[ PUBLIC COMMENTS] [00:00:06] ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA OR ANY OTHER THINGS. ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO ADDRESS. SO THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE ASKING FOR US TO LOOK AT YOUR STREETS THAT YOU LIVE ON IN THE FUTURE. THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO ADDRESS THAT. WE'LL GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES UNLESS WE EXTEND THE COMMENT PERIOD. SO THE START. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M JOY ELLINGER I'M PRESIDENT OF THE-- SORRY. OKAY. >> YOU'RE NOT DONE YET. OH WHILE YOU'RE FIXING THAT LET ME PASS THIS AROUND. >> HOLD ON, TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. I AM JOY ELLINGER. I'M PRESIDENT AT THE SADDLE CREEK HOA. OUT IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN. I REPRESENT 82 HOMES. AND THEY WILL COME TO YOU RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED THIS PETITION REQUESTING THAT THE DROVER'S LANE AND BE EVALUATED IN THE CITY'S ROADWAY RECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM. THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU SEE THAT I'VE HUNG OUT IN THE PAQUETTE DEMONSTRATES SIGNIFICANT PAVEMENT EXPRESS INCLUDING WIDESPREAD ALLIGATOR CRACKING. PAVEMENT TRAVELLING. PATCH FAILURES. EDGE DETERIORATION. EXPOSED BASE MATERIAL. THESE CONDITIONS AND CONDITIONS AND PAVEMENT SECTIONS THAT HAVE EXCEEDED THEIR EFFECTIVE SERVICE LIFE. UNDER EXPERIENCING STRUCTURAL FAILURE AT A RAPID PACE. AND NOW MAINTENANCE REPAIRS HAVE BEEN PERFORMED OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. OUR NEIGHBOURS WANT TO RECOGNIZE SUBMIT ON AND SEE FIX. TO USE TO GET OUR STREETS TO BE REPAIRED. CONTINUED MAINTENANCE ACTIVERIES THE NO LONGER PROVIDING A COST EFFECTIVE LONG-TERM SOLUTION. SOUP LOOK TO THE DOCUMENTATION. I WANT TO POINT OUT DROVER'S LANE PHOTO TWO. PHOTO THREE AND FOUR. YOU'LL SEE AL GARRETT CRACKING. YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE CITY HAS COME IN TO PATCH IT OVER THE YEARS. BUT YET IT GOES BACK DOWN TO THE BASE MATERIAL. WHEN IT GOES DOWN TO THE BASE MATERIAL, MOISTURE STEPS IN. AND YOU CREATE PLASTICITY INDEX. IT WILL AFFECT THAT INDEX. AND THEREFORE LEADING TO FURTHER DESTRUCTION UNTIL THE ROAD IS COMPLETELY RECONSTRUCTED. SAME THING IF YOU LOOK ON SADDLE CREEK ROAD. REPAVED IN 2012 BUT THAT'S THE MOST EVER BEEN DONE. THIRD STREET OUT THERED A SATTAL CREEK BUT IT SEEMS TO BE DOING OHHING. IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION. SO THE ASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY SUBMITS THAT THE TIMELY RECONSTRUCTION OF THESE ROADWAYS. WILL HELP PRESERVE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, REDUCE RECURRING MAINTENANCE EXPENDITURES AND PROVIDE A MORE COST EFFECTIVE LIFE CYCLE INVESTMENT OF THE CITY. PLEASE CONSIDER PLACING US ON A LIST FOR EVALUATION AND FURTHER CONSIDERATION AS YOU MOVE FORWARD. HERE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. ELLINGER? SIR? OKAY. THANK YOU JOY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> HELLO MY NAME'S CLAD-- I LIVE ON 5700 METAL DRIVE. AND MEADOW DRIVE IS A STREET THAT RUNS EAST AND WEST OFF OF BUFFALO GAP ROAD IN THE SOUTH PART OF EVERLY. AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT STREET WAS BUILT BACK IN THE '60S. IT DOES NOT HAVE CURB AND GUTTERS. IT HAS A DRAINAGE DITCH ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHICH SEEMS TO WORK PRETTY GOOD. LIKE YOU SAY THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH MAINTENANCE THAT I KNOW OF AT ALL. WE'VE LIVED ON IT FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS. ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD IT IS DETERIORATED SO BAD IT HAS [00:05:01] NOTHING BUT POTHOLES AND RUTS IN PEOPLE'S YARDS. THERE'S MAILBOXES OUT CLOSE TO THE YARD AND THEN WHENEVER ON MONDAYS AND THURSDAYS WHEN TRASH BIN PICKED UP THOSE TRASH CANS THEY ARE PUT OUT RIGHT OUT AGAINST THE STREET. IT'S HARD TO MEET SOMEONE ON THAT STREET. I DID SOME MEASURING THIS AFTERNOON, ONE PART OF THE STREET WAS 20 FEET WIDE. ANOTHER PART OF THE STREET DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER WAS 18 FEET WIDE. AND ANOTHER PART OF THE STREET WAS ONLY 17 FEET WIDE. SO THE OTHER STREETS IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD I MEASURED THEY WERE 36 FEET WIDE. SO THAT'S HALF AS WIDE AS THE ENTIRE STREET. THEY HAVE CURB AND GUTTER. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR CURB AND GUTTER. WE JUST LIKE TO SEE OUR STREET WIDENED. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE SIDES EXTENDED TO WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PULL OVER IN SOMEONE'S YARD OR DOWN THE POTHOLES THAT ARE DOWN BOTH SIDES. AND IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. WE HAVE-- IT'S A STREET THAT'S ONLY A LITTLE OVER A MILE LONG. IT TEES INTO LANTANA A NEWER SUBDIVISION. THERE'S ONLY THREE STREETS IN THAT AREA THAT GO ALL THE WAY UP TO BUFFALO GAP ROAD. THAT'S ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA HAVE GOT TO COME DOWN ONE OF THOSE THREE STREETS TO GET TO BUFFALO GAP ROAD. NOW WITH THE NEW SUBDIVISION THAT'S BEEN PUT OVER OFF 707 WHERE THE NEW WILEY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL'S BEING BUILT, THERE'S-- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HUNDRED OR THOUSAND HOMES GOING TO BE BUILT OUT THERE. THEY'VE EXTENDED RANDY ALL THE WAY FROM 707 WHICH CROSSES MEADOW DRIVE. AND PEOPLE COME DOWN IT AND GO EITHER DIRECTION SOMETIMES. AND NOW THEY ARE EXTENDING IT ON OVER TO ANTLEY TO WHERE THE HIGH SCHOOL IS. SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE CROSSING OUR STREET AND COMING UP AND DOWN IT AT DIFFERENT TIMES. SO IT'S JUST THE SAFETY FACTOR. A LOT OF PEOPLE. LOT OF YOUNG COUPLES LIVE OUT THERE NOW WITH LITTLE KIDS WALKING UP AND DOWN THAT STREET EARLY IN THE MORNING. LATE IN THE EVENING, YOU CAN'T SEE THEM FOR THE SUN EITHER RISING OR SETTING. AND WE KNOW THAT YA'LL HAVE A BIG TASK. THERE'S STREETS IN ABILENE ALL OVER THAT NEED LOTS OF MAINTENANCE. BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYTHING DONE OTHER THAN POTHOLES. WE WILL CALL THE POTHOLE NUMBER. THEY WILL COME OUT WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS. SOMETIMES I'LL GIVE THEM A 5 TO 10 ADDRESSES WHEN I COME BACK DOWN. THEY MIGHT HAVE PATCHED THROUGH OUT OF THE HOPE. BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. YOU SEE THE PETITION THAT I-- WE HAD SIGNED BY MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON OUR STREET. SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN OUT THERE FOR IT. >> ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MIN? >> THANK YOU. VERY MUCH. >> ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? >> RESIDENT OF ABILENE, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I THINK YA'LL HAVE ONE OF THE HARDER JOBS AS A BOARD MEMBER. BECAUSE YOU'RE TASKED WITH AN ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE-- I DON'T-- YOU HAVE AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK ON YOUR HAND. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY GOT ME STARTED. BECAUSE I JUST HEARD PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE STREETS. AND I WANTED TO KNOW HOW DO WE FIX IT? HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM? AND I OF COURSE HAVE BEEN REGULARLY ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS. AND JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS. AND I GUESS MY SUGGEST IS-- IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE BET FOR YA'LL COULD USE THE STREET MAINTENANCE FEE THAT'S COLLECTED ON THE UTILITY BILL OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED. TO TAKE CARE OF RESIDENTIAL STREETS. AND THEN IF THE CITY COULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE BUDGET FROM ITS ACTUAL BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND TO TAKE CARE OF THE LINEAR STREETS. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE RESIDENTS UNHAPPY. BUT THE LINEAR STREETS ARE BEING DOWNGRADED EVERY SUMMER. YOU HAVE SO MUCH ON YOUR PLATE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. AND GOOD LUCK TONIGHT. TRYING TO PICK THE RIGHT ONES. BECAUSE EITHER WAY YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY NEGLECT SOMEBODY THAT FEELS LIKE THEY SHOULD BE HEARD. AND I HAVE RECENTLY DRIVEN AROUND ALL STREETS IN ABILENE AND I AGREE WITH SOME OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. BUT ALL THE STREETS HAVE PROBLEMS. AND IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO PICK WHICH ONCE. I'M SERIOUSLY SAYING THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. BECAUSE IT IS AN IMPORTANT THING IN OUR CITY THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. AND I'M GOING TO HOPEFULLY SEE-- WELL HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOME TOOLS BEING GIVEN TO YOU SO YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU NEED TO DO SO YOU CAN GET THESE STREETS. I KNOW MAX JOHNSON HAZE HIZ TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING IS HARD TO TRY AND GET A PLAN TOGETHER. MAY THEY GET FULLY STAFFED SO THEY CAN DO THIS AGAIN THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT OF TALKING BUT I'M SINCERE IN SAYING THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. AND GOOD LOOK AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. >> THANK YOU. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PART [00:10:01] OF THE MEETING. I KNOW WE'RE-- TO FORMAL ACTION. BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS REQUESTED THE STAFF TO LOOK AT THESE ISSUES AND COME BACK AT A LATER DATE WITH A PROJECT FOR US. SO IF EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, WE WILL MAKE THAT REQUEST THAT STAFF LOOK AT THESE THREE PROJECTS AND COME [ MINUTES] BACK WITH IT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. I THINK YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THOSE. ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE MINUTES? DO I HAVE A NOTION APPROVE AND A SNEKD OKAY. A MOTION AND A SECOND. SHE SHELLY CALL FOR THE VOTE. >> MR. BAILEY? >> YES. >> MS. MART SNEZ. >> YES. >> MR. HURT. >> YES. >> MR. PALLAREZ. >> YES. >> MR. ISBELL. [2. Street Projects for 2026 Street Maintenance Program Update Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion on 2026 Street Projects Street Maintenance Program.] >> YES. >> MR. DEVORA. >> YES. >> MR. TODD. >> YES. >> FULL PASS. >> NEXT ITEM STREET PROJECTS FOR THE 2026 STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM UPDATE. MAX IS GOING TO GIVE US A REPORT HOLD A DISCUSSION AND HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENTS ON IT. >> VERY GOOD. GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. I WILL BE PROVIDING A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR CURRENT PROGRAM. THE FY26. THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY YOU GUYS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN CONSTRUCTION AND WHAT'S UPCOMING. YOU WILL SEE UP THERE THE SELECTED PROJECTS FROM PREVIOUS YEARS. SOUTH 14TH. THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVING PLENTY OF COMMENTS ON. BUT WE ARE IN THE END OF THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THANKFULLY. ALL WE HAVE LEFT IS SOME MARKING AND ATMOS HAS SOME CONCRETE AROUND WHERE THEY TIE INTO SOME OF THE STREETS. AND THIS PROJECT WILL BE CLOSED OUT. SO VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT ONE. THAT'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT TO THAT AREA. SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE HEB AREA. WORK ZONE S10B. THIS WAS ONE THAT YOU GUYS HAD SENT FORWARD IN '24. WE HAD SOME STALLING HAPPENING DUE TO SOME UTILITY LINES THAT HAD TO BE RELOCATED IN THIS AREA OF THE PROJECT. BUT I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO COUNCIL NEXT THURSDAY. TO BE APPROVED TO BEGIN SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE ARE HOPEFUL UPON THAT APPROVAL. NORTH 18TH WAS ONE FROM LAST YEAR AS WELL. THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN AWARDED. AND WE HAD A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING THIS MORNING. THEY SHOULD BE STARTING THAT ROAD BETWEEN THE LIMITS OF THAT ARE SOUTH WILLIS TO MOCKINGBIRD. THAT SHOULD START THE FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST THERE'LL BE CUTTING GROUND OUT THERE. WORK ZONE IN NINE. THIS IS AN ONGOING NEIGHBOURHOOD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. WE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT HALFWAY MAYBE A LITTLE OVER HALFWAY IN THIS NEIGHBOURHOOD. AND IT IS GOING WELL. A LOT OF CONCRETE WORK IN THIS NEIGHBOURHOOD. WHICH WILL BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT. NUMBER FIVE UP THERE IS A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE WHICH YOU GUYS CHOSE LAST YEAR TO SEND FORWARD. WE HAVE STARTED AND GOT THIS PROJECT AWARDED. AND THEN WE WERE INFORMED BY ATMOS THAT THEY HAD A BIT OF UTILITY WORK TO DO RIGHT UNDER THE STREETS. SO INSTEAD OF DOING THIS PROJECT AND THEN HAVING ATMOS RIP WHAUP WE JUST DID, WE'VE DECIDED TO DELAY THIS PROJECT UNTIL 27. ONCE ATMOS GETS IN THERE. THEY WILL REPAIR THE ROADS AND THEN WE WILL FINISH THIS PROJECT BY SEALING OFF THE ROAD AND IT WILL EXTEND THE LIFE OF THAT ROAD SIGNIFICANTLY. [00:15:01] LIT STILL BE ON THE LIST WE'RE JUST DELAYING IT. AND THEN SERVEN AND EIGHT ON THERE AS WELL. THEY ARE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS. SERVEN IS BARROW STREET FROM SOUTH 1 TO THES SOUTH 11TH. THAT ONE HAS BEEN POSTPONED TO 27. BEGINNING OF 27 AND THEN SOUTH 25TH STREET THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE FROM LAST YEAR THAT HAS ALSO BEEN POSTPONED TO 27. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE UPDATE FOR ZSH CURRENT UPDATE. JUST A QUICK SLIDE HERE. SHOWING THE FUND BALANCE FOR THE STREET MAINTENANCE FUND. FOR 26, 27 AND 28. THIS SHOWS WHICH I WILL INFORM A LITTLE LATER ON. THIS IS GIVING YOU GUYS THE BOARD. $3 MILLION A YEAR. NEW ROADWAYS FOR THE NEXT YEAR PROGRAM. >> SO AI QUESTION. I KNOW THAT OVER COULD HAVE THE NUMBERS WRONG BUT I FEEL LIKE OVER THE LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS WE'VE HAD UPWARDS 7.5 MILLION. I THINK EVEN AT ONE POINT 9 MILLION AND EVEN WITH 9 DOING THIS JOB AND PICKING THESE STREETS HAS BEEN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. WHAT IS THE REASONING BEHIND WHY THE BUDGET IS GETTING CUT BY 50%. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE COME UP. ONE IS THE BOND FUNDS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PUT TOWARDS THAT PROJECT. DID NOT GO AS FAR AND THERE WERE A LOT OF NUANCES. SO WE DON'T-- WE'RE OUT OF BOND MONEY. AND WE HAVE A PORTION OF THE ROAD STILL TO DO. AND THIS IS ONE AVENUE THAT WE'RE USING FOR COMPLETING THAT ROADWAY. ALSO AGREEMENTS IN THERE FOR THE CONTINUANCEANCE OF GRIFFETH ROAD. TAPPING INTO THOSE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> SO WHEN 2027 WE HAVE UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AGAIN. >> OKAY. A MOTION TO SECOND TO ACCEPT MAX'S REPORT? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. SHELLY? >> MR. BAILEY? >> YES. >> MS. MARTINEZ. >> YES. >> MR. HURT? >> YES. >> MR. POLLAREZ? >> YES. >> MR. ISBEL SFLCHLT. [3. Street Projects for 2027 Street Maintenance Program Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion, and Take Action on 2027 proposed Street Projects for the Street Maintenance Program.  A. Public Comments ] >> YES. >> MR. DEVORA. >> YES. >> SO PASSED. THE NEXT ITEM IS STREET PROJECTS FOR 2027 STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. MAX WILL GIVE HIS REPORT SEATED SNIBL GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> IN THE 27 THIS IS THE BIG TASK OF THE NIGHT. TO COME UP WITH A PROGRAM FOR 2027. WE DEFINITELY HAVE PLENTY OF OPTIONS FOR YOU. TO CHOOSE. AS WE START GOING THROUGH, WE REMIND OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF WORK THAT WE HAVE. FULL-- REHABILITATION. THESE ARE NEIGHBOURHOOD STREETS THAT ARE PASSED THE USEFUL LIFE THAT WE HAVE TO GO IN. NOT JUST TAKE OFF THE ASPHALT AND PUT NEW ASPHALT DOWN, BUT ACTUALLY GO INTO THE BASE OF THAT TEND TO BE A LITTLE MANUFACTURE EXPENSE INVEST FULL DEPTH REHABILITATION. THE SECOND TYPE IS PARTIAL DEPTH REHABILITATION. WE DO SOME PATCH WORK BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO DOWN INTO THE SUB GRADE. THE LIFE EXTENDER. IT'S BASICALLY SEALING OFF THE ROAD. LIFE EXTENDER. NORMALLY IN THE 5 TO 8 YEAR RANGE IN ORDER TO PROTECT THAT ROAD. BEYOND WHAT IT WOULD BE IF IT WASN'T SEALED. MAKE SENSE? OKAY SO FOR 2027. THESE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS [00:20:01] COME FROM MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS FROM THE OVERALL ASSESSMENT THAT WE HAD DONE MANY YEARS AGO. SEVERAL YEARS AGO. THESE LIST OF STREETS NOT IN PRIORITY ORDER. JUST LISTED UP HERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THE FIRST LIST THERE IN PINK. ARE FULL DEPTH REHABILITATION. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT TEND TO BE A LITTLE MORE COSTLY. IN GREEN ARE THE PARTIAL DEPTH REHABILITATION. AND THEN THE ORANGE. THE ORANGE LISTED THERE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. ABOUT $3 MILLION TO LOOK AT AND WE HAVE BROKEN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS INTOO IN TWO PHASES. MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN YEARS PAST. SO THIS IS YOUR LIST FOR NEIGHBOURHOODS. THIS LIST IS OUR LINEAR STREETS. THESE ARE IN RANKED IN ORDER 1 TO 25. AS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO YOU GUYS. BUT WE DO NOT-- THERE IS NO EXPECTATION FOR-- WE CAN CHOOSE ANY OF THESE THAT YOU CHOOSE. OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK AT A PORTION OF ONE OF THESE ROADS, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? >> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. I'M GOING A LITTLE BACKWARDS SO I APOLOGIZE. BUT THE POSTPONEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE POSTPONED TO 2027, THEY ARE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR, CORRECT? SO THIS $3 MILLION THAT WE'RE SPENDING IS FOR ALL NEW PROJECTS. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. >> MAX, DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH TOTAL FOR THE MAINTENANCE IN THE LINEAR STREETS? DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH TOTAL OF WHAT WHAT THAT ADDS UP TO THAT WE HAVE ON OUR LIST RIGHT NOW? >> FOR THE LIST RIGHT NOW I DO NOT SIR. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I CAN HAVE THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING FOR YOU. MY MATH IN PUBLIC IS NOT GOOD. >> AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS QUITE A LIST WITH A LARGE NUMBER WHEN YOU ADD THAT UP AND THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE 70 OR $80 MILLION LAST TIME I ADDED THAT UP WHICH WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. SO WE'RE FEEDING AN ELEPHANT WITH A TEASPOON UP HERE. >> SO THESE ARE JUST THE LISTS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD. THIS IS NOT A FULL COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF ALL ROADS NEEDED IN ABILENE. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND THEN I HAVE LISTED EACH OF THE PROJECTS IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO GO IN DEPTH. WE CAN GO TO ANY OF THEM TO SEE THE SPECIFIC STREETS ON A MAP. >> WHAT SCARES ME IS THE $2.9 MILLION WHATEVER. WE CAN'T-- THE NEXT YEAR AND FOLLOWING YEAR. NEXT THING YOU KNOW IT'S 6 OR $7 MILLION TO MAINTAIN THAT STREET. THAT'S WHAT SCARES ME. PUTTING IT BEHIND US BEHIND US. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN IT WORRIES ME. $3 MILLION LIKE YOU SAID-- NOT MUCH AT ALL. KIND OF SCARES ME. PEOPLE FOR ABILENE, TEXAS YOU KNOW IT DOES. IT WORRIES ME A LOT. I'M SURE LIKE MEADOW DRIVE I'M SURE IT DOESN'T COST QUITE A BIT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. THAT'S A TOUGH DECISION. >> REALISTICALLY ONLY WHAT ROOM FOR MAYBE TWO PROJECTS. MAYBE ONE AND A HALF MO PRO JEKTS. SO YOU KNOW-- LIKE EVERYBODY SAID IT'S A TOUGH DECISION. AND LIKE-- SAID YOU KNOW WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. SO IT'S JUST-- YOU KNOW IT'S A TOUGH TASK. BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO PICK A FEW ORPIK TWO. PICK ONE. >> HOW WORRIED ARE WE ABOUT INFLATION? WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD IF IT TURNS INTO TWO YEARS WITH THESE ESTIMATED COSTS? >> WE EXPECT A LITTLE BIT. BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH IT. >> ADJUST? >> WE HAVE UPDATED THESE WITH CURRENT COSTS COMPARED TO WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY-- WHENEVER THEY WERE ORIGINALLY PUT IN. >> SINCE THIS BOARD WAS FORMED, [00:25:02] DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN THAT WERE FULL DEPTH. HOW MANY PROJECTS WERE PARTIAL AND LIKE PREVENTATIVE? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT. BUT I CAN HAVE THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING. YES, SIR. THERE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT FLAVOURS IF YOU WILL. WE FOCUSSED A LITTLE MORE ON NEIGHBOURHOODS AT TIMES AND THEN WE WENT TO A COUPLE LINEARS. AND HAVE BOUNCED BACK AND FORTH. >> YEAH, I THINK TO BRANSON'S POINT HISTORIC DAHL THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. Ô> SITTING AND HERE I'M TORN. WE LOOK AT ME SKWEET FOUR SECTION A. WE CAN VOTE THAT'S OUR ENTIRE BUDGET. IF WE DON'T VOTE IT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE NEXT YEAR. AT THE SAME TIME I LOOK AT THESE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROJECTS AND THERE'S SIX PROJECTS THERE. ROUGHLY-- WHAT IS THAT-- MAYBE $5 MILLION? MY QUICK MATH IS NOT ANY GOOD EITHER. BUT TO ME I WOULD LIKE TO TRY-- I MEAN THE MORE PROJECTS I THINK WE CAN DO IN A YEAR, THAT'S KIND OF THE-- WHERE MY HEAD WOULD GO. I'D RATHER BE ABLE TO TELL THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE DOING FOUR PROJECTS FOR 2027 VERSUS 2027 BUDGET WENT TO FIX ONE SECTION IN MESQUITE FOR US. >> I AGREE WITH THAT AND ALSO AM CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD. IF WE FIX ONE AND IT'S HIGH TRAFFICKED AND IT'S REALLY NEEDED FOR THE MAJORITY. SO I MEAN BOTH THINGS ARE VERY-- IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER. >> IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I THINK WE HAVE-- WE'VE SEEN THAT WE-- WITH THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE WE'VE MADE PRETTY VALIANT EFFORT ON MAPLE STREET. ELM DALE ROAD AND GRIFFETH ROAD WHICH I WILL SAY FALL UNDER THE LINEAR CATEGORY. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE SEE US TAKE THIS $3.2 MILLION IN PROGRAM IT TO MAYBE THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, KIND OF WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THIS BOARD, WITHOUT HAVING PREFERENCE OF HOW WE SELECTED AND A TOTAL COUNCILMAN BACK THEN. HE SAID HOW DO YOU SELECT THEM? AND I SAID WELL THIS IS EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES AND I'M GOING TO PUT THE OLDEST ONE ON THE LIST. AND IF YOU LOOK THAT THE. WE HAVE THESE ACRES WHICH ARE TWO OLDEST ONES ON THE LIST. AND & THEN YOU GOT THEM RIGHT BEHIND THEM. >> NOW DID YOU SAY RICHLAND? >> YEAH. >> YEAH I DROVE THAT A FEW WEEKS AGO. I MEAN IT IS ABSOLUTELY AWFUL. SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT NOTICE IT. BUT AFTER BEING ON THIS BOARD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THE ONE THING YOU START TO NOTICE IS THE STREETS AND THE COMMENTS FOLK MAKES. LIKE WHOA THIS IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE. BUT TO THAT POINT, A LOT OF THOSE STREETS THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE PUT ON THE PETITION ARE HORRIBLE. SO LIKE WE SAID WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO PUT THESE ON THE LIST. FOR A LITTER TIME. >> AND WE DID DO THAT CORRECTLY. WE DID AGREE. >> YEAH--. >> MAX, LIKE IF WE WERE TO DECIDE TO TRY TO CHOOSE SECTION B THAT COMES TO $3.4 - MILLION. ARE WE COMPLETELY RESTRICTED INSIDE OF JUST $3 MILLION? >> I WOULDN'T SAY SO SIR. I THINK WE COULD MAKE THAT WORK. >> THEN THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PUT FORTH TO YOU GUYS. I LIKE MR. TODD'S POINT OF IT'S BEEN ON HERE SINCE 2022. >> IS THAT A MOTION? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. >> YEAH. WE HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OH I'M SORRY. >> THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR THE 2027 PAVING. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? >> WE CAN GET ANY MONEY FROM THOSE CENTRES TO HELP OUT. >> ABOVE MY PAYGRADE. >> MAX? >> BRINGING IN A LOT OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC. >> THEY-- THAT'S A REASON TO COME UP AND HERE ASK FOR TAX DEFERMENTS. SO OKAY SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SORRY I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT IF I MAY. SOME OF THE INPUTS AND THIS IS JUST FROM INPUTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM STAFF, SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TONIGHT. [00:30:02] SOUR CREEK SUBDIVISION. I BRING AS ONE OF THOSE THAT HAS BEEN TALKED THROUGH THE STAFF. MEADOW DRIVE WAS ANOTHER ONE. SHIRLEY ROAD HAS BEEN TALKED AND IS ONE THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOU GUYS. HUCKALBERRY LANE, THIS IS A ROAD NORTH OF I20. WEST OF PINE STREET AND IT GOES TO OLD ANSON. IT'S ONE THAT HAS BEEN-- THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL COMMENTS TO A POINT WHERE I FELT THAT I NEEDED TO BRING IT TO YOU. AND THEN RIM ROCK ROAD IS ANOTHER ONE. THIS IS A ROAD SOUTH OF THE LOOP. BETWEEN ROBERTS ZPRIEV CANYON ROCK ROAD. THAT ONE HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION SEVERAL TIMES. AND FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO BRING IT TO YOU GUYS. LOOKING FOR EVALUATING THESE. HAVING STAFF EVALUATE THESE MORE TO BRING BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. OR IF YOU WANTED TO-- NOT DO ANYTHING WITH THE--. >> SO WHEN YOU SAY THE NEXT MEETING, IT'S NOT THE ONE WE'LL HAVE IN A COUPLE MONTHS? >> IN SEPTEMBER, YES, SIR. >> SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT DONE? >> YES. WE'LL EVALUATE THE TWO WE'VE RECEIVED AND BRING THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> OKAY. DO THAT. >> YEAH I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT SHIRLEY ROAD IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. LOT OF FOLKS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ONE. >> YES, SIR. THAT'S ONE UP NORTH OF TOWN. AND IT WAS USED AS AN ENTRY UP TO THE AI. BUT THEY HAVE SINCE CREATED OTHER DRIVEWAYS AND OTHER WAYS TO ACCESS. >> CREATIVE WAYS. YES. >> OKAY. >> JUST A COMMENT. I WILL SAY THAT LIVING ON THE NORTH SIDE, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST A START OF EVERYTHING NORTH OF 20. BECAUSE AS PROGRESS-- HOWEVER YOU DEFINE IT, CONTINUES. THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY IS FINDING ALTERNATE ROUTES EVERY DAY. YOU KNOW GOING IN AREAS WHERE YOU WOULD NOT LIKELY SUSPECT THAT THEY ARE GOING. AND YOU KNOW ROAD NETWORK IN THE AURORA AREAS UP THERE ARE JUST NOT FIT FOR THOSE TYPES OF VEHICLE TRAFFIC. SO IT'S GOING TO GROW EXPONENTIALLY. AND I RECEIVED A LOT OF CALLS AND JUST OKAY-- WE UNDERSTAND THAT, GO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD. WE'LL SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE. BUT THIS IS THE START OF IT. SO IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. >> SO SIR, I'M TAKING THE DIRECTION THAT DO YOU WANT ALL OF THOSE ROADS EVALUATED THAT I MENTIONED? OF SADDLECREEK WAS ONE THAT WAS FROM BEFORE. MEADOW DRIVE WAS ONE. RIM ROCK ROAD, SHIRLEY AND HUCKALBERRY? THOSE FIVE? >> IF YOU CAN GET ALL THOSE DONE BY THE NEXT MEETING, YES, DO THEM. >> I'LL DO MY BEST SIR. >> OKAY. OKAY. I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'M SORRY. >> READY FOR A MOTION ON THE 2027 PROJECTS. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO SELECT WORK ZONE IN 11A AND IN 11B FOR 2027. >> AND I'LL SECOND THAT. >> OKAY. >> MR. BAILEY? >> YES. >> MS. MARTINEZ? >> YES. >> MR. HURT? >> YES. >> MR. PALLAREZ? >> YES. >> MR. ISBELL. >> YES. >> MR. DEVORA. [4. Future Meeting: Receive a Report, hold a Discussion, and Take Action on Future Street Maintenance Advisory and Appeals Board Meeting dates.] >> YES. >> MR. TODD. >> YES. >> SO PASSED. >> OKAY, NEXT ITEM IS FUTURE MEETING. TWO DATES PROPOSED IF I CAN FIND THEM. I HAVE A CONFLICT SEPTEMBER 17TH SO I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE OCTOBER 1ST IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT. >> I'M GOOD WITH IT. >> OKAY. >> I WON'T BE HERE. B BUT--. >> ANYBODY ELTS HAVE CONFLICTS? >> IF THERE'S A QUO RUM. THEN IT'D BE FINE. >> DO WE HAVE QUORUM ON OCTOBER 1ST? >> IT WORKS FOR ME AS OF NOW. >> A MOTION? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO BE OCTOBER 1ST. >> SECOND. >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> OKAY. >> MR. BAILEY? >> YES. >> MS. MART SNEZ. >> YES. >> MR. HURT. >> YES. >> MR. PALLAREZ. >> YES. >> MR. DEVORA. >> YES. >> MR. TODD. >> YES. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.