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>> IT'S 1:30 P.M. AND I WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ABILENE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION TRANSPORTATION POLICY BOARD MEETING TO ORDER.

FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA ON ORDER WE THINK THAT PUBLIC COMMENT CAN BE MADE ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

AS WELL AS NEW MEETING AND ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

USE STAR 9. ITEM NUMBER 2 AGAIN

[2. Consideration and Take Action on the minutes of the June 24, 2020 and the July 28, 2020 meetings.]

CONSIDERATION OF TAKE ACTION ON THE MINUTES OF JUNE 24TH, 2020 AND THE JULY 28TH 2020 MEETINGS. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTION OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE MINUTES? IF NOT I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. .

>> MR. CHAIRMAN IT WOULD BE MY MOTION IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONS OR CHANGES TO MINUTES THAT THEY BE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.

THIS FOR JULY 24TH, 2020 AND JULY 28TH, 2020.

>>> OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I THINK THAT WAS MR. JOHNSON. I THINK WE'RE HAVING ISSUE

HEARING YOU. >> IS THAT BETTER?

>> YES. I APOLOGIZE.

I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED.

THE MOTION IS APPROVED. ITEM NUMBER 3 RECEIVE REPORT

[3. Receive a Report, Hold a Discussion, and Take Action on the Saturation Count Locations.]

HOLD A DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON THE SATURATION COUNT

LOCATIONS. >> JUST A SECOND.

LET ME GET TO THAT. >> THIS IS THE THE INFORMATION FROM THE SATURATION COUNTS. EVERY FIVE YEAR TXDOT COMES IN AND DOES TRAFFIC COUNT. THEY COLLECT DATA FOR 24 HOURS 365 DAYS A YEAR. THEY COME IN AT CERTAIN TIME WITHIN THAT FIVE YEAR AND DO THE TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR SATURATION COUNTS. THERE'S CURRENTLY A PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE TRAFFIC COUNTS THROUGH THE SEARCH ONLINE.

AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I WANTED TO SHOW YOU ALL THIS.

AND THEN ALSO ASK FOR YOUR ALL INPUT IF THERE'S LOCATIONS THAT YOU CAN THINK OF WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO PUT NEW TRAFFIC COUNTS IN. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE AND BOTH COUNTIES TO SEE IF THERE'S LOCATIONS WITHIN THE MPL AREA AND THEN WE'RE WORKING WITH LOCAL TXDOT OFFICE AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT ENTIRE 13 COUNTIES AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MPO AREA.

WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO SEE WHERE WE FEED TO PUT IN NEW TRAFFIC COUNT LOCATIONS. THIS IS MENTIONED AT THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT THE JOINT MEETING ON JULY 28TH.

NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON. WE DON'T NEED ACTION TODAY.

BUT TO INFORM YOU AND GET YOUR INPUT IF THERE'S ANY LOCATIONS

YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT? >> THIS IS WHAT THE SATURATION COUNTS MAP LOOKS LIKE. YOU CAN SEE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I'M GOING TO GO TO ANOTHER SCREEN AND I WILL SHOW YOU THE ACTUAL LOG-IN SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THEN WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE LOCATION.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN DO THAT. OKAY.

THIS IS THE ACTUALLY WHEN YOU GO TO ACTUAL DOCUMENT THAT WAS LISTED THE LINK LISTED ON THE SCREEN.

YOU CAN GO OVER TO THE -- WHOOPS, HOLD ON.

IT'S NOT GOING TO LET ME DO THAT.

BECAUSE IT'S IN THE SAME DEAL. I WILL GO BACK TO THE POWERPOINT. OKAY.

THIS IS WHAT THE ACTUAL SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE.

YOU WOULD GO OVER TO THE HOME AND WHILE YOU ARE THERE, YOU WOULD TYPE IN ABILENE. AND IT WOULD PULL IN THAT LOCATION, THE WHOLE AREA. AND THEN YOU GO OVER TO YOUR

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TOOLS WHERE IT SAYS GENERAL. AND THE FIRST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS THAT LITTLE BUTTON THAT SAYS TDDS IN THE CORNER.

YOU WOULD CLICK ON THAT AND THEN CLICK ON THE ADT SATURATION COUNTS. IT WOULD PULL IN WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN WITH THE RED DOTS. YOU CAN GO UNDER THAT GENERAL AND SEE WHERE IT SAYS MPO. IF YOU CLICK ON MPO BRINGS IN THE MPO AREA AND YOU CAN SEE BEING COUNTED IN THE MPO AREA.

THIS IS REALLY JUST I'VE GOT SOME GREAT RESPONSES BACK FROM THE CITY OF ABILENE AND TAYLOR AND WAITING FOR MORE IN JONES COUNTY. THIS THE SEPTEMBER 4TH.

IT WILL BE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO TXDOT VERY

SHORTLY. >> THAT'S IT UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

>> THIS THE JUDGE BOLLS AGAIN. DOES THIS MEAN WE WILL NOT SEE THE SATURATION ACROSS THE ROADS. WILL THERE BE SOMEONE COUNTING

TRAFFIC? >> STILL USING 24-HOUR COUNT.

IT WILL BE THE LINES THAT YOU SEE ACROSS -- THE TWO YOU SEE ACROSS THE ROADWAYS. WHAT THEY ARE PREDICTING THIS WILL BE DONE IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

AND SO UNLESS SOMETHING WEIRD

DID WE LOSE SAM? >> I CAN STILL HEAR.

>> OKAY I WILL TRY TO MUTE UNLESS SOMEONE NEEDS TO SPEAK.

YOU CAN EITHER RAISE YOUR HAND OR IF YOU ARE CALLING IN, DO THE STAR LINE. THAT WAS IT FOR ITEM NUMBER 3.

LISA, I DON'T SAY SHANE'S NAME ON THE PARTICIPANT LIST ANY

MORE? >> OKAY.

HE WAS ALSO TRYING TO CALL IN. HERE HE COMES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> WE CAN.

WE LOST FOR YOU A SECOND THERE.

[4. Hold a Discussion, and Take Action on an amendment to the FYs 2020-2021 Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP).]

>> WE WERE ON ITEM 3. WE HAVEN'T COVERED FOUR YET.

IT'S THE SATURATION COUNT LOCATIONS.

>> OKAY. >> IF THERE'S NO COMMENTS, THERE'S NO -- [INAUDIBLE]

>> YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECTION.

NO ACTION AT THIS TIME. IF SOMEONE DOES HAVE SOME LOCATIONS THEY WOULD LIKE TO US LOOK AT PLEASE BE IN TOUCH WITH ME AND LET US PUT THOSE IN BEFORE THE SEPTEMBER 4TH

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DEADLINE. >> OKAY.

[INAUDIBLE] UNIFIED PLANT PROGRAM IS OURING BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.

THIS COVERS FISCAL YEARS 20 AND '21.

THE AMENDMENT IS TO THIS WHEN WE DID THE OFFICE RELOCATION THE FEDERAL HIGHWAYS WANTED IT MORE DETAILED.

WE ADDED IN EXPENSES AND IN ADDITION IN THE YEAR 2020 AND 2021 WE UPDATED THE BUDGET FIGURES SINCE WE KNOW WHAT SOME OF OUR CURRENT NEEDS ARE. THESE ARE THE CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT. I WILL GO INTO DETAIL ON SOME OF THESE. THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.

THE PAGE NUMBERS WAS UPDATED. PAGE 10 WE ADDED IN RELOCATION EXPENSES THAT I REFERRED TO. PAGE 12 WE INCREASED 1.1.

THIS WAS IN YEAR 20-'21. 45,000.

PART FOR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE PART FOR GENERAL OPERATIONS. PAGE 15 WE INCREASE 2.2 IN THE YEAR 2021 FOR THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

THIS IS JUST GIVE UP MORE. BECAUSE IT TAKES LONGER TO DO PERFORMANCE MEASURES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE STAFF SALARIES ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

ON PAGE 20 WE INCREASE TASK 4.2 IN 2021 BY 20,000 FOR THE TRIAL DEMAND MODEL UPKEEP. 2021 WE MOVED 5.1 WHICH IT WAS PLANNING INFORMATION AND MOVED FROM 2020 TO 2021 BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IT THIS YEAR.

PART OF COME PRESINCE CIVIL PLANNING STUDIES THAT EL WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING WITH THE CONSULTANT.

THE PAGE 22 AND 23 WE UPDATED THE BUDGET SUMMARIES.

WE CHANGED THE CARRY OVER AND COMBINED FUNDS MORE ACCURATELY REFLECT WHAT OUR CURRENT SITUATION IS.

ON PAGE 25 WE UPDATED THE MEMBERSHIP.

ON PAGE 31 WE UPDATED THE HISTORY OF AMENDMENTS.

JUST BRIEFLY SO YOU CAN SEE THE DATA CHANGE HERE.

THE TABLE OF CONTENTS. PAGE NUMBERS AND THEN THE RELOCATION OF THE OFFICES HERE AND THE EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THE SUMMARY THIS IS INFORMATION THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. 45,000 FOR ADMINISTRATIVE.

2, 4 AND 5 WERE UPDATED AS DISCUSSED.

FOR THE SUMMARY SHEETS. THEY WERE UPDATED DOWN AT BOTTOM WITH OUR CARRY OVER FUNDS. WE NOW HAVE COMBINED TRANSPORTATION PLANNING FUNDS THAT WE HAD AND THEN ON 21 THE SAME THING APPROVED. THIS IS THE MEMBERS UPDATED WITH THE NEW MEMBERSHIP AND THEN THE AMENDMENTS THE HISTORY OF THE

AMENDMENTS. >> THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN THE DIRECTOR IN THE JOINT MEETING ON JUUL 28TH.

NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. WHAT WE ASK FOR TODAY APPROVEMENT OF THE AMENDMENT THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED FOR THE UPW. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. [INAUDIBLE]

>> YES. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS.

THIS DOES TAKE AN AND SHUK SNUN ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE FY-20-'21UPY.

>> CARL JOHNSON MOVES TO APPROVE.

>> DOWNING BOLLS MAKES A MOTION TO -- SECONDS THAT MOTION.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED.

[5. Hold a Discussion, and Take any Action on the MPO’s Organization Structure within the City of Abilene.]

NONE OPPOSED THE ITEM PASSES. WE MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE HOLD A DISCUSSION AND TAKE ANY ACTION ON THE MPO'S ORGANIZATION STRUCTURE WITHIN THE CITY OF ABILENE.

>> A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. THE CITY OF ABILENE CAME TO THE MBO AND ASKED HOW THEY COULD HELP US STREAMLINE THE PROCESSES AND MAKE SURE THAT MPO HAS A FUTURE.

WE PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION TO THEM IN THE FORM OF QUESTIONS AND THEN RESPONDED BACK AND I DID E-MAIL THOSE OUT THIS MORNING TO YOU ALL. YOU SHOULD HAVE THOSE.

AND THIS IS REALLY JUST AN OPPORTUNITY AT THIS POINT IN

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TIME TO ASK WHAT THE BOARD'S DIRECTION IS TO GIVE DIRECTION HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MPO OPERATE.

MR. RICE I BELIEF IS ALSO ON THE ZOOM MEETING AND HE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE CITY'S POINT OF VIEW.

JUST TRYING TO GET FEEDBACK ON HOW YOU ARE THINKING THINKS ARE

GOING AND SOME DIRECTION. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD WITH REGARD TO THE INFORMATION THAT

WE BROUGHT OVER TODAY. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PER SE. I WANT TO TELL THE CITY STAFF I APPRECIATE THEIR RESPONSE TO WHAT OUR CONCERNS WERE.

JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY. I THINK THIS ISSUE BROUGHT UP JUDGE SPARKS WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPARTIALITY IT HAD.

SO IT'S NOT PERCEIVED AS SUBCOMMITTEE.

IT'S SUPPOSE TWOED A STAND ALONE ORGANIZATION AS I UNDERSTAND BY THE BI-LAWS. THAT'S THE QUESTION.

WHERE IS THAT LINE GET DRAWN IN TERMS OF THE LEGALITY FOR THE BOARD TO ACT ON THE FUNDING REQUEST.

THOSE ASSIGNED TO MPO AS OPPOSED TO BE USING UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE CITY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE MAJOR QUESTIONS WERE. I APPRECIATE THAT HAS BEEN CLARIFIED. I CERTAINLY DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT I READ THROUGH IN THIS DOCUMENT.

I BELIEVE THE CITY PROVIDES A SERVICE TO US AS THE MPO OF BEING THE FISCAL AGENT AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT, HUMAN RESOURCES FINDING EVERYTHING. ALL OF THOSE -- AS THE MEMBER OF THE BOARD, I APPRECIATE THE CITY STANDING UP AND DOING THAT.

AND I THINK THAT WAS THE NATURE OF THE QUESTION.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS AT THE SAME TIME JUDGE SPURGIN.

WHAT CAN WE DO AS INDEPENDENT BOARD THAT WE NEED TO DO KEEP THE POLICY MOVING. THAT'S THE NATION OF THE

QUESTION AND THE DISCUSSION. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LISA RAN INTO. THE NEED TO PUBLISH THE PROPOSED JOB OPENING FOR THE PLANNING POSITION CITY OF ABILENE HAD HIRING FREEZE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THE POST I THINK SHE REQUESTED TO GO OUT WAS NOT PUT OUT.

SHOWS YOU COME ZUTH ABOUT YOUR FUNDING IS SEPARATE.

THESE POSITIONS NEED TO BE FILLED.

WHY ARE THEY BEING HELD UP. WE WERE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT WAS THE BEST ROUTE PURSUE IN ORDER TO ALLOW HER TO DO WHAT SHE NEEDS TO DO AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER ASPECTS TO THAT LIKE SALARY POSITION AND THE CITY HAS TALL RAE STRUCTURAL.

IT'S REALLY MY PERSPECTIVE IS REALLY A DISCUSSION FROM THE POLICY BOARD TO MAKE. THAT'S A FUNDING DECISION.

THE CITY OF ABILENE, THE DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE.

THE WAY THINGS HAVE BEEN STRUCTURED IT WAS REALLY UNDER THEIR CONTROL OR THEIR GUIDANCE -- GUIDELINES.

I THINK PART OF WHAT THE CITY LOOKING FOR IS FOR THE POLICY BOARD TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT THE CITY THE POLICY BOARD TO CONTROL.

AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT OKAY FOR THE CITY TO BE INVOLVED IN.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS IT -- SHE HAS TO GET APPROVAL FROM PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WHICH SHE DOESN'T REPORT TO HIM.

SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY IN MY OPINION MORE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR THE POLICY BOARD TO DECIDE VACATION TIME FOR HER.

AND WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT.

THERE'S SOME THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT I THINK THAT JUST HAVE BEEN BEEN FOR SO LONG. NO ONE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN THAT UP AND TO BE MORE CLEAR BOTH THE CITY AND THE POLICY BOARD AND THE LEASE ABOUT WHO IS

RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT. >> DOES THAT LEAVE ANYTHING OUT?

>> NO, SIR. >> I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT. JUST TRY TO FIND DIRECTION HOW YOU WANT THE MPO TO FUNCTION AND MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO MOVE FORWARD. AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

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WITHOUT THE CITY'S HELP, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO MY

JOB. >> RIGHT.

AND WE DON'T WANTED TO LOSE THE CONNECTION BECAUSE THE WAY MPO WAS ESTABLISHED IT'S A PART OF THE CITY OF ABILENE BECAUSE THE CITY OF ABILENE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MBO.

WE BENEFITTED FROM IT. THR ASPECT AND THE FINANCIALS A SECOND OF HANDLING OF THINGS. BECAUSE WE'RE UNDER THE FINANCE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THE GENERALLY ACCEPTED COUNTY PRINCIPLES AND HANDING THINGS WITH COUPLE OF SIGNATURES AND ANY OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THAT'S FINE.

IF WE'RE TALKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SERVICES THEY CAN PROVIDE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THE RULES THAT HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED BY EVERYONE DOING THAT. EVERYONE IS TREATED THE SAME.

THAT'S ANOTHER BENEFIT THE MPO SHARES WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE.

>> IT WOULD BE REMISS IN SAYING THE MPO DOES PROVIDE FUNCTION BACK TO CITY FOR PLANNING FUNCTIONS AND DOING STUDIES AND DIFFERENT THINGS. IT'S A MUTUAL PARTNERSHIP HERE.

MY QUESTION IS. IS THERE -- WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU WANTS US TO MOVE AS FAR AS WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP.

IS THIS SOMETHING I GO TO THE BOARD TO OR SEE TO OR

>> THIS THE CARL JOHNSON. I GUESS I'M A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR WHAT QUESTIONS ARE UNANSWERED. IF CITY RESPONDS, DID A GOOD JOB OF OUTLINING THE FINANCE PURCHASING HR AND SUCH.

BUT DO WE -- THIS IS JUST A FIRST LOOK AT THIS BOTH TODAY.

IT APPEARS WE'RE LOOKING TO DESIGNATE A SUPERVISOR FOR YOU.

THAT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME. SO THAT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE OFF AND DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO, YOU HAVE A PERSON TO GO TO FOR THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO GO TO THE BOARD, EVERY BOARD MEETING TO ASK FOR DAILY OPERATIONAL ISSUES. I GUESS I'M WONDERING WHAT QUESTIONS ARE STILL UNANSWERED HERE?

>> AND CARL, THIS IS JUDGE BOLLS AGAIN.

IN THE BRIEF CONVERSATION I HAD MAYOR SPURGIN AFTER THE LAST MEETING. HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT KRA THAT VACANCY NOT BEING FILLED. NO ONE TOLD US ABOUT IT.

WE JUST SORT OF FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.

THAT WAS I THINK HIS CONCERN AND IT'S MINE TOO.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY LOSING CONTROL.

THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS. I WANT TO BE SURE THEY'RE DELINEATION OF WHO WILL HAVE WHAT RESPONSIBILITY.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT I SAW OUT OF CONTROL.

OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. I THINK JUST UNFILLED POSITION

AND IT WAS HIRING THE PLACE. >> HIS QUESTIONS WERE BASICALLY SIMPLE INQUIRY. WHY DID WE HAVE TO NOT FILL THAT POSITION. IT'S AN EMPTY POSITION.

[INAUDIBLE] I'M THRILLED THAT GOT FILLED.

I SEE THAT THE SAME WAY. LET ME ASK LISA.

OH DO YOU GO NOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE VACATION?

LET'S USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. >> IF I DO VACATION OR SICK LEAVE OR ANY CHECK REQUEST BEING SIGNED.

THOSE ALL GO THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS THROUGH GREG.

>> YOU ALL SAID THAT A WHILE AGO.

ALL RIGHT. >> I THINK MAYBE WE NEED MY FIRST THOUGHT IS TO TABLE THIS UNTIL NEXT MEETING SO MAYBE WE HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE THE HOLES MIGHT BE THAT MAKE MBO DIRECTOR UNCOME RELEVANT AND MAYBE WE CAN TACKLE THOSE.

I THINK AS A GENERAL WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS APPROPRIATE, THE POSITIONS IN THE MPO STAFF WORK UNDER THE CITY PROTOCOLS.

PLANE WE HAVE FEW EXCEPTIONS TO MAKE THAT MORE EFFICIENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE TODAY.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MAKING THAT DECISION RIGHT NOW.

>> OKAY. >> COUNSELOR, ONE OTHER THING,

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ALSO, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW FOR THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE FUNDING AND TRY THE FIGURE OUT THE SAL RAE THAT'S ONE THING I DON'T KNOW ON WHAT PARTICULAR ITEM UNTIL OCTOBER. IF THE CITY AND I THINK MR. PRICE IS ONBOARD. IF HE WANTED TO CHIME IN.

I THINK THE CITY WAS LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON THAT ON MAKING A DECISION ON THE SALARY OR ALLOWING ME TO DO THAT SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THAT POSITION. THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM BEING DELAYED.

>> ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT?

>> WITH REGARD TO -- >> YEAH.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION TO WORK FROM.

THE SALARY THAT WE WERING THE LAST PERSON MAY OR MAY NOT BE

APPROPRIATE FOR A NEW PERSON >> I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION.

NORMALLY WHAT I DO IN MY ORGANIZATION I LOOK AT THE POSITIONS ACROSS THE STATE AND I SEE WHAT THE AVERAGE SALARY IS PAYING WHAT THE JOB RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AND MAKE A DETERMINATION ON SALARY. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DELEGATING THAT TO YOU MR. CHAIRMAN TO MAKE THAT DECISION OUTSIDE THIS MEETING. BUT I DON'T FEEL I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT TODAY.

SOMEONE SENT ME SOMETHING THAT I MISSED.

>> WE HAVE TO CHIME IN AS WELL. THE WAY THE AGENDA IS WRITTEN.

WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE SALARY PER SE.

IT'S MORE ABOUT THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.

EVEN IF WE WANTED TO MAKE A POSITION ON THE SALARY.

I DON'T THINK WE COULD GIVE DIRECTION ON THAT.

WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT. CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES. WE CAN HEAR YOU.

HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO FINDING A CANDIDATE.

DO WE HAVE A CONDITION THAT WE READY TO MAKE AN OFFER TO?

>> WE DO. LET ME EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. THIS DOES HAVE TO DO ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE AND THE REASON IT DOES IS IN THE PAST BASICALLY THE WAY THE CITY PROCESS WORKS IS THAT IF YOU OFFER ABOVE THE MINIMUM THEN IT THOSE HAVE THE CITY MANAGER'S OR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER'S APPROVAL ON IT.

THAT'S ONE THING WE LOOK AT ON THIS PARTICULAR PERSON.

THE RANGE WAS FROM 45 TO 65 IS WHAT THE JOB WAS POSTED AT.

IN THIS REGARDS, IF I'M NOT GOING THROUGH THE CITY TO GET PERMISSION TO RAISE IT ABOVE THE MINIMUM, THEN I'M LOOKING FOR A PROCESS. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE FOUND OUT. THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T SUBMITTED OUT AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION FROM FRONT OF YOU.

WE WERE WORKING THROUGH NORMAL PROCESS.

IF THAT'S CHANGING, THEN THAT'S GOING TO PUT A KINK IN OUR PLANS

IN GETTING THIS PERSON HONORED. >> MR. PRICE IS ONBOARD AND HE'S ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO

THE PROCESS. >> YOU ARE SAYING THE CITY POLICY WOULD BE IF YOU WANTED TO OFFER 46,000 THAT'S 1,000 ABOVE THE MINIMUM IT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER.

>> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF THEY DON'T START AT THE MINUTUM.

I WOULD ASK MR. PRICE TO RESPOND TO THAT.

HE WOULD HAVE MORE DETAILS THAN I WOULD ABOUT THAT.

THE ANSWER IS YES. WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES IF A DECISION WAS TO HIRE SOMEONE ABOVE ENTRY LEVEL IT DOES REQUIRE APPROVAL BETWEEN THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OR CITY MANAGERS. AND THIS JUST CHECKS AND BALANCES, BECAUSE PAYROLL ONE OF THE BIGGEST EXPENSES.

HOWEVER AS MPO FUNCTION I'M UNCOMFORTABLE APPROVING DAUGH DAUGHTERING -- DOLLARS.

>> I WOULD REALLY NOT LIKE THAT. I APPRECIATE MR. PRICE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THAT I WOULD I GUESS MY THOUGHT TODAY WOULD BE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DIRECTOR RECOMMEND AN APPLICANT STRUCTURE INTACT AND MAYBE BENEFITS THAT GO WITH THAT OR WHAT NOT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. FOR THE BOARD TO REVIEW AND THEN TAKE ACTION ON. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SPECIAL MEETING BEFORE THE NEXT ONE TO GET THAT DONE.

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OR JUST WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO US TO ASK US TO MAKE A JUDGMENT CALL TODAY WITHOUT ANY MORE INFORMATION THAN WHAT WE HAVE.

>> WITH REGARD TO THE DIRECTION FOR THE ITEM BEFORE US YOU WOULD TAKE THE BOARD STRUCTURE IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE DECISIONS ARE MADE WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE POLICY BOARD.

INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE CITY FOR THAT APPROVAL.

>> OKAY. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING?

>> OKAY. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THE WAY THAT THE CURRENT MOU IS IN PLACE THE BOARD HIRES THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THEN THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HIRES THE ADDITIONAL STAFF. THIS WHAT WE TALK ABOUT RIGHT HERE IS JUST MORE OF AN OPERATIONAL THE SALARY IS BECAUSE OF THE PROCESSES IN PACE OF THE CITY.

THE SALARY IF IT WERE ASKING ABOVE THE MINIMUM WHAT I WOULD LAKE TO OFFER THIS PERSON. THEN I WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WAY THE POLICY CURRENTLY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY. BUT IF THIS IS A CHANGE, AS I SAID WE DO HAVE AN APPLICATION ONBOARD.

WE CAN HAVE A MEETING. THE WAY THE MOU IS WROTE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DOES HIRE THE POSITION AND HIRED THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THAT'S THE WAY I RECALL.

POLICY BOARD SETS THE BUDGET FOR THE POSITION TOO.

I THINK THAT'S THE POINT THAT CARL TRYING TO MAKE THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH ONE OF THE SELECT PERSON.

HE IS BEING ASKED TO SET UP SALARY WITHOUT HAVING INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IS THIS POSITION LOOK LIKE IN OTHER AREAS AROUND THE STATE. FOR A STARTING POSITION.

APPROVING A SALARY, THAT WOULD BE FUTURE MEETING WHERE WE HAVE THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WHAT WE NEED TO DO TODAY IS ADDRESS THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE AND SAY THAT, THAT THE WAY THAT DECISION GETS MADE IS WITH SALARY APPROVAL BY POLICY BOARD. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU

CORRECTLY, CARL. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

YES. >> OKAY.

IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE BOARD TO SET SALARIES ON MPO STAFF. AND THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE ITEMS I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER THAT WE CAN CLARIFY IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY ANY MORE SO TO SPEAK.

YOU WANT US TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT.

THE SIMPLEST WAY TO EXPLAIN WHAT RELATIONSHIP IS THAT WE SEE AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WHAT YOU DO, WHERE YOU GO, THAT FOR THE MPO POLICY BOARD. HOW MUCH YOU PAY, YOU CAN DECIDE. THE VEHICLE ON HOW TO GET THERE.

THAT'S WHEN THE CITY PROVIDES SUPPORT.

WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THE HIRING PROCESS PROTECTS THE MPO POLICY BOARD AND THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT IN VIOLATION OF A STATE LAW AND HIRING PRACTICES.

THAT THE DECISION ON WHO YOU HIRE AND HOW MUCH YOU PAY WILL BE STRICTLY BOARD. THAT DOES DIRECTLY AFFORD THE STATUS. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND.

>> OKAY. I THINK THAT'S WELL PUT.

>> THE OTHER -- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER VACATION TIME ANYTIME SOON IN THE OTHER ASPECT WAS APPROVAL OF VACATION. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, THE CHAIRMAN? WHOEVER IS CHAIRMAN AT THE TIME OR THE FULL POLICY BOARD? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT CARL?

>> MY THOUGHT WOULD BE I THINK THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

THOSE WOULD BE WHAT I CALL DAILY PERSONAL DECISIONS.

I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT.

ASKING YOU THE CHAIRMAN TO DO THAT OR ANY CHAIRMAN IN THE

FUTURE. >> ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S APPROPRIATED TO ME. >> KELLY, BASED ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE HAD DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDED WORDING FOR IT? STRUCTURE FOR THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE

COMPILING. >> BEGINNING OF THIS DISCUSSION, THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MPO AND THE CITY.

AND REALLY -- I DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LOOK AT VACATION

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AND THAT SORT OF THING. WHAT I UNDERSTAND ALMOST LIKE A DRAMATIC POSITION. NOT REALLY DIRECTED AT THE CITY BUT DOESN'T HAVE A WAY TO ANSWER TO OTHER THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY POLICY. THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW UNLESS THE DECISION MAKE YOU DO IT DIFFERENTLY.

THE WAY WRITTEN NOW IT WILL BE FN AS LONG AS THE CHANGES STAY WITHIN THE BROAD -- AGREEMENT WRITTEN BROADLY.

THE CITY -- THE WAY AGREEMENT WRITTEN IS CITY IS IN CHARGE OF DISCIPLINE AS TO THE APPLICATION OF CITY POLICY.

IF SOMEONE VIOLATES CITY POLICY AND HIRING PRACTICES OR SOMETHING LIKE. THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN THE CITY WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THAT DISCIPLINE.

IF IT'S AS FAR AS MAKING DECISIONS AND WORK PRODUCT PERFORMANCE AND ALL OF THE THAT. ALL OF THAT IS THE MPO.

AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS DISCUSSION, I LOOKED AT THE AGREEMENT AND I THOUGHT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE.

IF WE'RE BASICALLY TAKING OUT THE OVERSIGHT OF THE DIRECTOR SORT OF AS LONG AS THE CITY POLICIES ARE FOLLOWED AND ULTIMATELY THE CITY HAS THAT ABILITY TO HIRE -- NOT TO HIRE.

DISCIPLINE WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY POLICY FUNCTIONS.

BASICALLY MAKING SURE CITY POLICY IS FOLLOWED SO THAT THERE'S NO LIABILITY. AND HAVE ALL OF THE BENEFITS, THE CITY BENEFITS OF THE CITY EMPLOYEE AND ALL OF THAT.

I DON'T PERCEIVE THAT AN AGREEMENT HAVING TO CHANGE.

BASICALLY WE NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT AS A POLICY BOARD THA WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THINGS WORK IN A SPECIFIC WAY WITHIN THE BORDER GUIDELINES OF THE EXISTING POLICY THE STRUCTURE.

IT'S CLEAR TO THE CITY AND CLEAR TO US WHO IS DOING WHAT.

SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARD TO VACATION.

SHE CAN GET APPROVED FROM THAT FROM THE CHAIRMAN.

AND SOME OF THE SALARIES FOR THE POSITIONS SHE MAY HIRE FOR THAT'S A DECISION THAT IS BROUGHT BEFORE THE POLICY BOARD.

YES. >> INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE

CITY MANAGER. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE.

AS LONG AS -- WELL -- I GUESS MY QUESTION IS.

THE CRUX OF THERE'S THAT STATEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS CONTROL OVER THE PRELIMINARY MATTERS REGARDING THE MPO POLICY WHICH ESSENTIALLY CITY POLICY. IT COMES TO WANTING FOR EXAMPLE THE CITY USED TO HAVE PHYSICAL. AND NOW EVERYTHING IS MOVED TO ONLINE SYSTEM. AS FAR AS FOLLOWING ALL OF THE RULES ABOUT PAYROLL AND ALL OF THAT.

AND EVEN REALLY HIRING AND THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

EN AS THE CITY; I WOULD RECOMMEND ANYTHING I WOULD RECOMMEND THEM IN PLACE. GET THE ABILITY ARE NOT REQUIRING CITY EMPLOYERS TO FOLLOW POLICY.

I THINK THE AGREEMENT. AGREEMENT DOESN'T NEED TO CHANGE. YOU DON'T NEED ANY LANGUAGE OTHER THAN VERBAL OR APPROVING YOU KNOW A DISCUSSION THAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH. SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARD TO ASPECT THAT MICHAEL RICE COVERED THAT ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE POSITION THAT ARE OFFERED ABOVE THE BASE OR THE LOWEST DOLLAR AMOUNT WITHIN THE RANGE. IS THERE A CHANGE THAT HAS TO BE FORMALLY DONE TO ALLOW THAT DECISION TO BE MADE BY THE

POLICY BOARD INSTEAD? >> I'M THINKING -- WHAT I'M

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THINKING RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE POLICY DECISION THAT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION MAKES. THEY MAKE THE POLICY.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE AGREEMENT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ROBERT NEEDS TO DO OR TAKE TO COUNTY.

>> IT USUALLY MATTERS POLICY I DON'T KNOW I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE WHERE IT IS WRITTEN IN THE POLICIES AND MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE EXCEPTION.

I JUST I'M THINKING IF IT'S A POLICY DECISION AS LONG AS CITY.

WHAT I UNDERSTAND NOTHING BOTHER AGREEMENT BEING CONSIDERED.

WE LOOK HOW TO DO THAT. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE BOARD THAT HAS CONCERNS ABOUT CHANGING THE REQUESTING THAT THE CITY MANAGER ADDRESS ANY EXISTING REQUIREMENTS TO FREE UP THE DIRECTOR TO THE POLICY BOARD INSTEAD OF THE CITY MANAGER ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POSITION FOR THE FUNDING.

MR. CHAIRMAN. LET ME GO TO THE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY MR. RYCE A MINUTE. THIS IS TWO-PAGE LETTER.

THIS TOWN HERE IS SUMMARY AND WHICH THERE INCLUDES THREE OPTION AVAILABLE TO MPO POLICY BOARD TO CONSIDER CONCERNING USE OF STAFF REPORT AND THEIR ASSOCIATED CHECKS AND BALANCE.

THE FIRST ONE HE OFFERS MPO MAY IS FINANCE RERELATED HUMAN RESOURCE IT AND OR LEGAL ISSUE TO MPO POLICY BOARD OR APPOINTEE OR APPROVAL PRIOR TO CITY ACTION.

IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HER.

>> IS THAT THE DECISION WE'RE LOOKING AT?

>> I WAS REREADING THE ATTACHMENT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU HEARING? >> I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT SOME OF THE SOMETHINGS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FINANCIAL AID AND HUMAN RESOURCE OR LEGAL ISSUES. IF I HAVE TO CALL A FULL POLICY BOARD MEETING SOME OF THESE ISSUE MIGHT CREATE A PROBLEM.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE JUST TO LET ALL BE AWARE

OF IT. >> THE OTHER APPOINTEE.

THE BOARD CAN APPOINT THE CHAIR. IF I HAD TO CALL FULL BOARD MEETING THAT MAY PRESENT SOME PROBLEMS. I DON'T KNOW. I TRY TO LOOK WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE IN WRITING. THAT REALLY SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE

ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS WHOLE THING TODAY EITHER.

>> WE CAN GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I THINK OUR LEASE LOOK SPECIFICALLY FOR AN ANSWER WITH REGARD TO THE HIRING QUESTIONS AND HOW THAT FITS WITHIN THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.

WHAT I'M HEARING FROM KELLY MESSER THERE'S REALLY NOT ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE WITHIN THE DOCUMENTS.

FOR WHAT SHE IS SEEING RIGHT NOW IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE POLICY BOARD TO MAKE THAT DECISION. MR. CHAIRMAN.

THIS IS JUDGE BOLLS. I WOULD FOLLOW THAT I THINK ARNOLD HAD GOOD CONCERNS TO POINT OUT.

>> ANY FURTHER THAN WHAT WE KNOW.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN PRELIMINARY NUMBERS OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO CONCUR WITH HIS THOUGHTS ON THAT. I DON'T THINK I'M -- I HAVEN'T SEEN ENOUGH YET TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT

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PARTICULARS A SPEBLTH OF THIS. >> I HAVE THE LANGUAGE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THE PART I'M TALKING ABOUT.

>> UNDER NUMBER FOUR. PERSONAL ARTICLE V THE EVALUATION INTERPRETATION OF THE MPO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FULL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BOARD ACCEPT FOR OTHER LAWS DELEGATING INTO THE CITY. AND HAS THE DISPRELIMINARY ACTION AS FOLLOWS. I THINK THE IDEA THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HIRES THE EMPLOYEES. BECAUSE IT ONLY ADDRESSES THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. A, THE CITY MPO PHYSICAL AGENT AND THE EMPLOYER OF RECORD. ALL AUTHORITY IN RESPONSIBILITY FOR DISPRELIMINARY ACTION INCLUDING DETERMINATION ARISING FROM THE VIOLATION OF MPO'S POLICY AND PROCEDURES UNRELATED TO WORK PRODUCT. THE CITY SHALL FIND THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD DISCIPLINARY ACTION.

THE MPO POLICIES I THINK THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED IN THE CITY POLICIES. YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THAT IS IF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CITY EMPLOYEE THAT SIMPLY PROTECTS THE CITY AS THE EMPLOYER.

IF SOMETHING CHANGES BEYOND THAT SCOPE.

WE COULD NEED TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT OR IF THE BOARD WANTS TO DISCUSS PUTTING MORE SPECIFICITY INTO THE AGREEMENT, WE CAN. BUT LOOKING AT THAT.

YOU KNOW THERE'S MORE THAN ONE WAY.

WITHIN THIS PARAMETER ALSO. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE AS LONG AS THE MPO MAINTAINS THAT ROLE. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SHE ANSWERING TO A DIRECTOR OR THOSE POLICY AS LONG AS IF CITY MAINTAINS THAT DIRECTION. WHAT I HEAR THAT THE AGREEMENT IS SILENT. WITH REGARDS TO THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOCUSED ON TODAY.

>> THE SALARY QUESTION. >> RIGHT.

>> WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO CHANGE THE STRUCTURE.

WE JUST HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL AND SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HAPPEN ON HOW ITS HANDLED.

THE CITY HAS TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR THINGS THAT

COULD GO EITHER WAY. >> LOOK AT MPO POLICY AND PROCEDURES MANUAL. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT THAT MIGHT SPECIFY HOW THE HIRING PROCEDURES ARE THE CITY OF ABILENES POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. WE TOOK THE -- WHENEVER THAT CAME UP, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED US TO USE THAT AS OUR MPO.

>> OKAY. >> THERE MAY HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF EXECUTIVE -- SOME KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTOR THAT MAKES AN EXCEPTION FOR THIS SO YOU ARE WITHIN CITY POLICY.

I DON'T KNOW THE CITY WOULD WANT TO CHANGE THIS BROAD FORMAT ANY WAY. THAT'S WHAT THIS AGREEMENT.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS IS DALE SPURGIN.

I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE. I GOT IN ON THE MIDDLE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM. I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR IS DESCRIBED ACCURATELY. THE AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED AND SET OUT YEARS AGO AND ITS WORKED OVER FOR YEARS TRYING TO GET TO AGREEMENT. I THINK WE SHOULD AVOID TRYING TO CHANGE THE AGREEMENT THE WAY ITS WORDED.

I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH BACK TXDOT AND AUSTIN AND EVERYONE ELSE IF WE GO TO WORKING ON CHANGING THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN MPO AND CITY OF ABILENE.

MPO POLICY BOARD -- THE POLICY MANUAL IS CITY OF ABILENE.

WE ADOPTED THE CITY OF ABILENES MPO.

BUT ALSO FISCAL AGENT AND LEGAL RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE CITY BEING FISCAL AGENT, WE NEED TO MAKE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE'S POLICY. RELATED TO EMPLOYEES.

I'M CURIOUS THIS LANGUAGE OF THESE THREE OPTIONS THAT JUDGE

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BOLLS POINTS OUT I JUST WANT TO REEMPHASIZE THE -- WE APPRECIATE THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF ABILENE.

MPO IS AN INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION WITH OUR OWN FUNDING. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CITY FUNDING.

HOW THEY ARE LAID OUT WITH OUT ANY ACTION.

I'M CURIOUS AS WHAT APPROVAL CITY ACTION.

MAYBE I MISSED THE CONVERSATION BY GETTING IN LATE.

CAN SOMEONE DESCRIBE TO ME WHAT ACTION IS CITY HAS TO TAKE SOME

OF THESE ISSUES? >> LET ME ADDRESS THAT WITH REGARD TO HIRING YOU ARE TRYING TO DO.

I CAN. >> THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE CURRENTLY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING POSITION IN PARTICULAR WE WENT THROUGH HIRING PROCESS.

WE HAD XHILT PUT TOGETHER. COMMITTEE INTERVIEWED APPLICANT AND THEY COME UP SELECTION FOR PLANNER.

WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING ABLE TO -- THE APPLICATION TO OFFER HIM THE JOB. BUT THE PROBLEM THAT CAME THIS IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO START HIM ABOVE THE MINIMUM, BY THE JOB ITSELF WAS 45 TO 65,000. AND THAT WAS FOR TRANSPORTATION ONE, TWO OR THREE. IN THIS LAR PERSON WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER HIM MORE MONEY. IN ORDER TO DO THE CITY POLICY PERFORMANCE GOES THROUGH THE ASSESSANT CITY MANAGER ARE THE CITY MANAGER TO GET THAT AUTHORIZED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE PROCESS. WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THE POSITION. UNTIL WE GET THIS CLARIFIED.

>> THIS THE DALE SPURGIN. IS THIS AN MPO EMPLOYEE OR CITY

OF ABILENE EMPLOYEE? >>

>> WELL, THE MPO EMPLOYEES ARE ALL CONSIDERED CITY OF ABILENE.

ALL THE SAME REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY STAFF.

BUT THE REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD.

IT'S BOTH. I GUESS IS THE WAY TO ANSWER

THAT. >> MY TERMSES THEIR MPO EMPLOYEE THAT WE OFFER THE SAME BENEFIT PACKAGE THE CITY OF ABILENE

OFFERED. >> SO WE ARE CONSISTENT.

THIS IS AN MPO EMPLOYEE. THAT I THINK FROM A AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE THIS AUTHORITY TO HIRE ON THIS COMMITTEE.

THAT DID THE INTERVIEWING. I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU IT'S THE MPO FUNDS THAT THEY USED TO PAY THIS EMPLOYEE AN MPO EMPLOYEE THAT'S A POLICY BOARD DECISION AS TO WHAT WE WANT THE BUDGET

AND FUND STAFF POSITIONS >> THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERED THE CONVERSATION. THE CITY OF ABILENE ARE UNCOMFORTABLE BEING IN THE POSITION WHERE THEY MAKE THIS DECISION. THE WAY THAT MPO'S POLICY MANUAL IS BASED ON THE CITY'S POLICY MAN YOU WHICH HAS REQUIREMENT IN IT. HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CLARIFYING THAT DISTINCTION THAT THE POSITION THAT ALIAS HIRING SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A I PROFESSIONAL PROCESS WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY MANAGER OR ASSISTANT CITY

MANAGER. >> I THINK IT'S INTERPRETATION OF WHAT THE AGREEMENT SAID. I ASSUME EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN OPINION AS TO WHAT THAT AGREEMENT SAY.

I WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN WE HAD THE BATTLE TO GET TO THIS AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE. I DIDN'T INTERPRET IT THAT THE CITY HAD THAT KIND OF ROLE. WE WERE SIMPLY GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY. REQUIREMENTS OF HOW THE EMPLOYEE CONDUCTS THEMSELVES NOT VIOLATING THE CITY POLICY NOT GETTING INTO STRUCTURE THE CITY SET OUT AS FAR AS HIRING.

WHICH ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO POSITIONS.

I'VE INTERPRETED THAT WAY WHEN APPROVED.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I CAN REMEMBER OF THIS PROCESS PREVIOUSLY.

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I THINK WE'RE WAY OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS AND I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THE MPO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THE DECISION OF WHAT THE PERSON IS OFFERED. MPO FUNDS AND CAN MAKE THAT DECISION ON OUR OWN

>> TWO THINGS HERE. ONE IS THAT THE IT'S NOT THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND MPO.

IT'S THE POLICY FOR THE MPO IS CITY OF ABILENE POLICY MANUAL.

THAT'S WHERE THE REQUIREMENT ASPECT IS COMING IN.

THE SECONDARY QUESTION IS IF THE DECISION FOR HOW MUCH THE DECISION GETS PAID. SOMETHING ALIAS SET AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR THEY SET AS PART OF THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THE BUDGET BUT ALSO SPECIFIC GUIDANCE WITH REGARD TO SALARY FOR POSITION

BELOW. >> WHAT I SAID.

IT'S A BUDGET ISSUE. THE MPO BOARD HAS TO MAKE A

DECISION ON IT. >> CARL WAS MAKING HIS COMMENTS AS WELL. WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION AT THIS POINT. WITH A SIMILAR POSITION PAID AND OTHER MPO AROUND THE STATE MAKE A DECISION OR PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON WHAT FUNDING SHOULD BE TO THE POSITION.

BUT I KEEP STRAYING INTO THAT SPECIFIC EXAMPLE AND THE CHALLENGE IS THAT'S NOT WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

THE AGENDA IS NOT WHAT THE SALARY SHOULD BE.

THE AGENDA HOW THE DECISION GET MADE ON WHAT THE SALARY IS AND WHO MAKES THAT DECISION. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT. AND MAKE SURE WE TAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTION TODAY SO THAT WHAT THE CITY WANTS FOR US AS POLICY BOARD TO TAKE THIS MATTER BE THE RESPONSIBLE AGENT.

AND WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS WE WANT TO BE THE ONES TO DO THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE FINISHED WITH THE ITEM WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT BOTH PARTIES ACTUALLY WANT. IT'S SOUND LIKE THE POLICY MANUAL WRITTEN THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY MANAGER. AND THE EXCEPTION NEEDS TO BE MADE IN THAT MANUAL. THAT'S SOMETHING HE COULD DO.

ROBERT CAN DO. THE CITY MANAGER ISSUE ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTOR TO MODIFY THAT, SINCE WE ADOPTED AS IS. AS MPO FOR OUR POLICY MANUAL, THEN THAT WOULD REFLECT THE CHANGE FOR US IMMEDIATELY.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. >> YES.

>> CAN WE GO AHEAD. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY I DON'T HAVE THE POLICY MANUAL IN FRONT OF ME TO SEE WHAT'S REQUIRED.

I KIND VIEW AS ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTOR AS HOW POLICY CAN BE CHANGED. OR YOU CAN CHANGE A POLICY MANUAL IF IT REQUIRES APATROL. THEN YOU KNOW I KNOW MICHAEL IS STILL HERE AND CAN SPEAK BETTER THAN I CAN.

MAYBE SOMETHING HAPPEN IN THE CASE LIKE THIS WHERE IF BOARD SAID WE WANT TO SPEND THIS MUCH MONEY ON SALARY.

AND HE SAID FINE. AAPROVE IT SO IT'S LEGAL.

I DON'T THINK AS MUCH AS THE OPINION THAT BECOME A CONCERN.

THE CITY WANTING TO TAKE THE PROCESSES.

IF YOU WORK TOGETHER LIKE THAT. MPO MAKES THAT KIND OF DECISION AND APPROVED IT. THEN IT MAY BE A LONG ISSUE.

I DON'T WANT TO -- DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MICHAEL.

LET ME JUST WEIGH IN. THE CITY WOULD TAKE AN E-MAIL FROM YOU SAYING WE WANT TO HIRE THIS PERSON AT THIS RATE AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH THE GUY MAKES.

WHO YOU PICK. WE ARE WARNING TO MAKE SURE THE HIRING PROCESS. THAT'S ALL WE'RE CONCERNED

ABOUT. >> MR. CHAIR.

YES, SIR. >> COUPLE OF THOUGHT.

I LIKE WHAT WAS SAID. BUT I THINK WE COULD DO THE OPPOSITE. I LIKE THE IDEA OF ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTOR BY THE CITY MANAGER THAT OUTLINES

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MATTERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MPO, THE BOARD WILL DECIDE SALARIES FROM EMPLOYEES.

THE BOARD WILL DECIDE X, Y, Z AND ADD TO MANUAL AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE. THAT WAY THE BOARD DOESN'T MAKE A VOTE ON SOMETHING HAVING TO DO WITH OUR MONEY, OUR BUDGET AND WAITING ON CITY APPROVAL. I THINK IN THE CLIMATE TODAY, I DON'T THINK THAT APATROL WOULD BE ANY ISSUE COMING FROM THE CITY. TEN YEARS FROM NOW WHEN WE ARE GONE. HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WILL STAND AS EASILY DONE. I THINK MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT OUTLINING A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO APPROVE. NEW ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVE TO THAT EFFECT AND WE'RE MOVING ON FROM THERE.

>> I AGREE. THAT'S MY COMMENT TOO.

WHAT I HEAR FROM JUDGE SPURGIN ESPECIALLY THAT THIS SHOULD BE A SOLE DECISION BY THE POLICY BOARD NOT A RECOMMENDATION.

FINAL APPROVAL REQUIREMENT FROM THE CITY IF -- I ALSO HAD A THOUGHT. I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY HARDSHIP ON THE CITY AT ANY POINT IN TIME TO WHERE WE HIRED AN EMPLOYEE AND PAID THEM MORE THAN WHAT THE CITY MIGHT HIRE AN EMPLOYEE IN THE SAME JOB TITLE AND PAY THEM LESS.

THAT COULD CREATE SOME ISSUES FOR THE CITY TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT ARE UNNECESSARY. IF IT'S OUTLINED THEY TAKE CARE OF THOSE POSITIONS THE ED THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, AND ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT FOR EXAMPLE.

IT'S UNDERSTOOD BY ANYONE THAT WOULD APPLY FOR THE CITY THAT THE POLICY BOARD TAKES CARE OF THOSE AND THE REST OF THEM ARE CITIES. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MAYBE TAKE THE BURDEN OFF THE CITY IN FUTURE THAT I WOULD HAVE FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

>> AGREE. >> I THINK WE DON'T READY NEED TO CHANGE ORGANIZATION STRUCTURE.

I THINK COULD RE-QWEST CLARIFICATION ADMINISTRATIVE

DIRECTIVE FROM THE CITY. >> JUDGE SPURGIN WAS SAYING AND KELLY WAS SAYING. WOULD BE THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TXDOT AND GO TWLU THE -- THROUGH THE OFFICE TO GET APPROVAL. IS THERE ANY OTHER CONCERNS?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY. I THINK IT SOUNDS GOOD.

>> IF YOU NEED A MOTION HERE. ARE WE LOOKING FOR MOTION FOR

SOMETHING >> WE WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.

THERE'S NOT A MOTION EVEN. >> IF ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, YOU CAN. BUT IF WE LEAVE IT ALONE THERE'S NOT A MOTION NEEDED. DOES SOMEONE MAKE TO MAKE A

MOTION? >> I WILL JUST ASK ALSO IF WE'RE -- IF THE BOARD WILL TAKE ACTION AND WE DO NEED TO SET A MEETING IN THE FUTURE THAT MAY BE A CALLED MEETING.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER AND EXPECT OUR CANDIDATES THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE TO HANG AROUND AND WAIT

THAT LONG. >> I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.

MY POINT WOULD BE IF YOU WOULD RECOMMENDATION AND E-MAIL TO BOARD MEMBERS SO WE CAN REVIEW THAT.

AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE AND WOULD GIVE ME TIME TO DO RESEARCH ON MY END.

JUST TO FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHATEVER IT IS.

AND THEN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A SHORT CALLED MEETING JUST TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT. THIS THE DALE SPURGIN.

WILL THE CITY REQUIRE ACTION TODAY? MICHAEL, DO YOU FEEL COMFORT WHAT YOU HEARD? OR DO YOU NEED DIRECTIVE FROM THE APPEAL BOARD?

>> JUDGE, WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE HAPPY WITH WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU PROVIDE. I WILL TALK WITH ROBERT.

WE SEE IF WE CAN GRAB SOMETHING. WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT WHEN WE JUST PASS SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S

NOT SOME MISUNDERSTANDING. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> MAYBE WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION AT FORMAL MEETING WITH REGARD TO SALARY, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE LANGUAGE.

DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? >> YES.

>> OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A TIME FRAME? THAT YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND OR SUGGEST FOR THE CALLED MEETING?

>> AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE GOT -- WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GOT A GOOD CANDIDATE.

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I WOULD HATE TO LOSE THEM. >> WHAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE MEAN? LIKE 72 HOURS FROM NOW?

>> IF WE COULD DO IT NEXT WEEK THAT WOULD TIME TO GET THE POSTING DONE. SOMETIME NEXT WEEK WHATEVER TIME IS GOOD FOR YOU ALL. MINE IS PRETTY OPEN.

>> SEPTEMBER 1ST. HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR PEOPLE?

>> PROBABLY. I NEED A DAY OR TWO TO LOOK INTO

HIRING RECOMMENDATION. >> WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE

THAT TO US ALIAS? >> I COULD GET THAT TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON. I HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION.

I WILL SEND WHAT I PROVIDED TO THEM TO YOU ALL.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> IF WE HAVE THAT TODAY, CARL,

DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU? >> SEPTEMBER 1ST.

>> YES. >> YES.

TIED UP FROM 1:30 TO 4:00. >> SO 11:00 A.M.?

>> YES, SIR. >> SPURGIN?

>> I WILL MAKE THAT WORK. I CAN MAKE THAT WORK.

>> BOLLS? >> I DON'T THINK IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME. I WILL CHECK MY SCHEDULE TO BE SURE. JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOW IT

GOES. >> OKAY.

MONDAY ARE USUALLY BUSY DAYS FOR YOU.

>> YEAH. AND TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY, TOO. PROBABLY TO CLEAN UP ANYTHING ELSE WE MISSED DURING THE WEEKEND.

[LAUGHTER] >> WHAT I HEAR IS THAT WE SHOULD ENOUGH FOR QUORUM AT LEAST ON TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 1ST AT 11:00

A.M. >> YES, SIR.

>> THERE'S TWO ITEMS. THE SALARY RANGE AND THE

DIRECTIVE FROM THE CITY. >> YES.

>> OKAY. I THINK WE'VE -- IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE?

>> >> NO.

[6. Discussion and review of transportation projects. (By TxDOT Staff, City Staff, CityLink Staff)]

MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX WHICH DISCUSSION AND REVIEW OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. FIRST WE'LL HAVE PAUL FROM TXDOT. FIRST UP WE -- CAN EVERYONE HEAR

ME OKAY? >> YES.

>> FIRST UP WE'VE GOT [INAUDIBLE] 707 TO Y PROJECT. CONSTRUCTION GRADE SEPARATION.

PROJECT GOING WELL. WE'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE ON IT.

RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE OUR FOUNDATIONS IN.

THEY ARE COMING UP ON THE BRIDGE.

THE MAJORITY OF THAT FINAL SURFACE THE PLACED IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROJECT. THE SOUTHERN PORTION IS NEARLY COMPLETE. COMPLETION EXPECTED IN 2021.

WE'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE MORE THAN LIKELY EARLY SUMMER.

THE SECOND PROJECT ON THE LIST U.S. 83 FRONTAGE ROAD FROM SOUTH 14TH TO THE INTERCHANGE.

PROPERTY GOING WELL RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE PAINTING ON THE SECOND OF THE THREE PHASES RIGHT NOW. THERE WAS A FROM TREAD WAY TO I-20. THAT SIGNAL SIDEWALK AND CURB RAMPS. PROJECT GOING WELL.

THEY APPROACHING THE AREA. WE DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH IT.

THE NEXT THREE ARE NEW PROJECTS COMING UP.

LANDSCAPING PROJECT WITH ENCINO LANDSCAPING.

THIS IS OUR VEHICLE PROJECT. WE HAVE PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING

TOMORROW. >> THE NEXT ONE IS 384 FRONTAGE ROAD FROM 707 TO HEMPLEY ROAD. THIS IS THE SINGLE FRONTAGE ROAD

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EXTENSION.

THAT'S SINCE THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER.

THAT WILL INCLUDE A SIGNAL. FINAL PROJECT ON THE LIST 1750 AT INDUSTRIAL ELEMENTARY 22BODE. THIS IS A FLASHING BEACON PROJECT GOING. WILLIST ELECTRIC AWARDED THE CONDUCT AND IT'S ALSO SCHEDULED TO BE LANDSCAPING. WHERE IS THAT PROJECT?

>> IT'S SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

ONE OF THE LOCATIONS F-99 IN FRONT OF STARBUCKS.

ONE OF THEM BY THE ENTRANCE THEY ARE OFF SET OF

>> THE ONE DOWN THE STREET FROM. IT'S BY THE STRIPES ON DOWN THE STREET. OFF SET.

THE OTHER ONE AT THE AIRPORT. >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE MOVE TO CITY OF ABILENE.

SCOTT CHANDLER.

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DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

WELCOME TO ABILENE. WE WILL MOVE TO CITYLINK PRESENTATION. AND BOBBY WILL HAVE THAT.

THIS IS BOBBY SHARP. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES, SIR. GO AHEAD.

OKAY. GOOD.

JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. WE'VE BEEN NOTIFIED BY TXDOT THAT WE ARE AWARDED THE 471,000 DOLLARS IN SERVICE TRANSPORTATION BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR REPLACEMENT OF 6 CUT AWAYS.

THESE FUNDS HAVE BEEN ATTACHED TO THE SECTION 5307 URBAN AREA PROGRAM WHICH WILL ADMINISTERED BY THE TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION.

WE WILL BE UTILIZING THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS AS MATCH FOR THE FUNDED AWARD.

ALSO AS REPORTED EARLIER IN THE YEAR, WE HAD APPLIED FOR SOME PLANNING FUNDS THROUGH TXDOT. WE DID RECEIVE NOTICE THAT WE'VE BEEN AWARDED THE 550,000. FOR ACTIVITY RELATED TO THE CITY OF ABILENE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN THE ABILENE AREA.

ALSO WE'VE BEEN AWARDED THE 90,000 PLANNING FUNDS FOR REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM. WE ACTUALLY SERVE AS LEAD AGENCY IN THE REGION 7 PLANNING AREA. THE FUNDS WILL BE UTILIZED TO HIRE CONSULTANT TO COMPLETE THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN UPDATE DUE IN EARLY 2022. ALSO YOU MAY KNOW THE CITY WAS ALLOCATED 5.1 MILLION IN CARES ACT FUNDS FROM THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION. JUST I GOT TO GIVE EVERYONE AN IDEA WHAT WE LOOK AT. THE MAJORITY FUNDS WILL BE UTILIZED TO SUPPORT OUR OPERATIONS AND PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. BUT WE'VE ALSO GOT 1.2 MILLION BUSTED OUT FOR CAPITAL PROJECT. AND ONE OF THEM WILL BE THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARKING IN THE ADJACENT LOT SOUTH OF OUR CURRENT BUS YARD. THAT PROJECT WILL BE WITHIN THE UPDATED TIP WHEN WE GET TO THAT TIP CYCLE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. ALSO ANOTHER ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE UNDERTAKING IS THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF TEN BUS SHELTERS PLACED ALONG OUR ROUTES.

THE SHELTERS ARE ALWAYS KIND OF HOT TOPIC ITEM IN THIS HERE AREA. WE LOOK FORWARD TO ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE GOT BUDGETED OUT.

WILL BE HERE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO BUS SHELTERS.

HAVE YOU DECIDED THE LOCATIONS FOR THOSE? AND WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME FOR THEM?

>> LIKE SIX MONTHS OUT? >> A YEAR OUT?

>> WE HAVE COME UP WITH -- WE'VE GOT 13 LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE OUTLINED. THEY ARE IN I GUESS MAYBE A SECOND STAGE AS FAR AS PROPOSED THE NEXT STEP THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THESE 13 PROPOSED LOCATIONS WERE TO PRESENT IT TO THE CITY'S ADVISORY BOARD, PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, GET THEIR TAKE ON IT. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN SOME TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD. THERE'S A POSITION THAT WE DO BEFORE WE END UP TAKING IT TO CITY COUNCIL.

THE PURCHASE ALONE WILL END UP -- THE THRESHOLD FOR THE

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CITY'S PURCHASING REQUIREMENTS. ANYWAY, THE -- TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION. WITHIN THE NEXT 6-12 MONTHS WE SHOULD HAVE 10 TO 13 SHELTERS IN PLACE.

IF WE ARE ALL IN PERFECT WORLD AND NO TYPE OF ISSUE WITH UNDERGROUND LINE WITH THESE ATTORNEY LOCATIONS.

ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR BOBBY.

I'M CURIOUS. WILL THESE ROOF OVER PROTECTING FOR THE RAIN. YES, SIR.

THEY ARE. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW. ITEM NUMBER 7.

[7. Discussion and review of reports:  Financial Status  Operation Report  Tasks  Training Sessions  Meetings  Director’s Report  Future Work Tasks  MPO Staffing  MPO Office New Location  Travel Demand Model]

FINANCIAL STATUS. IN YOUR FINANCIAL STATUS FOR OCTOBER 1ST. 2019 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2020. AND INCLUDED IN THERE IS YOUR MAY BILLINGS AND SO ARE SHOWN THERE.

THE AUTHORIZATION AMOUNT 458.05 #.

EXPENDITURE 232,428.05 AND WE HAVE REMAINING BALANCE OF 2.5617.68. I WILL HAVE BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THE FINANCIAL STATUS.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> NEXT ITEM OPERATIONS REPORT.

THE FULL REPORT IS IN THE PACKET.

WE IN OUR NEW LOCATION. VERY HAPPY WITH IT.

AND THAT WAS ALL ACCOMPLISHED ON -- IN THE END OF JULY.

WE MOVED OVER HERE AND WE'RE OPERATIONAL AS OF AUGUST 1ST.

WE HAD THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING POSITION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT 2020 SATURATION COUNT. THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM.

WE'RE RECEIVING THAT SOMETIME VERY SHORTLY IF NOT THIS WEEK WE SHOULD RECEIVE THE ACTUAL MODEL. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

AND THEN WE SUBMITTED EVERYTHING FOR THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. TITLE 6 INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED TO FEDERAL HIGHWAYS. WE'RE UNDER THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY PERFORMANCE REVIEW COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 15TH AND 16TH.

WE PROVIDED BACKGROUND DOCUMENTATION TO THEM ON THAT.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO UPDATING THE FAST ACT COMPLIANCE CHECKLIST WHICH HAS A LOT OF THE INFORMATION ON IT.

THAT'S THE OPERATION REPORT AND I SAID THE FULL PACKET IS INCLUDED. THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

THE PART-TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT WILL HOPEFULLY GET UPDATED AND POSTED SHORTLY ONCE WE GET THIS FIGURED OUT AFTER THE PROCESS. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NEW LOCATION. YOU NEED TO COME BY AND SEE.

WE'RE HAPPY WITH. THE TRAVEL MODEL DEMAND WE WILL TALK ABOUT. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THIS IS DALE SPURGIN. YOU KEEP SAYING WE.

I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND YOUR WORK ON YOUR OWN TO ACCOMPLISH ALL THIS.

AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND SAY THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO VISIT THE OFFICER THIS WEEK.

YESTERDAY, AND THEY ARE VERY NICE.

VERY NICE. ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO WHERE MPO WAS. THE LOBBY, VERY NICE AND ELEVATOR WORKS WELL. THERE'S NICE WINDOWS WHERE YOU

CAN SEE TRANSPORTATION GOING BY. >> VERY GOOD JOB.

>> SETTING UP ALL THE COMPUTERS. WHERE EVERYTHING WAS PLUGGED.

SHE GOT IT ALL DONE. >> THANKS.

[8. Opportunity for members of the Public to make comments on MPO issues.]

>> MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 8 OPPORTUNITIES FOR MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO MAKE COMMENTS ON MPO ISSUES.

IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT.

PRESS STAR 9 WILL RAISE YOUR HAND.

AND UNMUTE YOU IF YOU ARE MUTED. NOT SEEING ANY HANDSHAKES HERE.

NOT SEEING ANYTHING. >> NUMBER NINE.

[9. Opportunity for Board Members, Technical Advisory Committee Members, or MPO Staff to recommend topics for future discussion or action.]

OPPORTUNITY FOR BOARD MEMBERS TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MBO STAFF TO RECOMMEND TOPICS FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION OR

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ACTION. WE THOSE TWO ITEMS WE WILL DISCUSS ON THE FIRST. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR FROM COMMENTS THAT WERE CARL IN THE PAST.

WITH REGARD TO THE FUNDING QUESTION, CARL DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE TRANSPORTATION POSITION? OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON JUST THE AGENDA WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS THIS POSITION AS WELL?

>> I THINK ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

ALL OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE MAKE FOR HIRE.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S POSTED PROPERLY ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT. >> SURE.

SURE. >> WE WOULD LIKE -- I THINK THAT'S GREAT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. WHAT PURPOSE OF THAT POSITION WOULD BE, WHAT THE EXPECTATION OF THAT POSITION WOULD BE.

AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> ANY OTHER TOPICS FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION?

>> SHORT-TERM FOR THAT SEPTEMBER 1ST MEETING OR FUTURE REGULAR

MPO POLICY BOARD MEETING. >> NO.

WE WILL MOVE ITEM 10 WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT.

I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PARTICIPATION AND ATTENTION IN THE MEETING. WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING SEPTEMBER 1ST. TUESDAY AT 11:00.

OUR NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING IS OCTOBER 20TH.

THAT WILL BE 1:30 I BELIEVE. THAT'S OUR REGULAR TIME.

BOTH OF THOSE LEGALLY REQUIRED POSTING AND APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S WORK IN THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

>> IT WILL BE ZOOM IN, CORRECT? >> YES.

THAT WAS MY DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD.

UNLESS YOU ALL CHANGED THAT. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> NICE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO THESE ANYMORE.

>> STILL BE SAFE. >> WE WANT TO BE SAFE.

>> THANKS,

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