[ CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] >> WE ARE RECORDING AND FILMING, FOR GOOD? CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER. S COMMISSION. THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION IS TO ADMINISTER THE PROVISIONS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE PRESERVATION OF LOCAL HISTORIC PROPERTIES. THE COMMISSION ACTS ONLY AS A RECOMMENDING AWARD TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS OF HISTORIC ZONING. HOWEVER THE COMMISSION IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY FOR APPROVAL ON CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATIONS AND HISTORIC PROJECT TAX REDUCTION CASES. DECISIONS REGARDING CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS MAY BE APPEALED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BY WRITTEN REQUEST TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE NO LATER THAN 15 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS MEETIN. DECISIONS REGARDING HISTORIC PROJECT TAX REDUCTION MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL BY WRITTEN REQUEST TO THE CITY. CITY SECRETARY NO LATER IN TEN DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS MEETING, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM UNDER DISCUSSION BY THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION AFTER RECEIVING RECOGNITION BY THE CHAIR. THOSE WISHING TO BE HEARD SHALL APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND PURPOSE FOR APPEARING. EACH SPEAKER IS REQUESTED TO LIMIT THEIR PRESENTATION TO NO [1. Minutes: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Approving the Minutes from the Regular Meeting Held on March 24, 2026] MORE THAN 3 MINUTES. ADDITIONAL TIME MAY BE GRANTED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR. FIRST THING IS THE MINUTES. IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE MINUTES? HAVE WE REVIEWED THE MINUTES? I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS. LEGAL COUNSEL HAS TOLD ME JUST IN CASE THERE IS ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE C A -- CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AT THE END OF THE AGENDA THAT WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD. SO SOMEONE FROM THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE TO SIT THROUGH THE WHOLE WHAT I CALL HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. SO I'M SKIPPING DOWN TO [5. CA-2026-04: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request for Certificate of Appropriateness to add a Pitched Roof to the Accessory Building Located at 1134 Elmwood Drive (Kera Valois)] NUMBER 5. I HAVE PERMISSION FROM OUR ATTORNEY TO DO THIS. NUMBER 5 IS CA2026-04. RECEIVER REPORT FOR THE DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION ON THE REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ADD A PITCHED ROOF TO THE ACCESSORY BUILDING LOCATED AT 1131 -- 1134 ELMWOOD DRIVE. WE WILL HAVE THE STAFF REPORT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE. TODAY VISITING CASE CA202604. THE REQUEST IS TO ADD A PITCHED ROOF TO AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1939 AND IS A RENAISSANCE STYLE HOME RELATED IN THE ELMWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROPERTY WAS HISTORICAL OVERLAY ZONING IN 1996. HERE YOU HAVE THE LOCATION MAP, THE AERIAL MAP, THE ZONING MAP. HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST PACKET DOES MEET THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR THE REHABILITATION OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURES? >> YES. >> IT'S HARD TO SEE WHAT THE TREES BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE ARE SOME PITCHED. >> IS WANTING TO MATCH THE PICTURE ROOF, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THE HOUSE. HE'S WANTING TO MATCH THE ACCESSORY BUILDING -- I'M MISSING A SITE, I'M SORRY. [00:05:04] >> DO WE EVEN KNOW WHETHER THERE WAS THAT AT THE BEGINNING? >> THAT I DON'T KNOW. HE'S WANTING TO MAKE IT MATCH THE REST OF THE HOUSE. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THE PHOTOS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, THERE IS A QUARTER OF THE DRIVE THAT PASSES THROUGH THE ACCESSORY BUILDING, IT'S THE ONE TO THE RIGHT OR TO THE EAST OF THAT, CORRECT? >> YES. >> AND IT DOES CURRENTLY HAS. >> IT CURRENTLY HAS A FLAT ROOF. AND HE'S WANTING TO HAVE IT PITCHED TO MATCH THE REST OF THE HOUSE. >> IS IT PART OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE? >> DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL. >> WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS ADDED OR IF IT WAS ADDED? >> HE IS HERE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE THE STAFF REPORT AND OPEN THE HEARING UP TO THE PUBLIC, IF THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK TO US, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. TO THE QUESTION I WAS ASKED EARLIER IN FACT THERE'S TWO STRUCTURES THAT WERE ADDED. THIS HOME HAD TWO OWNERS PREVIOUS TO US AND THE STRUCTURE THAT'S IN DISCUSSION TODAY WAS ADDED I BELIEVE IN THE MID 70S, ALONG WITH ANOTHER FLAT ROOF SECTION OF THE HOME THAT IS ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE HOUSE. IT'S LESS VISIBLE TO ELMWOOD DRIVE. DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THAT FORWARD TODAY, THE MAIN THING IS TO MATCH THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE REST OF THE HOME. >> WHAT IS IN THAT BUILDING? IS IT JUST STORAGE OR LITTLE GUEST HOUSE? >> THE GARAGE AND POOL HOUSE. >> DO YOU HAVE LEAKS? >> NO, WE DON'T HAVE LEAKS, BUT CURRENTLY THE ROOF HOLDS PROBABLY AROUND 500 PLUS GALLONS OF WATER EVERY TIME IT RAINS. IT'S NOT COMING THROUGH BUT I WANT TO BE PROACTIVE. >> I FEEL YOUR -- [INDISTINCT] >> IT DOES. I THINK TIME HAD A BIT OF EFFECT -- SOMETIMES FLAT ROOFS CAN DO IT STARTED TO SAG. SO THE DRAINAGE IS NOT WORKING EFFECTIVELY THE WAY IT CURRENTLY IS. GOING BACK WITH A FLAT ROOF -- LOOKED AT EVEN MAYBE A TPO ROOF BUT JUST WITH THE NATURE OF THE TREES AROUND THAT AREA SPECIFICALLY WITH THE PECANS, I DON'T THINK LIKE TPO ROOFS HOLD UP REAL WELL WITH A LOT OF THE LEAVES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT KIND OF COMES DOWN AND SITS ON IT. >> SO TO CLARIFY, I'M LOOKING AT THE PLAN GOT THE AERIAL VIEW. LOOKS LIKE IT -- THERE'S A SETBACK A BIT FROM THE HOUSE. AND IT'S A LONG RECTANGULAR PLAN, IS THAT RIGHT? >> CORRECT. >> THEN THE PLAN FOR YOU WOULD BE TO ADD A PITCHED HIP ROOF TO THAT THAT MATCHES THE SLOPE AND MATERIALS ON THE MAIN HOUSE. >> YES. I PUT FORWARD KIND OF A SKETCH, RENDERING OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE UPON COMPLETION, AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PITCH THAT IS CURRENTLY WITH THE REST OF THE HELM, ALONG WITH THE SHINGLES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. >> THE SHINGLES WILL MATCH THE HOUSE? >> YES, MA'AM. >> WE DON'T HAVE YOUR SKETCH. >> THE SKETCH WAS IN THE PACKET. >> WE GOT IT. >> MAYBE WE JUST DIDN'T SEE THE WHOLE PACK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER? >> NONE FOR ME. >> DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. >> I MISSED THE RENDERING, THAT [00:10:15] HELPS ANSWER. >> CAN YOU SEE IT NOW. >> I CAN SEE IT BEFORE BUT -- >> RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. I DON'T SEE ANY -- >> IT'S NOT VERY NOTICEABLE. EVEN IF HE DID, THERE WOULD BE MINIMUM -- THE PUBLIC IS NOT EVEN GOING TO NOTICE THAT HAS CHANGED. >> PROBABLY. >> THAT'S A LONG WAY FROM THE STREET, TRYING TO NOT RUN OFF THE KERB THERE ANYWAY. >> WELL APPLAUD THE OWNER FOR VISUALISING IT. THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE CA202604. >> SECONDED. >> THE MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU. OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE TOP AGENDA ITEM. ELECTION OF OFFICERS RECEIVE A REPORT FOR THE DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS DO YOU NEED TO TELL US ANYTHING? >> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED, BECAUSE WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO IS GO TAKE THE NEXT RESOLUTION NEXT BECAUSE UNDER THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE, IF YOU ADOPT THAT AS YOUR RULES PROCEDURE, IT'S, DEPUTY MAYOR AND TRANSLATED IT WOULD BE TER, DEPUTY. SO I THINK IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU HAD EXCEPT YOU MAY HAVE A SURGEON OF WORMS WHICH IS NEVER REALLY NEEDED. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS ACTUALLY TO MOVE TO ITEM THREE AND KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE AND THEN WE GO BACK TO ITEM TWO. [3. Resolution: (Tabled) Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Approving a Resolution to Adopt the Council Rules of Procedure as the Rules of Procedure for the Landmarks Commission, preserving the Standing Committees, the Guiding Principles, and the Eligible Expense Guidance for Historic Project Tax Credits. (Kelley Messer)] >> THEN LET'S NOT DO ITEM NUMBEO DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 3, RESOLUTION. AND THIS HAD BEEN TABLED ONCE BEFORE, BUT NO BRINGING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION ON THE APPROVING A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE COUNCIL RULES AND PROCEDURE AS THE RULES AND PROCEDURE FOR THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION, PRESERVING THE STANDING COMMITTEES, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSE GUIDANCE FOR HISTORIC PROJECT TAX CREDITS. KELLY IS GOING TO SPEAK ON THAT. >> WILL NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND. >> MOTION TO TABLE. >> SECONDED. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A ROLL CALL. IN FAVOR? OKAY. ANY OPPOSED? >> THANK YOU. JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER AGAIN WHAT WE HAD LOOKED AT LAST TIME, THE COUNCIL 2023 ADOPTED THE GOVERNING PRINCIPLES RULES AND PROCEDURE AND COUNCIL POLICIES AN END THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARTICLE TWO ITS RULES AND PROCEDURES. AND THE RESOLUTION OF PREPARED, THE CITY COUNCIL SAYING, IT'S THE INSIDE OF THE CITY COUNCIL THESE RULES SHALL SERVE AS THE MODEL AND GUIDE FOR THE CITY'S BOARDS AND COMMISSION, THE CITY COUNCIL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SHOULD FOLLOW SIMILAR RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE EASE OF UNDERSTANDING AND FULL PARTICIPATION BY CITIZENS IN THE PUBLIC BUSINESS, SO WE DON'T HAVE SOME OTHER ROBERT'S, AND SOME OTHER COUNCIL, IT MAKES IT MORE UNIFORM. SO I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT YOUR LAWS AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING YOUR BOARD CREATED THE ORDINANCE ADDRESSES WHAT THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION WILL BE AND WILL DO. AND THERE REALLY WASN'T ANYTHING TO KEEP OTHER THAN THESE OTHER TWO PARTS OF THE RESOLUTION THAT SAYS THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION IS REPEALED. PART TWO SAYS THE COMMISSION'S DECISIONS WILL BE GUIDED BY THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR'S REHABILITATION AS STATED IN THE [00:15:02] STANDARDS APPLIED TO SPECIFIC REHABILITATION PROJECTS AND REASONABLE MANNER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ECONOMIC AND TECHNICAL FEASIBILITY. THAT COMES FROM THE BYLAWS. I DO HAVE AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED ME LAST TIME. SO THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED WAS SHOULD WE JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR THE TREATMENT OF THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES, WHICH COVERS PRESERVATION CAN, RESTORATION AND CONSTRUCTION. AND ACTUALLY, THE ORDINANCE REFERS TO THE INTERIOR STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES FOR REHABILITATION, AND I LOOKED AT IT AGAIN, AND TO ME IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT IS REALLY NECESSARY. HERE'S THE REASON IT'S BECAUSE THE STANDARDS FOR THE TREATMENT OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES, WHICH IS ALL FOR, THE REGULATORY FOR NATIONAL PARKS OR GRANDSON AIDS I GUESS IT'S NATIONAL PARKS GRANTS AND AID. AND THE REHABILITATION IS RELEVANT FOR FEDERAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION TAX INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE DO THAT'S THE BENEFIT THAT THE CITY PROVIDES FOR PROPERTIES WITH HISTORICAL OVERLAY, WE HAVE THE TAX INCENTIVE PROGRAM. SO YOU KNOW WHAT REHABILITATION IS, PRESERVATION IS TO PROTECT AND STABILISE HISTORIC MATERIALS, OFTEN EXTENSIVE REPLACEMENT AND NEW CONSTRUCTION. IT'S MORE, YOU KNOW, IF WE SAY IF A HOUSE CHANGED SO MUCH IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MEET THE CRITERIA FOR HISTORIC OVERLAY BUT PRESERVATION CAN BE PRETTY EXTENSIVE TO BRING A HOUSE BACK TO ITS CHARACTER IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. RESTORATION IS KIND OF SIMILAR PEER STICKING IT TO THE FEATURE OF CHARACTER AND PROPERTY AS IT APPEARED IN A PARTICULAR TIME BY MEANS OF REMOVING SOME FEATURES FROM OTHER PERIODS OF HISTORY. YOU KNOW YOU HAVE HOUSES AND BUILDINGS THAT LET'S SAY IT GOES BACK TO 1800 AND IT WAS CHANGED MULTIPLE TIMES AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE BUILDINGS THAT OLD HERE BUT THERE MIGHT BE SEVERAL PERIODS OF HISTORY THAT WOULD BE HISTORIC AND THEY'RE BRINGING IT TO A PARTICULAR TIME AND PLACE AND THEN RECONSTRUCTION OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T PUT HISTORIC OVERLAY ON BUILDINGS THAT ARE RECONSTRUCTED TO MEET THE ORIGINAL OR HISTORIC SITE OR SOMETHING MIGHT HAVE A BUILDING THAT IS TOTALLY RECONSTRUCTED TO BE LIKE THE HISTORIC BUILDING. WE DON'T REALLY DEAL WITH THAT EITHER. SO WE CAN GO EITHER WAY WE CAN BE MORE BROAD OR MORE NARROW BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO STAY WITH THE GUIDE -- IT'S JUST A GUIDANCE. THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES FOR REHABILITATION. SO THAT'S ONE PART OF THE RESOLUTION. THEN THE OTHER PART IS ELIGIBLE EXPENSES, GUIDELINES FOR ELIGIBLE EXPENSES AND KEEPING THE STANDING COMMITTEES AND THE ELIGIBLE -- THE GUIDELINES FOR ELIGIBLE EXPENSES JUST GIVES MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE AND IT'S PART OF THE BYLAWS. SO REALLY NOTHING WOULD CHANGE, WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS BE UNIFORM IN OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES WITH THE REST OF THE CITY. >> ANY DISCUSSION? >> THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT INFO. I THINK I ASKED THAT QUESTION, I DID A LITTLE DIGGING TO. I THINK THAT ALIGNS PRETTY WELL WITH WHAT WE WERE DOING HERE. IT'S ALL TIED TO THE TAX INCENTIVES ESSENTIALLY. THE REHABILITATION STANDARDS AND SO. IF THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE PRIMARILY LOOKING AT. >> I THINK ALMOST EVERYTHING WE DO IS RELATED TO THAT. NOT OVERTAKING ANYTHING BACK EXACTLY TO WHERE IT WAS IN THAT MOMENT IN TIME, AT LEAST ON THIS COMMISSION. >> I'M NOT TRYING TO MUDDY THE WATER AS A PRACTICAL QUESTION BUT I'M NOT ABLE -- MAYBE YOU CAN INSERT -- IF WE DON'T KNOW WE DON'T KNOW. BUT SAY A BUILDING WAS BUILT, AND THEN A PORTION WAS ADDED ON AFTER IT WAS BUILT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. WE HAD SITUATIONS LIKE THIS COME UP BEFORE WHERE SOMEBODY WANTED TO CHANGE THAT, BUT THE ISSUE WAS HAS THAT NOW BECOME HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THERE 30 YEARS, EVEN THOUGH THE BUILDING IS 100 YEARS OLD. SO IN THAT CASE IF THAT PART OF [00:20:02] THE BUILDING DOESN'T BLEND WELL IT DOESN'T LOOK HISTORICALLY CORRECT WITH THAT, IS THERE IN THE REHABILITATION STANDARDS A WAY TO REMEDY THAT? OR WILL THAT ONLY COME IF WE ADOPTED THE PRESERVATION STANDARDS? AND I'M TAKING THE TAX INCENTIVES OUT OF IT IF SOMEBODY CAME IN AND SAID I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS HOUSE LOOK LIKE WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT IN 1920. >> SO THIS IS JUST USEFUL GUIDANCE FOR YOU. IT'S NOT A LEGAL STANDARD YOU MUST FOLLOW, IT'S USEFUL GUIDANCE, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTIES LIKE THAT I THINK THIS LAST ONE, I THINK YOU SAID THAT PART WAS AN ADD ON. AND THEN WANTING IT TO BE IN CHARACTER. I THINK THIS BOARD HAS ALSO ALLOWED THINGS TO BE TORN DOWN THAT WEREN'T REALLY ORIGINAL ANYWAY. SO THAT'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE. I MAY HAVE SPOKEN. >> REALLY TAKING ON A CASE BY CASE HERE CAN WE DISCUSS IT AND THE COMMISSION IS SEATED AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME, MAKES A DECISION. >> THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD TO HAVE THE REHABILITATION AND PRESERVATION TO DO THAT OR IF YOU COULD DO IT. >> IT'S JUST CASE BY CASE DECISION. IS THAT A GOOD ENOUGH ANSWER? BECAUSE WE'VE HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? AND I PERSONALLY -- I. WOULD LIKE TO KEEP SOME STANDING COMMITTEES. WE HAVEN'T USED THOSE IN A LONG TIME, BUT AT ONE TIME WE DID AND EVERY PERSON ON THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION WAS ASSIGNED TO A CERTAIN SECTION. THERE WERE LIKE TWO OR THREE STANDING COMMITTEES. IT'S ALMOST BEEN 20 YEARS SINCE WE'VE REALLY USED THAT A LOT. AND SOMETIMES, IF LAUNCHER HOW SOMETHING LOOKED ON PAPER, WE WOULD TABLE IT, AND/OR THE CHAIR CAN SEND OUT A STANDING COMMITTEE AHEAD OF TIME THAT COULD REACH OUT TO STAFF AND SAY I WANT A STANDING COMMITTEE TO GO LOOK AT THAT IN PERSON, AND IT WAS ALWAYS BELOW QUORUM. SO LIKE THESE DAYS IT WOULD BE LIKE THREE PEOPLE GO AND REALLY LOOK AT THAT IN PERSON AND THEN TELL US ABOUT WHAT THEY SAW WHEN WE HAD A MEETING. SOMETIMES IT WAS PRETTY EYE OPENING. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO USE IT BUT LEAVING IT AND THE WAY WE OPERATE IT MIGHT BE USEFUL IN THE FUTURE. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO GET RID. >> I'M FINE WITH KEEPING IT THAT WAY IF WE NEED IT IT'S THERE. >> ANY OTHER THINGS YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? DO WE JUST NEED A MOTION NOW AND A SECOND AND THEN APPROVED AS EXPLAINED? AS PRESENTED? >> I SECOND. >> THE MOTION CARRIES. >> OKAY, NOW, WE'RE GOING BACK [2. Election of Officers: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Take Action on the Election of Officers] TO NUMBER 2. >> THIS IS THE CRAZIEST MEETING. WE'RE GOING BACK UP TO NUMBER 2, ELECTION OF OFFICERS, RECEIVE A REPORT CAN I CALL THE DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS. BEFORE WE DO THAT I WANT TO TELL YOU ALL, I'M GOING TO STEP DOWN AS CHAIR BECAUSE I WANT YOU ALL TO REPLACE ME, BECAUSE THE 3:00 MEETING IN THE FALL FOR SOME WEEKS MIGHT NOT EVEN BE HERE. SO SOME WEEKS I CAN BE HERE, SOME WEEKS I CANNOT BECAUSE I HELP RUN BIOLOGY LABS AND I START AT NOON AND END AT 3:00. AND SOMETIMES I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE THERE AT 3:00 AND THEN OTHER WEEKS IT'S NOT SO IMPORTANT FOR ME TO BE THERE. SO ANYWAY -- I'LL NOMINATE TWO PEOPLE. >> JUST GO AHEAD AND START. [00:25:03] >> I CAN'T HEAR, SO MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONE IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE RECORDING. >> I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE YOUNG FOR CHAIR. >> SECONDED. >> SHOULD WE DO IT -- SHOULD WE DO A WHOLE SLATE? >> IT MIGHT BE EASIER BUT I DO CHAIR FIRST. >> DO WE NEED TO GIVE BRANDON A CHANCE TO -- >> I THINK HE KNEW THIS WAS COMING. >> THAT'S GREAT. >> WE NEED INDIVIDUAL VOTES OR CAN WE CITE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR BRANDON TO CHAIR. >> I. >> ANYONE OPPOSED? >> SUSTAINED. >> NOT GOING ON RECORD. >> OKAY, SO WE HAVE A CHAIR, NOW WE HAVE A CHAIR PRO TEM WHAT'S THE THIRD? >> DEPUTY. >> OKAY. >> TAMMY WOULD YOU -- >> I WOULD DO IT AGAIN IF NO ONE ELSE WOULD WANT TO -- >> ARECURRENTLY IN THAT POSITION? >> IS IT THE CURRENT TITLE? >> YES. >> ONE OF THE BOARD'S, IT WAS CHAIR, SO I COULDN'T REMEMBER BUT IT SERVES THE SAME PURPOSE. >> I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THAT CHAIR. >> WHAT'S THE DISTINCTION WITH THE DEPUTY? >> JUST THIRD IN LINE. >> YES, I GOT YOU. >> GIVEN THERE'S EVEN MORE PEOPLE FOR QUORUM. >> I WOULD MOVE FOR TAMMY ... IS THAT THE RIGHT TITLE? I'M NOT EVEN SURE I'M SAYING THE RIGHT TITLE. WOULD WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION. >> YOU CAN CHAIR -- >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ANYBODY OPPOSED? NO WE NEED A DEPUTY. >> COULD YOU SERVE AS THAT? [LAUGHING] >> MAY BE OKAY BUT -- HAVE DONE THIS A LONG TIME YOUNG PEOPLE NEED TO STEP UP ONLY TO START RULING THE WORLD. >> WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE. [LAUGHING] >> YOUNG PEOPLE. >> JUST HOLD ON A LITTLE BIT LONGER. >> OKAY. >> AM I MOVING TO NOMINATE? >> ALL IN FAVOR OF BEING THE DEPUTY. >> ANYBODY OPPOSED? HER SLATE OF OFFICERS. >> IS THAT OKAY, MELISSA? >> CAN I GET A BINDER? >> YOU GET THIS BINDER. >> PERFECT, THANK YOU. [4. R-2026-02: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Approval of a Letter to the Texas Historic Commission Regarding the Consideration of Ferguson Hall, 2200 Hardin-Simmons University, in the National Register of Historic Places. (Mason Teegardin)] >> YOU HAVE SOME SIGNATURES TO DO. OKAY, NOW WE ARE GOING TO NUMBE. IT SAYS OUR 2026-02, RECEIVE A REPORT PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION ON APPROVAL OF A LETTER TO THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION REGARDING THE CONSIDERATION OF FERGUSON HALL 2200 SIMMONS UNIVERSITY IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. AND MASON IS GOING TO HAVE A STAFF REPORT FOR US. >> YES. SO WE HAVE A LETTER FROM TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION HERE COULD WE HAVE A LOCAL PROPERTY THAT IS APPLYING TO BE ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND THE 2200 MISS FERGUSON HALL. [00:30:04] SO THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO NOTIFY THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION'S OFFICE ON AN OPINION AS PART OF THE CLG PROGRAM ON WHETHER WE'RE IN SUPPORT OR IN A POSITION FOR IT. SO WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. WE JUST HAVE A HISTORIC AND NEWER PHOTO. WE DON'T HAVE HARDLY ANY HISTORIC PHOTOS ON THIS PROPERTY. THIS IS KIND OF THE ONLY ONE WE CAN LOCATE ON OUR END. IN THE PACKET, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT MORE PHOTOS INCLUDED WITH THE THC REPORT THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> IS IT MOSTLY INTACT? THERE'S A BIT OF A DIFFERENCE ON THE FACADE. ALMOST LOOK LIKE A SCREEN WAS PUT ON THE FRONT. IS THAT -- I DON'T KNOW. >> TO THE FRONT, I THINK IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY I THINK -- AT ONE POINT IT WAS OPEN BUT THEN IT GOT SCREAMED AT. >> SO IT WAS A PORCH ADDED, A COLUMN PORCH AND ENCLOSED IT AT SOME POINT. >> I AM GETTING THAT FROM -- I. DIDN'T READ THAT PIECE THAT TOGETHER. >> IT OBSCURES A LITTLE BIT THE PRETTY WINDOWS TOPS. >> ON THE SBR DRAFT, IT SAYS 1953 NEWSPAPER CLIP, CONSTRUCTION COURTYARD RESIDENTIAL COMMONS ADDITION. SO THIS IS THE SINGLE STORY ADDITION THAT YOU ARE SEEING THAT PIECE, THE ENTRY PIECE THERE. SO THAT WAS ADDED IN 53 ACCORDING TO THIS. AND IT WAS ENCLOSED ACTUALLY. >> THAT GLASS. >> WINDOWS AND -- >> DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER RENDITIONS LIKE ON THE BACK SIDE -- I. MEAN I'M JUST INTERESTED. >> NOT FROM LOOKING AT THE DRAFT PICK IT SEEMS LIKE THE FOOTPRINT NOW IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHATEVER IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT. IT WAS -- >> THAT'S PRETTY. >> THE ENCLOSURE IS ON THERE. >> YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT. >> I LOOKED AT IT PRETTY EXTENSIVELY IN THE PACKET. YOU KNOW, AND TIME, PARTS AND ADDITIONS BECOME HISTORICAL PARTS OF THE BUILDING, I GUESS I DIDN'T SEE ANY REASON WHY IT WOULDN'T BE. >> I AM IN FULL SUPPORT, SOMETHING GOOD IN ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WITH ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS OR ANYTHING? MASON, DID YOU WRITE A LETTER AND DOES THE CHAIR SIGN IT? OR DO YOU WORK TOGETHER WITH THE CHAIR TO DRAFT A LETTER? HOW DOES IT WORK? >> WE DRAFTED THE RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT AND WE GAVE THE REASONING FOR THE SUPPORT AS IT POSSESSES SIGNIFICANT WITH RESPECT TO HISTORY CULTURE AND ARCHITECTURE. IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH EVENTS MADE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE BROAD PATTERNS OF LOCAL HISTORY EMBODIES CHARACTERISTIC DISTINCT TO A TYPE. OF METHOD OR CONSTRUCTION ARCHITECTURE AND IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE LIVES OF PERSONS SIGNIFICANT IN THE LOCAL REGION AND REPRESENTS THE WORK OF A MASTER DESIGNER ARCHITECT BUILDER CRAFTSMAN. SO THAT WAS OUR REASONING FOR APPROVAL. SO IN THE PACKET THERE WAS A RESOLUTION. IF YOU'RE ALL IN SUPPORT OF WHAT WAS SAID IN THE RESOLUTION, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD SIGN AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD PROVIDE TO THEM. >> JUST THE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS ON. >> THE CHAIR. >> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> NONE FOR ME. >> NO. >> SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> PUBLIC MOTION THAT WE APPROVE OF LETTER TO THE -- >> , I'M SORRY, I WAS LOOKING DOWN HERE AT WHAT IT WAS CALLED. REGARDING OUR-2026-02, I MAKE A [00:35:11] MOTION THAT WE APPROVE FOR A LETTER TO THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION, REGARDING THE CONSIDERATION OF FERGUSON HALL TO BE INCLUDED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. >> I SECOND. >> MR. YOUNG. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.