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HEARING NONE, THAT PASSES. THAT IS GREAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE, AIRPORT MANAGEMENT REPORTS.

>> THANK YOU, AND GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY, SEEMS LIKE IT HAS BEEN FOREVER, WE DID SKIP THE APRIL MEETING, BUT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME IT SEEMS, SO GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

WE HAVE OUR STATISTICAL REPORTS, MARCH AND APRIL ARE IN YOUR PACKETS. SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO TO APRIL, APRIL WILL BE THE FULL MONTH OF SKYWEST OPERATING IN THERE. THAT THEY DID START AND AN EXPRESSED SERVICE IN MARCH 17TH TO DENVER TWICE A DAY AND HOUSTON INTERCONTINENTAL ONCE A DAY.

YOU CAN SEE AND HEAR THAT THE FULL MONTHS OF APRIL ENVOY WHICH IS OUR AMERICAN EAGLE SERVICE WAS A 70% LOAD TRACKER, THEY WERE UP 3% OVER APRIL OF LAST YEAR, FOR THE REVENUE PASSENGERS AND THEN WE HAD SKYWEST WITH A LOAD FACTOR OF 49%.

AND THAT IS COMBINING THE TWO DESTINATIONS.

DENVER IS PERFORMING A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN HOUSTON RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THAT WE KIND OF EXPECTED THAT, BUT WE ARE SEEING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE ADVANCE BOOKINGS THAT SKYWEST IS SENDING US, THEY ARE IMPROVING EVERY MONTH LOOKING OUT INTO THE RIGHT TO NOW JULY. SO EACH MONTH IS PERFORMING BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS MONTH, APRIL PERFORMED SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN MARCH, AND MAY IS PERFORMING SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN APRIL, PROBABLY BY THE TIME WE GET THROUGH MAY I WOULD BET THAT WE ARE PROBABLY AT AN AVERAGE OF 60% LOAD FACTOR WHICH IS GOOD. IT'S NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE, BUT IT IS AN IMPROVEMENT. AND THEN SO FAR IN ADVANCE WITH THAT HIGHER THAN MAY. JULY IS GOING TO BE COMING IN REALLY ABOUT WHERE JUNE IS THE WAY THAT IT IS LOOKING RIGHT NOW TRENDING. BUT WE WILL SEE THOSE AND THE ACTUAL STATISTICS AFTER EACH MONTH AND THE REPORTS AS THEY COME TO YOU LATER ON IN THE SUMMER.

BUT OVERALL, AFTER A RECORD YEAR IN 2025, WE ARE UP 13 PERCENT FOR THE YEAR IN 2026 YEAR TO DATE.

SO, WE ARE ON TRACK FOR ANOTHER RECORD YEAR.

WHICH WE ARE COUNTING ON THAT. >> ARE WE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE PREVIOUS CONSENSUS WAS WITH THE MEETING'S?

>> NOT YET, WE HAVE A CALL SCHEDULE OF OUR AIR CONSULTANT AND A SCHEDULE WITH AMERICAN AIRLINES NEXT WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT TO THEIR ADVANCE BOOKINGS AS WELL. SO WE WILL SEE IF THEY WILL SHARE THOSE WITH US. THEY MAY NOT, IT IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION WITH AMERICAN, SKYWEST SINCE THERE IS THE MINIMUM REVENUE GUARANTEED, THE MRG IN PLACE, SKYWEST IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN WITH THEIR DATA THAN THEY WOULD BE WITH A CITY THAT THEY WERE OPERATING IN WITHOUT THE AVERAGE SO THEY ARE BEING PRETTY OPEN WITH THE DATA THAT NORMALLY WE WOULD NOT SEE.

LIKE THIS IS NOT DATA THAT WHAT I SHARED WITH YOU IS NOT DATA

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THAT WE GET FROM AMERICAN AT ANY TIME.

SO ANYWAY, BUT THAT'S REALLY DUE TO THE REVENUE GEARED IN PLACE.

AND THAT IS TO HELP US IF WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR MARKETING, THINGS LIKE THAT IF WE ARE NOT SEEING THOSE NUMBERS THAT WE WANT TO SEE, WHICH WE ARE STILL LAGGING BEHIND EXPECTATIONS, BUT NOT BY MUCH. PARKING LOT REVENUE IS UP 37% OVER APRIL OF LAST YEAR AND THEN AT 276% OVER THE YEAR TO DATE.

SO AND THEN OUR RENTAL REVENUES AGAIN EVEN HIGHER AT ABOUT 43% OVER THE LAST YEAR. SO VERY, VERY GOOD PERFORMANCE FINANCIALLY OVER THIS PAST MONTH AND YEAR TO DATE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE STATISTICS?

>> YOU MIGHT BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MARKETING AND JUST A MOMENT, BUT HOW IS THAT GROUP DOING, I'VE SEEN SOME BILLBOARDS AND STUFF AROUND, BUT WHAT ELSE ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE THAT FOLKS DO KNOW ABOUT THESE NEW ROUTES?

>> MOST OF OUR AD SPEND HAS BEEN ON DIGITAL ADS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, FACEBOOK IS THE ONLY PLACE I SEE IT, BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY FACE THE LAMENT PLACE I AM, AND I GUESS IT'S REALLY WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING AT, AND THINGS LIKE THAT I TRY TO ENGAGE WITH WHEN I SEE THEM, BUT I HAVE SEEN THAT PICKUP.

I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IT AT FIRST AND TALK TO THEM AND THEY MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS, BUT EVERY TIME ON FACEBOOK I GET DELIVERED AN AD, AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I HAVE INTERACT WITH, BUT THE BILLBOARD ADS ARE NEW WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS BUT UNLIKE HAVING THAT VISIBILITY AROUND TOWN JUST SO, ANYWAY, AND HAVE A -- THE AD REP WE TALK WITH HIM WHERE WE HAVE A CALL WITH HIM NEXT MONDAY AND TALKING ABOUT ANY OPPORTUNITIES TO TWEET OUR ADVERTISING AND KIND OF GET SOME OF THE METRICS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SEEING OFF OF THE DIGITAL

ADS FOR SURE. >> THANK YOU.

ON OUR REPORT FROM MAY, MAY 5TH, DATED MAY 5TH, YOU CAN SEE THAT ALEX HAS ADDED SKYWEST TO THIS AS WELL.

I CAN'T SAY THAT PRICES, FARES HAVE COME DOWN.

THAT WAS NOT REALLY NECESSARILY AN EXPECTATION THAT WE HAD.

WE HOPE THAT WE WOULD SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DROP BUT YOU HAVE TWO AIRLINES THAT HAVE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME PRICING MODELS, SO IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE -- LIKE ONE IS LOSING MARKET SHARE TO THE OTHER, THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE PRICING ADJUSTMENTS TO BE COMPETITIVE.

THAT'S A HEALTHY MARKETS. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE REALLY SEEN A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN OUR AIRFARES. NOW ON TOP OF THIS, WE HAVE GOD TO FUEL PRICES BEING VERY HIGH RIGHT NOW, SO THAT IS A FACTOR IN THIS, ALL AIRFARES ARE IRONED OUT IN NETWORK THREE MONTHS AGO.

AND PROBABLY WE WILL SEE THAT THROUGH THE SUMMER HAS LONG AS SITUATIONS ARE NOT UNLEASHED AS UNSTABLE.

BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE COMPETITION HERE AND FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, I'VE TAKEN SEVERAL TRIPS AND HAVE SEEN COMPETITIVE FARES AND SOME FAIRS ON MY TRIP TO L.A. LAST WEEK.

THE PAIR THAT I GOT FOR THAT TRIP WAS PRETTY GOOD AND I WAS PLEASED WITH THAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS.

>> AM I LOOKING AT THIS CORRECT, DENVER AMERICAN IS 388, SKYWEST

IS 656. >> I SEE 69 FOR DENVER, 14 DAYS OUT, AMERICA'S 388 AND THEN UNITED IS 369.

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>> 369. >> THAT'S ON THE 14 DAYS OUT.

ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE -- LETS MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT -- THE ONE THAT IS DATED MAY 5TH?

>> YOU ARE IN A DIFFERENT MONTH. >> OH, THIS IS --

THAT'S WHAT IT IS. >> I WAS LOOKING AT 369.

BUT THIS IS OKAY, ALL RIGHT. JUST CHECKING.

>> YES, SO THAT IS LAST MONTH'S REPORT, BUT I DO SEE THAT 656.

>> I THINK IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE AS LAST MONTH AND THAT'S QUITE A DISPARITY, RIGHT? AND A BOUNCE FROM THE VFW STILL, BUT AT 388 THAT IS A BALANCE WORTH TAKING.

>> I AGREE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAY HAVE

BEEN AN ANOMALY, WHO KNOWS. >> UNLESS YOU ARE STILL LOOKING

AT THAT'S CORRECTLY. >> I'M LOOKING AT APRIL'S, APRIL

WAS THE FIRST MONTH. >> I SEE WHAT HE IS TALKING

ABOUT. >> 656 ON SIX DAYS OUT VERSUS

THE 388. >> NOW IT'S CHEAPER IN MAY.

>> YES. >> WE ARE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, AM I LOOKING AT THAT MATH CORRECTLY? WITH A BIG DISPARITY.

>> THAT WAS IN AND ANOMALY OF SOME TYPE, BUT IT DID GET STRAIGHTENED OUT OVER THE LAST 30 DAYS.

BUT WE WILL KEEP AN EYE ON IT. >> OKAY.

>> YOU MAY RECALL WHEN WE FIRST ANNOUNCED THE UNITED SERVICE IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UNITED DID NOT HAVE THAT PRICING SET IN THE FIRST -- THAT FIRST DAY IT WAS WAY OUT OF KILTER AND IT WAS A BAD START. FRANKLY.

YES, YES. AND THAT WAS NEAR PRICING, UNITED HAD NOT MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

BUT BY MIDNIGHT TO THAT TONIGHT THEY HAD SHOWED UP, I SAW THE NEXT MORNING AT 7:00 A.M. AND GOT CORRECTED, BUT IT WAS NOT A

GOOD START. >> NO, ALMOST FORWARD GP AND I

WAS LIKE, I'M NOT DOING THAT. >> AS I RECALL YOU HAD MENTIONED YOU LOOKED INTO IT AND THAT THEY WERE GETTING READY TO MAKE AN

ADJUSTMENT. >> YES, THEY CALLED IT AT -- WE BROUGHT IT TO THEIR ATTENTION AND THEY CREATED AT THAT DAY.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON OUR STATISTICAL REPORTS AND THE PRICING? OKAY, SO ON REGULATORY LEGISLATIVE TSA FUNDING, SO LAST WEEK THE TSA WAS FUNDED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH, SO THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, SO WE ARE GOOD UNTIL THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR FEDERALLY WITH THEM, GLAD TO HAVE THAT TAKEN CARE OF IS A RELIEF OFF OF EVERYBODY'S MIND. PARTICULARLY THE TSA EMPLOYEES WHO AGAIN, I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH OF, THEY SHOWED UP FOR WORK AND THEY DID THEIR JOBS AND WITH A SMILE ON THEIR FACE, SO KUDOS TO THEM. I AM VERY PROUD OF THEM.

WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND WAS VERY GLAD TO HAVE THOSE FOLKS IN THE TERMINAL WORKING WITH US.

THE AIRPORT ACCESS ROAD, I HAVE PICTURES OF THAT YESTERDAY I MEANT TO EMAIL THEM TO YOU GUYS GOT A CHANCE TO DO IT.

BUT IT IS AMAZING THE PROGRESS AND I WILL SEND THAT OUT THIS EVENING. BUT THE PROGRESS IS TREMENDOUS FOR THAT ROAD IS PROBABLY TWO-THIRDS PAVED ALREADY WITH CONCRETE ON THE GROUND. AND THEN EXCAVATION IS NOW ALL THE WAY TO HIGHWAY 36 AND THEY ARE WORKING ON THE TURN LANES IN SUCH, SO IT HAS GONE AMAZINGLY FAST AND IT'S JUST A FEW HICCUPS WITH SOME UTILITY CUTS, BUT THOSE SEEM TO BE CORRECTED

PRETTY QUICKLY. >> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION

ABOUT THAT PROJECT? >> YES.

WHEN WE WERE APPROVING FUNDS FOR THAT, DO WE DISCUSS ANY SIDING

AT THE ENTRANCE? >> THERE IS A PACKAGE AS A PART OF THAT INCLUDING A BASICALLY AN AIRPORT ENTRANCE SIGN THAT IS BASED OFF OF WHAT WE HAD AND OUR USE PLAN THAT IS IN THAT --

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AND THE CONTRACT AND I WILL BE GLAD TO PULL THAT OUT WITH YOU AS WELL. THE AIRCRAFT RAMP PROJECT THAT THE AIR TANKER RAMP IS CLOSE TO COMPLETION.

WE HAVE BEEN STUCK IN A NEAR COMPLETION TYPE OF SITUATION WITH THE CONTRACTOR DOING LITTLE THINGS, BUT MOST OF THE CREWS HAVE PULLED OFF AND ARE JUST DOING -- TAKING CARE OF EROSION AND SOME SODDING CLEANUP STUFF WHERE WE HAD THEM DO SOME EXTRA ROAD SHOULDER WORK, BUT THE PROJECT IS VERY, VERY NEAR COMPLETION PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE WILL SCALE JEWELS GOING NEXT SCHEDULE AND WE SETTLED WITH THE TEXAS A&M FORCE WITH THEM, AND WE WILL SETTLE A RIBBON-CUTTING FOR THAT PROJECT THAT WILL BE PROBABLY THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT.

BUT I WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING RECOGNIZED FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN PARTICULAR.

OUTSTANDING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS ARE ONE OF OUR REVOLVING DOORS IS OUT OF SERVICE AND HAS BEEN FOR PROBABLY A WEEK AND A HALF NOW, AND FOLKS ARE GOING THROUGH DIAGNOSTICS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON. WE HAD HIRED A COMPANY AND/OR SPECIALIST COMPANY COMING FROM THE PLEX, THEY WERE NOT THAT HELPFUL, BUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ELIMINATION WITH THAT. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

SO, I WILL NOW ASK: TO COME UP AND WALK YOU THROUGH THE TERMINAL AND SO I HAD ASKED LESLIE AND CREW, THEY ARE DIRECTORS WITH THE CITY OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH, LESLIE IS THE INVOLVE HER OF PERKS AND RECORD TO DO THIS DESIGN PROCESS, LESLIE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE BUILDING BUILDINGS AND SHE FACILITATES MAINTENANCE AS PART OF HER DEPARTMENT, AND SO LESLIE HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN OUR DESIGN MEETINGS AND WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE PROJECT, I ASKED ANNETTE TO HELP WITH THE INTERIOR DESIGN PORTION OF IT, WHICH IS NOT MY STRONG POINT, AND SO SHE HAS BEEN A TROOPER AND HELPED US WITH SELECTING SOME OF THE FINISHES AND STUFF THAT YOU WILL SEE.

I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH OF OUR ARCHITECTS TEAM, CALL IN AND THE FOLKS AT PARKHILL AND THEIR SUBS.

THEY HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB PUTTING THIS PROJECT TOGETHER.

AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, WHAT THIS THING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AS WE HAVE DESIGNED IT WITH THE MAGIC OF TECHNOLOGY NOW WE WILL WALK THROUGH WHAT THIS THING WILL LOOK LIKE AS WE ARE REALLY CLOSE TO IT. AND WE WANT TO YOUR FEEDBACK, JAMES, WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT COVER OVER THE SIDEWALK. YOU ARE GOING TO SEE WHERE IT EXTENDS AND ANYWAY, THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT AND LOOK AT IT CRITICALLY TO GO THROUGH IT AND -- BECAUSE WE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT -- IT MAY BE NEXT MONTH, IT MAY BE JULY, BUT WE WILL BRING YOU THE FIRST PACKAGE OF THE EXPANSION PACKAGE 1 FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO GO TO COUNSEL WITHIN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS. SO --

>> THANK YOU FOR SAYING TEAM, BECAUSE IT IS NOT JUST ME, THERE IS ABOUT 30 PEOPLE ON THE TEAM THAT ARE MAKING THIS HAPPENING, AND THAT'S JUST INTERNAL TO OUR CONTRACT, SO THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED ON THIS TO MAKE EVERYTHING HAPPEN.

SO I WILL START, ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE SCREEN? OKAY, COOL. SO I WILL START ON WHAT IS NOW THE LOWER DRIVE AND WILL REMAIN THE LOWER DRIVE, SO AS YOU APPROACH THE FACILITY, THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE.

SO AS YOU ARE DRIVING UP, YOU WOULD HAVE A COVERED WALKWAY ALONG THE SIDEWALK THERE. AND SO YOU CAN SEE A REPRESENTATION OF A CAR HERE, BUT AS YOU DRIVE UP, YOU WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT, UNLOAD, AND HAVE THAT COVERED CANOPY TO WALK THE LENGTH UP TO THE AIRPORT IF YOU NEEDED THAT.

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WE WILL BE MIGRATING THE UPPER DRIVE AND LOWER DRIVE INTO ONE SINGLE DRIVE TO COMPENSATE FOR THE AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR EVERYBODY THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A LONG DRIVE THAT IS BEING GUIDED A LITTLE BIT, AND WE ARE ADDING A CANOPY, THE CANOPY IS EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT GOES INTO IT, BUT OVERALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROVIDE SOME CANOPY TO THE FURTHEST EXTENT AS POSSIBLE TO ALLOW EVERYONE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IN THOSE FEW DAYS IT RAINS WHERE IT'S JUST POURING DOWN CATS AND DOGS. MOST OF US, WE ALL TEND TO GO ACROSS THE CENTER SPINE RIGHT HERE, AND SO IF YOU WERE WALKING FROM THE PARKING LOT, WE WOULD TYPICALLY WALK IN WHERE THAT ESCALATOR CURRENTLY IS AND THAT WOULD GO AWAY FROM THERE IT GOES AWAY AND YOU END UP WITH TWO REVOLVING DOORS AND A LARGER MANUAL DOOR IN THE MIDDLE IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THAT SPACE. WE HAVE BOLLARDS SPECIFICALLY SET UP IN THE KEY AREA HERE TO HELP PROTECT THE FRONT DOOR ENTRY. MAINLY BECAUSE WHAT YOU ARE NOT SEEING IN THIS RIGHT HERE IS AS YOUR PEDESTRIANS ARE WALKING OUT TO THIS, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO RAMP DOWN TO THE DRIVING LEVEL, IT WILL BE ERASED WHAT WE CALL SPEED FIGURE, SO ANY CARS HAVE TO SLOW DOWN, OTHERWISE THEY WILL END UP IN THE AIR, BUT AS A PEDESTRIAN, THOSE ARE YOUR SAFE SPOTS.

SO THOSE WILL HELP PROTECT THOSE DOORS, THOSE ENTRY POINTS, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE A VEHICLE COULD DRIVE UP ONTO THE MAIN SIDEWALK. SO WE WANT TO PROTECT AS BEST WE CAN. THE LENGTH OF THE TERMINAL FROM EAST TO WEST HERE, WE HAVE A STANDARD TERMINAL FOR THESE VEHICLES FROM POPPING UP. IT WILL HAPPEN OCCASIONALLY, BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. AS YOU COME IN, WE WILL GO THROUGH A REVOLVING DOOR HERE. AS YOU COME IN, THOSE WILL BE NEW, WE ARE NOT REUSING THE EXISTING.

THEY WILL BE THE SAME SIZE. >> THE CURB OUT IN FRONT, WILL THERE BE ANY CUTS TO HAVE A RAMP SO YOU CAN ROLL YOUR --

>> AT THE CURB? >> NO, SIR.

IT IS A SINGLE CONTINUOUS CURB THE WHOLE LENGTH, BECAUSE IT IS A DRIVE, WE COULD LOOK AT ADDING CURB CUTS IF YOU WANTED --

>> BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF BAGS THAT PEOPLE ROLL UP -- AND I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT MYSELF GETTING MY BAG UP, BUT SHE HAS THE BIG BAG AND NOW I HAVE TO MANAGE THAT BIG BAG. JUST KIND OF FOR A CONVENIENCE.

>> YES, SO MAYBE THE WIDTH OF WHAT IS THERE AT FRONT --

>> JUST IN FRONT OF THAT SPOT. >> I THINK THERE'S AN

OPPORTUNITY THERE. >> THIS IS JUST WHAT WE HAVE NOW

NOW. >> BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TREAD THEIR BAGS UP THAT, THE ROLLING BAGS, NO MATTER WHAT, A SMALL BAG, BIG BAG, WHATEVER IT IS.

AND I HAVE SEEN WHEN I TRAVEL, I HAVE SEEN WOMEN DOING BAGS AND IT'S NOT JUST WOMEN, RIGHT, IT'S PRIMARILY THE WOMEN THAT ARE HANDLING A BIG BAG AND TRYING TO GET IT IN, THEY ARE HAVING A HARD ENOUGH TIME, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE PERSON AND THEY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS BIG BAG.

AND THAT'S CAN BE A SENSE OF FRUSTRATION FOR THEM.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THOSE LITTLE -- WHAT YOU CALL THOSE LITTLE ROUND CIRCULAR THAT RUN UP THERE, WHAT IS THAT CALLED? THOSE ARE --

>> I DO TOO, BUT THEY ARE AN ADA REQUIREMENT, THAT IS IN ADI.

>> BUT I WOULD EVEN TAKE THOSE OVER NONE, JUST FOR A SENSE OF YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THAT'S MORE EASY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THE WAY IT IS NOW, IT'S FLAT.

>> HOW TALL IS THAT? >> 6 INCHES.

>> IT LOOKS PRETTY TALL. >> BUT I GOT IT, WE MADE THE NOTE, WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE AT LEAST WHERE IT'S WHERE THEY ARE.

>> YES, I MEAN, JUST FOR THAT SECTION, I'M NOT SAYING DO IT FOR EVERYTHING AND I KNOW WE WANT SECURITY, BUT WE ALREADY

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HAVE THE BARRIER POLLS OUT THERE, SO HOPEFULLY WE WOULD NOT BE ASKING FOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ESPECIALLY FOR YOUR PASSAGE THEY ARE, HAVING PUT ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THAT WITH

THE FLOW IS REALLY -- >> NO, I APPRECIATE THE INPUT.

IT'S A REASON WE ARE DOING THIS. >> AND I KNOW THIS IS JUST A RENDERING, BUT THE WAY THAT THE RENDERING I AM READING IT IT'S ALMOST LIKE THERE IS TWO 6-INCH THINGS TO GET UP.

>> IT WOULD BE A SINGLE MARKER. >> OKAY.

>> STANDARD CURB IF YOU PARKED HERE ON THE WEST SIDE.

>> THAT LOWER PIECE IS THAT LIKE A GUTTER.

>> YES, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A VARIATION OF THE

CURB. >> AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, WHERE WOULD SOMEONE WITH A WHEELCHAIR GET UP?

>> ARE ACCESSIBLE PARKING WOULD BE BACK HERE, SO YOU CAN COME IN THIS WAY USING THE ACCESSIBLE PATH AND THE EXISTING SIDEWALK AND THEN HE WOULD COME THROUGH THIS LOCATION.

>> SO THERE WOULD ALREADY BE A SPOT THAT WOULD NOT HAVE THE CURB. BUT JUST A SINGULAR SPOT.

>> WE ARE JUST SAYING WE WANTED IT WIDER TO COVER THE WHOLE

DOORWAY. >> THREE MAJOR DOORS COMING IN THERE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BOTTLENECK, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE OR TWO PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OUT YOU HAVE TO UTILIZE THAT 12-FOOT PATH. ESSENTIALLY --

>> WE NEED TO REDESIGN US SO IT IS --

>> WE WILL EXPAND THAT AESTHETIC AESTHETIC.

>> YES, JUST IN FRONT OF THE DOORS.

OKAY, WE CAN GO IN NOW. >> SUCCUMBING ON INSIDE TO THE LEFT IS GOING TO BE ALL THE AIRLINE TICKETING SPACES.

THERE ARE KIOSKS, THERE ARE COUNTERS THERE, THAT WOULD BE THIS ZONE AND I HOPE I DID NOT JUST BREAK IT.

THAT WOULD BE THE ZONE OVER THERE FOR BEING ABLE TO CHECK YOUR BAGGAGE, PUNCH YOUR TICKET AND OVER TO THE RIGHT I'M GOING TO REFRESH, BUT OVER TO THE LEFT IS THE RENTAL CAR COUNTER, THIS IS DESIGNED SO WHEN YOU COME IN THE CENTRAL AREA YOU HAVE IS THE GLASS ELEVATOR, SO YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WHERE YOU GO UP OR DOWN SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO LOOK INSIDE AS YOU NORMALLY WOULD AND SLOPE DOWN TO GO TO THE BAGGAGE HANDLING AREA OR YOU COULD TAKE THE STAIRS OR ELEVATOR UP AND GO TO SECURITY CHECKPOINT.

SO I WILL WALK OVER HERE, AND WE WILL CHECK OUT THE AIRLINE TAKING SPACE. THIS IS FACING NORTH, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT NATURAL LIGHT COMING INTO THE SPACE.

ABOVE THERE IS A MEZZANINE LEVEL THAT ALLOWS THOSE FOLKS WAITING TO BE ABLE TO OVERLOOK AND MEET UP WITH HER GROUP IF THEY ARE ALL WAITING TO FLY OUT. BEHIND THIS ZONE ARE ALL OF THE AIRLINE TICKETING OFFICES BUT IT'S COMPARABLE SPACE TO WHAT IS

CURRENTLY OUT THERE. >> JUST REALLY QUICK, LIKE RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SECOND LEVEL WE HAVE AMERICAN ON THE RIGHT AND THEN UNITED ON THE LEFT, SO THERE WOULD BE THAT MUCH SPACE, WHAT IF THERE EVER HOPEFULLY WERE TO

HAVE A THIRD COME IN? >> WE HAVE A THIRD COUNTER AND A THIRD OFFICE, LIKE WE DO NOW. AND THEN OVER HERE, KEEP GOING OVER HERE, SO YOU WILL SEE WHERE THE CURSOR IS, THAT IS AN OPEN DESK AREA THAT WE HAVE RESERVED FOR CHARTERS, SO WHEN THE CHARTERS GO IN AND OUT, THERE IS A PLACE FOR QUEUING FOR THAT.

>> AMERICAN HAS ASKED FOR A TWO DOUBLE COUNTERS, SO IDEALLY THIS IS THERE SPACE RIGHT HERE AND SKYWEST WOULD BE THIS NEXT COUNTER OVER AND THEN PLANNING FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE AT SOME POINT, THERE IS A DOUBLE COUNTER.

ONE THING WE ALL NOTICE IS WHEN YOU CHECK YOUR BAG IT GOES INTO THIS THAT IS QUITE VISIBLE, IN THIS SCENARIO, THAT IS ACTUALLY ALL BEHIND THE SCENES. THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE STANDARD PROCESS AS THERE IS A BAGGAGE BELT BEHIND THE COUNTER HERE. AS IT'S BEHIND THE SCENES.

>> DID YOU GET AMERICANS AND UNITED'S INFO ON THE OFFICE

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SPACE? >> YES, THEY WERE INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN OF THE SPACES. AS WELL AS THE CAR RENTAL

COMPANIES. >> THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.

BECAUSE IF WE GET BEHIND. >> 23 TIMES WITH BOTH PARTIES.

>> OKAY, GOOD. SO WE WILL GO CHECK OUT RENTAL CAR AND THEN HEAD ON UPSTAIRS, RENTAL CAR, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY ENTERPRISE VERSUS APHIDS, VERSUS HURTS.

>> THEY ALL WANTED IDENTICAL COUNTERS, SO THERE IS NO

DIFFERENCE IN SPACES FOR THOSE. >> BUT THERE ARE ONLY THREE COUNTERS OVER HERE. IT ALSO HAS A MEZZANINE SPACE.

SO LIKE ANY OTHER PASSENGER, EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH SECURITY, SO YOU TAKE THE STAIRS UP.

AS SOON AS YOU COME UP HERE, THERE IS OUR SECURITY CHECKPOINT, BEHIND THAT QUALITY MAKER, THERE IS A SMALL BENDING LOCATION RIGHT HERE. AND I MENTIONED THE MEZZANINE SPACES, THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE CURRENTLY AND THEN OVER ALL ON THE EAST SIDE, THOSE ARE LOOKING BACK DOWN.

AS YOU MIGRATE INTO THE FACILITY WHERE YOU CUT THE LINE TODAY, AND HOPEFULLY YOU GO THROUGH SECURITY AND THEN YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE ACTUAL PROCESS. MOST OF THE SPACES OF THE ROOMS OVER TO THE LEFT ARE ALL TSA, THERE IS AN OFFICE SAID THAT IS A TSA TRAINING OFFICE. ALL TSA BREAK ROOM OFFICE ARE FUNCTIONS OVER HERE, SO THAT ALLOWS HIM TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE THEY ARE ACTUALLY OPERATING INSTEAD OF DOWNSTAIRS TODAY WHERE THEY ARE. AFTER YOU GET DONE WITH SECURITY, MIGRATE THROUGH A LOT OF NATURAL DAYLIGHTING INTO THE FACILITY, SO EVEN ON A DARK DAY YOU WILL STILL HAVE A LOT OF NATURAL LIGHT IN THAT SPACE. AS YOU LEAVE SECURITY, YOU'RE HEADING INTO THE OTHER AREA, SO WHEN YOU GET TO THIS ROOM, THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE. YOU HAVE GLASS, THAT WHOLE SOUTH FACING WALL, AND THEN YOU HAVE EACH GATE ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES, BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, WE ARE KEEPING MOST OF THAT WITH THE COLUMNS, DOING WHAT WE CAN TO WORK THROUGH THAT. ONE OF THE AVENUES WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY IS HAVING DIFFERENT TYPES OF SEATING, FLEX EATING. WE HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH THE FURNITURE PROCESS YET, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF SEATING ARRANGEMENTS FOR ALL TYPES OF PASSENGERS, WHETHER YOUR BUSINESS AND YOU GET THERE AT 6:00 A.M. FLIGHT AND YOU ARE STILL PREPPING FOR YOUR 9:00 A.M. MEETING IN DALLAS, OR PHOENIX OR WHEREVER IT MAY BE, YOU MIGHT BE WORKING, OR MAYBE YOU ARE GETTING READY TO GO ON A TRIP WITH FAMILY AND -- I HAVE THREE KIDS, SO I WOULD PROBABLY BE OVER HERE AS THEY NEED MORE SPACE.

>> THE VENDING MACHINE IS NOT THERE.

>> IT IS A ROGUE VENDING MACHINE, I'M SORRY.

THERE IS A BENDING LOCATION THAT IS RIGHT HERE THOUGH.

SO THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A VENDING MACHINE, A SMALL COUNTER FOR MICROWAVE AND TRASH OVER HERE.

CURRENTLY ON BOTH THE EAST AND WEST SIDES, THERE IS THE STAIRWELL THAT GOES DOWN AND OUT.

THAT IS AN EMERGENCY EGRESS EXITING AND WE WOULD STILL HAVE THAT, THE DIFFERENCE IS WHERE OUR BUILDING STARTS TO EXPAND, WE END UP WITH A FAMILY LOUNGE SPACE AND THEN WE HAVE A MOTHER'S ROOM AND THEN A JANITOR'S ROOM AND THEN FURTHER ON THE WEST SIDE WE HAVE A SPACE, SO THERE IS MORE THAN A COUPLE OF TOILETS, TWO IN THE MEN'S, A CHANGING STATION FOR BABIES, THREE LAVATORIES, SIMILAR TO THE RESTROOM RENOVATION THAT WAS RECENTLY DONE IN THE ENABLING PHASE, TRYING TO MATCH MOST OF THOSE FEATURES AND UPDATE THAT.

AND THEN FURTHER TO LEFT OVER HERE, THERE IS ANOTHER FAMILY RESTROOM SO THAT WAY IF YOU NEED LIKE I HAVE THREE KIDS, TRAVELING WITH ALL THREE, IT'S NICE TO GRAB THEM ALL IN ONE SPACE. SO AS YOU ARE AT THE GATE, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO ABOVE TODAY, I GUESS.

AS YOU ARE AT THE GATE, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK OUT AT ANY AIRCRAFT COMING IN. IT DOES NOT LIKE THAT AT THIS TIME. AN AIRCRAFT CANNOT SIT LIKE THAT AT THIS GATE. IT'S FACING THE WRONG WAY ON

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THAT ONE. THIS WOULD BE ABOUT WHAT YOU

TYPICALLY SEE EVEN TODAY. >> HOW MANY GATES WHERE THE BE?

>> THERE PLANNED TO PASSENGER BOARDING, WE STILL HAVE TWO OTHER DOORS THAT CAN BE USED AS GATES AS NEEDED FOR CHARTERS, I BELIEVE, OR IF A BOARDING BRIDGE WENT DOWN.

WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF GATES, WE ARE RELOCATING THE JET BRIDGES, SO WE ARE KEEPING THE JET BRIDGES THAT WE HAVE, WE JUST REPLACE THOSE WITH REBUILT ONES IN '22, SO THEY ARE PRACTICALLY BRAND-NEW, FUNCTIONALLY THEY ARE BRAND-NEW.

SO WE WILL RELOCATE THEM WITH THE BUILDING EXPANSION.

SO WE WILL STILL HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF BRIDGES.

AND IT'S THE SAME NUMBER OF GATES.

>> DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS TO SAY HOW MANY -- WHAT THE DIMENSIONS ARE OF THE NEW WAITING AREA VERSUS THE

PRESENT WAITING AREA? >> WE DID NOT HAVE THE DIMENSIONS YET COULD I DO NOT REMEMBER THOSE OFFHAND, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS WE PLAN TO THIS TO HAVE SEATING FOR 200 PEOPLE. VERSUS RIGHT NOW, WE HARDLY EVEN EVEN -- RECEIPT 60 IN THERE NOW.

WE ARE ADDING 4700 SQUARE FEET TO THE WHOLE AREA.

AND THAT'S ABOUT DOUBLE, PROBABLY MORE THAN DOUBLE.

JUST RIGHT NOW. >> TO THE SEATING CAPACITY IS, WHAT IS THE SEATING CAPACITY BASED ON? JUST SPACE AVAILABLE WITH THIS BUILDING? OR IS IT BASED ON SOME SORT OF ANALYTICAL, YOU KNOW, WHETHER RELATED STUFF, BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE HAD THIS BEFORE WHERE WE HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE IN HERE AND SO I AM -- I HAD A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT, THIS TOPIC ACTUALLY CAME UP. AND SO, JUST KIND OF RUNNING THE ANALYTICS ON THAT, I MEAN, IF IT IS JUST SPACE REQUIRED AND WE ARE GOING TO PUT AS MANY SPEEDS IN THERE AS SPACE ALLOWS US, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT IF WE ACTUALLY DID THE ANALYTICS AND SAID, YOU KNOW, AND -- OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS WE HAVE HAD THIS MANY STOPS, WITH US IS THE MAX, THIS IS THE LEAST AND GET A NUMBER THAT WAY, THAT SHOULD JUSTIFY THE NUMBER HERE.

AS LONG AS WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATE, BECAUSE WHEN HE GETS OVERRUN, THE STAFF GETS OVER DONE.

IT'S VERY QUICKLY -- IT HAPPENS, AND NOBODY IS HAPPY.

>> SO, THE 200, WE PLAN FOR 200, THIS WAS THREE YEARS AGO WE STARTED PLANNING FOR THIS. THE 200 WAS KNOWING THAT WE AT THAT TIME WE HAD THE 175, SO THE 60 AIRCRAFT, AND PLANNING FOR ANOTHER AIRLINE. SO WE WERE GOING, OKAY, WELL THAT'S GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA SPACE, RIGHT? WITH 275, 776 AIRCRAFT, THEORETICALLY YOU HAVE ROOM FOR 50 SEATS MORE. SO THAT ALSO HELPS WITH WHEN WE HAVE A CHARTER GOING OUT ABOUT THE SAME TIME, OR WE HAVE A DIVERSION THAT THE PLANES, IT IS THE MOST SPACE WE COULD, IT IS USING, GETTING THE MOST SPACE THAT WE CAN JUSTIFY WITH IN WHAT FAA ALLOWS AN AIRPORT ARE SIZED TO BUILD SQUARE FOOT PER PASSENGER. BASED ON THE TERMINAL AREA FORECAST THAT WE HAD THROUGH OUR MASTER PLAN.

SO THE ANALYTICS ARE THERE. AND THEN -- BUT WE ARE MATH SO IT MEANT DEFINITELY MAXIMIZING WHAT WE

CAN GET OUT OF IT. >> IT IS AN EXCITING SITUATION TO HAVE. THE REASON IT IS TOP OF MIND.

I DON'T FLY AS MUCH IS THIS GUY, BUT WE FLEW IN MONDAY MORNING AND 10:30ISH AND THAT ROOM WAS PACKED WITH PEOPLE.

I MEAN, I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED AT HOW --

>> NUTS EVERY DAY. >> IT MAKES ME HAPPY AND SCARED

AT THE SAME TIME. >> YES, YES.

I MEAN, WE ARE BEHIND THE CURVE ON THIS.

BUT WE HAD OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAD TO SPEND OUR CAPITAL MONEY ON. SO WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO

BE BEHIND. >> AND FOR ME IT'S ONE THING TO

PROTECT AND -- >> AND THAT MAKES IT EASIER TO JUSTIFY IN THE GRANTS, THE COMPETITIVE GRANTS WE HAVE

APPLIED FOR WITH THE FAA. >> SO ASSUMING FUTURE GROWTH IN

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THE YEARS TO COME, DO WE FEEL LIKE TWO GATES IS GOING TO TAKE

US INTO THE FUTURE? >> NO.

BUT COLLIN, LET'S LOOK AT -- THE CENTER OF THIS BUILDING AND THE SOUTH WALL, WE HAVE THE BALCONY OUT HERE.

SO YOU CAN WALK OUT THESE TWO DOORS, THERE WILL BE A VESTIBULE

ON BOTH SIDES OR ONE? >> WE GOT RID OF IT.

>> SO WE HAD DESIGNED A BALCONY, BUT ALSO IN THE CENTER OF THAT BALCONY, THE CENTER AREA THEY ARE, THAT IS GOING TO BE, THAT IS DESIGNED TO ADD ANOTHER JET BRIDGE.

SO WITHOUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STRUCTURAL CONSTRUCTION AND COST, SO WE ARE PLANNING FOR THAT NOW.

WE WILL HAVE THE ELECTRICAL CAPACITY THEREFORE THE JET BRIDGE, SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADD THAT IN.

AS EASILY AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN IN THE FUTURE.

>> THAT IS GOOD. >> MY ONE THOUGHT PROCESS AND I TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS, BUT THE COLUMBIA AIRPORT HAS THAT AWESOME LITTLE STORY, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OF THE CAMERAS AND YOU SWIPE YOUR CARD AND YOU PICK WHAT YOU WANT AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR ANYONE WORKING THERE, IT'S LIKE ONE OF THOSE AMAZON STORES, I FEEL LIKE THAT LITTLE VENDING AREA IS NOT ENOUGH.

IT'S INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING LIKE RIGHT NOW AND I THINK JOSH IS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB, BUT YOU JUST CAN'T KEEP THAT LITTLE AREA STOCKED OR WORKING ALL THE TIME. SO THERE IS TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE QUICK BITES, COFFEE, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO GET STUCK THERE FOR THREE HOURS. SO I REALLY FEEL LIKE THE VENDING AREA, THAT'S MY ONE THOUGHT PROCESS THERE.

>> YEAH, SO THAT IS SIZED WITH WHAT'S OUR STANDARD VENDING MACHINES NOW, BUT I AM VERY MUCH AWARE, LIKE YOU SAID, OF THOSE NEW AUTOMATED SYSTEMS, WE ARE GOING TO DO -- AND WE HAVE TO DO THIS, I MEAN, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH JOSH RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO DO WITH RFP, REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR VENDING, WHILE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

>> BECAUSE THE AREA IS LIKE A PRETTY SMALL LITTLE AREA, I HAVE SEEN, AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET A HOT POCKET ALL THE WAY TO ESPRESSO MACHINE THERE, AND WE DON'T NEED TO SWIPE YOUR CARD

AND WALK OUT. >> WE MIGHT HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE WALL WHERE YOU SEE THE CURSOR OUT HERE IN THE FUTURE, BUT LOOKING AT THIS WITH JOSH AND WITH CHICK-FIL-A TOO, THEY ARE NOT GOOD TO BE ON THE SIDE, BUT WE BROUGHT THEM INTO THIS AS WELL, SO THEY HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE PLANNING FOR THIS. THE VENDING MACHINE HERE ARE JUST CONCEPTUAL. BUT YES, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I SEE THIS TOO IS AN UNSTAFF TO VENDING AREA.

>> SO, YOU ARE VERY KIND, I WILL ECHO YOUR COMMENTS AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I KNOW THAT JOSH IS TRYING TO DO A GREAT JOB WITH THE SPACE WE HAVE. I THINK GOING INTO THE NEXT FACILITY, WE NEED TO UP THAT GAME.

I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER PRESENTATION.

I THINK WE NEED A BETTER OPTION AND IT HAS TO BE EXCELLENT IN WHAT WE DO AND PRESENT, AND WHERE WE PUT IT.

BUT I WOULD AGREE, I THINK WE HAVE TO -- I DON'T KNOW IF IN THE RFP WHEN YOU ARE DOING THAT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S INPUT WE HAVE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO SAY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? WHAT MINIMUMS ARE WE AS A BOARD OR WHATEVER, IN THIS RFP, WHAT ARE WE WANTING TO PUT IN THERE.

>> SO U.S. A BOARD WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE INPUT.

NOT ONLY FOR THE RFP ITSELF, BUT IN EVALUATING IT AND A WARNING THAT RFP, THAT CONTRACT RESULTING CONCESSIONS CONTRACT.

>> THIS IS A GREAT JOB, I MEAN, IT'S -- KUDOS TO YOU GUYS, WE APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THIS WITH US.

AND IT BRINGS MORE OF A VISIBILITY INTO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONCEPTUALIZE IN OUR BRAIN FOR A LONG TIME COME BECAUSE WE SEE IT -- WE HAVE SEEN IT, BUT NOBODY WITH WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN WHAT IS EVEN COMFORTABLE FOR TSA TO PROPERLY MANAGE BRINGING MORE PEOPLE THROUGH SECURITY AND NOT KNOWING WHERE TO PUT THEM. SO, THIS IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD

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I BELIEVE IN BRINGING THIS TO FRUITION, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS. AND I KNOW EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS, SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK.

>> SO THAT LITTLE GOLDEN TUBE LOOKING THING --

>> SO THEY ARE TWO OF THEM, YES, YOU MISTED THAT.

AT THAT DESIGN ELEMENTS WAS IN THERE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND I WAS ABOUT TO BRING THAT UP, BECAUSE STEVE HAS BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE, BUT NOW IS YOUR CHANCE, THIS WAS ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I WANTED TO GET OUT OF YOU GUYS IS -- NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE -- IT WILL BE ELECTRIC, PROBABLY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ALIVE, I HAD JOKED BEFORE AND HEAR ABOUT IT BEING THREE SEASONS OUT OF THE YEAR IT WILL BE A BARBECUE PIT. BUT IT WILL -- IT WILL EITHER BE ELECTRIC OR GAS, BUT IT IS NOT THERE FOR HEAT, IT IS THERE FOR SHOW. BASICALLY AMBIENCE.

BUT NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO SAY IF THIS IS AN ELEMENTS YOU WANT TO

REMAIN. >> I WAS NOT A PART OF THE GROUP BACK THEN, BUT IT DOES NOT SEEM NECESSARY TO ME.

>> GETTING SOME MORE SUPPORT HERE.

>> WE ARE STILL IN THE DESIGN PHASE, RIGHT?

>> WELL, WE NEED TO SETTLE THAT LIKE -- YOU CAN SETTLE IT WITH EMAILS TO ME OR SOMETHING, BUT WE ARE TAKING -- WE ARE BRINGING THIS BACK TO YOU AS A FINAL DEAL TO WITH A PRICE TO BRING BACK IN THE NEXT TWO

MONTHS, LIKE I SAID, SO -- >> BARBECUE PIT.

>> I AM ALL ABOUT HAVING SOME STUFF THAT LOOKS GOOD, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE ONE FOR THIS AREA, BECAUSE YOU KNOW,

IT'S 12 DAYS A YEAR. >> I DON'T SEE ANYTHING YOU PUT IN THERE, ANY ADDITIONAL SEATING BASED ON THAT? I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOU GIVING UP TO PUT IN THAT?

WHAT'S THE VALUE ADD? >> THE VALUE ADD IS MODIFIED SEATING THAT IS NOT JUST ROWS AND ROWS AND ROWS OF BLACK CHEERS FOR THE VALUE ADD IS YOUR EXPERIENCE SITTING IN THE AIRPORT WAITING FOR AN AIRCRAFT AND OUTGOING, WELL, I'M SITTING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH EVERY OTHER PASSENGER.

>> THE AREA WOULD BE AN AREA LIKE FOR FAMILIES OR KIDS OR

STUFF LIKE THAT? >> TO ME --

>> COULD WE MOVE WITH SOMEWHAT OF A SOMETHING KID TEAM IN THERE IF YOU ARE ATTENDING THIS TO BE A FAMILY AREA?

COULD WE REPLACE IT -- >> I WOULD STAY AWAY FROM KID THEME COME BECAUSE WE ARE NOT A KID -- WE ARE NOT A RESORT AIRPORT, WE ARE NOT A LEISURE AIRPORT, WE ARE BUSINESS AIRPORT. THIS IS BUSINESS TRAVELERS.

WE HAVE FAMILIES AND WE HAVE MORE FAMILIES FLYING OUT OF HERE NOW MORE THAN EVER, AND I STARTED DURING COVID, BUT --

>> I JUST WONDER WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> WE SEE THEM, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH THAT WE WANT TO PUT IN A

PLAYSET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> I REALLY WANT TO SEE A STATUE OF AN ABILENE FIGURE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE IN THE CARDS, BUT SOMETHING THAT SAYS ABILENE, BUT THESE DAYS IF YOU SCROLL ON TIKTOK IS WHAT I SAY IS LIKE THE TABLETOP FIREPLACES AND THOSE THINGS ARE VERY, VERY END.

SO MAYBE IT IS THAT PROCESS, THAT THOUGHT.

BUT IT DOES NOT SAY ABILENE. >> I'M CONFUSED ON THE FIRE PIT, I MEAN -- IS THERE A FIRE OR NO FIRE?

>> THERE IS FIRE. IT HAS A REAL FLAME.

>> IT IS NOT A WOOD FIRE. >> IN A KID AREA --

>> NO, IT IS ENCLOSED IN CLASS, THE FIRE IS BEHIND THE GLASS.

BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THEY ARE TO PRODUCE HEAT.

>> YOU CAN TOUCH THE GLASS AND IT WILL NOT BURN YOU.

>> OKAY. >> BUT IF YOU DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT LOOK, THIS IS THE TIME WE NEED TO KNOW THAT.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO REPLACE IT WITH ANYTHING IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT GONE, WE DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE IT WITH ANYTHING

ANYTHING, WE JUST -- >> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHT PROCESS. WHAT ARE THE OTHER OPTIONS?

>> WHAT IF IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE A DISPLAY OF UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT ABILENE. YOU CAN'T TIE A BOAT IN THERE

THERE, -- >> ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THAT

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IS IT DOES PROVIDE ACTUAL SEATING.

BECAUSE IF YOU GET RID OF THAT --

>> YOU CAN SIT ON THE EDGE. OKAY.

>> I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT GETTING A CUP OF COFFEE AND SITTING THERE LOUNGING AND LOOKING OUT.

>> I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO SIDEBAR THAT A BIT, BECAUSE --

>> I DON'T HATE IT, BUT I DON'T LIKE IT PIT.

>> I DON'T THINK I HATE IT, I JUST WHAT IS THE BROADER, IS EVERYTHING GOING TO BE WHITE IN THERE?

>> YES. >> SO THAT I WOULD RATHER TALK ABOUT THAT THEN IS THIS GOING TO BE A CONE OR A FIREPLACE OR A MONUMENT, I THINK IF EVERYTHING IS STARK WHITE, AND THAT'S A GOLDEN CONE FIREPLACE THAT DOES LOOK OUT OF PLACE.

I DON'T KNOW, THESE ARE THINGS, I'M TALKING AESTHETICALLY THEY ARE NOT DESIGNED NECESSARILY THAT CAN BE HANDLED LATER ON --

>> NOW IS THE TIME TO DO IT. BECAUSE WHAT WE WILL HAVE IS THE CONTRACTOR AND THE MONEY TO DO IT.

AND I WOULD HATE TO BUILD A FIREPLACES AND THEN A YEAR LATER

PULL THEM OUT. >> WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT. >> AND AGAIN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE REPLACED WITH ANYTHING IF YOU WANTED TO PULL THEM OUT,

THAT'S -- >> MY THOUGHT IS, WE ARE AWARE IT IS HOT MOST THE TIME, IF THIS WAS BOSTON OR -- YOU KNOW, A FIREPLACE ACTION MAKES IT LOOK MORE -- I DON'T KNOW, A FIREPLACE JUST SEEMS -- IT DOES NOT MAKE ME UNDERSTAND. IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE OUT OF

PLACE TO ME. >> IF WE DID NOT DO THIS DESIGN, DOES THAT GO BACK TO A RETRO DESIGN? YOU KNOW? I MEAN, THAT LOOKS LIKE 1980S.

SOMEWHAT TO ME. >> NO, I AGREE.

>> AND AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO STAND MY LANE.

AT MY WIFE TELLS ME ALL THE TIME, STAY IN YOUR LANE.

LESLIE KNOWS, SO I AM NO DESIGN GURU EITHER.

I DO HAVE TO AGREE IT SEEMS A LITTLE OUT OF PLACE, BUT IT LOOKS REALLY RETRO TO ME. THAT MAY BE IN, THAT MAY BE WHAT'S COMING IN AND STUFF LIKE THIS, IS THERE -- DO WE HAVE LIKE TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF HOW THIS LOOKS? THAT YOU CAN -- I MEAN, JUST WHEN Y'ALL DECIDED TO PUT THAT IN THERE, WERE YOU THINKING OF A COUPLE OTHER THINGS?

>> SO I MESSAGED ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS ASKING HER TO SEND ME THE RENDER OF THE SPACE TO HELP THE SHOW AND ILLUSTRATE THE INTENT. WHEN WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THIS, THIS WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN A GROUP OF PEOPLE, COMMITTEE AND OUR DESIGN TEAM AND WHAT WE STARTED WITH WAS A RED DOT GREEN DOT EXERCISE TO SAY WHAT DO YOU LIKE AND NOT LIKE? AND WE TRY TO BE CLEAR, TELL US THAT. SO WE STEER THROUGH AND WHAT EVERYTHING EVERYBODY DID NOT LIKE, WE STEER TOWARDS WHAT EVERYBODY LIKED, AND AS WE WENT THROUGH OTHER AIRPORTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE LIKED, FIREPLACE WAS IN THERE.

AND SO WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND THIS IS HOW WE ENDED UP WITH A FIREPLACE IN HERE. OUR DESIGN TEAM LIKED IT, IT WAS A NICE CENTRAL TALKING PIT AREA, BREAKS UP THE MONOGAMY OF THE ENTIRE LONG ZONE OF TOTAL ROOM SPACE, IT ADDED CHARACTER, IT ADDED FLAIR TO AN OPPORTUNITY IN HERE.

YES, ABSOLUTELY YOU COULD TEAR DOWN AND JUST PUT IN MORE CHAIRS, BUT YOU REALLY -- JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE

UNIQUE THAN MOST PLACES. >> I LIKE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AS FAR AS HAVING SOMETHING THERE THAT KIND OF BREAKS IT UP, I

LIKE THAT IDEA. >> AS OPPOSED TO OTHER TEARS, I

AM A FAN OF IT, LIKE NOW -- >> AS OPPOSED TO OTHER TEARS --

>> NOW THAT I LIKE SAID IT'S NOT ABILENE, AS I THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN, THESE LIKE CYLINDER TUBES OF FIRE, LIKE NOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE ON YOUR FEED, BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT THEY ARE LITERALLY VERY TRENDY, THESE TABLETOP THINGS, EVEN IN THE SUMMER. SO I'M NOT -- AS OPPOSED TO ANYTHING ELSE, I KIND OF LIKE IT.

>> I DON'T HATE IT. >> SO WHENEVER YOU WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND EVERYTHING, AND I HATE, AND JUST ABSOLUTELY HATE

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TO GET STUCK ON ONE WINDOW, OR ONE DOORWAY, RIGHT? BUT I THINK I'M TRYING TO THINK BACK ON ALL THE AIRPORTS THAT I HAVE TRAVELED EVERY YEAR OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS, I HAVE BEEN IN THOUSANDS OF AIRPORTS, I DON'T -- I CAN'T REMEMBER A FIREPLACE, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE WAS NOT ONE, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT DID NOT STAND OUT TO ME WHERE I THOUGHT, THIS IS A FIREPLACE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO REALLY BE -- AND I HAVE BEEN TO SOME OF THE SMALLEST AND LARGEST OF THEM. THAT PROBABLY NEEDED A FIREPLACE

FIREPLACE. >> IT'S TO BE UNIQUE.

>> IF YOU'RE TALKING UNIQUE, THEN -- SPEAK I DO LIKE THE WAY THAT IT IT DOES BREAK IT UP A LITTLE BIT. IT DOES BREAK UP THE MONOTONY OF JUST MORE CHAIRS AND CLOGGING UP THOUGHTS, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT. IT IS UNIQUE.

YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT IS A LITTLE SAFER.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN OPEN FLAME.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO THROW THINGS AND KIDS CAN SIT AROUND IT. SO IT IS USABLE SPACE.

IT IS ALL WORKABLE STUFF HERE. AND I THINK THAT SOMETIMES LIKE I SAID, I PROBABLY NEED TO STAND MY LANE A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I'M NOT A DESIGNER AT ALL. AND I HAVE ENGINEERS THAT WORK FOR ME THAT OFTEN TELL ME TO STAND MY LANE.

>> WELL, YOUR LANE IS THIS. SO FOR -- IN YOUR ROLE AS A BOARD MEMBER, NOW PARTS OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, AND I VERY MUCH REMEMBER GOING THROUGH THAT EXERCISE, THAT WAS A COUPLE OF DAYS WORTH, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT ELEMENTS, NOT ONLY AT JUST AIRPORTS, BUT YOU LOOK AT HOTELS, YOU LOOK AT RESORTS, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED A -- WE DID NOT WANT THIS NECESSARILY TO FEEL LIKE -- WE CERTAINLY DID NOT WANT TO FEEL THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, JUST A VERY STERILE HARD ENVIRONMENT.

SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT KIND OF BRING SOME CALMNESS AS YOU ARE WAITING FOR YOUR FLIGHT AND GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO FEEL RELAXED A LITTLE BIT TOO BEFORE YOU GET ON YOUR FLIGHT.

>> DO YOU LIKE IT, DON? >> I DO, YEAH.

I MEAN, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE KEPT IN THE DESIGN ELEMENTS FROM THE BEGINNING, THIS IS NOT YOU KNOW, YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THIS IN EVERY RENDERING SINCE WE BEGAN THIS.

AND I KNEW THAT THERE WAS DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON IT, SO THAT'S I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GOT POINTED OUT TODAY, BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.

>> SO IF WE REMOVED IT, I JUST WANT TO -- HOW MUCH ARE RECEIVING FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE?

THERE IS A COST TO THIS STUFF. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT. SPECIFICALLY HOLLOWED OUT.

>> OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, AND CONTRACTOR, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN

THE PRICING FOR THIS YET. >> I WOULD EXPECT YOU ARE NOT SAVING A MILLION DOLLARS. YOU ARE --

>> NO, I WOULD NOT EXPECT THAT. >> PROBABLY 50, MAY BE -- IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO --

>> NOT A WHOLE LOT IN THE OVERALL SCHEME OF THINGS.

>> I'M NOT SNEEZING AT THAT. >> WHEN YOU SAY THAT -- I HAVE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT INTO BUILDINGS IN THE COUNTY AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHY THAT IS SO -- WHY DID YOU SPEND SO MUCH MONEY ON THAT? USE MY TAX DOLLARS.

THAT'S A KIND OF STUFF -- >> I GET THAT, AND WE HEAR THAT TOO. AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THAT WE JUST -- WE ARE MAKING AN IMAGE OF ABILENE FOR ARRIVING PASSENGERS WHO COME HERE TO DO BUSINESS, LOOKING TO LOCATE IN ABILENE, RELOCATES, AND ALSO IT IS A FINAL IMAGE FOR SOME PEOPLE.

>> WE PROBABLY SEND I GUESS A SIMILAR DOLLARS, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO -- IT'S NOT OPENING, ITS OTHER SEEDS OR -- SO WE ARE GOING TO SPEND DOLLARS

TO PUT SOMETHING THERE ANYWAY. >> I SAY WE KEEP IT THERE.

IT ELEVATES THE IMAGE, AND IT HAS A GREAT HOME.

I HAVE COMPLETELY CHANGED MY MIND.

I LIKE IT NOW. >> THE PICTURE IS A BETTER --

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>> THIS RENDERING, THE INTERIOR DESIGNER HAS SENT, THE TONE --

>> IT DOES PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SEATING.

>> IS THIS A POTENTIAL COLOR THEME?

>> YES. >> LOVE IT.

>> GRAY IS VERY END. >> THERE IS STILL FURNITURE

CONVERSATIONS TO BE HAD. >> AND WE HAVE THOSE I DID WRONG CHAIRS OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM OUT THERE? YEAH, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU.

>> THERE IS A THEME OF WHAT COULD BE DONE.

>> NOTHING IS LOCKED IN. >> I WILL ALSO SEND YOU -- MY PROBLEM IS I HAVE WORKED FOR THE COUNTY FOR 45 YEARS.

AND I KIND OF TYPICALLY PREFER FUNCTION THEN PRETTY.

>> AND THERE IS, YES, AND I KNOW, I STRUGGLED WITH THAT TOO, BUT WE HAVE TO SET AN IMAGE OF OUR WHOLE REGION.

AND I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I DO.

>> AT LEAST YOU CAN SIT ON IT. >> I DON'T HAVE A HARD AND FAST OPINION ON IT. I'M LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE A BIG FUNCTION.

>> THAT'S MY PERSONAL THOUGHT IS PEOPLE WALK IN THERE AND A FIREPLACE IN ABILENE, TEXAS, REALLY?

THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT. >> DOES NOT PUT OUT HEAT, IT DOES NOT -- IT IS THE AMBIENCE, YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING IN HERE.

SO IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? I MEAN, TO ME -- THIS PICTURE DOES A BETTER RESEMBLANCE OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THEN -- I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT. I WILL PUT IT THAT WAY.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN IN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

BACK WHEN FIRST STARTED DOING THIS.

SO EVIDENTLY, IT'S VALUE ADD IT, RIGHT? IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE.

WHO KNOWS, IT MAY BE THE TALK OF THE TOWN.

YOU JUST DON'T KNOW YET, IT MAY BE THE TALK OF THE AIRPORTS.

THAT'S A GREAT FUTURE. OKAY.

>> I WOULD SAY AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT ADD SIGNIFICANT COST, AGAIN, KNOWING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING THERE.

>> AND THAT'S THE THING, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING THERE. IF YOU SAID, WE ARE NOT GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THE FIREPLACE, THEN IT CAN BE OPEN FLOOR SPACE, IT CAN BE FILLED WITH MORE SEATING, WITH A

CONVERSATIONAL TYPE SEATING. >> I DO LIKE HOW IT LOOKS.

>> AND THAT'S THE THING, IT'S JUST A FEATURE TO MAKE IT

INTERESTING. >> I HEAR WHAT RANDY ASSANGE ALSO IS YOU HAVE TO BE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBLE BACK AT, AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE WE SIT UP HERE, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF SIDEBAR CONVERSATIONS LIKE -- WHEN I SEE IT UP THERE, WHAT ARE YOU ALL THINKING? WELL, THAT KIND OF PUTS THE ZERO RIGHT ON HER BACK WHENEVER 70 WALKS UP TO ME AND I AM AT YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING, A BUSINESS TOPIC THAT COMES UP.

>> USUALLY JUST BLAME -- >> COUNCIL MEMBERS GET THE SAME THING. CITY STAFF CERTAINLY GETS THE SAME THING. WE ALL KNOW, SO.

>> I THINK THAT'S WHERE RANDY IS COMING FROM IS THAT WE WANT TO BE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBLE, RIGHT, WITH THE MONEY AND WITH THE DESIGN AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF CREATING THESE ELEMENTS THAT ADD THAT TYPE OF VALUE. AND YOU ARE -- YOU ARE DOING IT YOU'RE MULTITASKING THIS FEATURE RIGHT HERE BY ADDING SEATING. IT DOES NOT HAVE A SAFETY OPEN FLAME FEATURE TO IT, STUFF LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S -- I SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THE PICTURE ADD IS A BETTER RESEMBLANCE OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE -- THAT THIS COULD BE, THEN I LIKE IT.

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>> COULD BE AN ESCALATOR. PUT IT AND THEN DECIDE.

WE DON'T LIKE THAT. >> WHAT IS THAT GOING TO ADD?

I MEAN, PLEASE. >> YES.

>> I JUST CAN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN A DISPLAY CASE OF THINGS THAT ARE MANUFACTURED OR MADE IN ABILENE OR SOMETHING THAT THE UNIVERSITY'S COME UP WITH, AND COMING IN OH, AND AQUARIUM WOULD NOT BE PRACTICAL, BECAUSE DON WOULD HATE ME EVERY TIME A FISH DIED AND HE HAD TO PUT A NEW ONE IN THERE. BUT STUFF THAT SELLS, THAT WAS IN A DISPLAY, WHETHER IT BE ROUND OR CUBED OR WHAT, BUT

FLOOR-TO-CEILING, SO -- >> YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT KIND OF FEATURE IN PHASE TWO WHERE WE ARE WORKING WITH A LOCAL WALLPAPER COMPANY THAT WOULD HAVE A COLLAGE OF ABILENE THEMES, ONE IS GOING TO BE THE ECONOMY, WHAT IT IS COMPOSED OF, AND ONE IS GOING TO BE MORE LIKE A HISTORY, SO TWO DIFFERENT WALLS, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IN PHASE TWO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL SPACE IN HERE TO DO IT.

BUT WE WILL HAVE ELEMENTS RECOGNIZED, SO THAT ABILENE IS A PLACE, A REAL PLACE PEOPLE WHO ARE VISITING AND IN THE BAGGAGE AREA, THEY CAN SEE WHAT IT IS ABOUT.

BUT WE HAVE DONE SOME ART DISPLAYS IN THE TERMINAL AND WE

WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT. >> I MEAN, THIS IS JUST INCREDIBLE THAT YOU CAN GIVE US A WALK-THROUGH.

I HATE TO BE THAT STUCK ON FIREPLACES, AGAIN, THIS IS --

>> THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOU AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON IT, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE SET

FOR 20, 30 YEARS -- >> SO WHEN DO WE HAVE TO HAVE -- LET'S SAY THAT'S AN ISSUE, WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT LOCKED DOWN

DOWN? >> IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

THE ACCOUNT IS GOING YESTERDAY. >> THE NEXT 5 MINUTES.

>> WE HAD AN EXTENSIVE MEETING YESTERDAY.

>> THAT'S WHY IT -- >> IF WE ARE REMOVING, IF WE ARE REMOVING THIS ELEMENT, THEN HE ASKED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT TO REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING FEASIBLE AND THE TIME THAT WE HAVE.

>> YOU GO WITH IT, I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO GO WITH IT.

I THINK THAT -- >> I DON'T THINK IT'S SO DETRIMENTAL AND HAS MULTIFUNCTIONAL, SO I MEAN I WOULD SAY GO WITH IT THE WAY THAT IT IS.

>> AND SO, THIS IS JUST A CONSENSUS, THERE IS NO ACTION

ITEM, THERE'S NO VOTE ON THIS. >> I'M GIVING YOU MY OPINION, I THINK WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THIS ROOM LIKE THIS RIGHT HERE, YOU COULD START QUESTIONING SOME THINGS AND THEN WHENEVER YOU HAVE A BETTER VISUAL LIKE THIS, IT SOFTENS THOSE EDGES AND IT MAKES SOME OF THOSE OTHER COLORS POP, IT KIND OF MAKES IT WORK IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. NOW AGAIN, JUST MY OPINION.

BUT I SAY THAT IT HOLDS THE ELEMENTS THAT IS A USABLE WORKABLE FUNCTIONAL OBJECT TO THAT WE CAN ADD AND IT GIVES A TALKING POINT TOO. SO.

I SAY WE GO WITH IT. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

I AM A PROPONENT OF IT NOW. >> AND SO, STEVE, TO YOUR POINT, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS WAS A DESIGN ELEMENT IS BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE PAST IT. BUT IF YOU PUT DISPLAY CASES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEY ARE, THEN YOU CAN'T, BECAUSE REALLY WE ARE TRYING TO FEATURE THE SOUTH LANDSCAPE.

>> YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

>> I THINK WHATEVER YOU PUT THERE, GUYS, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT IT. AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE IT, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT GOES THERE, SO I REALLY LIKE THE DESIGN IN THE PICTURE, AGAIN, THE THEMES, THE COLORS, THE DESIGN OF IT, I THINK THAT I AGREE WITH DON, I THINK WE ALL DO. WE WANT TO GIVE A GOOD IMPRESSION FIRST AND LAST IMPRESSION TO THOSE WHO ARE COMING IN AND OUT OF ABILENE, AND IF YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

I THINK IT DOES IT. I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU PUT THERE THAT DOES IT ANY BETTER.

I DON'T WANT TO GROUP OF CHEERS THERE.

I DON'T WANT ROWS AND ROWS OF CHAIRS.

THIS IS OUR COLOR THEME AND DESIGN THEME.

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I THINK IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. I THINK IT LOOKS FIRST-CLASS, I THINK IT LOOKS EXCELLENT, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT AS A MEMBER AND AS A CITIZEN, I WANT PEOPLE TO FLY IN AND OUT OF HER AIRPORT AND BE IMPRESSED WITH WHAT THEY SEE, SO I THINK IT DOES WELL.

THAT SCARES ME. THAT'S REALLY WHITE AND BLUE.

>> THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED. >> YES.

SO THANK YOU FOR PULLING THE PICTURE UP, I THINK THAT DID IT

JUSTICE. >> YES, THE PICTURE.

>> SORRY I CAN'T BRING EVERYTHING WITH ME.

>> THAT IS OKAY. YOU DID NOT KNOW THIS WAS THE FINAL EXAM, DID YOU? OPEN BOOK.

ALL RIGHT, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE TO SEE AND HEAR?

>> SHOWING YOU THE EXITS, SO AS YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH MOST OTHER TERMINALS WHEN YOU EXITS, THERE IS A TURN OUT, SO WHEN YOU APPROACH THESE DOORS, THEY AUTOMATICALLY SPIN AND TELL YOU TO KEEP MOVING, SO LOOKING AT HAVING THAT IN AN AIRPORT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT REFLEXIVELY.

AS YOU GET THROUGH THE GROUND OUT, THERE IS AN ELEVATOR RIGHT HERE TO TAKE YOU DOWNSTAIRS TO BAGGAGE CLAIM.

YOU DON'T MISS IT, YOU DON'T WALK PAST IT, IT IS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU. SO YOU CAN TAKE THAT DOWNSTAIRS OR YOU CAN TAKE OUR STAIRS AND BE RIGHT HERE AT BAGGAGE CLAIM.

SO THAT IS THE CONCEPT WHEN YOU COME DOWNSTAIRS WHERE THEY ARE LEAVING THAT ELEVATOR AND BAGGAGE CLAIM WOULD BE OFF TO THE LEFT AND WE ARE REPLACING BOTH OF THOSE CAROUSELS AND EQUIPMENT BEHIND THE SECURE DOOR AND OVER HERE WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING OFFICES FOR THE AIRLINES FOR LEFTOVER BAGGAGE, COLLECTED BAGGAGE, THAT SORT OF THING. ONE OF THE WALLS DON MENTIONED EARLIER THAT MAY HAVE A MURAL OR WALLPAPER OR ARTWORK ON IT IS THIS WALL HERE, SO AS YOU GO DOWNSTAIRS, THAT IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE. THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT IS THE WALL THAT HE POINTED OUT EARLIER.

YOU'RE GLAD I AM DRIVING, AREN'T YOU.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> SO AS YOU HAVE RETRIEVED YOUR BAG AND YOU ARE READY TO HEAD ON OUT, YOU CAN COME BACK THIS WAY, THERE IS CURRENTLY A RAMP THERE, WHERE YOU TAKE THAT RAMP AND KEEPING THE RAM, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KEEP THE THREE LEVELS, BUT IF YOU NEED THE ELEVATOR, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO USE THAT TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THIS NEXT LEVEL, AND AS YOU COME UP, YOU ARE NOW ON THE MAIN SPACE OF RENTAL CARS OVER THERE TO YOUR LEFT, AND AS YOU TRY TO GET YOUR VEHICLE KEYS, SIGN YOUR PAPERWORK, SIGN YOUR LIFE AWAY,

YOU CAN HEAD ON OUT. >> ARE THOSE ELEVATORS LARGER

THAN THE TERMINAL ELEVATOR? >> NO.

>> AND THEY WILL BE CLEAR? >> LIKE THE WINDOW?

>> YES, CLEAR GLASS. >> GREAT.

>> NOT EVERY SINGLE ELEMENT WILL BE GLASS, BUT THE SHAFT WILL BE GLASS, THE CABIN WILL BE GLASS, BUT THERE ARE SOME STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS THAT STILL HAVE TO BE OPAQUE.

THERE IS AN EXTENSIVE SIGNAGE PACKAGE, A WAY FINDING PACKAGE THAT IS STILL IN DESIGN, BUT WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE SUBCONSULTANT DOING THAT WORK TWO WEEKS AGO.

SO THAT IS IN THE PROCESS TOO, WE JUST DID NOT SHOW IT.

BUT ALL STANDARD SITES YOU CAN SEE.

WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THE PARKING LOT.

AND THAT CURB AGAINST THE PARKING LOT STAYS WHERE IT IS.

WE WILL HAVE THREE LANES DOWNSTAIRS.

SO IT IS GOING TO BE A TRAFFIC ISSUE, AND SEAN AND I ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW. HOW TO WORK THROUGH THAT.

WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER, FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBER DOWNSTAIRS MANAGING TRAFFIC FLOW.

IT WORKS OUT WELL FOR US RIGHT NOW WITH THE UPPER AND LOWER LEVELS, BUT ON THE FIRST LEVEL AND TWO LANDS ESSENTIALLY THAT PEOPLE CAN -- THE MIDDLE LANE AND THE LANE UP AGAINST THE TERMINAL IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STOP AND PICK UP AND DROP OFF. AS THAT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY FREE LANE. IT MIGHT TAKE SOME PRESIDENTS

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MANAGING TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND AS WE HAVE GROWN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT.

>> GREAT JOB. >> YES, IT LOOKS REALLY NICE.

>> IT'S THE COLOR THE SEEMING THAT IS ON THE INSIDE PER CHANCE

CHANCE. >> NOT THE WHITE.

>> AND THE GOLDS, WHATEVER YOU CAN CALL IT, IS WHAT YOU SEE HERE, AND THOSE WOULD BE PAINTED BLACK, DARK BRONZE, AND THEN THE SAME WITH THE STOREFRONT THE BOTTOM IS A METAL PAINT INSTEAD OF WOOD, THE FIRE MARSHAL DID NOT LIKE THAT TO LOOK WARMER

THOUGH, GIVE IT A NICER TONE. >> AND THEN REALLY ASIDE FROM THAT, THERE WILL BE SOME OTHER METAL PAINT ON THE BUILDING AS WELL WITH SOME OF THE THEME THAT YOU SAW INSIDE, WITH IT CONSISTENT IN AND OUT, THERE WILL BE A LIMESTONE PRODUCT FOR SOMETHING SIMILAR AS YOU GO TO SOME OF THE STONE OUT HERE, AND ON THE NEW RENDITION, SIMPLY SIMILAR TO THAT, IN COLOR AND CUT IF YOU WILL. THAT STONE IS OUTSIDE AND IT IS ON THE INSIDE OF BOTH ENDS, SO THERE IS STONE RIGHT HERE AND ON THE FAR END OVER THERE AS WELL. ALONG WITH IN THE HOLD ROOM ON EACH GATE ON THE SIDE THERE IS STONE.

>> IS THE SECOND FLOOR EXACTLY THE SAME SQUARE FEET AS THE FIRST FLOOR? BECAUSE IT LOOKS DIFFERENT FROM THE OUTSIDE THAN IT DOES FROM RIGHT HERE.

>> SO RIGHT HERE. >> THAT'S THE UPPER LEVEL DRIVE HEAT WAY RIGHT NOW. SO THE EXISTING DRIVE IS RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THESE TAPERED COLUMNS, THOSE ARE EXISTING COLUMNS. THE SECOND FLOOR REALLY STOPS ABOUT HERE. SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE AND THAT WOULD BE THE ENTRY SPACE AS IT'S NOT COPPER

PACE VERTICALLY. >> ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS ASKING AS WE HAD THE AIRPLANE HANGING IN THE AIRPORT AND I WAS TAKEN DOWN AND TAKEN TO HARRIET SQUARE, AND THE SAME PERSON THAT ARRANGE TO MAKE IT IN HARRIET SQUARE SUGGESTED THAT WE GET AN AIRPLANE LIKE THE CHAPARRAL FLEW AND HANG IT IN THE AREA ABOVE WHERE THE RENTAL CAR PLACES ARE. AND I DON'T REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA, BUT I DON'T KNOW FROM A SCALE STANDPOINT WHETHER THAT'S

EVEN FEASIBLE, YOU KNOW? >> NO, I MEAN, TO ACTUALLY HAVE

A PLAN LIKE CHAPARRAL FLEW -- >> NOT A G1, BUT YOU KNOW, BACK WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE LITTLE BEACH THING.

>> IT WILL REQUIRE -- IT WOULD BE MUCH HEAVIER, IT

WOULD BE MUCH LARGER. >> LIKE SAID, I DON'T KNOW --

IT WAS A THOUGHT. >> SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM CONSIDERING ALSO, AND HAD ASKED STAFF TO KIND OF DO SOME BACKGROUND ON WHAT THE AIRLINES, THE AIRLINES THAT HAVE SERVED ABILENE IN THE PAST AS WELL AS IS CURRENTLY SERVING, GOING BACK TO CHAPARRAL, GOING BACK TO TEXAS INTERNATIONAL, YES.

AND HAVING SOMEWHERE WHERE WE RECOGNIZE THOSE, THOSE OLD BRANDS, THOSE OLD NAMES THAT WE ALL RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, THE LOGOS AND THINGS. SO LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO. THAT WOULD COME IN PHASE TWO, MAYBE PHASE THREE. AND YOU KNOW, MAY BE FINDING A MODEL, A SCALE MODEL, QUALITY SCALE MODEL OF WHAT HAS FLOWN INTO THERE, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE MY ROOM WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD WITH MODELS HANGING FROM THE CEILING.

BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO DO THAT AND SOME AREA, THEN WE CAN LOOK

INTO THAT. >> YOU KNOW, AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO RAISE MONEY TO DO SEPARATELY APART FROM YOU KNOW IT'S JUST A THING OF DOING IT AND RAISING

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MONEY AND GETTING PERMISSION TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

KIND OF LIKE WHAT THE REPORTER USED AS THE PHASE THING EARLIER.

>> YES. IT'S REALLY NICE.

>> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I MEAN, WE ARE ON ONLY ITEM THREE OF OUR AGENDA. SO -- BUT THIS WAS WORTHWHILE, DEFINITELY WANTED YOU TO HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS AND SEE IT, BECAUSE THINGS ARE GOING TO START MOVING FAST OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING PRESSING TO YOU FOR THIS FIRST PHASE AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE DESIGN WRAPPED UP.

ESSENTIALLY IT IS AT THIS POINT, SO --

>> I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE LOOK AT THIS AND WE DO TALK ABOUT IT, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO VERBALIZE THAT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU KNOW, YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE A BAD DECISION. AND I GET IT, AND I KNOW WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO TALK TO READ THESE ITEMS NOW AND EVEN THOUGH WE WENT COMPLETELY FIRST CIRCLE ON AND WE ARE BACK TO WHERE WE ORIGINATED FROM, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD I WOULD SAY, BUT I THINK SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO TALK THROUGH IT AGAIN.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HAVE YOU KNOW, GONE THROUGH SOME OF THIS DESIGN STUFF, AND WE ARE SO CLOSE, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A BAD DECISION. AND WE DO WANT TO BE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBLE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND BACK TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE, AND SO, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE DISCUSSION POINT THAT WE HAVE HERE. SO I AM PLEASED WITH THE DESIGN, GREAT RENDITIONS OF STUFF THAT WE HAVE HERE.

AND I THINK THAT ONCE YOU GET CLOSER TO THE TIME, IT WILL BE YOU KNOW, WE WOULD'VE KNOWN AFTER THE TALKING POINTS THAT WE HAVE LANDED ON THE RIGHT THINGS. WE HAVE DONE THE RIGHT THINGS.

AND IT'S -- I THINK IT'S JUST GOING INTO THE

NEXT STEP. >> ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL EXPECTS OF THIS BOARD TO DO THIS WORK.

SO -- >> ALL RIGHTS, UNLESS THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE, I'M GOING TO TRY TO MOVE THIS ALONG.

I DON'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF BEING A VERY LONG MEETING.

BOARD MEMBER OR PERSON IN MY FIRST MEETING, SO JAMES, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR INPUT OVER THERE.

AND COLLIN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. >> YES.

>> I CAN'T FIND THE EMAIL. AS IT GOES IN THAT SPACE.

>> IT'S EXCELLENT. >> VERY NICE.

>> IT'S VERY NICE. >> YES.

>> THAT IS WHAT IS ON OUR WEBSITE.

SO, THAT HAS BEEN THE IMAGE, THE RENDERING PRETTY MUCH ALL ALONG.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU AGAIN, COLLIN, APPRECIATED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERMISSION.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE LEFT OFF --

>> SO REALLY JUST AIR SERVICE, THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT UPDATES, AIR SERVICE PERFORMANCE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT ALREADY WITH THE STATISTICS, PHOENIX, WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS SELLING. YOU MAY HAVE AN IDEA NEXT WEEK, BUT THAT MIGHT BE INFORMATION THAT I AM NOT ABLE TO SHARE IF AMERICAN -- WITH WHAT THEY SHARED WITH ME.

WE WILL SEE. THAT FLIGHT STARTS JUNE 4TH ACTUALLY WITH THE ARRIVAL JUNE JUNE 4TH.

I BELIEVE IT IS SCHEDULED FOR 10:53:00 P.M. ARRIVAL WITH A 6:30 A.M. DEPARTURE ON JUNE 5TH, AND THAT IS THE SCHEDULE.

SO, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO AMERICAN TO SAY HEY, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO SOMETHING TO RECOGNIZE THIS NEW FLIGHT LIKE WE DID FOR YOU AT AT THE UNITED FLIGHTS, BUT THE TIMES DON'T REALLY ACCOMMODATE HAVING A RIBBON-CUTTING AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND SO THEY WERE GETTING WITH THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT AND SEEING WHAT THEY HAD IF THEY HAD

ANY IDEAS. >> CAN'T WE JUST DO IT LATER IN

THE MORNING? >> THERE IS NO FLIGHT, THIS IS ONCE A DAY. SO WE WOULD DO IT WITHOUT AN AIRPLANE, OR UNLESS WE PRETEND ONE OF THE DFW FLIGHTS IS GOING TO PHOENIX. LAND DEVELOPMENTS, REALLY NO

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CHANGES ON THAT, AND STAFFING SHORT ON THE MAINTENANCE POSITION, SHORT ONE OPERATIONS OFFICER POSITION.

[4. Discussion and Action to Recommend Approval of Non-Signatory Airlines Rates and Charges.]

SO WE ARE OKAY. OKAY.

RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF NONSINGLER TORREY AIRLINE RATES

AND CHARGES. >> SO WHEN WE ESTABLISH THE LEASES WITH AMERICAN AIRLINES AND NEGOTIATED THE LEASE WITH AMERICAN AIRLINES AND THEN CARRIE DID THAT TO SCOUTING WEST AS WELL, THAT ESTABLISHED NEW AND WHAT -- SO WHEN AN AIRLINE SIGNS A LEASE AND OPERATING AGREEMENT WITH AN AIRPORT, THEY ARE CALLED A SIGNATORY CARRIER.

MEANING THEY HAVE SIGNED. THEN WE HAVE NONSIGNATORY OR CARRIERS WHICH ARE CHARTERS THAT COME IN, THAT IS JUST ONE THAT HAS NOT SIGNED AN AGREEMENT. SO WE -- IN THE INDUSTRY IT IS VERY COMMON TO CHARGE A PREMIUM TO THE NONSIGNATORY, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE OPERATION OF THE AIRPORT EVERY DAY.

THEY POP IN ON A CHARTER, POP OUT, SO WHAT I AM RECOMMENDING IN OUR RATES AND FEES THAT WE CHARGE OUR NONSIGNATORY CARRIERS, CHARTERS, OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO OPERATE AS A NONSAYEGH WITH 150% OF THE RATES AND CHARGES THAT WE ARE CHARGING AMERICAN AND SKYWEST. SO THAT WOULD MEAN ULTIMATELY FOR OUR -- LIKE WHEN A CHARTER COMES IN, WE CHARGE $200 FOR THE USE OF THE AIRPORT.

WE HAVE HAD THAT CHARGE FOR A WHILE.

THIS WOULD NOW GO TO $350.60. THAT IS FOR THE TICKET COUNTER THAT THEY USE AS WELL AS THE HOLD ROOM SPACE AND THE JET BRIDGE THEY USE. THAT'S BASED OFF OF THE FARES, OR THE FEES THAT WE CHARGE AMERICAN.

NOW, I AM SAYING THAT IS THIS YEAR.

NEXT YEAR, THAT WILL GO UP. BECAUSE IN OUR LEASES, THE RATES GO UP EVERY YEAR. OVER FIVE YEARS.

SO THAT IS WHY AM SAYING 150% OF WHAT THE ESTABLISHED RATES ARE

IN OUR LEASE. >> A 150% INCREASE --

>> YES, SO, COUNSEL IS GOING TO HAVE TO ADOPT TO THIS AND IT'S GOING TO BE MAINTAINING THAT, OTHERWISE WE WILL HAVE TO -- AND IT MIGHT BE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S PREROGATIVE TO GO AHEAD AND LIST EVERYTHING, BUT I AM SAYING IF THEY APPLY 150% INCREASE TO EVERY RATES AND CHARGE THAT WE CHARGE THE AIRLINES FOR ATYPICAL OPERATION OUT THERE, EXCEPT FOR THE LANDING FEE. SO THE LANDING FEE IS -- I'M SORRY, THE FUEL FLOW FEE IS ALREADY SET -- YES. THE FUEL FLOWAGE FEE IS ALREADY HAS A NONSIGNATORY RATE OF $2 PER GALLON.

OR $2, I'M SORRY, $2 PER THOUSAND POUNDS OF FUEL.

NO, NO, NEVER MIND. NO, IT IS TO $2 -- THIS IS THE LANDING FEE. IF THE LANDING FEE IS $2 PER 1000 POUNDS. THAT WILL STAY THE SAME, BECAUSE WE ALREADY ADDRESSED IN THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE THAT THE CITY ADOPTS. SO THIS WILL CHANGE THE OTHER

FEES EXCEPT FOR THAT. >> OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, RIGHT?

>> YES. AND IT WILL BE TO ESTABLISH A NON-SIGNATORY RATE OF 150% OF THE ESTABLISHED LEASE RATES FOR

A SIGNATORY CARRIERS. >> SO THAT WAY IT WOULDN'T HAVE

TO CHANGE EACH TIME THEY CHANGE. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

IT JUST FOLLOWS THE ANNUAL INCREASES ALREADY BUILT INTO THE

LEASES. >> SO NO ONE IS GETTING CHARGED

LESS. >> YES.

THEY WILL BE CHARGED MORE. >> SO WE NEED A MOTION.

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>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR ANY OPPOSED?

[5. Discussion and Action to Recommend Approval of Task Order 4 with Kutchins & Groh for Terminal Construction Phase Capital Implementation Services]

HEARING NONE THE MOTION PASSES. THAT MOVES US TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A TASK ORDER WITH CUTCHINS AND GROVER TERMINAL CONSTRUCTION PHASE CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION SERVICES. SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE TERMINAL.

THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB GETTING US IN POSITION AND WORKING THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS FOR A GRANT.

WE ARE STILL WAITING TO HEAR FROM FAA, BUT THEY'VE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN PUTTING ALL THOSE PACKAGES TOGETHER.

THERE IS STILL WORK TO DO AND WE WILL NEED THEIR ASSISTANCE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF THE TERMINAL PROJECT, SO I HAVE A PROPOSAL TO GET US THROUGH THAT.

THAT PROPOSAL IS FOR $150,233.04.

THAT WOULD BE NOT TO EXCEED. THAT'S THEIR PROPOSAL.

I WANTED TO GET IT TO YOU AT THIS POINT AS A NOT TO EXCEED BECAUSE, AND THIS IS COVERED BY OUR GRANTS, BUT I WANTED TO GET IT TO YOU BECAUSE WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING.

BUT I HAVE ASKED ANOTHER FIRM TO DO AN INDEPENDENT ESTIMATE TO GO IN AND MAKE SURE. IF THEY SAY, THIS IS ON THE HIGH SIDE, WE GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE A LOWER RATE OR A LOWER FEE WITH KUTCHINS & GROH. SO TO GET IT CLOSE TO IN LINE TO WHAT THE IAFF RECOMMENDS. BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, AND IF YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT AS A NOT TO EXCEED RIGHT NOW. BUT IT WOULD NOT BE TAKEN TO COUNCIL AT THAT 150,000. IT WOULD BE AT THE NEGOTIATED RATE AFTER THE IFE HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

>> THE TASK ORDER FOR IS SPECIFIC.

>> THE SCOPE OF WORK WILL NOT CHANGE, BUT THE PRICE COULD CHANGE IF THE IFE COMES BACK LOWER.

>> WHEN IS THE IFE ESTIMATED TO BE COMPLETED?

>> THE OTHER FIRM HAS HAD IT FOR A WEEK OR SO.