[ CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:06] >> ALL RIGHT. IT'S 8:30. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THIS MEETING OF BUILDING STANDARDS FOR MAY 6, 2026. ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO TODAY'S CASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU SIGNED IN AT THE DOOR. THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SWEAR YOU IN. IF YOU'LL RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. WE'LL DO THE STATEMENT OF POLICY. ALL CASES WHERE SPECIFICALLY STATED OTHERWISE, BUILDINGS MUST BE SECURED AND THE LAWN CLEAN AND MOWED BY THE OWNER WITHIN TEN DAYS OF RECEIPT OF NOTICE OF RESULTS OF THIS HEARING. IF THIS IS NOT DONE, THE CITY MAY DO SO AND BILL THE OWNER. IN ANY CASE, WHERE THE BOARD ORDERS THE OWNER TO DEMOLISH A STRUCTURE OR STRUCTURES BUT THE OWNER FAILED TO DEMOLISH OR APPEAL THE BOARD'S ORDER THE CITY THEY DEMOLISH. ANY APPEAL MUST BE FILED IN DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 CALENDAR DAYS AFTER THE AGREED PARTY RECEIVES NOTICE OF THE BOARD'S DECISION. YOU SHOULD BE PREPARED TO PRESENT THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION. SPECIFIC TIME FRAME NEEDED TO COMPLETE REPAIRS, SPECIFIC SCOPE OF REPAIR WORK TO BE COMPLETED, COST ESTIMATES FOR WORK TO BE DONE BY LICENSED, BONDED CONTRACTORS SUCH AS ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING OR HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING CONTRACTORS. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO REPRESENT YOU AT THE HEARING. RIGHT TO INSPECT THE FILE ON THE PROPERTY AT THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PRIOR TO THE HEARING AND THE RIGHT TO REQUEST THE PRESENCE OF CITY STAFF FOR THE PURPOSE OF QUESTIONING AT THE HEARING. ALL RIGHT. [ MINUTES] WITH THAT WE'RE READY FOR OUR FIRST CASE. THE MINUTES, YES. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. IN YOUR PACKET, WE HAVE LAST MONTH'S MEETING MINUTES. IS THERE A -- LET'S SEE. I NEED TO -- DO I NEED TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION? >> YES, SIR, OPEN THE FLOOR >> WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANY CHANGES? SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE MINUTES. AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION >> I MOVE THE MINUTES BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND >> ALL RIGHT. WE GOT A MOTION BY MR. ALLRED, SECOND BY MR. MCNEILL. >> MOTION PASSED. >> ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'RE READY FOR OUR FIRST CASE. [A. Case for Rehabilitation, Demolition, or Civil Penalties - Case #21-003191: 2333 N. Mockingbird Ln (WOODLAND ADDN 2ND FILING, BLOCK 5, LOT 43, TAYLOR COUNTY, TEXAS), Owner: Ortiz, Mauro Antonio] I WAS JUMPING THE GUN A LITTLE BIT >> WELCOME BACK. >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD. RICKY RICE PROPERTY MANAGER INSPECTOR FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE. TODAY WE WILL BE PRESENTING SIX CASES. I WILL DO THE FIRST FIVE. HERE'S THE PUBLIC NOTICE THAT WAS POSTED AND SENT. THE FIRST CASE IS GONNA BE CASE 21-003191 AT 2333 NORTH MOCKINGBIRD LANE. CHECK LIST SHOWS THE OWNER TO BE MAURO ANTONIO ORTIZ. AND THE UTILITIES HAVE BEEN INACTIVE SINCE JULY 31ST OF 2020. THIS IS THE PUBLIC NOTICE THAT WAS POSTED. THIS IS THE FRONT WEST SIDE. THE REAR EAST SIDE. NORTH SIDE. AND SOUTH SIDE. SUBSTANDARD CODE VIOLATIONS ARE INADEQUATE SANITATION, NUISANCE, HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL WIRING, HAZARDOUS PLUMBING, HAZARDOUS MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AND FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION. THIS WAS BACK IN 2021 WHEN WE FIRST TOOK THE PLACE. THIS WAS THE YEAR LATER. THESE ARE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS. THERE HAS BEEN QUITE A BIT DONE. TIMELINE DECEMBER 14TH OF 21. AFFIDAVIT OF CONDEMNATION WAS RECORDED AT THE COUNTY CLERK, MAY 31ST OF 2022. STARTED WITH THE LIEN HOLDER TO GET THE PROJECT MOVING. DECEMBER 14, 2022 THE ALTERATION PERMIT WAS ISSUED. ON SEPTEMBER 6TH OF '23 THE BOARD ORDERED 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN ROUGH-INS. ON JANUARY 3RD OF '24, BOARD [00:05:04] ORDERED 30 DAYS TO OBTAIN ROUGH-INS AND ALL FINAL EXPECT SHUNS BEFORE THE EXPIRATION OF ALL PERMITS. AUGUST 31 OF '25 THE ALTERATION PERMIT EXPIRED WITH SEVEN INSPECTIONS NOT COMPLETED. NOVEMBER 24TH OF '25 A CRIMINAL COMPLAINT WAS FILED WITH THE MUNICIPAL COURT FOR OWNER'S FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S ORDER. JANUARY 23RD OF '26 ATTEMPTED TO REACH OUT TO THE OWNER THROUGH E-MAIL TO INFORM HIM WHAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED. FEBRUARY 20TH OF '26, OBSERVED OWNER HAS COMPLETED EBBING TIER KWROR WORK TO THE STRUCTUE, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN AN UPDATE TO THE ALTERATIONS PERMIT. PERMIT HAS BEEN EXPIRED SINCE AUGUST OF '25. SEVEN INSPECTIONS ARE STILL LEFT TO BE COMPLETED. MARCH 31ST OF '26, SPOKE WITH THE LIENHOLDER, DECIDED TO PULL THE PROPERTY FROM THE AGENDA THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE FOR APRIL. APRIL 1ST OF '26, PRIOR TO THE HEARING, SPOKE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHO WAS PRESENT AT THE HEARING, EXPLAINING WHAT IS STILL REQUIRED OF HIM, RECOMMENDED WHILE HE IS AT CITY HALL TO GET, GO TO PERMITTING AND EXTEND HIS PERMIT. HE DID NOT DO THAT. PROPERTY WAS REMOVED FROM THAT MONTH'S AGENDA. APRIL 10TH OF '26 NOTICE OF MAY HEARING WAS SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND LIENHOLDER. DISCOVERED THERE IS NO LONGER A LIENHOLDER. APRIL 13 OF '26 NOTICE OF THE MAY HEARING WAS POSTED ON THE STRUCTURE. PROPERTY STILL DOESN'T HAVE AN ACTIVE PERMIT. THE OWNER WAS HERE YESTERDAY LOOKING INTO THAT, EXTENDING THE PERMIT AND HE IS HERE TODAY TO SPEAK AS WELL. STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME IS TO ORDER THE OWNER TO REPAIR. OWNER IS ORDERED TO REINSTATE THE ALTERATIONS PERMIT. IF THIS IS DONE, 60 DAYS TO COMPLETE INSTALLATION -- OR INSULATION INSPECTION AND REMAINING TRADE INSPECTIONS. IF THAT IS DONE 30 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE FINAL BUILDING INSPECTION. AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> THE PERMITS NEED TO BE COMPLETED ON ELECTRICAL PLUMBING. ARE THE ROUGH-INS ALREADY? WE'RE WAITING ON FINALS? >> WE'RE WAITING ON THE INSULATION INSPECTION. WE'RE WAITING ON THE GAS METER RELEASE, ELECTRICAL FINAL, MECHANICAL FINAL, PLUMBING FINAL AND THE FINAL BUILDING INSPECTION >> WHAT INSPECTION DOSS WE HAVE? >> WE HAVE ALL THE ROUGH-INS. I DON'T HAVE THE FULL LIST. BUT WE HAVE FRAMING, SHOWER PAN, ALL THE ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING, MECHANICAL ROUGH-INS ARE COMPLETE >> ROUGH-INS ARE DONE >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I WILL OPEN THE CASE NUMBER 21-003191 PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> TONY ORTIZ. I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DONE. WE'RE ABOUT 90% DONE ON THE PROJECT. THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE LACKING ON THE INSIDE IS CABINETS. AND THEN EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH CABINETRY, TYING IN OUR ELECTRICAL THAT GOES AROUND IT AND PLUMING THAT GOES AROUND IT. ALL OF OUR HVAC, ALL OF THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH, WE CAN CALL FINALS ON THAT AT ANY TIME. BUT THE ONLY THING WE HAVE BEEN HOLDING BACK ON WERE THE PCABIN FINALS ON ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING. I WAS HERE AT THE LAST MEETING AND I JUST FORGOT. I TALKED TO HIM. I GOT IN MY TRUCK. I WAS GONNA DRIVE AROUND. I JUST STARTED THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE AND I JUST DROVE AWAY AND I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT IT UNTIL HE, MARSHALL REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT THE PERMITS. I JUST WAS GOING 100 MILES AN HOUR IN SOME OF THIS. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE'RE AT. I WOULD SAY ABOUT 90% DONE ON THE PROJECT. OUR CABINETS ARE THE ON THING WE'RE LACKING TO WRAP IT UP. >> DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET THAT DONE IN 60 DAYS? >> YES, SIR. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE 21-003191. AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR OPEN FOR DISCUSSION, OR A MOTION. >> I MOTION WE GO WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. >> ALL RIGHT. WE GOT A MOTION BY M MR. TANKERSLEY TO RECOMMEND STAFF RECOMMENDATION >> I'LL SECOND >> SECOND BY MR. DUNCAN. ROLE CALL, PLEASE >> MR. WYATT >> YES >> MR. ALLRED >> YES [00:10:01] >> MR. TANKERSLEY >> YES >> MR. MCNEIL >> YES >> MR. DUNCAN >> YES >> MR. MCBRAYER >> YES >> ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSED >> NEXT CASE, PLEASE. >> NEXT CASE IS CASE NUMBER [B. Case for Rehabilitation, Demolition, or Civil Penalties - Case #24-001274:742 N 13th St (W105 W140 S100 201 2 W1/2 C MC NAIRY OT ABL, TAYLOR COUNTY, TEXAS), Owner: Dela Garza ​Jessica T] 24-001274 AT 742 NORTH 13TH STREET. THE UTILITIES SHOW INACTIVE SINCE JULY 7TH OF 2023. AND THE SEARCH REVEALS JESSICA T.DE LA GARZA TO BE THE OWNER. THIS IS THE PUBLIC NOTICE THAT WAS POSTED. FRONT SOUTH SIDE. REAR NORTH SIDE. EAST SIDE. AND WEST SIDE. SUBSTANDARD CODE VIOLATIONS, INADEQUATE SANITATION, STRUCTURAL HAZARDS, NUISANCE, HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL WIRING, HAZARDOUS PLUMBING, HAZARDOUS MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AND FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION. HERE'S SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL AND PLUMBING ISSUES. HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL. INADEQUATE SANITATION. TIMELINE, ON APRIL 19TH OF '24, INSPECTION WAS REQUESTED BY THE CONSTABLES. THEY FOUND POOR CONDITIONS INSIDE THE HOME WHEN THEY WERE PERFORMING THE POSSESSION. ONER WAS CONTACTED WHILE ON SCENE AND EXPLAINED THE CONDEMNATION. OWNER SECURED THE HOUSE. ON APRIL 24TH OF 2024, AFFIDAVIT OF CONDEMNATION WAS RECORDED AT THE COUNTY CLERK. ON MAY 1ST OF '24, CONDEMNATION NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE OWNER. ON DECEMBER 30TH OF '25, WE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT OF A BREAK-IN. JANUARY 5TH OF '26, WE INSPECTED THE PROPERTY. DURING INSPECTION A VAGRANT WAS FOUND INSIDE THE HOME. HE LEFT WHILE WE WERE ON SCENE. THEN WE CLEARED THE HOUSE AND SECURED THE DOOR AND STORM SHELTER. NEIGHBORS STOPPED BY AND TOLD US THERE HAD BEEN SEVERAL VAGRANTS STAYING IN THE HOUSE AND YARD. DURING INSPECTION, FOUND INTERIOR TO BE IN MUCH WORSE SHAPE THAN IT WAS WHEN THE CONSTABLES WERE REMOVING THE LAST TENANTS. ONE AREA OF THE HOUSE LOOKED TO BE PARTIALLY BURNED. PLUMBING IS MISSING. LACKS PROPER SANITATION. JANUARY 16 OF '26 RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM THE OWNER. HE IS UNSURE WHETHER THEY WILL REPAIR OR SELL THE PROPERTY. RESENT THE OWNER A 30/60 PLAN OF ACTION WORKSHEET. JANUARY 20TH OF '26 THE CITY SECURED THE FRONT DOOR OF THE HOUSE. JANUARY 22ND OF '26, THE FRONT DOOR WAS OPEN AGAIN. WE EXECUTED A CODE INSPECTION WARRANT. EVIDENCE OF VAGRANT ACTIVITY WAS FOUND INSIDE. RESECURED THE FRONT DOOR. FEBRUARY 4TH OF '26 THE BOARD ORDERED A 30/60. AFTER THE HEARING, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE PROPERTY IS ZONED HEAVY COMMERCIAL. OWNER WAS IMMEDIATELY INFORMED THAT HE WOULD NEED TO BRING THE PROPERTY TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS FOR APPROVAL TO CONTINUE USE AS RESIDENTIAL. PROVIDE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR ZONING SO THEY COULD START THE PROCESS TO GO TO THE BOARD. MARCH 2ND OF '26, THE PROPERTY WAS UNSECURED AGAIN. THE OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED. PROPERTY WAS SECURED BY THE OWNERS TWO WEEKS LATER. MARCH 4TH OF '26, INCOMPLETE PLAN OF ACTION WAS SUBMITTED. OWNER WAS NOTIFIED WHAT IS STILL NEEDED. APRIL 8TH OF '26, PROPERTY OWNER HAS NOT SUBMITTED A COMPLETE PLAN OF ACTION AND HAS NOT CONTACTED ZONING ABOUT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. APRIL 10TH OF '26, NOTICE OF THE MAY HEARING WAS POSTED ON THE STRUCTURE AND APRIL 13TH OF '26 NOTICE OF THE MAY HEARING WAS SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO FIND THAT THE PROPERTY IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND THAT IT IS A HAZARD TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE AND REPAIR OF THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE UNREASONABLE AND ORDER, THE OWNER IS ORDERED TO DEMOLISH OR APPEAL TO DISTRICT COURT WHEN 30 DAYS OR THE CITY MAY DEMOLISH. AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'LL OPEN CASE NUMBER 25-001890 TO THE PUBLIC. ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME. >> GOOD MORNING, YOUR HONOR >> WE WENT BEFORE YOU ALL BEFORE [00:15:08] A FEW MONTHS BACK TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW TO REPAIR THIS PROPERTY OR TAKE CARE OF IT, OR GO FURTHER WITH IT. WE DID RECEIVE INFORMATION ABOUT IT IT WAS ZONED HEAVILY COMMERCIAL, WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT. SO WE REACHED OUT TO A LADY, KYRA. SENT AN E-MAIL. SHE SENT AN E-MAIL BACK. WE SENT HER ANOTHER. SENT SOME INFORMATION TO THE MAN HERE WITH SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU ASKED FOR WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST. SINCE THEN I CAME IN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. FINALLY WENT BACK AND PUT LOCKS AND SOME OTHER STUFF ON THERE. WE PASS BY THERE, LOOKS LIKE IT'S STILL SECURE. WE'RE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT WE CAN OR CANNOT DO. IS IT GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL OR ARE Y'ALL ASKING US TO MAKE IT A STORE? WHAT CAN BE DONE ON THE PROPERTY? SHOULD WE SELL IT AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? WE'RE JUST NOT SURE HOW TO NAVIGATE THIS AT THIS POINT. >> SO THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, ZONED HEAVILY COMMERCIAL. YOU WOULD HAVE TO -- IF YOU WANTED TO USE IT AS RESIDENTIAL YOU'D HAVE TO GET IT REZONED AS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. >> CAN I PUT A REQUEST TO THE BOARD OR CITY SAYING, OKAY, CAN BE OR CANNOT BE? >> RIGHT >> WE WON'T KNOW THE ANSWER UNTIL THEY LOOK FURTHER INTO IT? >> CORRECT >> SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THAT AREA. DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THAT AS WELL? >> JUST DEPENDS ON WHATEVER THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT DECIDES. >> ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE TO THE BOARD TODAY IS, WHAT DOES THE CITY OR COUNTY DOING ABOUT THE VAGRANTS? WHEN WE DO TRY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS OR, LIKE I SAID, EVEN SECURE IT. WHEN THE GENTLEMAN SECURED IT FOUR TIMES. THESE GUYS ARE PRETTY DETERMINED TO GET IN THERE. IN OUR EYES, WE WANT TO REPAIR IT AND MAKE IT LIVEABLE AGAIN. IT WAS LIVEABLE UNTIL THE VAGRANTS DESTROYED IT. HOW DO WE GET AHEAD OF THAT? WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THAT? HOW DOES THE COUNTY OR CITY HELP US KEEP THE VAGRANTS OUT? AS WE'RE REPAIRING IT AND IT'S APPROVED >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN -- YOU JUST GOT TO KEEP GOING OVER THERE AND CHECKING IT AND KICKING THEM OUT AND GET THE POLICE INVOLVED. REALLY AND TRULY, ONCE YOU START WORKING ON THE PROPERTY, THEY'LL GO AWAY. BUT UNTIL THEN, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A FIGHT >> AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME. OUR NEIGHBORS, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THEM THAT ARE STILL FIGHTING THE VAGRANTS. THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REMODELING. KNOCKING OUT WINDOWS, BREAKING IN. SOON SOMEBODY MOVES OUT OR IN. IT'S AN ON GOING PROBLEM. OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL KNOW IT'S GOING ON, RIGHT? >> I WOULD REACH OUT TO THE POLICE FORCE AND JUST HAVE THEM PATROL MORE AND MORE. IF YOU GET MORE NEIGHBORS CALLING, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE FIRST STEP. REALLY DOING SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY WILL REALLY START. I WOULD GET WITH THE CITY AND THEN THE ZONING THING AND WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO WITH IT >> IS THERE SOMEBODY WE CAN VISIT WITH IN PERSON? IS THERE SOMEBODY WE CAN GO TO TODAY? >> THAT'S A QUESTION FOR MR. MARSH >> YES, SIR. YOU CAN GO DOWN TO PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING. GO ASK FOR KYRA, THE ONE YOU TALKED TO. LET THEM KNOW YOU WANT TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. THAT'S THE FIRST PLACE TO START. YOU CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW >> WE'LL DO THAT THIS MORNING. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD BY ANY MEANS. IT'S A FINANCIAL -- JUST PAYING THE TAXES. TODAY WE LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY. WE'RE GONNA GET IT ALL CLEANED UP. I'M TRYING TO KEEP THE GRASS UP. EVERY TWO, THREE MONTHS WE TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THAT SO IT WON'T BE SUCH AN EYE SORE. I DO KNOW THAT IT'S MORE THAN THE EYE SORE PART, IT'S JUST NOT LIVEABLE. IT'S UNSAFE. LIKE I SAID, IT IS LOCKED DOWN PRETTY WELL. SEEMS LIKE NOBODY'S BEEN MESSING WITH IT. I'M ASSUMING IT'S ONLY MATTER OF TIME. SO WE'LL VISIT WITH THESE FOLKS DOWNSTAIRS AND TRY TO MAKE THE BEST JUDGMENT WE CAN AT THIS POINT WITH WHAT WE CAN DO. FINANCIALLY, JUST TO POUR MONEY INTO EVERY MONTH AND HAVE IT DESTROYED. DO I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN WE PUT A -- >> I DON'T KNOW >> NOT ON THE EGRESS. I MISSPOKE. THE BOARD HAS NOT MADE A DECISION YET. SO DEPENDING ON WHAT THE BOARD'S DECISION IS, IF THEY RECOMMEND DEMOLITION, THEN THERE'S A PROCESS TO APPEAL. IF THEY DECIDE SOMETHING ELSE FOR YOU, THEN YOU CAN GO DOWN TO PLANNING >> I UNDERSTAND, SIR. >> DOES THE PROPERTY HAVE TO BE REZONED TO PULL A PERMIT? >> NO. [00:20:06] ONCE UPON A TIME THAT WAS RESIDENTIAL AREA, OKAY. AND OVER TIME, IT CHANGED BECAUSE OF THE PROGRESSION OF HEAVY COMMERCIAL IN THAT AREA. AND THAT HOUSE JUST HAPPENED TO REMAIN, OKAY. SO NOW IT IS A RESIDENT IN A HEAVY COMMERCIAL AREA, OR ZONING, OKAY? SO IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO USE IT AS A RESIDENT, YOU WOULD REQUEST TO THE BOARD TO LEAVE IT AS -- YOU'RE NOT REZONING IT. YOU'RE JUST ASKING TO STILL MAINTAIN AND USE IT AS A RESIDENT. AND THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT CAN DO FOR YOU. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> YES, SIR >> OKAY >> RIGHT NOW CITY OR COUNTY WANTED THAT AREA TO BE COMMERCIAL. IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY. THEY ZONED IT COMMERCIAL. IS THAT THE PATH WE'RE TRAVELING? >> THAT'S THE PATH, YES >> SO WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. JUST TRYING TO GET THAT CORRECT SO I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I REALLY CAN TELL YOU TODAY. WE'RE STUCK IN THE MIDDLE HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, FINANCIALLY AND BEING RESPONSIBLE AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME >> QUICK QUESTION >> YES, SIR >> DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, FOR US TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE OR NOT? >> I DO UNDERSTAND IT. THAT'S PART OF THE CONSIDERATION. >> YES. >> HOPEFULLY, THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT GOES. THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. WE DO HAVE SOME INTERESTED BUYERS, SERIOUS PEOPLE. SOME FOLKS JUST TRYING TO GET IT FOR CHEAP. OTHERS THAT WANT TO REBUILD THE HOUSE AND RENT IT OUT OR DO WHATEVER TWHAEUPBT TO DO. THAT'S AN OPTION FOR US AT THIS POINT. WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO DO, IF IT'S HEAVILY COMMERCIAL. WE'RE JUST CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT TO DO NEXT >> SO MY QUESTION IS, ALSO, IF YOU CAN, DO YOU PLAN ON, A, EITHER TRYING TO REMODEL THE HOUSE OR, B, SELL THE PROPERTY? >> YES, SIR. ONE OF THOSE TWO >> THAT'S YOUR GOAL. YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS HOUSE DEMOLISHED? >> NO, SIR >> OKAY. WE REALIZE THAT IT WILL COME TO A POINT, TODAY OR ANOTHER DAY, WHERE THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE DECISION THAT SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO MAKE. HOPEFULLY, WE CAN TELL YOU BEFORE THAT HAPPENS. BUT WE UNDERSTAND >> OKAY >> THANK YOU >> THANK, Y'ALL. ANY OTHERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE TODAY? SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER 25-001890 AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. OR OCEAN. SOUNDS LIKE THEY DON'T WANT IT DEMOED >> THIS SEEMS TO ME A TRICKY SITUATION. I THINK THEY NEED TO GO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS BEFORE THEY CAN REALLY DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO PROCEED >> I DO THINK THE OWNERS HAVE REALLY SHOWN A WILLINGNESS TO COOPERATE. THEY HAVE AN ATTITUDE AND THEY'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THAT SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION. >> YES >> IF I MAY EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIMELINE, GOING BACK TO FEBRUARY 4TH, THIS IS WHEN THE WHOLE, WHEN THE ZONING INFORMATION CAME TO LIGHT AND WAS BROUGHT TO THE OWNER'S ATTENTION. THERE'S BEEN NO ACTION TO BRING THIS PROPERTY TO THAT BOARD. THERE'S BEEN OPPORTUNITIES SINCE THEN TO GET THE BALL ROLLING WITH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. THAT'S THE REASON FOR OUR DEMO RECOMMENDATION TODAY >> WAS THAT TWO YEARS AGO? >> NO, SIR. THAT WAS JUST FEBRUARY 4TH OF '26 >> OKAY. >> SHOW US THE TIMELINE >> CAN YOU COME BACK UP? CAN YOU COME BACK UP? >> YES, SIR. >> CAN HE SHOW US THE TIMELINE? >> YES, SIR. IT SHOULD BE UP. >> WE'RE WISHING TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS >> LET ME REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING CASE 25-001890. >> I DON'T HAVE THE E-MAIL DATES. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK IT UP. WE SENT QUESTIONS TO KYRA -- >> APPLICATION FOR -- >> I THINK WE SENT IT INCOMPLETE BECAUSE WE DID NOT ANSWER A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS. WE ASKED HER TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND WE DIDN'T HEAR BACK FROM HER. BY E-MAIL OR BY PHONE CALL, SO I LEFT MY PHONE NUMBER. WE DO HAVE A COPY OF THAT E-MAIL >> YOU WANT TO KEEP IT RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? YOU WANT TO KEEP THE HOUSE AND REMODEL THE HOUSE? >> THAT WOULD BE OUR FIRST PLAN. SECOND PLAN WOULD BE IF IT'S [00:25:02] JUST GONNA TAKE MORE THAN WE CAN AFFORD DO, THEN SELL IT TO THE INTERESTED PARTIES. WE HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW, ALSO, THAT WHAT, IF THEY WANT TO BUY THE HOUSE, IF IT IS HEAVY COMMERCIAL, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH, I ASSUME WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO FILE PAPERS AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT A LAUNDROMAT OR WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT A HOME. I HAVE TO ASK WHAT CAN BE DONE. WE HAVE TO BE HONEST TO WHOEVER WE SELL THE HOUSE TO, OBVIOUSLY, IF THAT COMES TO THAT. IF WE SELL IT AS A RESIDENTIAL HOME, THAT DON'T MEAN THEY CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND ASK FOR THE COMMISSION TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH IT. I'M ASSUMING >> YEP >> ANYBODY, WHETHER IT'S US OR WE SELL IT, THEY HAVE TO STILL GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF ASKING WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH IT >> RIGHT >> I DO HAVE, AGAIN, IT'S ON MY PHONE, THE E-MAIL TO KYRA. IT WAS DATED FEBRUARY 13TH. WE DID SAY THAT WE ARE E-MAILING HER ABOUT THE PROPERTY AND THAT WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOA APPLICATION, OR WHATEVER THAT'S CALLED. MOVING ON, SHE DID SAY THAT SHE RECEIVED THE E-MAIL AND WHAT KIND OF QUESTIONS WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS ABOUT THE PROPERTY? THEN WE DID, IN THE E-MAIL AS WELL, ASK THAT WE HAD QUESTIONS THAT WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. WE ANSWERED WHAT WE COULD AND FAXED IT OR E-MAILED IT BACK TO HER. AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING BACK FROM HER BY E-MAIL OR OTHERWISE. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M JUST NOT SEEING IT OR WHAT. I THINK, I THINK, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT DAY, BUT WE DID HAVE A CALL WITH ROBERT AFTER THAT ABOUT THE BOA. I THINK IT WENT DOWN TO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, BUT I KNOW THERE WAS A CALL >> HE TOLD US TO GET AHOLD OF KYRA, THAT DEPARTMENT >> OKAY >> I THINK WE CALLED A COUPLE TIMES, LEFT A MESSAGE OR TWO. WE DIDN'T GET A CALL BACK. FROM HER. I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE >> SO YOU'RE STUCK IN LIMBO ON IF YOU WANT TO SELL IT OR REHAB IT, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR >> WHAT'S GONNA ULTIMATELY HAVE YOU MAKE THAT DECISION? >> UNDERSTANDING IF IT'S COMMERCIAL, SO IT WOULD BE -- COULD BE SOLD AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. SO I'LL ASSUME THE VALUE IS BETTER THAN A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. I'VE NOT IN REAL ESTATE. I DON'T KNOW. MY MIND IS TURNING HERE. IT'S A FAMILY HOME. HER MOTHER PASSED IN THAT HOME. THEY LIVED THERE FOR QUITE SOMETIME. PERSONALLY, WE'D RATHER KEEP IT AND FIX IT UP. BUT THE CHALLENGES OF THE VAGRANTS REALLY GIVE US PAUSE BECAUSE WE HAVE TALKED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY'VE JUST TOLD US, HEY, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO. WE HAVE MORE SERIOUS CALLS, MORE CALLS THAT REQUIRE OUR ATTENTION. THAT AREA IS A PROBLEM. WE KNOW IT. WE JUST -- THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD US >> I THINK YOUR OPTIONS ARE, IF YOU WANT TO SELL IT AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO DEMO THE HOUSE AND LIST IT. THEN THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO GO GET TO THE -- GO SEE KYRA. MAKE SURE YOU CAN KEEP IT AS RESIDENTIAL, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK YOU WOULD NEED TO GO PULL A PERMIT TO GO START DOING THE WORK ON IT. TO SHOW THESE GUYS THAT YOU'RE MAKING PROGRESS, RIGHT? AND OTHERWISE, IF IT JUST KEEPS COMING BACK, RIGHT, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO SAY, HEY -- >> DEMO IT >> -- TIME'S UP, WE GOTTA DEMO >> YES, SIR >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. IF WE WERE TO TABLE THIS FOR 30 DAYS, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE GETTING ANSWERS? >> YES, SIR. IF YOU GIVE US THAT TIME -- >> IF WE GAVE YOU 30 DAYS, DO YOU THINK Y'ALL COULD REALLY, REALLY AGGRESSIVELY TALK TO ALL THE PEOPLE? I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOOD GUYS OR BAD GUY. I THINK EVERYBODY HAS GOOD WILL, OTHER THAN THE VAGRANTS. BUT IF IT WERE TO BE TABLED, DO YOU THINK THAT YOU COULD REALLY GET ON MAYBE WORKING, COMING TO FRUITION AND REALLY GOING WHERE YOU WANT TO GO? >> YES, SIR, I BELIEVE WE CAN. >> THANK YOU >> I HAVE A QUESTION >> YES, SIR. >> IF YOU ARE GOING TO REMODEL IT, DO YOU HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO THAT? >> YES, SIR, TO A CERTAIN POINT, YES. IF WE GOT TO START OVER EVERY TWO WEEKS, 30 DAYS, NO. BUT IF WE CAN GET IN THERE ELEC. I'VE TALKED TO A LOCAL FELLA ABOUT -- IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY. BUT I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND PAPERWORK TO FILL THAT OUT. WINDOW UNITS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS IT'S GOT TO BE UPGRADED TO AC AND DUCT WORK AND ALL THAT, I DON'T [00:30:04] KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT, OTHER THAN, CAN IT BE BROUGHT UP TO CODE WITHOUT AN AC AND A HEATER? PLUMBING IS THERE AND IT WORKS, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE FLUSHED OUT. THAT'S GOTTA HAPPEN. GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THE KITCHEN SINK. REPAIR THE FIRE DAMAGE, PULL OUT SHEET ROCK. THERE'S SOME WORK TO DO. THAT COSMETICALLY CAN BE DONE. WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT PART. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIGHT THE VAGRANTS EVERY WEEK OR TWO WEEKS. THEY SEEM TO COME AT NIGHT, AFTER HOURS IN THE DARK. THEY DO THEIR MISCHIEF. >> I THINK THE TWO SOLUTIONS ARE, ONE, DEMO IT, OR, TWO, GET IT OCCUPIED. THAT WILL BE THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP THE VAGRANTS OUT >> YES, SIR. AFTER THIS HEARING, DEPENDING WHAT Y'ALL CHOOSE TO DO, WE WILL PURSUE IT AGGRESSIVELY IF WE HAVE THAT TIME, IF WE'RE GIVEN THAT TIME TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN SO WE CAN LET THE BOARD KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. >> THANK YOU >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING CASE 25-00190. OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION OR MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS AND BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT MEETING. GIVE THEM TIME TO TRY TO TAKE THIS FURTHER BEFORE WE DO THIS >> SEE WHAT PROGRESS IS HAD? >> I SECOND THE MOTION. >> ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION I JUST WANT TO SAY, WE JUST NEED TO CORRECT THE CASE NUMBER. 742 NORTH 13, CASE NUMBER 24-001274. >> CASE NUMBER 24-001274? >> YES, SIR >> OKAY. CORRECTION ON THE CASE NUMBER. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY MR. WYATT TO TABLE AND SECOND BY MR. TANKERSLEY. ROLL CALL, PLEASE >> MR. WYATT >> YES >> MR. ALLRED >> YES >> MR. TANKERSLEY >> YES >> MR. MCNEILL >> YES >> MR. TURNER >> YES >> MR. DUNCAN >> YES >> MR. MCBRAYER >> YES >> MOTION PASSED. [D. Case for Rehabilitation, Demolition, or Civil Penalties - Case #25-001890: 1741 Anderson St (LILLIE ADAMS SUBDIVISION, LOT 4, TAYLOR COUNTY, TEXAS), JOCH Properties, LLC] ALL RIGHT. NEXT CASE, PLEASE >> THE NEXT CASE IS GONNA BE CASE NUMBER 25-001890 AT 1741 ANDERSON STREET. CHECK LIST SHOWS UTILITIES HAVE BEEN INACTIVE SINCE MARCH OF 23. SHOWS JOCH PROPERTIES TO BE THE OWNER. THE FRONT NORTH SIDE. REAR SOUTH SIDE. EAST SIDE. AND WEST SIDE. SUBSTANDARD CODE VIOLATIONS, INADEQUATE SANITATION, STRUCTURAL HAZARDOUSES, NUISANCE, HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL WIRING, HAZARDOUS MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AND FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION. HERE'S SOME OF THE EXTERIOR DE DEL DELAPITATION. I'M GONNA SKIP THROUGH THE TIMELINE. BASICALLY, IT BOILS DOWN TO THIS WAS ORDERED DEMO THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT IT. BUT THEN WE DISCOVERED A LIENHOLDER SO WE HAD TO NOTIFY THEM. NOTIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THEN SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE MOVING ON AND JUST ASKING FOR THE DEMO ORDER AGAIN SO IT'S OFFICIAL WITH THE LIENHOLDER BEING NOTIFIED AND EVERYTHING. OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME IS TO FIND THAT THE PROPERTY IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND THAT IS A HAZARDOUS TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE AN REPAIR OF THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE UNREASONABLE AND ORDER THE OWNER IS ORDERED TO DEMOLISH OR APPEAL THE ORDER TO DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS OR THE CITY MAY DEMOLISH. I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I WILL OPEN CASE 25-001890 PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE 25-001890 AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. >> I MOVE THAT WE GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> SECOND >> ALL RIGHT. WE GOT A MOTION BY MR. ALLRED TO [00:35:02] ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT THE PROPERTY IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND THAT IT IS A HAZARD TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. AND A SECOND BY MR. TANKERSLEY. ROLL CALL, PLEASE >> MR. WYATT >> YES >> MR. ALLRED >> YES >> MR. TANKERSLEY >> YES >> MR. MCNEILL >> YES >> MR. TURNER >> YES >> MR. DUNCAN >> YES >> MR. MCBRAYER >> YES >> OCEAN PASSED >> OWNER IS ORDERED TO APPEAL THE ORDER TO DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS OR THE CITY MAY DEMOLISH. >> ALL RIGHT. WE GOT A MOTION BY MR. ALLRED THAT THE OWNER IS ORDERED TO DEMOLISH OR APPEAL TO DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS OR CITY MAY DEMOLISH AND SECOND BY MR. MCNEILL. ROLL CALL >> MR. WYATT >> YES >> MR. ALLRED >> YES >> MR. TANKERSLEY >> YES >> MR. MCNEILL >> YES >> MR. TURNER >> YES >> MR. DUNCAN >> YES >> MR. MCBRAYER >> YES >> MOTION PASSED. >> NEXT CASE CASE 25-004020 AT [E. Case for Rehabilitation, Demolition, or Civil Penalties - Case #25-004020: 302 Willow St (OT ABILENE, BLOCK 60, LOT 1, TAYLOR COUNTY, TEXAS), Owner: Ford, Jeremy Jerome] 302 WILLOW STREET. CHECK LIST SHOWS UTILITIES HAVE BEEN INACTIVE SINCE JANUARY 23RD OF 2010. AND A SEARCH REVEALS JEREMY JEROME FORD TO BE THE OWNER. THIS IS THE PUBLIC NOTICE THAT WAS POSTED. THIS IS THE FRONT EAST SIDE. REAR WEST SIDE. NORTH SIDE. AND SOUTH SIDE. SUBSTANDARD CODE VIOLATIONS, INADEQUATE SANITATION, STRUCTURAL HAZARDOUSES, NUISANCE, HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL WIRING AND FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION. HERE'S THE INITIAL CONDITION WHEN WE FIRST TOOK THE CASE. AND HERE'S THE CURRENT CONDITIONS. THAT IS A NEW ELECTRIC PANEL THAT WAS PUT IN. TIMELINE, AUGUST 27TH OF '25, AFFIDAVIT OF CONDEMNATION WAS RECORDED AT THE COUNTY CLERK. CONDEMNATIONS NOTICES WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNER. PRIOR TO CONDEMNATION THE OWNER WAS INSTRUCTED TO REACH OUT TO PLANNING AND ZONING TO ASK WHETHER HE COULD GET AN EXEMPTION TO BE ABLE TO RENOVATE THE STRUCTURE SINCE IT IS LOCATED IN AN AREA ZONED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SEPTEMBER 11TH OF '25, EXPLAINED TO PROPERTY OWNER HE SHOULD NOT CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE HOUSE WHILE HE DOES NOT HAVE A PERMIT. OCTOBER 24TH OF '25 THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS APPROVED SPECIAL EXEMPTION FOR NONCONFORMING USE TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL USE AND FOR REPAIR COSTS AT OVER 50% OF THE HOME'S TAXABLE VALUE. ON DECEMBER 3RD OF '25, THE BOARD ORDERED A 30/60. SINCE THEN WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE CONTACTS WITH THE OWNER TO REMIND HIM WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO TO PULL THE PERMIT. FEBRUARY 20TH OF '26, THE PROPERTY IS OVER RUN BY SCATTERED CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, VEHICLES UNDERGOING UNAUTHORIZED MECHANIC WORK, AND AN RV THAT APPEARS TO BE LIVED IN. APRIL 9TH OF '26, INSPECTED THE PROPERTY. REQUESTED ENTRY TO THE HOUSE FOR INSPECTION. WE WERE DENIED ENTRY. INTERIOR INSPECTION SCHEDULED FOR FOLLOWING WEEK. APRIL 9TH OF '26 THE NOTICE OF THE MAY HEARING WAS SENT TO PROPERTY OWNER AND LIENHOLDER. APRIL 10TH OF '26, REPOSTED A CONDEMNATION NOTICE ON THE PROPERTY AND POSTED THE NOTICE OF THE MAY HEARING. APRIL 15TH OF '26, WE COMPLETED A WALK THROUGH OF THE PROPERTY WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, FOUND WHAT APPEARED TO BE NEW ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING WORK THAT HAD BEEN COMPLETED. EXPLAINED THE PLAN OF ACTION PROCESS AGAIN. MAY 4TH OF '26 WE WERE INFORMED BY ZONING THAT THE SPECIAL EXEMPTION GRANTED BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS TO CONTINUE USE AS A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE EBBING PAOEURED APRIL 12TH OF [00:40:06] '26 AND THERE IS NO PERMIT REQUEST FOR RENOVATION OF THE PROPERTY. SO WE DID JUST FIND THAT OUT, THAT THAT HAS EXPIRED. SO AT THIS POINT WE CAN'T EVEN ISSUE THE PERMIT UNTIL THAT GOES BACK THROUGH IF HE DOES TAKE IT BACK TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. BUT THAT SIX MONTH TIMEFRAME THAT EXPIRED BY ALMOST A MONTH, THAT WE JUST FOUND OUT THIS WEEK. SO HE'S GOTTA TAKE CARE OF THAT AS WELL. AT THIS TIME THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO FIND THAT THE PROPERTY IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND THAT IT IS A HAZARDOUS TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE AND REPAIR OF THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE UNREASONABLE AND ORDER THE OWNER IS ORDERED TO DEMOLISH OR APPEAL THE ORDER TO DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS OR THE CITY MAY DEMOLISH. AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. AND THE OWNER IS HERE TODAY. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE NUMBER 25-004020. ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE PLEASE STEP FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD >> JEREMY FORD. I'M THE OWNER >> ALL RIGHT >> SO IT'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION WITH RICKY AND THE CITY AND PLANNING AND ZONING AND TRYING TO GET THINGS TOGETHER, AND SOME PERSONAL ISSUES THAT I'M DEALING WITH TRYING TO GET THIS DONE. INITIALLY THERE WAS A VARIANCE THAT WAS, THE ZONING, RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN ZONING HAD CHANGED TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND SO I WENT BEFORE THE BOARD AND PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, OF COURSE. AND IT GOT APPROVED. I WAS A BIT -- I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND AFTER I GOT MY APPROVAL FOR THE -- IT WAS RESIDENTIAL AND THE 30/60 PLAN I BELIEVE IT WAS. SO THEN I TRIED TO GET THINGS DONE. I SENT RICKY A PLAN OF ACTION. THEN I FOUND OUT THAT I HAVE TO GO ABOUT IT A DIFFERENT WAY. IT'S KIND OF BEEN UP AND DOWN TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. AS RICKY WAS SPEAKING TO ME IN THE LAST WEEK, AS STATED, YOU KNOW, I LET HIM IN, TAKE PICTURES, TO SEE WHAT WORK IS BEING DONE. I THINK I JUST ENDED UP GOING ABOUT IT THE WRONG WAY IN TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE. I'M LIKE, INSPECTIONS. THEN I LOOK AT A PERMIT. IT WAS JUST KIND OF ALL MUMBO JUMBO. IN THE END THIS IS KIND OF MOOT BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS I GUESS AND GET THAT, WHAT WAS IT 30/60 REAPPROVED FOR RESIDENTIAL. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH RICKY. I HAVE BEEN GETTING MY PLAN OF ACTION AND GETTING THE ESTIMATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. NOW THAT I'M MORE AWARE OF HOW THE SYSTEM ACTUALLY WORKS SO THEN I CAN GET THE ACTUAL PERMITS TO GET EVERYTHING DONE. BUT THINGS JUST KIND OF GOT OUT OF LINE AND OUT OF ORDER. I HAD A MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPER PROTOCOL OF HOW THIS WORKS. SO THAT IS ALL. IT'S JUST -- COURSE, I PURCHASED THE HOME. OF COURSE, IT WAS ZONED RESIDENTIAL. THEN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. I HAD THAT APPROVED. THEN TIME JUST KIND OF GOT AWAY TRYING TO GET IT DONE THE RIGHT WAY. LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS KIND OF MOOT. I DON'T WANT THE HOUSE DEMOLISHED. I PURCHASED THE HOME WHEN I MOVED HERE TO ABILENE FOR WORK. I SPOKE TO RICKY TO KEEP THINGS CLEANED UP. HE MADE IT CLEAR TO ME THAT I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS GET CLEANED UP AND, YOU KNOW, YARD STAYS MOWED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE PROPERLY SO THAT I CAN GET THIS PROJECT DONE AND COMPLETED THE RIGHT WAY. AS YOU SEE FROM THE PHOTOS, IT WAS A BIT DILAPITATED WHEN I PURCHASED THE HOME >> QUESTIONS? >> DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE PERMIT PROCESS? >> I DO NOW. MORE SO NOW. TALKING WITH CLARISSA, TALKING WITH RICKY. THEY'VE BOTH BEEN GUIDING ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON STANDARDS. I MOVED HERE FROM OUT OF STATE. SOME PERSONAL STUFF HAPPENED. LEAVE STATE, NOT JUST WORK, BUT TO GO GET STUFF DONE. TIME KIND OF GOT AWAY FROM ME. MORE SO IS THE UNDERSTANDING. I THOUGHT, OH, HEY, IT WAS APPROVED FOR RESIDENTIAL, NOW I CAN DO THIS. BUT THEN IT WAS, NO, YOU HAVE TO GO THIS WAY. IT'S JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND KIND OF LIKE THE LAST INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS UP HERE. [00:45:03] JUST KIND OF -- THE PROTOCOL, YOU KNOW, LIKE HE HAD THE PLAN OF ACTION BECAUSE IT WAS HIS INDUSTRIAL, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. THEN IT'S RESIDENTIAL. BUT IT WAS RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT'S ALL. I DO UNDERSTAND NOW. THE GOAL NOW IS, MY PAPERWORK IS COMPLETE FOR THE JUNE OF THE -- TO GO BACK TO BUILDING STANDARDS, OR WHAT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. TO GO BACK AND ASK THEM IF I CAN GET AN EXTENSION. SINCE THEY ALREADY APPROVED IT THE FIRST TIME. THEN ALL THE STUFF RICKY NEEDS, AS FAR AS THE ESTIMATES, PERMITS AND STUFF. I'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON THAT AND WORKING WITH HIM. SO IT SHOULD BE DONE BY THE JUNE MEETING. SO HOPEFULLY, IT CAN JUST BOOM, BOOM AND BE DONE. AND I DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY MORE OF YOUR TIME >> HAVE YOU PULLED THE PERMIT FOR THE HOUSE YET? >> NO, 'CAUSE I CAN'T, RIGHT? >> I BELIEVE YOU CAN >> YOU CAN'T >> CANNOT PULL PERMITS? >> NO >> GOTTA GO BACK TO THE -- >> YEAH >> GET IT REZONED, THEN GO PULL THE PERMIT AFTER >> WHICH I HOPE -- THEY APPROVED THE FIRST TIME. I JUST RAN OUT OF -- HOPEFULLY. AND THERE'S NOT A WAY I CAN ASK FOR AN EXTENSION WITHOUT GOING BACK TO GET IT, LIKE, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK IN JUNE? I DON'T KNOW. SORRY. >> ON OUR END, AT THIS POINT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO WITH THE PERMITS. THAT VARIANCE THAT HE WAS GIVEN, THE EXEMPTION IN THE BEGINNING BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS HAS EXPIRED. SO EVERYTHING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO -- THAT'S WHAT ALLOWED US TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH HIM, TELLING HIM TO GET THE PERMIT. NONE OF THAT WAS EVER DONE IN THAT SIX MONTH TIMEFRAME SO THAT HAS EXPIRED AND WE CAN'T MOVE ON WITH OUR PROCESS UNTIL IT'S EITHER REAPPROVED OR ANOTHER DECISION IS MADE. AND THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AT THIS POINT >> DO YOU HAVE A DATE ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS? >> THEIR MEETING'S THE BEGINNING OF JUNE >> YEAH. I TAKE THIS TO THEM WHEN I LEAVE HERE. SHE CAN, HOPEFULLY, GET CLARISSA CAN GET IT ON THE JUNE -- I'M SORRY >> THIS MAY BE A QUESTION YOU CAN'T ANSWER. BUT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, WHEN THEY MAKE THIS VARIANCE, THE REASON IT EXPIRED IS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEE PROGRESS? >> BECAUSE HE NEVER APPLIED FOR A PERMIT >> OKAY. SO THE VARIANCE IS CONTINGENT UPON THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND BRINGING IT UP? >> CORRECT. PART OF THEIR DECISION GAVE HIM 180 DAYS TO APPLY FOR THE PERMITS TO DO THE WORK. >> OKAY >> AND THAT WAS NEVER TURNED IN WITH THAT 180 DAYS. >> THANK YOU >> AND IT WAS EXPLAINED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT A PERMIT WAS NEEDED SINCE THIS WHOLE CASE STARTED. WHY HE DIDN'T IS UP TO HIM TO TELL YA. NOW THAT THAT IS EXPIRED, WE CAN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. TO ALLOW A PERMIT >> ONCE AGAIN, IT WOULD STILL BE CONTINGENT UPON GETTING A PERMIT >> CORRECT. NOTHING ELSE CAN BE MOVING FORWARD UNTIL BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS GIVES THEIR DECISION AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN THE PERMIT HAS TO BE PULLED BEFORE HE CAN DO ANY MORE WORK >> THANK YOU. >> THANKS. >> JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT WAS JUST, I TALKED TO RICKY ABOUT THIS. I CAME FROM OUT OF STATE. I MOVED HERE. JUST TMI. BUT DEALING WITH CUSTODY AND HAVING TO GO BACK AND SPEND TIME OUT OF STATE. I JUST RAN -- PLUS, KIND OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE WAY IT WORKS. AFTER THAT MEETING I TURNED IN A PLAN OF ACTION, BUT IT WASN'T -- I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD TO -- I THOUGHT I COULD THEN TURN THE PLAN OF ACTION AND THEN APPLY. BUT THEN I FOUND' OUT I HAVE TO GET ESTIMATES IN ORDER TO APPLY. THINGS JUST GOT OUT OF HAND, OR AWAY FROM ME, NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE PERMITS 'CAUSE I THOUGHT YOU CAN JUST WALK IN AND APPLY FOR A PERMIT. IT'S A BIG THING. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH RICKY, LIKE I SAID, IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, AS YOU SAW FROM THE DATES, AND GETTING THAT TOGETHER SO THAT I CAN GO BACK AND WHEN I GO BACK TO THE MEETING, HAVE THE PERMITS READY TO BE PULLED BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE ESTIMATES AND I'LL HAVE EVERYTHING TOGETHER FOR THAT >> SO YOU HAVE ESTIMATES NOW READY TO GO? >> YEAH, I GOT SOME. I TURNED IT IN TO RICKY. HE CALLED ME TO GIVE THEM BACK TO ME BECAUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE THE ESTIMATES DIDN'T GIVE THEM THOROUGHLY ENOUGH, I GUESS, ON WHAT I NEEDED. LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, HE SAID THAT THE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL WAS FINE, BUT JUST THE CONFUSION. HE SAID THE WATER, YOU KNOW, SYSTEM NEEDED TO BE TESTED BECAUSE IT'S BEEN OFF FOR SO LONG. THE GUY GAVE ME A QUOTE TO GET [00:50:01] THE WATER TESTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S FINE. AND SO I'M LIKE, OKAY. I TURN IT INTO RICKY. HE SAID, NO, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO THE TEST AND SAY WHAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE DONE. MY OPINION WAS I THOUGHT THEY COULDN'T TOUCH ANYTHING. SO IT'S ME NOT UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS OF HOW IT WORKS. NOW BECAUSE OF THAT, I WILL NOW PAY TO HAVE THEM TEST THE SYSTEM AND THEN GIVE ME AN ESTIMATE. LIKE I SAID, MY INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW THE PROCESS WORKS TO BE ABLE TO GET A PERMIT TO GET THINGS DONE. BUT ALL THAT AND ALL THE ESTIMATES WILL BE IN ORDER BEFORE I GO BACK TO THEM SO THAT, HOPEFULLY, I CAN GET REAPPROVED. THEN IMMEDIATELY PULL PERMITS AND IMMEDIATELY BE ABLE TO GET THINGS DONE. THAT'S THE GAME PLAN >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU >> EARLY JUNE. WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO REVISIT THIS IN JULY TO SEE IF THAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE >> POTENTIALLY >> IF 30 DAYS WOULD BE ENOUGH >> RIGHT. WE COULD PROBABLY, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE A 30/60 YOU COULD. THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO STAFF TO BRING IT BACK TO US. THEY WOULD DEAL WITH THAT. WE COULD POTENTIALLY SEE IT BACK AT SOME POINT IF HE STOPS WORK AGAIN. THE BOARD, DO THEY TYPICALLY GRANT IT TWICE? WHATEVER IT IS FOR -- >> WE DO IT ONCE >> THERE'S ANOTHER BOARD HE'S GOT TO TAKE IT TO, PLANNING AND ZONING FOLKS >> I THINK IT'S BEEN DONE, YEAH. >> IF IT GOES -- TAKES IT BACK TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, THAT WON'T BE UNTIL JUNE 9TH. ACTUALLY Y'ALL WON'T SEE IT -- Y'ALL WOULDN'T SEE IT AGAIN UNTIL AUGUST MEETING. >> JULY OR AUGUST? >> I WAS GONNA SAY IF THERE WAS A 30/60 ISSUED, IT WOULDN'T EVEN FALL UNDER -- 'CAUSE HE CAN'T TURN IN A PLAN OF ACTION WITHIN 30 DAYS TO US >> RIGHT >> UNTIL THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS MAKES A DECISION. THAT'S GONNA BE PAST THE 30 DAYS. SO AT THIS POINT THE 30/60 WOULDN'T WORK ON OUR END. >> IS THERE OTHER OPTIONS BESIDES A 30/60? >> THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL. >> QUICK QUESTION. HAVE WE COMPLETED PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER? >> ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER 25-004020. AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. OR A MOTION. >> I GUESS WE COULD TABLE IT UNTIL AUGUST. I THINK WITH A 30/60, WE CAN ONLY GIVE 90 DAYS TOTAL ANYWAY, RIGHT? >> IT DON'T MATTER WHAT -- YEAH, YOU CAN GIVE MORE THAN 90 DAYS. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU CAN TABLE IT MORE THAN 30 DAYS >> YEAH >> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING >> SO WE'D HAVE TO TABLE IT THIS MONTH AND THEN TABLE IT NEXT MONTH >> YOU COULD DO THAT. >> AND THEN IF WE DON'T SEE PROGRESS COME AUGUST, WE COULD VOTE FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION? >> YES, SIR. >> THOUGHTS ON THAT? >> MAYBE OUR ONLY OPTION UNTIL THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS MEETS. >> WE CAN'T DO A WHOLE LOT TIL THEY MEET. >> JUST ON OUR END, IS THERE A REASON WE COULDN'T BRING IT BACK JULY? DO YOU HAVE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS BEGINNING OF JUNE? >> DO WE KNOW THAT SOLUTION? >> I LOOKED AT THAT WRONG, I'M SORRY >> YOU SAID AUGUST >> I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK TO THAT JULY MEETING >> I'M GETTING MY MONTHS OUT OF ORDER >> THE SOONEST WE WOULD HAVE IT BACK TO YOU WOULD BE THE JULY MEETING >> THANK YOU >> SO WE CAN TABLE IT UNTIL JULY. AND IF THERE'S NOT A PERMIT PULLED BY THAT MEETING -- >> I'M NOT SURE. CAN THEY DO MORE THAN 30 DAYS OR ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO TABLE IT AGAIN AT THE NEXT MEETING? >> I'M NOT AWARE OF -- >> THEY CAN TABLE IT. >> IF SOMEONE ELSE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE AND WE JUST WANT TO DO 30 DAYS >> JUST RETABLE >> YEAH. YOU HAVE TO RETABLE IT AT A SECOND MEETING. BUT KNOWING IF THE PERMIT'S NOT PULLED BY THE JULY MEETING, THAT IT'S GONNA BE DEMOED AFTER THAT. >> I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BASICALLY CAN I -- DO I NEED TO STEP UP? >> REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING REAL QUICK. REOPEN 25-004020. [00:55:04] >> I THINK I'M OKAY. I KNOW I'M ACTIVELY WORKING AS QUICK AS I CAN TO GET THINGS DONE ANYWAY, SO WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING IS, I'LL GO BACK TO THE OTHER MEETING IN JUNE AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING -- THE ZONING. YOU'RE SAYING, HOPEFULLY, IF THAT GOES THROUGH, THEN THE NEXT MONTH I NEED TO HAVE EVERYTHING PULLED TO BE BACK HERE >> IF THEY GRANT YOU YOUR EXCEPTION, YOU HAVE TO PULL THE PERMIT AFTER THAT. IF THEY DON'T GRANT YOU THE EXCEPTION, WE HAVE TO DEMO. IF YOU DON'T PULL YOUR PERMIT AFTER THE EXCEPTION, WE HAVE TO DEMO >> THAT'S FINE. I'M ALREADY ACTIVELY WORKING TO GET IT DONE AS QUICK AS I CAN. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. THAT WORKS FOR ME. THANK YOU >> YOU DO UNDERSTAND AT THIS POINT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING AT ALL CONSTRUCTION WISE UNTIL YOU HAVE -- >> THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH NOW, MAKING SURE I HAVE ALL THAT DONE AS FAR AS THE -- >> YOU CAN GET THE PREPATORY WORK DONE, CONTRACTORS IN LINE. THE REST WILL HAVE TO BE AFTER THE PERMIT, WHICH WILL BE AFTER THE VARIANCE >> OKAY. OKAY. I'M LEARNING >> SUBMIT IT TO PLANNING AND ZONING FOR THAT VARIANCE AGAIN. IS THAT PAPERWORK IN YOUR HAND? >> I HAVE TO HAVE IT IN, THEY SAID BY FRIDAY, BUT I'M TAKING IT THERE NOW SO IT CAN BE ON THAT JUNE MEETING. I'M TAKING IT DOWN AFTER THIS. SO, YEAH. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE -- >> LET ME CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING 25-004020. OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A DISCUSSION ON A MOTION >> I MAKE A MOTION WE TABLE THIS UNTIL NEXT MEETING >> SECOND THE MOTION >> ALL RIGHT. I GOT A MOTION TO TABLE CASE NUMBER 25-004020 TO THE NEXT BOARD OF BUILDING STANDARDS MEETING IN JUNE. MOTION BY MR. WYATT. SECOND BY MR. TANKERSLEY. ROLL CALL, PLEASE >> MR. WYATT >> YES >> MR. ALLRED >> YES >> MR. TANKERSLEY >> YES >> MR. MCNEILL >> YES >> MR. TURNER >> YES >> MR. DUNCAN >> YES >> MR. MCBRAYER >> YES >> MOTION PASSED. [F. Case for Rehabilitation, Demolition, or Civil Penalties - Case #25-006036: 826 Ballinger St (CARLISLE REP OF FAIR PARK ACRES, BLOCK 1, LOT 206, TAYLOR COUNTY, TEXAS), Owner: Sky Blue Avenue LLC] >> ALL RIGHT. NEXT CASE THIS MORNING CASE NUMBER 25-006036 AT 826 BALLINGER COURT -- OR STREET, SORRY. CHECK LIST SHOWS UTILITIES HAVE BEEN INACTIVE SINCE OCTOBER 29 OF 2024. SEARCH REVEALS SKY BLUE AVENUE LLC TO BE THE OWNER THIS IS THE PUBLIC NOTICE THAT WAS POSTED. THE FRONT EAST SIDE. THE REAR WEST SIDE. NORTH SIDE. AND SOUTH SIDE. SUBSTANDARD CODE VIOLATIONS, INADEQUATE SANITATION, NUISANCE, STRUCTURE UNFIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION. PROJECT HAS CEASED MORE THAN ONE YEAR AGO AFTER STOP WORK ORDER WAS POSTED TO PROMPT CONTRACTOR TO OBTAIN A PERMIT. HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL WIRING. HAZARDOUS PLUMBING. HAZARDOUS MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AND FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION. HERE'S SOME OF THE INCOMPLETE INTERIOR WORK THAT WAS DONE. TIMELINE DECEMBER 18TH OF '25, AFFIDAVIT OF CONDEMNATION WAS FILED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK. ON OCTOBER 11TH OF '24 A STOP WORK ORDER WAS POSTED AND NOTICE WAS SENT TO THE OWNER FOR RENOVATION WITHOUT ANY PERMITS ON FILE. PERMIT WAS APPLIED FOR ON DECEMBER 18TH OF '24. THE APPLICATION WAS NOT APPROVED. MARCH 23RD OF '26, OWNER CAME TO CITY HALL TO DISCUSS OPTIONS WITH THE PROPERTY. THEY WERE UNSURE IF THEY WERE GOING TO SELL IT OR DEMOLISH AND REBUILD. APRIL 8TH OF '26, SPOKE WITH THE OWNER AND HE STATED THEY WERE PLANNING TO DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY. HE STATED HE'D CONFIRM AND GET BACK WITH ME THAT SAME DAY. NO FURTHER COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN RECEIVED FROM THEM SINCE THEN. APRIL 10TH, '26 THE NOTICE OF THE HEARING WAS POSTED ON THE STRUCTURE AND SENT TO THE OWNERS. THE RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME IS ORDER THE OWNER TO REPAIR, 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE A PLAN OF ACTION, INCLUDING A TIMEFRAME FOR REPAIR AND COST ESTIMATES, AND OBTAIN ALL PERMITS. IF THIS IS DONE, 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN ROUGH-IN INSPECTIONS. IF THIS IS DONE ALL FINAL INSPECTIONS SHALL BE COMPLETED BY THE EXPIRATION OF ALL PERMITS. AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS >> DO YOU KNOW WHY THE PERMIT WAS REJECTED ORIGINALLY? [01:00:02] >> I AM NOT AWARE. >> THE PERMIT WAS NOT APPROVED BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS IN A FLOOD WAY AND THEY WERE JUST NEEDING THAT FORM SIGNED AND JUST NEVER GOT SUBMITTED. >> AN ENGINEER HAS TO SIGN IT? >> THE OWNERS -- IT'S A FORM FOR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT THEY NEED A SIGNATURE ON. THEY SENT IT TO HIM A COUPLE OF TIMES AND THEY KEPT PROMISING THEY WERE GONNA SUBMIT IT AND NEVER DID. THAT'S THE QUESTION RIGHT NOW WITH IT BEING IN A FLOOD WAY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IT BEING DEMOLISHED. IT'S ONLY 700 SQUARE FEET SO THEY'RE FINDING IT NOT WORTH FLIPPING IT, THAT SMALL. >> THIS PERMIT COULD BE PERMIT TO DEMO OR PERMIT TO RENOVATE, RIGHT? >> CORRECT AT THIS POINT, YEAH. THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR ONE OR THE OTHER. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25-006036. ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE NUMBER 25-006036. OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. >> MOTION STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> WE GOT A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND >> WE GOT A MOTION BY MR. TANKERSLEY, SECOND BY MR. WYATT. ROLL CALL, PLEASE >> MR. WYATT >> YES >> MR. ALLRED >> YES >> MR. TANKERSLEY >> YES >> MR. MCNEILL >> YES >> MR. TURNER >> YES >> MR. DUNCAN >> YES >> AND MR. MCBRAYER [G. Case for Rehabilitation, Demolition, or Civil Penalties - Case #26-000511: 1841 N 6th St (W80 LTS 9 & 10 & W80 N12 LT 8 205 1 B FLETCHER OT ABL, TAYLOR COUNTY, TEXAS), Owner: Ignacio & Llolanda Padilla] >> YES >> MOTION PASSED >> ALL RIGHT. NEXT CASE, PLEASE. >> I'M ROBERT MARSH. FINAL CASE CASE NUMBER 26-000511 LOCATED 1841 NORTH 6TH STREET. CHECK LIST. RECORDS SHOW IGNACIO AND LLOLANDA PADILLA TO BE THE OWNERS. OCTOBER 2025 WAS THE LAST MONTH TO SHOW WATER USAGE FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT. LAST TIME I CHECKED, WHICH WAS MID MARCH. THIS IS THE PUBLIC NOTICE FOR THIS HEARING THAT WAS POSTED ON THE STRUCTURE. THIS IS THE FRONT NORTH SIDE. THE REAR SOUTH SIDE. THE EAST SIDE. AND THE WEST SIDE. THESE ARE THE SUBSTANDARD CODE VIOLATIONS THAT WE FOUND. INADEQUATE SANITATION, STRUCTURAL HAZARDOUS, NUISANCE, ELECTRICAL WIRING, FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION. BECAUSE OF THE INTERIOR CONDITIONS, WE COULDN'T INSPECT THE PLUMBING OR MECHANICAL. THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS AT OR INSIDE THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE HOUSE. THIS IS THE LIVING ROOM AREA. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CEILING LOOKS TO BE HELD UP BY RODS AND BOARDS. WE'VE GOT AN EXTREME HORDING CONDITION THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE. GOT FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION AND HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL. AGAIN, FAULTY WEATHER PROTECTION, HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO AND INSIDE OF THE BATHROOM, THE ONLY BATHROOM I WAS ABLE TO LOCATE. DOES NOT LOOK TO BE FUNCTIONAL. THIS IS PICTURE ON THE LEFT SHOWS AN EXTENSION CORD DROPPED FROM THE BATHROOM CEILING. PICTURE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM. THE OWNER HAD HIS ELECTRICIAN CUT POWER TO THE HOUSE AT THE BOX. THERE'S STILL POWER TO THE METER, THE OUTLET BELOW THE METER OR THE SOCKETS ARE ACTIVE. NOW THEY'VE RUN EXTENSION CORDS FROM THOSE ACTIVE OUTLETS INTO THE HOUSE, WHICH TELLS US THERE COULD BE PEOPLE STILL RESIDING IN THE HOUSE. PICTURE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS AN EXAMPLE OF THE EXTENSION CORDS BEING RUN THROUGH THE HOUSE. SOME OVERHEAD PHOTOS OF THE NUISANCE CONDITION SURROUNDING THE HOUSE. THE ACCUMULATION AND HARBOROUS CONDITIONS. THESE PHOTOS SHOW THE CONDITION OF THE ROOF AND WHY THE HOUSE BECAME CONDEMNED. [01:05:02] ALSO SHOWS THE SHED BY THE HOUSE AND THE CONDITION OF THAT ROOF. TIMELINE OF EVENTS. MARCH 18TH OF 2026 IS WHEN THE AFFIDAVIT OF CONDEMNATION WAS RECORDED AT THE COUNTY CLERK AND THE NOTICE WAS POSTED ON THE STRUCTURE. SO THE CONDEMNATION WAS COMPLETED AFTER VERIFYING MORE THAN ONE TIME WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THE PROPERTY WAS VACANT. WE CALLED THE PROPERTY OWNER TO INFORM HIM OF THE CONDEMNATION AND LATER I RECEIVED A VOICE MAIL FROM THE SECOND FEMALE PROPERTY OWNER TO INFORM US SHE'S STILL RESIDING IN THE PROPERTY. WE CONFIRMED THIS WITH THE MALE OWNER, WHO DECIDED WE NEEDED TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONDEMNATION DUE TO THE LEVEL OF THE DETERIORATION PRESENT IN THE HOUSE. OWNER LET US KNOW VERBALLY ON TEXT MESSAGE THE WISH TO APPEAL THE CONDEMNATION. BUT LATER HE CHANGED HIS MIND AND CONDEMNATION NOTICES WERE SENT TO BOTH OWNERS. MARCH 23RD OF 2026, WE RECEIVED AN ESTIMATE FOR THE ROOF RECOVERY FROM THE OWNER. WE WERE ALSO SENT SOME PHOTOS OF THE ELECTRICAL BOX ATTEMPTING TO SHOW HOW THE POWER WAS DISCONNECTED TO THE HOUSE. THERE'S STILL A POWER LINE GOING TO THE METER WHICH IS WHY POWER TO THE OUTLETS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE. THE CITY HAS NOT TERMINATED UTILITIES TO THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT COULD BE LIVED IN. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE FOR SURE. MARCH 23RD AGAIN, 2026 THE CITY CONTACTED THE ROOFING COMPANY THAT PROVIDED THE ESTIMATE. WE ASKED WHETHER THEY WERE ABLE TO INSPECT THE ROOF FRAMING SINCE THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THEIR ESTIMATE. THEY REPLIED THEY INSPECTED THE ROOF TO THE BEST THEY COULD BUT THEY REFUSED TO GET ON IT BECAUSE IT WAS TOO UNSTABLE. THEY WERE CONTACTED BASICALLY TO RECOVER THE ROOF AFTER THE FRAMING IS REPAIRED BY THE OWNER'S SON OR ANOTHER COMPANY. APRIL 7TH OF 2026 THE OWNER CAME INTO CITY HALL ATTEMPTING TO PULL A ROOF PERMIT FOR ROOF RECOVERING. HE TOLD THE OFFICER HELPING HIM THAT THE ROOF FRAMING WAS GOOD AND WE TOLD HIM THAT WE WERE INFORMED OTHERWISE. HE WAS NOT ISSUED A PERMIT THAT DAY. APRIL 8TH OF '26, IT WAS DETERMINED DUE TO THE DETERIORATION OF THE ROOF FRAMING ROOF CONTRACTOR SHOULD PULL THE PERMIT AND NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER SO THE CITY CAN BE ASSURED THAT THE CONTRACTOR WHO VERIFIED THE ROOF FRAMING IS IN GOOD REPAIR BEFORE INSTALLING THE ROOF COVERING. APRIL 10TH OF '26 WE NOTICED THE CONDEMNATION SIGN WAS REMOVED. WE REPOSTED CONDEMNATION NOTICE. AND THEN WE SENT NOTICE OF THIS HEARING TO BOTH OWNERS. APRIL 13TH OF '26, THE OWNER GAVE HIS FINAL DECISION VERBALLY THAT HE DOES NOT WISH TO APPEAL THE CONDEMNATION. HE REFUSED TO SIGN THE DECISION IN WRITING AS REQUESTED. I REQUESTED THE CITY BE ABLE TO CONDUCT AN INTERIOR INSPECTION OF THE PROPERT. HE SAID HE WOULD GET WITH HIS SON TO COME UP WITH A TIME BUT NEVER GOT BACK TO US. APRIL 17, 2026 WE WENT TO PROPERTY TO POST A NOTICE REQUESTING TIME FOR INSPECTION. PRIOR TO ARRIVING I CONTACTED THE OCCUPANT, OWNER, BY TEXT. I REQUESTED THE SCHEDULED INSPECTION. I TOLD THE OWNER I WAS GOING TO POST THE NOTICE AND WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO MEET US THERE. UPON ARRIVAL, THERE WERE SEVERAL EXTENSION CORDS BEING RUN FROM THE EXTERIOR OUTLETS, LIKE I HAD TOLD YOU. WHILE WE WERE ON SITE, OWNER CONTACTED HIS WIFE AND SON, AND WE WERE DENIED ACCESS. APRIL 22ND OF '26 WE DID A WARRANT INSPECTION. IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO ENTER THE HOUSE THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR WHICH SEEMED TO BE THE ONLY WAY IN. IT WAS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO WALK THROUGH THE HOUSE. THE ONLY WAY TO GET THROUGH THE HOUSE WAS TO WALK AND CLIMB ON STUFF THAT WAS PILED SEVERAL FEET HIGH. WE INSPECTED ALL THE ACCESSIBLE AREAS. WE DID NOT FIND A SLEEPING AREA, A KITCHEN, A BATHROOM THAT LOOKS FUNCTIONAL, HEATING AND COOLING SYSTEM OR A WATER HAOERT. THAT IS NOT TO SAY THERE WASN'T ANOTHER ENTRANCE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW OF THAT MAYBE HAD ACCESS TO A SLEEPING AREA OR A KITCHEN. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ORDER THE OWNER TO REPAIR. AND IF THIS IS DONE, 60 DAYS TO OBTAIN ROUGH-IN INSPECTIONS. AND IF THIS IS DONE ALL FINAL INSPECTIONS SHALL BE COMPLETED BY THE EXPIRATION OF ALL PERMITS. I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS CASE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. [01:10:02] >> I'M PART OWNER AND MY WIFE IS THE OTHER PART OWNER. IT WAS GIVEN TO HER IN A DIVORCE. BUT SINCE THEN, SHE TRANSFERRED FULL OWNERSHIP OF THE HOUSE TO ME. I'VE GOT THE PAPERWORK HERE. I JUST CAN'T GO TO THE COURTHOUSE BEING IN A WHEELCHAIR. I'VE COME TO THE CITY TWICE TO GET A PERMIT BECAUSE THEY TOLD ME I COULD GET A PERMIT. AND MR. MARSH WAS NOT HERE AT THAT DAY. ANOTHER GENTLEMAN TOLD ME I COULD NOT PULL A PERMIT. EVEN THOUGH THEY TOLD ME THAT I COULD IF I CAME DOWN I COULD PULL A PERMIT AND GET THE REPAIRS DONE. I'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THIS. I HAD ELECTRICITY DISCONNECTED BECAUSE HE CLAIMED IT WAS A FIRE HAZARDOUS EVEN THOUGH AN ELECTRICIAN REWIRED THE WHOLE HOUSE. THERE WERE TWO METERS THERE. IT WAS A DUPLEX. HE REWIRED IT AND MADE IT A SINGLE HOUSE. THE PLUMBING WAS REDONE. THE ROOF, IT WENT TO DISREPAIR. BUT I'VE BEEN IN AND OUT OF THIS -- I LOST MY LEG JUNE OF '24. BY A CAR, GOT RUN OVER BY A CAR. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MOVE AROUND LIKE I SHOULD. I'M GOING TO THERAPY NOW. IT'S A SLOW PROCESS. AND I ASKED THE VA TO HELP, AND I CAN'T GET A HISTOGRAM. TOLD ME TO CALL CITY. CITY TOLD ME I HAD TO HAVE THE HOUSE 100% IN MY NAME AND TAXES PAID BEFORE THEY COULD EVEN ENTERTAIN AN APPLICATION. I CALLED ROVING PLAINS, AND THEY SAID IN SEPTEMBER THEY COULD GO PUT A ROOF ON IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TIME LIMIT. I DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR, I'M NOT GIVEN THE TIME YET. I DON'T WANT TO CONDEMN THE HOUSE. I WANT TO FIX IT BECAUSE IT'S MY KIDS. THEY WERE BORN THERE. THEY WERE RAISED THERE. MY WIFE, MY EX-WIFE, AND MY SON WERE LIVING THERE AT THE TIME THEY CONDEMNED IT. AND MR. MARSH SAID, HOW COME YOU DIDN'T TELL ME YOUR WIFE WAS THERE? I SAID, YOU NEVER ASKED. YOU JUST CONDEMNED IT. I MEAN, THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION. THE TIMES THAT I HAVE TRIED TO CONTACT HIM, HE HAS NOT RETURNED MY CALLS. I SENT HIM THE TEXT OF WHEN THE ELECTRICIAN WENT AND DISCONNECTED THE ELECTRICITY TO THE HOUSE AND PUT PLUGS IN. I ASKED HIM PUT PLUGS IN SO I COULD PUT LIGHTS, KEEP THE VAGRANTS FROM BREAKING IN. AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL THIS OTHER CASES, YOU GOT PEOPLE BREAKING INTO HOUSES. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I GOT ANOTHER HOUSE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. I CAN'T GET AROUND LIKE I SHOULD. I'M GOING TO WEST TEXAS REHAB TO LEARN HOW TO WALK AGAIN, LIKE A LITTLE KID. BUT IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. I GOT A SHOP ON THE CORNER OF 8TH AND GRAPE. IT HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN SINCE JUNE 6TH WHEN I GOT RUN OVER RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS. MAN THAT RUN OVER ME HAD A DRIVER'S LICENSE BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE NO INSURANCE. HE DIDN'T GET CITED. HE DIDN'T GET CITED FOR NOTHING. I FOUND OUT MY DAUGHTER'S AN ATTORNEY. I FOUND OUT FROM MY DAUGHTER THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE NO INSURANCE. SO I CAN'T SUE NOBODY. I CAN'T GET COMPENSATION. GOOD THING I HAD THE VA TO PAY FOR MY HOSPITAL BILLS. AND THE TREATMENT. I'M TRYING TO GET THE HOUSE FIXED. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURES, BROWN SHINGLES PUT UP THERE BY A FRIEND OF MINE BEFORE ALL THIS HAD HAPPENED. [01:15:02] ALL THIS HAPPENED EVER SINCE I GOT, I LOST MY LEGS. I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE HOUSE. I DON'T WANT TO CONDEMN IT. I'VE HAD THREE PEOPLE CONTACT ME THAT THEY WANT TO BUY THE HOUSE. I DON'T WANT TO SELL IT. I WANT TO GIVE IT TO MY KIDS WHEN I PASS ON. SO I HAD MY WIFE, MY EX-WIFE, TRANSFER THE DEED INTO MY NAME BUT I GOT TO TAKE IT TO THE COURTHOUSE. THEN I GOTTA GO TO THE TAX OFFICE AND TAKE CARE OF THAT AND PAY THE $120 SHE OWES ON TAXES SO I CAN COME DOWN HERE AND GET AN APPLICATION. I TRIED TO GET A PERMIT. I'M NOT ALLOWED TO GET A PERMIT. I DON'T KNOW WHY. IT'S MY HOUSE. I WOULD LIKE TO GET A PERMIT. I GOT A BROTHER-IN-LAW LIVES IN HERRFORD. HE GOT KIN FOLK THAT ARE ROOFERS UP THERE. THEY'RE WILLING TO COME DOWN HERE AND FIX THE HOUSE IF I BUY THE MATERIALS. I SAID, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. I HAVEN'T WORKED IN GOING ON TWO YEARS NOW. STILL PAYING RENT AT THE SHOP. STILL PAYING UTILITIES AT THAT HOUSE, MY HOUSE, MY DAUGHTER-IN-LAW'S HOUSE. I'M STRAPPED FOR CASH BECAUSE I'M PAYING EVERYBODY'S BILLS. IT'S NOT EASY. >> UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT. SO RIGHT NOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE PLAN OF ACTION. SO YOU'D HAVE TO GET PLAN OF ACTION TOGETHER WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FOR THE HOUSE. YOU'D HAVE TO GET SOME COST ESTIMATES >> I GAVE MR. MARSH A PLAN OF ACTION >> OKAY. >> I GAVE HIM ESTIMATES FROM THE ROOFERS. I GAVE HIM PICTURES FROM THE ELECTRICIAN. THE PLUMBING HAS BEEN COMPLETELY REDONE ON THAT HOUSE. THERE IS A WATER HEATER. THERE IS, YOU KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW. BUT MY SON. HE'S A HORDER. HE'S GOT ALL THAT JUNK IN THERE. NOW HE'S CLEANING IT OUT. I WENT AND GOT A DUMPSTER FROM THE CITY SO HE COULD CLEAN OUT THE YARD. HE WAS LOADING IT UP THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CITY COME AND GOT IT. I DON'T KNOW. I'M FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE WITH THE CITY. I REALLY AM. I'VE GOTTEN FOUR, FIVE CITATIONS FROM MR. MARSH FOR THE SAME STUFF HE CONDEMNED THE HOUSE FOR. I GOT TO GO TO THE CITY. I WENT DOWN THERE AND TALKED TO THE JUDGE. HE SAID CALL HIM ON THE 19TH AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. IT'S NOT EASY FOR ME TO MOVE AROUND. RIGHT NOW THE ONLY REASON I CAME WAS BECAUSE CITY LINK FINALLY APPROVED ME TO BRING ME. I CAME MONDAY, I HAD A FRIEND BRING ME MONDAY BUT YOU ALL WEREN'T HERE MONDAY. LAST TIME I CAME DOWN THERE TO THE -- WHERE HE WORKS, IT TOOK ME 4.5 HOURS TO ROLL FROM GRAPE DOWN HERE IN A WHEELCHAIR. AND BACK. I'M JUST TOO OLD. I'M 79 YEARS OLD. I'M TRYING TO DO -- I'M TRYING TO COMPLY, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. I'VE ASKED EVERYBODY THAT I KNOW OF TO HELP ME. THEY DON'T WANT TO HELP ME BECAUSE I'M DISABLED. I'VE BEEN DISABLED VETERAN SINCE I CAME BACK FROM VIETNAM. BUT I WAS STILL WALKING. I WAS STILL FUNCTIONING. BUT NOW I CAN'T EVEN FUNCTION UNTIL I LEARN HOW TO WALK AGAIN. I DID ALL THE REPAIRS TO THAT HOUSE MYSELF. PLUMBING, GAS. I PUT NEW GAS LINES IN. I PUT NEW WATER LINES IN. THE ONLY THING I NEVER DID WAS REPAIR THE ROOF. IT WASN'T THAT BAD. MY SON CLAIMS SOME OF HIS FRIENDS, SO-CALLED FRIENDS, WENT OVER THERE AND DUG HOLES IN THE [01:20:02] ROOF TO GET IN THE HOUSE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I THINK HE GOT UP THERE HIGH ON DRUGS AND STARTED TEARING IT UP. YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN. I CAME TO THIS MEETING TO ASK Y'ALL FOR TIME >> RECOMMENDATION IS GIVING YOU MORE TIME. IT'S 30 DAYS FOR A PLAN OF ACTION, COST ESTIMATES. OS OF THAT STUFF. AT THAT POINT, ONCE IT GETS APPROVED, THEN YOU'D HAVE 60 DAYS TO START GETTING INSPECTIONS AND PULL PERMITS >> WELL, I'M DOING WHAT I CAN >> OKAY >> I GAVE HIM A PLAN OF ACTION WHEN I CAME TO TALK TO THAT MAN RIGHT THERE WITH THE BEARD >> OKAY >> I SHOWED HIM THE PLAN OF ACTION. HE SAID, WELL, THIS IS NOT SUFFICIENT. >> THEY'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED, IF YOU NEED TO ADD STUFF TO IT >> HUH? >> THEY'LL TELL YOU WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO IT IF IT'S NOT ENOUGH >> WELL, THEY TOLD ME I HAD TO WAIT UNTIL MR. MARSH CAME IN. AND THEN I CALLED HIM AND HE AIN'T NEVER RETURNED MY CALLS. AND HE GOT MAD AT ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T TELL HIM MY EX-WIFE WAS STILL LIVING THERE >> DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. PADILLA? >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU, >> AT THIS TIME I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION OR MOTION. >> I MOVE WE FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> GOT A MOTION BY MR. MCNEILL TO ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION >> SECOND >> SECOND BY MR. TURNER. ROLL CALL, PLEASE >> MR. WYATT >> YES >> MR. ALLRED >> YES >> MR. TANKERSLEY >> YES >> MR. MCNEILL >> YES >> MR. TURNER >> YES >> MR. DUNCAN >> YES >> AND MR. MCBRAYER >> YES >> MOTION PASSES. >> THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING FOR TODAY. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.