[ CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:03] MORNING. >> PRAY WITH ME. >> LORD, THANK YOU FOR THE DAY AND ALL YOU BLESSED US WITH AND ALL YOU DO FOR US LORD ON OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES, LORD, PLEASE GIVE US WISDOM TODAY. PLEASE HELP US TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS AND BLESS THIS CITY STAFF AND PLEASE GUIDE THEM IN EACH OF THE ROLES FOR THE COMMUNITY, LORD. PLEASE LET US COME TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER AND DO YOUR WELL FATHER. WE LOVE YOU. WE PRAY. AMEN. >> AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEEIENCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG PLEASE ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD AND ONE INDIVISIBLE. [2. Service Awards: Cole Edmondson - 35 Years - Animal OutreachSandra Sotelo - 25 Years - Finance] >> STATE LAWS WE PICK UP STRAY ANIMALS, DOGS, CATS, RACCOONS, SKUNKS, POSSOMS AND FOXES AND COYOTE AND RATTLESNAKES AND TRY TO KEEP THE STREET SAFE FOR THE PUBLIC. I GUESS THE ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS AGO BUT PICKED UP A KAYMAN. MINIATURE ALLIGATOR THAT PROBABLY GOTTEN AWAY FROM SOMEBODY. IT WASN'T VERY BIG. NOBODY EVER RECLAIMED IT. IT CAN BE EXCITING. THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT EVERY DAY. I'M NOT STUCK IN AN OFFICE IS THE MAIN THING. WE GET PEOPLE THAT FLAG US DOWN. WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HAPPY WITH US AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT AREN'T HAPPY WITH US. IT'S JUST PART OF THE JOB. THERE'S SOME DANGER TO IT. YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE AN AGGRESSIVE OWNER AND AGGRESSIVE ANIMAL. AND YOU'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH BOTH. >> THAT'S TRUE. >> BUT, YES, THERE IS SOME DANGER TO IT. >> WE CHECK AND SEE THAT PAYMENTS ARE HITTING THE CUSTOMER'S ACCOUNTS ON A DAILY BASIS AND USE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TO HELP US IDENTIFY THESE PAYMENTS. SINCE I'M SITTING OR SOMETIMES STANDING LOOKING AT THESE SCREENS, NUMBERS TEND TO CROSS. AND IT JUST GETS -- IT DOES GET FRUSTRATING AT TIMES. YOU NEED A LOT OF PATIENCE. A LOT OF PATIENCE. THERE IS TIMES WHEN IT IS FRUSTRATING. I WALKED OUT OF THE OFFICE JUST TO RESET AND THEN COME BACK AND SEE EVERYTHING WITH FRESH EYES. BUT I LOVE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF MY JOB. I LOVE IT. I CAN SIT HERE ALL DAY AND LOOK AT NUMBERS. BUT SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE A NEEDLE IN THE HAY STACK TRYING TO FIND A CERTAIN PAYMENT. FIRST OF ALL, IN TODAY'S AGE, STICKING WITH THE JOB FOR 25, 35 YEARS IS VERY RARE. AND FOR US TO HAVE TWO TODAY IS PRETTY AWESOME. I GOT TO SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT A JOB FOR 35 YEARS WITHOUT LOSING IT, YOU HAVE TO BE PRETTY DARN GOOD AT IT. SO COLE, COULD YOU COME UP. THERE YOU ARE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? FIRST, THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR 35 YEARS. THERE YOU GO. >> I'D LIKE TO THANK MY WIFE FOR BEING ALONG WITH ME ON THIS JOURNEY AND EVERYBODY THAT SHOWED UP ON MY BEHALF THIS MORNING. THANK YOU, Y'ALL. >> HEY! >> GOT IT. THAT WAS REFLEXES, YEAH. >> AND SANDRA, 25 YEARS. >> THANK YOU. [00:05:03] >> I FORGOT THIS. >> OKAY. >> WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO EVERYBODY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, FOR MY LADIES FROM WORK, AWESOME. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU TO MY HUSBAND FOR BEING HERE. COME ON! FOR KEEPING THE ADDING MACHINE ALIVE. >> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE HER HUSBAND BROUGHT FLOWERS, YOU ARE WELL LOVED. THAT'S A GOOD MAN. >> THAT OR MAKING US ALL LOOK BAD. [ CONSENT AGENDA AND PUBLIC COMMENTS] >> WE NOW MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT CONSISTS OF ITEMS 1 THROUGH 10 AND CONSIDERED WITH ONE MOTION AND NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION UNLESS COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS A SEPARATE COUNCIL. ANY MEMBER WANT TO REQUEST ANY ITEM INDIVIDUALLY. >> NUMBER 9, PLEASE. >> WE WILL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. NO VOTES OR ANY FORMAL ACTIONS TAKEN ON THE SUBJECTS PRESENTED DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PRESENT IDEAS AND INFORMATION TO CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND THE CITY YOU RESIDE IN FOR THE RECORD. WE WILL START WITH CARDS. THERE WILL BE A THREE-MINUTE LIMIT AND WE WILL START THE CARDS. >> JUST TO BEGIN, MR. CAISSIE AND MR. CRAWFORD, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 15. 245 THAT WILL BE IN THE REGULAR AGENDA AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THAT TIME. THE FIRST CARD I HAVE IS JUSTIN WALLACE. >> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK ANY COUNCIL MEMBER TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TIME FOR PUBLIC DISCOURSE ABOUT THE FLOCK CAMERAS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THE UP COMING AGENDA. >> IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM. WE CANNOT MAKE A MOTION. >> I'M ASKING TO ADD TO A FUTURE AGENDA MEETING. >> THERE'S WAY ON THE CITY WEBSITE HOW TO ADD THE ITEM. I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU START THERE. >> ABSOLUTELY. I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME. >> NEXT CARD. >> SPENCERRER BUTCHER. >> I SEE THE TIME HAS STARTED. I HAVEN'T STARTED SPEAKING YET. >> YOU'RE AT THE PODIUM. THE TIME STARTED. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL STAFF THIS MORNING. I'M SPENCER BUTCHER RETIRED VETERAN LIVING HERE IN ABILENE FOR 26 YEARS AND SUPPORT IN SAFE AND SECURE ABILENE AND OPPOSED OF THE FLOCK LICENSE PLATE READERS. I ASKED THE CITY TO STOP USING THE MASS SURVEILLANCE CAMERA UNTIL FULL REVIEW OF THE SECURITY POLICIES AND PRACTICES ARE DONE AND SHARE WITH OTHER INDUSTRIES AND WHAT TO DO TO PROTECT IT. REMEMBER LAST YEAR'S CYBER ATTACK IN CITY HALL AND THE RUSSIANS TOOK OVER THE NETWORK AND HELD FOR RANSOM FOR DAYS AND HACKERS DEMANDED $2.7 MILLIONS AFTER STEALING 477 GIGABYTES OF DATA AND THAT INCIDENT AND OTHERS DEMONSTRATE HOW VULNERABLE THE NETWORKS ARE AND HOW SAFE IS THE DATA COLLECTED BY FLOCK CAMERAS EVERY DAY. CYBER CAMERAS ON THE RISE AND THE COST OF SECURITY AND RECOVERY STOLEN DATA. HOW DO YOU BUDGET FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? GOING TO THE RANSOMWARE ATTACK IT COST 3 MILLION TAX DOLLARS TO RECOVER FROM THE INCIDENT. MONEY TAKEN FROM OTHER PROJECTS AND OTHER ACCOUNTS. $1.4 MILLION WAS USED HERE IN CITY HALL TO REPLACE EQUIPMENT SOFTWARE AND PROVIDE TRAINING. GOOD NEWS IS THE CITY HAS A POLICY, INSURANCE POLICY. MIGHT BE TIME TO REVIEW THAT. IMAGINE THE DAMAGE AND THE LAWSUITS THAT WILL COME WHEN THE A.I. FLOCK CAMERA DATA IS BREACHED. DATA MINING AND CYBER WARFARE ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR THAT DON'T SLEEP. [00:10:02] HEADLINES MORE CYBER ATTACK. TAKE MORE THAN CHANGING PASSWORDS KEEP THE BAD GUYS OF EXPLOITING WEAKNESSES AND GAINING CONTROL AND STEALING SENSITIVE INFORMATION. THE FLOCK DATABASE IS A RICH GOLD MINE AND WORTHY PRIZE TO HACKERS SOME DAY. I ASK THE CITY TO AGAIN CONSIDER IN PLACE AND THE USE OF THE FLOCK CAMERA. BE REMINDED ALSO OF WHAT BEN FLANKLIN SAID THOSE WHO GIVE UP ESSENTIAL LIBERTY FOR THE PURCHASE OF A LITTLE TEMPORARY SAFETY DESERVE NEARLY SAFETY NOR SECURITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU MR. BUTCHER. ANY MORE CARDS? >> NO MORE CARDS. >> WE'RE STILL IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? >> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL AND MAYOR, I'M A RESIDENT OF ABILENE. I WANTED TO SPEND THE TIME THAT ADDRESS THINGS THAT AREN'T BEING ADDRESSED PUBLICLY YET. THE ONLY WAY -- I WILL STOP. YOU CAN REDUCE THE TAX RATE AND RAISE TAXES. THAT'S WHY THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE MATTERS. THE ONLY WAY TO LOWER TAXES IS TO BE AT OR BELOW THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. SO I GOT THIS INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPOSED RATE AND THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AND THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE FROM THE NOTICE ABOUT THE TAX RATE. IT'S A WELL HIDDEN DOCUMENT ON THE FINANCE PAGE NOT UNDER FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY WHERE THE TRUTH AND TAXATION SUMMARY IS. TELLS US THE INFORMATION. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPOSED RATE IS HIGHER THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. I GUESS I NEED TO KEEP THE PROPS RIGHT. SORRY. YEAH, WHATEVER. I TRIED TO HELP MAKE IT EASIER. I MESSED UP. THE PROPOSED RATE IS HIGHER THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. YOU'RE TAKING MORE MONEY TO FUND THE EXPANDING GOVERNMENT. THIS BUDGET BOOK, THIS PROPOSED BUDGET RIGHT HERE IS NOT FOR US. IT'S FOR YOU TO JUSTIFY HOW YOU WANT TO EXPAND OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. I WANT TO RESTORE IT TO HEALTHIER PLACE. GIVING INCOMPLETE DATA OR INFORMATION IS ALWAYS JUST THAT INCOMPLETE. I'M SHOCKED THAT YOU WANT TO RAISE THE TAX RATE ALMOST AS HIGH AS YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT GOING TO THE VOTERS. THAT'S TROUBLING IN ITSELF. ALSO TELLS US SOMETHING ABOUT THIS NEW REVENUE COMING IN THAT IT IS SO MUCH MONEY THAT THE ADOPTED RATE HAD TO BE REDUCED. YOU DIDN'T REDUCE IT OUT OF GOODWILL OR FAVOR TO THE CITIZENS, YOU REDUCED IT BECAUSE YOU HAD TO. THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE WE'RE GETTING. WE KNOW FOR HISTORY IF YOU LOWER TAXES, THE ECONOMIC GROWTH TAKES OFF. WHEN YOU RAISE TAXES, IT SUPPSUPPRESSES IT. LET ME SAY THIS TO BRING CLARITY THAT WILL HAPPY AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, YOU WILL DO YOUR BEST TO JUSTIFY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO TO EXPAND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGAIN FOR THE TENTH STRAIGHT YEAR. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE ONLY OKAY GIVING THE TAX RATE INFORMATION WHICH IS ON PAGE 55, NOT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. THIS HAS NO -- THIS IS PARTIAL INFORMATION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THIS. CITIZENS SEE THIS AND THINK YOU'RE JUST LOWERING THE RATE. AND BUSINESSES CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING. THAT'S WHY YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE REDUCING THE RATE KNOWING THAT PEOPLE WILL READ INTO THAT EVEN IF IT'S NOT TRUE. WE NEED TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND THERE'S A LOT OF THAT NOT HAPPENING AND I DON'T EXPECT IT TO CHANGE NEXT WEEK BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY FOR IT TO CHANGE. BUT TO EXPAND THE GOVERNMENT AND SAY THAT YOU WANT TO GET MORE REVENUE TO PAY YOUR BILLS COMES OUT OF OUR POCKET AND IT'S NOT RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> STILL IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WOULD NOW ASK FOR A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTING OF ITEMS 3 THROUGH 10 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 9. >> SO MOVED. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MAN PATTERSON. >> SECOND. >> SECONDED BY COUNCIL MAN ESPONOZA. >> DISCUSSION? READY TO VOTE? [9. Resolution: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Take Action on Approving the 2026-2027 Action Plan, and Proposed Use of ​Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) and Home Investment Partnership Program (HOME) Funds (Tim Littlejohn)] >> ALL YESES. MOTION CARRIES. >> ITEM 9 AND YOU HAD QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE REQUEST THIS IS THE REPORT OF THE CITY OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ABOUT CDBG AND HOME FUNDS. IF POSSIBLE HAVE IT AFTER THE ZONING REQUEST IN THE REGULAR AGENDA SO PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR THE ZONE THING AND DO THAT AND LEAVE. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO STAY CAN STAY. OR I CAN GO INTO IT NOW. EITHER WAY. BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK AND CONCERNS ABOUT -- >> YOU WANT TO MOVE IT TO WHERE? >> AFTER 18. AFTER THE ZONING. >> DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? >> IT'S UP TO YOU. >> MAYOR, YOU CAN DO IT. [00:15:02] >> YOU CAN DO IT. >> YOU WOULD MOVE US TO THE NEXT ITEM, 11. >> LAST ITEM. >> CONSIDER NUMBER 9 AFTER NUMBER 18 AND JUST MOVE TO -- >> NOT AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION BUT AFTER 18. >> AFTER 18. >> WE WILL MOVE ITEM 9 TO THE END OF THE REGULAR AGENDA AFTER ITEM 18. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. [11. Resolution: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on Approving Adopting the City of Abilene Water Utility Design Standards and Authorizing the Director of Water Utilities to Approve Future Revisions and Updates (Matthew Dane)] ITEM 11 IS BEING PULLED FROM CONSIDERATION TODAY. WE NEED TO CLEAN UP SOME LANGUAGE THERE. [12. Ordinance (Final Reading) CUP-2026-11: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request from the Owner to Apply a Conditional Use Permit to Approximately 0.32 Acres Zoned Central Business (CB) to Allow a Tattoo Parlor. Located at 1240 N 8th Street. (Tim Littlejohn)] MOVE TO ITEM 12 AND ASK TIM LITTLEJOHN DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TO PRESENT THIS ITEM. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. UP FOR CONSIDERATION IS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2020-11 OWNER IS HICKORY AND 8TH LLC AND THE AGENT, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR TATTOO PARLOR WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT LOCATED AT 1240 N 8TH STREET. HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP. HERE IS THE CURRENT ZONING. CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. HERE IS ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN THE DISTRICT. AS YOU CAN SEE ALLOWS CONDITIONAL PERMIT FOR THE USE. HERE ARE THE PROPERTY VIEWS. NEIGHBORING VIEWS. HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. HERE IS THE RECOMMENDED HOURS FROM PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. NOTIFICATION ONE IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED. THIS MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PNZ RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUGGEST TO THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS OF 8:00 A.M. TO 8 P.M. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS OF TIM? >> IS THE PROPONENT HERE? >> I HAVE NO MET THEM. I WON'T BE ABLE TO -- >> I APPRECIATE PNZ EXPANDING HOURS AND ASKED FROM NOON TO EIGHT AND EXPANDED EIGHT TO EIGHT. MONDAY AS CLOSED. IF THEY WANT TO COME BACK AND OPEN ON MONDAY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COP AND HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH LOCKING IT IN WITH TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. >> PLANNING AND ZONING REALLY ASKS THOSE QUESTIONS AND ASKED ABOUT LATER HOURS AS WELL. THE PROPONENT WAS HAPPY WITH WHAT HE HAS. >> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. >> AT THIS TIME OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 12, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ACCEPT A MOTION AND SECOND. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> ARE WE -- IS THE MOTION FOR THE PNZ RECOMMENDATION. >> YEAH. >> JUST TO CLARIFY. A MOTION BY COUNCIL MAN ESPONOZ A AND SECOND. THANK YOU. [13. Ordinance (Final Reading) Z-2026-34: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request from the Owner to Change the Zoning of Approximately 2.23 Acres from Residential Single Family (RS-6) to Medium Density (MD). Located at Property ID 1063914. (Tim Littlejohn)] ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. READY TO VOTE. >> ALL YESES. MOTION CARRIES. >> IT CARRIES. AND ITEM 13 AND TIM LITTLEJOHN WILL PRESENT. >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UP FOR CONSIDERATION IS CASE 2026-34 THE OWNER IS ABILENE FOREST HILL LLC AND ASK TO CONSIDER CHANGE THE ZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 2.23 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RS-6 TO MEDIUM DENSITY LOCATED AT PROPERTY ID 1063914. HERE IS THE LOCATION. HERE IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP. PROPERTY VIEWS. HERE IS ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND THEN THE ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN THE REQUESTED MEDIUM DENSITY ZONING. NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT. WE HAD ONE IN OPPOSITION RESULTING IN A 1.62% IN OPPOSITION. THIS MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE P AND Z DID HEAR THIS CASE AND RECOMMEND TO YOUR APPROVAL THIS MORNING. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS OF TIM? THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 13, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CLAYTON WITH AGENT FOR THE DEVELOPER. LAST PIECE OF THE SUBDIVISION AND REMAINDER PIECE UNTIL THE REST OF THE PROPERTY DEVELOPS TO SEE HOW EVERYTHING TURNED OUT. HE WOULD LIKE TO REZONE THIS IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A SINGLE [00:20:04] DUPLEX STRUCTURE. THERE'S EXISTING OVERHEAD ELECTRIC THAT ABUTTS IT AND ABUTTS THE RS-6 TO THE NORTH AND CONTINUE THE DUPLEXES A HOP SKIP AND JUMP DOWN THE ROAD AT PHOENIX ON THIS LOT AS WELL. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY OF ME. THANK YOU. >> STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 13? SEEING NO ONE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> I WILL MOTION. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MAN BAILEY. SECONDED BY COUNCIL MAN BEARD. HEARD THE DISCUSSION. READY TO VOTE. >> ALL YESES. [14. Ordinance (Final Reading) Z-2026-38: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request from the Owner to Change the Zoning of Approximately 0.33 Acres from Residential Single-Family (RS-6) to Patio Home (PH). Located at 2525 Bel Air Dr. (Tim Littlejohn)] MOTION CARRIES. >> ITEM 14, TIM LITTLEJOHN WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM. >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UP FOR CONSIDERATION IS CASE Z-2026-38 AND THE OWNER AND AGENT IS JACOB MARTIN LLC AND REQUEST TO CONSIDER CHANGING ZONING OF 0.33 ACRES RESIDENTIAL SINGLE HOME TO PATIO HOME DISTRICT LOCATED AT 2525 BEL AIR DRIVE. HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP. THE ZONING MAP. HERE IS THE PROPERTY VIEWS AND SURROUNDING AREA. HERE ARE ALL THE CURRENT ALLOWABLE USES. AND HERE IS THE REQUESTED USES. NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT. WE DID RECEIVE FOUR IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION. THIS MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE P AND Z DID HEAR THE CASE AND RECOMMEND TO APPROVAL THIS MORNING. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS OF TIM? AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 14, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> GOOD MORNING, AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER. THIS ZONING REQUEST IS TO SUPPORT CONTINUED PATIO HOME DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. PROPERTY JUST TO THE NORTH CURRENTLY ZONED PATIO HOME HAS BEEN DEVELOPED BY MY CLIENT CHASE KAISER. THEY WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE A LITTLE BIT OF PROPERTY FROM THE CHURCH TO THE SOUTH. AND SO THEIR INTENT IS TO CONTINUE A HANDFUL OF ADDITIONAL PATIO HOME LOTS IN THE AREA. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF I CAN. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 14? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR DISCUSSION. IF NOT, A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> SO MOVED. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CRAVER AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN PATTERSON. FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'RE READY TO VOTE. >> ALL YESES. MOTION CARRIES. [15. Ordinance (Final Reading) Z-2026-39: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request from the Owner to Change the Zoning of Approximately 0.90 Acres from Medium Density (MD) to General Retail (GR). Located at 3509 S 14th Street. (Tim Littlejohn)] >> MOTION CARRIES AND MOVE TO ITEM 15 AND ITEM LITTLEJOHN WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM. >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL UP FOR CONSIDERATION IS ZONING CASE 2026-39 AND THE OWNER IS RONALD INGRAM. AND REQUEST IS CHANGE ZONING OF 0.9 ACRES MEDIUM DENSITY AND GENRE TAIL ZONING AT 3509 S 14TH. HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP. HERE IS THE CURRENT ZONING. PROPERTY VIEWS. HERE ARE THE CURRENT ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN MEDIUM DENSITY. HERE IS THE REQUESTED USES WITHIN GENR GENERAL RETAIL ZONID REQUESTED USES OF NEIGHBOURHOOD RETAIL ZONING. NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT AND RECEIVED THREE OPPOSED RESULTING IN 12.8% OF OPPOSITION. THIS MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL. P AND Z DID HEAR THIS CASE. THEY DID RECOMMEND DOWN ZONING THE REQUEST FROM GR TO NEIGHBOURHOOD RETAIL. AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE INTENDED USE IS? >> THEY'RE MAKING IT MORE MARKETABLE. HAD THE PROPERTY FOR SEVERAL YEARS. MEDIUM DENSITY IS NOT A GOOD FIT OFF SOUTH 14TH AND WANTING TO TAKE IT TO THE MORE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THEY'RE OPEN TO ANYTHING. THEY'RE JUST READY TO SELL THE PROPERTY. >> SO THE APPLICANT WOULD BE OPEN TO NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, YES, SIR. >> OKAY. >> FURTHER QUESTIONS OF TIM? THANK YOU, TIM. AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 15, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. DO WE HAVE CARDS ON THESE? >> WE HAVE TWO. [00:25:01] >> GARY CAISSIE. >> THAT'S NOT GARY CAISSIE, THOUGH. >> DOESN'T MATTER. YOU WILL GO FIRST. YOU WILL BOTH GET TIME. GO AHEAD. >> I AM JUST... OKAY. >> GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS -- >> WHAT IS YOUR NAME. >> BRAD CRAN FORD, 1425 SYLVAN DRIVE. MY PROPERTY BACKING UP TO THE PROPERTY. WE HAVE A CONTINGENT OF NEIGHBORS HERE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, I HAVE A NEW RESPECT FOR Y'ALL AND WHAT YOU GO THROUGH ON A WEEKLY, MONTHLY BASIS LISTENING TO PEOPLE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. IF APPROVED, WE ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE INCREASED TRAFFIC, CRIME, DRAINAGE PROBLEMS AND ALSO REDUCTION IN THE PROPERTY VALUES. SO WE HAVE A PETITION THERE THAT YOU HAVE COPIES OF. I WOULD ALSO THINK THIS ZONING IS CHANGED, THE COUNCIL WOULD BE SETTING A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT THAT ANY TIME A PERSON BUYS A PROPERTY AND CAN'T RESELL IT, THEN ALL THEY WOULD NEED TO DO IS GET THE ZONING CHANGED. SO EVEN NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL IS GOING TO GIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR -- AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL LIST, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT WE DON'T WANT THERE AS LANDOWNERS THAT BACK UP TO THAT PROPERTY. HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THESE HOMES FOR 20, 30, EVEN 40 YEARS OPPOSE THIS ZONING CHANGE. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PETITION, A WIDE RANGE OF RESIDENTS IN THE ELMWOOD AND RIVER OAKS HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE. >> THANK YOU. NEXT CARD. >> MR. CAISSIE. >> MR. CAISSIE. >> GOOD MORNING. I'M GARY CAISSIE. I LIVE 102 CIRCLE HOLLY AND MY PROPERTY JOINS THIS PROPERTY. WHEN WE WERE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONE MEETING, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT MOVING FROM MEDIUM DENSITY TO GENERAL RETAILOR NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. THE MORE WE LOOKED INTO IT OR THE MORE I LOOKED INTO IT, I SAW IT STILL ALLOWS THINGS THAT AREN'T COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THINGS LIKE RESTAURANTS, BARS, LIQUOR STORES, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT WOULD BE BETTER TO LEAVE IT MEDIUM DENSITY, BUT OUR PREFERENCE OR MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE OR EVEN JUST GO BACK TO SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING OR EVEN THE PATIO HOME WOULD BE GOOD. BUT I THINK TO CHANGE THIS TO A MORE INCLUSIVE TYPE SETTING WOULD DEEVALUATE THE PROPERTIES IN A VERY WELL ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WOULD NOT CHANGE IT OR RECONSIDER IT TO SOMETHING MORE RESTRICTIVE AND MORE LIKE A RESIDENTIAL AREA THERE. THERE IS -- IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO WHAT USED TO BE THE WOMEN'S CLUB. CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT A BIG BLOCK OF BRICKS. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT NOT GO THAT DIRECTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU MR. CAISSIE. NO MORE CARDS. STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 15, ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS RON INGRAM PROPONENT FOR THE CHANGE. I DO WANT TO -- I WANT Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND WE MOVED THE ZONING REQUEST DOWN TO THE VERY MOST RESTRICTIVE ZONING THAT I KNOW OF DOWN TO NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. THE WOMEN'S CLUB RIGHT NEXT DOOR REALLY IS OFFICES OR I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THIS ISN'T A BIG CHANGE TO MOVE THAT TO NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. I CAN SEE A MEDICAL OFFICE OR A -- I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND ALL OF WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT I NOTICE EVERY TIME I DRIVE DOWN BUFFALO GAP ROAD, I SEE THESE LITTLE HOUSES CONVERTED TO BUSINESSES. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. I HAVE OWNED IT FOR FIVE YEARS [00:30:01] AND WE HAD OFFERS. I DROVE FROM THE WINTERS FREE WAY TO SAILS AND ONE HOUSE THAT FACED SOUTH 14 AND IT WAS CROWNN IN THE ELMWOOD ADDITION AND MAINLY BECAUSE THE LOT HAD FRONTAGE AND NOT MUCH DEPTH. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD BUILD THE HOUSE, IT APPEARED. I DIDN'T SEE WHEN I DROVE AND LOOKED, I DIDN'T SEE ANY BUFFER ZONE FROM THE NEIGHBORS TO THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ON SOUTH 14. SO I THINK HAVING A BUFFER REALLY ISN'T APPLICABLE HERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT DONE ANYWHERE ELSE. I JUST HOPE Y'ALL CONSIDER THAT AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU RON. >> THANK YOU. >> STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 15, WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? >> GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MAN MY NAME IS DAVID JONES AND LIVE AT 1441 SYLVAN DRIVE ON THE SAME BLOCK AS MY NEIGHBORS. AS FAR AS NO BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THE WOMEN'S CLUB AND THE HOME, THERE'S THE BIG LOCK. LOT. 40 YEARS HAS BEEN A BUFFER, IF YOU WILL, THAT IS KNOWN. WHAT I'M ADDRESSING AND DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARY OR NOT IS SOME OF THE TECHNICAL STUFF. TIM JUST SAID THIS WAS BEING AN NR BUT IN THE AGENDA SAYS FROM MD TO GR, SO GENERAL RETAIL. IS IT GENERAL RETAILOR NR TODAY BEING CONSIDERED? >> WE CAN CONSIDER EITHER OF THEM. >> AGAGENDA SAYS GR. >> P AND Z RECOMMENDED -- >> WHEN I LOOKED AT THE FIRST READING THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT MEETING IN THE AGENDA, IT SAID GR ALSO. BUT THEN IN THE CITY TEE TOTALLY EASY AGENDA SAID NR AND JUST BEEN SOME CONFLICT. MAKING SURE WE'RE TALKING GR OR NR. >> IT COULD BE EITHER ONE. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE SECOND THING THAT AS FAR AS FOLLOWING PROCEDURE, FROM WHAT I READ IN THE CODE, THAT YOU HAD TO HAVE PROPER SIGNAGE SHOWING THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, IT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION. THERE WAS SIGNAGE UP BEFORE THE P AND Z MEETING TWO OR THREE DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING THAT BIG STORM WE HAD BLEW THE SIGN AWAY. IT WAS NEVER REPLACED. ACCORDING TO THE CODE, IT SAYS THAT THAT SIGNING HAS TO REMAIN THERE THROUGH ALL THE HEARINGS. AND I NEVER SAW THAT REPLACED. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL FOLLOWING PROTOCOL OR NOT OR A TECHNICAL THING THAT KEEPS US FROM MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE THERE HADN'T BEEN PROPER NOTIFICATION THE WHOLE TIME. WANTED TO BRING THAT TO Y'ALL'S VIEW. I THINK IT SAID THAT P AND Z OR THE COUNCIL HAVE TO -- KNOWN IT WASN'T THERE AND AGREED STILL WE'RE ACTION WITH THAT. I NEVER SAW ANYTHING THAT SAW THAT WAS ADDRESSED. >> THERE IS PROVISION IN THE CODE THAT THE SIGNS NEED TO BE PRESENT THROUGH THE PERIOD. THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNS ARE REMOVED OR TAKEN, YOU KNOW, WHO HAS NOTE OF THAT AND WHEN? I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE PARTICULARS OF THAT. I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER WE HAVE TO TABLE THIS OR NOT. I HAVE TO TALK TO P AND Z ABOUT WHAT THE KNOWLEDGE WAS ABOUT THE SIGNAGE. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON THAT? >> YES, THE SIGNS STAY UP UNTIL IT COMPLETES THIS PROCESS. THERE IS A PROVISION IN THERE FOR THE P AND Z OR COUNCIL WHOEVER APPEALS THAT RULING CAN -- Y'ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO STATE WHETHER IT HAS SERVED ITS PURPOSE FOR NOTIFICATION OF THAT AREA. I THINK IT REALIZES THAT MUNICIPALITIES DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO OUT THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY AND CHECK THE SIGN. WE GO OUT THERE PERIODICALLY AND REPLACE SIGNS. WHEN WE HAVE A STORM EVENT OR SOMEONE MAY JUST KNOCK THEM DOWN, WE HAVE THAT HAPPEN ACROSS THE CITY EVERY DAY. BUT STAFF DOES THE BEST OF ITS ABILITY TO KEEP THE SIGNS IN PLACE BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO WATCH THEM 24/7. IT WOULD BE UP TO Y'ALL, IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN PROPERLY NOTIFIED AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS MR. JONES? >> JUST TO FOLLOW-UP, IF YOU VOTE NO TO THE CHANGE GR OR NR AND WANT TO PRESS THIS TO MAKE IT KNOWN, IF YOU WANT TO VOTE YES FOR THE CHANGE, WE MIGHT NEED TO BE TABLED TO COME UP FOR MORE SUPPORT ON OUR SIDE. >> THANK YOU. [00:35:01] >> ON THE PUBLIC HEARING OF ITEM 15, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL ON THE SIGNAGE NOT BEING THERE AT THE CORRECT TIME. >> I THINK THE QUESTION IS DID THE SIGN INITIALLY SERVE ITS PURPOSE? WE KNOW HAD A WIND STORM. NO ONE REPORTED IT GONE. WAS IT OUR DUTY TO GET IT OUT THERE. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. >> I MEAN, PERSONALLY I'M LEANING MORE TOWARDS NO TO BOTH. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS TO FEEL AS IF THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE NOTIFIED IN A RESPECTABLE WAY. BUT PERSONALLY, IT'S NOT GOING TO -- IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WOULD ALTER WHERE I'M LANDING, BUT I GUESS IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS. >> I DON'T THINK NR IS COMPATIBLE. I THINK THERE'S OTHER ZONING THAT IS PROBABLY A BETTER FIT FOR THAT AREA. I'M A NO ON THIS ANY WAY. THE SIGNS WOULD BE IRRELEVANT. >> I DON'T LIKE NOT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THE PLAN IS AND JUST CHANGING IT FOR PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING TO WHO COMES IN, I DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT. >> IF WE DID THAT, YOU COULD BUILD THE COMMUNICATION ANTENNA CAR WASH, DRIVE-THRU FACILITY, GARAGE SALE LOT. THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE BUILT NR BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S NOT GOOD FIT. THERE'S OTHER THINGS -- I RESPECT THE PROPONENT'S DESIRE TO MAKE IT MORE MARKETABLE. I THINK THERE'S BETTER PATHS MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> TIM, OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT DID THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS RESTRICTIONS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. >> 6:00 A.M. TO 11 P.M. YES, SIR. AND NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE IS THE EXACT SAME HOURS AS WELL. JUST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION AND SECOND. >> MOTION TO DENY. >> CORRECT. >> I'M MOTIONING TO DENY THE REQUEST. >> I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST. >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY. FURTHER DISCUSSION? TWO NOES AND ONE FROM MAYOR HURT AND COUNCILMAN PATTERSON. THE REST ARE YESES. THE MOTION TO DENY CARRIES. >> MOTION IS DENIED. [16. Ordinance (Final Reading) Z-2026-40: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request from the Owner to change the zoning of approximately 3.40 acres from Agricultural Open (AO) to General Commercial (GC). Located at 1627 and 1613 Musgrave Boulevard. (Tim Littlejohn)] MOVE TO ITEM 16. I WILL ASK TIM LITTLEJOHN TO MENTION IT. >> UP FOR CONSIDERATION IS ZONING CASE 2026-40 AND THE OWNERS IS GABE BETCHER AND APPLICANT IS JACOB MARTIN. REQUEST FOR YOU CONSIDER CHANGE OF ZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 3.4 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE OPEN SPACE TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT 1613 MUSGRAVE. HERE IS LOCATION MAP. HERE IS THE ZONING MAP. HERE ARE THE PROPERTY VIEWS. HERE ARE THE CURRENT ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN AGRICULTURE OPEN SPACE. HERE IS THE REQUESTED USES, ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN GENERAL COMMERCIAL. NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT. WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY IN RETURN. THIS MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. P AND Z DID HEAR THIS CASE AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL THIS MORNING. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS TO TIM? THANK YOU, TIM. AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD, GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> GOOD MORNING. AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER. THIS PROPERTY HAS REMAINED IN AO SINCE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. KIND OF SURPRISED THAT IT HAS BEEN AO UP TO THIS POINT. OBVIOUSLY THE HARD CORNER OF MUSGRAVE BOULEVARD AND I-20. THE INTENT FOR THE ZONING IS SUPPORT A NEW HOTEL ON THIS TRACK. CURRENTLY TWO TRACKS. IT WILL BE TO ONE LOT AND HAVE A HOTEL THERE. SO CERTAINLY WE THINK GC IS APPROPRIATE ZONING AND LOOKING [00:40:04] FOR SUPPORT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> YOU CAN QUAIL THE BUCKIE'S RUMOUR. >> I THINK I JUST DID. >> BUCKIES. >> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> IF WE KEEP THE RUMOUR GOING, CAN WE GET ONE? THAT'S MY QUESTION. >> YOU HAVE TO TALK TO FORMER COUNCIL MAN YATES. >> STILL ON THE PUBLIC HEARING OF ITEM 16, ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NO ONE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR DISCUSSION. IF NOT ACCEPT A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN BEARD AND SECONDED BICORNSMAN PRICE. READY TO VOTE? >> MEMBER BEARD. >> SORRY. THOUGHT I HAD IT. >> ALL YESES. [17. Ordinance (Final Reading) Z-2026-41: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request from the Owner to Change the Zoning of Approximately 0.32 Acres from Heavy Industrial (HI) to Heavy Commercial (HC). Located at 2202 Butternut Street. (Tim Littlejohn)] MOTION CARRIES. >> MOTION CARRIES. MOVE TO ITEM 17 AND TIM LITTLEJOHN AGAIN. >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UP FOR CONSIDERATION IS ZONING CASE 2026-41. THE AGENT IS -- I'M GOING TO BUTCH IT UP A LITTLE BIT. NOKASHIKI REQUEST IS CHANGE OF ZONING 0.2 ACRES FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT 2202 BUTTERNUT. HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP. HERE IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP. HERE ARE THE PROPERTY VIEWS. HERE IS THE CURRENT ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. HERE ARE THE ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN THE REQUESTED HEAVY COMMERCIAL. NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT. WE DID RECEIVE FIVE IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION. THIS MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL WITHIN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. P AND Z DID HEAR THIS CASE AND RECOMMEND TO YOUR APPROVAL THIS MORNING. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS OF TIM? THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 17, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NO ONE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ACCEPT A MOTION AND SECOND. >> SO MOVED. >> MOTIONED BY COUNCIL MAN PRICE. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CRAVER, [18. Ordinance (Final Reading) Z-2026-42: Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion and Public Hearing, and Take Action on a Request from the Owner to Change the Zoning of Approximately 7.59 Acres from A Planned Development District (PDD-53) to Office (O). Located at 6550 Directors Parkway. (Tim Littlejohn)] READY TO VOTE. >> ALL YESES. MOTION CARRIES. >> MOTION CARRIES. TO ITEM 18 AND TIM LITTLEJOHN FINISH YOUR PRESENTATIONS. >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UP FOR CONSIDERATION IS ZONING CASE 2026-42. THE AGENT IS JUSTIN ALLEN. THE OWNER IS FUNERAL DIRECTORS LIFE. THE REQUEST FOR CONSIDER IS CHANGE THE ZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 7.59 ACRES FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 53 TO STRAIGHT OFFICE ZONING LOCATED AT 6550 DIRECTORS PARK WAY. HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP. HERE IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP. PROPERTY VIEWS. HERE ARE READY USES WITHIN THE OFFICE ZONING. FOLLOWED THIS ZONING DISTRICT ANY WAY, THEY JUST HAD SOME LIMITATIONS ON HEIGHT AND DIFFERENT SETBACKS IS ALL. HERE IS NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT. WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY IN RETURN. THIS MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. P AND Z DID HEAR THIS AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS OF TIM? THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 18, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> GOOD MORNING. JUSTIN ALLEN AGENT FOR THE OWNER. FUNERAL DIRECTORS LIFE INSURANCE IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. THEY'RE LOOKING AT EXPANDING THEIR OPERATIONS, ADDING MORE PEOPLE. WHEN WE GOT LOOKING OVER THE PDD, AGAIN, AS TIM SAID, IT'S SETBACKS EVE ON THE SIDES AND TE HEIGHT ISSUE. ANYTHING GO STRAIGHT WITH ANYTHING ON THE OFFICE. >> THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE IT. >> STILL ITEM 18. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. IF NOT ACCEPT A MOTION AND SECOND. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CRAVE R AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BEARD. >> ALL YESES. MOTION CARRIES. >> NOW MOVE TO ITEM 9. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. COUNCILMAN PRICE HAD -- >> THIS ITEM CAME TO US AS ANNUAL REPORT WE DO WITH CDBG AND WHEN WE GOT IT THIS WEEKEND, I QUIT AFTER FIVE PAGES. I FOUND SO MANY PROBLEMS. WE GOT THE UPDATED PACKET LAST [00:45:05] NIGHT ABOUT 4:30. AND I GOT TO READ IT AFTER I GOT HOME AFTER CHURCH AND SO I'M READY TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE PACKET. YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A COPY OF IT TO MAKE NOTES ON. >> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. >> GOOD MORNING. >> PAGE 11. >> PAGE 11. >> IT SAYS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BOX THAT THERE WERE FLYERS POSTED AT THE REC CENTERS FOR THE APRIL 6TH, PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THE REC CENTERS RIBBON CUTTING WERE APRIL 22ND. I'M CURIOUS HOW WE POSTED AT THE REC CENTERS FOR THE EVENT -- >> THAT WOULD ONLY BE ROSE THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS OPEN. >> IT SAYS REC CENTERS PLURAL. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING. OKAY. CLOSE TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT, THE SENTENCE THE INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF ABILENE ALONG WITH WHEN FUNDING APPLICATIONS WHEN WOULD BE AVAILABLE, SEVERAL GUESTS HAD PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE DIFFERENCE IN CRITICAL REPAIR AND SINGLE FAMILY REHAB. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY THERE. IT SOUNDS LIKE MULTIPLE CONCEPTS OR IDEAS THAT ARE STRUNG TOGETHER. >> YES, SIR. WHEN WE HAVE OUR MEETINGS, OF COURSE, THE QUESTION IS BROUGHT UP OF THE INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS AND HOW TO PREVENT IT. AND SO IN THAT INSTANCE WE TALK ABOUT THE CRITICAL REPAIR AND REHAB PROGRAMS TO TRY TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. >> OKAY. >> BEFORE WE SUBMIT THIS, CAN WE REWORD THAT? >> YES, SIR. >> JUST FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT, THIS IS DUE THIS WEEKEND. WHY NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS OFFLINE. NEXT IS ON PAGE -- LET'S SEE. PAGE 30 OF THAT DOCUMENT. >> OKAY. >> UNDER NUMBER 4, SINGLE FAMILY REHABILITATION. >> YES, SIR. >> WE ARE DESIGNATING 1,2 1,251,601.44 FOR TWO LOW AND MODERATELY INCOME HOUSEHOLD REHABILITATIONS. THAT'S $600,000 PER HOME THAT WE'RE GOING TO REHAB. >> NO. IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING, I COMPLETELY -- I PONDERED BACK AND FORTH ON THIS ONE. THE REASON WE HAVE TO SET A MINIMAL NUMBER, I GUESS I SHOULD REWORD IT AS A MINIMUM OF TWO LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. WE CAN DO AS MANY AS WE CAN GET WITH THAT AMOUNT OF FUNDS. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT AT THE END OF YEAR WHEN HUD REVIEWS WHAT WE HAVE DONE, IF WE DON'T AT LEAST MEET THE MINIMUM, IT'S NOT -- HOW DO I SAY IT? IT'S NOT GOOD ON OUR CAPER. SO WE CAN DO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. BUT I GUESS I SHOULD JUST CHANGE IT TO A MINIMUM OF TWO. >> OKAY. IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. >> YES. >> IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDIRECT SOME OF THAT FUNDING TOWARDS THE CHOTO FOR NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION. >> WE CAN. >> IF NOT SPENDING IT ALL FOR REHAB. >> WE ARE ABLE TO. THE THING WITH THAT IS CHOTO IS STILL CATCHING UP FOR THE PREVIOUS YEARS. WE'RE TRYING A NEW STRATEGY WITH SINGLE FAMILY REHAB AND ADVERTISING MONTHLY ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE OF REHABS AND REVIEWED THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES TO REDUCE THE STRICT RESTRICTIONS. THE PROBLEM AND THE CHALLENGES WE ARE SEEING WITH THE REHAB PROGRAM IS CLIENTS HAVE TO COMPLETELY VACANT THEIR HOME DURING THE REHAB AND FINDING A PLACE TO LIVE AT THE MOMENT IS FINANCIALLY STRESSFUL ON THEM. SO WE ARE DILIGENTLY WORKING. WE HAVE CURRENTLY TWO HOUSES RIGHT NOW IN LEAD TESTING PORTION OF THIS AND WE'RE HOPING THEY WILL BE A GO AND WE'LL GET THAT PROGRAM BACK STARTED. BUT ON A GOOD NOTE, SOME OF THIS FUNDS CAN BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO HOME BUYER THAT WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE CLOSED THREE PENDING ONE MORE AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. SO THAT'S BLOOMING. SO THAT'S HELPING. >> OKAY. >> ON THE NEXT PAGE, WE'RE [00:50:01] DESIGNATING 30,000 TOWARDS, BEGINS ON THE BOTTOM OF 30 AND FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM DESIGNATING 30,000 AND MAYBE NEEDS MINIMUM THREE AND THREE HOMES AT 75 A HOUSEHOLD IS 225 AND NOT THE WHOLE 30. >> NO. WITH THE PROGRAM LIKE I SAID WE CAN TRANSFER FROM REHAB TO HOME BUYER. YES, IT'S A MINIMUM. >> THEN KIND OF DOVE TAILING INTO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARD TO THE DIFFICULTY IN HOUSING, ON PAGE 35, THERE'S ONE YEAR GOALS FOR THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS SUPPORTED THROUGH AND THE FIRST ITEM IS RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND WE HAVE ZERO UNDER RENTAL ASSISTANCE. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDERED USING THE FUNDING WITH. >> IN THE PAST ADMINISTRATION GOTTEN AWAY OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND LEAVE IT TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. WE STRICTLY ASSIST HOME-OWNERSHIP AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THAT SENSE. >> HOW MUCH DID WE HAVE CARRIED OVER FROM LAST YEAR THAT WE DIDN'T SEND? >> FOR REHAB? >> THAT WOULD -- THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED TOWARDS RENTAL ASSISTANCE. I DON'T REMEMBER IF THAT'S CDBG OR HOME. >> IT'S HOME. YES, IT'S HOME. ABOUT 300,000. >> SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY MAYBE WITH THE RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS WE'RE FACING BECAUSE OF HOUSING UNAVAILABILITY TO GO IN AND DO THESE REHABS, MAYBE WE CAN USE THE FUNDING TO HELP PEOPLE WITH RENTAL ASSISTANCE NEEDING THAT SINCE THAT'S AN ALLOWABLE USE FOR THIS FUNDING. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON THAT BEFORE THE DEADLINE. PAGE 40. SECOND LAST PARAGRAPH. CLOSE TO THE BOTTOM SAYS CARE PACK FOR KIDS IS OFFERED. THE PROGRAM IS SERVING TEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH ABOUT 1200 WEEKEND CARE PACKS EVERY WEEK NEEDS TO BE FIXED. >> OKAY, YES. >> THAT'S NOT WORDED YELL. ON THE LAST LINE SAYS THE ORGANIZATION ALSO ASSISTS, SHOULD BE PLURAL. >> OKAY. >> ON PAGE 43, CLOSE TO THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE IS A BULLET FOR REGULATIONS AND PERMITTING PROMISES. ABILENE CAN CONTINUE TO REVIEW ZONING AND PERMITTING PROCESSES TO CUT DOWN ON FINANCIAL COSTS OF TIME SPENT AND REVIEW FOR DEVELOPERS TO ULTIMATELY REDUCE THE COST OF NEW AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENTS. IS THAT SOMETHING. IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THERE IS STILL AREAS THAT WE'RE NOT WORKING WELL WITH HOME BUILDERS. >> WE ARE. THIS WAS A DIRECTIVE FROM ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO FROM ADMINISTRATION THAT WE WOULD WAVE THOSE FEES. WE DON'T CHARGE THEM ANY OF THE ZONING FEES OR THE PERMIT FEES TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND WE TRY TO JUST LIKE WE DO WITH EVERYBODY ELSE TRY TO EXPEDITE THEM THROUGH. YEAH, SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE IMPROVEMENTS AND BE AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN. >> THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM WE NEED IN THE REPORT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. >> WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD THAT. >> IT'S ALREADY IN HERE. SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE DOING IT. >> WE'RE DOING IT. THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU, TIM. A COUPLE BULLETS DOWN, HIGH CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND TARIFF UNCERTAINTY. OKAY. THE SUPREME COURT REMOVED TRUMP'S TARIFFS EARLIER THIS YEAR. THERE'S BEEN A HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS REFUNDED. HOW ARE TARIFFS IMPACTING CURRENTLY FOR THE NEXT YEAR HOW ARE TARIFFS IMPACTING THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS? >> I GUESS IT SHOULDN'T BE TARIFFS. MORE JUST OF THE LOCAL EXPENSES OF CONSTRUCTION COST. , SO I GUESS I CAN REMOVE THAT. >> OKAY. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAD THAT IN THERE. IF WE CAN REMOVE THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> OKAY. >> NEXT BULLET, LOW NUMBER OF LIVING WAGE JOBS AVAILABLE. WITH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AND EVERYTHING WITH THE DATA CENTERS, WE STILL DON'T HAVE LIVING WAGE JOBS AVAILABLE? >> WE ARE STILL AS FAR AS THE CLIENTELE WE SEE IN THE OFFICE, SOME ARE STILL AT THE POVERTY LEVEL. SO THAT'S WHAT WE BASE THIS ON. SOME OF THEIR INCOME IS NOT ENOUGH TO GET A LOAN FOR A HOME. BUT THEY DO SOME OF THE CLIENTS THAT HAVE HOMES FIT INTO THE REHAB PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF THE VERY LOW WAGES THEY HAVE. >> OKAY. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S [00:55:03] BECAUSE THERE'S A LOW NUMBER OF LIVING WAGE JOBS AVAILABLE. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF LIVING WAGE JOBS AVAILABLE IN ABILENE. THERE MAY NOT BE TRAINING THAT'S NEEDED FOR SOMEONE TO ACHIEVE THOSE JOBS. PAGE 46. MAY NOT BE REQUIRED UNDER WHAT WE REPORT AND ACTION PLAN TO REDUCE LEAD-BASED PAINT HAZARDS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DEAL WITH WATER SUPPLY LINES. THERE'S A REMEDIATION FOR THAT. IS THAT NOT EXPECTED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THIS EVEN THOUGH THAT IMPACTS HOUSEHOLDS AS WELL. >> WE DON'T ADDRESS THE WATER PART. WE'RE JUST -- HUDD MORE IS ON THE PAINT SIDE IN THE HOUSE. >> SO THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE WATER IN THIS REPORT? >> NO. NOT IN THIS REPORT. >> OKAY. >> PAGE 47. >> HALF WAY DOWN THE CDBG AND HOME FUNDS USE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS AND OTHER SPECIAL NEEDS. THAT SENTENCE NEEDS TO BE REWORKED. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HELPING MEET THE DEMAND FOR HOMELESSNESS. WE'RE -- >> YES. >> NEXT SENTENCE SAYS GB DANIELS REC CENTER RECENTLY DEMOLISHED IN 2026 AND SEARS WAS LEFT OUT, THE CENTER. >> YES. >> BOTTOM OF PAGE 49, THAT LAST LINE THAT HAS ESTIMATE PERCENTAGE FOR CDBG FUNDS LAST LINE SAYS WE NEED TO SPECIFY THE YEARS COVERED THAT INCLUDE THIS ANNUAL ACTION PLAN. WE HAVE THE PERCENT BUT NOT THE YEARS INCLUDED. I THINK IT'S JUST CURRENT YEAR BUT IT'S NOT SPECIFIED. >> CURRENT YEAR. >> THAT IS STATED AS REQUIRED. PAGE 50, ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE PARAGRAPH THAT STARTS UNDER RECAPTURE AT THE END OF THE PARAGRAPH, THE AMOUNT FORGIVEN BE BASED ON 1/60 PER MONTH FOR EACH FULL MONTH THAT THE PROPERTY IS OCCUPIED AS THE PRINCIPAL RESIDENCE. WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME? FIRST MOVED IN 20 YEARS AGO? WHEN THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION? WHEN THEY COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION? >> WHEN WE SIGN OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM. >> WE NEED TO SPECIFY WHEN THAT CLOCK STARTS. >> OKAY? BECAUSE SOMEONE COULD ARGUE I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE 20 YEARS AND MET THE FULL-TIME FRAME. >> THEN THE LAST FULL PARAGRAPH, THE FIRST WORD ON THE SECOND LINE IT LOOKS LIKE IT SHOULD BE RATIO INSTEAD OF RATION. >> YES, SIR. >> BEGINNING OF NEXT PAGE TALKS ABOUT RECORDING DEED OF TRUST AND REAL PROPERTY RECORDS OF TAYLOR AND JONES COUNTY SINCE ABILENE EXTENDS INTO JONES COUNTY. >> I SEE. >> THE SAME THING AT THE TOP OF THE NEXT PAGE. TAYLOR COUNTY OR JONES COUNTY. >> THAT'S ALL MY NOTES. >> OKAY. >> SINCE MAYOR IS OUT, I WILL STEP IN. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON CDBG HOME? >> I THINK I APPRECIATE YOU CATCHING SOME OF THOSE. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS MORE OF LIKE JUST PREVENT LIKE WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO DESIGN THAT ASSISTANCE WITHOUT CREATING A CLIFF WHEN THE ASSISTANCE ENDS AND MORE SO FIGURING OUT THE DISPLACEMENT PIECE OUTSIDE OF THE HOME AND REHABBED AND SUCH. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE -- I KNOW GETTING THE WORK IN LATE JUST HAVING THE PERSON KIND OF BE ANOTHER SET OF EYES. I'M SURE YOU WERE DOWN TO THE REQUIRE TO GET IT DONE AND ESTABLISHED, JUST HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF ANOTHER MAYBE LAYER OF PEOPLE'S EYES ON IT TO CATCH SOME OF IT. I THINK SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IS A LITTLE BIT ASUMPTIVE. SOME OF THE PEOPLE READING IT MAY NOT UNDERSTAND IT COULD BE UP TO OR COULD BE -- SO EITHER CLEANING THE WORDING OR HAVING LIKE SOME TYPE OF VISUAL THAT CAN GIVE SOMEONE AN UNDERSTANDING OF, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, WHAT IT COULD BE USED FOR, WHAT DEMOGRAPHIC DOES IT TYPICALLY TEND TO IMPACT IN TERMS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT OF. I WAS READING IT REALLY LATE. AS I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T ALWAYS DO ON THE WEDNESDAY NIGHT. BUT THANK YOU FOR -- I KNOW IT [01:00:01] TAKES A LOT OF WORK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK TO GET THIS DONE. AND ALL THAT YOU DO AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SERVE. YEAH, APPRECIATE IT. NOTHING ELSE. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I JUST -- THIS HAS BEEN FRUSTRATING BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENED THIS YEAR, IT HAPPENED LAST YEAR. IT HAPPENED BEFORE. YOU WERE HERE AS CITY MANAGER, IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO YOU. BUT WE GET THIS DOCUMENT THE MEETING RIGHT BEFORE IT'S DUE, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AND QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. AND SO I WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE A DEADLINE OF TWO MEETINGS BEFORE THE DEADLINE WHERE IT'S BROUGHT TO COUNCIL. SO IF THERE ARE ISSUES WHERE WE HAVE QUESTIONS AND NEED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANSWERS, THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING TO COME BACK TO WHERE IT CAN BE TABLED OR IT CAN BE JUST PULLED FROM THE AGENDA BY STAFF AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, OKAY, LET'S SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH THESE THINGS. THAT'S MY REQUEST. >> CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT THAT WOULD PER P PERTAIN TO? >> THIS DOCUMENT. >> IT'S DUE EVERY YEAR AND NOT A SURPRISE. AUGUST 15TH OR WHATEVER. NOT BRING IT THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST BUT THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY SO IF WE GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR, THEN WE CAN HAVE THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND WE CAN SET IT ASIDE UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST AND ADDRESS IT THEN. >> YEAH, THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT A PROBLEM TO GET IT TO YOU EARLY. THE ONLY ISSUE IS SOME NUMBERS WILL BE BLANK, BECAUSE SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THAT DOCUMENT NOW WE DIDN'T RECEIVE UNTIL LAST WEEK. >> OKAY. >> BUT WE'LL LEAVE A SPACE. AS LONG AS YOU'RE AWARE GETTING TO YOU EARLY IS NOT A PROBLEM. SOME OF THE THE SPACES MAY BE BLANK WAITING FOR NUMBERS. ONCE WE FIX THIS, WE WILL WORK WITH YOU EARLY TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE DOCUMENT YOU WANT AND USE IT AS THE TEMPLATE EVERY YEAR. >> OKAY. HAVING A HANDFUL OF NUMBERS ARE BLANK OUT OF 52 PAGES GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ 52 PAGES. >> YES, SIR, I UNDERSTAND. >> BEFORE THE NIGHT BEFORE. >> YES, SIR. DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU. >> IF I MAY FOR CLARITY SAKE FOR THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT, COUNCILMAN PRICE YOU ASKED ABOUT WHETHER THE COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO ALLOCATE ANY RESOURCES TOWARDS THAT RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL, WE NEED TO KNOW IT NOW SO THAT THE DOCUMENT CAN BE UPDATE THAT TO REFLECT THAT. >> WHAT NUMBERS ARE AVAILABLE? HOW IS IT VETTED? THAT'S THE BENEFIT OF TALKING ABOUT IT EARLIER THAN THE DEADLINE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WE'RE CONSIDERING THAT SO THEY CAN PROVIDE INPUT. >> IT'S HARD TO ANSWER THAT WITHOUT KNOWING HOW MUCH MONEY IS LEFT OVER FROM A GRANT. >> YEAH. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SHIFTING WITHIN THE GRANT FUNDING. IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHAT TO AUTHORIZE WITHOUT KNOWING HOW MUCH IS LEFT OVER. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> LET LATISHA ANSWER THAT ONE. >> TO BETTER ANSWER THAT QUESTION, HISTORICALLY, WHEN WE RECEIVE CARES ACT FUNDING, WE ALLOCATED A LOT TOWARDS RENTAL ASSISTANCE. BUT OUR STAFF DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO RUN A PROGRAM OF THAT SORT DUE TO THE HIGH VOLUME OF REQUEST AND THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER HOME. SO WE OUTSOURCED IT TO CHRISTIAN SERVICE CENTER AND UNITED WAY. >> GOTCHA. >> THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK IS WHAT ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE TRACKING, RECERTIFYING. >> GOTCHA. >> WHEN YOU SAY OUT -- DID I INTERRUPT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. WHEN YOU SAY OUTSOURCE, ARE WE PAYING THEM TO HELP WITH THAT PIECE. >> YES. >> SO LIKE 211 OR -- >> CORRECT. >> OKAY. >> THEY WERE GIVEN ADMINISTRATION COSTS. >> GOTCHA. OKAY. >> OUT OF THE GRANT FUND? >> YES. >> GOTCHA. >> SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE. IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO FURTHER RESEARCH AS FAR AS WRITING THE RENTAL PROGRAM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE NONPROFIT WITH HOW THE PROGRAM WILL WORK. >> GOTCHA. >> SO THE DEADLINE IS THIS WEEKEND. >> YES, SIR. >> WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION TODAY. IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN HOW WE TAKE ACTION THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN WITHOUT WAITING A YEAR? >> I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. [01:05:04] >> I MEAN, THIS JUST DRIVES HOME THE POINT. THIS NEEDS TO BE THE MEETING BEFORE THE DEADLINE. >> HUNDRED PERCENT. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DUTIES OF STAFF AND EVERYTHING, I DON'T THINK I'M COMFORTABLE WITH TRYING TO DO THAT THIS YEAR EVEN THOUGH THAT MONEY IS THERE. I UNDERSTAND. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YES, YES NEED PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT THIS. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE TRYING TO DO RENTAL ASSISTANCE THIS YEAR WHEN WE DON'T HAVE MORE INFORMATION. >> I DON'T THINK THE PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE LESS NECESSARILY NEXT YEAR. MAY BE A LITTLE BIT LESS. WE WILL STILL HAVE THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE NEED. >> I AGREE. >> I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO BE LOOKING AT THAT SO WE CAN HAVE -- THAT CAN BE A DISCUSSION WHEN YOU HAVE THE PUBLIC MEETINGS IN APRIL TIME FRAME. WE'RE PREPARED TO ADDRESS THIS WITH THE INFORMATION. >> WE WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU COUNCILMAN PRICE. AT THIS TIME OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 9, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I WILL ACCEPT THE MOTION AND SECOND. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH THE MODIFICATIONS AND CHANGES SUGGESTED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PRICE AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BEARD. FOR DISCUSSION. READY TO VOTE. >> ALL YESES. [ EXECUTIVE SESSION] MOTION CARRIES. >> CARRIES. NOW 9:36 A.M. AND RECESS TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETING ACT SECTION 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY SECTION 551.072 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT REAL PROPERTY AND SECTION 551.073 DELIBERATION ABOUT GIVE AND DONATION AND 551.074 PERSONAL MATTERS AND 551.075 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT SECURITY DEVICES AND 551.087 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT BUSINESS PROSPECTS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE WILL BE BACK. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.