[00:00:01] WELCOME TO THE AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT BOARD MEETING. [CALL TO ORDER] I'D LIKE TO CALL IT TO ORDER. IT IS 332. I'D LIKE TO ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES THAT WE HAVE IN YOUR [2. Consideration and Action Approving Minutes of the October 8, 2025 Meeting] PACKET, AND THAT WERE EMAILED TO US. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? I HAVE A FEW. I'M LISTED TWICE. I WAS ONLY HERE ONCE AND CHRISTY WAS ALSO PRESENT AT OUR LAST MEETING. ANY OTHER CHANGES? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES. SO MOVED. THANK YOU. SECOND. THANK YOU. JAMES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. MR. DON GREEN AND I'D LIKE TO TO GO BACK BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THREE VISITORS, I THINK. SO WE'LL LET THEM INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, TOO, IF YOU DON'T MIND. PLEASE DO LESLIE, WE'LL START WITH YOU. SORRY TO MAKE YOU GET UP AND WALK OUT. LESLIE ANDREWS, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, BUT UNDER MY TITLE IS FACILITIES. SO WHEN WE GET TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, THAT IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR. THANK YOU. LESLIE. COLIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME UP. YOU CAN. WE ALL KNOW COLIN, RIGHT? SO COLIN IS A CHECK WITH PARK HILL. IS OUR ARCHITECT. LEAD ARCHITECT FOR THE TERMINAL PROJECT. ONE OF THE MANY HATS HE WEARS HERE IN IN ABILENE. AND THEN DAVID BRADSHAW. I'M HERE TO HELP DISCUSS THE MOVING OF THE. FORMER CHIEF PILOT INSTALLATIONS. LONG TIME CAREER. YEAH. THANK YOU. DAVID. SO DAVID IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE FACILITIES AND PLANNING SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE BOARD. [3. Airport Management Reports] OKAY, DON. ALL RIGHT. SO I DO NOT HAVE A COPY OF THE STATISTICS. CAN. YOU GIVE ME SOMETHING IN HERE? OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP. SHOULD BE. I PRINTED OUT MY OWN AGENDA BEFORE I LEFT, BECAUSE I LEFT BEFORE EVERYBODY ELSE, AND I NEGLECTED TO INCLUDE THAT PART OF IT, SO. SO ONCE AGAIN, A VERY GOOD MONTH OF OCTOBER, CONTINUING OUR TREND FOR THE YEAR. WE WERE UP 8% FOR THE MONTH OVER LAST YEAR AND UP 12% FOR THE YEAR. 84% LOAD FACTOR IN OCTOBER ON UN ENVOY OR AMERICAN AIRLINES. SO THAT IS SUPER GOOD. VERY, VERY STRONG PERFORMANCE THERE. AND AGAIN, WE ARE ON TRACK FOR A RECORD YEAR THIS YEAR ON ENPLANEMENTS. HOPING THAT THE ANY WE'VE SEEN VERY LITTLE DISRUPTION TO OUR FLIGHTS, BUT WE HAVE SEEN A COUPLE OF FLIGHTS CANCELED DUE TO THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN OVER THE PAST, LET'S SAY FIVE DAYS. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HURT OUR CHANCES OF HITTING THE RECORD YEAR, BUT IT IT DOES IMPACT IT BECAUSE THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO JUST DID NOT FLY OUT OF ABILENE OR. WELL, AND SOME OF THEM GOT REBOOKED. BUT WHEN YOU'RE FLYING 84% LOAD FACTOR, THEN THEN THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SEATS LEFT. AND I KNOW TWO IN PAYMENTS THAT WE MISSED OVER THE WEEKEND, SO. BUT OUR PARKING LOT. UP ALMOST 19.6%. THAT'S THAT'S AMAZING. OVER LAST YEAR AND THEN ALMOST 15% FOR THE YEAR. SO WE ARE ALL ALREADY OVER $1 MILLION IN PARKING LOT REVENUE FOR THE YEAR THROUGH OCTOBER, AND WE'VE GOT TWO MONTHS LEFT ON OUR PARKING LOT REVENUE THAT IS DONE ON THE CALENDAR YEAR BASIS. THAT'S NOT DONE IN OUR FISCAL YEAR BASIS. SO. AND THEN RENTAL CARS, YOU KNOW, I JUST CANNOT EXPLAIN RENTAL CAR PERFORMANCE BECAUSE WE SEE SOME MONTHS WHERE THERE THERE'S NEGATIVE NUMBERS. AND THEN THIS THIS MONTH IT'S UP 31.5%. SO IT'S JUST HARD TO TELL. I DON'T I CAN'T GET MY HEAD AROUND THAT. BUT BUT WE ARE UP 12.43% FOR THE YEAR. AND ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? WHEN DID THE HERPS START? HERTZ STARTED IN. [00:05:08] WAS IT FEBRUARY OF 24? YEAH, FEBRUARY OF 24. SO WE'VE WE'VE HAD A FULL YEAR WITH THEM. THEY HAVEN'T REACHED THE LEVELS THAT AVIS AND ENTERPRISE HAVE REACHED, BUT I THINK THEY'RE DOING OKAY. OKAY. ON TO LEGISLATIVE ISSUES. OKAY. SO WE WERE WE'RE WATCHING THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN INFORMATION AS IT CAME OUT, PARTICULARLY AFTER SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION DUFFY ANNOUNCED CUTS TO AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL OPERATIONS IN THE 40 LARGEST AIRPORTS THAT INCLUDED DFW. SO IMMEDIATELY I CHECKED WITH AMERICAN AIRLINES, AND AT THAT POINT ON THE LAST THURSDAY, THERE THERE WERE NO IMPACTS TO ABI. HOWEVER, I THINK BY THE TIME SATURDAY GOT TO US, WE DID SEE A CANCELLATION, PROBABLY ONE A DAY. THE SHUTDOWN SHOULD END, OR AT LEAST THE HOUSE IS VOTING ON. THE SENATE PASSED CONTINUING RESOLUTION THIS EVENING. AND BUT I DON'T KNOW AT WHAT POINT FEDERAL EMPLOYEES WILL BE BACK TO, YOU KNOW, ALL EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN ON FURLOUGH WILL BE CALLED BACK. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAPPENS TOMORROW. I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAPPENS FRIDAY OR MONDAY, JUST THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THAT AND HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING. BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO KNOW THAT IN ABILENE, OUR TSA SCREENERS AND WORKERS AND OUR FAA AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS AND THE TECHNICAL OPERATIONS FOLKS WHO WORK ON THE EQUIPMENT THAT THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS USE AND THE PILOTS USE HAVE SHOWN UP FOR WORK EVERY DAY. SO IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING FOR THEM. IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING FOR US WATCHING THEM GO THROUGH IT, TOO, BECAUSE WE WE SEE AND JOKE WITH AND TALK WITH THESE PEOPLE EVERY DAY AND TALK WITH THEM ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES AND SUCH. SO I KNOW IT'S BEEN HARD ON SOME OF THEM. BUT THEY HAVE BEEN THERE EVERY DAY AND THEY'VE HAD SMILES AND SMILES ON THEIR FACES AND THEY'VE TREATED OUR PASSENGERS THE SAME. SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE JOB, TO THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE NOT ONLY ABI, BUT THE WHOLE AIR OPERATION SYSTEM. SO THE AIRPORT DID BUY LUNCH FOR THEM. WE WE CATERED A LUNCH FOR THEM EARLY ON IN THE SHUTDOWN, AND I BELIEVE AND I HAVE HEARD OF OTHER PEOPLE, COMPANIES IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM TO DO THE SAME THING. SO I THINK AND THAT'S HAPPENED ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO BUT THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T HELP PAY THE BILLS, THAT DOESN'T HELP BUY GROCERIES FOR THE KIDS AT HOME. BUT HOPEFULLY THEY CAN GET A PAYCHECK BY NEXT FRIDAY. SO BUT I DO APPRECIATE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND THE ATTITUDE WITH WHICH THEY HAVE DONE IT. THEY THEY COULD BE GRUMBLING. THEY COULD BE DOING A WORK SLOWDOWN, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT IN SOME OTHER CITIES, BUT NOT IN ABILENE. SO KUDOS TO THEM. AND I'M VERY GLAD THAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET BACK TO NORMAL HERE, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW HOURS. SO THAT IS THAT. OTHERWISE, HAVING THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN MEANS NO IMPENDING REGULATORY CHANGES OR HAVE BEEN COMING TO US. SO WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK. THAT IS THE GOOD NEWS, I GUESS. SO UPDATES ON CURRENT PROJECTS. TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS AND EXPANSION. WE'RE GOING TO SEE TODAY FOR YOUR DISCUSSION AND ACTION. IS THE A BIG LEAP FORWARD IN THIS PROJECT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK. AND I'LL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT LATER. AND, LESLIE WILL TO WHAT THAT MEANS TO THE PROJECT GETTING IT. LIKE I SAID, IT GETS US IT'LL LEAPFROG OUR PROGRESS IN THAT. AND THAT'S THAT HAS BEEN THE PLAN ALL ALONG. BUT WE'VE JUST REACHED THAT POINT NOW, AND IT'S EXCITING TO HAVE HAVE COME TO THAT GREAT FORK IN THE ROAD. THE AIRCRAFT RAMP PROJECT IS GOING ALONG VERY WELL. SHAUN THEY ARE POURING CONCRETE AND THINGS ARE GOING PRETTY WELL OUT THERE. WE'VE HAD GREAT WEATHER FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND ANY. YEP. FILLING IN, FILLING IN THOSE LANES WITH CONCRETE. SO IT'S LOOKING REALLY GOOD. I HAD WANTED TO GET PICTURES FOR Y'ALL, BUT I WILL. WE'LL GET THOSE AND SEND THEM OUT TO YOU LATER THIS WEEK. [00:10:06] OUTSTANDING MAINTENANCE, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS. THERE REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING. WE HAD A BAGGAGE CONVEYOR BELT THAT WAS OUT OF SERVICE FOR A WHILE BEHIND THE AIRLINE TICKET COUNTERS. OUR MAINTENANCE WORKERS GOT THAT FIGURED OUT EARLY LAST WEEK AND HAS BEEN RUNNING EVER SINCE. I THINK MAYBE ONE HICCUP AND THEN THEY GOT IT BACK ON VERY QUICKLY. SO GLAD TO HAVE THAT OPERATING AGAIN. AIRSTRIP ATTACKS. SO AIRSTRIP ATTACK LAST MONTH WAS UNFORTUNATELY EVENTFUL IN THAT WE DID HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND A FATALITY. THAT DID MAKE THE NEWS. WE HAD A DRIVER THAT WAS DOING. ENDED UP BEING THE FINAL RUN OF THE DAY, BUT IT WAS HIS FINAL RUN OF THE DAY. HE HAD ALREADY WON HIS CATEGORY, HIS CLASS, AND WANTED TO DO ONE MORE RUN DOWN THE RUNWAY AND HAD AN ACCIDENT. WE DON'T KNOW THE CAUSE OF THAT. AND HIS CAR FLIPPED LIKE SIX TIMES GOING OFF OF THE RUNWAY, AND HE WAS HE WAS KILLED IN THAT CAR. SO VERY TRAGIC EVENT. HIS, HIS WIFE AND AND FRIENDS WERE THERE ON SITE FOR THE, THE RACE. SO, YOU KNOW, HAVING THEM, THEM CLOSE BY WAS ALSO DIFFICULT. DIFFICULT FOR THEM AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY MANAGER COMING UP NEXT WEEK TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER WE CONTINUE THAT NEXT YEAR. AND JUST KIND OF SEE IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THIS COMPANY SHIFT SECTOR THAT WE CONTRACT WITH HAS OPERATED THESE EVENTS FOR 14 YEARS. NEVER HAD LIKE LIKE JASON WANG WITH THE WITH THE COMPANY SAID, WE'VE NEVER EVEN HAD A BROKEN FINGER. SO THESE THINGS CAN HAPPEN WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH SPEEDS, HIGH SPEEDS. WE BELIEVE THAT WHEN THIS GUY WENT THROUGH THE FINISH LINE, HE WAS DOING 233, 234MPH WHEN HE WENT THROUGH SO VERY HIGH SPEED. AND, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. SO ANYWAY, WE'RE WE'RE VERY SORRY FOR HIS FAMILY AND THAT THEY, THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT, BUT I THINK THEY RECOGNIZED AND HE, HE HIMSELF RECOGNIZED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF RISK IN WHAT WHAT THEY DID AND WHAT WAS DONE. SO. ASIDE FROM THAT, WAS THE EVENT CONSIDERED SUCCESS? YES. YEAH. ATTENDANCE WAS UP. I THINK THE THE PARTICIPANTS, THE DRIVERS, THEY ALWAYS LOVE ABILENE. IT IS, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, THE BEST RUNWAY THEY'RE ON ALL YEAR THROUGHOUT THE THE WHOLE SERIES. SO IT IS AND IT IS THE FINAL EVENT OF THE YEAR. SO ALL OF THEIR CHAMPIONS THROUGHOUT THE THE SEASON COME HERE AND, YOU KNOW, GO FOR THE GREATEST SPEED. SO PLEASE REFLECT IN THE MINUTES. OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY. YES. VERY GOOD. GREAT. THANK YOU NANCY. YEAH. FOR SURE. I WAS ON A CALL WITH JASON WANG THIS MORNING. THE MAN'S FUNERAL IS THIS SATURDAY AND OUTSIDE OF DENVER, AND JASON IS GOING TO THAT. AND SO YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. OTHERWISE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, JOHN. THIS, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT ON AIRPORT OPERATIONS. PERFORMANCE HAS BEEN GOOD. THE AIRPORT ACCESS ROAD SO THAT THE DESIGN IS GOING THROUGH STAFF REVIEW WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT BECAUSE PUBLIC WORKS IS TO TAKE OVER THE STREET WHEN WE GET IT BUILT. AND ALSO TXDOT BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY CONNECTION THERE ON HIGHWAY 36. AND Y'ALL APPROVE THAT ON SYSTEM AGREEMENT LAST MONTH AND THAT THAT I FORWARDED THAT ON TO AND COUNCIL APPROVED THAT AND I FORWARDED THAT ON TO TXDOT IMMEDIATELY. AND THAT IS IN PROCESS AS WELL. SO MOVING ALONG AND WE SHOULD BE OUT FOR BID ON THAT WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. I IMAGINE IF WE GET OUR REVIEWS BACK. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING MORE THAN MINOR COMMENTS SO FAR FROM THE CITY AND FROM TEX-DOT, SO. AIR SERVICE AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT UPDATE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE, RIGHT? SO WE WERE PROUD AND HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THE NEW UNITED EXPRESS SERVICE COMING TO [00:15:08] ABILENE MARCH 17TH TO DEPARTURES DAILY TO DENVER AND ONE DEPARTURE DAILY TO HOUSTON INTERCONTINENTAL OPERATED BY SKYWEST AIRLINES. SKYWEST IS THE AIR CARRIER THAT OPERATED THE PREVIOUS UNITED EXPRESS SERVICE TO HOUSTON IN 2020 AND 21. AND WE WERE ABLE TO TO GET THEM BACK HERE OPERATING THE CRJ 250 SEAT AIRCRAFT, JET AIRCRAFT. AND VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. WE APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE AND WITH DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF ABILENE. MISTY MAYO, THE CEO OF DCOA, AND EMILY CRAWFORD, OUR CITY MANAGER, AND I, ALONG WITH OUR AIR SERVICE CONSULTANT, MARTIN KAMERMAN WENT TO VISIT WITH SKYWEST BACK IN OCTOBER AND HAD THAT VERY SUCCESSFUL MEETING THAT KIND OF CULMINATED EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND GOT US TO MOVE FORWARD. DCOA BOARD SUPPORTED MISTY'S RECOMMENDATION TO DO THE FINANCIAL AGREEMENT, THE MINIMUM REVENUE GUARANTEE THAT YOU SAW ANNOUNCED LAST THURSDAY WITH SKYWEST. SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. NOW WE GOT TO SELL TICKETS. RIGHT. SO IT IS IT IS UP TO THE CITIZENS OF ABILENE AND OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES, OUR MARKET AREA, OUR 1619 COUNTY MARKET AREA TO SUPPORT THIS SERVICE. SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO TO UNITED.COM AND LOOK AT BOOKING A TRIP ON UNITED. WE THAT THAT SCHEDULE CAME OUT THAT EVENING AROUND 6 P.M. ON ON LAST THURSDAY AND BUT THE FARES WERE OUTRAGEOUSLY HIGH. BUT AND I IMMEDIATELY EMAILED OUR CONTACT AT SKYWEST AND SAID, HEY, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON WITH $1,200 ROUND TRIP TO DENVER AND RIDICULOUSLY HIGH OTHER RIDICULOUSLY HIGH FARES? THE SYSTEM HAD NOT CAUGHT UP. THE SYSTEM DID NOT HAVE A ABI DENVER AND ABI HOUSTON. PREVIOUS FARE TO MATCH WITH IT. AND IT JUST IS. THEY DID THIS TO US IN 2020, BUT IT THIS WAY AND BUT IT GOT CORRECTED AFTER MIDNIGHT IN THE SYSTEM THAT NIGHT. SO IF YOU LOOKED AT IT THEN AND WERE SHOCKED LIKE I WAS. BUT IF YOU WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT AGAIN THE NEXT MORNING, IT IT LOOKED FINE. SO REST ASSURED THAT WAS AN ANOMALY. BUT IT IS CORRECTED NOW, AND I SHAUN AND I LOOKED AT IT THIS MORNING AND VERY REASONABLE FARES TO GET TO ROUND TRIP TO DENVER. SO BUT WE WE STILL LIKE OUR AMERICAN AIRLINES SERVICE TO WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THEM FOR GRANTED. BUT FIVE DAILY DEPARTURES TO DFW TO GET TO THE WORLD AND ON E175S. THAT'S GREAT SERVICE. GREAT SERVICE. SO WE APPRECIATE AMERICAN'S LONGEVITY WITH ABILENE AND THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO. WITH THAT ALSO. SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A, A MARKETING CAMPAIGN. WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK, HOW THAT'S FUNDED. BUT WE'LL BE WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE WORD OUT TO EVERYBODY TO SUPPORT THAT NEW SERVICE, MAKE IT WORK. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? AND JUST TO CLARIFY FOR FOR ANYBODY WHY THAT DID NOT COME TO THE BOARD FIRST, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT AN AIRPORT AGREEMENT. THAT IS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ABILENE AND SKYWEST. NOT NOT BY FEDERAL LAW. THE AIRPORT CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT AGREEMENT. I CAN HELP, AND THAT'S PART OF THIS AIR SERVICE. AIR CARRIER INCENTIVE POLICY IS I CAN HELP ADVISE. BUT THE AIRPORT ITSELF CANNOT HOLD THAT AGREEMENT AS A CITY ENTITY. THE INVOICES CAN'T BE PROCESSED BY AIRPORT STAFF BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE SEPARATION, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT USING AND WE CAN'T USE AIRPORT MONEY TO FUND THE MINIMUM REVENUE GUARANTEE OR THE MR SO THAT THE MONEY COMES FROM DCOA. THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN SKYWEST AND THE CITY, THE CITY HOLDS THAT AGREEMENT. THE DCOA DID NOT WANT TO HOLD THAT AGREEMENT WITH SKYWEST THAT WAY. [00:20:02] IT KEEPS THEM MOVING FORWARD ON OTHER PROJECTS RATHER THAN HAVING TO MANAGE PROJECTS THEY'VE ALREADY COMPLETED. SO THE CITY GLADLY TOOK THAT ON AND IS TAKING THAT ON. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT AIRPORT STAFF WILL BE HANDLING THE BILLING AND THE PAYMENTS FOR. AND THAT'S WHY THAT DIDN'T COME TO YOU GUYS, BECAUSE IT WASN'T COMING TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS AN AIRPORT ITEM. THIS IS REALLY GREAT, EXCITING NEWS FOR ABILENE AND FOR THE REGION. AND DON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THIS IN THE CITY AND DCOA. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR FOLLOWING UP ON THAT RIGHT THING TOO. YES, I JUMPED ON THAT REALLY FAST. SO DON, ONE QUESTION I HAVE. SO YOU SAID THE CITY HOLDS THE CONTRACT? YES. AND IS DCOA JUST FUNDING THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. SO THE THE THE CITY AND DCOA ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT. COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THAT AGREEMENT RIGHT BEFORE THE THEY APPROVED THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND SKYWEST. SO THE FUNDING WAS IN PLACE TECHNICALLY BEFORE THE AGREEMENT WITH SKYWEST WAS SIGNED OR WAS APPROVED. ANY REPORT ON STAFFING? STAFFING IS WE'RE GOOD ON STAFFING. AND I WILL SAY ON THE UNDER LAND DEVELOPMENT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. I HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH OUR, ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS TO GET A SCOPE OF WORK AND A FEE PROPOSAL FROM THEM TO HELP US WITH THE LAND RELEASE. I HAVE ALSO ASKED OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR THE SAME THING TO HELP US WITH THIS LAND RELEASE THROUGH THE FAA IN ORDER TO GET AND IT IS A IT IS A PROCESS, BUT IN ORDER TO GET US WHERE WE COULD LEASE AT LEAST THE, THE LAND THAT WE WOULD USE, WE HAD WE HAD SET ASIDE FOR CONVENIENCE STORE PREVIOUSLY. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS. IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT 3 OR 4 MONTHS TO GO THROUGH IT ONCE WE GET A CONSULTANT ON BOARD, BUT PRETTY INVOLVED. SO. I SKIPPED RIGHT OVER THE ADVERTISING AND SIGNAGE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT? SO DIGITAL SIGNAGE AND ADVERTISING. SO I AM I WON'T HAVE TO BRING IT TO TO THE BOARD BECAUSE IT WON'T IT DOESN'T RISE TO THE FINANCIAL LEVEL, THE COST LEVEL TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL. BUT I WILL BE INFORMING A LOCAL COMPANY THIS WEEK THAT THEY WILL BE WE WANT TO CONTRACT WITH THEM TO HANDLE THE SELLING OF ADS ON OUR SCREENS IN THE TERMINAL. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO WORK ON A THAT ADVERTISING AGREEMENT TO PLACE ADS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY TO DO THE ADVERTISING FOR THE NEW SERVICE AND FOR THE AIRPORT AS A WHOLE. SO YOU KNOW, DURING DURING THE PUSH FOR THE NEW SERVICE IN PARTICULAR. SO WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT TOO. BUT I EXPECT WITHIN THIS THIS WEEK AND PROBABLY BY NEXT WEEK, HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COMPANY TO GO OUT AND SELL AD SPACE ON OUR TERMINAL SCREENS. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I GOT ON THE REPORTS. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR. [4. Remove from Table, Discussion and Action to Recommend an amendment to the Air Service Incentive Policy.] OKAY. DON, ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR MANAGEMENT REPORTS? YES. OKAY, SO ITEM FOUR. I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A VOTE TO REMOVE ITEM FOUR FROM THE AGENDA. FROM THE FROM THE TABLE. FROM THE TABLE. SO MOVED. SECOND. THANK YOU. DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES. OKAY, SO NOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. AND THIS THIS IS THE CARRY OVER FROM LAST MONTH, AND I DID NOT HAVE THAT QUITE FINISHED YET. I KIND OF DID, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE IT TO YOU IN TIME FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT NOW. BUT THAT THAT THIS THIS IS OUR AIR CARRIER INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE SINCE NOVEMBER OF 2006. AND IT JUST NEEDED AN UPDATE, BECAUSE IN DECEMBER OF 2023, THE FAA ISSUED SOME UPDATES TO THEIR REGULATION THAT KIND OF OVERSEES AIR CARRIER OR AIR SERVICE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. SO UNDER UNDER THE ACIP WE ARE ABLE TO OFFER INCENTIVES TO NEW CARRIERS OR NEW SERVICE [00:25:05] AT OUR DISCRETION. BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT FAIRLY THAT WE COULD OFFER A REDUCED OR NO RATE RENT FOR UP TO TWO YEARS OR REDUCE NO RATE FEES, AIRPORT FEES FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME AS WELL. IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO DO AND THAT AGAIN IS OUR DISCRETION WHETHER WE WANT TO OFFER IT, AND WE CAN TARGET SPECIFIC CITIES THAT WE WANT SERVICE TO. OR, YOU KNOW, IN THOSE DAYS, IT WAS THERE WAS A FOCUS ON GETTING TURBOPROPS REPLACED WITH JET SERVICE HERE. SO WE DID USE THIS WHEN SKYWEST CAME IN 2020. WE OFFERED THE FIRST TWO YEARS NO RENT, NO FEES. AND ANYWAY, SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I ADVISE THAT WE WOULD GO WITH THIS TIME. BECAUSE AND SKYWEST HASN'T ASKED FOR IT, I HAVEN'T OFFERED IT. BUT SKYWEST NEEDS TO, TO BE ABLE TO STAND ON THEIR OWN OPERATIONALLY AT THE AIRPORT. THERE ARE COSTS TO HAVING THEM HERE THAT WE WILL INCUR, AND THE PARKING LOT INCREASE IS NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, IN REVENUE FROM THEIR PASSENGERS IS NOT GOING TO COVER THE COST OF THEM OPERATING IN THE TERMINAL. SO THIS STILL NEEDED TO BE UPDATED. WE STILL NEED THIS IN OUR POCKET FOR FOR THE FUTURE, BUT JUST I WANT TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY. I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO THIS FOR SKYWEST. NEW SERVICE IN ABILENE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPENSATED FOR THEIR FOR ANY SHORTFALL IN REVENUES THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE. SO I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE AWAY FROM THAT THE AIRPORT GO INTO A NEGATIVE OPERATION IN OPERATIONAL COSTS TO SUPPORT THE SUPPORT THEM WITH WITH AN INCENTIVE LIKE THIS, IT'S JUST IT'S NOT NEEDED. IT HASN'T BEEN ASKED FOR. BUT WE DO NEED TO. THIS IS COINCIDENTAL. KIND OF SORTA THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS NOW WITH THE RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT. SKYWEST. BUT THIS ALSO ALLOWS NOW THAT AIRPORT STAFF CAN ACT IN AN ADVISORY ROLE FOR AN MR, SUCH AS WHAT THE CITY HAS JUST ENTERED INTO BEFORE. WE REALLY COULDN'T. BEFORE IT WAS HANDS OFF. WE COULDN'T GIVE ADVICE TO A THIRD PARTY THAT WAS TRYING TO BRING IN ANOTHER AIR CARRIER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND BUT NOW WE CAN AND WE CAN IN OUR AIR SERVICE CONSULTANT CAN PROVIDE DATA ON THE PERFORMANCE AND COMPARE IT TO PERFORMANCE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, NATIONWIDE OR THE AVERAGES FOR OUR, OUR TYPE OF SERVICE. SO IT ALLOWS US TO PARTICIPATE AS AN ADVISORY IN THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH SKYWEST. WHEREAS BEFORE WE HAD TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE DID THAT KIND OF THING. BUT THIS NOW THIS, THIS REVISION CAPTURES THAT ABILITY TO DO IT. OTHERWISE, EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH STAYED THE SAME. JUST WORDED THERE. I TWEAKED SOME WORDING A LITTLE BIT FROM THE 2006 AGREEMENT OR POLICY. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. ON TO NUMBER FIVE DISCUSSION AND ACTION. WE'LL NEED TO VOTE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT. SO NOTED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY, ON TO ITEM FIVE. DISCUSSION. OH, YEAH. WE DID. [5. Discussion and Action to Recommend Acceptance of FAA's FY26 Airport Improvement Grant.] WE ALREADY VOTED. YEAH. ITEM FIVE DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO RECOMMEND ACCEPTANCE OF FHFA'S FISCAL YEAR 26 AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT GRANT. YEAH. SO UNDER THE WE AT THE TIME IT WAS PASSED, IT WAS THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW. IT THEN BECAME THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT AND JOBS ACT, THE IIJA. AND SO THEY CREATED THIS NEW GRANT PROGRAM CALLED AN AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT GRANT OR AIRPORT INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT, AS OPPOSED TO THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM GRANT. AP THAT WE WE, WE GET EVERY YEAR. SO THE AGE THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TODAY IS THE SAME TYPE OF FORMULATION IS BASED ON ENPLANEMENTS FROM THE, FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. BUT THIS IS THE LAST YEAR OF FUNDING. IT WAS ONLY A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM, 2022 THROUGH 2026, [00:30:05] FY 22 TO 26. SO THIS IS OUR LAST YEAR IN 2023 AND NO, IN 24 AND 25, WE DEFERRED OUR AIG GRANTS. IT WAS PART OF OUR STRATEGY TO CARRY IT OVER TO FY I 26 BECAUSE WE'RE USING MOST OF THAT GRANT FOR THE TERMINAL PROJECT. SO WE WANTED TO CARRY IT OVER TO FY 26. SO THAT WAY WE'VE GOT FOUR YEARS OF ELIGIBILITY TO USE THIS GRANT. BUT THE PROGRAM, EVEN THOUGH THE PROGRAM EXPIRES THIS YEAR, THE MONEY IS STILL AVAILABLE TO US FOR THAT FOUR YEAR PERIOD THROUGH 2030. SO THIS GRANT IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,856,870. THERE IS A 5% MATCH FROM THE CITY, WHICH WILL BE $214,271. AND YOU'RE GOING, DON, THAT'S NOT 5% OF THE BUT WHAT YOU DO IS YOU TAKE THE TOTAL COST AND THEN YOU BACK OUT THE 90% AND THE 5%. SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE THE PROJECT THAT IT WILL FUND. THIS IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT. SO THE 5% WILL BE THE TOTAL OF 214 271 PLUS THE 3,000,008 56 870. THEN YOU BACK OUT THE THE 5%. AND ANYWAY, SO AND THAT'S HOW WE DO. THAT'S HOW THE FAA DOES THE AIP FORMULATION TOO. SO BUT IT IS A 5% GRANT MATCH. WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THAT TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK. WHICH CONTRACT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WILL CONSIDER NEXT. AND THEN THERE IS A TELEPHONE LINE, OUR CRASH PHONE, WHICH I'M CALLING IT A DIRECT LINE TO THE FROM THE TOWER. BUT IT IS IT'S A RINGDOWN PHONE CRASH PHONE FROM THE TOWER TO THE FIRE STATION. WE HAVE TO UPGRADE THAT TO FIBER FROM COPPER. SO THERE'S A COST TO THAT SMALL COST, BUT IT'S STILL COVERED. IT'S ELIGIBLE UNDER THIS GRANT. AND THEN IT WILL COVER ADDITIONAL COSTS. SO IT WILL THERE WILL BE MONEY THAT CARRIES OVER INTO THE CONSTRUCTION, THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE TERMINAL PROJECT. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WILL USE THAT MONEY FOR, BUT WE NEED TO ACCEPT THAT. AND THEN COUNCIL WILL ASK COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THIS AWARD NEXT WEEK. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMEND ACCEPTANCE OF THE FFA 26 AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT GRANT. SO MOVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STEVE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. THANK YOU. ALL OPPOSED. THANK YOU. PASSES. YES. SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSTRUCTION [6. Discussion and Action to Recommend Approval of a Construction Manager At Risk Contract with Linbeck for the new Airport Terminal] MANAGER AT RISK? CONTRACT. SO THE CITY WENT THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. CB 2563 WAS THE NUMBER THAT WAS GIVEN BY THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR PROPOSALS AND WE GOT SIX PROPOSALS. GOOD FIRMS. AND WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO TWO. HOAR CONSTRUCTION AND THEN LYNN BECK. SO THE COMMITTEE WAS CONSISTED OF SHAUN CHITTUM, LESLIE ANDREWS COLLINS AND THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MICHAEL RICE. AND I SAT DOWN AND AND RATED. WE SAT THROUGH THE INTERVIEWS WITH HOAR AND WITH LYNN BECK, AND THEN WE RATED EACH BOTH OF THOSE COMPANIES AFTERWARDS. SO WE CAME UP WITH LYNN BECK TO RECOMMEND TO AWARD AND FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT THAT. AND I'D LIKE TO ASK LESLIE TO COME UP AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, HOW THAT WORKS, AND THEN I CAN TALK ABOUT WHY THAT IS AN ADVANTAGE, A BIG ADVANTAGE FOR US REGARDING OUR FUNDING PROCESS, TOO. BUT LESLIE'S GOT QUITE A BIT OF EXPERIENCE THROUGH OTHER SEYMOUR CONTRACTS WITH THE CITY THAT I DON'T HAVE. SO GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. LESLIE ANDREWS, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND FACILITIES. AC MARK, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK. WHAT THIS DOES IS IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH ARCHITECT AND THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY SIMULTANEOUSLY. SO WHEN WE ARE WORKING ON A LARGE PROJECT OR A PHASED PROJECT WHEN YOU ARE REALLY HAVING TO CONTROL COST AND TIMELINE FUNDING, PHASING, HAVING THE CONSTRUCTION ALONGSIDE THE ARCHITECT, WHEN THE PLANS ARE HAPPENING, THEY CAN GIVE YOU REAL TIME COST TO BE ABLE TO PREDICT ON [00:35:03] THE PHASING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN VERSUS DESIGNING A PROJECT, GOING OUT TO BID AND THEN REALIZING YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. SO THAT IS THE BIGGEST KEY TO HAVING A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK IS THEY ARE AT THE TABLE WITH YOU. THEY ARE PRICING THINGS AS YOU DESIGN THEM. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO TELL YOU THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. THIS DOESN'T WORK. IF YOU WANT TO THROW A DIFFERENT IDEA AT THEM, YOU KNOW THEY CAN PRICE THAT OUT. ALL OF THAT RUNS LIVE SIMULTANEOUSLY. AND WHAT WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD BE APPROVING TODAY IS GOING INTO CONTRACT WITH LYNN BECK. THAT WOULD MOVE ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. THEY WOULD WORK WITH US OVER THE NEXT FOUR, SIX, EIGHT MONTHS, DEPENDING ON FUNDING AND THE TIMING OF WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN WE WOULD BE COMING BACK WITH A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, A GMP. AND THAT IS AT THE POINT OF TIME WHEN THEY HAVE YOU'VE WORKED SIMULTANEOUSLY TOGETHER. YOU KNOW WHAT THE PRICE IS GOING TO BE. THEY GUARANTEE THAT PRICE. THAT PRICE IS WHAT IS APPROVED. WHAT'S VERY KEY ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE CONSTRUCTION NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN PHASES, THE WAY IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN OVER YEARS. BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP LIVE, MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE FELT WAS VERY KEY TO DOING THIS VERSUS GOING TO BED AND POSSIBLY EVEN HAVING TWO OR 3 OR 5 DIFFERENT COMPANIES TRYING TO WORK ON THE AIRPORT AS YOU'RE BIDDING EACH PHASE. SO THAT'S WHY WE RECOMMENDED SEYMOUR, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SO WHAT WERE SOME OF THE CRITERIA WE USE TO CHOOSE? I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO OFF MEMORY. I DIDN'T BRING IT IN FRONT OF ME. EXPERIENCE WAS WAS A BIG ONE. KEY PERSONNEL THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE ON THE ON THE JOB WAS THOSE WERE PROBABLY THE TWO SIGNIFICANT ONES. THEY DID HAVE TO GIVE US A COST FOR THEIR PERCENTAGE OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO DO DO THAT THAT WAS FACTORED INTO IT. WHILE IT WASN'T A HIGH AMOUNT OF THE PERCENTAGE THAT FACTORED INTO IT AS WELL. SO WE KNEW GOING INTO IT WHAT THEIR PERCENTAGE WOULD BE. BUT I WOULD SAY THE THE KEY THINGS THAT WE GRADED ON WERE WE'RE REALLY THEIR EXPERTISE NOT ONLY IN AIRPORTS BUT SECURE SIDE OF AIRPORTS. THEIR HISTORY IN DOING CMARS, THEIR HISTORY IN DOING MULTI-PHASED PROJECTS OVER MULTI YEARS. AND THEN THE TEAM THAT THEY WERE BRINGING TO THE PROJECT. CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK IS A TEAM OF PEOPLE, NOT AN INDIVIDUAL. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. THERE THERE IS A PROGRAM MANAGER. THAT'S WITH US. THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR PERSON THAT DOES ALL THE COSTING. THEY SIT AT THE TABLE WITH US AS WELL. SO THEY HEAR EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING SAID. NOTHING'S HAVING TO RELAY BACK. THEY'RE SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH WITH US SO THAT WHEN THEY'RE GOING BACK IN AND GETTING COSTING AND ASKING QUESTIONS, THEY KNOW FIRSTHAND FROM THE MEETINGS WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED AND WHAT'S BEING THOUGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE OR DON. SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGES OF THIS FOR US IS HAVING TO PHASE THIS PROJECT NOT ONLY FROM A FUNCTIONAL STANDPOINT OF THE TERMINAL AND HAVING TO KEEP IT OPEN FOR PASSENGERS EACH DAY. BUT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE FUNDING, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ALL OF OUR FUNDING RIGHT OFF THE BAT, AND IT MAY TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS FOR THAT TO FLOW IN. SO BY HAVING THIS THESE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE PACKAGES WE CAN GET THAT PHASE ONE, WHICH WE HOPE TO HAVE IT FROM THEM BY, YOU KNOW, FIRST QUARTER OF 20, 26 AND THEN START THAT CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS THE EXPANSION OF THE BOARDING AREA. THE HOLD ROOM PROBABLY MAY TIME FRAME. BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT PACKAGE FROM THEM TO BE READY TO START THAT. THEN THEY CAN THEY WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH US, NOT ONLY NOT ONLY FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO FROM THE THEY'LL BE DEVELOPING THE PRICE PRICING FOR THE NEXT PHASE. SO WE WILL WE WILL HAVE THAT IN HAND TO GIVE TO TO THE FAA BECAUSE THE FAA, FOR SOME OF THESE GRANTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER, THEY'RE DISCRETIONARY GRANTS, THEY ARE THEY THEY DON'T REIMBURSE THE CITY LIKE THE ENTITLEMENT GRANTS. AND I GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THAT, BUT THEY DON'T REIMBURSE THE CITY. THEY ARE OKAY. YOU HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THIS MUCH. AND THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF THIS IS THE SAME AMOUNT OF GRANT MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO GET. SO HAVING THAT GMP IN HAND MAKES GETTING THAT GRANT MUCH EASIER. FAA CAN CONSIDER A HARD NUMBER. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T ISSUE GRANTS ON ESTIMATES ANYMORE. [00:40:03] SO WE WILL HAVE THAT HARD NUMBER TO GIVE THEM FOR THAT NEXT FOR PHASE TWO AND THEN PHASE THREE. SO THERE IS A JUST IT GIVES US SOME A LOT MORE SURETY. AND LIKE LESLIE SAID, IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT OF NOT HAVING ONE CONTRACTOR DOING PHASE ONE THAN HAVING ANOTHER CONTRACTOR COME IN AND DO PHASE TWO, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE GOT A BUILDING THAT'S ALL INTERCONNECTED AND THESE SYSTEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INTERCONNECTED. AND OH, WELL, THAT WAS YOUR PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR DID THIS WRONG. NO. THEY HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE WHOLE THING. SO WHAT THIS CONTRACT IS SO LESLIE MENTIONED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE THE LAST PART OF THE DESIGN. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE REMAINING DESIGN, WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND PARK HILL AND SAYING, OKAY, LOOK, THIS THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO DO THIS OR HEY, WE'VE SEEN IT OPERATIONALLY DO BETTER THIS OTHER WAY. SO THE EXPERIENCE THEY BRING IS SUPER IMPORTANT. THAT IS, THEY GAVE US A PRICE OF $90,000 TO GO THROUGH THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES, WHICH IS HELPING WITH THE DESIGN. AND THEN THEY'VE PROPOSED A THREE AND A 3.25% FEE FOR DEVELOPING THE GMP. SO 3.25% OF THOSE GMP PACKAGES THEY WOULD BE TAKING IN OVERHEAD PART OF THAT. ANOTHER THING IS THEIR EXPERIENCE IN THE CITY OF ABILENE. THAT WAS THEY HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD IN THE CITY. THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON HERITAGE SQUARE RIGHT NOW. AND AND LESLIE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT AND HAS HAS SAID THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH IT. SO THAT IS THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND KNOWING THAT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE A GOOD COMPANY, GOOD COMPANY TO WORK WITH. SO THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU DON. THANK YOU, LESLIE AND ALL THE MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT PARTICIPATED IN THIS. I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK CONTRACT WITH LYNBROOK FOR THE NEW AIRPORT TERMINAL. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. THANK YOU. SECOND. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. CHRISTIE. OKAY, ON TO NUMBER SEVEN DISCUSSION, AND I'M SORRY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO RECOMMEND RELOCATING THE DERRYBERRY AIRCRAFT TO THE GRACE MUSEUM. [7. Discussion and Action to Recommend Relocating the Derryberry aircraft to the Grace Museum] SO IN WAS IT 2011? THAT WAS 2011. TOGETHER 2011. GROUP HERE IN TOWN. IT WAS HEADED UP BY THE ABILENE REPORTER-NEWS. DIFFERENT PROJECTS AROUND THE CITY TO KIND OF. I THINK IT WAS JUST KIND OF LIFT MORALE AROUND THE CITY AFTER WE WERE COMING OUT OF A RECESSION, AND IT WAS JUST A COMMUNITY WIDE PROJECT TO DO GOOD THINGS IN ABILENE. AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS TO HANG THE DERRYBERRY AIRCRAFT THAT HAD BEEN FOUND AND DONATED BY A GENTLEMAN TO ABILENE. AND WE WERE APPROACHED TO HAVE THAT HUNG IN THE TERMINAL. AND DAVID PARTICIPATED IN THAT HANGING CREW. THAT WAS QUITE THE UNDERTAKING. AND A LOT OF A LOT OF NERVES WERE WERE FRAYED DURING THAT PROCESS, I THINK. BUT IT WENT WELL THAT IN A SINGLE NIGHT WHEN THEY HUNG IT BUT SO HERITAGE SQUARE HAS, IS INTERESTED IN RELOCATING THE AIRCRAFT FROM THE TERMINAL TO A, AN EXHIBIT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THERE THAT FOCUSES ON ABILENE HISTORY AND INCLUDING AN AVIATION TYPE OF HISTORY SECTION. SO IT WILL HAVE MORE EXPOSURE IN THE TERMINAL IN, IN, IN THE, THAT NEW LOCATION THEN IT NECESSARILY WILL IN THE TERMINAL. NOW I THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TERMINAL PROJECT, THIS ALL STARTED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHEN DAVID AND I MET AND JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACILITIES AND PLANNING COMMITTEE, AND HE ASKED, HEY, ARE THERE PLANS TO MOVE THAT PLANE IN THE NEW TERMINAL PROJECT? AND YES, THERE ARE. PARK HILL HAS DESIGNED A SPACE FOR IT AND THAT HANGS OVER THAT LOWER LEVEL LOBBY AS YOU WALK IN. IT IS IT HANGS OVER THE RENTAL CAR COUNTERS AND IT'S EVEN IN THE, THE RENDERINGS. SO WE DID INCLUDE THAT IN THE DESIGN. BUT SO THIS OPPORTUNITY HAS COME UP, I WANTED TO RUN IT BY THIS [00:45:03] BOARD AND THEN ULTIMATELY DISCUSS IT WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND IF SHE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE IT MOVE. BUT THIS IS THIS IS UP FOR YOUR DISCUSSION. JUST KIND OF WANTED TO TEST THE WATERS, SEE WHAT Y'ALL THOUGHT, AND WE CAN TAKE A VOTE FOR RECOMMENDATION ON THAT AS WELL. AND DAVID IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALSO. SO TO CLARIFY, SEVEN SAYS TO THE GRACE MUSEUM ARE WE TALKING THE GRACE MUSEUM OR HERITAGE SQUARE? HERITAGE SQUARE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. MARK. I WONDERED, HOW IS THIS A PERMANENT EXHIBIT? YES. YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN. ANYONE CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. PHASE TWO. YEAH, RIGHT. AGAIN. THIS IS THE OLD GIRLS GYM. TROUBLE WITH THE BEST. WE POSSIBLY COULD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STAIRWELL. WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT. STAIRWELL THERE. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD. TAKE IT DOWN WHEN? THE PAINTING UP HERE. YES. TAKE IT DOWN. SO, ARE WE LOOKING AT ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THE AIRPORT AS FAR AS AVIATION NOVELTY. NO, WE HAVEN'T HAVEN'T GIVEN THAT ANY THOUGHT. THIS CAME UP A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND REALLY KIND OF GAINED SPEED OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS. I SAID, WELL, I'M GOING TO THROW THIS ON THE AIRPORT BOARD AGENDA AS WELL. BUT NO, I HAVEN'T GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO SOMETHING TO REPLACE IT NECESSARILY. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS ANYTHING I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING TO REPLACE IT. YEAH. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? DISCUSSION. LESLIE. JUST ONE POINT OF CLARITY. TO THE QUESTION YOU ASKED. THE GRACE MUSEUM IS GOING TO HAVE A SECOND EXHIBIT IN ABILENE, HERITAGE SQUARE, AND IT'S THE SCIENCE AND INTERACTIVE. I DON'T REMEMBER THE PROPER TITLE, BUT ONE OF THE AREAS IS AVIATION, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. SO I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE GRACE MUSEUM OR ABILENE HERITAGE SQUARE THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO ACCEPT IT ONTO THEIR LIABILITY. BUT IT'S THE GRACE MUSEUM'S PART OF ABILENE HERITAGE SQUARE. COOL. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WELL, WE KNOW THE AIRPLANE IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME DOWN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION REGARDLESS WHETHER IT STAYS. YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT'LL HAVE TO BE STORED SOMEPLACE. I PERSONALLY, BEING AN AVIATION FAN, LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING AN AIRPLANE IN THE TERMINAL. I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING ONE IN ABILENE HERITAGE SQUARE AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN INCREDIBLE PROJECT. SO I WOULD CERTAINLY. IF THE DERRYBERRY GETS MOVED TO ABILENE HERITAGE SQUARE, I'D SURE LIKE TO KEEP THE IDEA OPEN TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE TERMINAL BECAUSE IT'S JUST SOMETHING INTERESTING FOR PEOPLE TO SEE. AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE THEIR STAY AND USE OF THE TERMINAL YOU KNOW, MORE INTERESTING AND FUN. I THINK IT JUST MAKES IT BETTER. JUST. ARE THERE ANY ESTIMATES OF THE VISITATION AT HERITAGE SQUARE? THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT. PARTICIPATE DAY IN AND DAY OUT? OR I HAVE SEEN NUMBERS. I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD PROBABLY 7 TO 10 YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN NUMBERS. I KNOW THEY TOOK THE THE ZOO'S NUMBERS FROM THE REGION WHEN THEY WERE DOING SOME OF THE GRANT WRITING. I ALSO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE LOOKED AT ALL THE NUMBERS THAT COME INTO THE LIBRARY SINCE BOTH WILL BE LOCATED AT THAT PROCESS OR AT THAT LOCATION. SO I KNOW IT'S IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS ANNUALLY. BUT I COULDN'T BE MORE SPECIFIC THAN THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RELOCATE THE DERRYBERRY AIRCRAFT TO THE GRACE MUSEUM, [00:50:09] I.E. HERITAGE SQUARE. I WOULD MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND RELOCATION OF THE DERRYBERRY AIRCRAFT TO THE GRACE MUSEUM PORTION OF THE HERITAGE SQUARE, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE CONTINUE TO LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF REPLACING IT WITH SOME SIMILAR ITEM INTO THE AIRPORT. BEFORE WE MAKE THAT, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? CAN WE MOVE ITEMS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR DISCUSSION? YEAH, AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA WE CAN DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COME BACK OUT. CORRECT. OKAY. SO THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF ITEM THAT FALLS WITHIN WHAT IS ALLOWED UNDER STATE LAW TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION. SO THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS IF WE DON'T MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT AND APPROVE AND EVERYTHING WE CAN, CAN WE TABLE IT? WE CAN TABLE IT. WE CAN TABLE IT FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. NOT HEARING A SECOND. SO THERE HAS BEEN A MOTION RIGHT. YEAH. DAVID GO AHEAD. WELL WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED THIS, IT WAS IT'S NOT THAT WE JUST WANT TO GET IT OUT OF THERE. IT'S JUST GOT TO TAKE IT DOWN ANYWAY. AND WE THOUGHT ABOUT I THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE FINDING A DIFFERENT PLACE TO PUT IT, BUT THEY'VE GOT A PLACE DESIGNED, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY TALL CEILING. AND IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT THERE, IT'S. THAT'S NOT SIGNED I'M WITH ME. I'M MY. MY CONCERN IS THE CARE OF THE AIRPLANE. AND JUST BE SURE THAT IT'S TAKEN DOWN PROPERLY AND DISPLAYED PROPERLY AND AND ALL THAT. SO IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO TAKE IT TO THE GRAVE, THAT'S THAT'S FINE. JUST. I JUST CARE ABOUT THE THE DISPLAY ITSELF. YEAH, I DO TOO. I MEAN, I THINK AS A I MEAN I DO I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU, I THINK IT PROVIDES SOME UNIQUENESS TO THE AIRPORT. I'M KIND OF WITH STEVE. I KIND OF LIKE THAT THERE. AND I WISH WE HAD SOMETHING TO REPLACE IT WITH. I DON'T NECESSARILY MIND RECOMMENDING IT GO TO HERITAGE SQUARE. I JUST I THINK IT'S UNIQUE. IT'S IT KIND OF MAKES ABILENE'S AIRPORT HAVE SOME FLAIR THAT OTHER AIRPORTS DON'T. AND I, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST I'M KIND OF TORN EITHER WAY, I GUESS, IF I CAN SAY THAT. BUT I THINK IT IS GOOD IN EITHER LOCATION. REALLY. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. I JUST WISH WE HAD SOMETHING KIND OF BEHIND IT. TO COME BACK IN IS WHAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS. I GUESS IF WE WENT TO SESSION AND WE CAN TABLE IT AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE I DON'T THINK HERITAGE SQUARE IS HURTING FOR IT RIGHT NOW. WELL, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TIME CRUNCH. OKAY. JUST TO BE ABLE TO GET IT IN THERE. YEAH. BUT WE'LL DO ALL THE EXHIBITS. WOULD 30 DAYS FROM NOW BE TOO MUCH OF A TIME CRUNCH? I REALLY DON'T. I DON'T KNOW. I ASKED LAURA MORE ABOUT IT AND SHE SAID, WELL, THE SOONER THE BETTER, BECAUSE THEY'RE MOVING STUFF INTO THAT BUILDING ALREADY. SO. SO ONE OF MY CONSIDERATIONS WAS THAT IT IS, AS LESLIE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROJECTING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS GOING THROUGH THERE. PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT SCHOOL AGE KIDS WHO ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THERE TALKING ABOUT AVIATION HISTORY AND OTHER HISTORY, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO ABILENE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT EXPOSURE TO IT AT THE AIRPORT. SO I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO GET MORE DWELL TIME FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT AND, AND HAVE A, YOU KNOW, HAVE A BETTER APPRECIATION OF IT IN ITS HISTORY THERE THAN IN THE TERMINAL IT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE AIRPLANE AT ALL, BUT IT WAS BUILT HERE. I MEAN, IT IS OUR HERITAGE. IT'S YEAH, IT'S IT'S REALLY HERITAGE FROM RIGHT HERE. BUT I, I SEE BOTH SIDES OF THIS AND I THINK, I THINK THE WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, RANDY STATED, YOU KNOW, THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE IT IS WITH, WITH A CAVEAT THAT WE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE. AND WE JUST WE JUST ARE NOW LOOKING AT THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND SO I THINK I THINK THE INITIAL FACE VALUE OF THIS IS TO KIND OF PUMP THE BRAKES A LITTLE BIT. BUT WITH THAT SAID, I THINK THAT THE EXPOSURE OF THIS BEING HUNG AT THE GRACE HERITAGE SQUARE WILL BE BY FAR MORE BENEFICIAL TO US. [00:55:08] THAT PLANE AND THE HISTORY OF ABILENE. IT'S NOT LEAVING ABILENE. WE WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GRACE IN THE CITY AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I THINK THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE FACE VALUE OF THIS ON THAT PLANE WOULD HAVE MORE EXPOSURE, MORE TALKING POINTS. AND IT DOES NOT NEGATE THE FACT THAT THERE MAY BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT COMES UP LATER. WE HAVE A FOUR YEAR BUILD CYCLE ON THIS PROJECT ANYWAY. IT'S BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WOULD BE IT'S EASIER TO GO AHEAD AND PASS THE MOTION FOR THIS WITH THE WITH THE SECONDARY, YOU KNOW, CAVEAT OF, HEY, LET'S BE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING AND LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE UNTIL YOU GET FACED WITH SOME. AND IF THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE AIRPORT. AT LEAST IT'S STAYING IN ABILENE AND IT'S GOING TO GET BY FAR MORE EXPOSURE AT THE GRACE. SO IS THAT A FORM OF A SECOND? I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE WILL. WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND TO TO REPLACE IT. I BET WE CAN COME. I THINK WE SHOULD. I BET YOU GOT SOME IDEA. I BET YOU DO HAVE SOME IDEAS. I THINK WE SHOULD USE THE FIREPLACE BUDGET TO AUGMENT THIS NEW THING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. I DO KNOW THAT I'LL JUST SAY THIS. THAT I FLY IN AND OUT OF SOUTH BEND AIRPORT QUITE A BIT. WE DO A LOT OF BUSINESS UP THERE AND THEY HAVE A. AVIATION TYPE OF UNIT UP THERE IN THAT AIRPORT. AND THAT'S SOUTH BEND INDIANA AIRPORT. AND IT'S A IT'S A VERY, VERY NEAT PIECE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO US. I'M I FLY A LOT. I'M NOT AN AVIATOR LIKE SOME ON THE BOARD HERE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT AS MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY. IT'S DEFINITELY NOT ONE OF THOSE THAT YOU HANG UP. IT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE THAT'S THAT'S ON THE GROUND, WHICH APPEALS EVEN MORE. IT'S KIND OF AN INTERACTIVE THING. YEP. IT'S RIGHT WHENEVER YOU'RE WALKING. IT IS. IT'S A REALLY COOL PIECE. IT'S IT'S INTERACTIVE REALLY. BECAUSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, LITTLE KIDS CAN TAKE THEIR PICTURE IN THERE. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PICTURES, I'LL BE UP THERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP YOU. THAT'D BE GREAT. YEAH, IT COULD BE A WIN WIN. THIS WAY. REALLY GOOD. I MEAN, HANGING THAT PLANE IS NOT AN EASY TASK ANYWAY, SO THAT'S ALL. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA. WE ARE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH AMERICAN AIRLINES. HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THEIR CONTRACT CONTRACTING REP ON MONDAY. SO WE'RE FURTHER ALONG, BUT WE DID NOT QUITE GET TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE, SO WE'LL WE'LL PUNT TO DECEMBER. IT IS NOW 4:30 P.M.. WE'LL RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, [EXECUTIVE SESSION] SECTION 551.0717551.072. SECTION 551.076. SECTION 551.087. WE WILL NOW RECESS. IT IS NOW 4:55 P.M. AND WE RECONVENE TO OPEN SESSION. NO VOTES OR ACTIONS WERE TAKEN DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE NEXT AIRPORT BOARD DEVELOPMENT MEETING WILL BE DETERMINED, AND THE NEXT FACILITY PLANNING SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING WILL TAKE PLACE DECEMBER 3RD AT THE LAWRENCE EAGLE CONFERENCE ROOM, FIRST FLOOR OF THE ABILENE REGIONAL AIRPORT. WHAT TIME IS THAT MEETING? THAT'S AT NOON, 12:00. OKAY. I WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING. SO MOVED. SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY JAMES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NO ONE. THANK YOU ALL. GOOD JOB. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.