIME WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THIS GRANT.

SO AND AND FAA WOULD HAVE BEEN.

SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN.

BUT OUR PREVIOUS FAA PROGRAM MANAGER KNEW WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH THIS LAND AND SAID IT WASN'T A PROBLEM. BUT THERE WAS NO RECORD OF THIS GRANT THAT EXISTS.

THERE IS NO RECORD OF THIS GRANT THAT EXISTS WITH FAA.

ALEX FOUND THAT GRANT IN OUR BASEMENT AND FAA DOES NOT HAVE A RECORD OF IT.

SO WE DID THE RIGHT THING AND SAID, HEY, THIS IS WE FOUND THIS.

SO THAT STOPPED WHAT WE WERE DOING AT THAT POINT, THE SIMPLE LAND RELEASE.

SO IF IF WE HAD A CONVENIENCE STORE SITTING THERE NOW ON THAT FROM THAT PREVIOUS AGREEMENT, IT WOULD HAVE WE WOULDN'T HAVE LOOKED FOR THAT PREVIOUS GRANT AND IT WOULD HAVE SAT THERE FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG WITHOUT ANYBODY KNOWING.

BECAUSE, AGAIN, FAA ADMITTED TO US THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A RECORD OF IT, AND THERE'S NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

NO. THAT IS. YEAH. SO THERE'S NO GOES TO THE ON LAND ON EQUIPMENT LIKE OUR AIRCRAFT RESCUE FIREFIGHTING TRUCK THAT WE BOUGHT WITH.

SO WE WILL SELL THAT FOR SALVAGE AT SOME POINT.

WELL AS SURPLUS. BUT THE FAA, THE FAA VALUES THAT DIFFERENTLY.

AND WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

WE'LL HAVE TO WE MAY HAVE TO PAY THEM $5,000 OUT OF WHATEVER PROCEEDS WE RECEIVE.

BUT CAN WE BARRICADE THE BASEMENT SO ALEX CAN'T GO DOWN THERE? WHAT WERE YOU DOING DOWN THERE? HE WAS DOWN THERE LOOKING JUST.

I SAID, HEY, JUST TO MAKE SURE, BUT WE WE'RE REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW TO KEEP OUR GRANT AGREEMENTS FOREVER IN PERPETUITY.

YEP. SO THE LEGAL QUESTION.

OKAY. SO SOMETIMES LEGAL ADVISES TO NOT DO THREE DIFFERENT THINGS AT THE SAME TIME.

SOMETIMES LEGAL. AND I'M NOT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE MY LEGAL WAS SAYING, NO, LET'S JUST DO IT AS IT COMES TO US.

WHICH SEEMED KIND OF GOOFY TO ME, BUT SO IS THERE AN ADVANTAGE TO DOING THINGS ALL AT ONCE OR SEPARATELY OR THAT? IS THAT A QUESTION? ANYBODY CAN ANSWER EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING? WELL, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT TAKING THE A, B AND C.

YEAH. AND GOING FOR GOING FOR CORRECTING THIS ISSUE SO THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THIS.

AND SO SO KELLY KELLY IS NOT OUR ASSIGNED ATTORNEY.

STANLEY IS. AND HE'S NOT HERE.

AND STANLEY HAS SOME FAMILIARITY WITH OUR LAND USE PLAN.

AND THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT AREAS ON THAT. BUT SO IT'S IT'S A DISADVANTAGE FOR HER TO ANSWER THAT OF COURSE.

BUT MAYBE, MAYBE WHEN THIS COMES UP AGAIN IN NOVEMBER, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH STANLEY.

WELL, THAT'S NOT BEEN ASKED OF STANLEY.

YEAH, YEAH, I WOULD STILL SAY.

I MEAN, OF COURSE, AT THE VERY LEAST WE WANT TO DO AREA B, RIGHT? BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO SAVE SOME MONEY BY GETTING ALL THREE OF THEM DONE AT ONE TIME AND UNDER ONE CONTRACT, THEN WHY NOT? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE NON-AERONAUTICAL USE LAND IDENTIFIED IN ALL THREE OF THOSE AREAS.

I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S FINE TO DO THAT NOW.

IT SEEMS THAT WAY. BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT STAN'S TAKE ON IT IS, IS ON IT, BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO DO ALL THREE AT THE SAME TIME.

BUT I DON'T KNOW. OKAY.

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JUST B. YES. OKAY. YEAH.

SO. BUT I MAY NOT SEND ALEX BACK INTO THE BASEMENT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT ANC.

YES, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE BASEMENT.

MAYBE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET.

ANYWAY, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, AND AND I, YOU KNOW, AND BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THEY COME ABOUT. SO BUT WE'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL THAT THAT CONTRACT WITH A CONSULTANT MAY OR MAY NOT NEED MAY OR MAY OR MAY NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF COUNCIL APPROVAL BECAUSE OF THE EXPENDITURE.

BUT WE'LL STILL DISCUSS IT WITH WITH THE BOARD AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED TO AND AND GIVE STANLEY A LITTLE HEADS UP, TOO, SO HE CAN BE PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION AS WELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. STAFFING. SO WE'RE I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

WE HAD A NEW OPERATIONS OFFICER START WITH US YESTERDAY.

SO I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY VACANCIES AT THIS POINT.

SO WE'RE 100%. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO RECOMMEND AN AMENDMENT TO THE AIR CARRIER INCENTIVE

[4. Discussion and Action to Recommend an Amendment to the Air Carrier Incentive Policy]

COUNCIL ADOPTED THAT THAT WAS GUIDED BY FAA REGULATIONS ON THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

SO WE CAN WAIVE AIRPORT FEES, RENT AND FEES FOR UP TO TWO YEARS.

AND THE FAA CHANGED MADE SOME REVISIONS TO THEIR REGULATION AND THAT WERE EFFECTIVE DECEMBER OF 23. SO GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT THAT RECENTLY WHAT'S GOING OKAY? WE PROBABLY NEED TO ADJUST OUR POLICY A LITTLE BIT.

AND I DID NOT GET THAT OUT TO YOU IN TIME, SO I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH TABLING THIS UNTIL THE NOVEMBER MEETING IF Y'ALL WANT TO. IS THAT WAY, YOU CAN HAVE A TIME TO LOOK AT IT.

AND FRANKLY, IT REALLY WASN'T REALLY FULLY DEVELOPED UNTIL YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

BUT AGAIN, I DID NOT GET IT OUT TO YOU, BUT WHAT I HAVE DONE IS GONE BACK IN AND ADJUSTED. WE I'VE WE KEEP THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE.

BASICALLY THOSE ARE THE SAME WHERE WE CAN OFFER A A REDUCTION OR A COMPLETE WAIVER OF RENTS AND FEES FOR UP TO 24 MONTHS PER FAA POLICY.

IN THE PAST, FAA, FAA DID NOT ALLOW AIRPORT STAFF TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY TYPE OF REVENUE GUARANTEE WITH ANOTHER ENTITY FROM WHERE THE MONEY WAS COMING FROM ANOTHER ENTITY.

BUT NOW IT ALLOWS AIRPORT STAFF TO ACT AS AN ADVISER TO THAT ENTITY AND TO THE AIRLINE.

SO I'VE ADDED THAT TO THE POLICY AS WELL.

BUT IT STILL ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME THING.

AND IT IT IS NOT A OKAY, YOU'VE GOT A AIRLINE A THAT SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO.

MINNEAPOLIS. AND SO WE CAN WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM FREE RENT FOR TWO YEARS.

IT GIVES US TOOLS THAT WE CAN BASED ON IT GIVES US TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO EVERY FEE AND RENT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIVE EVERY FEE AND RENT FOR THAT AIRLINE. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT FOR TWO YEARS. WE CAN DO UP TO THOSE THINGS.

SO IT'S JUST IT REALLY IS REVISING THE POLICY SO THAT IT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE CHANGES THAT THE FAA HAS MADE, AND IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO REACT A LITTLE BIT FASTER IF WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY COME TO US AND BRING BRING TO THE BOARD A RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE CURRENT POLICY AND BASED ON THE CURRENT REGULATIONS.

SO IT'S JUST UPDATING THE CURRENT POLICY.

IT'S GOING TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE FROM 2006.

BUT IT ALLOWS US TO DO THE, THE AIRPORT STAFF BEING ABLE TO ADVISE

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END OF STATEMENT. TO PROVIDE A REVENUE GUARANTEE TO AN AIRLINE FOR NEW AIR SERVICE.

BUT NOW AIRPORT STAFF CAN LEGALLY PROVIDE CONSULTATION.

SO WE CAN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH THE NEGOTIATION OF AN AGREEMENT WITH ANOTHER AIRLINE AND ANOTHER ENTITY.

AND WE CAN HELP WITH EXPLAINING THE DATA, THE PERFORMANCE DATA OF THAT AIRLINE THROUGHOUT THE TERM OF A REVENUE GUARANTEE AGREEMENT.

IT'S DIFFERENT. WE COULD DO ALL THOSE THINGS BECAUSE IN 2020, WHEN WE HAD SKYWEST BRING SERVICE TO HOUSTON HERE, BECAUSE WE HELD THE GRANT FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR A REVENUE GUARANTEE. WE DON'T HAVE A GRANT IN HAND TO DO THAT NOW.

SO IF THERE WERE ANOTHER ENTITY THAT CAME UP WITH THE REVENUE GUARANTEE WE CAN WE CAN ONLY PARTICIPATE, AS I SAID, AS AN ADVISOR.

WE CANNOT BE A PARTY. THE AIRPORT CANNOT BE A PARTY TO THAT AGREEMENT.

THE AIRPORT CAN'T HANDLE ANY OF THE BILLING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S ALL SPECIFIED IN THE IN THE IN THE REGULATION.

ADDITIONALLY, IF THE AIRPORT DECIDES TO CONDUCT A, A MARKETING OR ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN FOR NEW SERVICE, FAA IS JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN'T LEAVE THINGS ALONE, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE CANNOT ADVERTISE SPECIFICALLY TO THE NEW SERVICE.

IT HAS TO BE ADVERTISING THE AIRPORT AND ALL OF THE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE AT THAT TIME.

SO WE CAN SAY WE'VE GOT FIVE FLIGHTS A DAY TO DFW LIKE WE HAVE NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE FLIGHTS A DAY TO MINNEAPOLIS WITH THAT NEW CARRIER, BUT WE CAN'T JUST SAY COME FLY AIRLINE, ACMI AIRLINE TO MINNEAPOLIS.

WE STILL HAVE TO SAY AMERICAN AIRLINES HAS FIVE FLIGHTS A DAY.

SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF BEING FAIR.

SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE POLICY JUST KIND OF IS JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE REGULATIONS.

IT'S A POLICY THAT MAKES SURE WE FOLLOW REGULATION.

SO AGAIN, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU PROBABLY LATER THIS WEEK.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO TABLE IT AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WHEN, WHEN YOU'VE SEEN IT, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE WITH ME.

I JUST DID NOT GET IT DONE IN TIME TO GET IT TO YOU GUYS.

WOULD THE BOARD LIKE TO TAKE ACTION ON IT TODAY? DO YOU WANT TO TABLE IT? I MOVE, WE TABLE IT UNTIL WE GET FURTHER INFORMATION.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TABLE THAT.

WELL, WAIT A SECOND FOR A SECOND.

I'M YEAH. JUST A VOICE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR? YEAH. WE'LL NEED A VOTE.

I SECOND THE MOTION. I WAS JUST WAITING TO HEAR WHAT Y'ALL SAID.

OH, OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE IT.

WE HAVE A SECOND. CINDY.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE AND RAISE YOUR HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

OKAY. OKAY. THIS NEXT ITEM IS OUR WE NEED A NEW

[5. Discussion and Action to Recommend a new contract with Informa Princeton, LLC for air service development consulting.]

A INFORMA PRINCETON, LLC.

THAT IS THE COMPANY THAT DOES OUR CURRENT AIR SERVICE MARKETING.

THAT THAT EXPIRES LATER THIS MONTH, I THINK OCTOBER 21ST, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. THE CONTRACT WILL PRO PROVIDES THE AIR SERVICE CONSULTING SERVICES THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

THIS WILL CONTINUE THAT FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS, ONE YEAR AT A TIME, BUT AUTHORIZES UP TO FIVE YEARS.

WE HAVE MARTIN. CAMERAMAN IS OUR CURRENT CONSULTANT.

WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HOLD ON TO HIM. HE'S BEEN VERY VALUABLE TO US.

AND HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH AIR CARRIERS FOR NEW SERVICE HERE AND KEEPING US INFORMED OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE INDUSTRY AS FAR AS PERFORMANCE AND OUR MARKET PERFORMANCE.

DESPITE THE THE CUTBACKS FROM DCOA.

DCOA IS SUPPORTING THIS IN THE FY 26 BUDGET.

THEY'RE SUPPORTING THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT.

SO BECAUSE THEY SEE THE VALUE IN THAT AS WELL, KNOWING AND MAINTAINING THE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE AIRLINES, BEING ON CALLS WITH THEM AND SITTING IN ON MEETINGS WITH THEIR AIRLINES FOR NEW SERVICE.

SO AGAIN, IT IS FUNDED FOR THIS YEAR, BUT WE DO NEED A NEW CONTRACT THAT WILL GET

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AND THEN ALSO IN THIS NEXT CONTRACT, WE WILL DO A NEW LEAKAGE STUDY FOR OUR AIR SERVICE. AND THAT WILL WE DID 1 IN 2019.

THE MARKET HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT SINCE THEN, SO IT'S TIME TO DO AN UPDATED STUDY AND THAT WILL LET US KNOW.

REALLY HOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE DRIVING TO OTHER AIRPORTS TO GET GET THEIR FLIGHTS? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING ABI? BUT IT JUST HELPS US UNDERSTAND OUR MARKET A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

AND IT'S GOOD INFORMATION TO BRING TO AN AIRLINE WHEN WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION.

SO AND IT'LL BE UPDATED INFORMATION.

IT'LL, IT'LL GET US CERTAINLY GET US PAST THE COVID ERA, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS WAITING ON AND SHOW THE IMPACT OF THE DATA CENTERS THAT ARE BEING BUILT IN OUR REGION, TOO, BECAUSE THOSE HAVE CERTAINLY IMPACTED OUR ENPLANEMENTS. AND IT JUST HELPS US IT HELPS US IDENTIFY WHERE AND ALSO WHERE WHAT ZIP CODES OUR PASSENGERS ARE COMING FROM.

AND THEN. AND THEN WHERE ARE THEY GOING? ARE THEY FLYING OUT OF ABI? BUT ALSO WHERE ARE THEY GOING WHEN THEY DO FLY? THAT'S WHERE OUR TOP 25 MARKETS THAT WE USE FOR OUR AIRFARE COMPARISON COMES FROM.

IT'S FROM THAT LEAKAGE STUDY AND THAT THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, WE MAY SEE THAT FLUCTUATE QUITE A BIT ON WHAT OUR TOP MARKETS ARE.

HOW MUCH DOES IT LEAKAGE STUDY COST.

THE I THINK THE LEAKAGE STUDY WAS 35,000 OR SO.

IT'S NOT AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT, BUT IT IS.

IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS CONTRACT, BUT IT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE TO THE CONTRACT JUST ONE TIME IN THE FIVE IN THE FIVE YEARS.

YEAH. YEAH. UNLESS WE HAD JUST A REALLY SPECIFIC REQUEST FROM AN AIRLINE.

HEY, CAN YOU, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS FROM NOW, IT SAYS, HEY, CAN YOU UPDATE THIS FOR US? BECAUSE WE NEED SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC DATA OUT OF IT WHEN WE'RE HAVING A NEGOTIATION WITH THEM OR SOMETHING.

SO AND OUR OUR CONTRACT FEE IS AROUND 60,000 PER YEAR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IF NOT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECOMMEND A NEW CONTRACT FOR INFORMATION ON FORMER PRINCETON.

DOWNLOADED. STEVE. SECOND.

SECOND. WHO DID THE SECOND? I DID. THEN YOU DO THE MOTION.

I DID THE MOTION. I'M SORRY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I COULDN'T SEE THERE.

OKAY. JAMES AND STEVE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

IT PASSES. THANK YOU. ITEM SIX.

DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A LOCAL ON SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

[6. Discussion and Action to Recommend Approval of a Local On-System Improvement Project Agreement with TxDOT for the new Airport Access Road.]

YEAH. SO, TEXDOT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TEXDOT ON THIS ROAD.

YOU KNOW, OF COURSE IT HAS AN INTERSECTION AT HIGHWAY 36 AND FM 18.

SO TEXDOT CONTACTED ME A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING AT A WAY TO BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A A PORTION, OF COURSE, THAT IS OF OUR CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF HIGHWAY 36 AND FM 18 FOR THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT OF A TURN LANE, PAVING OF A TURN LANE, AND THEN THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS ALSO THE SIGNAL LIGHTS THAT WILL BE INSTALLED. SO TEXDOT IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO THIS IT'S CALLED A LOZA, WHICH IS THE LOCAL ON SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AGREEMENT.

BUT THAT WE DO THIS LOZA WHICH IS IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION COMING FROM CITY COUNCIL THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO CONSTRUCT WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THE CITY AGREES THAT IT WILL FUND 100% OF THE COST OF THIS CONSTRUCTION.

AND SO IT'S IT'S A VERY SIMPLE CONCEPT, BUT IT JUST GIVES THEM IT GIVES US, I GUESS, IS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND TXDOT TO DO THAT WORK WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON.

I WAS GOING TO SAY I'M ALL FOR IT.

IT'S MUCH USED TO THEY WERE MAKING US DO WHAT THEY CALL DONATION AGREEMENTS, AND SO THAT HAD TO GO TO AUSTIN TO GET APPROVED THROUGH THE HIGHER UPS AT TXDOT.

AND IT WAS A MUCH LENGTHIER AND COST A LOT MORE LIVES PROCESS.

AND THIS IS MUCH SIMPLER AND GOOD.

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SO I DON'T THINK THAT GREG AND THE OTHER GUYS THERE WERE REALLY AWARE OF THIS AT THE TIME.

SO IT'S AND IT'S NEW TO US OKAY.

IT'S IT'S GOOD. IT SOUNDS A LOT BETTER.

IT SOUNDS FAIRLY SIMPLE.

YEAH. SO IT'S THE SAME THING.

IT'S, IT'S YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT, BUT IT'S GOT TO MEET THEIR STANDARDS, THEIR SPECIFICATIONS WITHIN THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.

IT'S THE SAME THING. IT'S JUST AN EASIER PATH TO GET TO THAT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES. SO THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S GOOD. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF A I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION BY JORDAN, SECOND BY RANDY.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE AND RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

GREAT. THANK YOU. YES.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

NO VOTES OR ACTIONS WERE TAKEN DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM EIGHT.

THE NEXT AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT BOARD MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 12TH, 2025, TO BE HELD IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF CITY HALL.

555 WALNUT STREET, ABILENE, TEXAS, AND THE FACILITY AND PLANNING SUBCOMMITTEES WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR TO BE DETERMINED, BECAUSE WE'LL BE ADDRESSING THAT.

YES, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN THAT ON NOVEMBER 5TH WHEN THAT MEETING IS SCHEDULED. AND SO WE'LL NEED TO RESCHEDULE THAT.

AND I'LL WORK WITH KIRK THAXTON, THE COMMITTEE CHAIR ON THAT, AND GET ANOTHER DATE SCHEDULED FOR IT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE NINE SECONDS.

MOTION BY RANDY. SECOND BY NANCY.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY.

WE ADJOURNED AT 4:52 P.M..

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.