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[CALL TO ORDER]

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. CLOCK SHOWS 830.

THIS IS THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS MEETING. TODAY IS TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 10TH.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR

[MINUTES]

WHAT DAY WAS THAT? DECEMBER 9TH MEETING. BOARD OF AGENDA.

SO I'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE MINUTE APPROVALS.

MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

OKAY. THAT'S SOMETHING YOU ALL WANT ME TO DO.

NO, THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE. I CERTAINLY DON'T MIND.

OKAY. THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS HAS FIVE MEMBERS, FOUR OF WHICH MUST BE PRESENT AT EACH MEETING FOR FAVORABLE FAVORABLE VOTES ARE REQUIRED TO APPROVE ANY REQUEST UNDER CONSIDERATION. IF A SPECIAL EXCEPTION OR VARIANCE IS GRANTED BY THIS BOARD, THE APPLICANT HAS 180 DAYS FROM THIS DATE TO OBTAIN A BUILDING PERMIT.

IF ONE IS REQUIRED, A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THIS BOARD IF REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT AT THIS HEARING.

A BUILDING PERMIT MAY BE APPLIED FOR THE DAY THE REQUEST IS APPROVED AFTER THE MEETING HAS ADJOURNED.

IF THE REQUEST IS DENIED, IT MAY NOT BE RECONSIDERED BY THIS BOARD UNTIL 12 MONTHS FROM THIS DATE.

APPEALS FROM THE DECISIONS OF THIS BOARD MAY BE MADE TO A COURT OF RECORD WITHIN TEN DAYS FROM THIS DATE.

SO ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK. DURING THIS I NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN.

SO IF YOU'RE WISHING TO SPEAK, I NEED YOU TO STAND. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. OKAY. FIRST ITEM AND ONLY ITEM ON THE BOARD.

[2. BA-2026-01: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Variance Request for Property Located at the Northwest Corner of Oldham Lane and Loop 322 to Allow Two On-Site Advertising Pole Signs (Monument Signs Ordinarily Required) (Adam Holland)]

TODAY WE WILL CONSIDER BA. BA CASE 2020 601.

AND THIS IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND TAKE ACTION ON A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF OLDHAM LANE AND LOOP 322. ADAM. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ADAM HOLLAND. I'M A PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY OWNED BY WETHERBY CONSTRUCTION INCORPORATED.

THIS IS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW TWO SIGNS. ONE SIGN WILL BE IS PROPOSED TO BE 80FT IN HEIGHT, WHERE TEN FEET IS ORDINARILY ALLOWED AND 460FT² WHERE 80FT² IS ORDINARILY ALLOWED. ANOTHER SIGN IS PROPOSED TO BE 25FT IN HEIGHT, TEN FEET ORDINARILY ALLOWED, AND 87FT², WHERE 80FT² IS ORDINARILY ALLOWED.

HERE'S AN AERIAL LOCATION MAP SHOWING THE PROPOSED AREA FOR THE SIGNS.

THIS IS PROPOSED TO BE A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION.

HERE'S A CURRENT ZONING MAP SHOWING THE PROPERTY.

THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD 104. THIS ALLOWS FOR GENERAL RETAIL TYPE USES WITH SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS ON STUFF SUCH AS SIGNS AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL TYPE USES WITHIN THAT PD AS WELL.

JUST TO THE NORTH AND OTHER TYPES OF USES AS WELL.

HERE IS A CONCEPT PLAN KIND OF SHOWING WHERE THE PROPOSED SIGNS WILL BE LOCATED.

HERE THERE'S THE SHORTER AND SMALLER SIGN THAT WILL BE LOCATED OFF OF OLDHAM LANE, WITH THE TALLER AND LARGER SIGN LOCATED OFF OF LOOP 322. HERE IS AN EXHIBIT FOR SIGN ONE. YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL AREA IS GOING TO BE 460FT².

WITH THE TOTAL HEIGHT BEING SORRY I BELIEVE THAT IS 80, 80, 80FT IN HEIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. WITH THE SIGN TWO EXHIBIT SHOWING THE TOTAL AREA BEING 87FT².

ORDINARILY IN THE GENERAL RETAIL DESIGNATION THE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT WOULD ALLOWED WOULD BE 50FT IN HEIGHT WITH A TOTAL OF 300FT². AND THE IN THIS PARTICULAR PD ONLY PERMITS MONUMENT SIGNS AT A

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MAXIMUM. AS I SAID EARLIER THE TEN FEET IN HEIGHT AND 80FT².

HERE ARE SOME VIEWS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. ACROSS THE STREET THERE IS A DK LAWN.

THE CURRENT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT WITH AN OVERPASS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO NOTIFICATIONS, RESPONSES IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED TO THE REQUEST.

STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS PURSUANT TO THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL OF FOR VARIANCES STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THERE ARE NO APPARENT HARDSHIPS OF THE LAND WITHIN THIS PROPERTY THAT CREATE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP. GRANTING THE REQUEST WOULD NOT BE CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC OR INJURIOUS TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THERE ARE NO APPARENT HARDSHIPS TIED TO THE LAND OF THIS PROPERTY.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR ME. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SLIDE THERE? I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT CLEAR IN MY HEAD.

THE. SO THERE'LL BE. BOTH SIGNS ARE UP FOR THE VARIANCE. CORRECT? CORRECT. CORRECT. SIGN ONE.

WHICH WOULD MORE FRONT THE LOOP. THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU'RE WANTING.

AND I KNOW WE CAN TALK TO THE PROPONENT HERE IN A MINUTE.

I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT CLEAR. THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU WANT TALLER.

IS THAT CORRECT. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT PREVIOUS ONE FROM THAT.

AND. YES. THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE THE TALLER SIGN.

OKAY. TYPE ONE AND TWO OFF SITE SIGNS ARE PERMITTED TO BE EIGHT FEET ABOVE THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING ROAD. SO I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE THIS REQUEST COMES FROM.

OKAY. I'M GOOD. ADAM, YOU WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT 50FT, THEN 300FT².

WHAT? WHAT WAS THAT IN RELATION TO? AGAIN, I'M SORRY.

THAT IS THE ORDINARY SIGN REQUIREMENTS ALLOWED IN GR.

THE GR BASED ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR WOULD TYPICALLY ALLOW FOR SIGNS UP TO 50FT IN HEIGHT AND 300FT² FOR FREESTANDING SIGNS. AND THEY'D BE ALLOWED AT ONE PER BUSINESS PER STREET FRONTAGE.

OKAY. DOES DO WE KNOW THE HEIGHT OF THE. LOOP? THE LOOP LIKE NEXT DOOR, SINCE WE'RE ABLE TO GO, LIKE EIGHT FEET ABOVE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THE HEIGHT OF THE LOOP ITSELF. OKAY.

BUT THE THE PD THAT THAT PROPERTY IS UNDER ONLY ALLOWS TEN FOOT.

IS THAT CORRECT? FOR ON SITE ADVERTISING FOR SINGLE SIGNS.

FOR A LOCATION ONLY PERMITS MONUMENT SIGNS AT TEN FEET IN HEIGHT IN THE PD.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR ADAM? OKAY. THANK YOU.

ADAM. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WOULD THE PROPONENT PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE THEIR NAME? AND WHY YOU ARE REQUESTING THE VARIANCE? MY NAME IS GASLAMP.

I LIVE AT 2209 HIGHLAND DRIVE IN SALADO, TEXAS.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING CASES ON BEHALF OF THEM.

SO THE BIG THING HERE OBVIOUSLY CASES IS NEW TO TEXAS.

SO THE BRAND'S IMPORTANT GET THEIR NAME OUT. I THINK WE'VE GOT TWO UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN TOWN RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THE ONE UP THE CF GO UP ON I-20 WILL CONVERT IF IT HASN'T ALREADY HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS TO A CASES AS WELL.

SO YOU KNOW THEIR BRAND GETTING THEIR BRAND OUT TO EVERYONE'S IMPORTANT. THE LOOP HERE, AS YOU KNOW, MAKES A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT BEND. AND THOSE EXITS ARE VERY FAR BACK.

WE DID DRONE TESTS AND SOUTHBOUND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT AT 50 TO 60FT.

NORTHBOUND, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ABOUT 80FT TO GET ABOVE HIGH ENOUGH THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE IT IN TIME TO EXIT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE MAIN POINT OF THE REQUEST.

I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE OTHER THREE CORNERS ARE COMMERCIAL GENERAL RETAIL.

SO WE'RE KIND OF AT A DISADVANTAGE BEING IN THE PD WITH THE TEN FOOT MAX, BUT THE OTHER THREE, YOU KNOW, ALREADY FALL IN THAT CATEGORY. SO THAT'S THE REASON I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CAN WE GO TO THE LIST OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE VARIANCE? THANK YOU. ONE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT IS, YOU KNOW, ON THE HIGHWAY WE HAVE THE BLUE SIGNS

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WHERE YOU CAN PUT THE MEDALLIONS THAT KIND OF WARN YOU OF AN EXIT.

WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ON THE LOOP. TO MY KNOWLEDGE. BUT THE INTERSTATE? YEAH. NO, THAT MAKES SENSE. LIKE HAVING. OKAY, THIS EXIT FOR GAS, FOOD, LODGING AND SO FORTH, AND. YEAH. RIGHT. WHICH THEY DO QUITE A BIT OF WHEN THEY CAN.

SO. YEAH. RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE I DON'T THINK I SAW IT IN THE PACKET, BUT LIKE THE DRONE SHOTS OF, LIKE WHAT YOU COULD SEE AT, LIKE THE CLOSEST EXIT THAN, LIKE AN EXIT BACK OR WHATNOT.

SO WE CAN, LIKE, SEE, LIKE, IF WE WERE AT THAT EXIT.

YEAH. I DON'T KNOW, 50 OR 80. I DON'T HAVE THEM WITH ME.

THE NORTHBOUND ONE. IT'S VERY HARD AT ANY HEIGHT TO SEE IT JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE THE EXIT LIES AND THE CURVE.

IT'S HARD TO SEE THE PROPERTY IN GENERAL. I BELIEVE THAT BILLBOARDS AROUND 40FT.

AND SO TO GET ABOVE IT, IT NEEDED TO BE AROUND 70 TO 80FT ON THE SOUTHBOUND.

I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A VERY GOOD WAY TO SIGNAL PEOPLE NORTHBOUND.

IT'S JUST IT'S JUST TOO FAR WITH THE BEND IN THE ROAD.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME I CAN SEND IN. THEY'RE KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT INTERESTING.

YOU SAID THAT THERE'S A. OH, MY GOD, I'M FORGETTING THE WORD.

THE 40 FOOT, LIKE, OFF STREET. I'M GUESSING THE HEIGHT, THAT BILLBOARD.

THERE'S, LIKE, A SIGNAGE OUT THERE. THERE'S A PRETTY MASSIVE BILLBOARD.

BILLBOARD? THAT'S THE WORD. YOU CAN SEE IT IN ONE OF THE PICTURES.

YEAH, THE ONE THAT'S BEHIND THE A LAWN. YEAH.

YOU CAN SEE IT HERE ON YEAH, THEY'VE USED THE PROPERTY.

SET THINGS UP THERE PRETTY HIGH. IT MIGHT BE 50.

IT'S UP THERE PRETTY HIGH. AT LEAST 50. SO TO GET YOU KNOW SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU KNOW THAT BILLBOARD IF YOU'RE COMING SOUTH SOUTHBOUND.

RIGHT. THAT THAT BILLBOARD IS GOING TO HIDE ANYTHING UNDER 50FT.

WELL OF COURSE THE A LAWN. AWNINGS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

RIGHT. AND THAT EXITS JUST WAY BACK THERE. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST.

YEAH. IT'S PRETTY GOOD DISTANCE. IT IS. YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT THAT STUFF'S RIGHT AND OR HAVE IT MAPPED ON YOUR PHONE, LIKE. SAYING I WANT TO GO TO CASEY'S. RIGHT. EXACTLY.

YEAH. IF YOU'RE UP IN DES MOINES, YOU'LL KNOW TO LOOK FOR CASEY'S DOWN HERE.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A LEARNING CURVE. APPARENTLY, WE'RE ALL GOING TO KNOW HIM REAL WELL PRETTY QUICK, SO. WELL, THEY THEY LIKE ABILENE AND THEY DO A GOOD JOB.

THEY'RE GREAT PEOPLE TO WORK WITH. WE'VE ENJOYED IT. WE DID ALL SAFECO'S WORK AND THEN STUCK WITH THESE GUYS AS AS THEY'RE STARTING TO DO MORE AND THEY'RE THEY'RE A GOOD COMPANY. HAPPY TO HAVE THEM. OKAY. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. OKAY. IS THERE AT THIS POINT, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.

SEEING NO ONE, ANYONE THAT WOULD WANT TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS MATTER.

SEEING NO ONE. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PANEL DISCUSSION. DO WE HAVE SOME THOUGHTS, FOLKS? I THINK THE FIRST CRITERIA ABOUT THE FEATURES OF THE LAND, ETCETERA, YOU COULD SAY THAT THAT PROPERTY IN RELATION TO THE OVERPASS AND IN THE BILLBOARDS WOULD WOULD BE THE.

CRITERIA FOR THAT ONE WOULD MEET THE CRITERIA.

I FEEL LIKE DEFINITELY FOR THE FIRST SIGN. SIGN NUMBER ONE.

YEAH, I, I TEND TO AGREE THAT OVERPASS HAS GOT SOME PRETTY GOOD HEIGHT TO IT.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE COMING NORTHBOUND, YOU COME OVER ONE AND THEN HIT THE OTHER, AND AT THAT SAME POINT, YOU'RE ALSO MAKING A TURN. SO IMMEDIATELY. SO THAT SIGN ONE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO BE IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GOING TO BE VISIBLE AT ALL FROM THE HIGHWAY, IT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE VISIBLE FROM OVERPASS NORTHBOUND WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE OTHER A LAWN AND STRIPES. STRIPES BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'D HAVE TO BE VISIBLE FROM THAT AREA.

THAT'S WHERE THAT EXIT IS ON THAT ROAD. SO COMING FROM THAT DIRECTION, I THINK THAT YEAH,

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I MEAN, YOU DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT SIGN UP THERE. AND THEN FROM THE FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, IT'S THE SAME THING YOU'RE CURVING AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW.

I MEAN, UNLESS YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS ALREADY THERE.

THAT EXITS WAY BACK THERE TOO. CORRECT? YEAH.

SO I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU GUYS ON THAT. AS FAR AS THE CONDITIONS OF THE LAND THAT'S THAT HAS CREATED THAT HARDSHIP OF DICTATING THE THE NEED TO GO HIGHER.

AND IF IT WAS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

CORRECT. BECAUSE OF THE ZONING. CORRECT. SO THEN I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE, BUT BACK DOWN TO THE NUMBER FOUR. THE HARDSHIP OR INEQUALITY SUFFERED BY THE PETITIONER IS NOT CAUSED WHOLLY OR.

WELL, I GUESS THEY DIDN'T BUILD THE ROAD RIGHT.

DIDN'T BUILD THAT ROAD RIGHT. DID Y'ALL BUILD THE LOOP COMING THROUGH THERE? THE HEIGHT OF THE BILLBOARD. YOU DIDN'T BUILD THE BILLBOARD? JUST CHECKING.

AND HOW MANY YEARS HAS THAT SPOT BEEN EMPTY? AS FAR BACK AS I CAN REMEMBER.

YEAH. I DON'T EVER REMEMBER ANY THING ON THERE, BUT LAND USE FOR FARMING, RIGHT? AND IT IS AN AREA. I MEAN IT'S AN AREA THAT WE HAVE SEEN SOME, SOME RECENT DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THERE YOU KNOW, SOME MULTI, MULTI FAMILY HOUSING NEW APARTMENT GOING UP DOWN THE STREET.

YEAH. SOME AG EQUIPMENT PLACES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I MEAN IT'S AN AREA THAT I THINK IS DEFINITELY IN NEED OF, OF.

SOME MORE NEW ITEMS KEEP ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO THAT PLACE.

YEP I CONCUR. SO I THINK WE'RE DEFINITELY ALL IN AGREEMENT ON SIGN NUMBER ONE.

SIGN NUMBER TWO, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY TALK MUCH ABOUT THAT ONE. YEAH. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE? KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING.

THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO THE VARIANCE ON THE TWO SIGNS.

SO THE FIRST ONE THE SIGN 80FT IN HEIGHT NORMALLY TEN FEET ALLOWED 460FT² WHERE 80FT² IS ALLOWED.

AND THEN I'M ASSUMING SIGN NUMBER TWO IS THE 25 FOOT PER THAT OTHER DRAWING WE HAVE.

OKAY. AND IT IS SMALLER IT. IT IS VERY, VERY CLOSE TO MEETING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND MUCH CLOSER TO MEETING THE TEN FEET PATH REQUIREMENT. OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHY THE HEIGHT? SO CAN WE. YEAH. BACK UP TO PUBLIC. SO THAT'S THEIR STANDARD PYLON SIGN.

AND IT AGAIN WOULD FIT IF IT WAS ZONED GENERAL RETAIL.

IT WOULD BE I THINK UNDER THE HEIGHT AND UNDER THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY CHOSE THE PYLON THERE. I'M.

I DON'T THINK A MONUMENT WOULD, WOULD KILL ANYBODY THERE CASES THERE.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD KILL THE SIGHT FORM OR ANYTHING. I MEAN, TRAFFIC SLOWING DOWN THE MAIN ONES, THE LOOP. BUT THAT'S THEIR STANDARD PYLON. THAT'S JUST KIND OF THEIR STANDARD LOOK. OKAY.

BUT THE GENERAL RETAIL DOESN'T COME INTO EFFECT IN THIS ONE.

RIGHT? OR CORRECT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING TO IF WE WERE LIKE THE OTHER THREE CORNERS, THAT WOULDN'T EVEN NEED A VARIANCE.

BUT BECAUSE WE'RE THE PD, IT NEEDS A VARIANCE.

BUT DOES STATE THAT OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO ANY THOUGHTS ON CINE2? JUST MAKE IT A MONUMENT SIGN.

THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON THAT ONE. REALLY? YEAH. AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S MORE OF WHAT WE SEE AROUND HERE IS YOU HAVE YOUR ONE, YOU HAVE YOUR ONE TALL ONE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE FUEL STATIONS THAT ARE SHOWING YOU YOUR FUEL PRICES AND OTHER THINGS.

AND THEN YOUR, YOUR SECONDARY SIGN. IS TYPICALLY THE MONUMENT.

PLUS IT'S CLOSER TO THE RESIDENTIAL. YEAH, THAT ONE IS.

YEAH. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT YOU'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT IT TAKES SOME TIME.

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF, OF THIS GOING IN AND I ASSUME THAT YOU KNOW,

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THIS GROUP IS LOOKING AT OTHER BUSINESSES AND THINGS COMING IN.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT, I THINK THAT SIGN AT 25FT MIGHT AND COULD POSSIBLY BE A HINDRANCE TO OTHER BUSINESSES THAT THAT COULD BE COMING IN AROUND THERE. YEAH.

BUT FOR THE FUTURE CORNER ON THE OPPOSITE CORNER, THAT A-LINE SIGN THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS WHEN IT WAS SKINNIES HAS BEEN THAT HEIGHT ALREADY. YEAH. SO YOU'RE COMPARING SOMETHING THAT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, IS YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE ON ONE ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO COMPARE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. YEAH. SO. YEAH. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR DISCUSSION? OKAY. DOES ANYONE PREPARED TO MAKE A MAKE A MOTION? SO I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE TWO MOTIONS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS FIXING.

I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER BECAUSE THERE ARE.

THERE ARE. THEY ARE REALLY TWO VARIANCES. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT ONE CORRECT FOR BUT YOU YOU CAN PUT THEM TOGETHER BUT IT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO SEPARATE THEM MAYBE BY SIGN. SO LET'S START WITH SIGN ONE AND LET'S, LET'S YOU KNOW LET'S GET THROUGH SIGN ONE.

AND THEN WE'LL DEAL WITH SIGN TWO. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE WERE ASSIGNED ONE AT 80 FOOT AND 460FT². THANK YOU. IN BASED ON, THERE ARE SPECIAL SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THE EXISTING LOOP, AND THE EXISTING EXITS ARE FAR ENOUGH BACK THAT WE FEEL IS REQUIRED, AND A BILLBOARD THAT WOULD BLOCK IT IF IT WAS LOWER THEN GRANTING THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE CONTRARY TO.

THANK YOU. PUBLIC INTEREST. THEN THE GRANTING THE VARIANCE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND THEN WE DO FIND A HARDSHIP BASED ON SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT CREATED BY THE APPLICANT. WHICH REFERS BACK TO NUMBER ONE, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

OKAY A SECOND. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, MR. HARVARD. APPROVE, MISS RIXEY. YES, MISS. SPARKS.

YES, MR. LOUDERMILK? YES. AND THE MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, SO NOW ON TO SIGN NUMBER TWO. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT? ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE? AND WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ONE I FEEL LIKE WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE SITTING. I MEAN I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A NEGATIVE REQUEST TO JUST HAVE A MONUMENT SIGN THERE. I MEAN, MY PERSONAL THOUGHT IS, IS THAT WE WILL WE WILL SEE ADDITIONAL GROWTH IN THAT AREA.

YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ALIEN NEXT DOOR, IT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SCENARIO.

IT'S GOT A DIFFERENT ZONE. IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME.

FOREVER. WILLIE WAS A MINNOW, AND THAT WAS. AND I THINK WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THE CONCERNS IN A PROVEN SIGN ONE.

YEAH. YEAH. AND I THINK WITH, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT SIGN ONE, YOU KNOW, AT A, AT A MAX HEIGHT OF 80FT, YOU KNOW, THAT GIVES THEM PLENTY OF EXPOSURE FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS.

AND IF YOU ARE COMING, IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE LOOP, BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

IF YOU'RE COMING UP OLDHAM LANE THAT'S GOING TO AREA.

YES. YEAH. OR COMING, YOU KNOW NORTHBOUND FROM POTOSI.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT SIGN. MY ONLY QUESTION.

MY ONLY QUESTION ON THAT IS THE THE PRICING ON THE THE DISPLAY OF THE PRICING OF THE FUEL.

I DON'T THINK YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, BECAUSE OF COURSE, THE FIRST SIGN THAT WE APPROVED ONLY HAD ONE DISPLAY SIGN.

WE'RE GOING TO RECYCLE IT. THAT'S WHAT CFCO ENDED UP DOING RECYCLING THEN.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THIS ONE HERE SHOWS ALL THREE.

YES. SO THAT'S WHY I SAID IF IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER, MAYBE THAT'LL GET A MORE TRAFFIC COUNT.

I DON'T WELL I'M, I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF 25FT. IF YOU WERE COMING FROM POTOSI.

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THREE OUT OF THOSE FOUR DIRECTIONS, I'M NOT EVEN SURE.

AT 25FT, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'LL AGREE OR DISAGREE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK YOU GIVE MORE, MORE VISIBILITY, BUT HEY.

YEAH. I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY. ANY MOTION. DOES AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE I-20 THERE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE IT PRETTY QUICKLY. YEAH.

AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FOR TOO MANY YEARS BEFORE THAT HAPPENS. CAN YOU GO TO THE THE ZONING PAGE? THERE WE GO. SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT DEVELOPS IN THAT SAME ZONING WILL ALSO ONLY BE ABLE TO HAVE MONUMENT SIGNS.

WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT.

THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. THIS IS.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REJECT THE VARIANCE ON SIGN NUMBER TWO BASED ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

I SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY. MR. HALFORD.

OKAY. MISS RIXEY. YES, MISS SPARKES? YES, MR. LOUDERMILK? YES. AND THE MOTION TO DENY CARRIES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I DO NOT SEE ANY OTHER BUSINESS LISTED ON THE AGENDA. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME AND EFFORTS BEING HERE TODAY.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.