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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF

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THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

[INVOCATION]

WE GENERALLY START WITH A PRAYER.

I AN INVOCATION PLEASE.

>> GOD, WE COME AT THIS MOMENT, REALIZING THAT WE NEED YOU MORE THAN EVER BEFORE, WE COME GOD REALIZING THAT YOU STILL LOVE US.

A WHERE WE ARE, AT THIS STAGE.

THE AND GOD, WE ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO SHOWER YOUR FAVORS UPON US.

W THIS CITY, ABILENE, TEXAS, THE AND ALL OF THE LEADERS, THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, COUNCILMEN, ALL OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO KEEP US INFORMED AND HELP US TO SHUN THE EVIL THAT SATAN HAS ALLOWED TO INVADE OUR TERRITORY.

GOD WE ASK YOU TO REMEMBER THOSE THAT HAVE BEE AFFLICTED, REMEMBER THEIR FAMILIES AND WE PRAY GOD THAT YOU WILL LEAD US A SHOULD BE LED.

AND GOD WE ASK YOU TO ALLOW YOUR HOLY SPIRIT TO PRESENT DURING THIS MEETING AND WE HAVE A REQUEST.

IF WE FIND OURSELVES WHERE THIS DEADLY DISEASE IS PRESENT, WRAP YOUR ARMS AROUND US AND PROTECT US.

A HEAL THEM.

A CONTINUE TO BLESS THIS CITY.

WE THANK YOU GOD THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD DEVASTATION THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER PLACES.

SO CONTINUE TO PROTECT US, WE PRAY.

T NAME WE PRAY AMEN.

>> AMEN.

T AUTHORITY FOR THE APPROVAL OF PLATS.

H CITY COUNCIL -- >> APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING BUT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND ANNOUNCE THAT NUMBER ON THE MEETING, SINCE IT'S A CHANGE.

IF YOU WILL GIVE THAT NUMBER FOR LISTENERS TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU.

THE LISTENING LINE IS NOT AVAILABLE.

S AND TO PARTICIPATE THE AND LISTEN IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IS 877-853-5257.

A 877-853-5257.

WITH A MEETING I.D.

NUMBER OF THE 51383 -- 83 -- AGAIN THAT MEETING I.D.

IS 5138730228.

THAT IS BOTH THE NUMBER FOR LISTENING AND FOR IS PARTICIPATION.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS THE FIN AUTHORITY FOR THE APPROVAL OF PLATS, HOWEVER IT ACTS ONLY AS A RECOMMENDING BOARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS OF ZONING.

THE DECISIONS ARE THIS BOARD MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE CITY SECRETARY.

NO LATER THAN TEN DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS MEETING, AND ALL APPEALS MUST BE MADE IN WRITING.

THOSE WHO ARE PARTICIPATING ONLINE, YOU WILL NEED TO SPEAK WITH CLARITY, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE AUDIO FROM YOUR TV OR YOUR COMPUTER IS MUTED IN THE BACKGROUND.

A IS A SLIGHT DELAY ON THE AUDIO, I'LL LET EVERYONE KNOW WHEN THE HEARING AND PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTIONS ARE OPEN.

YOU WILL BE MUTED UNTIL IT'S YOUR TURN TO TALK.

YOU WILL HEAR A NOTIFICATION THAT YOU HAVE BEE WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN.

MAKE SURE TO CLEARLY STATE YOUR FULL NAME, FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

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F MINUTES.

FROM OUR PAST MEETING.

HAVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAD A CHANCE TO READ THOSE MINUTES? ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE MINUTES, OUR I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

>> SO MOVED.

>> OKAY MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[PLATS]

WE ARE READY FOR PLATS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, ZACK RAINBOW, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

T YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL REQUEST CONDITIONS, THOSE CONDITIONS BEING THE COMPLETION OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.

THE FIRST ONE IS FP 4017, CORDOVA PLACE SECTION 2.

THEIR FINAL PLATTING 17 RESIDENTIAL JENNINGS DRIVE.

T A GREATER ABILENE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

T BUSINESS PARK.

T REPLATING THE SOUTHERN PHASE OF THE SECTION, THIS IS IN THE ETJ.

THIS ONE AS WELL IS IN THE ETJ.

IT IS FP 1720 HIGHLAND FARMS. NEXT PHASE OF THIS SUBDIVISION.

S THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT 1820, LOOP 322 DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE PLATTING THE NORTHERN EXTENSION OF LOOP 322 NORTH OF I-20 AND TH -- I'M SORRY, FOUR COMMERCIAL LOTS THERE EITHER TO THE EAST AND WEST.

AND WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, IS ZACK.

>> SURE.

> INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, IS THAT NOT PART OF 75 POINTS OR IS THAT -- WHAT'S THE -- I KNOW ZOLTEK GOT IN BEFORE FIVE POINTS WAS ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED.

>> IT'S ADJACENT TO FIVE POINTS.

DCOA OWNS ALL THE PROPERTIES BUT IT IS THE -- >> IT IS GREATER ABILENE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT?

>> CORRECT, CORRECT.

>> ON DOWN, ON THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT ON LOOP 322, IT SAYS ON THERE THAT THERE'S A COLLECTIVE, PROPOSED COLLECTOR AND IT SAYS A CIRCLE TURN AROUND AT THE END.

YOU KNOW NORMALLY WHEN WE DEVELOP PROPERTY ON EITHER SIDE OF SOMETHING WE DEVELOP HALF OF THE ROAD.

A PLAT BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH DOWN THE ROAD REALLY.

> RIGHT-OF-WAY.

IN THIS CASE IT'S 300.

IT'S FINANCIALLY NOT FEASIBLE FOR MOST PEOPL DEDICATE THE LAND AND BUILD A FULL EXPRESSWAY.

SO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CALLS FOR THE BUILDING OF COLLECTOR, AN ENTIRE COLLECTOR ROAD AS OPPOSED TO CONSTRUCTING ALL EXPRESSWAY.

>> OKAY, WILL THEY CURB AND GUTTER OR WILL IT JUST BE SURFACED?

>> I'M NOT SURE.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN DONE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

>> SURE.

> ENGINEER AT THE TIME OF THE FINAL PLAT.

>> OKAY.

> DEDICATION.

> WATER LINE AND FIRE HYDRANT AS ON THERE.

TO ME THAT'S UNUSUAL.

IS THAT JUST IS SHOWN ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT?

>> THE UTILITY LINES HAVE BEEN SHOWN ON THE PLAT SO WATER SERVICES ASKS THAT THAT BE SHOWN ON THE PRELIMINARY PLATS.

>> OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? P UP.

>> JUST A SECOND AS I UNMUTE PEOPLE.

> WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

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>> NONE.

> HEARING.

>> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

> PLATS AND A SECOND.

>> MR. BARNETT.

>> YES.

>> MS. RUSSELL.

>> YES.

>> IS MR. BENHAM LISTENING?

>> YES.

>> AND IS YOUR VOTE YES?

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU.

MR. ROSENBAUM?

>> YES.

>> IS MR. NOONAN LISTENING? OKAY THANK YOU.

AND REVEREND LANGFORD.

>> YES.

>> MR. FAMBLE.

>> YES.

> CARRIES.

> Z 2020-01.

[7. Z-2020-01: Public hearing and possible vote to recommend approval or denial to City Council on a request from Prairie Song LLC, agent Nick Coates, to amend the terms of Planned Development (PD) District Number 144 by expanding its original 14.166 acres to include 0.5 acre of additional now-vacant land at 2660 Garfield Avenue, by changing allowed uses to include all those permissible within Residential Medium-Density (MD) zoning districts and by requiring all access to future development of this property to be from Garfield Avenue; Legal description being 12.004 acres out of T&P Railway Co. Section 84 (and located at least 140 feet north of Garfield Avenue) as well as Lots 4-5 in Block 10 and all of Block II in the Hillcrest Addition (on north side of 2600 block of Garfield Avenue)]

P VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OTO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A REQUEST FROM PRAIRIE SONG LLC, AGENT NICK COATES TO AMEND THE TERMS OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD DISTRICT NUMBER 144 BY EXPANDING ITS ORIGINAL 14.166 ACRES TO INCLUDE 0.5 ACRE OF ADDITIONAL NOW VACANT LAND AT 2660 GARFIELD AVENUE BY CHANGING ALLOWED USES TO INCLUDE ALL THOSE PERMISSIBLE WITHIN RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY MD ZONING DISTRICTS AND BY REQUIRING ALL ACCESS TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY TO BE FROM GARFIELD AVENUE.

LEGAL DESCRIPTION BEING 12.004 ACRES, OUT O RAILWAY COMPANY SECTION 84 AND LOCATED AT LEAST 140 FEET NORTH OF GAR AVENUE AS WELL AS LOTS 4 THROUGH FIVE IN BLOCK 10 AND ALL OF BLOCK 11 IN THE HILLCREST ADDITION ON NORTH SIDE OF 2600 BLOCK OF GARFIELD AVENUE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHERYL SAWYERS PLANNING SERVICES MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF ABILENE.

BEFORE YOU TODAY IS PLANNING CASE 2020-1.

FUNDAMENTALLY THIS REQUEST IS SUBSTANTIALLY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF ARE PLANNED DISTRICT 144 OR PD 144.

PD 144 ENCOMPASSES MORE THAN 40 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED NORTH OF HILLCREST NEIGHBORHOOD AND NORTH ABILENE UNIVERSITY.

14 ACRES OF LAND THAT IS STRIPED IN YELLOW.

A BOUNDARY OF PD 144 OSTOPS ABOUT 300 FEET SHORT OF EAST STANFORD STREET IS EASTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD FOR INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 20.

ANOTHER STANDOUT FEATURE OF THIS PHOTO IS THE COMPLEX OF MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS LOCATED DIRECTLY EAST OF 144.

T UNDER CONSTRUCTION DIRECTLY WEST OF PD 144, BUT SINCE THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN THE RV PARK HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND IS USUALLY QUITE FULL.

S CONVENTIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES EXTENDING ALL THE WAY DOWN AMBLER AVENUE.

THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION ON THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING PD 144 AGAIN HIGHLIGHTED BY THE STRIPED AREA IN THE CENTER OF THIS SLIDE.

THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT COLORS, 300 FOOT STRIP WIDE VACANT LAND WEDGED BETWEEN THE VACANT PROPERTY AND THE IN HIGHWAY 20.

RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT COVERS THE DISTRICT EAST OF 144.

VARYING TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL SINGLE SYSTEM ZONING COVERS THE HILLCREST AREA TO THE SOUTH AND ANOTHER PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TAILOR MADE FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK.

THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT LIKE PD 144 IS A CUSTOM MADE ZONING CLASSIFICATION TAILORED TO MEET THE UNIQUE DEMANDS THE PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AND ITS SPECIFIC ENVIRONMENT.

T 1:44 WAS APPROVED IN THE 2014 AND PRESCRIBES THAT AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY FOR SENIOR CIT THE NORTHERN FIVE ACRES

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WHILE THE SOUTHERN ACRES CLOSEST TO THAT GARFIELD AVENUE IS RESERVED FOR CONVENTIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES LIKE THAT FOUND IN HILLCREST NEIGHBORHOOD.

ONE VERY UNIQUE FEATURE OF PD 144 IS A PROVISION PROHIBITING ANY STREET CONNECTION BETWEEN HOUSING ON THE NORTHERN FIVE ACRES AND SINGLE SYSTEM HOME DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTHERN NINE ACRES.

I TOUCHING ANYTHING.

THE RESIDENTS WILL -- IT IS EFFECTIVELY PROHIB ALREADY DEDICATED BUN UNIMPROVED RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM CAMPUS COURT F BECOMING A DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 20 AND AMBLER AVENUE THROUGH HILLCREST NEIGHBORHOOD.

ON THIS MAP MERE IT LOOKS LIKE CAMPUS COURT GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO I-20 AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY PROHIBITING THAT, IN THE FUTURE.

T ANTICIPATED BY THE PRESENT PD NEVER MATERIALIZED IN ALL OF PITS ACREAGE REMAINS VACANT.

THE OWNER OF THIS 14 PLUS ACRES IN PD 144 NOW TO AMEND ITS TERMS AND CONDITIONS NUMBER 1 INCLUDING AN ADDITIONAL HALF ACRE OF VACANT LAND, AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE ORIGINAL ACREAGE EMBRACED WITH PD 144.

THIS ADDITIONAL HALF ACRE IS SHOWN IN THE PALE YELLOW SQUARE, WITH THE DIAGONAL STRIPING ON THE MAP.

R USE LIMITATIONS OF.

144 AND REPLACING THEM WITH A PROVISION ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY ZONING TO GENERALLY GOVERN USE AND DEVELOPME ACREAGE IN PD 144.

A DEVELOPMENT TO BE FROM GARFIELD AVENUE ONLY.

FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, THE MEDIUM DENSITY OR MEDIUM DENSITY MD CLASSIFICATION OCCUPIES THE MIDDLE RANGE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL SINGLE SYSTEM AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ZONING.

THE RS 6 ZONING TYPICALLY TOPS OUT AT ABOUT SEVEN RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER ACRE WHILE THE MD IS LIMITED TO 12 UNITS PER ACRE.

OFTEN TAKES THE FORM OF TWO, THREE AND FOUR-FAMILY UNITS.

THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY DISTRICTS BY CONTRAST ARE LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN 24 RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER ACRE.

SO THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING WITH THE MD ZONING MAY BE WELL SUITED FOR THIS SITUATION IN WHICH ITS S PROPERTY IS FOUND AND CITY STAFF IS GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

T INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 20 FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS CHARACTERISTIC OF THE HILLCREST NEIGHBORHOOD APPLIES MEDIUM DENSITY OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE AND USEFUL TRA OVERALL INTENSITY OF USE.

THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH ESTABLISHED CITY PL PRINCIPLES.

T HAS 650 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON GARFIELD AVENUE AND FULLY IMPROVED SUBCOLLECTOR STREET.

THE TRAFFIC ACCESS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON T SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PROPOSED TO BE FROM GARFIELD AVENUE ONLY.

ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FLOW PLAY BE EXPECTED ON GAR AVENUE AND ON CAMPUS COURT, ANOTHER NEARBY SUBCOLLECTOR STREET REACHING DO AMBLER AVENUE.

HOWEVER, THIS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FLOW IS EXPECT BE SPLIT MORE OR LESS EVENLY BETWEEN THE GARFIELD AVENUE AND CAMPUS COURT AN NEITHER IS EXPECTED TO BEAR ANY EXTRAORDINARY BURDEN IN TRAFFIC FLOW.

IS THIS IS A PICTURE OF WHAT THE HOMES ARE PROPOSED TO LOOK LIKE ON THE PROPERTY.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE GRAPHIC CONCEPT PLAN PROVIDED THE PROPONENT AND SHOWING HIS PLANNED LAYOUTS OF LOTS, BLOCKS, STREETS ALLEYS ON THE 14-PLUS ACRES COMPROMISING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

P PROPOSED NEW LOTS WILL FRONT ONTO THE SINGLE U SHAPED STREET WITH ONLY TO GARFIELD AVENUE.

25 OWNERS OF THE NEARBY PROPERTIES WERE FORMALLY NOTIFIED OF THIS ZONE CHANGE

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REQUEST.

T SORRY, FOUR NOW.

W AFTERNOON.

RESPONDED WITH WRITTEN COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION TO THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.

A PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 144 ARE GENERALLY RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

BUT HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.

S UNITS SHOWN SHOULD BE PERMITTED ON ANY ONE LOT OR TRACT OF LAND.

FUTURE RESUBDIVISION OF THE SUBJECT PROPER COMPLY WITH ACCOMPANYING GRAPHIC CONCEPT PLAN AND THE FUTURE SUBDIVIS RESUBDIVISION OF ALL OR ANY PART OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SHOULD BE PRECEDED BY CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF ANY ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN ABA OF ALL RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATED FOR CAMPUS COURT NORTH.

G COMPLETE BY THE APPROVAL AND FILING OF A PLAT OR SUBJECT PLAT, PROPERTY LOCATED ADJACENT DIRECTORY EAST AND/OR OF THE ABANDONED RIGHT-OF-WAY.

W CONDITIONS, STAFF DEFINITELY RECOMMENDS APPROVING THE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS TO THE PLANNED DISTRICT 144 AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

>> CHERYL, DIDN'T WE -- GO BACK TO THE ONE WE HAD THE CROSSHATCH, YES, THAT ONE.

DOWN HERE, WAS IT DOWN TO THE RIGHT HERE, THE WIDER PORTION, NEXT TO THE CROSSHATCH THERE, DIDN'T WE ABANDON THAT ALREADY? DIDN'T CITY COUNCIL ABANDON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? SO THAT CAMPUS COURT COULDN'T GO THROUGH? > BEEN ABANDONED.

>> OR CAMPUS COURT.

>> YES, I'M SORRY CAMPUS COURT.

>> THERE HAS BEEN A PIECE OF CAMPUS COURT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ABANDONED SO CAMPUS COURT CAN'T GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

>> CORRECT.

>> AS I RECALL, CAMPUS COURT WAS WITH DESIGNATED A COLLECTOR AND WE HAD DOWN GRADED TO A SUBCOLLECTOR OR A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

> REMEMBER THE NEIGHBORS, OR THEY WERE WORRIED TRAFFIC, AND GOING ALL THROUGH? > WIDE ENOUGH REALLY TO BE A COLLECTOR.

>> OKAY.

>> CORRECT.

> GRADED IT.

B DOWN GRADED IT FROM AND TO.

>> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THAT IS.

>> YOU SAID SUBCOLLECTOR.

>> IT IS.

> COLLECTOR AND SUBCOLLECTOR.

>> ON OUR MAPS RIGHT NOW WE ARE SHOWING IT A SUBCOLLECTOR.

>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?

>> THE DENSITY OF WHAT IT CAN HOLD AND ALSO THEIR SET BACKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT THERE IS NO LONGER A STRE THERE AND IN ORDER FOR --

>> NO I'M TALKING ABOUT CAMPUS COURT FROM GARFIELD TO AMBLER.

>> NO, THERE IS NOTHING THERE THAT H ABANDONED.

>> NO, IT WAS DOWN GRADED.

I THOUGHT THAT STREET WAS ORIGINALLY A COLLECTOR AND WE DOWN GRADED IT TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN A COLLECTOR, BECAUSE IT WASN'T WIDE ENOUGH TO BE A COLLECTOR.

I TO BE A COLLECTOR I THINK.

>> ON ALL OF OUR MAPS RIGHT NOW WE ARE SHOWING T IS A SUBCOLLECTOR STREET.

BUT I CAN GO BACK AND REVIEW AND MAKE SURE THAT T -- THAT IT WAS DOWN GRADED TO SUBCOLLECTOR AND NOT JUST A COLLECTOR STREET.

>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO?

>> THE DIFFERENCE IS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT IS EXPECTED ON THAT STREET AND THE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT CARS C TRAVERSE THAT AREA.

SO WITH A SUBCOLLECTOR STREET WE'RE EXPECTI TO BE A LITTLE MORE DENSE THAN IF IT COLLECTOR, WHERE LET'S SAY A COLLECTOR IS ONE OF THE STREETS THAT YOU KIND OF SEE THE STREET THAT IS JUST UNDERNEATH GARFIELD STREET.

SO THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE MORE OF A COLLECTOR STREET.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE ON THAT STREET ARE THE RESIDENTS NORMALLY AND THEIR GUESTS.

WHEREAS A SUBCOLLECTOR STREET WOULD BE I THAT STREET TO GET TO ANY NUMBER OF AREAS IN NEIGHBORHOOD.

A COLLECTOR IS THE SMALLER OF THE TWO AND THE SUC COLLECTOR ALLOWS MORE MOVEMENT THROUGHOUT SUBDIVISION.

>> THANK YOU.

> SORRY, GO AHEAD.

>> I WAS THIS IN LINE.

I JUST WANT TO HEAR THE OPPOSED COMMENTS.

>> OH THE OPPOSED COMMENTS.

MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAD -- WERE IN OPPOSITION DID NOT SAY EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE IN OPPOSITION OF.

AND THEN, THE OTHER ONES THAT WERE -- THAT WEAR OPPOSED THAT WROTE IN E-MAILS HAD SPECIFIC COMPLAINTS WHERE THE I-20, BEING ABLE TO GET TO I-20

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FROM THE NAKED.

T WASN'T ONE OF THE -- IT WASN'T ONE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREAS BUT ANOTHER COMMENT THAT WAS MADE WAS THAT THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE TRA THAT MIGHT BE INCREASED ON GARFIELD.

>> SO THIS IS -- AND THIS IS ABOUT THE FOURTH TIME TH CASE HAS COME UP TO US.

>> CORRECT.

>> AND IT'S BEEN AMENDED AT LEAST TWICE SINCE IT CAME UP ORIGINALLY.

>> YES.

> CLOSED OR ABANDONED PART OF CAMPUS COURT WAS TO PREVENT TRAFFIC FROM GOI WAY THROUGH AND UP AND DOWN CAMPUS COURT OUT TO THE FREEWAY AND BACK AND FORTH.

AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THE PD REQUIRED THAT THE MULTIFAMILY GO OUT TO THE NORTH TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD, NOT GO SOUTH TO GARFIEL AND CAMPUS COURT AND BACK THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

>> CORRECT.

>> THAT WAS A MAJOR CONCERN, I REMEMBER THAT.

>> YES.

> CONSTITUENTS THAT WERE BEFORE US AT THE TIME, WANTING THAT TRAFFIC TO COME I GUESS SOUTH LOOKING AT THE MAP.

BUT FORCE OIT NORTH.

>> WE BUT STUFF IN THE PD ABOUT EMERGENCY ACCESS THE SOUTH BUT WE DIDN'T ALLOW TRAFFIC TO EXIT THE MULTIFAMILY AREA TO THE SOUTH AND ON TO GARFIELD AND CAMPUS COURT.

IF I'M RECALLING PROPERLY, THAT'S WHY THE RS 6, IT STAYED RS 6 ALONG GARFIELD THEN THE MULTIFAMILY WAS THE BLOCK TO THE NORTH THERE.

>> CORRECT.

S SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING FROM WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 24 UNITS PER ACRE DOWN TO TWO.

>> LET ME GET TO WHERE I'M GOING OKAY?

>> I'M SORRY.

>> WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD BEFORE IS MAYBE SIX OR SEVEN RS 6 LOTS FRONTING GARFIELD.

AND WE HAD THE MULTIFAMILY GOING TO THE NORTH.

NOW THE WAY I SEE IT, WE'VE GOT 36 LOTS TIMES 2, WE'VE GOT 72 POTENTIAL EXITS BACK TO GARFIELD.

N WE'RE PUSHING THE TRAFFIC THAT -- FROM THE MULTIFAMILY ESSENTIALLY THAT WE HAD BEFORE NOW WE'RE PUSHING THAT TRAFFIC BACK.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWING TRAFFIC TO COME FROM STANFORD TO THE SOUTH BUT WE HAVE NOW BEGUN TAKEN 72 DWELLING UNITS LOOKS TO ME VER SIX OR SEVEN AND PUSHING THEM BACK TO GARFIELD CAMPUS COURT WITH NO WAY OUT TO GET TO THE NORTH.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS KEEPS COMING AROUND AND COMIN AROUND AND COMING AROUND.

AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE CAN WAIT AND HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE PHONE HERE, BUT TO ME, THIS DOESN'T CHANGE.

IT'S AGAIN TRYING TO PUSH TRAFFIC BACK DOWN TO CAMPUS COURT, AND GARFIELD, THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO PREVENT.

>> WHICH THE NEIGHBORS AT THE TIME, I REMEMB VERY CLEARLY, WHICH THE NEIGHBORS AT THE TIME, THAT WAS THEIR -- THAT WAS THEIR MAJOR OBJECTION.

THEY WEREN'T OPPOSED AS I REMEMBER TO DEVELOPMENT.

THEY WEREN'T -- WAS THE TRAFFIC.

>> WELL THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT BUT THEY KNEW THEY COULDN'T PREVENT IT.

T PREVENT IT.

> TIME.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION AND I GUESS I'LL OPEN IT LATER BUT IS THIS GOING TO BE LESS TRAFFIC PUSHED SOUTH? IS THIS GOING TO BE MORE? I GUESS I WANT TO HEAR KIND OF WHAT STAFF' UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.

> TRAFFIC ON GARFIELD.

A MULTIFAMILY UNIT AND THEN ALSO AN RV PARK AND BACKING UP AGAINST I-20, THIS ONE OF THE BEST USES THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH FOR DEVELOPING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND ALLOWING FOR MORE HOMES TO GO IN WITHOUT IT BEING THAT MULTIFAMILY IN CHARACTER.

>> THANK YOU.

DESTINY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR A MOMENT.

W BEING KIND OF REVERSED AND IT ONLY INGRESS AND EGRESS BEING FROM THE I CORRIDOR VERSUS BEING ONTO BASICALLY FUNNELING ONTO RELATIVELY THIN RESIDENTIAL ROADS THAT ARE STALLED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? > STAFF AS I GUESS ONE OF THE OPTIONS.

TO THE NORTH THERE IS A BUSINESS THERE.

A ONLY GO CAMPUS COURT NORTH TO STANFORD.

A METROPOLITAN FOR THAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC AT THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUS CLOSURE TO T ROAD TO THE NORTH.

>> OKAY.

> THE 30072ND BETWEEN STANFORD AND THIS EITHER.

>> OKAY.

> OF PROPERTY.

> CONCERNS.

Y CAMPUS COURT ARE RESIDENTIAL ROADS IN THIS SECTION.

AND THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE CITIZENS THERE WORRIED ABOUT 72 COLLEGES KIDS, OR MORE, IN THESE DUPLEXES AND HAVING T ROADS, (INAUDIBLE) SO THE TRAFFIC CONCERN I CAN UNDERSTAND IF IT WAS REVERSED OR SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER AVENUE THAT DOESN'T CONNECT I-20 TO THESE RESIDENTIAL ROADS BUT POTENTIALLY CONNECT CAN TO THESE SUBDIVISIONS.

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THIS IS JUST AN IDEA.

POTENTIALLY, WHAT Y'ALL WERE SAYING LAST TIM CITIZENS WERE NOT NECESSARILY HAPPY ABOUT THERE BEING A SUBDIVISION GOING IN BUT THEIR CONCERN WAS IF TRAFFIC, PRIMARILY.

>> AND THE ROADS ARE MEANT TO CARRY THIS TYPE O TRAFFIC.

DID THAT ADDS TO -- >> UNDERSTOOD.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

A HEARING, ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEM OR ITEM, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> AND THEY WILL HEAR AN UNMUTED.

> SOMETHING THEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> HELLO.

>> HELLO SIR.

>> EDWARD WALKER I LIVE AT 2665 GARFIELD.

>> THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD.

>> GO AHEAD SIR.

>> LOOKING AT THIS MAP, AND I SEE THE ENTRANCE AND EXITS TO THIS CAN COMPLEX OFF OF GARFIELD, I KNOW THAT Y'ALL REALIZE IT WANT TO MENTION IT ANYWAY.

T MADISON AND LINCOLN, ALL ARE TRAVEL INTO GARFIELD.

EVERY PLACE THAT YOU COME INTO THIS NEIGHBORHO FUNNELS INTO GARFIELD.

S COMPLEX AREA WILL HAVE TO DRIVE, WHICHEVER THEY COME IN ON, THEY'LL END UP ON GARFIELD.

SO GOING AND COMING, ALL THESE PEOPLE WILL BE CO ON GARFIELD.

A PARKED ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET IT IS STREET WIDE ENOUGH TO HANDLE THAT MUCH TRAFFIC.

>> OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

>> CAN MY WIFE SPEAK?

>> SURE, GO AHEAD.

>> HI, I'M TAMMY WALKER.

AND I JUST WANT TO ECHO MY HUSBAND'S CONCERNS.

THIS WOULD BE A (INAUDIBLE) THE STREETS AREN'T TH WIDE WITH CARS PARKED ON EITHER SIDE.

MOST PEOPLE HAVE MORE THAN ONE VEHICLE AND WHEN YOU HAVE COMPANY OVER, I KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING ON THAT MAP TOO MUCH, I'M CO ABOUT EXTRA TRAFFIC ON OUR DISCREET AND HOW OUR STREET COULD POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT MUCH MORE TRAFFIC.

IT'S A VERY QUIET, PEACEFUL NAKED AND WE WANT TO SEE THAT CHANGE.

A EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS AND ASK YOU TO STAY THAT INTO CONSIDERATION PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> ANYONE ELSE ONLINE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> YES, MY NAME IS JED WHITE.

AND MY WIFE AND I LIVE AT 2521 JOHN C.

STEPHENS.

T NOTIFICATION ZONE.

I PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THIS LAND IN QUESTION.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSAL BY THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS THE MOST

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COMPATIBLE TO DATE.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS IN THE PAST.

HOWEVER, I DO SHARE THAT, ALTHOUGH I FEEL PROJECT IS COMPATIBLE, PROJECT WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD I DO SHARE IN MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN THE INCREASED TRAFFIC TO THE SOUTH.

I WOULD REQUEST THAT MORE CONSIDERATION BE TO ACCESS TO THE NORTH.

H PROPOSAL IS MOST COMPATIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT AGAINST ANY DEVELOPMENT.

THEY WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH AS MINIMAL TRAFFIC AS POSSIBLE.

A COMMITTEE CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THERE IS CONNECTIVITY FROM THE ACCESS ROAD TO GARFIELD AND CAMPUS COURT WHETHER INTENDED OR UNINTENDED AND THAT PROPER CONSIDERATION CONTINUE TO BE GIVEN FOR TRAFFIC.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU SIR.

ANYONE ELSE ONLINE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?

>> JUST A SECOND, SORRY.

>> YES, SIR, MY NAME IS PHILLIP GERGINS, I LI 2634 GARFIELD.

>> GO AHEAD SIR.

>> I'VE LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR O26 YEARS AND WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF HOUSES SELL THROUGH THE RENTALS FOR THE ACU AND THE PARK AREA, T CONGESTION ON EITHER SIDE OF GARFIELD CAMPUS COURT HAS DEVELOPED GREATERLY OVER THE PAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS AND EVEN THOUGH THIS SUBSTREET IS RATED TO HANDLE TRAFFIC I DON'T THINK IT'S MADE TO HANDLE THAT MUCH FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LIKE COUNCILMAN ROSENBLOO UNLESS THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS COME ON TO THE GARFIELD AREA.

WE'VE HAD A REALLY WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A NUM OF YEARS.

A GOT ABOUT TO HAVE OUR 10TH GRANDCHILD.

AND THE CONGESTION ON THE STREET, THE MAKES IT VERY SCARY FOR HAVING GRAND KIDS IN THIS AREA.

THE WAY I UNDERSTAND, THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR SOMETHING AND WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO HAVING THEM USE THE PROPERTY, WE'RE JUST TRYING TOO KEEP THEM FROM INTRUDING ON OUR PRIVACY THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THIS MANY YEARS.

A OUR DRIVEWAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE ONLINE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?

>> YES, MY NAME IS CHRIS BRANDON.

I YEARS.

EITHER AS MY -- AS A CHILD OR NOW, AS A RESIDENT PURCHASING FROM MY FATHER.

AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS REALLY GREAT WITH HOW QUIET IT IS.

I LIVE NEXT TO SOME COLLEGE STUDENTS, AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY GREAT.

I THINK I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE S IN REGARD TO THAT PROPERTY, AS FINE TO BE REDEVELOPED, BUT WE DEFINITELY CA HANDLE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, THE AMOUNT OF CHILDREN THAT PLAY AND RIDE BIKES THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THE PARKING THAT IS DEFINITELY DOWN GAR THERE'S PROBABLY ON JUST THE HALF OF GARFIELD THAT I LIVE, THERE IS AT LEAST 25 WITH-PLUS CARS ON THIS STREET GOING DOWN ONE WAY, IT IS DIFFICULT JUST AS IT IS.

B OUR NEIGHBORHOOD QUIET, WOULD BE GREAT.

W ALL HOURS OF THE DAY.

AS THEY DEVELOP THAT, THE -- I PERSONALLY FEEL HAV RIDDEN MY BIKE AS A KID AND NOW AS AN ADULT WITH MY KIDDOS, CRESTING GARFIE AND SEEING THAT RV PARK IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT I REMEMBER.

AND GETTING TO PLAY IN THOSE WOODS AND WHATNOT.

SO -- BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO PUSH ALL OF THAT

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TRAFFIC THROUGH THE AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU SIR.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE ONLINE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?

>> HELLO.

MY NAME IS MARY ANN MARTIN.

THANK YOU MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK.

AM I ON?

>> YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU DENY MR. COA REQUEST.

CAMPUS COURT WAS NOT DESIGNED TO BE A THOROUGHFARE AND THE LAND ACCESS TO I-20 SERVICE ROAD WOULD FURTHER CONGEST IF SOUTH PART OF CAMPUS COURT WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES ARE LOCATED.

M NEIGHBORHOOD, CAMPUS COURT AND PRAIRIE SONG SUBDIVISION THAT BEL MR. COATES WITH IN SUBDIVISION CAME A STREET CALLED JOHN C.

STEPHENS AS WELL AS JOHN C.

STEPHENS COURT WHICH LAST ALREADY ANOTHERRED TO THE TRAFFIC FLOW OF CAMPUS COURT.

TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE I-20 SERVICE ROAD, WOULD INCREASE TRAFFIC, IT WOULD INCREASE EXCESSIVE YOU SPEED, AND WHAT MR. COA DOES NOT SEE IS THAT CAMPUS COURT BREATHES LIFE INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

I SEE FROM MY AREA CAN PROFESSORS AND STUD ACU WALKING TO THE UNIVERSITY.

I SEE STUDENTS THAT GO TO SCHOOL AT ABILENE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL WALK TO SCHOOL BECAUSE CAMPUS COURT SAFE.

I NOW.

I SEE NEW FAMILIES COMING IN WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF CHILDREN WHICH IS WONDERFUL, FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHICH IS WHY THEY CHOSE TO BUILD THEIR HOMES IN THIS AREA BECAUSE IT WAS SAFE.

I SEE THEIR MOTHERS PUSHING THEIR STROLLERS DOWN CAM COURT AND CHILDREN GATHERING EXACTLY AND DIRECTLY ON CAMPUS COURT.

T PLAN GOES THROUGH.

A TIMES.

AND EACH TIME THEY'RE STRESSFUL KNOWING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN JEOPARDY.

THE LIVELIHOOD, THE REASON WHY WE LIVE HERE, MR. COATES DOESN'T LIVE HERE.

H THE WONDERFUL THINGS AND WHY WE LIVE HERE.

S DO NOT LIFT ANY RESTRICTIONS.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM.

ANYONE ELSE ONLINE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?

>> YES, THIS IS CARMEN PRICE AND I LIVE ON GARFIELD JUST OUTSIDE OF THE MODIFICATION AREA.

AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, THIS ZONE CHANGE HAS B BROUGHT BEFORE YOU MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE PAST YEARS.

A STRONG OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD REGARDING TWO ASPECTS OF THE P USE.

T MULTIFAMILY AT THE BACK OF AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NARROW STREETS, ROADS.

THE OTHER WAS PROPOSED CONNECTION F NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE I-20 ROAD.

BOTH P AND Z AND CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZED THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THIS WOULD HAVE OFTEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BECAUSE OF THAT INITIAL REQUEST WAS DENIED.

THEN A PD WAS FORMED THAT SEPARATED THE MULTIFAMILY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A FIVE ACRE BUFFER.

PROHIBITING ANY CONNECTION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE I-20 ACCESS ROAD.

P THEN APPROVED THE PLAN TO REMOVE THE POTENTIAL CONNECTION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO I-20.

STARTING THE LAST FALL, PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MET WITH MR. AND MRS. COATES TO WORK OUT A COMPROMISE AND WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS A CLOSE TO WHAT WE AGREED TO.

T NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN SUPPORT OF THE CHANGE TO MEDIUM DENSITY.

HOWEVER WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP THE PROTECTIONS IN THE CURRENT PD TO PREVENT CONNECTIONS TO THE TO THE WEST, SINCE IT ALREADY HAS CONNECTIONS TO THE ACCESS ROAD AND ALSO PREVENT CONNECTIONS TO THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH WHICH BASES THE ACCESS ROAD.

A INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE SAME PROTECTIONS AS WE DO IN LIMITING THE TRAFFIC ENTERING EXITING THE INTERSTATE.

SO WE JUST ASK THAT YOU KEEP THE REGULATIONS THAT WERE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL INTO PLACE.

THANK YOU.

> FLAMING AGAIN?

>> CARMEN PRICE.

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>> CARMEN?

>> YES.

> NORTH.

THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A CONNECTION BETWEEN GARFIELD AND CAMPUS COURT.

BUT ALL THESE DWELLINGS ARE GOING TO GO TO THE SOUTH.

WHERE BEFORE THE MULTIFAMILY WENT OUT TO THE NORTH AND ONLY THE R-6 WENT ON TO GARFIELD.

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

B AND THINK THAT THIS PLANNING IS OKAY DWELLING UNITS, EXITING ONTO GARFIELD AND CAMPUS COURT.

> 300.

>> WELL, THE 300 WERE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE NORTH.

>> RIGHT.

> COME TO THE SOUTH.

>> WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT HIS CURRENT APPLICATION, HE IS WANTING TO WITHDRAW THE RESTRICTIONS OF TAKING CAMPUS COURT TO I-20 WITH AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE KEPT SO THAT THERE'S NO CONNECTING TO THE ACCESS ROAD.

>> CAN STAFF ADDRESS THAT?

>> YES, SO HIS CURRENT APPLICATION IS BASICALLY -- SHE IS CORRECT THAT HIS CURRENT APPLICATION THAT STAFF IS RECOMM THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS HAPPENS IS THAT THERE COMPLETE ABANDONMENT OF CAMPUS COURT TO THE NORTH.

FROM GARFIELD.

>> THAT'S WHAT'S COVERED IN THE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS 3.

>> YES.

> ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT WOULD COVER WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR.

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I THOUGHT WE HAD ALREADY ABANDONED PART OF CAMPU COURT WHERE IT COULDN'T GO FURTHER TO THE NORTH ALREADY.

>> THERE IS A SECTION BUT IT GOES NOT -- IF -- STAFF WENT OUT THERE IT DOES NOT KEEP PEOPLE FROM TRAVELING EVEN CU FROM I-20 TO CAMPUS COURT.

S HE'S GOING TO -- WIDTH AND

DEPTH FOR THESE PROPERTIES, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO ABANDON AND -- >> THAT'S NOT WHAT HE'S SHOWING HIS SKETCH HERE.

>> IN ORDER FOR -- WELL, THIS WAS HIS GRAPHIC CONCEPT PLAN AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT COMPLETE ABANDONMENT AND REPLAT DONE AND ADDING INTO THOSE PROPERTIES WHAT IS -- WHAT IS CAMPUS COURT NOW.

>> OKAY.

W EITHER.

>> NO.

T AND NOT THOSE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY ON THE LITTLE BUMP-OUT IN THE PLAN.

>> OKAY.

> TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? PLEASE GO AHEAD.

> (INAUDIBLE).

>> GO AHEAD SIR.

>> YES, I LIVE AT 2669 GARFIELD AVENUE.

O OPPOSE.

M THE LAYOUTS AND THE AREA AND EVERYTHING AND THAT ENTRANCE AND EXITS IS IT APPEARS THAT THE WEST ENTRANCE AND EXIT WOULD DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF MY DRIVEWAY.

I BE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T DOESN'T HAPPEN?

>> OKAY, SO WHICH, ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE ON THE RIGHT NOW? I GUESS I WANT TO -- YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

A SCREEN RIGHT NOW SIR?

>> YES, SIR.

>> CAN YOU, THE NUMBERS AT THE BOTTOM, CAN YOU TELL ME THE NUMBER WHERE -- OF YOUR PROPERTY?

>> 2669.

>> 2669 RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

AND IT APPEARS FROM THE CONCEPT THAT THE CAN EGRESS OR THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE RIGHT AT YOUR PROPERTY, AT YOUR GARAGE?

>> RIGHT IN MY DRIVEWAY, YES, SIR.

>> UP YOUR DRIVEWAY, OKAY.

STAFF, CAN ANYBODY -- >> WELL, I THERE'S ALSO ONE -- >> IS THERE SOME WAY YOU CAN CAN BUILD THAT AROUND THAT TO GO TO WHAT LOOKS LIKE WHAT COULD BE A REDEVELOPED POINT OF CAMPUS CO THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY?

>> BECAUSE IF I'M SEEING RIGHT, JUST A SECOND SIR, WE'LL BE RIGHT WITH YOU.

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CLINT, IF I'M SEEING RIGHT IT'S GOING TO MIRROR ON TH OTHER SIDE AS WELL.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IS THAT WHAT I'M SEEING?

>> YES.

A A LOOP IN THERE WITH ONLY A SINGLE EXIT COMING OUT ON CAMPUS COURT.

>> ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT WITH NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH SAFETY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> P AND Z COULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT STREET MAY BE -- THAT FIRST LOT RIGHT THERE MAYBE IT CUTS THE FIRST LOT NOT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.

>> HIS IS THE ONE ON THE WEST.

HIS IS THE ONE ON THE LEFT.

>> ON THE LEFT SIDE.

>> RIGHT.

S TWO NUMBER 1S THERE.

S COULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THEM TO CHANGE THE DRIVE.

>> CLIFF, WOULDN'T WE HAVE TO DO THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL IF WE DID THAT ON THE ONE SIDE, WOULDN'T WE HAVE TO DO ON THE OTHER? I'M ASKING.

> PROPERTY.

>> REGARDLESS.

>> IS REGARDLESS BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY I ACROSS THE STREET.

>> I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND.

>> (INAUDIBLE) CAMPUS COURT LIKE HE'S TALKING ABOUT TO MOVE ONE, TO MOVE THE I GUESS MOVE THE ENTRANCE-EXIT OUT.

WOE HAVE TO CUT A LOT OUT SO THERE'S NOT TWO ENTRANCES AND EXITS ON GARFIELD.

>> I MEAN THERE'S PROBABLY SEVERAL THINGS THAT-DONE.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE NOT OPPOSED, THEY'RE ASKING FOR -- >> CAN IT BE DONE.

>> P AND Z CAN MAKE IT A CONDITION.

I ENGINEERING FROM THE PODIUM.

> SAY P AND Z COULD DO?

>> YOU COULD MAKE IT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO CHANGE THE DRIVEWAY TO BE NOT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF SOMEONE ELSE'S DRIVEWAY.

> WOULD LOOK AT THAT?

>> CORRECT.

>> SIR DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ONLINE?

>> NO, SIR, THAT WAS IF PRIMARY ONE, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO ENTRANCE -- EXIT IN OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S DRIVEWAY PREEXISTING DRIVEWAY.

>> THANK YOU SIR, WE GOT IT, THANK YOU SIR.

ANYONE ELSE ONLINE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?

>> WAIT ONE SECOND AND I'LL SEE.

>> MY NAME IS BRENDA (INAUDIBLE) I LI (INAUDIBLE) COURT.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONNECTION TO I-20, STRAIGHT ACCESSING ROAD.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXTRA TRAFFIC.

I 30 YEARS.

A HOME AT NIGHT, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER CAR TO GET THROUGH IN SEVERAL PLACES ON THIS STREET.

I SEE IT WOULD HAVE TWO WAY TRAFFIC ON PLACES ON STREET WHERE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR WORK VEHICLES AND COLLEGE KIDS HAVE JUST ON THE STREET, SINCE WE HAVE MORE RENTAL HOMES AND MANY OF THOSE ARE COLLEGE STUDENTS WHICH WE ENJOY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THE SPEED HAS PICKED UP AN HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.

AND I COULD IMAGINE WITH MORE TRAFFICING THAT WE WOULD HAVE MORE, PROBABLY MORE IF THE STREET WERE EXTENDED.

SO I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT, NOT CONNECTING THE STANFORD STREET IS OR THE INTERSTATE, THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE TRAFFIC NOT BEING INCREASED, IF IT CHANGES THE EFFECT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS IT IS NOW.

> MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE CARE TOO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?

>> YES, SIR.

>> GO AHEAD SIR.

>> YES, SIR.

>> GO AHEAD SIR.

>> MY NAME IS RUSTY, THE GUY WHO LIVES ACROSS THE STR AT AN CAN CAN ANGLE.

2654 GARFIELD AVENUE, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS PROPERTY.

I ALREADY HAVE THE RV PARK DIRECTLY IN MY BACKYARD.

I HAVE TO KEEP MY BLINDS CLOSED ON MY WINDOW THEY DON'T SEE WHAT I'M HAVING FOR SUPPER.

NOW THEY WANT TO PUT A PAIR OF HOUSES THERE.

AND PLUS NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THAT STREE NEXT TO MY HOUSE, YOU KNOW

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THIS -- WE BOUGHT THIS LOUSE BECAUSE IT WAS OQUI NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE KIND OF AWAY FROM THINGS.

AND NOW IT'S STARTING TO CLOSE IN BEGIN.

A OPPOSED TO THIS.

Y GRAND IDEA THAT HE'S GOING TO DO THIS AND DO THAT AND IT NEVER MATERIALIZES, YOU KNOW.

THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

>> THANK YOU SIR.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

BYE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?

>> WELL, IF THERE'S NOT ANYONE ELSE I DO, BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING I WOULD LIKE -- RIGHT, GO AHEAD CLIFF.

>> WELL IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE PLEASE SPEAK UP AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

I MUTED EVERYONE.

>> THIS ISMEN, I'M ONLINE.

>> CARMEN, IT'S DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU.

T YOU'RE THE ONLY PEOPLE PERSON THAT SAID YOU MET WITH MR. COATES AND YOU ALL AGREED THAT THIS IS OKAY.

SO I'M WONDERING WHAT GROUP IF WE WERE HAVING A MEETING AND EVERYBODY COULD RAISE THEIR HAND WE COULD SEE IT.

BUT I'M CONFUSED ABOUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU 9 OUT OF 10 PEOPLE, BASICALLY DON'T LIKE THIS AND WE'RE SPEAKING WITH THE RESID OF THE AREA AND SAYS WE HAVE MET WITH MR. COATES WHO SAYS IT'S OKAY.

I'M CONFUSED BY THAT.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHO MET WITH HIM AND -- >> I'LL BEST.

WE MET IN SEPTEMBER WITH MARILYN COATES AND CAME U WITH THIS PLAN AND IT WAS A DIFFERENT PLAN THAN Y'ALL WAS COMING UP WITH NOW.

> ASSOCIATION? > OPTION.

AND THEN JUST EARLIER THIS YEAR THEY PRESENTED US -- ACTUALLY NICK DELIVERED THAT LAYOUT TO JED AND I.

A MEETING.

A RETAINED, AGREED, IF THERE WEREN'T APARTMENTS GOING IN, WE DIDN'T WANT TRAFFIC COMING DOWN I- CAMPUS COURT.

WE DO FEEL HE'S JUST CHIPPING AWAY AT US.

A UNDERSTAND THAT WE LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DON'T WANT INCREASE IN WHICH WILL INCREASE CRIME, WHICH WILL INCREASE THE LACK OF SAFETY, WITH CARS GOING UP AND DOWN OUR STREET WITH PEOPLE WALKING AND JOGGING AND THEIR BIKES.

THIS IS BASICALLY THE LESSER OF ALL EVILS THAT HE PRESENTED TO US.

A WITH DUPLEXES COMING IN.

>> WHEN YOU SAY THE NEIGHBORHOOD TALKING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER ON STEPHENS OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER ON GARFIELD?

>> HILLCREST.

THERE WERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE OVER ON HILLCRES WHO CAME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WE HAD.

NOW AT THIS POINT YOU KNOW I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHA PEOPLE YOU KNOW CHANGING THEIR MINDS.

BUT I'M JUST -- I'M JUST CONVEYING WHAT I WITNESSED AND PARTICIPATING IN AND FELT LIKE AT THE TIME THAT WAS GOING TO BE OKA THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

DOES THAT HELP?

>> YES, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MAX.

>> I'D LIKE TO SAY CARMEN THANK YOU.

I NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE REALITY IS THAT THIS LAND WAS PROBABLY BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT.

G MUCH MORE LAND, AND THANK YOU FOR ORGANIZING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRYING TO GET A CONSENSUS.

YOUR COMMENTS BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

>> THANK YOU.

I'VE TRIED.

A LISTENING BUT WE ARE TRYING TO COME TO A COMPROMISE.

THIS IS YEAR SEVEN.

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AND I KNOW HE IS WANTING TO DEVELOP IT AND WE -- WE JUST WANT THE CONSIDERATIONS AND THE INPUT OF THE NE TO BE CONSIDERED.

>> YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM MA'AM.

>> THIS IS JUD WHITE.

>> I'M SORRY, SAY AGAIN SIR?

>> SORRY SIR.

>> SORRY SIR, GO AHEAD.

SIR, GO AHEAD.

>> CHUCK WHITE TO SPEAK.

>> GO AHEAD SIR.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE WENT.

I'M GOING TO UNMUTE THEM ALL.

>> WE HAVE DONE THE VERY BEST JOB POS COMMUNICATING TO THE HIMCREST AND GARFIELD NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET INPUT, TO COMMUNICATE, TO EDUCATE THE VARIOUS PROPOSALS THAT HAVE BEEN BEFORE THIS BODY AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND BEFORE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE BOTTOM LINE HERE FROM OUR CONSENSUS, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT IS 100% ACCURATE BUT OUR OPINION IS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN GENERAL COULD SUPPORT THIS.

I DON'T SPEAK FOR OUR NEIGHBORS I ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

OUR CONSENSUS IS THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS PRESENTED SO FAR BY THE OWNER OF THE PLANNED.

HOWEVER WHAT I FEEL LIKE HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED TODAY AND CONTINUES TO BE COMMUNICATED IS THE CONCERN OF TRAFFIC FLOW.

EVEN IF THE CONNECT FEE IS VOID ID, STILL I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND AND I THINK THAT IT HAS BEEN COMM THAT THERE WILL BE INCREASED TRAFFIC ON GARFIELD AND CAMPUS COURT.

SO THAT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS STILL VERY MUCH CON AND WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO ECHO MY THOUGHT, IT WOULD BE IN MY OPINION BETTER IF THERE WOULD BE NO TRAFFIC FLOWING SOUTH BUT TRAFFIC EXITING AND ENTERING TO THE NORTH.

I WANT TO CLARIFY THOSE RESPONSES AND I ALL MY NEIGHBORS AND CITIZENS EXPRESSING THEIR CONCERNS.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.

>> THANK YOU SIR.

ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM ONLINE? OKAY I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION? I'LL START BY SAYING I'M CONFUSED.

IT'S DIFFERENT.

I'VE HEARD THIS AT LEAST THREE, FOUR TIMES IT'S COME BEFORE US.

AND WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THE ISSUE AND THAT IS TRAFFIC TO THE SOUTH, ESPECIALLY GOING ON GARFIELD, DID LAST FEW COMMENTS I HEARD DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AS BIG OF AN ISSUE TO ME NOW OR TO THE NEIGHBORS NOW THAN EGRESS TO THE NORTH.

E MEAN THIS IS A GOOD PLAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY BUT I WANT TO HEAR KIND OF WHAT O COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY.

CLINT YOU'VE HEARD IT FOR AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR TIMES WITH ME.

> HEARD.

I HEARD ONE HOMEOWNER SAYING THEY WERE SPEAKING FOR SOME OTHER HOMEOWNERS AND I HEARD AT LEAST NINE OR TEN OTHER HOMEOWNERS DISAGREE WITH THAT ONE HOMEOWNER.

>> OKAY.

> STILL HAVEN'T HEARD THATS THIS -- THAT IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO DUMP MORE TRAFFIC ARE OUT ON GARFIELD.

I STILL HAVE THE SAME OPINION THAT I H WE WENT INTO THIS AND WHEN WE HAD IT LAST TIME.

T 72 DWELLING UNITS AND PUSHING THAT TRAFFIC OUT ON GARFIELD AND CAMPUS COURT.

NOW CAMPUS COURT MAY HAVE BEEN, WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED BECAUSE IT WAS GOING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD, THE IDEA WITH THE SUBDIVISION WHEN DEVELOPED, WHENEVER IT WAS DEVELOPED THAT CAMPUS COURT WAS A COLLECTOR.

BUT IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON IT AND IT VERY CONJESTED STREET AND GARFIELD ALSO.

W AND CAMPUS COURT AND THEY ARE ALREADY STREETS.

WHICH DOESN'T CHANGE MY MIND THAT THE TRAFFIC N GO TO THE NORTH.

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> ON THIS DRAWING.

> DRAWING.

AND SO WHAT WE ALSO HEARD WAS THAT WE DON'T WANT ANY CONNECTION BETWEEN CAMPUS COURT AND THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

I THOUGHT WE HAD BASICALLY ABANDONED THAT, COULDN'T HAVE A DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN CAMPUS COURT AND THE FRONTAGE R TO THE NORTH.

AND SO -- >> BUT DIDN'T I AL TO HAVE TO BE, WHAT, ABANDONED THEN REPLATED? DID I HEAR THAT? STAFF DID I HEAR, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? > A STREET THERE.

W TRAFFIC FROM DRIVING AROUND IT OR DRIVING ACROSS IT.

>> IT'S A DIFFERENT YOU STORE.

>> WALKING ON IT OR WHATEVER, IS A DIFF STORY.

BUT THE IDEA WAS WE LEFT THE NORTHERN PART OF C COURT THERE, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN A STREET, TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE TRAFFIC FROM THE MULTIFAMILY OUT TO THE NORTH.

SO YOU KNOW THIS PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED AND THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD USE OF THE PROPERTY.

N MULTIFAMILY OUT TOWARDS THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, NOT TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE SUBDIVISION.

IT OUGHT TO BE FLIPPED AND IT OUGHT TO BE OUT TOWARDS THE FRONTAL TAXING ROAD TOWARDS THE THOROUGHFARE INSTEAD OF PUTTING A MORE DENSE PROPERTY AT THE BACK OF A SUBDIVISION, IN THE FRONT WHERE IT BELONGS.

> OTHER WORDS.

> ROAD.

>> LET ME HEAR FROM A COUPLE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, ANYBODY ELSE TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE THINKING PLEASE.

NOT TO INTERRUPT YOU CLINT, I'LL BE BACK.

>> NO, NO.

> JUST SAID.

T GROUP, I BELIEVE SHE SAID THIS WAS THE BESTING IDEA THAT THEY HAD HEARD.

J OPTION OF A BUNCH OF BAD IDEAS.

I MEAN FOR ME I DRIVE THESE ROADS, I WORK OUT OF ACU, I LIVE CLOSE TO THESE ROADS AND TO PUT WHETHER IT BE COLLEGE KIDS OR WHA IS AT THE BACK OF THE SUBDIVISION RACING DOWN THESE ROADS, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE KIND OF THE FROG IN THE POND OF WATER WHERE IF YOU HAD JUST THROWN IT IN SERVE YEARS AGO WHEN THIS JUST STARTED Y'ALL WOULD HAVE SAID NO.

BUT IT'S BEEN INCHED AWAY AND NOW IT SEEMS SOME ACCEPTABLE.

A OTHER WAY, MAIN ROADS RATHER THAN THROUGH A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

>> BUT HOW DIFFICULT IS IT FOR MR. COATES ACCESS TO STANFORD, TO

ACCESS ROADS WHEN DOESN'T TONE PROPERTY -- >> WELL, THERE IS RIGHT-OF-WAY.

CAMPUS COURT, CITY OWNS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR CAMPUS COURT TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH.

>> COULD WE KEEP THE CAMPUS COURT ABOUT THE 300 YARDS THAT MR. COATES DOESN'T OWN, AND ABANDON IT SO HE COULD HAVE HIS EGRESS OF CAMPUS COURT AND THEN ABANDON IT TO THE SOUTH ALL THE WAY TO GARFIELD SO THERE IS NO DOWN THE REST OF CAMPUS COURT GARFIELD?

>> SO YOU'RE GOING TO TURN THE U TO WHERE IT EGRESSES ON CAMPUS COURT? > HOW IT IS BUT YOU OPEN AND DEVELOP CAMPUS COURT FROM THE ACCESS ROAD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE, DO YOUR TWO EGRESSES AND ABANDON CAMPUS COURT FROM THE SOUTH DOWN TO GARFIELD.

>> FORCING THEM TO GO NORTH.

>> YES, SIR.

>> OH.

> THERE.

THAT THE WIDER PIECE OF CAMPUS COURT THERE IS IS, I THINK, IS THE PIECE THAT WE ABANDONED THREE YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO, WHENEV WAS.

WE ABANDONED THAT SECTION OF CAMPUS COURT.

>> WHERE IT'S NOW?

>> WHERE YOU COULDN'T TAKE CAMPUS COURT ANY F NORTH THAN GARFIELD.

> ABANDONED ESSENTIALLY UP NO.

ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF HIS PROPERTY.

SO THAT HE COULD DEVELOP IT FROM THE MIDDLE TO NORTH FOR ENTRANCE HE AND EXITS.

>> WOULD THAT STOP? I GUESS I'M ASKING WHAT WOULD STOP ME IF I'M DRIVING ON THAT TO COME SOUTH IF I'M ON CAMPUS COURT? > THERE WITH A HOUSE SITTING

ON THERE -- >> THA DO IT.

OKAY.

> EXTEND THE STREET.

NOW IF THERE IS A DIRT ROAD THERE WOULD YOU BE TAKING THE DIRT ROAD?

>> THAT'S MY QUESTION.

>> YOU KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF STREETS THAT E ROADS NOW AND WE HAVE

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BARRICADES AT THE END OF THEM.

>> THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SOLUTION IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO EXIT FR THAT TO CAMPUS COURT.

>> YOU'RE SAYING FLIP THE U WELL TURN TO ITS SIDE AND COME OUT ON CAMPUS COURT, MAKE SURE THAT CAMPUS COURT IS NOT THE GARFIELD, IS NONPASSABLE, NOT A WORD, MAKE SURE YOU CAN'T GO THAT WAY, FORCING IT TO GO NORTH?

>> YES.

B SHOWN IN WHAT THESE ALL LOOK LIKE, THEY ARE VERY MUCH MEANT FOR COLLEGE KIDS.

>> CORRECT.

>> SO I MEAN, YES, THEY ARE MEANT FOR COLLEGE, CAN LET'S MAKE THEM -- >> I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE PROPONENT IS NOW ON THE LINE.

>> OKAY, DO I NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IMPACT, DON'T I? LET ME GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. COATES ARE YOU ONLINE SIR? MR. COATS ARE YOU ONLINE SIR? MAYBE NOT.

I PUBLIC HEARING.

CONTINUE YOUR THOUGHT, ALEX, SOMEBODY.

> OF MY THOUGHT.

I MR. COATES BACK ON THE LINE BECAUSE I'M WORRIED HE HAS A REASON WHY THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO ENTER AND EXIT ON CAMPUS COURT.

>> CLINT.

> OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE ARE DESIGNERS HERE TO BE ABLE TO MR. COATES.

WE HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE US.

WE COULD TABLE THAT QUESTION IF MR. COATES LIKES.

BUT RIGHT NOW DO WE APPROVE OR DENY THE CURRENT QUESTION WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA HERE.

>> YES.

> EARLIER.

E WILL BE DEVELOPED.

AND THE QUESTION IS: AT A LATER DATE, IF HE SAYS TO SOMEONE, I'M OUT OF TOWN, COME IN AND WE HAVE DESIRE WHATSOEVER, NO CONCERN WITH THE PRESENT WILLINGNESS THERE.

S THAT WE APPROVE THIS WITH PLANNING SAID WHAT THEY HAVE.

BECAUSE EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

S WAS THE LAST TIME.

>> NO, THIS IS MUCH WORSE THAN IT WAS LAST TIME.

>> OKAY, TO ME IT'S BETTER.

>> NO BEFORE WE ONLY HAD FIVE OR SIX DWELLING UNITS DUMPING OUT ON GARFIELD.

NOW WE'VE GOT 72 COMING OUT ON GARFIELD.

> GARFIELD IT STILL ALLOWED

CAMPUS COURT FROM COMING OUT ONTO -- >> COURT WAS ABANDONED.

IT STOPS AT GARFIELD.

>> DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY HE DOE UP FRONT? > OWNS.

THERE WAS ALREADY A RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR COURT TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

HE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD THAT SECTION OF ROAD FROM STANFORD DOWN TO HIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IN RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR CAMPUS COURT TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO HIS PROPERTY.

>> AND THAT'S WHAT THE LAST PLAN SHOWED.

>> YES.

> PULL THE MIC CLOSER TO YOUR FACE FOR US? I'M SORRY.

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING ONLINE.

>> THAT STRIP TO THE RIGHT THERE WITH THE DOUBLE LINE ON IT, THAT IS RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR CAMPUS COURT THERE AND IT IS STILL THERE.

AND IF RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR CAMPUS COURT IS STILL THERE FROM STANFORD, DOWN TO THAT WHERE IT WIDENS OUT THERE DOWN TO THE SOUTH.

T TO HAVE ACCESS TO HIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

>> DO WE KNOW IF MR. COATES IS ON THE PIPELINE AT THIS TIME?

>> I'M WAITING FOR THAT NUMBER TO POP UP ONE MORE TIME.

>> OKAY THANK YOU.

>> I'LL MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.

I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THOSE RESIDENTS WHO DON'T WANT MORE TRAFFIC IN THE NAKED.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE CASE IN ALMOST EVERY WHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE TRAFFIC ON YOUR STREETS, YOU WANT TO SEE LESS.

B THEY THINK THAT CAMPUS

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COURT AND/OR APPROPRIATE FOR THE VOLUME OR THEY WOULDN'T BE RECOMMENDING THAT IT HAPPEN.

SO I GUESS AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M A PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS GUY AND THINK THAT IF HE HAS THE LAND TO DEVELOP AS HE SEES FIT AND AS LONG AS THE 70 SAYS THAT THOSE ROADS ARE HANDLINGS THE TRAFFIC CLINT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS A LOT MORE UNITS, AND WILL MAKE FOR A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THERE.

B CAN HANDLE IT, I WAS LOOKING BACK AT THE WIDER NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IS ADDING A LOT BUT THAT'S ALSO A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL NEIGHBOR.

AND I KNOW THAT GARFIELD WILL ADD MORE.

> RIGHT-OF-WAY IS A 60 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

>> YOU'RE SAYING CONTINUING ON CAMPUS COURT TO THE NORTH?

>> BOAST CAMPUS COURT AND GARFIELD AS THEY ARE NOW.

CAMPUS COURT ALL THE WAY UP IS SUPPOSED TO BE A 60 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

BUT IT IS NOT.

WE ABANDONED THAT SECTION.

>> AND I GUESS THE WAY I SEE IT IF I WERE TO TAKE IT ON NORTH TO STANFORD COMING ON DOWN, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE MARKETABILITY OF T LOTS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SAME TRAFFIC INCREASE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I WOULD .

THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE ARE GOING TO BE COMING DOWN CAMPUS COURT TO AMBLER THEN TO WHEREVER ELSE THEY ARE, THEN STANFORD STREET TO BE FORCED TO COME EAST TO A BUSY INTERSECTION DO COME BACK TO AMBLER.

I SUPPOSE IF THEY WERE GOING TO THE NORTH SIDE BUSINESSES WALMART AND SOME OF THE OTHERS, THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE EXIT WOULD BE, IF YOU WERE FORCE OD TO GO NORTH OR TO CURVE IT BACK TO THE LOOP RENT TO CAMPUS COURT YOU MIGHT SAVE SOME TRAFFIC THERE ON GAR BUT YOU ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE SAME FLOW ON GARFIELD REGARDLESS HOW YOU POSITION THAT DEVELOPMENT.

>> A 60 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET NOT A COLLECTOR.

> ONLY ADDITION I HAVE.

A NORMAL RESIDENTIAL STREET FROM RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY GARFIELD AND CAMPUS COURT.

>> AND I JUST -- >> SO THEY ARE NOT COLLECTORS.

THEY ARE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

>> THEY ARE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

>> AND YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN ON -- FRED AND I HAVE BEEN ON HERE TOO LONG OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE -- ADMIT.

>> YOU KNOW BEFORE TRAFFIC WAS A PROBLEM.

>> SURE.

>> OKAY.

A THINK THAT TRAFFIC ISN'T A PROBLEM NOW IS BECAUSE WE WENT FROM 24 D UNITS, PER ACRE, TO 12 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, IS THE REASON WE'RE SAYING IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

B IS A PROBLEM.

>> SURE.

> TALKING ABOUT IS ADDING 72 DWELLING UNITS WITH POTENTIALLY 144 MORE CARS GOING UP AND DOWN GA AND ON STREETS THAT NOW, 60 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET, BY OUR CRITERIA NOW, A COLLECTOR WOULD REQUIRE 80 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

SO THE STREETS ARE ALREADY SMALL.

> SHOULDN'T BEING THE DESIGNATION CURRENT FOR THAT? > AREA.

A CONDITION COULD BE FROM PLANNING AND ZONING TO HAVE THE STREET FACING THE PD WIDENED.

>> FROM 60 TO 80?

>> YES.

I CARRY MORE TRAFFIC.

I'M STILL WAITING TO SEE IF -- >> YOU'RE STILL DUMPING IT TO 60 FEET -- YOU'RE STILL DUMPING IT RESIDENTIAL STREETS ON EITHER SIDE.

>> THOSE RESIDENTIAL STREETS SENIOR 60 -- >> 30 FEET BACK TO BACK.

>> MR. COATES IS ONLINE.

LET ME UNMUTE HIM.

>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. COATES, ARE YOU ONLINE SIR?

>> YES.

> DISCUSSION.

I KICKING BACK AND FORTH YOUR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

> I'M JUST NOW ON BOARD.

I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR THE LAST HOUR OR SO, I'M JU NOW ON BOARD.

>> OKAY.

L MR. ROSENBAUM CAN YOU GIVE ME A RECAP OF KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN KICKING JUST OBRING MR. COATES UP TO SPEED.

> PRIOR, WAS MAKING ALL THE

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TRAFFIC GO OUT TO THE NORTH INSTEAD OF DUMPING IT I GARFIELD, AND CAMPUS COURT.

WE PROBABLY HAD I WOULD GUESS MAYBE TEN OR 12 RESIDENTS FROM THE AREA SPEAK.

THERE WAS ONE LADY THAT SAID THAT SHE HAD MET WITH OF THE HOMEOWNERS IN THAT AREA, THAT SAID THAT THEY WERE OKAY WITH THIS PLAN.

BUT THAT WAS JUST ONE OUT OF THE TEN OR 12 THAT WAS AGAINST THE TRAFFIC BEING OUT ON GARFIELD AND CAMPUS COURT.

EVERYBODY WAS AGAINST TAKING AND LETTING CAMPUS COUR ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT CAMPUS COURT NOT BEING ALLOWED AND STOPPING AT GARFIELD AND NOT BEING ALL THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

>> THAT WAS THE MAIN POINT.

THERE IS NO ACCESS TO CAMPUS COURT.

C STOPPED.

IT'S ALL BLOCKED.

>> SO THE DRAWING, ARE YOU ABLE TO LOOK AT YOUR SCREEN, SIR? ARE YOU ON -- ARE YOU JUST ON AUDIO? > TELEPHONE.

>> OKAY.

T LOOKS LIKE TWO -- A U AND IT COMES OUT ON GARFIELD AVENUE.

IS THAT, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

ENTRANCE AND EGRESS ARE ON GARFIELD.

> OKAY.

>> YES.

> SAYING, EXPLAIN YOURS AGAIN, ALEX, EXPLAIN WHAT YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER.

SORRY TO JUMP IN.

>> SO THE CITY STILL HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON CAMP COURT COMING FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE ACCESS ROAD.

COULD IT -- CAN WE WITH DEVELOP, CAN YOU DEVELOP THE CAMPUS COURT ROAD FROM THE ACCESS ROAD AND YOUR TWO ENTRANCES RIGHT OFF OF CAMPUS COURT, AND THEN BLOCK OFF CAMPUS COURT? GOING SOUTH?

>> CAMPUS COURT WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED.

C DEVELOPED PAST GARFIELD.

THAT'S ABANDONED, IT'S NOT UTILIZED IN ANY WAY.

>> OKAY.

> PERIOD, DOES NOT EXTEND SOUTH FROM THE NORTH.

IT DOES NOT EXTEND FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH.

IT IS ABANDONED.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED BY ME AT ALL.

> CLINT, THE ONLY PORTION THAT I UNDERSTOOD WAS ABANDONED WAS ONL FOOT SECTION OR SO FROM GARFIELD.

50 FOOT.

> MR. ROSENBAUM I'M LOOKING AT THE CAN DIAGRAM THAT WAS DONE BY JOE ADAMS FOR THE CITY THAT THE C FOR TWO WEEKS AND THEY SENT IT BACK TO ME WITH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT STREET IS NEVER TO BE DEVELOPED, IT'S NEVER TO BE UTILIZED BY ME OR ANYBODY.

I CLOSED ENTIRELY.

M OENTRANCE AND EXIT OFF GARFIELD.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THAT WAS JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

>> FOR THIS?

>> FOR THIS.

>> PD 144 WAS STILL COMING FROM THE NORTH.

>> YES.

>> NO.

N THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING, THAT THERE'S NO ACCESS FROM THE NORTH.

NOW I AGREE WITH IT.

IT SAYS BASICALLY THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SA SUBDIVISION OR RESUBDIVISION OR ANY PART OF THIS SUBJECT PR SHOULD BE PROCEEDED BY CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AN ORDER AUTHORIZING ABANDONMENT OF ALL RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM CAMPUS COURT TO OGARFIELD AVENUE.

MATERIALLY COMPLETE BY APPROVAL AND RECORDING OF THE SUBDIVISION PLAT REPLAT INTEGRATING SUCH RIGHT-OF-WAY AUTHORIZED TO BE ABANDONED INTO THIS PROPERTY DIRECTLY EAST OR WEST OF THE SUBJE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

I'M TOTALLY 100% OKAY WITH THAT.

I HAVE NO ACCESS, NO INTEREST IN CAMPUS COURT, IF THIS IS -- IF THIS PLAN IS APPROVED.

>> THAT'S ONLY A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THIS PLAN WAS OKAY.

AND SO -- >> I'M SORRY SIR?

>> THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF ON T CLOSURE OF CAMPUS COURT.

A RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS PLAN WAS OKAY.

A WE'RE NOT SURE THIS PLAN IS OKAY AND WE'RE DISCUSSING IS STILL LEAVING CAMPUS COURT AS A STREET, FROM THAT 50 FOOT SECTION

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THAT'S BEEN ABANDONED TURNING IT -- TURNING YOUR U TO THE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

>> YES.

A COURT FOREVER.

I YEARS, AND NO ONE WANTS TO UTILIZE CAMPUS COURT.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE THE STAR IN THE POT THAT STIRS IT.

I WANT OUT OF CAMPUS COURT.

I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS DIAGRAM, THIS PROP WE PROPOSED ACCEPTED.

I POINT OF VIEW.

T ADAMS. I YOU.

>> MR. COATES, WE DO.

THIS IS ALEX.

BEFORE YOU WERE ONLINE, YOU HEARD FROM A FEW OF THE NEIGHBORS ON GARFIELD AND CAMPUS COURT AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AND THEIR CONCERN WAS STILL, AND FORGIVE ME FOR BEING A LITTLE BIT NEWER TO THIS, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME FOR YOU FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LAND BUT THE NEIGHBORS WERE STILL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ALL DUMPING ONTO GARFIELD AND THE SURROUNDING STREETS.

>> OKAY.

YES.

> CAMPUS COURT CONVERSATION AND TALK ABOUT DEVELOPING CAMPUS COURT FROM A MIDDLE OF YOUR CURRENT CONCEPT, GRAPHIC CONCEPT THE NORTH TO STANFORD STREET AND COMPLETELY ABANDONING IT FROM THE SAME SPOT, THE MIDDLE, DOWN TO CAMPUS COURT GARFIELD.

SO THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO THOROUGHFARE FROM THE ACCESS ROAD DOWN TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD BUT YOU IN THIS NEW NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE ENTRANCES AND EXITS ONTO CAMPUS COURT THAT NORTH ONLY.

>> YES, SOUNDS LIKE NUER A DEEP DARK CAVERN AND MAMMOTH CAVES.

I GET BITS AND PIECES OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT SOME RESIDENTS TODAY WANT T CAMPUS COURT OPEN, ASK THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> NO, SIR.

T CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC DUMPING ONTO GARFIELD.

>> OKAY.

> KNOW THE NUANCES OF THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR ENTRANCE AND CAMPUS COURT AND DEVELOP IT FOR ABOUT MIDWAY WHERE IT'S QUOTE UNQUOTE ABANDON AD NOW, YOU DEVELOP IT THERE YOUR ENTRANCES AND EXITS TO THE NORTH TO THE ACCESS ROAD AND THEN COMPLETELY ABANDON IT AND BARRICADE IT TO THE YOU SOUTH TOW GARFIELD, SO THERE IS NO THOROUGHFARE OR ACCESS FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO GARFIELD AND THERE IS ONLY ACCESS FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE ACCESS ROAD ONTO CAMPUS COURT AND THEN INTO THE ENTRANCE.

>> TELL ME YOUR NAME.

>> ALEX.

>> ALEX, LAST NAME?

>> RUSSELL.

>> YOU'RE ON THE COMMISSION?

>> I'M SORRY? > COMMISSION.

>> YOU'RE A COMMISSIONER?

>> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY.

A GROUP HAS FOUGHT ACCESS TO CAMPUS COURT.

AND THAT'S A HUGE SPAN ON GARFIELD THAT WE'VE HAD DRAWN UP.

IT EASILY HANDLES 38 LOTS.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT HEAVY TRAFFIC THAT THEY'LL PROPOSE THAT THERE IS, THAT'S A SUPER, SUPER, WIDE, LONG STREET ON GARFIELD.

U AND I HAVE JUST TALKED, NO ONE OF WANTED ACCESS ON CAMPUS COURT.

AND THAT'S SO WE A-- IN OUR DRAWING, AND I'VE TALKED TO MR. STONE AND I TALKED TO JOE ADAMS, WE CLOSED CAMPUS COURT FOREVER FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.

SO THAT'S -- IT'S VERY CURIOUS TO ME TO HEAR THIS INTEREST IN THE 12TH HOUR TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

BUT I'M USED TO IT.

>> MR. COATES -- >> I'M AFRAID THI US TO COMMUNICATE CLEARLY SIR.

>> YES, IT IS.

MR. COATES THIS CONCEPT IS NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHETHER THE MULTIFAMILY WAS THERE.

IT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN PD 144 IS RIGHT N LEAVING YOUR -- USING YOUR LOTS JUST LIKE THEY ARE BUT THEY EXIT TO THE NORTH JUST LIKE THE MULTIFAMILY DID.

THE CONCEPT IS NOT ANY DIFFERENT.

THAT'S WHAT ALEX IS SAYING.

>> OKAY.

OKAY.

S CAMPUS COURT OPEN.

>> FROM THE ABANDONED SECTION NORTH.

> HAVE A DIAGRAM SOMETIME AGO THAT HAS AN SECTION IN THE MIDDLE OF CAMPUS COURT IS THAT

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CORRECT, A BLACK SPOT?

>> IT IS ON YOURS, IT IS ON YOUR DIAGRAM.

>> OKAY.

I THAT IT MARCH 24TH, 2020.

>> MR. COATES, WE HAVE THE GRAPHIC CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS DELIVERED TO OUR -- AND THAT IS WHAT IS BEING SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

Y FROM ARE ONLINE AT THE THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

>> WE NEED TO MOVE THIS ON.

WE NEED (INAUDIBLE) IT'S NOT.

>> FULLY OTHER, THIS IS MR. FAMBLE.

M MR. COATES?

>> I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE CERTAIN I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.

I KNOW THAT THE STAFF OF HAD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE STAND.

WHAT'S STANDING IN THE WAY OF THAT TODAY.

WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW, WHAT DO I NEED TO DO?

>> WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE TRYING T DESCRIBE, ALEX AND THEN MR. HAD ROSENBAUM, CLINT, WAS TRYING TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON, YOU KNOW, IF THE THE DRAWING OR CONCEPT COULD BE CHANGED FROM EGRESS, FROM GARFIELD AVENUE TO TURN THAT TO EGRESS COMING ONTO CAMPUS COURT, FORCING THAT TRAFFIC OR THAT EGRESS DUE NORTH.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

AND KICKING AROUND.

>> I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS ACCESS TO THE NORTH.

BECAUSE THE NORTH ACCESS IS ONLY A 30 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED EVER KNOWLEDGE.

AND SO THAT GOING TO THE NORTH IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE OWNER OF THAT STRIP IS NOT GOING TO DEVEL ANY TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO THAT'S OUT FOR ME.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE ACCESS FRO CAMPUS COURT ONTO THAT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT DOES TO ME.

FINANCIALLY, DRAINAGE WISE, BY CREATING A NEW DRAIN DID EXPENSE OF DOING THAT GOING NORTH.

B CAMPUS COURT ON THAT SMALL, SMALL RIG THERE, MAYBE 120 FEET TO TAKE -- TO TA TRAFFIC OFF OF GARFIELD, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

I'M INTERESTED IN GETTING THE PROJECT APPROVED SO I'LL WORK WITH YOU TO GET THAT DONE.

>> OKAY.

> THE DRAWING, I GUESS WE'LL DO IT.

BUT YOU ASKED ME TO BE OFF OF CAMPUS COURT.

I CAN GO WITH THAT, WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE ENGINEERING OF IT ABOUT.

BUT ABOUT I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.

> APPRECIATE THAT.

W NOTES WITH THIS.

I THIS YOU WANT TO SAY BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?

>> HOW MANY COMMISSIONERS ARE THERE TODAY?

>> SIX.

>> DO YOU HAVE A QUORUM?

>> WE DO.

>> OKAY.

A ITEM? OR HAVE I WASTED YOUR TIME? I'M SORRY.

>> OH NO, YOU HAVEN'T WASTED OUR TIME.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY?

>> YES.

W CONTINUE INTO NEXT MONTH? > COMMISSION.

>> WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO TRY AND VOTE TODAY, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, UNLESS THE DISCUSSION LENDS TO TABLING IT.

WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT.

> HAPPY TO PROVIDE ACCESS ONTO CAMPUS COURT THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED.

>> THANK YOU SIR, VERY MUCH.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY?

>> NO, SIR.

F 669-7131, IF I CAN HELP YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

>> THANK YOU, AT THIS TIME I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE DID PUBLIC HEARING.

D CLINT, WE NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

ANY DISCUSSION? HE SEEMED WILLING, FROM WHAT I HEARD.

J TO MAKE ANY NOTES OR RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO CHANGING THIS, I WON'T CALL IT A SITE PLAN BUT THIS

PLAN -- >> SO THE GRAPHIC CONCEPT PLAN THAT IS DESCRIBED BY MS. RUSSELL IS A COMPLETELY GRAPHIC CONCEPT PLAN THAN WE SEE HERE.

IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR STAFF AND THE OTHER INDIVIDUA ON OUR COMMITTEE TO BE ABLE TO, DRC TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT, BEFORE WE WO OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN FRON US.

A LOT OF INFORMATION WE DON'T KNOW FROM ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S FEASIBLE.

>> OKAY.

> VOTED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IT WOULD MOVE TO COUNCIL.

>> OKAY.

I AS-IS.

> COMMISSIONERS.

EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND IF WE TABLE THIS, BASED ON ALEX'S RECOMMENDATION, THERE'S SOME HOMEWORK, AS I UNDERSTAND, STAFF WOULD NEED TO DO AND GET OTHER PIECES TO THE TABLE AND THEN I GUESS WE COULD TABLE IT UNTIL A FUTURE POINT IN TIME.

I GUESS I'M ASKING, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE WANT TO DO, COLLECTIVELY, OR MOVE THIS ON? > WHETHER IT'S GOING TO PASS OR NOT.

I KNOW WHERE I STAND, YOU KNOW, AND I DON' CAMPUS COURT AND GARFIELD AS THEY ARE TODAY HANDLE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THAT'S GOING TO PUT OUT THERE WHICH IS THE SAME THING THAT WE FOUGHT FOR THE TWO PREVIOUS OR THREE PREVIOUS TIMES THAT THEY CAME IN.

AND SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

AND MAYBE AIT'S A GOOD USE OF THE PROPERTY OR NOT.

WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY START OUT BY PUTTING THIS DEVELOPMENT AT THE BACK OF AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION.

IT WOULD BE TOWARDS THE FRONT.

IT WOULD BE TOWARDS THE MAIN ARTERIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO YOU KNOW WHERE I STAND.

SOMEBODY ELSE PROBABLY OUGHT TO CALL THE QUESTION.

>> OKAY.

WELL LET'S JUST SEE.

LET'S JUST SEE.

SOMEBODY GIVE ME A MOTION.

AND LET'S VOTE AND LET'S JUST SEE.

Y YOU WERE OKAY AS IT STOOD.

DID I MISUNDERSTAND?

>> I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT IT'S GOIN HAVE TRAFFIC WISE.

IF YOU GO AS A DEVELOPER, BASED ON THE ISSUES THAT ARE THERE, THE CITY WOULD ALLOW ME TO CONNECT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THERE A YOU SPEND THE MONEY AND DO IDENTITY, I THINK YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT UNLESS THE CITY TELLS YOU THE ROADS WON'T HANDLE IT.

I INCREASE BUT I THINK IF HE PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT'S KIND OF -- I GUESS IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO HIM.

AND I'D SAY WELL NO WE DON'T THINK SO AND YOU'VE HEARD FROM SOME NEIGHBORS THAT DON'T WANT THAT INCREASE.

W UNDERSTAND.

IF I'M A NEIGHBOR I PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANT THAT BE EITHER.

IF HE'S MADE THE INVESTMENT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO IT.

>> ARE YOU PUTTING THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> OKAY, IS IS DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

> SECOND.

LET'S SEE.

>> MR. BARNETT.

YES.

MS. RUSSELL.

NO.

MR. BENHAM.

NO.

MR. ROSENBAUM.

NO.

REVEREND LANGFORD.

YES.

AND MR. FAMBLE.

NO.

A HAS BEEN DENIED.

> PROCEDURALLY, SAY THAT THREE TIMES FAST.

WHAT HAPPENS NOW?

>> THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL WILL BE THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL

BUT PLANNING AND ZONING IS RECOMMENDING -- >> WILL IT GO TO COUNCIL? IT DOES GO DO COUNCIL? THAT'S MY QUESTION.

>> IT GOES TO COUNCIL BUT THE RECOMMENDATION FR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL BE DENIAL.

> TO TAKE PLACE.

>> HE HAS TO APPEAL IT.

IT WON'T GO TO COUNCIL WITHOUT HIS APPEAL.

> ABOUT IT? > CORRECT STANLEY HIS APPEAL IS TO COUNCIL?

>> YES.

YES.

Y THIS MATTER, THAT WAS NOT

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APPROVED AT THIS POINT, WOULD GO BEFORE THE C AS IT'S RIGHT NOW.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> SO PROCEDURALLY NOW DO WE KEEP DISCUSSING MOVE ON TO MY NEXT ITEM?

>> THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A DENIAL BECAUSE IT DIDN'T PASS.

>> I UNDERSTAND SO I MOVE ON TO MY NEXT ITEM.

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

I'M GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS, Y'ALL PRAY FOR ME.

[8. Z-2020-06: Public hearing and possible vole to recommend approval or denial to City Council on a request from Eric Salazar to rezone property from an Agricultural Open Space (AO) to a Rural Residential (RR-l) District; Legal description being 5.0 acres in the center of W.C. Jobe Addition and located in the 7100-7200 blocks (east side) of West Lake Road, approximately 1.5 miles north of F.M. 3034 in the Lake Fort Phantom Hill area of Abilene, Texas]

I'M GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, Z 2020-06.

P VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A REQUEST ERIC SALAZAR TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM AN AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACE AO TO A RURAL RESI DISTRICT, LEGAL DESCRIPTION BEING 5 ACRES, ON CENTER OF IS W.C.

JOBE ADDITION LOCATED IN THE 7100-720 SIDE OF WEST LAKE ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 1.5 MILES NORTH OF THE FM 3034 IN T LAKE FORT PHANTOM HILL AREA OF ABILENE, TEXAS.

>> IN ORDER TO SUBDIVIDE THE 75 ACRES INTO THREE PARCELS FOR SINGLE SYSTEM HOMES JUST OFTEN OF WEST LAKE ROAD IN THE REQUEST CRO HATCHED SEXTON LOCATION MAP.

A ZONING MAP.

T THAT WAS REPLATED FROM A SEVEN ACRE PLAT OF LAND IN 1978.

IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF THE PROPERTY.

I STAFF THAT'S THREE PARCELS WOULD NOT OVERCROWD THE AREA AND RESTRICTED OPEN SPACE.

SEEN HERE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERT THE NEIGHBORING HOUSE TO THE NORTH.

PLANNING SERVICES DIVISION SENT PUBLIC NOTICES TO THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FOOT RADIUS AND ONE PROPERTY RETURNED IN FAVOR OF THIS REZONING.

S SECTION 1.4.1.4 CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS REQUEST.

I QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

T ONLINE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, PLEASE GO FORWARD.

>> WE HAVE NO PARTICIPANTS ONLINE.

>> NO PARTICIPANTS ONLINE.

AT THIS TIME I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> CHERYL, ON THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S T FIRST TIME THAT'S COME UP IN A LONG TIME.

>> CORRECT.

> DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND NORMAL, I GUESS, RESIDENTIAL, IS YOU'RE NO CURB AND GUTTER, ARE YOUR LOTS BIGGER, WHAT'S THE --

>> SO THEY DO NEED TO BE IN ONE-ACRE LOTS AT A MINIMUM AND THEN THERE WOULD NOT OBE THAT CURB AND GUTTER.

THIS BEING WEST LAKE ROAD AND BEING A TEX DOT ROADWAY, THEY WOULD REQUIRE THE DRIVEWAYS TO CONCRETE DRIVEWAYS ON APPROACH.

B PARTS OF THE DRIVEWAYS THEN IT COULD REMAIN THAT IMPROVED SERVICE WOULD HAVE IF YOU WERE IN A RURAL AREA.

>> ARE WE DOING RURAL RESIDENTIAL OUT AROU LAKE SOME? I THAT IS CONSISTENT.

THE OPEN SPACES THAT THEY HAVE THERE AS WELL, A MORE RESTRICTIVE RESIDENTIAL, IT DOESN'T FIT IN SIX, EIGHT OR 12, AS FAR AS THE SIZES.

SO RURAL RESIDENTIAL ALLOWS IT TO BE THAT OVER- LAND, AND A LITTLE LESS RESTRICTIVE ON THE USES WITH IT ABUTTING AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACE TO THE WEST AND TO THE EAST.

>> OKAY.

A DIFFERENT? A KNOW?

>> ALL OF THE HOUSES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FACING -- THE APPROACHES ARE GOING TO BE FACING WEST LAKE ROAD.

SO IT WOULD BE INDIVIDUAL THREE -- IT WO LOTS, ALL WITH THE DRIVEWAY APPROACHES COMING OFF OF WEST LAKE ROAD SO U TEX DOT WANTED TO.

>> NOW ISSUE THERE.

>> NO, SIR.

> DISCUSSION?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

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> SECOND.

>> MR. BARNETT.

YES.

MS. RUSSELL.

YES.

MR. BENHAM.

YES.

MR. ROSENBAUM.

YES.

R MR. FAMBLE.

YES.

AND THE MOTION CARRIES.

>> NEXT ITEM ON TO CAN AGENDA, Z 202007, PUBLI HEARING POSSIBLE VOTE TO

[9. Z-2020-07: Public hearing and possible vote to recommend approval or denial to City Council on a request from Vader Enterprises LLC, agent Sheldon Greene, to rezone property from a Heavy Industrial (HF) to a Heavy Commercial (HC) District; Legal description being the east 403 feet of the west 698 feet of Lot 1 in the Weldon Wilson Addition to Abilcne, Taylor County, Texas, being the rear (eastern) approximately 2.2 acres of a building site at 4721 Hill Street in southern Abilene]

RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL TO CITY COUNCIL ON A REQUEST FROM VADER ENTERPRISES LLC, AGENT SHELDON GREENE TO REZ PROPERTY FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT LEGAL DESCRIPTION BEING THE EAST 403 FEET OF THE WEST FEET OF LOT 1 IN THE WELDON WILSON ADDITION TO ABILENE, TERRIBLY COUNTY TEXAS, BEING THE REAR EAS APPROXIMATELY 2.2 ACRES OF A BUILDING SITE 4721 STREET TO SOUTHERN ABILENE ABILENE.

> INDUSTRIAL TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

WHY IN ORDER TO UTILIZE THE ENTIRE TRACT OF LAN FUEL CELLS JUST OFF OF HILL STREET IS AS SEEN HERE IN THE YELLOW CROSS H SECTION ON THE LOCATION MAP.

A THE ZONING MAP.

T WHICH IS PRESENTLY DIVIDED INTO TWO ZONING DISTRICTS, THE WESTERN MOST 1.5 IS ZONED HEAVY COMMERCIAL WHILE THE REMAINING PORTION OF TRACTING ZONED HEAVY THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS LOT HAS BEEN ZONED SUCH SINCE 1974 AND THE REMAINING PORTION AND LOT WAS ZONED HEAVY INDUS SOMETIME BETWEEN 1974 AND 1996.

T REMAINED VACANT SINCE THE BEGINNING, SINCE BEING ZONED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, REZONING TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING WOULD FACILITATE INFILL DEVELOPMENT BY PERMITTING A WIDER RANGE OF USES T ENTIRE TRACT OF LAND.

SEEN HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

T NOTICES TO THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNERS, COMMENT WAS RETURNED ON TO THE PUBLIC ZONING.

1.4.1.4 CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

I QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

>> QUESTIONS? I'M OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? NO ONE ONLINE? I HEARING.

DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION OR POS MOTION?

>> THIS IS A GOOD ZONE CHANGE.

>> IT IS.

IT REALLY IS.

>> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> OKAY MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

> SECOND.

>> MR. BARNETT.

YES.

MS. RUSSELL.

YES.

MR. BENHAM.

YES.

MR. ROSENBAUM.

YES.

REVEREND LANGFORD.

YES.

AND MR. FAMBLE.

YES.

A CARRIES.

>> THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR'S REPORT PLEASE.

[DIRECTORS REPORT]

>> YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN OF.

Y HIGHLIGHTING CASES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THIS BOARD AND WHICH ARE SUBSEQUENTLY ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AT THEIR MARCH MEETING.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS FOUR ON THERE.

I FOUR CASES.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE CASES WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SIR VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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